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Can I have"},{"speaker":"Angela Nicholson","startTime":2438.63,"endTime":2440.01,"body":"your last number please?"},{"speaker":"Rebecca Douglas","startTime":2441.93,"endTime":2442.47,"body":"Let's go nine."},{"speaker":"Angela Nicholson","startTime":2442.47,"endTime":2445.695,"body":"Number nine,"},{"speaker":"Angela Nicholson","startTime":2442.47,"endTime":2445.695,"body":"do you recommend entering"},{"speaker":"Angela Nicholson","startTime":2445.695,"endTime":2448.935,"body":"photographic competitions? And"},{"speaker":"Angela Nicholson","startTime":2445.695,"endTime":2448.935,"body":"if so, do you have any tips for"},{"speaker":"Angela Nicholson","startTime":2448.935,"endTime":2451.995,"body":"success? 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Rebecca, and it's"},{"speaker":"Angela Nicholson","startTime":2703.45,"endTime":2703.59,"body":"been really wonderful chatting"},{"speaker":"Angela Nicholson","startTime":2703.59,"endTime":2703.626,"body":"with you."},{"speaker":"Rebecca Douglas","startTime":2703.626,"endTime":2703.766,"body":"Oh, it's been a"},{"speaker":"Rebecca Douglas","startTime":2703.626,"endTime":2703.766,"body":"pleasure. And thanks for"},{"speaker":"Rebecca Douglas","startTime":2703.766,"endTime":2703.854,"body":"questions, some of the reasons"},{"speaker":"Angela Nicholson","startTime":2703.854,"endTime":2703.994,"body":"That's great."},{"speaker":"Angela Nicholson","startTime":2703.854,"endTime":2703.994,"body":"Thanks very much then, bye, bye."},{"speaker":"Rebecca Douglas","startTime":2703.994,"endTime":2704.064,"body":"Thank you, bye."},{"speaker":"Angela Nicholson","startTime":2704.0,"endTime":2704.262,"body":"Thanks for"},{"speaker":"Angela Nicholson","startTime":2704.0,"endTime":2704.262,"body":"listening to this episode of the"},{"speaker":"Angela Nicholson","startTime":2704.262,"endTime":2706.46,"body":"SheClicks Women in Photography"},{"speaker":"Angela Nicholson","startTime":2704.262,"endTime":2706.46,"body":"Podcast. 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