Insanity After Dark: The Ultimate Horror Movie Showdown

Insanity After Dark: The Ultimate Horror Movie Showdown

Coming off the heals of The Insanity After Dark: The Ultimate Sci-Fi Movie Showdown, Dave Goldfinch aka The Podfather from the On the Bench Podcast, Andrew White aka Whitey from the ModelGeeks Podcast and Rob Riv from the Modeling Insanity Podcast battle it out to talk about their favorite Horror movies of all time.  Lots of laughs, lots of insults, and lots of chaos ensue on this hilarious and inciteful special episode of the Modeling Insanity.  Sit back, have a few laughs and enjoy....

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:04

Good evening, fiends, film lovers, and creatures of the night. This is Vincent Price. I am delighted, positively delighted, to welcome you to an evening of terror, suspense, and cinematic mayhem. Tonight, the shadows grow longer, the screams grow louder, and the debate grows deadlier. Yes, you have entered the crypt of controversy known as the Insanity After Dark, Ultimate Horror Movie Showdown. The Podfather, Whitey, and Rob Reeves will battle it out in this haunted arena. Only the most chilling, blood-curdling, spine-tingling horror films shall survive while the others are cast back into the darkness from which they came. Will your favorite nightmare reign supreme, or will it be buried in a coffin of defeat? So dim the lights, lock the doors, and keep a careful eye on the shadows behind you. Because once the madness begins, there is no escape from the insanity. So join me on this special edition of the Insanity After Dark, the ultimate horror movie showdown. So let the chaos begin.

SPEAKER_03 1:57

Coming off the heels of the sci-fi showdown that we had last time, which went over really well. I have my good friends here again, Mr. Dave Goldfinch, the podfather himself. Thank you.

SPEAKER_06 2:09

Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 2:10

And you sound much better this time. Not very you don't sound like um like the beastie boys intergalactic.

SPEAKER_06 2:17

Well, what he said last time, I sounded like the bottom of a well, um gargling a mouthful of marbles. But um that was your fault because you deliberately did that to make me sound worse or poorer. Well, I think it was paid back no because you're such a fucking short ass, you can stand on the shoulders of the giants so they can see out of the fence.

SPEAKER_03 2:36

Listen, man, we've not we're not even a minute into this show, and you're already just throwing disparaging comments at me.

SPEAKER_06 2:43

No, I'm just I'm just get I'm just studying facts.

SPEAKER_03 2:47

All right, well, okay, we'll we'll get to that. We you might you might uh you might take that back at some point tonight. I'm very disappointed in you. And we have my other good friend here, uh partner in crime during these showdowns, the master, the mind behind the operation right now, Mr. Andrew White. Whitey, how you doing?

SPEAKER_05 3:03

Um pretty good. Thanks for having me back on board for this uh special episode. Horror movies? Not my genre, man. But I'll I'll I'll try to I'll I'll tread water as best I can.

SPEAKER_06 3:15

Hang on, Whitey. We've we've done we've done science fiction, we're about to do horror movies, and you said both of them are not in your wheelhouse. What is? Well, you like uh like cartoons from the 1970s? What's what's your fucking geek?

SPEAKER_05 3:27

I like I like cartoons from the 70s.

SPEAKER_03 3:31

Well you uh you held your own. You held your own last time, so you do good.

SPEAKER_05 3:35

I wouldn't say I have a a favorite. I mean, I I like uh I like war movies. I mean, that's why I could go on and on about those. I think if I had to say, yeah, if I had to say a genre, it would be war movies just because I'm a history nerd. I mean, I'll watch anything pretty much, as long as it's got a good story. But I can't say like I'm I'm not gonna go buy a ticket to see the next uh you know conjuring that comes out or anything like that. But I might catch it on Netflix sometime when I'm bored, but you know what I mean? Yeah, I gotcha.

SPEAKER_03 4:04

There's a lot to talk about. Horror movies is kind of my jam, so this is gonna be really fun. Um, the sci-fi movie showdown went really, really good. But listen, this is the ultimate horror showdown. We gotta say this. This is our favorite horror movies that we want to talk about. Doesn't mean they're necessarily the best in the world. These are the ones that we like. A lot of people messaged and with sending stuff like, why don't you have Stargate and Sci-Fi? Why don't you have, you know, Wrath of Khan and all these other movies? I'm like, guys, they didn't make the list because it's not our personal favorites.

SPEAKER_05 4:36

Us three right here.

SPEAKER_03 4:37

Right. You know, you know, unfortunately, we can't have 50 people here to talk about their movies. This is what we like, and this is gonna be a little crazy because there's a lot of really great horror movies out there from all the decades. I'm not a big black and white horror guy, Vincent Price shit and all Bella Lugosi. I don't care about that stuff, but there is a lot of great subgenres to horror. You like the blood and gore? Uh not necessarily the gore, but I do like a good 80s horror movie, man. I love it, and it's people who know me know I love 80s horror. Can I watch it on repeat? My wife's like, You're watching this again? I'm like, Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_05 5:13

I will say the 80s has the best horror movies, I'd say.

SPEAKER_03 5:16

80s has the best, and I also love those B movie horror movies, like those full moon production movies. If anybody knows full moon, like Sorati Babes in the slime ball bowl rama. Everyone's like, What are you watching? I'm like, I'm watching Sorati Babes in the Slime Ball Bowl Rama right now again because I fucking love it, because I'm sick and I love it. So we're gonna do is this we're gonna talk about what our favorite movies are. We're gonna go around the round table again. We might have some overlaps, we'll fill some stuff in, and we're gonna discuss the movies, right, Whitey. You're good to go because you're gonna start.

SPEAKER_05 5:47

Okay, I'm gonna bet we don't have many overlaps in this round.

SPEAKER_03 5:50

You know, we might not because I got a lot of movies, and you know, Dave Goldfinch is not very like, you know, he I don't know, man. He for some reason I just feel like he's he's gonna let me down a lot this this time around. It just might be me. He might he's gonna let me down. I I see I see in his face, he's always got that look in his face right now, like, you know, like he did something wrong, like he's waiting to be yelled at. Look at this, look at him.

SPEAKER_06 6:13

Well, look, you've got low expectations anyway to start with, so you know, I'm not gonna exceed them.

SPEAKER_03 6:18

Right. It's always best to come in with very low expectations because you can never be let down. All right, so Whitey, we're gonna start with you. What's your first movie for the ultimate horror movie showdown? So let's go.

SPEAKER_05 6:30

All right, so horror movies. You know, you look at a list in Rotten Tomatoes or any other like top 100, top ten list of you know, best horror movies, you know, you see some stuff in there that's you go, is that even a horror movie? Kind of the same thing with the sci-fi, like I went to the last time. And so, all right, my number 10, which I find more funny than scary, and that's a whole nother thing. I'm I'm not gonna get scared by a movie.

SPEAKER_03 6:53

Well, there's horror comedy in there, and that that is a subgenre. And it's up the one of my favorites is a horror comedy.

SPEAKER_05 6:58

So here, okay, this would probably fall into that category, Tremors. Oh, yeah, yeah, that was a good one.

SPEAKER_06 7:05

Damn, wish I had a thought of that one.

SPEAKER_03 7:07

You know, Tremors, believe it or not, I got like 40 movies on my list, and Tremors is not there. Yeah, but uh they spawned like six sequels. I think Michael Gross became like the lead guy in it later on, right? Um just talk about it. Kevin Bacon, what's his name was in it too? Fred What was that? What was it?

SPEAKER_05 7:24

Fred Ward.

SPEAKER_03 7:24

Fred Ward was in it too, got rest of the soul, he passed away.

SPEAKER_05 7:28

Fred Ward and like Michael Gross, he was like the dad on that family ties.

SPEAKER_06 7:33

Family ties, yeah. He was he was hippie.

SPEAKER_03 7:35

Reba McIntyre plays his wife. They're like uh doomsday preppers and stuff.

SPEAKER_05 7:40

Yeah, they're like survivalists, and that's not so funny because he's totally 180 off from his character on Family Ties, and you watch it and goes, This is the same guy, yeah. Yeah, he's got a mustache, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:50

Sure.

SPEAKER_06 7:51

What I liked about Tremors though is that all of these um ones that came after it were just as good as the first one.

SPEAKER_03 7:57

Shrevers is a really it's a good flick, right? Kevin Bacon is really good in it. He plays like a good little, like it's like weird. They kind of like a rednecky voice, but they wasn't like in like Idaho or something. Wasn't it supposed to get it?

SPEAKER_05 8:09

It was out west somewhere, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:10

Right, but why do you have like a southern accent kind of sort of in it? Didn't he have like a southern accent in it, Kevin Bacon?

SPEAKER_05 8:15

As they just probably said, all right, try to sound like a country bumpkin, and that's the best you could do.

SPEAKER_03 8:21

I love the setup in that movie because she got they're there in the driving, you got the guy, like the what's it, the lady is like she's like tracking like the seismographs in the ground, and they see the guy, the electrician, or whatever, the guy from the electric company, the phone company, like he's dead up there, and they think he like why like he didn't want to come down, like holy shit, what's going on? The only thing I the only problem I have with tremors is this where the fuck did they come from? Like all of a sudden, is this these things like in the ground?

SPEAKER_06 8:44

No, that it wasn't there, they were always there. They were always there because if because don't forget one of the movies they go back locked in the 1800s.

SPEAKER_03 8:52

Oh, is that they did?

SPEAKER_06 8:53

I didn't know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:55

Yeah, I didn't know about that. So tremors, man. All right, well, interesting. Okay, well, listen, I'll give you tremors. I can't I can't debate you. I mean, is it horror? I don't know. That I mean it might be horror-ish because it is scary, man. You're walking and shit's gonna bite, come on, swallow you up. I love the part when they like driving and it goes out the side of the mountain, crashes through, goes right out. Yeah, it's like just going through rock. That's great. All right, Mr. Goldfinch, what do you got?

SPEAKER_06 9:23

Well, my number 10 is purely based upon uh a childhood memory because back in the day we used to have things called driving theaters. And you know, you go to the movies with your parents, you you go there in your pajamas, you go play in the swings and the slides before the movie starts, and usually there were two movies. There was like a uh the main feature, and usually at the beginning there was uh another movie they played first. And this particular movie stuck with me because I was only 10 years old. Ten years old when I saw it. Yeah, I think it was 75.

SPEAKER_03 9:56

They had movies, they had they had movies back then.

SPEAKER_06 9:58

Yes, they didn't actually had talking movies and they're in color.

SPEAKER_03 10:01

Oh, they had talking, they had talking.

SPEAKER_06 10:04

So this movie, Peter Cushing is in it, and this is where Kung Fu meets horror. It was a hammer horror movie, and it was called The Legend of the Seven Golden Vampires. And it scared the shit out of me as a tenure.

SPEAKER_03 10:19

The legend of the seven golden that was like what 1975?

SPEAKER_06 10:23

1973. It came out. I saw it in 74. I think I think we were going to see like um I don't know, uh, Airport 1975 at the at the drive-in, and this was a supporting movie, but um okay scared the crowd, couldn't sleep for weeks after it.

SPEAKER_03 10:40

Wow. All right, I mean, what's what's so special about it? You gotta sell it to the audience that people are listening right now. Like, because I'm gonna tell you right now, I remember seeing that movie a long time ago. Uh, my father loved Peter Cushing, so like those movies kind of played a lot in my household. Not a fan, not a fan.

SPEAKER_06 10:59

Well, Peter Cushing, very famous. Um uh figure painter. Yeah, he did, you know, right?

SPEAKER_03 11:03

He was a big modeler.

SPEAKER_06 11:04

Yeah, a big modeler, airplane modeler, too.

SPEAKER_03 11:06

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm not a fan, but sell the movie. What was so dramatic and crazy about it?

SPEAKER_06 11:12

It was just the janky way that the vampire sort of moved. They didn't sort of walk towards you, they sort of it's hard to explain. You could go on YouTube and sort of just watch it. Get uh have a look at the um the trailer on YouTube, and you can see what I mean. The vampire sort of walked in this weird kind of way, but um of course Kung Fu, you know, the back then that was when um you had all the Kung Fu movies coming through in the 70s. So it was it was really good. But like I said, as a 10-year-old, it scared the shit out of me. I couldn't sleep for weeks.

SPEAKER_03 11:41

All right, well, I I can understand I'm not a fan, but this is why we have this debate, right?

SPEAKER_06 11:47

You don't have to be a fan, you don't have to be a fan.

SPEAKER_03 11:50

All right, so here we go. So I wanted to try to keep my list genre-based, try to take things from different genres a little bit, not just have like one thing, because I'm a big zombie guy. I love like um like 80s horror. Like, I'm not a big fan of like demonic type horror movies, like the conjuring and things like that. Not a fan, but I'm gonna lead with this and I want to do it because this will make a good discussion. My first movie that I want to talk about was directed by an a director that not necessarily was a horror director. When this movie came out, people actually went to the theater thinking it was gonna be a comedy. And it had a lot of comedy elements, but it definitely was not a comedy in a lot of ways. People wound up leaving because they were horrified at the movie. Do you know the movie? 1981? American Werewolf in London. Ah, come on. And I'm gonna tell you why.

SPEAKER_06 12:45

Oh is that the one with um uh what's his name in it uh from um the Dr.

SPEAKER_03 12:52

Pepper commercials?

SPEAKER_06 12:53

Yeah, what's what's the name of the actor? The act the he was in uh Back to the Future.

SPEAKER_03 12:58

What's his name?

SPEAKER_05 12:59

No, no, Michael J.

SPEAKER_03 13:01

Fox? Michael J. Fox.

SPEAKER_06 13:03

No, he was it was he was teenage werewolf, wasn't he? That's Teen Wolf. What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_03 13:09

We're having a discussion about the best horror movies that we like, and I'm talking about American Werewolf in London, and you're thinking about Michael J. Fox and Teen Wolf, and you thought he was in it. You want to sit here and have this conversation? American Werewolf in London is one of the amazing movies when it comes to just the story, but also like the effects. Rick Baker, the whole transformation of the whole transformation of David Norton when he becomes like a fucking werewolf, where he's sitting there. There's some crazy shit in that movie, right? It's kind of like a comedy, kind of sort of you're right. We talk about this. John Landis is the director. People went to that movie because he just made freaking Animal House. So people are thinking this is like, oh, Animal House. We're gonna go see American World in London. And they go to this fucking movie and they see fucking Griffin Don getting mauled at the beginning at the movie, right? They have freaking these crazy dreams where fucking David Norton's getting his fucking throat slipped by some Nazi army or whatever of fucking werewolves coming to this house. He's sitting in his room waiting that he's gonna transform. Griffin Don is coming and visiting him and telling him he's gonna be a werewolf. He should kill himself and all this shit. And he's sitting in his fucking chair, he's dating the fucking um, what do you call it? The the his what his girlfriend, the is the girl he's with, he met when he was in the hospital, the nurse. She's like, leaves and he's sitting there reading the book, and all of a sudden, like you're just watching, and he's like, Oh my god, he starts screaming, he's fucking ripping his fucking shirt off.

SPEAKER_01 14:37

Jesus Christ! Without a lot of fucking amazing right, you're looking at me, you're shaking your head.

SPEAKER_05 14:52

You know um how great that movie is. I I said would probably have no overlap, and I and that's my next one.

SPEAKER_03 15:00

Is that uh well, there you go, and it should be because that is a classic, it is classic. And the reason why I pick American Wales in London is because it is kind of got comedy elements in it, and it is kind of comedy, but it's also really amazing when it came to the special effects in that movie.

SPEAKER_05 15:16

Yeah, the first time they ever did something like that. Is Dead Buddy heckling them is kind of comedy, the dead griffin done heckling them.

SPEAKER_06 15:23

That was the oni part of the movie, it was good. The rest of it was just no.

SPEAKER_03 15:26

Listen, you would listen, that shit's not gonna work over with me with your popcorn movie shit. Not when you got Peter Cushing and the seven vampire movie at your at the start. You got a lot of nerve talking about my movie, which is amazing, right? Holds up today, for Christ's sake. American World in London, 1981. Phenomenal. I'm not even gonna debate it no more. Deserves to be on the list.

SPEAKER_06 15:51

Number nine.

SPEAKER_03 15:52

Right, and that's my werewolf movie. Well, you know what? I might have another one on there, but right now that's my werewolf movie. Whitey.

SPEAKER_05 15:59

All right, that was my number nine, so I'll move on to my next. I'm not like you, I can't drop names like you can when it comes to like directors and celebrities and actors and shit like this. But I do know I I saw this particular movie when I was a kid, and as a kid it kind of scared you just because it's creepy. Uh and there's been m multiple makes of this, but uh Nosferatu the vampire, but this is the the Werner Horror Zog one uh from nine like 1979-ish.

SPEAKER_03 16:27

Yeah. Well the new one was pretty much.

SPEAKER_05 16:30

Yeah, and then Yeah, there's been like four or five. Of course, the original goes back to like uh the nineteen thirties or something like that. Right. Well, there's a lot of reiterations of them. We've all seen that character uh with the long creepy fingernails and shit, you know. Yeah, but you know, your classic Dracula vampire guy.

SPEAKER_03 16:48

Right. Well, the Nasferatsu thing has got an interesting story. I mean, they've done really well with it. So yeah, no, I actually absolutely I'm I'm on board. I'm surprised Dave hasn't like.

SPEAKER_05 16:58

I'm a Werner I'm a Werner Hurterzog fan. Uh most everything he does is uh pretty uh fantastic.

SPEAKER_06 17:04

Well, in some circles, the original lost um the original movie, which was done back when like in the 1920s or whatever, some people in some circles believe that's actually a real vampire.

SPEAKER_05 17:16

Yeah, yeah, I've heard that before. Yeah, yeah, especially back then in the 1920s when people really you know, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 17:23

We see weird stuff all the time here, but I got in the back of mind there was actually a spoof done on it as well.

SPEAKER_03 17:29

Um I think like Salem's Lot, I might have been like kind of loosely based. I mean, that guy in Salem's Lot kind of reminds me of Nas Radu.

SPEAKER_06 17:37

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:38

A little bit. I don't know. There's been some things in there when it comes to that. Absolutely. Why look at you, man, coming up with some of these obscure flicks, too. I'm more mainstream riv a little bit, but that's just the way I roll. Look at Goldfish just looking up, he just knows that he's gonna.

SPEAKER_05 17:53

I I got some mainstream here too. Don't worry.

SPEAKER_03 17:56

Mainstream is good. Like I said, I got four pages of movies here. I gotta figure out what I want to do.

SPEAKER_05 18:00

Well, we're not doing four pages of movies. No, I just got the director's bio biography and everything.

SPEAKER_03 18:06

No, not that there's four pages. I got I got four pages of movies, man. I got a lot of shit. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_06 18:15

What the fucking director had for breakfast on day three of shooting.

SPEAKER_03 18:18

No, if you're a movie guy and you know about your horror shit, you know about the whole thing with John Landis and American Well for London. Come on, that's it's in the given.

SPEAKER_06 18:27

All right, and he's still going on about the movie for cross sake. Come on, all right.

SPEAKER_03 18:32

So, what what's your what's your next terrible movie?

SPEAKER_06 18:36

My next awesome movie is Event Horizon 1997.

SPEAKER_03 18:41

Came up during sci-fi, and uh and it and we said then it was a horrible true idea.

SPEAKER_06 18:46

Great movie, great movie, but a lot of crossover with yeah, but despite what people are saying, there is not being a a remake or or a or a sequel being made at all. There's been some stuff flying around, but no, it's not happening. But uh great movie, and you know towards the end where they're getting the flashes of the actual what happened to the crew, if you slow that down and have a look at some of the shit that the crew members are doing to each other, it'll give you fucking nightmares. Um seriously, but because it flashes so quick, subconsciously your brain registers all that, but you don't consciously uh register it. And that's why it gives that sort of real creep factor to it. Brilliant movie.

SPEAKER_03 19:30

Very good movie. I definitely give you that. And like I said, that definitely the cross genre, sci-fi, but definitely more pure horror. There's some fucking crazy shit that goes on in that movie, man.

SPEAKER_06 19:41

I know.

SPEAKER_03 19:42

I'm not a fan of those types of movies. Like, I don't like being scared going to bed. I want to go to bed feeling good about myself.

SPEAKER_06 19:48

You walk around scared all the time, it's your natural state. You you like the fucking badger that comes out and looks at his shadow or whatever it is and jumps back inside. What's that fucking thing called? The groundhog. Like the bad Posta Conti badger or something? Well, they what's the fucking word you use over there? Groundhog. No, it comes from Postaconti or something. What where is it? Punk Punksitani Phil.

SPEAKER_03 20:09

There you go. That's that's a fucking groundhog, Dave. Right, Punxitani Phil. And you're worried, go worry about what you got, kangaroos and freaking wombats over there. Where where are you at? What's could what could kill you today over there? What's what are you worried about? What's coming in your backyard to eat you today?

SPEAKER_05 20:27

He's got that that one critter that was uh heckling your uh backyard a couple years ago there.

SPEAKER_06 20:32

Well, the fucking possums. The possums. Yeah, possums. Yeah, I won that war. Never fuck with a Cold War veteran. I'm telling you, man.

SPEAKER_03 20:41

I'm gonna bring up this movie next, and I'm gonna do it because it's definitely a movie that needs to be talked about when it comes to horror, and it's gonna make some some great sound bites that I'm gonna throw in right now.

SPEAKER_07 20:52

The power of Christ compels you! That the power of Christ compels you!

SPEAKER_01 20:59

The power of Christ compels you, do you know what she did? Y'all can't telling your help!

SPEAKER_03 21:09

People know what I'm gonna be doing. The next movie I'm gonna talk about is The Exorcist. And the reason why I'm gonna talk about The Exorcist is because I did say that I don't like demonic movies, and I don't, but I will say that besides the wicked witch of the west, that bitch still scares the crap out of me.

SPEAKER_06 21:29

And you have the crack at me with the legend of the seven golden vampires. Really?

SPEAKER_03 21:34

That voice of Husman fucking just scares the shit out of me.

SPEAKER_05 21:37

I'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog too.

SPEAKER_06 21:43

Wait, tell me, just pause there a second. So if that witch scares the fuck out of ya, you must have been uh a gibbering fucking mess when you're a kid with HR Puff and stuff and the witch out of that one.

SPEAKER_03 21:55

No, well, I'm gonna tell you right now, man. I watched some crazy shit when I was young. But for some reason, the fucking witch from The Wizard of Oz scared the shit out of me, man. And even today, I still see her. My word, I'm like, it's fucking, I can't take it, man. It's like really bad. I don't know. But anyway, so the the reason why I bring up The Exorcist is because The Exorcist goes down as probably one of the most disturbing movies ever made. One of the most disturbing. I shouldn't say the because people get mad when it comes to you know what's the most disturbing. Is it this movie? Is it that movie? That movie's pretty freaky. You watch that movie as a kid and you're really scared shitless. But that fucking stuff that goes on in that movie, right? And it's got a great cast, right? Max Vincent's in the fucking movie. Linda Blair's fucking like eight years old, telling the fucking priest to fuck her. Fuck me. Hold on. Here's the soundbite. All right, there you go. Um, right, okay, right. And so you got freaking Father Karras in there, the guy who played um, what's his name in uh Rudy, right? Uh Jason Miller. That's who it was. Father Carris. That movie is fucking freaky. Go watch The Exorcist today, 52 years later, and that movie still has the same effect as it does then. It's a fucking freaky, scary movie.

SPEAKER_05 23:11

Didn't it really typecast Linda Blair, though? She didn't never really did much after that because everyone sees her as her.

SPEAKER_03 23:18

She was in a movie called Hell Knight, which was a horror movie, which was actually pretty decent. Um, Hell Knight, I'm pretty sure that's the name of it. They did like Exorcist 2, The Heretic, which was horrible. There's a terrible fucking sequel. But The Exorcist 1973, fucking scary ass movie, man. When she comes down and she just starts pissing on the floor, you know, fucking, she's throwing shit up. She's fucking taking the freaking the crucifixion, she's shoving it up herself and things like that. It's just really inappropriate for 1973. Um, really scary movie. And just like think about it. Look at the movie poster for that movie. It's just a guy in a suitcase, like a like in a briefcase, just staring at this fucking house with like a shadow.

SPEAKER_06 23:59

He's under the lamp, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:01

What the fuck it is, man.

SPEAKER_06 24:02

It's fucking scary.

SPEAKER_04 24:03

Everybody fucking knows that staircase that Father Callis jumps out of at the end of the fucking movie. Yeah. At the end, when he gets possessed, he's like, take me and stop.

SPEAKER_07 24:22

Come in the me.

SPEAKER_04 24:30

And he fucking gets and he's fucking the demons inside of him, and he jumps out the fucking window to kill himself, falls down the steps.

SPEAKER_06 24:36

I need everybody to mark this point in time because I have to um agree with Rob, with one exception. Well, I actually had it ranked as number three, not number fucking nine.

SPEAKER_03 24:47

Listen to me, Dave. You're so behind with the fucking ages when it comes to movies like this, that I'm fucking carrying you right now when it comes to the diversity of my list is like can rival the best food list you can make going to the food store with the best products you can ever buy to put on your fucking dinner table. That's what this list is comprised of. The best.

SPEAKER_06 25:11

Dear listeners, the squeaking voice just mentioned that the Exorcist is number eight or nine. But what he failed also to mention, and he spoke about everything that happened in the movie, who was ever in it, and what, but he failed to mention the one important thing, and that's the tround the soundtrack, tubular fucking bells. Mark drop right there.

SPEAKER_03 25:39

Yes. I give you that. Soundtrack is pretty freaky. The the audience just heard it as from a little sound bite that I just put in. But that is the fucking music from and it's so I think that instrumental soundtrack for the exorcist is just as recognizable than most movie soundtrack instrumentals around ever. Probably just if you hear that, you know it's the exorcist. You hear the you know, like we said from close encounters with the thing, whatever, right?

SPEAKER_06 26:10

Yep, yep, yep.

SPEAKER_03 26:10

Right? Just as right. So I will give you that, Dave. I'm I'm glad you helped me. I'm glad you're feeding me content for me to freaking prove my point of how well the exorcist is. I know it's your number three, but I also have some other really good movies on this list.

SPEAKER_06 26:25

And I'm also not we'll see, we'll see.

SPEAKER_03 26:27

I'm also not a huge demonic horror guy. So that's one of the things, too. Remember, this is our favorites. This isn't like the best of everybody else. If we all agreed, it wouldn't be fun, right? I don't know. All right, Whitey, thank you for defending me. I really appreciate it. So, Whitey, where is your what what about your next movie? We'll just go with that. What's what about your next guy?

SPEAKER_05 26:48

All right, my next one on on my uh not so complete list is um again, is it horror or is it just a thriller or is that a cop movie? Okay. Silence of the lambs. It's on every horror list. But horror elements, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 27:06

There's a lot of horror elements.

SPEAKER_05 27:08

You know what the scary part of about that is to me? Like if you want to say what's more scary than real life, right? Right, it's right. You know, that's why it's scary. Buffalo Bill could be Buffalo Bill is out there right now.

SPEAKER_01 27:21

It rubs the lotion on its skin, or else it gets the hose again.

SPEAKER_05 27:26

So there you go. I mean, so that that's the scary thing about silence of the lambs, is those people exist.

SPEAKER_03 27:32

Is she a big old fat girl?

SPEAKER_01 27:34

Oh, wait. Was she a great big fat person?

SPEAKER_03 27:38

Yeah, she was a big girl, sir. Best line ever. I love it, man.

SPEAKER_07 27:46

When he's dancing in front of the mirror, the best.

SPEAKER_03 27:49

He's tucking it back. Dave's done that a few times. Well, he doesn't need to.

SPEAKER_05 28:04

That's what's scary to me about Science of the Lambs. I mean, it's a great movie, uh, well written, well acted. I mean, Jodie Foster's fantastic. And um, you know, what's his name? You can't beat him. Um shit, his name escapes me right now. The lead there, uh, the English guy.

SPEAKER_03 28:20

Anthony Hopkins. Listen, you you gotta remember, you're coming off of Manhunter, which was the first movie that came out, which is based on Red Dragon, right? Brian Cox actually played Hannibal Elector in that movie, and uh it was well received, but it was a totally reimagined when they did Silence of the Lambs and they got Anthony Hopkins to play Hannibal Lecter, and then they went on to redo Red Dragon, and then they wrote Hannibal and they came out with Hannibal and then Hannibal, whatever, blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_05 28:47

I never saw any of those other ones.

SPEAKER_03 28:48

I just whenever I hear that fucking uh Tom Petty song, man, it's like holy shit.

SPEAKER_01 28:53

Take it easy, baby.

SPEAKER_03 29:01

People be like, oh, Fat Suns of Richmond High. I'm like, no, fucking silence of the lambs. But you know what's fucking cool, little trivia about Silence of the Lambs? Anthony Hopkins, obviously, he's behind that glass window, and freaking um Jody Force is supposed to be sitting outside the glass. He filmed all the scenes. There was nobody in front of him but a camera. It wasn't like Jody Forster was there, he filmed all those scenes, but like in front of a camera. He did fucking awesome. Fucking pretty amazing.

SPEAKER_05 29:32

How else would you do it?

SPEAKER_03 29:34

No, usually sometimes you know, when they're doing scenes, they got like over-the-shoulder cameras, two people in the same room.

SPEAKER_05 29:39

Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:40

You know, whatever, this, that, and the other. In that particular case, from what I remember reading about that movie, they couldn't do it the way that thing that sit that area was situated. So it was just like the camera with him at the glass window, and like he's doing talking to Clarice, and she's not there, right? It's just amazing that he's a great actor, you know. I'm just trying to say how great of an actor he is, you know what I mean. Is it kind of hard? You know, it'd be kind of hard for me to talk to you, Whitey, without you in front of me, for God's sake, or on the other side end of a phone. It's kind of hard to have a conversation with yourself.

SPEAKER_06 30:14

You could talk you could talk underwater. What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_03 30:17

It's true. No, but sound to the lambs. I give you that though, man. I I give there's some really good scenes in it. The end, man, is just great. The end when they she's what he's got like the night vision goggles and shit.

SPEAKER_05 30:28

Oh shit, yeah, yeah, man.

SPEAKER_03 30:29

Yeah, yeah, it's a fucking great movie, man. And she did the wrong house, and there's Clarice in Nevada House and stuff, and she realizes that he's the killer. It's just great, man. Um that guy's a great old fat person. Yeah, she's big. Um, dare I ask fucking girlfriend. You gotta put that sound bite in there. I gotta oh, it's gonna be in there. Trust me. I got I gotta figure out how I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna find them all tonight when we get off. Uh every movie we have in here, I'm gonna have all the sound bites for them. I'm gonna try. Did you like the sound bites in the sci-fi? It was fun how I jumped them in there, right?

SPEAKER_06 31:04

Yeah, very clever boy. Clever boy.

SPEAKER_03 31:06

Of course. Never that's why you that's why you befriended me, Dave. You know you would get you be taking places.

SPEAKER_06 31:12

I didn't befriend you. You like the fucking thing that comes a mosquito that lands on you and sucks the blood, and you're trying to swallow him off.

SPEAKER_03 31:20

Thanks a lot, Dave. You're a good guy. All right, what's your next movie? What's your next movie?

SPEAKER_06 31:25

My number eight. It comes from 2007. Um really well done. Based on the Stephen King book, uh The Mist.

SPEAKER_03 31:35

Fucked up ending.

SPEAKER_06 31:36

Yeah. Uh fucked up ending. All right. And with the music playing in the background, the uh the song was the host of um Seraphim uh by the band Dead Can Dance, which actually uh that band pioneered neoclassical dark wave subgenre of music. But a fantastic show. And what I liked is you never really saw uh all the time what the monsters were. You just go out in the mist and hear people screaming and uh plop back against the window and they're blood all over him. And yeah, that was cool, really cool. Yeah, of course. That fucking whack job in the in the supermarket where she you know starts saying this one's the evil one is all because of him.

SPEAKER_03 32:17

And dude, it's the ending is fucked up. They're supposed to be making that again. Are they making a remake of that? I don't know if I can I don't know if I can sit through that movie again for Christ's sake. Um, no, not that I not not that it's a bad movie, the fact that the ending is fucked up.

SPEAKER_05 32:35

You know how it ends once you know how it ends.

SPEAKER_06 32:38

Yeah, yeah. The ending's really, really bad, but um that's what sort of that's what sort of if you didn't have that ending, it would just be uh you know uh an also ran movie. The ending is what sort of makes the movie in a lot of ways.

SPEAKER_03 32:52

No, it does, because if it wasn't for that ending, the movie would probably not be as fucking compelling as it it was, right? See, I can pick good movies, can't I? Yeah, you you can. Um, I don't think that's the best Stephen King movie ever put to film. I mean, uh like horror. Okay, well, Shawshank is still the best overall, ever.

SPEAKER_06 33:15

But it's not a fucking horror film though, is it? If we have if we're talking about we're talking about Stephen King, I would have said Shawshank Redemption or The Green Mile, but we're not. We're talking about horror movies.

SPEAKER_03 33:26

Yeah, I was just gonna say that. It's not a horror movie, but that's but there are there is a better Stephen King horror movie.

SPEAKER_06 33:34

You're like a fucking splinter on my fucking ass cheek. Come on, man.

SPEAKER_03 33:37

All right, so you know, I'm gonna now I'm gonna say it. I'm going with it now. Now I'm coming back at you. All right, because this is where I'm gonna counter you. The mist was good. Good, it was a good movie, shitty, good ending, but shitty ending, like really fucked up. Yeah, yeah. The shining, and I'm gonna tell you why, and I'm sorry, fucking white he's got it. And the shining is why I'm going to right now. Because if you think now I understand the purist out there, those who read Stephen King will know that the book, especially the ending, is very different than the ending that Stanley Kubrick did in the movie. But we can only talk about what's on film, and it's The Shining. And it's an amazing psychological horror movie, and it is horror because there's a lot of horror elements to it. They're isolated, fucking Jack Nicholson is at his best in that movie. I don't think he's ever played a better role, besides like one flew over the cuckoo's nest, than he did in The Shining. Maybe the last detail he was getting too, but that's different. The Shining. All right, Stanley Kubrick, fucking Shelly Duvall is fucking you can't fucking stand her in that movie. They got ashes from a cigarette. Can they please just fucking fall? What? Fucking Danny? Can someone just beat the shit out of that kid with his fucking red rum shit? I'm sick of that kid. But that's why that movie's so good. Because they make you hate them. You hate them. You hate all of them.

SPEAKER_06 35:22

You never did anything for me. Never did anything for me. I found it very boring.

SPEAKER_03 35:26

One of the best movie lines ever made was in that movie.

SPEAKER_01 35:31

I'm not gonna hurt you. You didn't let me finish my sentence. I said, I'm not gonna hurt you. I'm just gonna bash your brains in. I'm gonna bash them right the fuck in. Lies. Lies.

SPEAKER_03 35:46

Here's Johnny. I'm telling you right now, it's a great movie, The Shining. There's so many great elements to that. You know what? The Welcome to Derry show brings you good clarity on um a lot of the the things that that like in that that goes on in the shining, right? And uh, I think that people who haven't seen it has to.

SPEAKER_05 36:08

Most people listen to Welcome to Derry.

SPEAKER_03 36:12

It's the it welcome to dairy. It's a prequel for it. Remember, all of Stephen King's books all are in the same universe in that Dark Tower universe, they made it. So everything takes place. Everything. Shawshank Redemption is in the same universe as It, Pet Cemetery, Green Mile, The Running Man, everything. It's all in the same universe. Yeah. It's all the same.

SPEAKER_05 36:36

It's a place called Maine. It's fucking weird. Right.

SPEAKER_03 36:39

All different fucking right. Castle Rock, Derry, this, that, and the other.

SPEAKER_05 36:43

You got some look at the movie Christine. You know.

SPEAKER_02 36:48

I was gonna I might I might be talking about it.

SPEAKER_05 36:52

Uh you know, the uh the old the old man with his weird back brace thing. The the the guy he buys the car from, remember? Right, yeah, of course. That's your quintessential main neighbor down the street right there, man. Yeah. Those those those old Yankees are freaking weird.

SPEAKER_03 37:12

The Shining is definitely on the list. And the reason why Stephen King wrote that book is because he stayed at the Stanley Hotel in Colorado, and he had some really crazy shit happen to him when he was there. According to him, now this is Stephen King, who's probably coked out of his mind for all we know. But this, you know, the thing is, is it's like he was isolated during the winter time there, and just think of being isolated, and just think of what that guy did. He fucking neglected the hotel, and in the book, he kind of comes to at the end, and he realizes that he fucked up, and he actually saves his family at the end. They get out of the hotel, and he stays in there and holds off the boiler before it blows up at the end of the book. So the book is a lot different. He doesn't go trying to kill Danny at the end, he actually saves him at the end in the book, so it's a little different. So The Shining that's me. Better than the mist when it comes to Stephen King adaptation. Um, Dave is looking at porn again. Get this guy fucking Whitey. Hold on. Yeah, Whitey, it's your turn.

SPEAKER_05 38:19

What do we got next? On my list, I got uh the old classic Halloween.

SPEAKER_03 38:32

On my list too. Talk about it. Let's go.

SPEAKER_05 38:36

Um, I don't know. How do you how do you expound on that? I mean, Michael Myers, man. Old pair of coveralls and a uh what's her name? Jamie Lee Curtis. She was great in it.

SPEAKER_03 38:48

Jamie Lee Curtis, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 38:49

She's good in any movie.

SPEAKER_05 38:51

Uh yeah, so that's just I I like that movie. Started as a kid, and it it was that was one of those ones like during the 80s that was just always on HBO.

SPEAKER_03 39:00

It was, it was. And uh interesting about Halloween, there's a lot of things great about Halloween. It's on my list. Donald Pleasants, he gets Donald Pleasance in because everybody knew him. He was a well-known actor. Gets him on for Dirt Cheap to make this movie. They're filming it in California and Pasadena. They had to kind of paint the fucking leaves to make them look like they were falling around because the trees are supposed to be supposed to be October in fucking Indiana, late October, almost November, so the trees should be falling. So they'd fucking always had to just drop leaves everywhere. Remember, Halloween was supposed to be a stand-alone movie. There wasn't supposed to be a sequel. And what they were originally gonna do was is they were gonna make a new a movie every year. They wanted to make a not a necessarily movie every year, but they wanted to make a movie like sequels but have different stories. So the original Halloween was such a hit that the studio commissioned a sequel and they didn't know what to do. So they're like, Well, why don't we make Lori Strode his sister? And that's what they did. Oh, and there's like eight timelines in Halloween now. There's like the Divergent timeline, this timeline, they got rid of this timeline, did the Bloomhouse timeline. It's like so many different timelines, like the Halloween four timeline, all these different timelines. They fucked it all up. But the original Halloween is a fucking great movie. The music, there's not a drop of blood in that movie, not a drop of blood.

SPEAKER_05 40:23

Yeah, true enough.

SPEAKER_03 40:24

Um, yeah, it's great, man. Yeah, it's a great movie. It starred the whole like babysitter. I mean, I know like you know, uh Black Christmas was like where they like for sorority checks or whatever, but that was the first movie where like the babysitter's gonna get killed, and that's why Halloween is so resonates today because it's such an iconic movie. Um, it started it all without the Halloween without Halloween, you wouldn't have gotten the burning, which came out like in 80, which was like sort of like Friday the 13th. Yeah, Friday the 13th, and then all those other movies. So without Halloween, you wouldn't have got those other ones.

SPEAKER_06 41:00

So what do you think about Halloween? Uh the movie, the 2018 uh version that came out. The new ones, yeah. No 2018, right?

SPEAKER_03 41:08

That's the timeline where they forget about everything else, right? Halloween 2 never took place, Halloween 4, 5, 6, Curse of McAmai's. That timeline never took place. Halloween 3 is a whole nother story that has nothing to do with the ones. Season of the Witch is one of my favorite movies. It's not I didn't I'm not gonna talk about it today because I'll piss you off, but it is great in its own right, Tom Atkins. But did I like that? Yes, I did like Halloween 2018. I thought it was really fucking good, but Halloween Kills wasn't that great. They kind of fucked it up a little bit. And forget about Halloween ends, it's a travesty. That movie. Halloween ends was so fucking bad. It's a movie about Michael Myers. It's that had no Michael Myers in it, it's horrible. Just don't want to talk about it, get me upset.

SPEAKER_05 41:54

And let's not talk about it.

SPEAKER_06 41:56

Yeah, Halloween, yeah. It's a it's public.

SPEAKER_03 42:00

It's not a that is listen.

SPEAKER_06 42:02

That's one it's a one you if you if you want to scroll with a girl, you talk to say Halloween, so she sits in your lap. That's that's a movie.

SPEAKER_03 42:09

This is where I'm gonna argue with you. There's certain horror movies that are iconic that started franchises that are so important to the horror genre. It can't just be fucking Vincent Price on fucking House on Haunted Hill and the House of Wax, not Belagosi walking around like fucking Frankenstein or where those fucking guys are, Dracula and all this other shit. We're talking about iconic horror icons, icons here for God's sake. You're talking about the fucking mist, and we're talking about Michael Myers and Halloween, and we're gonna debate horror movies here.

SPEAKER_06 42:44

That's a bit of a stretch. That's a bit of a stretch calling it you know a top horror movie.

SPEAKER_03 42:50

Are you kidding me? That movie, it's you want to talk about you, you know, you had hold on, timeout. This is something that's gotta get a planet. You talked about Planet of the Apes and how it spawned 10 sequels, and they were all fucking terrible. Yeah, and then we're talking about Halloween that also spawned about 10 sequels, some good, some really fucking bad. And you want to sit here and try to rationale your fucking opinion about movies? Yeah, absolutely. Disappointed in you, man.

SPEAKER_06 43:16

Halloween, the original, doesn't even make it in the top 50 of the highest grossing movies. It's actually it doesn't matter, it's not about the money, it's a 2018 version that doesn't about the money, man. And even then it only makes number 30.

SPEAKER_03 43:29

It doesn't matter, man. It doesn't matter because you know why? Fucking Firefly is a great fucking show, right? Serenity was a great fucking movie. Did it make a billion dollars?

SPEAKER_06 43:40

I I can't argue with uh that they're great shows because they are.

SPEAKER_03 43:44

We're going off a tangent. We're getting mad now. Now we're gonna be fucking humanity. We're not gonna talk and have another show. So, what is what is your next movie here?

SPEAKER_06 43:51

My next movie is the first of my zombie movies, and this is done in 2016. It's a foreign film. Correct. Korean train to Busan.

SPEAKER_03 44:01

Train to Busan is a great movie, man.

SPEAKER_06 44:04

Bussain, not Busan. What the fuck?

SPEAKER_03 44:06

Busan or whatever, whatever. And wow, what what a fucking talk about the mist ending? Go watch that movie. The ending of that movie. Crazy.

SPEAKER_06 44:17

You know, the stuff that's coming out of Korea that is being picked up by um Western Studios now is just sensational. I mean, you've got uh The Parasite that was won recently, and um Yeah, well, that won Best Picture. Yeah, I did so there's fantastic original ideas that come out of Korea, and this is a standalone movie. They did a um uh follow-up movie to this one, actually. But this movie it has you on the edge of your seat the whole time. And imagine you're stuck on this train that's uh going to Busan, and there's zombies apocalypse happening all around you, and and and on the train as well. Yeah, scary shit, scary shit.

SPEAKER_03 44:57

I probably would have never watched it because I'm not a big fan of like subtitled movies.

SPEAKER_06 45:02

No, I'm not either. I'm I'm with you, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:04

So I watched that movie. I'm a big Joe Bob Briggs fan, and um actually he just got the show's not gonna be on shutter anymore. He does his driving double features on the show, and he did to train to Busan. Yep, yeah, and I watched it and I was like, holy cow, man, this is really fucking good. Yeah, it really is a good movie. Those who haven't seen it, it is good. I can't argue with Dave. Um, I don't want to give away the ending, but the ending is really sad at the end. It's really sad.

SPEAKER_06 45:34

Ending's really fucked up.

SPEAKER_03 45:35

Yeah, it's a really sad ending. Um, but a really good movie, and it is a really good zombie movie. It's not my favorite, it's not one of my favorite because I'm not as I'm not as diverse as you, I guess.

SPEAKER_06 45:44

I guess I'm not as nuanced as I am.

SPEAKER_03 45:46

I'm not highbrow, as you say.

SPEAKER_06 45:48

Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 45:48

I'm not highbrow. I'm not highbrow. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_06 45:52

Uh depending on your number seven in. What's your number seven, Rob?

SPEAKER_03 45:55

All right, so I gotta get a vampire one in here for me.

SPEAKER_06 45:58

Okay, okay. I've got a couple of vampire one vampire.

SPEAKER_03 46:01

And this is definitely gonna cause a problem with you, but in my opinion, it could be a bunch because there's a lot of good vampire type horror movies, and this will be more of like a horror, maybe some comedy, touches of comedy. It's comedy too, a little bit. 1985, right? And I am gonna tell you right now that one of your favorite actors who was in Planet of the Apes was in it, Roddy McDowell. Do you know the movie? Yeah, go on. 1985, directed by uh one Tom Holland, not the one that plays Spider-Man. He also did Child's Play, Fright Night.

SPEAKER_01 46:37

Welcome to Fright Night. For real.

SPEAKER_03 46:45

And the reason why Fright Knight is one of my favorite horror movies is that again, it's something that I grew up with. You're so cool, Brewster!

SPEAKER_01 46:55

Oh, you're so cool, Brewster!

SPEAKER_03 46:57

What a great fucking movie. Fright Knight just takes the vampire genre and the vampire kind of story and just turns it upside down. You got a vampire living next to you, this Jerry Dandritz, Brewster, Charlie Brewster looks out of his window and then sees some hot broad going into this guy's house, and then the next day sees that this chick was found with her head chopped off in the back of an alleyway. And he's like, Holy shit, man, what's going on? And he realizes his fucking neighbor is a fucking vampire. And he's trying to call this guy out. The guy comes over to his house, he's like, Listen, man, I don't want any problems. I'm just trying to live my life as a vampire. You keep your mouth shut and we'll be good. And he doesn't, he still fucks around with him. And Roddy McDowell's got his like little Vincent Price fucking um um, what do you call it? Uh, what's his name? We talked about him before again. I'm I'm blanking right now. Help me out. Star Wars. You just talked about him. Your first movie, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 47:50

Uh but um what's his name?

SPEAKER_03 47:52

I've forgetting what his name is again. I'm blanking here. Help me out.

SPEAKER_06 47:56

I'm I'm too busy trying to get to the other point I'm trying to make because oh my god, help me out. 2011 movie was better than the 1995 movie.

SPEAKER_03 48:05

Wait a minute. You think the remake, you think the remake with with um with um the yelk the Yelkin kid who passed away with fucking what's his name is Jerry Danders is better?

SPEAKER_06 48:16

100.

SPEAKER_03 48:17

Listen, that was a good fucking take in the movie, but it's not better than the original Fright Night. Now, granted, I'm gonna give you this. I will give you this. What's his name from Doctor Who played Jerry played David Tennant? He's instead of like being what's his name? Ryan McDowell's role was him being like the um Peter Cushing in that movie, Rodney McDowell, right? That was the Peter Cushing role, right? The fucking Sherlock Holmes fucking version of fucking a vampire hunter, right? And in the fucking remake, David Tennant is like a magician in fucking Vegas.

SPEAKER_06 48:51

Yes, he's uh lucky he's Hulk Schlick is like the Dark Lord type thing, and that's why I got to him.

SPEAKER_03 48:57

So the way he kills Jerry Dandritz in the remake is definitely better than the way they killed Jerry Dandritz in the original. I'll give you that. When he wears like the fireproof suit and shit, yeah, and he grabs him, which was pretty cool. But the original Fright Night was so awesome, man. Freaking um, it's just evil, his friend Evil was fucking hysterical on that movie. Um, this is a great movie, Fright Night. You gotta watch it. It's one of the best fucking vampire movies ever. 1985, so nostalgic, excellent. It's totally on my list.

SPEAKER_05 49:29

I got it, I got it on my uh alternate list.

SPEAKER_06 49:32

Ah here's the thing though. Tom Holland was involved in the first one. He's also the writer for the remake in um 2019. He was involved with the remake, but the remake was the remake was a lot different because it doesn't that that's that says to you immediately that Tom Holland wasn't happy with the first movie, and he himself probably admits that it wasn't the best movie.

SPEAKER_03 49:53

Tony Collette plays fucking I um Anton Anton Yelti's mother, and whatever how you ever say his name, he passed away like 10 years ago now. He got killed like his car crushed him in his fucking driveway. In the movie, she knows that Jerry Dandridge is bad. Remember, she's helping him, his son, Jerry. Yes, yes, but in the original, like she's so the mother's oblivious to it. So different. It's a different take of that story. So, yes. Where fucking he goes in, he rips the fucking the remake, he rips the pipes out of the ground, the gas pipes. Yep, yeah, nuts, bro.

SPEAKER_06 50:27

Pretty good. You can't say the second movie was uh worse.

SPEAKER_03 50:31

It it you know you I didn't say it was worse, but it's not better than the original. Fucking um no. Chris Sarandon is so good. Listen, there's a couple of great roles that Chris Sarandon's played. One is Dog Day Afternoon when he plays Al Pacino's boyfriend who needs the sex change. That's why he's robbing the bank. Remember Chris Sarandon? I think he won an Academy Award for that role. But he's amazing as fucking as uh Jerry Dandritz in Fright Night. All right, Whitey, we're back to you now.

SPEAKER_05 50:58

Oh man, okay. I know you didn't want to hear about black and white movies, but I'm gonna throw one at the moment.

SPEAKER_03 51:02

All right, well, you might be forgiving this here.

SPEAKER_05 51:04

All right. The birds, man. Uh Alf uh Alf Alfred Hitchcock.

SPEAKER_03 51:08

Yeah. Yeah. Listen, you gotta have an Alfred Hitchcock. I got I have well, I have I said I had one on my list.

SPEAKER_05 51:14

You gotta have an Alfred Hitchcock movie. Our movies would allow it. Yeah, the birds, I I like the birds because it was uh I don't know. Uh I I saw it as a little kid, you know, and we used to vacation down in Cape Card and it'd be seagulls all over the place. So after seeing that movie, I was like, ah, this is kind of freaky. Right. You know. I just remember the girl, the uh, what was it, like the old lady. She walks up on the porch, I believe, and there's the old lady there with a this is kind of um you know reminiscent of your old lady getting gunned down in the uh bridge too far. Um she walks up and the old lady had her eyeballs all poked out, and remember she was sitting on I think if my memory serves, she's sitting there on the porch because the birds already took care of her. You know, and it was kind of that freaked me out with the good movie, good choice, Marty.

SPEAKER_06 52:00

Good choice.

SPEAKER_03 52:00

You know what I love? You know what's funny about the birds? Um, you always gotta think of the spoof movie um on Hitchcock by Mel Brooks, High Anxiety. When he's when the lady's getting attacked by the birds in the park, it's Mel Mel Brooks is in the park and he's running and the birds are shitting on him. He can't get away from him and they're shitting all over him. It's fucking hysterical. That's a fucking great it's a fucking great scene. But yeah, the birds, it's it's good, Whitey. That's a good flick. It's a good flick. I we can't get mad at you because you're definitely neutral here. It's the me and fucking goldfinch that have animosity right now with each other.

SPEAKER_05 52:38

I'm not gonna argue over someone else's like for a movie. I mean, go ahead and like what you like, man. We put that out at the beginning, didn't we, as a disclaimer?

SPEAKER_06 52:46

Well, yeah, well, Wadi, you and I are marching along in lockstep. It's it's fucking rubb becomes mincing down the fucking road with all these fucking weird things he's putting up.

SPEAKER_03 52:54

What are you talking about? Every movie I've given is sort of mainstream.

SPEAKER_06 52:59

Really? Yeah. You got one you've only done one mainstream movie, and that was um Shining Shining, yeah. American Werewolf in London is not mainstream.

SPEAKER_03 53:10

Fright night is not mainstream.

SPEAKER_06 53:12

You say, if you say American Werewolf belongs in the top 10, you might as well say that the Rocky Horror show belongs in the top 10 as a horror show.

SPEAKER_05 53:19

It American Werewolf in London definitely does, though, Dave. I mean, if you if you just wanted to go back to the the the special I mean, think about when that movie what year was it made? Rick Baker, man. The special effects of hint the transformation of Fantastic in that. It doesn't look uh like nowadays it's easy to do that shit, man. You know, AI, boom, here you go. Here's a guy turning into a freaking werewolf. But back then, man, it was um, you know, again, Rob can name off the makeup artist and everything, I'm sure. Uh but I I've always thought that was a good uh Rick Baker, just amazing. Yeah, yeah. Rick Baker, was that the guy?

SPEAKER_03 53:55

Tom Savini, who I'm gonna talk about at some point tonight, and Rick Baker. Tom Savini's one of the best makeup artists ever um in Hollywood when it comes to horror. You work with Romero, a bunch of people. Rick Baker, too, amazing. This is iconic. It's iconic. If you got in Fangoria magazine, like Rick Baker was like all over that magazine back in the 80s, it's fucking amazing. But Dave Golfinch knows nothing about that because he's not, as he would say, highbrow when it comes to his horror shit.

SPEAKER_06 54:22

Well, listen, the American werewolf in London in the top 10 is like putting back to the future and top 10 of sci-fi.

SPEAKER_03 54:29

And it wasn't, no one mentioned back to the future. So I don't know what you're doing.

SPEAKER_06 54:32

That's what I'm saying. It's it's it's that's no, you're wrong.

SPEAKER_03 54:35

Um, Dave. Dave, you're wrong. You know, I got some email. I was trying not to say not I was trying not to go hole along here. I'll show you some messages of some of the some of your picks from the from uh our sci-fi where people are like, What the fuck was Dave smoking with that? That's all lies, lies. You think so? Oh my god, yes. All right, did you go? Is it your turn to go, Dave?

SPEAKER_06 54:57

It's my turn to go.

SPEAKER_03 54:58

Number two. Let's see how let's see how uh underwhelming your next pick is gonna be.

SPEAKER_06 55:03

A first and only vampire movie, 30 Days of Night, 2007.

SPEAKER_03 55:07

Oh, great flick. Awesome flick. Danny Houston pays the scariest motherfucker vampire in there, dude. Uh Josh Hartnet is fucking great. Hotnet was is great now, too. Good movie, man. Really good movie. Believe it or not, that's one of the first Blu-rays I ever bought was 30 Days of Night. Yeah, I still have that's one of the first Blu-rays I bought. Yeah, great, good movie. I can't fight with you, Add. It's a good movie. Now, do I think it's a top 10? Oh, but do I think it's a good flick? Sure.

SPEAKER_05 55:39

I can't argue this is Dave's top 10. Right, this is your top 10.

SPEAKER_03 55:43

I can't argue. It's a fun movie, it really is, and it's a really fucking cool concept. It is a cool concept, cool concept for a flick, and they've made a couple of sequels or a sequel to that, I think.

SPEAKER_06 55:54

Yeah, it didn't go too well. Uh prefer the original. But see, what you're saying is with with mine, and you say I'm highbrow. I'm not highbrow. What I'm picking is movies that leave a bit of a hair sticking in the back of your neck after you leave the cinema, or or you you think about it after a while. You're not sitting there eating your popcorn, and when you leave the cinema, you've forgotten all about it.

SPEAKER_03 56:18

Right. So the difference I'm I'm choosing things that um 30 days a night, but it's it's not better than the lost boys, it's not better than Fright Night.

SPEAKER_06 56:28

Uh, hang on. Just saying the Lost Boys are better than 30 Days? The Lost Boys, really?

SPEAKER_03 56:35

Well, it's different. They're different types of vampire movies, they're different. Like in 30 Days a Night, these fuckers are biting your neck off. They're fucking taking out your jugular. It's a little different.

SPEAKER_05 56:45

Again, the Lost Boys. Can you even call that a horror movie? It's a fucking soft type of a movie. Come on.

SPEAKER_03 56:52

It's got horror elements, but it's on every horror list. No, exactly. It's a horror flick. I mean, you got you know, it's people are not people are dying, you know. It's this thing's going on there. I mean, the original concept for the Lost Boys, and the reason why it is called the Lost Boys, is because it was supposed to be with younger teenage kids. They went with adult teenagers because they thought that using younger kids would not would not go over well. So, like Dan Um David and all those the his group, his group of vampires, they were supposed to be like 12 and 13 years old in the original script. That's why it's called the Lost Boys.

SPEAKER_05 57:30

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_03 57:31

They fly. I don't believe you.

SPEAKER_05 57:33

Oh, they're vampires, so of course they're fine.

SPEAKER_03 57:36

All right. So we're gonna start fighting here. And and I gotta really think about how I want to where I want to go with this. And there's a lot to choose from in my case case, because there are some things I would do want to talk about that we're not gonna have nothing in the list. But I'm gonna say this, and I have to, because it's it's I think it's it's definitely another movie that I it I I wouldn't say it's demonic, but it is kind of possession, and it's probably one of the whole reasons why it's one of the movies, amongst others, that created the PG-13 rating system, because it fucking freaked the shit out of people like Gremlins did, as well as movies like uh Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. Poltergeist.

SPEAKER_07 58:20

This ass is clean.

SPEAKER_03 58:23

And the reason why poltergeist is on the fucking list, even though it is rated PG, there's a lot of interesting things about that movie. One being obviously we know about the supposed curse that comes along. You got what's her name, Hello Rourke dying. You got Dominique Dunn, who's Griffin Dunn's sister, who was in American Wealth in London. She gets murdered uh by the boy of her boyfriend before this even came out in the theaters. So she died before this movie ever came to the theaters. A young Joe Beth Williams, who was slamming hot in that movie, as well as Craig T. Nelson. Not saying he was hot, but he was good in the movie. Why was that movie fucking scary? Are you gonna tell me that poltergeist wasn't a fucking scary fucking movie, man? The clown scene when he's getting choked by the clown under the bed or the fucking tree when he's counting one when I was a kid and it was a thunderstorm. I'm like 11,000, two one thousand. Fucking I was scared shit at thunderstorms when I was a kid because of that movie.

SPEAKER_07 59:22

One one thousand, two one thousand, three one not to mention fucking Caroline going to fucking television and shit.

SPEAKER_03 59:35

But here's another fucking trivia. The fucking skeletons in the fucking pool were real fucking human skeletons that they used. Wow. Yes. Another interesting fucking trivia for that movie. Uh Toby Hooper, who fucking directed it, he never really even directed that movie. It was fucking Steven Spielberg who directed it. He wasn't allowed to direct it because of some things going on with like the what how many movies you can direct. So he was on as a producer, but he was there almost every day of shooting, directing too. So that movie really is a Steven Spielberg movie. Um, fucking scary as shit where you think it's over and it's not, and she's fucking getting thrown up the wall and fucking all this shit, and the fucking daughter gets home and she's screaming, the fucking house is all fucking lighting up. If you're gonna tell me that that movie's not scary, there's another cool trivia about this, and I'm gonna I can't remember exactly what it was. So there's a Super Bowl poster on Robbie's wall and in in um in poltergeist, right? And this is why it's fucking weird. On the poster of the fucking Super Bowl, now the movie was released in 1982, right? The poster of the Super Bowl takes place on a on a Sunday in 1988. It's the same day that fucking Heather O'Rourke got sick and died. Fucking crazy, man. So the post, so this is another thing. So the poster on the wall, now this movie came out in 1982. The poster on the wall is for a Super Bowl that takes place in 1988, and the fucking date on the poster is the date of the of when Heather O'Rourke got sick and died.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:07

Where would they even get a poster for 88?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:10

I don't know. Watch the movie. On the wall in Robbie's room is a poster for a Super Bowl that and it says the date 1988, and that's the same day that she that Heather O'Rourke got sick and died. Crazy. So poltergeist. Not only is it scary when you watch it, hearing all the shit that took place afterwards and all these people dying and all this other stuff makes it even scarier. So poltergeist is on my list, and I'm gonna have it there, and I'm not gonna take it back. So there you go.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:36

You don't have to do it. Your list for my list.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:40

It definitely belongs here. It's a good movie.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:43

Alright, so uh Mr. Whitey. Well, back to you, my favorite person tonight. All right.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:50

Back to me. Um here's a movie that freaked me out as a kid. Uh a 1977. Uh because again, there was there's nothing's original anymore. They always make remakes. Uh, but the 1977, The Island of Dr. Morose. Yeah, that was a good movie. That thing scared me because not scared me, but I mean, as a little kid, it was just kind of freaking out.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:11

Yeah, they're doing like experiments, like human fucking animals.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:15

I remember all of us uh wise guys in the neighborhood would always be like quoting it with uh the what what is the what is the law? Right? Who's the guy?

SPEAKER_03 1:02:24

Who was the who's the guy in it? He was in uh he was uh he was um in Austin Powers. He was the main like the boss, he was the main character in that movie. What's his name?

SPEAKER_05 1:02:36

Oh shit, he was in Austin Powers? Yeah, yeah. Uh it's been a while since I saw the flick, so man, it'd be what character did he play in Austin Powers? It'd be easier to do.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:47

He played like he played uh what's his name's like boss? He played uh whatever. What the hell is his name?

SPEAKER_05 1:02:53

Austin's boss, like the leader.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:55

Yeah, Michael York. Michael York was in fucking that movie.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:59

Michael York. Okay, I'll I'll take your word for it, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:02

I'm pretty sure he was in that movie. I mean, uh, I could be wrong. Hold on a minute.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:06

I thought you were Michael York was in that movie. He was, right? Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:11

Are you just saying yes to shut me up, or are you telling me you wasn't?

SPEAKER_06 1:03:14

No, it's a fact. He was actually in there, so yeah, he was in that movie.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:17

I was that's how I remember him from that from that original movie. Yeah. Listen, Whitey, you you got some you got very, very good flicks. Dave isn't saying shit about your movies.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:26

In the days leading up to this, I was thinking about like, okay, I know I'm not a horror movie expert. I'm not gonna be able to name directors like and drop all this trivia like Rob can. But I was like, all right, what what movies have I seen that that quote scared me? Like, you know, or I thought was like you know, freaky. So these are the movies that I picked out of my ass.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:47

Listen, I mean, I'm a movie guy. I I I what I like to research movies and I like movies, I like to know what's going on.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:52

You remind me of my cousin. Uh I guess you know, uh my cousin Greg, who uh I've talked about him before on here, I think when we did the sci-fi, because he's a big Star Wars guy, he's also a big horror guy. He's a big movie guy in general. Uh so and and at the end we'll tie this whole thing back to modeling and and I'll bring him up because it's kind of humorous. But anyway, yeah, he was a he was the type of person that could name uh directors and just different uh you know aspects of movies and film and everything.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:20

It's like a way of life for me. You know, it's and I'm not good at a lot of things, but in movie stuff, I'm I think I'm pretty decent at it.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:26

That's correct. That's correct.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:27

Thanks a lot, Dave. You're all uh Whitey, what's your next movie? Not Whitey, another guy. No, Dave, what's your next movie?

SPEAKER_06 1:04:39

Fuck me. Okay, this is my second and last zombie movie. Uh 2004.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:48

Oh, I know you hold on. Sean of the Dead if it's 04.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:53

Absolute brilliant film.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:54

I don't know it was Born of the Dead. If it's 04, it's Sean of the Dead.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:58

Dawn of the Dead, Dawn, Dawn, Dawn, Born of the Dead.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:04

Yes, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa. Hold on a second. You got the remote okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:10

Wasn't Sean of the Dead a comedy? Wasn't that a Sean was a comedy?

SPEAKER_03 1:05:14

Horror comedy.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:15

Yep.

unknown 1:05:16

All right.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:16

Oh, it's I thought you said Sean of the Dead. Oh, sorry, so you got the remake of Dawn of the Dead.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:20

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:22

All right.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:23

Okay, it was it was great. The zombie, the opening scene where she comes back from Notchef in the hospital and she's uh sleeping in the bed, you know, waking up, and then the kid from next door is walking in. She goes, Oh, hi, what are you doing here? And she's next to me. She flies at her.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:39

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the remake. Okay, you know, you know what? I'll I'm just gonna put my so we gotta go back to back right now. So you're talking about the the the remake of old in in in 2004.

unknown 1:05:52

Sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:52

Ving Rams in it.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:54

Um, yeah, yeah, Ty Burrell, uh Jake Weber, Michael Kelly, Michael Kelly is at a The um um one of my favorite TV series, War series.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:05

All right, so we'll we're gonna piggyback. We're gonna go. This is the first time we might do this because it's it's fitting. Because Dawn of the Dead 78 is on my list and it's number two. Oh, okay. And it's one of my favorite movies of all time. I don't say it lightly, but Dawn of the Dead 1978 is one of my most watched movies that I ever have done. I watch a version of the movie that is what I call it's like an extended version that has all the cuts of it in one movie perfectly synced. It's the original theatrical cut, the director's cut, and the Argento cut. The Argento cut, Dario Argento is an Italian director, amazing, helped George Romero write the script, kind of sort of back in the day. His cut of the movie that released in Italy was a lot as had more like mall scenes in it and stuff like that. The remake is good, and it should have never even been called Dawn of the Dead. Because the only thing that has any remnants of the original movie is two things. One is they're in a mall, what's the original is too, and two, you have a chick that's pregnant, even though she doesn't give birth in the original. Dawn of the Dead, Zack Schneider's Dawn of the Dead in 2004 is a good fucking movie. It's good, it really is. When they're on the fucking top of the mall and the other guys are on the other building and they're showing chess and all this other shit. Yep, yep, yep. The reason why that movie doesn't do it for me is there's too many fucking people. There's too many people.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:29

They'll slowly die off though, so it's not too bad.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:32

Whatever the case may be, it's it's nowhere near the original. The original, if you watch it and you today standards your public, ah, it's a fucking boring movie. It's four people running around the fucking mall for like three-quarters of the movie until the biker gang. Who's the head of the biker gang? Tom Savini, who was the makeup guy for Dawn of the Dead, for the for the original. The original Dawn of the Dead is so fucking good because it took place in a time where malls weren't really that popular yet. Like the shopping mall was just starting to pick up steam across the country here in the United States. So people didn't really use malls a lot. But it also is a good allegory, right? Is that the right word I'm using? For like consumerism. Where they realize, like it was a good, like how people like they're not worried about living, they're worried about like having goods and services that are afforded to them, which is the reason why they stayed in a mall. Not necessarily because it was safe, but because there's a lot of shit in there that they can use, which we can understand during the zombie apocalypse. But uh, Ken Free, isn't it? It's one of my favorite actors. You know Ken Free, he's in a bunch of movies. So Dawn of the Dead, I think the original is better than the sequel, uh, the remake, Dave. You don't think so? Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:47

No, I I enjoyed the um 2004 movie more than the 78 movie.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:52

Much more action, you gotta all those zombies at the bottom, and at the end, and they're fast zombies as well, which is scary, right?

SPEAKER_06 1:08:59

Because it's scary because I know that as a fat fuck I'd never outrun them.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:03

So which zombie land too should be on the list. The end when they get out of A and they get to an island, and you're like, oh, we're safe, and then all of a sudden you hear like the zombies there too, and they're like, ah well, Tom Savini, you mentioned him before.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:17

He he played that um other iconic role. It's a motorcycle um uh dude from Dust of Dawn from Dust of Dawn, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:24

Yeah, he um he played um what the fuck was uh what the hell is his name in there? He's got the gun dick it's the button in the gun.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:31

He's got the button in his clutch, he's got a gun that pops out sex machine or something.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:36

His name was it's fucking great, man. Oh, yeah. Dust of dawn's that should be on the list, actually.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:41

That should be on the list, too. It's that's a good movie.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:43

That should be an honorable mention. All right, it's my turn. You just did a zombie. Well, I well, I no, it's not my turn. I just did Dawn of the Dead, so it's not my turn. It's Whitey's turn now.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:52

Back to Whitey.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:53

I just talked to Mike Mike about Dawn of the Dead 78, which is an amazing movie. Those who've never seen Dawn of the Dead 1978 or 2004, you need to see them watch the first one first and then watch the remake, and then you make your decision on what's better, but they're both great movies. All right, so you, Whitey.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:09

All right, I'm making a list of horror movies I need to watch. All right, um, again, another one that scared me as a kid. It was uh Salem's Lot. The original. Yeah, yeah, the original. They remade it, that's why they redid it. Well, of course they did. They freaking remade everything. That's you know, yeah, they redid. So anyway, yeah, the original with David Um the guy from Staskin Hutch.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:31

David, David, um oh fuck, David Um is that actor's name, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:38

You know the guy. The blonde haired.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:40

And he he he had those he did a couple of songs that were shit too. What the fuck is his name? David Sol. David Sol. That's it. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:49

So that one's quite as good. That was freaky. That's freaky.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:52

You know why that one? And again, this uh goes back to him here you are as a kid, and you you catch these movies on HBO at late at night, and you're like, uh, you know, a lot of it, you know, they were in that my recollection is that they were in like a house, right? And they're on the ground and they're waiting for the for the morning to come because they're vampires and they want daylight to come, right? And I can remember they were in like the basement.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:15

And the house I grew up in was an old house, you know, old New England house. And uh we had a a dank basement, man. It wasn't like my finished basement off to my left here. Uh you know, our basement with stone walls, uh, had those low windows that were half buried in the ground, type of thing. And and that the that scene, as the sunlight starts coming through, remind me of my own basement in the house. Uh I was like, oh man, this sucks. I'm not going down there to get the laundry. Yeah. Yeah. But that was a good choice, actually.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:49

Good choice. Yeah, yeah, good choice. I think that um there's not much you can really argue about that apart from the fact that the way apart from the fact that the remakes are shit. But they made one in 04. Yeah, I mean they made TV series too, didn't they?

SPEAKER_03 1:12:02

They were all TV series. The original is a TV series, too. The same 1979 is a TV series.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:09

No, it wasn't a standalone movie when it first no no no no 1979.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:13

It was it was it was uh yes, yes. You think of the return to Salem's Lot was a movie, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:18

That's right.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:19

And then they did a 2004 miniseries too. What do you got, Dave?

SPEAKER_06 1:12:23

Well, coming in at uh number four for me, uh which um because your number three is already taken because you already named the exorcist. 2002 movie. This one scared the shit out of me as an adult, the ring.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:37

Very wow, I have the ring on my on the list. It's not like numbered, but the re they talk about the obviously the American version, the American version, which was you know, obviously um taken from the Japanese uh right show.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:50

But uh fuck man, that was scared the shit out of me. That one.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:54

It was a really good movie, and Naomi Watts is fucking really good in it. She's not a great actress, but she was really good in that.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:00

Hey, oh yeah, watch what you're saying there. What do you mean she's not a great actress?

SPEAKER_03 1:13:04

What's good about that, it's not like people think about horror that needs to be rated R. That's not, it's a PG 13 movie.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:10

It is, but if a horror movie can scare the shit out of me of as an adult, it belongs on the fucking list, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:13:15

And what's good about that movie, and what's so freaky about that movie, is part investigating it and realizing and understanding why what the ring is. And the people see this video, you watch this video, then you get 10 days, and you're gonna die.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:31

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:31

Um, how they knew that you watched the video is you know, that's the myth. That's the that's the little Juma Juan, whatever thing that they whatever the thing is. But uh the ring is actually a well getting covered up while that Samara girl got thrown down a well to die. The mother closed her up in a well, and the ring is the fucking light of the light showing around the the cover of the well before it closes up on her. That's what the ring is, and it's fucking scoop's freaky, man. It really is. The ring is a freaky movie. Listen, I give you props for that to be so fucking high on your list because we're talking. See, this is where I'm gonna we're gonna argue for me when I go to my next movies because I have to kind of think about where I want to go when it comes to a sub-genre, right?

SPEAKER_06 1:14:15

There's so many great you don't have to worry about where you go with a subgenres, you're gonna choose a movie that um evokes something within you and uh all scares the shit out of you.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:26

I gotta say number one, number one, no matter what. But all right, so what I want to say is this, and I have to do it because as from as a pure horror movie fan from the 80s, I have to say this. You're gonna get pissed at me when I say this because you're talking about the fucking ring, though the dead 19 fucking 2004, and whatever the mist, all this fucking you know, very eclectic with your fucking movies. I'm going old school, down and dirty, which started it all, which really should have started it all, because this is not this is actually a sequel that I'm gonna mention as the reason why this is on my list. And it's for many reasons. Friday the 13th part two, and the reason why I have Friday the 13th part two on it is for many reasons, all right. You watch the original Friday the 13th, you don't know who the killer is, no one knows shit about the movie. You realize it's some lady who lost her son. Her son was supposedly disabled, he drowned in the water, kids were fucking around, they were scrolling, they didn't watch him, he died. But then you realize is he really dead? Did he show up at the end with this chick that killed the lady, chopped her head off, blah blah blah? Let's think about this. The movie starts. The final girl, Alice, she's survives the first movie, she's in the second, and the funny thing is, is this poor lady who played that can that role was stalked by a stalker that try to kill her after fucking Friday the 13th, if you believe it or not. So here she is in real life, yeah. So here they are doing Friday the 13th part two. There's Alice, she survived the first movie. There she is, dead within the first five minutes. She gets a fucking ice pick to her fucking face. Right in front of the when she opens up a refrigerator and sees Mrs. Voye's head in the fucking fridge. But the reason why Friday the 13th part two is iconic is because of this. It's the first time you ever see Jason. He doesn't have his hockey mask yet because he doesn't get it until part three. So he's wearing the fucking one-piece fucking burlack sack on his head. And it is a scary movie because it's some fucking derelict guy who doesn't have he's not zombie Jason yet, right? He doesn't become zombie Jason until part six. So he's still like, you know, some guy in the fucking overalls wearing a fucking burlach sack on his head, living in some shack in the middle of the woods, killing fucking would-be counselors who want to just learn how to take care of kids. Great movie. Started the fucking franchise. The first one was good, but part two is where Friday the 13th really becomes Friday the 13th. And you can't talk horror movies without talking about Friday the 13th. Part two, excellent movie. Actually, not my favorite Friday the 13th. My favorite Friday the 13th movie is part seven. But part two is up there as well. Excellent movie. I tell people, if you've never seen Friday the 13th, don't even fucking watch the first one. Watch part two. There you go. What do you have to say, Mr.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:10

Dolphin? Well, well, I've got a lot to say about this. I've got a lot to say about this. So let's pay it. I will pay you that it started uh Friday the 30th, the original started um a great big you know, a lot of movies that came after it. But fucking hell. You've got movie after movie, which comes with a whole heap of actors who you've never fucking heard of and never seen again.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:37

What does that have to all right? So hold on a minute. So you say that like it makes a difference that because uh of actors that were never seen again. What the fuck does that mean?

SPEAKER_06 1:17:45

Well, that then speaks to how shit the fucking movie is that never got a job again.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:50

What are you talking about? Heather Lackenkamp was in Nightmare on Elm Street. That was an amazing first movie. I should have been I should even have a talk about this. What other movies did she make in her life? Wasn't like Robert England had this like fucking amazing career after Nightmare on Elm Street. It's what he played. He was Freddie Krueger. He played fucking what's his name in V. What else did he do? 10,000 maniacs?

SPEAKER_06 1:18:11

All right, go back. Okay, here are the here are the actors in Friday part two. Amy Steele.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:18

Fantastic, final girl, one of the best. Talk to me here. What else? Jesus. Come on, go.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:24

John Fury? What the fuck's he done? Well, Burston Baker, Martin Cobra. These aren't names that naturally roll off your tongue as fucking somebody you'd recognize.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:35

Besides, what's his name who played The Punisher? I'm blanking on his name in the mist. Who else was in that fucking movie? I know it was a Frank Duramont movie. I know Frank Duramont fucking directed it, right?

SPEAKER_06 1:18:50

Yes. So there's two fucking names. Right, whatever. There's two fucking names.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:56

She was dead by season two. That's how great they thought you were her acting was. Kill the bitch. Done. Out.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:03

This is like getting a fucking hand job off your sister. It's so fucking uncomfortable listening to you fucking flapping your gums. Jesus Christ. Let me get a word in edgeways, man. Go ahead. So you should be. So you got all these people who've not gone on to do anything. They've never won any awards. They've never um had a box office fucking hit. And all they've done, well, some of them all they've done is stayed in the Friday 13th franchise for the rest of their fucking acting careers.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:31

They're all dead. How can they be? Amy still survived, but she was never in another movie. What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_06 1:19:37

Alice Hardy, she was in the next one, and the one after.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:40

Yeah, but she survives the first. She gets killed the first five minutes in the second, and that's it. It wasn't until Tommy Jarvis in part four, five, and six was their freaking carryover of a character.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:50

I'll pie you that it it uh it helped launch a franchise, but that's fucking as far as it goes.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:56

All right, well, listen, I we can argue, but I'm gonna tell you right now, it deserves to be on anybody's horror list. That's it. Alright, Whitey, what do you got, babe?

SPEAKER_05 1:20:05

Not the man. You two. Uh all right, you know what else needs to be on anybody's horror list because if we don't mention it, it's you're gonna get a shit ton of emails. All right. And again, you gotta go original again because of course they made a remake of this thing too. But the hills have eyes.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:28

The original, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:32

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:33

It's like it's uh it's like deliverance. Like, you know, in the fucking uh out in out in like Utah.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:38

But it was freaky because of you know, Michael Berryman, the actor. Again, that's one name I can drop, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:48

Dude, dude, he's well, he's got like a glandula problem. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got something where he doesn't sweat. Yeah. He looks like a fucking mutant. Right? He looks like a mutant, really. He's one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet, they say. He's like one of the nicest men you'll ever meet. Yeah, yeah. He's like a really nice man. If people don't understand, hold on, if people don't know who that is, he was also in Weird Science. Yeah, he plays one of the gang, the biker guys who's like, why don't we get together and you know do lunch at the end, remember? Great. Yeah, great. Good hell's the hell's on hard.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:27

Doesn't he say something like um you know, uh, you know, if we could just keep this between us, I don't want to just I hate to lose my losing job.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:36

It's great, it's fucking great.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:38

Can we keep this between us? I'd hate to lose my teaching job.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:42

Dude, he's the hills of arises. Listen, man, for someone who says they don't know horror movies, you're bringing up some good flicks, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:49

Again, these are just films that you just see, kind of like yeah. Like I said, I can honestly sit here and say, I've never bought a movie ticket to a horror movie. Right. Uh but I've certainly you you know with HBO, cable, blah, blah, blah, you know, and or being a military and on deployment, you see a shit ton of movies. It's just always move someone's always got a movie going, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 1:22:08

So well, that's why like those movies like that are secluded like that, like where you're isolated and nowhere to go. Though that's why those movies are scary. Yeah, it's not necessarily the person coming after you, it's the fact of where you are, and not movies like that.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:24

Right. Yep. You know, so again, old classic though, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:22:30

Classic flick, and they did do a remake. The remake wasn't terrible. I mean, it wasn't terrible, it was decent, but it's not as good as the original.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:39

You have seen all these movies then, huh?

SPEAKER_03 1:22:41

I've seen a lot of horror movies, man. The only movies, the only DVDs and Blu-rays I have out on my shelf are horror movies. That's it.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:49

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:50

All my other fucking movies are boxed up. I don't have any physical media except my I don't buy any physical media except for horror. I love horror, man. It's great stuff. I'm gonna I'm we're gonna do honorable mentions. I'm gonna read it off. We don't need to talk about it, but I want to read them off. All right, so um Mr. Goldfinch, disappoint me again. What do you got?

SPEAKER_06 1:23:09

Uh I can't disappoint you because uh this next one, number two, is just stellar, and uh it's a bit of a genre crossover. 1979 Alien.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:20

Well, we talked about it in Auseum in the last on Sci-Fi.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:25

It's gonna hit the list of horror movies.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:27

I didn't add it on there because it was so big on my sci-fi list, but I agree with you 100%. What a great fucking horror movie, hands down.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:36

Mic drop, walk away.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:39

No, it's not a mic drop because you fucking I I told you all about it. You didn't even know about it until you heard me talk about it last time we had the show.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:47

What are you talking about? I saw it before you saw it. You were still in fucking nippies when it came in.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:52

Are you out of your mind, man? I've seen some crazy my my father should have been put in jail. The shit that I watched when I was a kid. I was watching like Animal House when it was released on HBO. I'm fucking like seven years old. I'm watching, you know, fucking uh Mrs. Worm getting fucking banged on some couch and watching some girl get put uh toilet paper on a bra and getting almost raped. What are you talking about? Seeing it all. Now I did see alien as a young kid though, and it freaked the shit out of me. I told you when when the alien comes out of dog heart's chest, I mean that fuck me up, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:27

And all the jump scenes where where he's in where he's in the ducks looking for it, and there's like it's behind you, it's behind you. He turns around and boom.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:36

That movie's fucking crazy, man. It's crazy. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:40

Well, you think that movie's crazy? Wait till you hear my number one when we get to it.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:42

That'll probably won't be.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:45

That'll get that'll get your horror juices flowing.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:47

Oh, is this are we on two already? Is that did we go back fast?

SPEAKER_06 1:24:50

Well, I had to go on the two because the Exorcist was my number three, and we stole three right now. Stole that from me. No, this yeah, this should be your number two now, I think.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:59

Whatever. We gotta watch. You're number three. We're just talking here. All right, so I'm gonna do my top two, and I gotta keep my number one and number one. It stays there because it's my favorite movie of all time, so it's gotta stay there.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:10

Hang on, I haven't done my number one. Do you want me to save that for later? Or do you want to put anticipation?

SPEAKER_03 1:25:16

I'm doing my number two right now.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:18

Okay, okay. You're so fucking hostile. It cruelty comes so easy to your kind, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_03 1:25:23

Why do you why do you get why are you getting so cranky for it?

SPEAKER_06 1:25:26

I'm not getting cranky fucking.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:29

Like, I just mentioned that I want to do number number two, and you thought I would just piss in your Cheerios, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:33

You're about to launch into number two and one at the same time. I'm going, hold on. Oh, I'm going number two, and then why did you fucking you're pre-ejaculating your fucking movies? Come on, dude.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:44

I go last.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:45

You guys gotta movie safe for the end. Start an international incident between the two of you.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:49

All right, here we go. So, my next movie that I gotta talk about, and you gotta talk about it because it is genre defining, and it's also um a great horror comedy. Um, definitely comedy and horror. Um Sam Raimi, Bruce Campbell, 1987. It is a it is a sequel, but it really is a rebooted original because it it kind of disregarded the original movie, which was also amazing. But we're gonna focus on the second one, which is Evil Dead 2.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:22

Silence, I got silence I've I've never seen it.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:25

So Evil Dead Dave. Don't eat look at what I'm typing. Don't even say anything. This is the movie, you know. Yes, Evil Dead, the original, but Bruce Campbell, Evil Dead 2 made Bruce Campbell, it made Sam Raimi. These did Evil Dead 2 is an iconic movie. Now, the original Evil Dead in its own right is outstanding, right? But there were some rights issues, they couldn't get the rights back to the movie. So what they said was, you know what, fuck it. We're just gonna redo the movie, the original in the first few minutes, and then we're just gonna go with this new story, which they did. And it was fucking amazing. Evil Dead 2 is the best, one of the best movies from beginning to end. Yes, they did Army of Darkness was the third one. It was supposed to be called Evil Dead 3, but the studios didn't want that because they wanted to sell more ticket sales, so they called it Army of Darkness. But Evil Dead 2 is phenomenal. Again, isolation, um, the whole Necronomicon and the Book of the Dead, and um, you know, you know, Dead by Dawn, Dead by Dawn. I'll eat you so dude, the best. Bruce Campbell's amazing. He wouldn't be Bruce Campbell, and he's actually sick right now. My prayers are with him because he's one of my favorite actors of all time. I love Bruce Campbell.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:03

Maybe I'll stay up late tonight and scare the shit out of myself watching all these movies.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:07

Well, you won't you won't get scared of watching Evil Dead because it is scary, but it's fun. Evil Dead 2. You walk you talked about a guy that has to act by himself. Fucking Bruce Campbell did half that movie. There was no one in the fucking cabin with him except himself. Um, so what a great movie. Evil Dead 2 is my number two.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:23

Dave, I can't no, I kind of argue with it. I think it's um it's uh good choice. Perfect. Good choice. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:30

All right, so no fighting. All right, so Whitey, so we're gonna do our number ones, and then I want to talk about we don't have to get too in-depth in our honorable mentions. I just want to list what I had and see what you guys think. But Whitey, what is number one for you?

SPEAKER_05 1:28:43

All right, so well, my number one was the shining, and that got taken earlier on in the show. Uh so uh what do I want to say about it?

SPEAKER_03 1:28:52

I just I just love Oh, you don't want to pick another movie and just don't talk about it on the movie?

SPEAKER_05 1:28:56

I don't pick it on the movie, but uh as far as why is the shining, my number one is uh you know, great story. Yeah again, you want to talk about the isolation that that's certainly there. And then just Jack Nicholson's fantastic in it. Now, do I find it quote scary? I don't find it scary. There's creepy parts of it and stuff like that. But it doesn't scare me. Like, you know what I mean? Um but you know, I mean, it it it's fantastic, you know, it's just great writing and everything. And and again, you know, white man's burden. Um so okay, so in place of that, let's see, from my from my you know, my runner-up list, and I kind of mentioned this one earlier. Uh I think uh another Stephen King, Christine. Uh you know, how do you how do you make an animal object um you know um scary? Well, there you go. He he he managed to do that, I guess, with Christine, right? With the with the automobile. What was that? A Ford Fairlane? What kind of car was that?

SPEAKER_03 1:29:52

Uh I think it was a Ford Fairlane, something like that. Yes, it was. Anyway, you know, it's another, you know, that's another John Carpenter movie, and um it's a great fucking fleck, man. Um, it's actually something that I want I don't I didn't talk about it, but it's definitely, you know, you know what's his name was in there that that that James Stockwell is in it. No, John Stockwell from Top Gun is in it. He's cougar. That fucking he plays oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:17

Yeah, he plays uh the cool friend of his of the nerdy Alexandria Paul.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:22

What's the interesting thing about that is she has a twin sister, identical. And she was on the set one day and they played a trick on John Carpenter, and the sister came in and was trying to do the part and was like really bad. Yeah, it was great. If you read the story about that, it's great. Yeah, Harry Dean Stanton is in that man. Come on now. What are we talking about?

SPEAKER_05 1:30:41

You know, Harry Dean is he's one of my favorite actors from back in the day, and uh you know, Repo Man's one of my all-time favorite um uh you know again, like Dave asked me earlier about well, what what what are my favorite kind of movies? Shit like Repo Man. Shit like my movie taste kind of reflects my musical taste. I'm a I've always been a punk rock alternative music sort of dude, like nothing mainstream. And so uh and uh you know, so movies like that, Repo Man, Harry Dean Stanton uh was definitely uh a character, uh an actor of mine that was a favorite of mine during during the 80s.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:17

Oh fucking, I would never have picked you two as punk rockers. Seriously, really how the hell did you get through fucking recruit school with um New York Diles fan this guy? Fucking so Johnny Rotten and all that, really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:34

I mean, I didn't run around with a fucking mohawk and nothing, you know, that kind of shit, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:38

But you didn't simply glue your hair up into a mohawk, yeah. Or have safety pins in your clothes.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:45

No, nothing no, I didn't wear the uniform, quote unquote.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:48

You know, you can't tell me if you hadn't walked in the back streets of Boston dress lot that you wouldn't have got beat up. Come on.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:54

You wouldn't, you you probably would have. That's why, like if if you wanted to look at like the Boston punk scene, was a lot of um oh shit, what they call scallycat punks, uh, you know, just regular neighborhood kids type of type of shit.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:08

Uh you get sidetracked here, man. I know, I know.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:11

We're we're going down a whole other road.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:12

You know, we're talking about music. Yeah, what do you go? So Keith Gordon is amazing in that movie, man. The way he goes with Arnie being like the geeky kid to being this like this total changes his personality, the part where Harry Dean Stanton, after the car gets destroyed, and like they make the phone call, and like the next day the car's perfect, and fucking Harry Dean Santon is investigating. He's like, How'd you do it, man? The paint is spot on, and Harry Dean Stanton knows something's wrong.

SPEAKER_08 1:32:40

The kid was cut in half, Arnold. Well, isn't that what you're supposed to do with shit? Scrape it up with a little shovel. Don't get smart with me, son. And since when is it against the law? Fix up your own car when somebody else busts it up, huh? Since never. Then you get off my back.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:06

Christine's a great flick, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:07

Yeah, it's good. Really good. Better at better Stephen King adaptation than The Mist, that's for sure. Dude, you get it nasty for. Um, okay, let's hear it, Podfather. What is the number one movie for you? Let's see how this how underwhelmed I'm gonna be.

SPEAKER_06 1:33:26

The 2018 movie. And if this movie does not scare the shit out of you as an adult, you ain't gonna fucking heartbeat, I'm telling you. Because this movie is creepy as fuck, and it stays with you for fucking weeks afterwards.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:40

What is it?

SPEAKER_06 1:33:41

2018 Hereditary.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:43

Oh, hereditary, wow, yes, yes. Wow, the pick hereditary is your number one horror movie, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:33:51

Man, that scared the hell out of me.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:52

Tony Colette, Tony Collette. Yeah, she's great in that. Um, the fucking girl's fucking right, she's gonna head out the window and fucking get it.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:00

His pick gets taken off by the bloody lamp post.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:04

You're not expecting that to happen.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:06

Well, not that, but only you know, when Tony Colette comes into the house uh later on the movie, and the the fucking dude's up in the corner of the uh up near the ceiling, you can just see it as a shadow.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:15

You go, fuck you screen at the TV. Look, turn around. Yeah, yeah. If no one's seen Hereditary, it's really fucking weird movies. I want to talk about a movie. That's why I want to talk about a few things after we're done, because we do have some time. It's we still we've we're going on just about two hours, but Hereditary is actually pretty good. I'll give you that, but that's modern. Um, and I will call that that's kind of I guess it's demonic horror, too, right? I would think what you call it.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:43

It's sort of it's there was another movie about these um two uh backpackers or something, and they're at a Scandinavian backcountry somewhere, and they come from London. No, yeah. Fucking where they come, they come across this group of people and they're doing these people are having like a uh festival and and uh then oh um midsummer, midsummer. Yeah, midsummer. It's kind of got that fucking vibe to it, you know?

SPEAKER_03 1:35:10

Yeah, midsummer's another one like that. That was like that.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:12

Um uh the Wicker Man, that's got another sort of similar sort of vibe to it.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:17

Sort of, yeah, but Midsummer's another one that's got kind of like got like it's kind of odd.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:21

Um just took it to a different level, it just took it right, it did, it really popped up the fucking scare factor.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:28

It does, but I mean I I'm not it's not about scariness, it's just about like how good it is as a movie. And my movie is genre defining, it is one of the best movies ever fucking made, in my opinion. It has not been equaled or matched by any other horror movie, it is got comedy elements to it, which would reason why it went so well. It's iconic, it's a cult movie today. I'm part of three. Came out in 1985, and it's Return of the Living Dead. And the reason why Return of the Living Dead is on my list is because it is so 1980s, the soundtrack. The zombies, the whole thing where eating brains for zombies came from Return of the Living Dead. An interesting thing, trivia-wise, for Return of the Living Dead, Daniel Bangin, who actually is the director, there was a time where Jorge Romero didn't have the rights to the living dead, right? Night of the Living Dead. And the book, Return of the Living Dead, is actually a sequel to Night of the Living Dead. But they took this book and they changed it into Return of the Living Dead, and then George Romero went and did Dawn of the Dead, and then Day of the Dead. So he can use Dead, the and Night of the He can use the word like the Dawn of the Dead, Day of the Dead, Land of the Dead, and all that other shit. Return of the Living Dead was their own franchise, and it's such a great movie. The whole punk rock scene, Whitey, we were just talking about it. James Caron is a fucking and Tom Matthews is fucking amazing in that fucking movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:40

Did you see that movie, Night of the Living Dead? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the one where the corpses start eating the people, right? Sure. What about it? Did you know that movie was based on a true case? Come on, you're shitting me, right? I ain't never been more serious in my life.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:59

It is amazing. That whole movie, if you've never seen Return of Living Dead, you gotta watch it. I have like five versions of the movie on DVD and Blu-rays. It's my favorite movie of all time. I will watch it over and over and over again. And uh I can't say anything more about it. It's the best.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:16

I've been making a list of you guys have gone on to of movies I need to sit and watch. And I hope the listeners out there are doing the same.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:23

Right. So, Dave, what do you have to say, bad, about my return of the living dead? It's my top top movie.

SPEAKER_06 1:38:28

You fucking squeeze it.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:32

No, no, no, no. You'll never convince me. You don't you don't know what you're talking about because you've probably never seen it then. There is no better zombie type movie than Return of the Living Dead.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:43

No, is that the one where there's like they're at prom and stuff like that?

SPEAKER_03 1:38:47

No, why do I feel like I've seen Return of the Living Dead is when the Freddie and Frank are in the like the United Medical Supply Room and there's a canister and they hit it and the scars comes out and goes into the cemetery. The punk rock kids are hanging out in the cemetery. When they equip Louis dance on the fucking cemetery. All right.

SPEAKER_06 1:39:08

Well, well, well, all I can say is the only redeeming factor that this movie has is that it's it's it's set at in Louisville, Kentucky, and that's where Kentucky Dave comes from.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:18

And that's listen, you got hereditary, which is sort of like very niche now because it's like a newer movie. We're talking about niche.

SPEAKER_06 1:39:26

How can it be niche, dude? It's just gonna be studied at fucking film stores for the next century.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:33

Return of the living dead is a classic, classic, classic brains eating brains, all comes from that movie. The treoxin, the gas that makes the zombies, it's a fucking classic. You don't know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_06 1:39:48

Listen, listen here, you fucking scroat. This is fucking a direct quote from Wikipedia. The film described as Mordens Punk comedy.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:59

It's the it's a horror movie, though, man. People are dying, people's heads are getting eaten.

SPEAKER_06 1:40:05

You're all gonna get so much fucking hate mail over this. I I no way, anybody I can't wait.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:10

Okay, so here we go. I just want to say this while we're here. Other movies that I didn't talk about that I wanted to talk about, found footage movies like the Blair Woods Project. If you watch it the first time, it was really scary and really cool.

SPEAKER_06 1:40:22

Yes, the fact that they try to play it off as being real, as a babsai below, that was a similar sort of um vein, similar genre.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:30

Right. And if anybody's seen the movie Cannibal Holocaust from 1980, it kind of did something similar, caused a lot of controversy in Italy because people thought it was a snuff film. Um and they kind of hid the actors for like a year. They had a do-not-go-around thing in their contract. The the director, Rogero Diodado, actually went on trial for murder. They tried to try him for murder of killing the people in this movie, and he had to get the actors to come out and break the contract to show that they weren't dead. Other movies that I didn't talk about. Obviously, the it in 2017 It, which is amazing as well. Hellraiser had on there, um, Bubba Hotep um with Bruce Campbell, which is phenomenal. One of the best movies, horror comedies ever, most underrated movies of all time. Tucker and Dale vs. Evil. Alan Tudick, your favorite buddy from Firefly is in it. Um, you should watch it. Remakes, the blob. The remake of the blob with Kevin Dillon 1988 is probably one of the best remakes ever made, horror or otherwise.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:28

I'll pie that. Yep, I'll pie that.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:31

If you've never seen the blob 1988, you gotta watch it. It's amazing. Other great remake that's better than the original, and this is sacrilegious, but I'm gonna say it. Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2003, fucking amazing movie with Jessica Beale, Arlie Ermi's in it. He's Dave is doing his jerk off motion, phenomenal. Anthology movies, horror, creep show, 1982, phenomenal. Trick and treat.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:54

It was good.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:55

Another one, which came out in 07, excellent. We talked about Sean of the Dead. We didn't, but we kind of breathed over it, which is also another great horror, horror, comedy, zombie movie, as well as Pet Cemetery, which was really fucking scary. Gage, when he comes out, he's alive and he's fucking walking around. He cuts Fred Gwyn's fucking leg, his fucking Achilles tendon underneath the fucking uh bed.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:16

Ah, I can feel that whenever I see that. Yeah. Ah man.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:20

Also, Night of the Living Dead. We didn't talk about that. And which so the big thing about that is Dwayne because Dwayne Jones is in it, and it was like the first leading African-American man that was like a leading actor at that time, which is very like in a horror movie, especially, which wasn't really ever seen. The original Night of the Living Dead started at all, but I actually like the remake in 1990 that Tom Zavini did better with Tony Todd in the lead role, which was really good. All right, I'm gonna stop talking. Those are my honorable mentions.

SPEAKER_06 1:42:48

No, can I have my honorable mentions now? Yeah, go. Have you done yours yet?

SPEAKER_05 1:42:54

Uh no, I haven't.

SPEAKER_06 1:42:56

You go ahead, buddy.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:58

All right. Mine, uh, children of the con.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:01

Oh, I know what I fucking forgot to put that on my list. That's 80 horror. Yeah, he wants to movie. He wants you to, Malachi.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:09

He wants you to, Malachi.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:13

That that's one that you you know you can look at and go, wow, that shit could happen. Those those those people those people are out there, man. You know, those people are out there. The music is freaky in that movie, man. Again, from all right, so uh I had our I'm with you there. I had Blair Witch Project as well. That one reminded me of my uh again, my cousin who uh like likes movies. We used to kind of make like um we didn't have camera, but I remember as kids we he always had a recorder and we always would make like horror quote unquote movie or horror fucking like recordings. Like you know, he lived out in the suburbs, so we'd go out in the woods and be like, come on, let's like pretend like uh like these ghosts are chasing us, yada yada, and we'll we'll we'll so when Blair Witch come out, I was like, Wow, this is like they took your idea, man. Uh anyway. Uh here's one that's um okay, is this horror or is it just a thriller? Um we talked about Rutka Hower in uh in our last sci-fi thing with um Blade Runner, but uh Rutka Howell flick called The Hitcher. Ever see that one? Yeah, yeah, yeah. C. Thomas Howell? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:25

So you never seen The Hitcher?

SPEAKER_06 1:44:27

That was a good one.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:28

C. Thomas Howell's in it, yeah. That's a great flick.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:31

He's like stock and see Thomas Howell for uh I forget the reason why, or how they cross paths or whatever. Right. At any rate, like the whole movie's. Good movie. You're right about that.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:39

Hitcher's really good too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:42

Another uh inanimate object previous to Christine was um Um i again, I'm just sitting here. I don't have it written down, but the the thought uh what was the one with the truck? Oh, Maximum Drive? The duel. The the movie's called Duel. Oh, Duel, okay. It takes place out west in the desert, and the whole thing is that their rusty oil truck chasing the guy around, Dennis Weaver. Yeah, again, you never know who the hell is driving the truck, it doesn't matter because the truck is the is the uh the antagonist.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:12

That's early 70s, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:45:17

Uh uh Psycho, of course, right? I had Psycho Twenty Black and White, sorry. Um and then uh, you know, I had it as well. Uh like you already dropped that. But you know, uh w with talking about the the Dawn of the Dead movies and stuff like that, and like a lot of these eighties a lot of these eighties um horror classics, quote unquote as as you call 'em, you know, they all kind of they're all teenage American teenagers, right? Is kind of like what they focus around. And I just wonder, like, you know, how does that translate down to uh you know, Australia, for example. Like, I mean, you know, does you know what I'm saying, man? Like, does there's the does the pop culture does it does it translate into uh into the way things are down there? Because I mean I again I I may me misremembering this well well let's take Carrie, for example. That's an old classic that wasn't mentioned. Yeah, you know, that whole scene at the end. That whole scene at the end where the prom and everything like that. So is that something that Aussie kids kids do even? Like, you know, does that you know? So uh you know, I I just just you know, sitting here with Dave and stuff, you know, talking and you know, I'm like, does that shit even translate to um you know like a European culture or to uh uh you know again, Australian culture?

SPEAKER_06 1:46:35

The same sort of movies you guys got in the eighties, we got in the eighties at the same time, or a similar sort of time. So it you know and the eighties was the time for the uh when the cinema was probably the golden age of cinema, I'd I'd suggest you we used to go to the movies and yeah, and it cost a couple of bucks, and you sit down in a Saturday afternoon or a Saturday evening and watch the show. So it does translate and it has you know uh a lot of those are sort of touchstone movies for um a lot of people sort of who would grew up during the era. So uh Europeans, I don't know so much, maybe in the UK, but uh don't know about so much elsewhere.

SPEAKER_05 1:47:11

Yeah, yeah. All right. Let's see what else. Yeah, again, that that that's my runner-ups.

SPEAKER_06 1:47:16

So Okay, my old mentions I've only got three. And uh my first one is um a gothic comedy uh back in 1973. Fearless vampire killers with Rome Pulaski and Sharon Tate was in it.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:31

That's where they met.

SPEAKER_06 1:47:32

Have you seen it, Rob?

SPEAKER_03 1:47:34

I did a long time ago.

SPEAKER_06 1:47:36

It's a funny movie. It was a funny movie.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:38

Dude, she was Sharon Tate was freaking people don't realize how pretty she was.

SPEAKER_06 1:47:42

She was drop dead gorgeous, really pretty girl. Very sad to happen to her.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:47

You know, I mean, isn't that where they did no? They were together at that time.

SPEAKER_06 1:47:52

That's together before they started the movie. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:55

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:47:56

Um, the next one, um Cabin in the Woods. This is a real sleeper of a movie. It's such a different spin on it, and it just so great.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:10

It's sort of like the final girl, are you a virgin thing at the end?

SPEAKER_06 1:48:14

Yeah, Christian Helmut Hemsworth get killed, not the first fucking two.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:20

Fucking great. Classic. It's like it's like it's it's the it's the what do you call it? All like the what's the word I'm looking for?

SPEAKER_06 1:48:28

Um it's almost like a spoofing all all the genres all the way.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:32

All those movie genres, exactly. If you look like they got the list at the beginning when that in the fucking laboratory or whatever that's doing the depending on who's gonna win or what month is gonna come out, yeah. Fucking great movie, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:48:44

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:44

Um, what's his name? Isn't Bradley what's his name? Um, what the hell's his name? The guy who was in uh Bradley Woodford. Yeah, fucking hysterical, dude. Yeah, I give you that. That's that's a good flick. That really is a good flick.

SPEAKER_06 1:48:58

And the last one, something that's been released recently that uh really caught my eye is uh interesting spin and take on it.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:04

Abigail, yeah, Abigail and they go up and they kidnap her and she's a fucking vampire.

SPEAKER_06 1:49:10

She's a fucking vampire rips all the threads out and raps up.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:13

You know who my father is? Dude, she's like, that's great. Abigail is fun though. If no one's ever seen it, yeah, these people like they're like hired to like hired by some guy to like kidnap this girl whose father's like important person, and if one's up, she's like a fucking vampire, and she starts killing them and shit.

SPEAKER_06 1:49:33

And the the the the good bit, she's like fucking what 10 12 years old, and she's wearing a ballerons dress, and yeah, you know what movie I just watched?

SPEAKER_03 1:49:43

Um, I watched it like a week ago, Weapons.

SPEAKER_06 1:49:47

Yes, there's any good. I haven't seen it yet.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:50

It is really good. Um, do I think that Amy Madigan should be up for a fucking bet Academy Award? Absolutely not, but the movie is so different. It's from different people's perspectives, right? They put the person's name up on the screen and it's now their perspective and all these different people's perspectives. It's such a fucking I don't want to spoil it for anybody. It's about like these, like these 24 kids or whatever, they all like leave their house at the same time, run out in the middle of nowhere, and they can't find them except one kid in a class and they're investigating why it's happening, and this movie shows you why it happens, and it's really fucked up. And it's like um, it's like really, you know, uh, like Josh Brolins in it, he's got a big role in it. It's it's really good. It's a good movie, weapons. I I it's like I I didn't understand it. I'm watching it, I'm like, this is a really fucking weird movie. Um, the ending is fucking insane. So I definitely it's really slow for the first half of the movie, and then it really starts to pick up. Um, I highly recommend it. Weapons. It's actually it's a horror, it is a horror movie. You're watching and like you're like, what this movie's not a horror movie, and like, holy shit, this is a horror movie.

SPEAKER_06 1:50:58

Well, in the Vine of Epic Al, but similar to it, um, there was another movie that would uh, but I couldn't remember the name of it. I think it's called Left the Best Ones In, Left Them In or something. It's uh again, it's a um uh a pre pure uh like a young kid who's a vampire, and it's it's a European movie, and I'm not familiar with it now. An old man sort of looks after her, and then the old man dies, and the vampire makes friends with the kid next door, and then that kid next door becomes the one who looks after the uh the vampire, and it goes it's gonna remember the name of it let them in or let the good ones in, or let the something like that. It's it's not real sort of you know jump horror, but um it's a bit of a slow burn, but it's really really well done.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:50

Listen, it does horror doesn't have to be jump scares, horror doesn't have to be like score and hostile and terrifier. These are like all gore movies. You want to watch a really fucking crazy sick movie? Go watch the Japanese movie audition where she torches that fucking guy. Like that movie will fucking make you think, bro. Like, go watch the human centipede. You're talking about crazy movies.

SPEAKER_06 1:52:13

Sorry, I found it. It's called Let Me In, which you think I think was the um romantic horror film. Yeah, based on the remake of the 2008 Swedish film, Let the Right One In. And you've got to watch the Swedish film because it's better than the um.

SPEAKER_03 1:52:28

All right, let me in. I'll take a look. But like I said, there's there's so many subgenres. Like you got like, you know, there's like we were talking about like did like Dead Snow, which is a freaking zombie movie. The Norwegian, the Nazis come back and they got their gold they gotta look for. The first one was like Norwegian, and then they made a sequel, Dead Snow. Um another they made a set a sequel, but they did it in English and Norwegian, so you can watch it in English too, which is fucking great. Um, there's so many great fucking movies out there, but it doesn't have to be blood and guts, it doesn't have to be jump scares for it to be pure horror. It could be nostalgic, it could be fun, like cabin in the woods, things like that.

SPEAKER_06 1:53:07

You know, you got a Hollywood with a movie idea, it's got zombies and Nazis in it. You could they're gonna run a fucking chip right there.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:14

Another great movie Zombieland, it's a fucking great movie. It's fucking one of the best zombie movies ever. And I didn't talk it on the list because I think it's more pure comedy, but like the part where like they go into Bill Murray's house and they think Bill Murray's a zombie and fucking shoots him. It's fucking hysterical, man. I mean, it's just funny. Woody Harlison, it's just great, you know. Emma Stone's in it. Um, Abigail Breslin is in it, and everything. It's a great fucking those great movies.

SPEAKER_06 1:53:42

I've got some breaking news while we're uh recording this. So um Sarah Michelle Geller's just announced it they're not gonna be doing um uh the reboot of um Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Who Louis Turned It Down.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:54

Okay, well, Buff, she's in the new dead uh Ready or Not Here We Come, the sequel to Ready or Not. If anybody's ever seen that, that's kind of quasi-horror-ish. Uh Ready or not, which is like action horror, it's really good. I don't know if it's horror, but they kind of categorize it as horror. So, all right, listen, we had a good time tonight. This was fun. It got a little crazy. We got a little pissed off at each other tonight. You know, Dave was a little um very opinionated when it came to my picks, but you guys are making controversy out of non-controversy.

SPEAKER_05 1:54:21

I love it. I love it.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:23

Well, I mean, what's gonna be fun is if you like listening to this, Dave and myself and whitey's more than happy to jump on when he wants to, is we're gonna be doing our a new podcast called uh The Misfits After Dark, and it's gonna be all about movies, and we're gonna talk about movies, specific movies, maybe an actor, an actress, and then movies. It's gonna be a lot of fun. I don't know when it's gonna drop, but we're gonna we're working on it as we speak, and it's gonna be a nice little compliment to what we're doing here because people seem to really like these little movie discussions. It's a nice little break from the fucking modeling world right now. It's starting to get fucking crazy, man. Everybody's taking things way too serious lately.

SPEAKER_05 1:55:00

So you know, I'm surprised we didn't get uh any what's his name? Guilermo del Toro? Guilhermo del Toro? Like, um he's a he's a modeler for God's sake, and a horror movie director, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:55:12

Yeah, um well he did the Payne's Labyrinth, he did Hellboy and all those movies. Good flicks. Payne's Labyrinth is a horror flick, I would say. Um, he did fucking The Strain, which is a TV show. Um, you ever read The Strain? Off the books, which is pretty scary. That's pretty fucked up as a TV show. Yeah, but he did that's good stuff for another show, Whitey. For another show. We're going about two hours here. All right, guys. So, what we're gonna do is we're gonna kind of wrap this up because it's definitely past Whitey's bedtime. He's tired. It's been a long time. We've got the hockey game, Dave. It's like midday over there on Sunday over there. So Dave wants to go relax and hang out with the family. So, on that note, we're gonna wrap up this horror movie showdown, which was a lot of fun. Whitey held his own, had some really good movies. Um, I think I did really well with my picks. Dave, on the other hand, uh, I don't know about his stuff, not so good. I think he's showing his um his lack of knowledge when it comes to the horror genre, which I knew it would be, but it's okay. So like how I was with the war guys.

SPEAKER_06 1:56:14

What such a fucking wanker, aren't you?

SPEAKER_03 1:56:16

You really are why you gotta say you're getting personal again.

SPEAKER_06 1:56:20

I'm not getting personal, I'm just saying facts. There's this difference getting personal and the starting facts. You're a wanker and the squeezer is a fact.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:27

Okay, well, that's true. Um I don't want to debate anymore. We're gonna be fighting. Poor Whitey feels uncomfortable. He's squirming in his seat. All right, guys. So we're gonna wrap this up, okay? The next showdown, we're not exactly sure which one it's gonna be, but there will be another one. We don't know what it's gonna be or when it's gonna be, but I think Dave might host that one next time. Um but uh we are gonna do our sign-off. So, Mr. Golfinch, the part father. Adios, Mr. Whitey, Mr. Andrew White.

SPEAKER_05 1:56:57

Good night, folks. Thanks for having me again.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:59

All right, guys, this is Rob Riv. This was a lot of fun, and uh, we will see you and catch you on the flip side.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:06

And so our evening of terror draws to its inevitable end. The screams have faded, the monsters have retreated to their shadow, and only a few horror films remain standing in the cold moonlight. But remember, my dear friends, in the world of horror, nothing ever truly dies. I ask myself, who was really victorious during this ultimate horror movie showdown? Was it the Pod Father, or was it White Eight? Or does Rob Riv deserve to be kept in the crypt of despair for where he once came? Tonight's defeated nightmares will lurk patiently in the darkness, waiting, plotting, yearning for their revenge in another showdown on another sleepless night. Until then, keep your doors locked, your lights low, and your imagination deliciously disturbed. For the horrors you watch tonight may soon follow you into your dreams. This is Vincent Price bidding you a most pleasant evening and a delightfully dreadful night. And if you crave more disturbing and sickening antics from this vile bunch, stick around for some hilarious outtakes, if you so dare.

SPEAKER_03 1:59:03

How dare you say that to me? I'm speaking proper English, unlike some people. This is the fucking Queen's English. The Queen's fucking dead. That's why you're speaking crap. It's a King's English, dickhead. Dude, but he's gonna be gone soon. That guy's a piece of shit, too, man. He was banging chicks with his brother, man. They were picking up escorts to at a time. They were both pulling Fritos.

SPEAKER_06 1:59:26

I'm pretty sure that if you stepped back into the UK or Comwalt country, there's a law probably somewhere where we could lock you up for saying that shit.

SPEAKER_03 1:59:36

Listen, I'm very disappointed in you. Very. What have I done there? Nothing. Your mic was a little off, but who gives you shit? That happens.

SPEAKER_06 1:59:46

No, come on, you fucking purposely did that to make yourself better. You did. You're such a fucking short ass, you're gonna stand in the shoulders of others to make yourself better. Why he said to me, he said, Goldie, what the fuck's going on? You sound like you're at the bottom of a well buddy um gargling a mouthful of marbles.

SPEAKER_03 2:00:05

I didn't say anything disparaging about you about you, and you gotta go and say like something very insulting.

SPEAKER_06 2:00:11

What's insulting? I'm I I talk in facts. There's no insults here. I'm gonna go have a quick piss and get another cup of coffee.

SPEAKER_03 2:00:18

What are you talking about, man? You gotta be prepared.

SPEAKER_06 2:00:22

Well, that's why I'm gonna go get coffee and have a piss now.

SPEAKER_03 2:00:24

Fucking, you know what, man? The guys were right about you. I should have listened. I never they were like, ah, you know, Dave is this, and I sit there and I defend you like I know what I'm talking about. And I look like the asshole. Listen, man, that's what happens when you get to that certain age where you have the prostate's not working the best, right? You fucking, you know.

SPEAKER_06 2:00:44

My prostate's fine. I've just had three cups of coffee already this morning waiting for you guys because I'd listen, man.

SPEAKER_03 2:00:52

Listen, you gotta you you need to you're like you guys are 200 and how many episodes? 235?

SPEAKER_06 2:00:59

233, thank you very much.

SPEAKER_03 2:01:01

233 episodes, dude. You're sort of like it's like at what point did fucking Fonzi jump over the shark?

SPEAKER_06 2:01:08

That's a good point. I don't know. I will have to um I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_03 2:01:11

I think fucking Fonzi's jumped over like five sharks by now. Wow, we got like a thousand downloads in like fucking 24 hours, man.

SPEAKER_06 2:01:22

That's wow, that's huge.

SPEAKER_03 2:01:24

That's that's not bad for a fucking offshoot little piddly shit thing. Not to mention they knew you on it, Dave. I thought that you know, people don't, you know, you you don't you don't have a lot of friends in the hobby right now. You've you've you've fucking burnt down a lot of bridges, you know. I gotta try to be done nothing. I've got nothing. Have you noticed how we've becoming very good friends over the last few months? You've my you're my you're my you're my project. Someone said to me, Can you help him down? You know, he's been having a hard time. Can you be friends with him a little bit? Remember when you were a kid and there's the one kid that no one wanted to play with? Like, can you go play with him? You're like, please, I don't want to play with him, just do it for your mother. Go play with him and just make him feel good about himself. That's you, Dave. You're that little kid.

SPEAKER_06 2:02:06

I was the I was a little kid that lived at the bottom of the hill.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:10

You were the little kid that was fucking picking his nose and scratching his ass, and then like they didn't no one wanted to touch him. And you go over to his house and he's eating fucking glue. He's the kid that ate the glue.

SPEAKER_06 2:02:22

Yeah, the mum used to dress me in shorts, and um yeah, anyway.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:26

You were wearing the plaid shorts, pissing yourself. You always had that pissed spot every time you left the toilet. Never did that second shake.

SPEAKER_06 2:02:38

What's the rules? What's the rules for tonight, Dickade? Come on.