Not All Spirits Are Jerks

Animal Communication: When I Possessed My Sister's Dog By Accident

• Frances Ulman • Season 1 • Episode 2

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Transitioning from clinical psychologist to a shaman living in Mongolia did not happen overnight. There were years between for me that were wild and rough. This is one of my favorite stories from that long season when I wasn't yet a sacred healer but had many abilities growing in the gifts of clairvoyance, clairaudience, and energy healing. Unlike the Hollywood Medium I didn't always know how to do what I now do. You don't know until you try!

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Speaker 1:

Hi, I'm Frances and welcome to Not All Spirits Are Jerks, the podcast named after my closest spirit guide, who is, in fact, super huge jerk. Today I'd like to share the story with you about how part of my spirit took up residence in one of my sister's small dogs, who was over a two-hour drive from me. When I say part of my spirit, I don't mean part of my like spirit team. A spirit guide, a ghost, I mean actually part of me accidentally took up residence in one of my sister's small dogs. It was as surprising for me as it was for her. Let's provide a little context before I get into the story.

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Nowadays I'm initiated into a line of shamans in Mongolia, where I do live part of my life, and I live, love and thrive there, and there they do call me a shaman, so I do use that word mindfully and out of respect for the culture that has the people within the culture that have supported me and got me to this place. But it was a long road to get here. So part of what I do now, as we could say a sacred healer, is use these gifts that I have developed in the work that I do to help others. Some of the gifts that I'm referring to are what some people call the Claire, so that is things like clairvoyance or the ability to see, maybe we could say, with spirit eyes. Clairevoyance might be having your eyes open and being able to see like ghosts in the environment, or it could be actually closing your eyes and communicating, using symbols, with spirits around you. There's a lot you can do once you have developed clairvoyance. One of the primary ones for me and it always has been since the beginning is clairaudience, meaning being able to hear with, like I like to say, spirit ears. That means that I'm able to receive messages from the spirits around me. It's a pain in the butt when the clairaudience means I can hear unwanted ghosts talking to me as I'm trying to fall asleep in hotel rooms and then I need to politely, or maybe with a little bit more force, ask them and get them to go. But it comes in really handy when I'm communicating with my jerk spirit guide when he's saying things that are helpful for me to be working with others.

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Some of the other ones are claircognizance. That's just kind of like clear knowing, and claircognizance is a really strange one to work with because, especially at the beginning, it means that it's sort of like if you think of a memory, that memory is already in your mind. Claircognizance is sort of feels for me, like the same thing, like some piece of information about someone has always been in my mind, only it's freshly there. So, like just today, I was scrolling through Facebook and I looked at a picture of someone, a woman, and I just knew that her thyroid levels were low. I mean, what do you do with that kind of information? That and it just. It's just, I knew it. It wasn't anything that I was seeing or there weren't any symbols around it, it just was a piece of information that was there For me. That's claircognizance.

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Another really big one for me is claircentience being able to feel what other people feel, although at the beginning and even now when I'm kind of worn down or not taking care of my energy, it can be really overwhelming because I'm literally like feeling the anxiety of someone else or having stomach pain. Gosh. Actually, now that I think about it right now as I'm talking, I think I've been Clairc-sentient, feeling the feelings of others, a lot longer than I recognize, because even back in my previous life that's what I called the life when I was a psychologist, long before I had any idea what a chakra was. I mean, I remember coming up from work as a therapist just feeling absolutely drained and I now I recognize I was absorbing the feelings of others, and even a lot longer than that. Wait a minute. I think I might have been Clairc-sentient even going back into my childhood. This is like coming at you live. Francis is learning about herself because, like I always was more likely to curl up with a book than hang out with friends and I was sort of a I like to wear all black as a teenager and keep to myself. I thought I was just rebelling, but I think I might have been trying to set some energy boundaries. I'll have to think about that more, maybe right in my journal about it.

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Anyway, clairc-sentience is a big one for me as well, almost as big as Clair-audience, and it's fine now, even though sometimes it gets overwhelming because I understand what's happening. At the beginning I just didn't understand and then, as I was learning how to use it like I remember more than once I've, just in the day or so before I was about to work with someone, I would get like pretty not terrible, but pretty significant menstrual cramps, even when I wasn't menstruating and then I would meet with a person and come to realize, oh, I was feeling them, because they struggle with really bad menstrual cramps. Like that shouldn't be happening, in my opinion. I don't need to be feeling that many feelings, I can just have Clairc-Cognizance about it. Nowadays it's more or less under control, although every once in a while when I get really worn down, I get flooded again. I actually have a YouTube video about what it was like for me walking through the Istanbul airport, as I'm slowly. Well, it's a video about me traveling from Sopmi, which is up in the Arctic, through Istanbul on the way to Mongolia, and I show how I'm just slowly falling apart, and the reason is Clair-Cognizance I'm just getting more and more tired, and the more tired I get and the more I'm around all of that stimulation of flying in, airports and people after a while I'm not able to keep my energy boundaries as they should be and I just just become jelly. So anyway, that video is there if you're interested. So that is Clair-Centience, one of my favorite ones. I don't have it too often, but I do know some people that it's. Their.

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Primary Clair is Clair-Gustience. That means being able to taste things. So, like one person. I know his spirit guides communicate with him, giving him a whole lexicon just using different, different tastes in his mouth, and some of the tastes are like associations of like food that maybe he got food poisoning from at one time and it reminds him of being food poisoned and tells him about the, the character of the person that is in front of him. Or it might be a smell of like tobacco that kind of gets more into Clair I can't remember the name for that one Clair-Smellience, there's a word for it. It might remind him of his grandfather and tell him that this person in front of him is a good person.

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But I didn't always have these gifts, you know, in contrast. So I work with people now and I help them develop their gifts. That's part of what the work that I do as a sacred healer. In contrast, I think, most people that I've known or that I've read about who do have these gifts, they always had at least a little bit of it since childhood. So someone who comes to mind is Tyler Henry, or also known as the Hollywood medium. He has a show that I've really enjoyed watching. The Hollywood medium is a show that I started watching a few years after these experiences started happening to me, I had just gotten back to the USA after living in Nepal and all over India for almost two years.

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I was back in the USA with absolutely no clue what to do with my life. I was no longer a psychologist, but I wasn't a healer, and I just didn't know what I was. I had no idea what I was going to do, and it was a bit of a nightmare to find myself back in my childhood home after having left long, long ago, I don't know, with nothing else to do somehow. Thankfully, one of the things my parents and I have in common are we like to watch good television, or I would say good television. So we like to watch Queer Eye and the Hollywood medium. When I say we, I think I might meet my mom and I, and my dad's a good sport, but he does appreciate Jonathan on Queer Eye's side note.

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So there I am, sitting on my couch from childhood, having just come back from India. At this time I'm communicating with spirits. I have no idea what the heck to do about it, I have no control over it, and I'm watching the Hollywood medium with my mom and my dad. What a time. And that's where I first encountered him and really came to respect what he does, not just because of his abilities but because he's so heart-centered and compassionate in what he does. He talks about how he remembers at 10s I think at 10 is when he says he started hearing his grandmother communicate with him. He might have had a premonition of her passing as well and he talks about how, even in high school, he would be like sitting in class reading his classmates.

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I was not reading my classmates, I was reading books. None of this was a world that I knew about at all. I mean, I knew the word psychic and I don't know. I kind of don't really like that word because I just associate it with my past before I opened and when I was a material atheist and I just that psychic meant like you know, it pulls up the image of like driving down the road and seeing like, kind of like a flickering neon, tacky light, and you would walk in and see someone with this like dusty room and it would all be just like tricks and a sham. The word psychic does not bring up senses of like respect for the discipline, let's say so. I suppose we could use that word, but I a little bit more, prefer calling it the clears.

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So for different people these abilities or gifts come on differently. For me, I had been working as a clinical psychologist in private practice when they spontaneously started coming to me like no words can adequately describe my shock to start hearing, like, for example, the ghost of the grandmother who had passed away of the client who I was talking to. I had no idea that these things could even happen and suddenly I have a grandmother communicating with me while I'm looking at the client and billing by the hour through insurance. It was all a lot and at the beginning also it just everything felt really out of control. I knew that these things were happening to me but I wasn't in the driver's seat. And this, I think, is where training comes in.

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Training is key because if you happen to also be a person who has some of these quote unquote gifts they don't always feel like gifts it can get it can feel really out of control. I mean you can be like walking down a grocery store aisle. I have walked down a grocery store aisle and just been in a fine mood and suddenly felt like despondently sad. Before I wouldn't know what to do about it. It would just feel like a tree caught in the wind just being blown about. But after doing a lot of training, now I'm able to hopefully be putting up some borders. So I'm not feeling it while I'm just out and about, but if it is one of those days where the quote, unquote gifts are just really strong, which happens, I'm able to separate out and recognize. Oh, I just walked past that woman and it feels like she's going through some kind of great separation, like maybe a divorce, or a child went off to college, and I'm feeling her sadness. Training, training, makes all the difference when it comes to being in the driver's seat, for the clearest is what I've seen for myself and for others.

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Come to think of it maybe that's what Tyler Henry was doing when he says he was reading people in his high school. I didn't hear that from him directly or read that online. So forgive me, tyler, if that's not accurate, because while I wasn't reading people in high school, as his gifts started to develop, I did have my jerk spirit guy send me to a coffee shop and he would have me practice reading. He would just have me sit down and then I'd be doing whatever I was doing and maybe 40 minutes later, when I didn't know what was behind me, he would have me practice and say, okay, how many people are behind you? And then he would show me like a scary demon that would pop out. You'd scare the crap out of me and he would laugh and you'd just be like, okay, back to business, how many people are there? And I tried to clear that demon image out of my mind. It wasn't even a demon, he was just messing with me because that's who he is. And then I would say, okay, three, and you'd have me kind of zero in on one, two or three and I would practice reading them. So I wonder if that's what Tyler Henry was doing.

Speaker 1:

For me it was crucial to practice, practice, practice. I don't do it anymore Weird confidentiality issues for sure, but you gotta keep up your skills. It's a weird world. I'm as ethical as possible, but I did go through a time where that, to be honest, is how I trained myself to read people. Before I was reading humans, I started practicing how to read, communicate and connect with well, the furrier of our friends Although that sentence isn't gonna actually apply to everyone. If you are a furry, I apologize for the vagueness of that statement. May your friends feline, canine and humanine be as fabulously furry as you like them to be, but for me I started with the can we say, the original furries. I started by practicing learning how to communicate with willa pets, especially with dogs.

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So it was a bumpy time for me at the beginning and I was with a guy at the time and I've just always been a really honest person. He and I met in graduate school. So I was getting my doctorate in clinical psychology, he was getting his doctorate in mathematics, and so we kind of met in a bit of a rational realm, let's say. And that's where our hearts united. We didn't really have ways to talk about what was happening to me, but still it was happening to me and I knew that I wasn't losing my mind. I knew that these were real gifts and he and I we had a relationship where we shared everything. So I was sharing it with him. I don't think he knew what the heck to do about it, but he loved me very much and we were very close to our neighbor's next door. Our neighbor's next door were generation or so above us. They had teenage kids and they were both very, very sweet people.

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The woman was a professor at the nearby university and the man he did this and that he was always just kind of poking around and he was just a really, really sweet guy. He did some kind of therapy that involved I think it was not like for mind therapy, like physical therapy, but more like holistic whole body therapy, and that therapy involved like kind of bouncing up and down on a small trampoline. I don't know, he was just this sweet sort of hippie guy and my parents, while they were not hippies, they are from the generation of hippies and I've always had a really sweet spot in my heart for people who are of the hippie variety. Let's say Well, so when all this was happening with me at the beginning, my guy he must have been talking to the neighbor guy in confidence and just being like so I don't know what's going on with Francis, but perhaps you can feel the role of an elder, what the heck? And this guy let's call, let's give him a name, let's call him Tom. Tom was such a sweet soul. So a couple of weeks later he just kind of came up to me and he said oh, you know, I heard you've been like I don't remember he put it so gently. He said I have a book that I think you might enjoy reading and this book was called Kinship with All Life.

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Nowadays I don't have a home. I live out of two very large bags because they're loaded down with very heavy sacred objects and a backpack and like a carry-on bag. I'm at the limit for what I can take for international travel and that is my turtle home. And in these few possessions I have what I call my library and I usually have sort of a rotating list of about five books with me. One of these books always is this book that he handed me many years ago called Kinship with All Life. You can get it online. I'm always able to find a used copy just for a few bucks and it's just. I wish it was required reading.

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It's an incredible story about this man who is given a famous dog in Hollywood in like the 1940s or 50s. He knows nothing about dogs but somehow he's in with the famous people in Hollywood and these two people are the caretakers for a German shepherd who is at that time a movie star, and they have to go away. So he asked the couple, ask him to watch this dog and more or less drop this German shepherd on his lap and peace out. And this dog his name is Braveheart. You can Google him and see pictures of him right now. He was a real actor in Hollywood.

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I can't say that everything in this book is true. The author of the book was a writer at his time and he's an incredible storyteller. Well, it may not be like moment by moment true, but more or less I believe that there's accuracy in the book and the story about Braveheart and him and the friendship and true connection that they develop is is really something to read. And it's this beautiful story. I don't know how much I want to tell without giving it away, but it turns quite mystical in an incredibly unexpected way and it moves on from his experiences of understanding with the dog. It branches out into other stories as well. It reads as a memoir. It's a quick read. You can read it in an afternoon. About the length of time that it might take you to binge watch a show. I really, really recommend it Kinship with All Life.

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Well, from this book my curiosity was piqued because I at that time was the literally the only person I knew in the entire world that was having these more, um, metaphysical experiences. I mean, I was having like ghosts follow me home from my private practice as a therapist. I didn't. It's so confusing the book Kinship with All Life. It didn't provide any guidance, but it provided reassurance. It's one of the only books that I read in those first couple of years and it provided me a sense of beauty, of being able to to. I was just so high, strong, because I felt like I was needing to take care of myself and reassure everyone that I wasn't losing my mind. But in some ways I was losing my mind and it was so stressful. And this book gave me permission to consider that perhaps something really beautiful was happening, that it wasn't just that these clears were developing, but that my awarenesses were opening to something much bigger and larger, to being able to understand the true interconnectedness with all life. But again, when I finished reading this book, I thought, okay, beautiful book, profound, you know. Thank you, tom. And but I became curious.

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Well, maybe I can communicate with animals. I just honestly, even today it's like this. I'll watch a show, like my sister and I, when I'm in the USA. She and I love to watch Kindred Spirits. It's a ghost hunting show with Amy Bruni and Adam Berry and Chip Coffee and sometimes watching that show, I'll see Chip do something and he's sort of the psychic medium in the show and I'll think I wonder if I can do that and I'll give it a try.

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I I have no idea what I can do. It's strange to say so. This kind of wild style of training continues Even today. I'll hear about something some other healer has done and I'll think, oh, maybe I should see if I can do that. After a couple tries I get a sense of you know what this, this might be something I can do. If it's, if it's supported by my jerk spirit guide. I don't know, is it that he teaches me? I kind of think that. Well, more than kind of.

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I think that sacred healers, we come in with the gifts that we're going to have. I don't think it was ever going to be the most medically minded shaman, one of my shaman mentors. She's absolutely amazing at being able to look at someone and see, see medical conditions in their body. I feel like oftentimes in more of a heart healer. I see what's going on in someone's inner heart, like see things that they haven't even told themselves. But there are all kinds of things that I seem to just have like the app in me. I just didn't know and I just try. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Most of the time I know right away, but every once in a while I think, okay, let's work with that one, we might be able to go somewhere with it. Here is, I think, the most recent example that I can think of, and it's a pretty out there one for the kinds of things that I usually do. This is not a common thing for me.

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I live up in Sopmi, which are the indigenous lands of northern Europe. Part of the year I move through there. The indigenous lands of northern Europe cover Norway, sweden, finland and part of Russia, and I spend most of my time on the Norway side of the border. Well, there their sacred healers are called Noades. There aren't many of them left and mostly people just have stories about them these days, but it's known that Noady and people that are just sort of of the same ilk, one of the gifts and talents that they have are blood stopping that if someone's in a serious has, a serious injury and they're losing blood, you can bring up the Noady and they can actually stop the blood a very physical thing. Never cross my mind that that's something that I might be able to do.

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I don't know if I'm able to do it, but I know that the last time I was back in Arizona, I was hanging out with a dear friend he's from Taiwan and he is the best chef that I know these days and he had made me some delicious food and we were about to open like a really rare bottle of whiskey to enjoy a little whiskey after dinner and he cut his thumb. Well, being from Taiwan, he's open to what I am and who I am and it doesn't faze him at all. We hang out and chat about the news and then chat about the spirit realms, and so, as he was bleeding and freaking out, I said you know, maybe I can stop this blood. So I don't know. He had already wrapped it up and bandaged it and I tried to move energy and he stopped bleeding. But like, honestly, the timeline was like probably when someone would stop bleeding. I don't think that I was able to stop his blood.

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I give this as an example of like there are just days where I don't know what I'm able to do and it's, these days, fun to play around with it, but back at the beginning it was a lot more confusing. So after reading this book, kinship with all life, I thought, wow, I wonder if I can communicate with animals. So as I was curious about if I was able to communicate with animals my own God, although I didn't know that to it was at the time I realized I might be going back and forth between saying main spirit guide, primary spirit guide, and on got, on, got is a specifically Mongolian term for Mongolian shamanism. What happens is when you're initiated, you're merged with this spirit who's sort of like your sky boss for life. So my primary spirit guide, he's also my own got. He wouldn't have been called that before the initiation, but he is my own got now. So I sort of go back and forth. He was a jerk before and after.

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He directed me to get a book called animal talk, inner species, telepathic communication, by Penelope Smith. It's another book that I recommend and these, so these two books, are some of the only books I read at the beginning and it well it's. It's a step by step guide of teaching you how to communicate with animals. I'm often asked does everyone? Does everyone have these gifts, or only some people? And I kind of joke Well, my dad would be the test. I don't know that he has these gifts, but honestly, maybe even he does.

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And whoever you are listening to this, I really recommend, if you're curious, getting this book. It's fascinating and it really opened my eyes, I mean to, to a lot more that's going on, whether you are psychic or not, to recognize that, probably in times and places which and spaces which are even here. Now I don't mean to talk about it as if this is some like mystical past, but I think that when our senses are more in tune with the environment around us and starting to think it's actually just kind of what you do, it's pretty easy to communicate with the animals around you. So it sounds so wild when I hear it out, spoken out loud. There is still a part of me that wants to just hide under the covers by saying all of this on a podcast. But I'm pushing through it Because these stories are to be shared. Oh, but there's still a part of me that's like holy, wow, here I am sharing my stories.

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So I read this book and it's talking about how I had a cat at the time. It might have been talking about a cat specifically, I don't remember, but it was the author Penelope Smith was talking about how most animals or cats, I don't remember communicate largely with symbols more than words, and so you can check if you're able to communicate with your animal. One of the first things you can do is she talks about, which I do as well. Now, clearing out your mind, dropping down into your heart and in that quiet space, imagine your pets very favorite food. Oh, maybe let me add here I think that a lot of people you can communicate with, especially your pet, because you're bonded. But this, if you want to give it a try yourself, often for people I see it doesn't work the first time or the first many times. The reason for that, oftentimes the reason for that is your pet's been trying to communicate with you this whole time and they think you're dumb.

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You know, human minds think about it compared to animal minds. Animal minds they can worry and whatnot, but it's generally a much more like accurate perception of just like they're thinking about what's happening in the moment, whereas humans we're just like gobbledygook of the stuff that's like flies, like ticker tape flying through our mind and as they're trying to communicate with us, we don't hear it and we're just sending garbage. You know, worrying about the email we have to send tomorrow and worrying about how we phrase that message two days ago. And how many followers do we have on Instagram? So our pets have learned that we're really sweet and we take care of them and we love them but we need help and that our minds are scrambled.

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A lot of pets have actually just turned off and they don't pay attention to what's going on in their owner's minds anymore and that's why, like I've seen it actually with my mom's dogs particularly she has three dogs, particularly one of her dogs. He's very he could be very clear, but he doesn't hear me because he just tuned out humans. He learned long ago. Humans are wonderful for petting and feeding, but if you connect with the energy it gets a little scrambly, so he's just kind of tuned out. It happens with some of the best pet owners I know.

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So if you want to give this a try yourself, don't give up. Just remember how many years have you been with them and how many times have you tried to communicate with them. You know, if you had a radio on and it was just static for eight years, you probably learned to tune it out, and when that radio started actually transmitting clear communication. It might take you a moment to recognize. Oh wait, something changed.

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So if you want to give this a try yourself, don't give up. Here's a way to start with it. So, with this food, here's how you go. Okay, so start by imagining, like really picturing in your mind your animal pets favorite food. It might be, you know, the regular food, a treat, or like a scrap of chicken off the table and really get into, like the senses of it, not just the word, not just the label, not what the bag looks like, but like opening the bag or the can and what does it smell like. You know what are the sounds of putting it in their dish or dropping the treats on the ground. She was talking about really getting into as visceral as possible, imagining that food and see how your animal, how your pet, reacts.

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Well, to my utter surprise, I just gave it a try and my cat came running in from the other room, atticus came running up and you could have knocked me over with a feather. I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it. I communicated, potentially, with an animal, but of course, maybe it's just a coincidence, right? Every single story I'll ever tell you will always be able to end with, and maybe it was just a coincidence and that's just what it is. But I was curious. Okay, potentially I communicated with my own cat, I don't know, but it seems like if whatever is happening is not dependent on communicating through like the material space right, it's not like a telephone line where you need a cable reaching or satellite or something that you're actually moving through 3D physical space. Whatever is happening, we're connecting an energy in. I don't know. Maybe I like to think it's a different dimension, but I don't know where. The communication is instant and it makes no difference if you're next to the person or if they're on the other side of the world. So I decided, as test case number two, to try to communicate with my sister's small dog, piper.

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Now, my sister at that time lived about two and a half hours away from me. I was living in North Carolina and she lived south of me. So I remember I was sitting in traffic. If you're familiar with the Durham area, I was on the 15501. It must have been an accident or something. Don't worry. When I told the story no one was harmed or potentially harmed.

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But I was just sitting there in traffic and I thought, hmm, maybe I should see if I can connect with Piper. Piper is this small, fuzzy little, just ray of love in the universe. That's all he's here for he's. No one's going to describe this dog as an intellectual, but he's just going to make you smile. I mean, his name is Piper and he's small and fluffy.

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So I'm sitting there in traffic, traffic's not moving. I soften my eyes, maybe I close them and drop my attention into my heart space, empty out, and I just tried to sort of move my awareness to Piper. I wasn't, I wasn't doing any like communicating, necessarily. I was sort of checking the line and I got like so I sat for a moment, I opened this practice is not one of pushing, it's kind of just one of opening and I tried to settle wherever I could imagine Piper might be and after a moment I kind of felt like I had to urinate, like maybe was I feeling like I was at a lower perspective in the kitchen, I don't know. Like okay, yeah, I got some impressions, but they all just felt like anything that you would imagine a small dog might be feeling at any moment. There was nothing definitive and, you know, traffic kind of cleared up and I moved on. I didn't think anything of it.

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But while I was talking to my sister a couple days later my sister at that time, she's my only sister, we're really close and she's the one that introduced me to Kindred spirits, but of course we didn't watch that before. That's, that's something that we get to share now, now that I am what I am now. So at the beginning I was really invested in having her and my whole family not think that I was losing my mind, although I felt like I was losing my mind, not in the way of sanity, but in the way of, like, holy crap, I need some help and I'm not getting it. So I remember I called her and I was talking to her and you know she kind of knew what was going on, a little bit, like I said, I'm very honest, but it's not like I would give her super, super big details. And as we're chatting, she said you know, francis, the strangest thing happened two days ago. And she starts talking about, like her at that time her oldest daughter was younger, maybe, I don't know, five or so, and she was saying, yeah, my daughter, you know, the other day in the afternoon.

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So she starts, as she's talking, pin pointing down more and more, the exact time when I would have been sitting in traffic. She said, yeah, something like I was. I was just sitting with my daughter we were, you know, and sitting on the couch, and suddenly my daughter sat up and looked across the room at Piper who was in the kitchen, and she walked over to Piper and got down eyeball to eyeball, nose to nose, looked Piper straight in the eye and said Aunt Francie, are you in there? And that, my friends, is the story of how I accidentally sent part of my spirit to reside inside of a small, adorable dog. Thank you, thank you for listening. If you'd like to connect with me on the socials, I am at dropoutpsychologist. I have a YouTube channel where you can see me in Mongolia many other places as well. You can hear some of my more serious side on the channel, along with with some antics as well. Meaning some of my friends in Mongolia. Catch you next at my next podcast, if not before, in the dream time. Dream well, friends.