Episode 49: When Modeling Isn't Enough

Episode 49: When Modeling Isn’t Enough

What happens when building models isn’t the only thing that keeps your mind busy? In Episode 49, the Modeling Insanity crew takes a fun detour from the workbench to discuss what truly makes something a hobby. From relaxing pastimes to unexpected obsessions, the guys explore the activities that help them unwind, recharge, and maintain a healthy balance outside of scale modeling.

Along the way, they share personal stories, plenty of laughs, and reveal some of the surprising hobbies that keep life interesting when the glue dries and the paint cures. Whether you’re a modeler with a side passion or just looking for a good laugh, this episode proves that sometimes modeling isn’t enough.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_06 0:00

So this is what I get dragged back here for. An episode about having other hobbies? Like having one isn't enough? I could have been resting in peace. But no. Somebody says, Don, we need you to introduce those degenerates over at the Modeling Insanity podcast again. I thought I was squared up with these guys. Apparently not. First, we have Rob Riv. This guy doesn't have hobbies. He has investigations. He's in the basement at two in the morning chasing ghosts with enough equipment to invade a small country. Then when the ghosts don't show, he's hunting friggin' crickets. There is nothing more enjoyable than watching Rob Riv lose his shit trying to hack up a cricket he can't reach. Sorry, Riv! I think I speak for everyone when I say we are all rooting for that damn cricket. Justin Ryan, nice guy, grows bonsai trees. Tiny little trees. The guy spends six months trimming one branch. I've seen people finish college faster than Justin finishes pruning a shrub. He's got tweezers, miniature scissors, special fertilizer, little watering cans. These damn trees get better health care than most people I know. It's the only hobby where a guy spends years making a tree look like it forgot to grow. Then there's Rob Adams. Oh no, it's just gardening. Sure it is. When your tomato plants start asking for reggae music, we're gonna have questions. Every time somebody says they're just growing plants, everybody suddenly gets real interested. This guy knows more about the life cycle of a marijuana plant better than he knows his own family tree. You ask Rob what day it is, he responds with, hell, I don't know. You ask him what week the pot plants are in. Oh, we are in week six of flowering. Frankie Donati. This guy can't walk into a building without inspecting it. He's at weddings checking exit signs. He's at restaurants reading inspection stickers before he reads the menu. The smoke detector chirps once. Frank's already got three clipboards and a flashback. Relax, kid. You're eating spaghetti, not investigating a chemical. Frank already checked the exit signs, counted the extinguishers, and he somehow knows the occupancy limit. Christ, nobody even asked him. And then we got Steve Santucci. This guy collects everything: cards, coins, artifacts, probably bottle caps. If it sat still for 50 years, Steve wants it in a display case. One day he's sorting baseball cards with white gloves. The next he's out in the field with a metal detector, hoping to find a button from 1781. Next thing you know, he's dressed like it's 1776, marching across a field yelling battle commands. Steve, the revolution's over. The British already went home. Take the outfit off. And all of you build little plastic tanks, little cars, little airplanes. You spend 300 hours painting something smaller than a sandwich. Then somebody says, nice model. You answer, actually, the antenna should have been 0.3 millimeters longer. You people sure as hell need some fresh air. Because apparently building tiny models wasn't obsessive enough. You all had to unlock bonus hobbies too. Now quit listening to me. You've got ghosts to chase, trees to trim, fire extinguishers to inspect, coins to catalog, pot plants to garden, and somewhere in the middle of all that, maybe finish a damn model. So on that note, let's get started with episode 49 when modeling isn't enough.

SPEAKER_09 5:03

Yo yo and Mr. Steve Santucci. Hello. All right, we got the full crew here tonight. Rob Adams is kind of an MIA making excuses why he can't be on. I will give full disclosure, he has partaked in some things today. A little bit of a rough day. There's always an excuse. He's like halfway impaired as we start this. We don't know how he's gonna be like an hour from now, but right now he's sort of coherent, right, Rob? You feel okay? Yeah, I'm good. I'm good. Yeah, he's he's looking good, nice and loose. Yeah, he looks good. His eyes are very squinty right now. He looks real.

SPEAKER_07 5:36

You know what? I'm gonna speak my mind when it comes up. So nah, we're gonna talk.

SPEAKER_09 5:40

We're gonna have a good time tonight. This is our episode 49. Next episode will be our episode 50, which is a pretty big milestone for us. If we would be releasing two shows a month like everybody else does, we'd be at episode 100. We'll like a little more than that because we don't number them all the same, but I kind of like the way we do the shows. We don't need to release a show every two weeks. No one wants to hear Frankie Donati or Steve Santucci or Justin or Rob talk every two weeks. Me, maybe, but maybe you can you guys definitely not.

SPEAKER_07 6:07

They hear you way more than enough already.

SPEAKER_02 6:09

I do the Gmail, nobody wants to hear you every two weeks, trust me.

SPEAKER_09 6:12

No, no, it's true.

SPEAKER_07 6:13

Rob gets by by going on other podcasts that are released every two weeks. So that's true. He's on everything week, no matter when their release dates are. So there you go. Nah, you can't get on those shows.

SPEAKER_09 6:25

I haven't been asked to get on the Model Car Mania show, which has had their tenth show release, which was pretty good. I have not been asked to be a guest on there.

SPEAKER_07 6:32

Because you don't build cars ever.

SPEAKER_09 6:34

I don't build cars. I don't know.

SPEAKER_11 6:35

Isn't that thing, that all do Belinda thing? That's a car. Part of a car.

SPEAKER_07 6:40

It is a car, it's another car. Hold on. I build cars. Why haven't I been on the podcast yet, Justin? I don't know. Justin.

SPEAKER_12 6:48

I'm just a voice, dude.

SPEAKER_07 6:51

Invite me on your show.

SPEAKER_12 6:52

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_09 6:54

Well, listen, we're we're coming off of really interesting Friday live cast that we had at Russ Clark, which was a lot of fun. Um, we had some interesting discussions. The the ghost in my basement was not only doing stuff while we were recording, so if anybody watches that show, you'll see me throw my headset off and look behind me. And all night long, shit was going on in my basement while I was down here. It was kind of freaky a little bit. Yeah. Little sounds here and there. Things were going on in the basement the other night. Something was going on. Um, tension in the air. I think the the spirits know that shit's going on, so they're kind of showing and presenting themselves a little bit.

SPEAKER_07 7:30

They're probably like there's just way too much plastic in your basement, man.

SPEAKER_09 7:33

Yeah, well, I gotta clean the space. They're kept away by all the brass in his closet.

SPEAKER_07 7:37

Yeah, it's it's off-gassing, it needs paint to fucking seal it all in.

SPEAKER_09 7:41

Before we get into the big spiels today and all the little conversations about what we want to talk about, I did go to Target and I bought a bunch of new bins and containers because I'm gonna be straightening up my basement, especially with all the modeling stuff, because things are getting a little too out of hand here. I usually try to straighten up every you know six months or whatever, inventory, things like that, but it's been getting a little crazy. I'm gonna have a lot more free time for a while. Um, I am gonna be doing some things, but I don't know if anybody knows that are listening, but I am planning on retiring from my career job on June 30th.

SPEAKER_07 8:14

Congratulations, man.

SPEAKER_09 8:15

I am retiring after 30 years of you know working for where I work, and I'm have a lot of great memories, but the last few years have not been as enjoyable there. So I am young, I'm only 52, so I'm not at retirement age, but I do have been working there for 30 years, and it is time to move on. I've always been a little bit of I'm gonna say I've I've always been a little afraid to take that step. Like I'm I'm a I'm not someone who likes change, and I've kind of avoided other opportunities that have been, you know, presented to me over the years and didn't take them for whatever reason. Because I'm just sort of like, you know, I don't want to stir the pot. I like routine, that's me. But now it's time to really take that chance. So I June 30th is my last day. So um I am gonna be using the system a little bit. I'm gonna be using a lot of PTO and some family leave for my son. But the last day I'm actually gonna be working there is June 30th. I will be doing consultant work that I do more of it. So I'll be working from home, but I can also do a lot more in the hobby, which is gonna give me a lot more uh enjoyment, I think, because I need to get the hell out of there. So if anybody's listening and they're in a job that they need to get out of, they've been there for a long time, don't be afraid to take a you know a chance. I'm glad I'm doing it right now. So I'm really looking forward to this Tuesday, which is June 30th. So there's a lot going on.

SPEAKER_12 9:29

Find that funny, Rob. You're leaving a job after 30 years, and you're like, Don't be afraid to take that step. I left a freaking marriage after 27 years, and I'm like, Don't be afraid to take that step.

SPEAKER_09 9:41

We're the same, bro.

SPEAKER_07 9:43

No, it's not the same.

SPEAKER_09 9:45

Leaving a job, and listen, I'm not gonna say that there's not been some issues, but leaving a job or leaving a marriage, I guess two different things, maybe similar to the city.

SPEAKER_12 9:54

It was all that was all silliness.

SPEAKER_09 9:56

No, but listen, man, you took a big step, Justin. I mean, listen, I mean, a lot of people maybe not don't know what you've gone through over the last right, you know, year or so. And yeah, it's been about a year, a little over a year, you know, and I and and listen, I love you, man. We all love you, and you we've seen you go through a lot of different stages of emotion. Absolutely. I do have, you know, everybody knows that my degrees are in psychology, so I'm not gonna put my therapist hat on because that's not what I am. I'm not a therapist, but uh I do I do know that you were you were going through a lot there, man, and you made a big step. That's a big step to take.

SPEAKER_12 10:32

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_09 10:33

So, and I and I'm proud of you for taking that step. That's you definitely did said you said, Hey, fuck it. I'm taking I'm doing what's best for me. And uh, you know, listen, I don't want to speak too loud. Deb can hear me from a distance, and Deb will come down with a bat. I don't want to get hit tonight.

SPEAKER_12 10:48

And by the way, it was confirmed for me Friday that it was the absolute right decision. Just to go without having to go into it.

SPEAKER_09 10:56

Well, full disclosure, before we did go on air, I did tell Justin, you know, just like a lot of weird things have been going on with people that have like had a lot of information about like you know, the UFOs and stuff and things like that. I said to Justin, Justin, you're not suicidal, are you? Because I want you to tell us right now, and just in case we find you like something happened to you, we want to just make sure that we know that someone might have whacked you out.

SPEAKER_12 11:17

I'm not suicidal, I'm not into auto-erotic association, nothing of the sort.

SPEAKER_07 11:22

He has no intention to harm himself.

SPEAKER_09 11:24

You'd be hard pressed to find a closet bar to hold you up, though.

SPEAKER_12 11:28

Justin, you're not wrong, you're not wrong. We have to have that shit beefed up.

SPEAKER_09 11:32

Yeah, we gotta find like some eye beam in the ceiling to put you hang you around. What happened to the building? I just tried to order erotica to asphyxiate himself. He just took the telephone. Holy shit, models. I'm only kidding.

SPEAKER_11 11:47

Yes, me too.

SPEAKER_09 11:48

All right, so let's just talk business a little bit. So last episode was a lot of fun, too. We talked about a bunch of stuff, had that little riv rant about the bagel shop, which I got a lot of messages from. People are like, holy shit. I guess it happens more often than not, where like people start like, you know, getting into your personal space in these public places. It's like, dude, just back up a little bit, man. Please, you know, like you don't want Steve Santucci like just rubbing up against you in some you know, coffee shop.

SPEAKER_07 12:13

Steve Santucci if you rubbed up against me, it'd be okay. I'd be fine.

SPEAKER_09 12:17

Well, Steve is getting ready. Well, we'll get into Steve because Steve is like a full-fledged Americana right now with the Rev War and the 20, 250th anniversary here in the United States. If you're listening abroad, our 250th anniversary from when we rebelled against the British is uh gonna happen um very soon in like a few days, right? This weekend coming. Right? Next weekend, Saturday. But I do want to just do go around the horn a little bit because everybody says I talk too much. Frankie Donati has been very moody lately, very moody. He's a moody Frankie right now. I'm looking at him right now, and he has a scowl on his face. He's flipping me off as we speak, full disclosure.

SPEAKER_10 12:57

No, no, he was just telling you, you're number one. That's right, number one.

SPEAKER_09 13:01

So, Frankie, you know, before we get into our main topic, and we're gonna talk about how we perceive this hobby and so on and so forth, but for you in particular, what do you got going on now going into the summer for Frankie Donati? I know you're a very respectable man. You get a lot of royal treatment up there in that part of Canada. You know, you're very well respected at the job in the community. Like you're the old man on the block, right? The kids come, they get the paper off the driveway for you, they bring it to the house.

SPEAKER_02 13:28

My tomatoes for me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 13:30

Right. They do all that stuff. So what do you have planned? What is your what are you doing? I know you can hang out with Santutsi a lot too. I'm gonna be around. I'm gonna be around too now. So you might be able to hang out with me a little bit. So what do you got going on for the summer?

SPEAKER_02 13:42

That was the whole point of the couple. Actually, tomorrow, tomorrow is uh and Tooch can relate to this. Tomorrow is my my summer vacation from my college job. So I got two months off. But of course, first day of vacation, and I'm out of the house at five o'clock tomorrow morning because the other job has got work for me, so I gotta head out and figure out what burnt a garage down. So the summer for me is a little bit of work and a little bit of play. Probably the biggest thing is uh first week of August, IPMS National or uh for us more the Donkey Punch Villa reunion. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we uh we've got I think there's about 17 of us now in the house. Looking forward to that. That's August 3rd to the ninth. So if you're you're at IPMS Nationals this summer, uh we will not be broadcasting, nor will we re-recording, because I'm the only member of the podcast that's there.

SPEAKER_09 14:35

I will be taking a lot of things. We'll be taking cable.

SPEAKER_02 14:40

No, tooch can't go. It's out of bounds. And so, but I'll be there. I'll be wearing our t-shirts, so come say hi. Uh any messages for Riv, like, hey, tell that fucker to go fuck himself.

SPEAKER_09 14:51

Oh, I'm sure there'll be many people to tell you to go fuck myself, but it's okay.

SPEAKER_02 14:54

I'll take it. We're uh we're all huggers, so come by, get a hug, they're free. Justin. Oh, Justin is a hugger, too. I'm sorry. Yeah, that's a good hugger. A little bit of work, get ready for for my last year at the college. It's gonna be a little bit sad. Other than that, um I'm I'm looking forward to it. It's gonna be a good summer.

SPEAKER_09 15:16

Frank, listen to me. I know you're going to IPMS Nationals, and I want you to have a good time. And I'm you know what? I would have given you some stuff if Toots was going, because I would have had to see Toots to give him the tablecloth and the microphones that I have of his. Because saying Toochie goes, it's like it's like a domino effect now. Tooch isn't going, so now you can't record, and now you also can't get any kits that I have for you, which aren't gonna be given now because I'm not gonna see you. So it's all his fault.

SPEAKER_02 15:44

It's like next year, man.

SPEAKER_09 15:45

It'll be like mine. You pay for the shipping. Rob Adams, this guy's the cheapest guy in the world. Fucking guys, trying to figure out how to get something to this guy. He's like he's nickel and diamond, like a couple of bucks. It's like, dude, you live in Canada. Like, your currency is worth like it's like 10 cents to the dollar right now in the U.S.

SPEAKER_07 16:03

I know that's the fucking problem. Why do you think I gotta be the way I am?

SPEAKER_09 16:07

Listen, Rob, I gotta get my point out to Frank, all right. So, Frank, I know you're representing the insanity there, which I appreciate. Just make sure you're not wearing shorts like you're wearing right now, Frank, because your legs are really fucked up, and you're gonna really, really embarrass me and everybody else if you wear shorts there. So don't. You got these skinny legs that have no hair on them. It's really weird for a guy that's built like you.

SPEAKER_02 16:30

But I got my pink flamingo shorts on for you, too, but you got the flamingo shorts on.

SPEAKER_09 16:35

But I know that they're doing other that you told me, and I think it is, I think I saw the agenda. Is there really gonna be a podcast round table there?

SPEAKER_07 16:43

There is.

SPEAKER_09 16:44

I don't know, Frank.

SPEAKER_02 16:46

Can you handle the questions? Yeah, I did it at Madison, I can do it here.

SPEAKER_09 16:52

Yeah, all right, Frank. I want a full status report after you do that, actually. I want to make sure that you don't say anything incriminating and you also, you know, you know, actually, you know what I have faith in you. If it was Santucci, I'd be a little worried. Or Rob Adams, forget about it. But you I'm I feel comfortable with you being there.

SPEAKER_07 17:09

Dude, you know what? Everybody would be giving me a hug by the end of it because they're free. Yeah, they're free.

SPEAKER_09 17:14

Also, about the Donkey Punch Villa, the house that you guys are staying in the Airbnb.

SPEAKER_07 17:18

Which I also came up with a name with, so sorry. Right, whatever, right?

SPEAKER_09 17:22

Whatever. Yeah, you you should you get credit for that, Rob. The question is is man, wow, there's a lot of gas and body order gonna be in that house.

SPEAKER_07 17:29

17 guys, and there's a lot of people.

SPEAKER_09 17:31

There is a lot of people, man. You had room for 30. Who's gonna be there? So let me just see. Hold on, let me see. Oh, um, let me just figure this out here. You're gonna have Jeff Hearn. Yep. Is Logan going? He's staying in there, yeah. Logan's going. Adam Jackson? Yep. Who else is going? I said sorry, I can't think of anybody else. Brad and Dave Morris. Oh my god, Brad Belsheim is gonna be staying in that docky punch. Like Dr. Dave is okay, but Brad, you definitely gotta sleep with one eye open. That guy's a serial killer, man. He's like Ted Bundy, he'll kill you in your sleep when you're in bed. So it's like a sorati house. Under control.

SPEAKER_07 18:06

You don't even know what happened.

SPEAKER_02 18:07

Trust me. Under control. We have restraints. We're good. Uh Monzel will be there.

SPEAKER_09 18:13

Steve Monzel. Wow, okay. Listen, you know, you know, Steve is a great guy.

SPEAKER_02 18:18

Steve's a great guy. Not the whole week, but Scott Watico and Austin Friels are now staying for a couple of a couple of nights with us.

SPEAKER_09 18:25

Austin's a great guy, man. That guy's a fucking rip. Funny guy, man. He's a he's a good, he's a fun guy to be around. He really he's great energy, man. Woof, is he good energy?

SPEAKER_02 18:36

It doesn't cost a lot of money, but you're gonna have to leave your dignity at the door.

SPEAKER_09 18:40

So yeah, it's okay. But you're gonna listen, you're gonna have a good time. Well, I hope you have a good time. And you're gonna have a lot of time to model because you got a lot of stuff. I see all those kits behind you. Justin Ryan is poor guy. Justin, I love you, man. This poor guy. You have less time for the hobby now, now that you live on your own than you did when you lived in a house with your family.

SPEAKER_12 19:01

Less time. It's I'm not trying to escape anything. So I can actually like when I sit, I I'll I'll get home from work, I cook dinner, I'll put the TV on. Next thing I know, I'm I'm waking up. Obviously, the house didn't burn down. No, I'd already eaten. Watching TV, I fall asleep. Next thing I know, it's bedtime. You know, so it's one of those things where I don't want to sit at the bench because then I'll get started something, and next thing you know, I gotta stop it because it's fucking bedtime.

SPEAKER_09 19:29

You started this modeling insanity, get back in shape. Bodybuild, build whatever. And I'm gonna tell you right now, a lot of people are doing it, a lot of guys. I mean, I don't know how many people are gonna beat for the long haul. I see things through the end. I'm down like 16 pounds already.

SPEAKER_12 19:44

Yeah, yeah. I got on the scale and I'm I'm 20 down.

SPEAKER_09 19:47

I feel really good. I've been going for like huge walks. I was going for a walk this morning. I go, I was I work on Sundays and I'm just winding down because Tuesday's my last day. I'm fucking walking. I don't know if anybody I'm I'm in Queens and I have a nice five-mile walk fucking mapped out. I'm about two and a half miles into the walk, which is like the furthest point of where I am from my office. Now it's turn around, go back. I had to take the biggest dump I ever had. I I never had this never happened to me before. I'm walking and I'm like, oh my god, I gotta go to the bathroom. It's seven o'clock in the morning. Do I find like a fucking wooded area and just squat and use a sock, or do I just fucking hightail it back to the office? I got back to the office, and I'm gonna tell you right now, I was turtling the last like half a mile back to my office. And your body, and your body knows that you're gonna be getting to the toilet very soon, so it gets prepared, gets ready, and it's like, dude, I'm not back yet, man.

SPEAKER_07 20:44

Have you ever gone to one of those stores where there are like no public washrooms at all, right? And you're like, you go in there and you're like, fuck, man, like I just I really need to use your toilet. And they're like, nope, fuck you. Then I'm gonna shit on your lawn.

SPEAKER_09 20:57

Listen, everybody knows my thing. I I'm lucky I take go to the bathroom at my job. I don't like using any toilets but my own house toilet, right? That's just me. So I was literally like doing like the fast-paced walk, you know, like when the people do like the Olympic style walking. My office is right next to like this church over in Queens. And has I'm sorry, Justin, I was asking how you were doing, but this is where you start right now. So I'm fucking doing like the fast-paced walk past these people setting up like this. They do this little mini flea market in front of the church, right on like one of the main roads, Brookville Boulevard, like in the southern part of Queens. And people I'm walking past them like with my chugging, trying to get like past these people, like crop dusting as I'm walking past these people because I gotta get to the bathroom. But I finally made it though. What's wrong with this guy? But I got back to the bathroom, yeah. But anyway, though, Justin Man, I'm uh I'm glad you started this, and you're fucking doing a great job. I can see it. You look great, man. I can tell you're losing weight, your face looks great. Yeah, definitely look. Good man, you're on the path, man. You're gonna feel good about yourself. I see it, man. Fuck yeah. I gotta pick up some strippers. Mean you. We're gonna hit the strip bar. You're single. I don't want to talk too loud. I want Debbie to hear me.

SPEAKER_12 22:12

Just grab some uh some planet fitness hobdies.

SPEAKER_09 22:15

It's basically the same thing. I do the quarter scale, right? So I we I do another podcast with you know Stan and Luke, but we have a show in the can that I have to release. Actually, Stan messes me and it's like, When are you getting it out? I'm like, I'm gonna get it out. You, on the other hand, are on another podcast, the Modocar Mania Podcast. That means you have to really know what's going on, man. I just feel like now you need to start building and being involved a little bit because you need to have content for these shows. Absolutely. You can't just be Steve Santucci comes on and just like you know talks about revolutionary war stuff. You gotta be able to be able to participate, right, Tooch? Why are you looking at me like that? I'm joking. I'm moving on to you, my friend Steve Santucci.

SPEAKER_02 22:54

He's he's he's buying baseball cards online right now. So, Mr.

SPEAKER_09 22:58

Santucci, what do you got going on for the summer? You got I know it's busy right now with the rebel war. You told me that May and June were gonna be really busy with all your reenactment stuff, but what's this summer looking for you now with the all the stuff that you do? What's going on?

SPEAKER_10 23:11

Uh well, I'm hoping by July 4th, well, July 4th, the crescendo for what's been going on the last few weeks. I mean, I filmed a Discovery TV show segment with uh in Philadelphia on the Delaware with a famous co-host whose famous late father was from England.

SPEAKER_08 23:30

Who's this?

SPEAKER_10 23:31

I can't say anything. Oh, Jack Osborne.

SPEAKER_08 23:32

Oh, wow, okay.

SPEAKER_10 23:34

Oh, so anyway, yeah, Jack Osborne and one of the other co-hosts were all rowing while another one was bailing out the boat. And uh every time he was he re he did his line, he'd stop rowing, and his oar would hit my oar, even though we were like two seats away. It was interesting, it was fun. I can't wait to see the show air sometime uh after January of 2027. I think there's gonna be a lot of funny. Hopefully, they keep a lot of the funny humor they were saying during the filming uh for the show. But uh we did that a couple weeks ago.

SPEAKER_07 24:04

Is it gonna look all misty like it was first thing in the morning and shit?

SPEAKER_10 24:08

No, no, it was still it was like two o'clock. Yeah, it was like three o'clock in the afternoon. Hopefully, it was right by the airport, so hopefully you won't hear the function. I was just going for drama, that's all. You know, yeah. Yeah, you know, I did the Battle of Mammoth. I did a Friday and Sunday, but most Fridays and Saturdays for June. I was doing archaeological work on a Rev War-related site. Uh, I've been doing talk speaking engagements, I've been going to special events, special presentations, adding color to it. Who knows when this will the show will pop, but in twenty in 48 hours from this recording, I will be in New York City at 10 in the morning doing a film shoot for a regional documentary. So I can't wait. I think, yeah, I think I'm doing something for the state on July 2nd uh at Rutgers University with uh I think one of the Jonas brothers is gonna be there. Is it because of your hair that you're getting all these gigs or what? Yeah, maybe this guy. After 26 years, I've been doing Rev War reenacting for 26 years. This was the kind of stuff we went through during the 225ths and the guys who are still around for the two for the bicentennial, but this time it's been a little more crazier for those of us. Look at Tooch, man.

SPEAKER_09 25:14

Tooch is like a celebrity now in the fucking reenactment. Look at this guy, he's sought after.

SPEAKER_07 25:21

Yeah, everybody wants the Tooch on their show. There you go.

SPEAKER_10 25:25

Uh not on any not on the podcast. He knows how to work the boat.

SPEAKER_09 25:29

Well, listen, man, I love you, dude. I love you. You are a god among men when it comes to Rev War, but like when it comes to the hobby, you know, you're Steve Santucci. You know, we know your limitations. Don't don't get too crazy.

SPEAKER_10 25:41

Yeah, my limitations being around you. I'm only kidding.

SPEAKER_09 25:47

I'm joking with you, man. I'm breaking your balls a little bit, man. You know what?

SPEAKER_10 25:51

I'm gonna have to have somebody 3D print a uh a doll of Rob and get a voice in there that says, I'm breaking your balls. I'm just kidding. With a little cricket on his foot. There's got to be a little cricket, it'll be a six.

SPEAKER_07 26:05

Oof my ass. You can choose.

SPEAKER_10 26:08

Hey Jeff Hern if Jeff Hearns listening, get on that. Yeah, Jeff Hearn.

SPEAKER_07 26:13

We need a 35th scale riv, which will be like a 48th scale regular person.

SPEAKER_09 26:18

Uh and uh take the shots, you can take them, take the shots. All right, all right, Mr. Adams. Uh-huh. We're gonna be talking about like what our hobbies, like the hobby means to us, and so on and so forth in a little bit. But we know you have been partaking in a lot of other hobbies or a lot of other things. You usually spend your summers smoking a lot of meat as long along with the gange, but you are now a farmer, you're farmer Rob. I mean, you walk around in your overalls and your straw hat, and you have all your whatever what are you growing right now? Tomatoes, tomatoes, but what else? What else are you growing?

SPEAKER_07 26:52

Uh, some flowers, a couple trees, and a lot of weed.

SPEAKER_09 26:56

And a lot of weed. This guy's been this guy every night, he like we're in the we're in the room, and there's Rob Adams. The camera's like up at the top of his greenhouse, and he's making these whatever doing this.

SPEAKER_07 27:07

You get the so instead of the soffit when it's nice outside, you get the inside of my grow tent. It's hard to get because I just set my phone on top of the lights and talk to you, right?

SPEAKER_09 27:17

But yeah, well, I mean, what do you got planned for this summer? Um I mean, I would like to know what you got planned hobby-wise, to be honest.

SPEAKER_07 27:23

You know what? Listen, listen, you'll be proud of me. So remember the last big project that I was working on was the F-35, right? Yes, remember? Okay, I see it behind you. So yeah, it's right there. Yeah, it's drying because I finally I went through and I spent like fucking eight hours fixing all the decals because they silvered a lot, and then I just finally laid the I thought we were gonna try to get you fur bulk decals. It was too late, they were already all on.

SPEAKER_09 27:50

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_07 27:51

It's either build another kit or figure this out, right? So that's what I did, and then I went through all that today and then sprayed my flat coat on it, and fucking they're perfect.

SPEAKER_09 28:01

They came out good. Who got you that kit?

SPEAKER_07 28:04

Yeah, that was that was you. Yeah, thank you. And it is a fantastic kit, you know. I didn't want to let it down. Fuck, it's a lot of work, but it's a lot of work, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 28:14

I mean, Jamie Adamson just fucking he killed his, didn't he? Screw up his kit.

unknown 28:18

What?

SPEAKER_07 28:19

Yeah, didn't Jamie screw up his kit, finished it yet. He hasn't Jamie.

SPEAKER_09 28:23

If you're listening, how do you screw up a Tamiya brand new aircraft kit? Yeah, it's like idiot proof, no offense.

SPEAKER_07 28:29

Well, if he if it was decals, then that might have been no, it was a build issue.

SPEAKER_09 28:34

I don't even think he got the decals.

SPEAKER_07 28:35

A build issue, yeah. Yeah, no, there shouldn't have been none.

SPEAKER_09 28:38

He did something wrong. Hey, I I I wish we one day we gotta ask him when he's gonna get it.

SPEAKER_07 28:41

The kid barely has any glue holding it together right now. I could literally almost take it apart.

SPEAKER_09 28:45

I'm not saying I didn't glue it, I did glue it, but you don't no, but it is a cool kit though, and I'm glad you I'm glad you're finishing it up, man. And listen, it's the summertime, you got a lot going on with the job.

SPEAKER_07 28:54

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 28:55

And you just had monsoons over there, so who knows what's gonna happen with the restoration in your area.

SPEAKER_07 28:59

I haven't seen the I see the sun for like a third of a day every other day. The rest of the time is rain. Oh wow, I'm fucking tired of it, man. Seriously.

SPEAKER_02 29:09

Well, the the prediction is for you this this year is very hot, whereas for me it's supposed to be a bit cooler, right? So it's gonna get it's gonna get hot out there, Robbie. I'm looking for the heat, man.

SPEAKER_07 29:22

That's what I need to grow my shit. It's cold.

SPEAKER_02 29:24

School's open, brother. Come by anytime.

SPEAKER_07 29:26

Yeah, all right. I'll I'll swing on by four-hour flight. Come pick me up in Toronto, you know.

SPEAKER_02 29:31

You're fucking right.

SPEAKER_09 29:32

Well, the summer for me, man. I'm definitely obviously gonna try to get a good amount of building done, but I'm definitely taking a full month or more off before I really get into the midst of my consultant work. So I'm doing that from home, but I'm gonna try to clean up and reorganize my basement. I gotta get my garage and clean that shit out. I gotta get my grandmother, is 105, almost 106 years old. I've had her stuff in my garage, furniture and stuff from her house for like the last seven years. I gotta get it the hell out of there. So my grandmother, God bless, is still alive, but I gotta get that stuff, all her stuff out of my garage and into a dumpster and stuff. You know, my grandma's like, Oh, are you gonna donate it?

SPEAKER_07 30:12

Like, is it good shit?

SPEAKER_09 30:13

No, listen, my grandmother's furniture is like it's furniture from like from the 50s, man.

SPEAKER_07 30:18

Yeah, I know, but that shit could be worth money. Yeah, but it's old, man.

SPEAKER_09 30:21

It's uh it's I have no client for that shit. It's gotta go. Your grandma's like, I'll give it away. I'm like, grandma, no one wants to.

SPEAKER_07 30:28

That's what makes shit rare is people like you. You know what I mean? I don't know, so just throw it away.

SPEAKER_09 30:33

But there's a lot that I want to do. I want to just enjoy the summer. I want to, like I said, like with Justin trying to get back in shape, getting back to my old form. And I'm I'm really doing well, I'm on track for my goal. Tooch and myself, our wedding anniversaries are next month in July. Well, when this drops, it'll be July. And we are supposed to go out to dinner, right? Tooch on July 25th, butter, New York City.

SPEAKER_10 30:54

My wedding anniversary is June 30th. June 30th. Yours is July.

SPEAKER_09 30:59

You're right, but we're going out in July, Valve.

SPEAKER_10 31:01

Right.

SPEAKER_11 31:02

It's you know, but do you want to uh you want to rephrase that? Because it sounds like you and Tooch are married. Yeah, me and Tooch's wedding anniversary, but we're married.

SPEAKER_10 31:10

We actually are. If you if you listen to how we talk, you we sound married, don't we?

SPEAKER_11 31:14

We do.

SPEAKER_09 31:15

Um, but yeah, so that's and I hope everybody listening like really enjoys their summer, going into the summer and does some things and try to do some stuff with the family. I definitely want to do we we go into the city a lot, we go to the museums, we go to, you know, we like to walk around, do things, and also stuff on the island, get out east and hit like the vineyards and stuff. My so daughter loves going to this one vineyard, they like do charcuterie boards and stuff with cheese and stuff, and we sit down and eat and have a couple of drinks. It's nice out there. So I'm looking forward to doing that for the summer. Also, just get some builds done. A lot going on in the hobby. Let's go into our first ad spot before we get to our little topic. And our first ad spot tonight is gonna be for squadron.com.

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SPEAKER_09 33:05

Alright, we're back, and I want to go into our first topic, but I want to lead into this. So this kind of brings you how people take this hobby. You know, how wow, lately, man, people are getting really feisty on fucking social media about things. When you say something or you give your opinion about something that maybe someone doesn't want to hear. So someone asked, I think it was Mike Hutchinson, who's a friend of ours. He goes under Calm. What's what's his name on Facebook? Kime non like he has some weird acronym name on Facebook.

SPEAKER_02 33:34

Kimi Noxchnitt or something like that. Something like that.

SPEAKER_09 33:36

And and Mike has mentioned about the Lanmo new their new auto blender, or however you want to call it, the AB41. And it's getting very, very mixed reviews by a lot of people. I have the kit, it doesn't, it's it's got a lot of issues, in my opinion. And Mike had posted about it, and I'm like, ah, you know, it's it's it's got a lot of issues. Just because it's new doesn't mean it's better, right? And there's only one other kit really around for it, and that's the old Italy kit, right? Um, I to me a reboxed. I think we talked about this on the live cast a little bit too. And I said, Well, Chris Morasco had just made a big post. Now, Chris is rough around the edges still, he's pretty blunt. He's like, This kit sucks. He's showing all the problems with it. The barrel's all this, the this, that's the other, the wheels suck. I gotta send them out. And he's right, he's spot on. Chris is you know, Chris Morasco is pretty spot on with his his his assessment of the model. And our good friend from Canada, Ed, I'm gonna put you on the spot. Ed Kubiak messages and responds back like, Oh, it's better than the Italary kit, and blah blah blah blah blah, this, that, and the other. I'm like, Ed. Saying that the fucking Lanmo Auto Blender is better than the Italary kit's like saying the Jacksonville Jaguars are better than the New York Jets in football. They both suck. And being better than the Italary kit isn't saying much because that kit, as good as it is at the time, it has a lot of issues that need to be corrected. And I just feel like everybody has to get so up in arms when someone has like a like a saying something that they may me not necessarily agree with, right? I'm telling you, I got the kit. I looked at the molds, I haven't built it yet. I specifically haven't built it because it does have a lot of issues, and I don't want to waste my time fixing that kit right now.

SPEAKER_07 35:32

Well, think about how many kit how many kits you open up and they look fantastic in the box, and then you build them, and they're not they always look good in the box until you start putting it together. You can do an out that's why those inbox if it literally doesn't look good in the box to begin with, then you already know it's got fucking issues before you've even gone there.

SPEAKER_09 35:48

That's why those out-of-box reviews before it's built, you can only take it how like with a grain of salt because you don't know how those parts are gonna fit. And some kits, like you said, Rob, look excellent in the box. And when you start trying to put those suckers together, there's gaps, part parts don't fit properly, you got to make some adjustments, you gotta trim here, cut there, shave here, sand there, just to get these parts to fit right. You gotta put putty on it. And someone who builds like stuff for the magazine when I do out-of-box builds, I don't want to build a model that I have putty all over the place. That's not my goal when I'm building those models. And it's just like this is gonna lead us into our our topic, but it this might take a life of its own a little bit before we get into that. About like, yeah, you're not getting a true assessment when you look at them these kits in the box. And just because it's new doesn't mean it's better, and doesn't mean that just because some of these companies are releasing these kits, it's gonna be good, and some of these kits are not good.

SPEAKER_07 36:47

What engineering team do they have, right? Right, and what technologies are they using, and are is it at their disposal? Like, yeah, I agree. Just because something's new does not mean it's better.

SPEAKER_09 36:58

Listen, I want these kits to be good, especially these Italian armor kits, where there's not many of them out there. You got the old you have the Tamilla kits, Tamia released a bunch of them. There, you know, they upgraded the semavente, right, Frankie? The M1340. They upgraded them with like new suspensions, like the older kits, which I appreciate.

SPEAKER_02 37:15

Larry did that too. It'll be re-released a few of them, right?

SPEAKER_09 37:18

It'll Larry with the with their kits too, the Sahara Sahariana, whatever the hell it's called, and autoblender and things like that. But the thing is, is I want these new companies to take on these types of armor kits, but don't get offended when I if I'm gonna make a comment that they're shitty. I think I'm a pretty good person to give an assessment of what I think a kit is, if it's good or bad. And I build a lot of these kits, you know. I'm building the JS2 right now from uh Royfields, I'm almost done. I'm assembling the aftermarket detail for this kit, the fenders and all this, the fuel tanks. I'm gonna tell you right now, man, if you don't have any prerequisite skills with soldering, you can't build those fucking those fenders and those fuel tanks. You gotta super glue that shit. You gotta be using metal on metal for that stuff. But you know, people just gotta stop taking things way too personal and realize this is a fucking hobby, man. Like it's a freaking hobby. You're supposed to be relaxed and kind of like we talked about last uh show when we talked about the AI, and Justin's like, just fucking scroll on. Like, why are you allowing it to affect your day? Like, you might want it to be so good, you want this kid to be great, but you got one person that tells you it's shitty, and you get all pissed. It's like, dude, just get on with your life. Um, no offense, Ed. This is not necessarily directed towards you, but even though you actually made the comment about um, you know, like water, you know, it's it's not like I'm like, you know.

SPEAKER_02 38:42

Listen, Ed's a friend of mine, so I can tell you it's not it's the point was we were talking about how just there's so much hypersensitivity about this stuff right now. Look at Friday's live stream and the feedback already.

SPEAKER_08 38:56

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_07 38:57

Hypersensitivity, you say let's remind ourselves about what a fucking hobby is, yeah, and and what it is.

SPEAKER_09 39:05

It's supposed to right uh give the definition, Webster's right now.

SPEAKER_07 39:10

So I got her propped up right now. I plunked it into fucking the old Googles, and this is what it came up with. A hobby is a regular activity undertaken for pleasure, relaxation, or personal fulfillment during one's leisure time. Right, it's a chosen pursuit, such as craft, sports, or collecting, distinct from work or daily obligations, and is primarily driven by enjoyment rather than financial gain.

SPEAKER_09 39:35

Right. I mean, I know that Google AI and that definition, and I think that's a perfect definition.

SPEAKER_07 39:40

It's a great description of it, and then also characteristics. So you get voluntary, it is an intentional personal choice made for fun rather than a requirement of a job or school. You got recreational, where the primary goal is enjoyment, stress relief, and personal satisfaction, or engaging, which is typically involves active participation, learning, and skill development. I think we're all fucking keen on that shit, right?

SPEAKER_09 40:04

Right. I mean, it's interesting that we're gonna have this discussion, and uh, and this is gonna actually be I think this is gonna be actually like ah, you know what, this is not the best topic, but I think this is actually gonna be pretty good.

SPEAKER_07 40:14

Okay, so hold on. So I skipped one over one thing, there's types of hobbies there. We we know there's all types of hobbies. Here's the other one that says why hobbies matter. According to general community consensus on platforms like Reddit and Hobbies, taking up a hobby is a great way to relieve stress, develop new skills, and enrich your everyday life. While some people may occasionally earn money from what they love, the defining factor is the passion and personal choice behind the activity.

SPEAKER_09 40:43

Spot on, even that part there. I mean, the five of us, the hobby is it means different to all of us in some ways. We've developed a lot of great friendships in our groups, not just in our group, the insanity, but in other groups, clubs. But you're doing it for the enjoyment level, and of course, there's times when it's not enjoyable, even when you want it to be, right, Frank? Yeah, I just think that people get ultra sensitive or defensive over the hobby to the point where it becomes a little bit, I think, more than just a hobby for some people.

SPEAKER_07 41:14

Obsessive, maybe would be a word. Obsessive.

SPEAKER_09 41:17

I think a lot of people have a lot of strong voices in the hobby, and they should, especially people who might be, let's say, an influencer in some ways, but I also don't like it when people try to indoctrinate people with their views about how it should be. You can state your view of how you think it should be and what brings enjoyment for you. And Santucci's got a lot of fucking hobbies. I think he's the one guy who's got the most hobbies here.

SPEAKER_07 41:42

I thought about Santucci when I fucking picked this topic too, because he's gonna have a broader realization, I guess, about why we would have uh like a hobby is a hobby, we just defined it, right?

SPEAKER_09 41:54

But why do you do it and what what is it about each specific little one that what's the I think the competitive nature of the hobby, and I don't want to get into shows the show or anything like that, but no, when the hobby came about in the fucking 60s, or whenever this uh you know scale modeling became a thing, plastic modeling, then it's like, oh, let's make a club and oh let's make a show, and then it all of a sudden it became what m less of a hobby for some people, and more about competing to see who's the best. And I think that's the one part of the hobby that I personally don't give a shit about, but a lot of people do, and that's where it takes that one key element in that definition of what a hobby should be leisure and bring you happiness and relaxation. And the competition part of this hobby now for people has now made that definition of it not practical for them because they take things ultra seriously. You see, about these running rants that are going on on the Facebook, and I do my own rants about the hobby and someone and so forth, but I just feel like people need to find that aspect back. You know, when you start becoming stressed out. Now, listen, I do a lot of stuff, and we talked about this before we went live, right, Rob, about how I do a lot of things deadlined, but I'm also doing things for other like a publication or something.

SPEAKER_07 43:24

I understand that you're doing it not only for the enjoyment, because you're not always enjoying it, like you already admitted it, but uh it's to fucking further the hobby to make it enjoyable for other people, right? But now is doing all this shit and you're like this is the way a model should should look and whatever, is it all of it all of a sudden like you know, you can't be discouraged when you see something that's better than what you can do. You need to strive to be better if you want to, and if you don't, then who fucking cares?

SPEAKER_09 43:54

You said something that was really good there, Rob. I think that for me personally, the hobby's taken another direction. It's not necessarily enjoyment for myself, but maybe try to bring enjoyment for other people or help other people enjoy the hobby and make a hobby better. Not just like here in the with the podcasts and things like that that we do, um, which takes time. We have to come here and record it. I have to edit it, we have to put it up, costs money to put to host these things and things like that. Um, also do stuff for publications or books and things like that. You're not doing it. I mean, yeah, is it personal gratification to see your fucking model on the cover of a magazine or written or print? Sure. But it's also meant to give people to inspire. I I'm I'm only speaking for me to maybe inspire somebody to try that kit or see how well things are or do things, or like that's why I haven't been turning out YouTube videos lately because it's hard. I I it's hard to edit time, it's a lot of time, a lot of time can you know it takes a lot of time to record, edit. I got a lot of things filmed, I just don't have time to edit it.

SPEAKER_07 44:57

When does that come up when uh a YouTuber decides I've reached the point now where I can just do YouTube full time, right? Like, well, I'm gonna tell you right now, man, you have time because you gotta get a lot of views, man. You got a regular job and you're doing YouTube, and you're doing YouTube good enough that you're almost at that point. Like, how fucking like where's the where's the tipping point, right?

SPEAKER_09 45:20

Remember what Sully said, and Sully's a good gauge because Sully's got a pretty nice following on his YouTube channel, and he has a really nice YouTube channel, Sully's Scale Models. You gotta check it out on YouTube. And Sully's got about 10,000 subscribers or more. I think he's got a little more than 10,000. He gets a decent amount of views. He's like, ah, you know, every once in a while you can maybe get a check from Google. Like you have to have over a hundred, you have to have at least a hundred dollars, I think, in your revenue to be able to take money. So you need to be able, you got to generate a lot of revenue very quickly because what happens is is let's say, for instance, in one month you generate a lot of views and you hit like $90 revenue, you don't you don't get that money because you gotta be I'm I could be wrong here, but I think that's how it works.

SPEAKER_07 46:06

I only ever got one paycheck from YouTube. I managed to get monetized and I got one paycheck.

SPEAKER_09 46:10

Yeah, we're monetized on our channel, but but we don't make did we get paid like I was watching it like like a live cast makes like seven cents one live cast show makes seven cents.

SPEAKER_07 46:23

Love it.

SPEAKER_09 46:23

Um, my H39 generated a lot of revenue um because it's got like 20,000 views, but it's spread out over such a wide range of months that it didn't make enough money to be able to withdraw.

SPEAKER_07 46:35

It doesn't factor, right?

SPEAKER_09 46:37

So it doesn't matter, but uh well we're going off the we're veering off the main topic. So Steve Santucci here is the man of many.

SPEAKER_07 46:46

He's a scale modeler, he was the thought behind the soldier, right?

SPEAKER_09 46:51

The rev war, the archaeology, the card collecting, the stamp collecting. I even had to pick up a poster, uh and I remember this poster because I had it as a kid, but he had his sign. It was the Burger King poster of the New York Yankees from like 1979, right?

SPEAKER_10 47:10

78 over my head.

SPEAKER_09 47:12

There it is. So that way he's pointing. I had the woman the and I'll tell you, she was a really nice lady. Yeah, a woman that framed that for him. Frank, he be he had this frame by some woman, I guess he met at a show, who lives not too far from my house in Massampico. I wound up picking up that thing for him. But this is what I'm talking about. The talking so Tooch, you can't tell me that card collecting is stressful because it ain't right.

SPEAKER_10 47:36

It's yeah, no, it is stressful. I I simply can oh no, it it's become stressful, and here's why. And the biggest thing is you have one company now that has the licenses for Major League Baseball, the NFL, and now the NBA. The prices that they have set over and over again have really put products out of reach for most people, and you don't get a return on your investment. Meaning, if you buy a box and it's it's I mean, I used to buy for base what we call like baseline stuff, uh, like the flagship stuff, it was like sixty dollars for a box. I might be able to put three-quarters of the set together, right? I might pay $65, $75, $80 for that box. You might get a hit. What a hit is is like a relic card, an autograph, or a short print card, a rare card. You're now paying four times that. Yeah, but hold on now, Tooch.

SPEAKER_07 48:27

But you're not getting your return. We're talking card collecting at this point. Is it all just strictly for monetary gain? I I don't I think or is there some other enjoyment you're getting out of the uh out of it?

SPEAKER_10 48:39

I got enjoyed it was a four it was an affordable enjoyment where I could sit there, look at the stats of the players, you know, build sets. Um, like Rob said, one of the things I I do is, and I haven't done it in a long time because I have a lot of autographs. There's very few players out there that I really want an autograph of, but I used to go to a lot of shows, a lot of autograph shows between here and and Long Island and Westchester hunting for and trying to complete pieces like the Burger King poster from 1978 with as many players who I could find to sign it. I have a menu from 1973 from the Yankee Clubhouse restaurant. So on the you know, and that was the 50th anniversary of the stadium. I have that signed by players who played for the Yankees prior to 1973. I mean, I have all kinds of things signed. The thrill of the hunt, the thrill of the hunt, the completion of a goal. You set a goal, you complete it, right? The same thing with card collecting. If I'm buying modern cards, I'm collecting to put sets together, I'm looking for that hit. But I'm gonna tell you right now what most collecting or most hobby has become. It's you're and Rob Adams, you can relate to this. You're chasing that high, you're chasing that high. And and once you think about this in terms of our hobby, you get that first gold medal. How does the second one feel? How does the third one when you get to 20? How do you feel? But you keep doing it because you're chasing that high that you remember from the first time, and you you kind of lose. I think eventually you kind of lose why you're in the hobby to begin with. And for me, like card collecting, I've shifted my attention to only very going after older cards. When I mean old, I'm talking pre-war.

SPEAKER_07 50:19

When I say pre-war, pre-war like primo fucking things, right? Yeah, it's not yeah, things I guess. And I mean, I I I guess cards, and that's you know how it works, is because there's a good chance you might get not a good chance, but a chance that you might get some rare thing in that package, right?

SPEAKER_10 50:40

Yeah, well, that's the thing. Like sometimes I've gotten very fortunate where I pulled a card out where I wait, I at the right time I flipped it for big money, or I've sold cards for good money to reinvest. One of the favorite things I did was year, I it took me 10 years to do it, but I put together a graded set of the 1961 Topps Yankees. I wasn't born in 61, but I just fell in love with the cleanness of the set of the card itself. And my in my grades, you know, 10 is a perfect gem mint. My grade is right around above a seven, so I have nothing less than a seven out of ten. I have eights and I have one or two nines. I even have mantles. I mean, those are my most expensive Mickey Mantle cards are in that set, but I I had a goal, I reached it. You know, I I set goals, I reach it because it's again, it's the thrill of the hunt when that comes to it. The same thing with coin collecting. I like the Morgan silver dollar. I have one one example for every year except for two, and it's the two most expensive years. That's what I do. Sometimes it's it's that's what I'm going after. I want to own a a piece of history, so I I could we've never seen Toots so animated before.

SPEAKER_09 51:45

No, I mean toots. He's talking about cards, though. There's the modeling inside. This is episode. Hold on, though.

SPEAKER_07 51:51

Yeah, this is just kind of we're just kind of going down the route of like maybe what just drives a person to want to do any of these things, right? Like, why do you why do you want to do RC for me? RC is like, yeah, it's cool, but I'm gonna smash it if it's a plane, I'm gonna fucking crash it and then promote thousands of dollars. Yay, what a hobby.

SPEAKER_10 52:12

As a kid, I didn't have a lot of friends. I I lived I lived on a dead end street. No, no, we don't have a lot of friends. Um, when I was a kid, I mean I lived on a this for the for the most important part of years of my life very early. I lived on a dead end street with like two two sets of senior citizens on either side of us, you know. And I had my my younger siblings who were very young as well. And like I I always interacted with those two sets of seniors, they were like grandparents, another sets of grandparents, but stamp collecting, coin collecting, baseball card, model building were all away. I connected with my father when I was young. Ah, see, here now we're getting somewhere. All right. So I connected with him that way. Of course, my parents get divorced a few years later, and it became more of my escape from all my realities going around, you know. That you know, I always joked around that you know, my best friend was my stamp album because where else could you travel the world whatever living your leaving your home, learn more languages and geography and history of other countries without ever leaving your home, without the internet or or an encyclopedia set. So for me initially, it was always to connect with someone else, a family member, and then B, it became my relief, it became my solitude, it became my sanity. It was the things that I trusted most. Like they never betrayed me, they never hurt me, they never harmed me, they always kept me occupied and happy. So, in a lot of ways, I think that's what hobbies initially began. But again, when you start when you get into those things, when you start competing, you're chasing that high, and you eventually lose while you were in the hobby to begin with.

SPEAKER_09 53:50

Right. I mean, I think scale modeling and those other hobbies, which I think are great. I mean, listen, reading is a hobby. My wife is a fucking big reader, like she reads oh is the Donnie. I mean, see, Debbie, I mean, thank God for the Kindle now, like over the years, there's like no room for books in this house. Like, people read, you know, people hike, people do like a lot of leisure things like that. Like fucking, you know, fishing is a hobby, right? I mean, these are hobbies that people enjoy.

SPEAKER_07 54:20

You don't always have to do you don't have to pick one and just stick to it. That's it. You don't have to, right? So it's winter time, I build models. When it's summertime, I smoke meat and grow plants. Smoke weed and smoke meat. Well, I smoke I smoke things, right? Several things.

SPEAKER_10 54:40

You can smoke some things now.

SPEAKER_07 54:42

Denati, what's your opinion on fucking hobbies?

SPEAKER_02 54:46

My origin story is kind of a bit like Tooch, because I'm an army brat. So I I spent a lot of time alone. We would move after a couple years, and I'm talking like North America, Europe, and making friends when you're a kid back in the 70s was different than it's for my kids today in the 2020s, right? But for me, it was like Tooch, it was the the solace of being alone and being able to do to have these hobbies. They were my friends because I don't have a lot of friends. I still don't have a a lot of friends. I mean, I'm your friend. I know you are, but most of them are far away, right? Like I mean, my model club right now uh is the majority of the friends I have in this community. I'm not from here. We moved here nine years ago. So the club and guys like and Adams specifically is not an internet friend because we've spent literally weeks together person to person. So he's my brother, and it's the same with you know, with Cooch and with Riv and with Justin. We've we've had that opportunity to connect on a personal level face to face, which is important. But my hobbies are are again things that uh help to cope, make you feel good.

SPEAKER_07 55:53

But it kind of leads me to a question. Okay, so we we kind of talked about hobbies and collecting, which are collecting is a hobby, right? Yes, it is, yes. But what do you actually get out of collecting? You finally get that little thing, that piece, right? So you plunk it in you know, in its spot where it's supposed to go, and then you've completed the collection and you're like, there's no there's nothing. You you you literally did nothing, you just paid for it and put it in there, right? I I'm I'm saying like a coin or a stamp, something like that. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 56:27

So for me, I collect I collect, I I collect snow globes. I'm a collector too, but when I had my job when I traveled a lot, anytime I went somewhere different, I would seek out a snow globe. And now my kids, when they go, when Max went to New York and Matthew went to Germany, they bring me snow globes. And these snow globes, they're called, you know, they're in a dresser, they're in a cabinet in the living room. And what do I get from them? Believe it or not, the memories that they evoke from this collection. Because what's great is there you go.

SPEAKER_07 57:00

All right, see, now we're talking.

unknown 57:02

Right?

SPEAKER_02 57:02

My friend Mike Frasad went to Australia for a conference, and while he was there, he went to his homeland, which is Fiji. He went to Fiji and he got me a snow globe from Fiji. Dude, I will never get a snow globe. No, but he got he got me a snow globe from Fiji. Mike passed away from cancer about uh eight years ago. And when I see that snow globe, I still remember him uh coming up to me and giving me shit because Australian border control made him dump three snow globes he had bought. He went on a snow globe frenzy and he dumped them, and then he had all these hassles, and he's like, dude, stop picking on me because I'm brown, and all and it's hilarious remembering that story. But when I go and look in the cover and I see those snow globes, I remember Matthew going representing Team Canada and Germany. I remember my friend Mike, God bless his soul. Uh, you know, so the collecting for me that's that that connection, right? It's to go and the memories and the feelings that that evokes, and it's it's I I think that's important. And and you know, Rob, in my family, all of us have hobbies, like that's one important part. And and they're all different. I mean, Max and I video game, we have that in common. We all do that, and I think it's really important. I think our my modeling hobby is important, it's made me friends, it uh it helped me after a car accident, right?

SPEAKER_07 58:26

I can honestly tell you that my wife does not have a hobby except for when it's hockey season here. Her and Jordan go to the games. Other than that, she doesn't fucking have a hobby, she just sits up there on her phone and doesn't do anything else.

SPEAKER_08 58:38

Well, that's a problem.

SPEAKER_07 58:40

It is, it is a problem. Problem it's like you need to do something, right?

SPEAKER_09 58:45

Teach her how to clean the house a little better. That can be her new hobby.

SPEAKER_07 58:49

I knew you were gonna say that.

SPEAKER_02 58:50

You might as well just remember, I've been a college prof, and I know Tooch does this too. Steve does it in his high school class, I do it at my college. When I get my students, I have them for three years, and for three years, I reinforce in those students you need to find a hobby. Get something that will help you give you some pleasure, allow you to cope, take you away from the day-to-day something that's not your work, not your family, something for you that you enjoy.

SPEAKER_07 59:21

And you know what? You don't need to feel bad that if you don't want to do this fucking hobby, which I've I'm in that spot right now, where it's not like it's not like I don't have any interest in it, I just don't want to do it right now. I have other things I need to do.

SPEAKER_09 59:34

I mean, you could take a break from things. Like, listen, I'm a you're talking about other hobbies. I was a huge gamer for years in my life, right? You guys all know my retro gaming collection, my Japanese import games that I have, all the systems over here. Christopher partakes in a lot of them, but I have all the game systems. I haven't played any games in like a year. Like, I I usually play. Remember, I always take like December off. I play Call of Duty and I relax, I play this, I play that.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:00

You always say you're playing zombies, zombies, GTA 6.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:04

I mean, when it comes out, just made three billion dollars in 24 hours in pre-orders. Definitely no, it comes out in November now. I'm definitely playing GTA 6 when it comes out, but I used to always play video games, and that was something that was very, very relaxing for me. Well, as relaxing as it can be, but um I I used to love gaming before multiplayer. I you know, I used to love playing like you know, role-playing games and things like that.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:30

Yeah, challenging the actual game itself rather than people.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:33

I used to love like playing like Final Fantasy and things like that. That just you can escape Resident Evil games, things like that. I loved it, you know, and I gotta get I do get that's something that I really gotta get back into.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:45

Like when everything went to online and you're like it's you're playing everybody online, yeah. That's when I actually stopped liking video games, and I stopped.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:53

It's a balance, you have to balance your hobbies. That's the thing. And I think for me, before we get to Justin, I want Justin to jump in here, is you know, being able to balance the things that you like to do, right? Exercising now, I used to always be everybody knows I was a big runner before I fucking got hurt my hip and get and whatever, and that's a big part of my was part of my life, and I always had to have time for that, and also like the hobby, the modeling, as well as gaming and things like that, or other things, you know, you got to balance it out, you know. I think sometimes even for myself, we always like, you know, it's great to be a part of this hobby, the modeling community hobby, right? But you have to take a break from it once in a while, and it's okay to take a break. Yeah, I know we joke around, like when Rob's like, I haven't really done much. I'm envious of that because you really do sometimes need to have it like just like we say, you take a step back and come back with fresh eyes when you're working on a project for some.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:49

And you know what? I don't feel like I'm gonna lose my skills or my knowledge. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_09 1:01:54

The hobby ebbs and flows too when it comes to like information and things. Like right now, going into the summer is usually a quiet time on social media when it comes to the hobby a little bit. I think you could see it right now. There's a little bit of a decline with people sharing projects and talking about things.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:10

I know there's always some like they're out, you know, experience.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:14

And you should be doing that. I mean, even if it's a job, like well, we're not going into the job aspect of the hobby, but you gotta find a happy medium inside the hobby to not have it over if it's taking over your life and it's all you're doing. You gotta take a step back. Once I finish these last couple of projects that I'm working on, I am gonna take a step back for a couple of weeks where I'm gonna relax.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:37

See, again, that's kind of where collecting is different than right.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:42

Well, what Tooch does with the stamp collecting and the card collecting, you buy it, you put it in the thing, and it's right, right. That's that that's that's what that that's a col that's a collectible hobby, but collecting is still a hobby, so it's a hobby, right? You're doing something like when you remember when the fucking um what was it? The beanie babies was a big thing. I read beanie babies. Now they got those laboooboos or whatever the fuck they're called, fucking laboo-boos or whatever the hell these people buy. Like, this is like, yeah, it's a hobby. I mean, you collect things, it's a hobby. I was a huge comic book reader and collector for like like Frankie said when I was younger. I mean, I fucking had every comic book. I was comics were like my life when I was a kid, too.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:21

I was a comic book collector as well. And at the end of the day, you're like, is this this is number one? Like this comic book, this comic book is worth this much money. Or like, I'm buying this model kit because it's gonna be worth this much.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:35

Nah, and the models are only gonna be as worth as much as someone's willing to pay, even with well, comic books are different. We're not gonna get into the value of comics. People don't realize, like, you really a lot of comic books, the old stuff, the golden era comics are worth stuff, but like after like 1965 only that market, that market was so up and down, like fucking in the 80s and 90s.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:54

Fucking the the internet ruined it all. You gotta understand it was insane.

SPEAKER_12 1:03:59

Let's get to just Mr. Ryan. With my entire situation that's going on right now, uh, I've found that I'm finding it hard to get to the bench to get to the hobby. Uh, not necessarily because of work or anything along those lines. It's more of a this was an escape for me. It was it was a way for me to block out the nervous system destruction that I was undergoing. And now that that aspect isn't there, I don't feel like I need to go to the bench as much, uh, which is terrible because I spent a whole lot of money, I got a friggin' walk-in closet full of shit.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:40

So you're saying because now you've been released from what you thought was or what was pissing you off, that you don't need the relaxation of a hobby.

SPEAKER_12 1:04:51

I don't no no no no, I don't need the same level that I had before.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:57

Because I mean, I look at you and you're like, look at my bonsai tree. These these are the same kind of hobbies, right?

SPEAKER_12 1:05:03

Yeah, no, absolutely, absolutely. But something like a bonsai tree, you're you make small moves every couple of months, you know what I mean? Like it's not an active hobby. I I spend more time sitting amongst my bonsai drinking my coffee than I do actively working on them.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:22

Yeah, that's actually the hobby.

SPEAKER_12 1:05:25

Exactly.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:26

It exactly, it's the patience of of being with nature and looking around and enjoying what it is that you made happen, exactly. Yep, and and when you're gonna tree and that little leaf is coming out the top, you're like, holy fuck, I got a leaf.

SPEAKER_12 1:05:42

I was just astounded. I I did a major trim back of my lemon tree, and I was out there drinking coffee this morning. I'm like, holy shit, this thing's exploding in growth right now. You know, last time I looked at it, there was a single leaf sitting on the thing.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:56

So from that, even uh I I Especially enjoy living things as well. You know, versus oh open it up and yet uh all the stamps are filled. Sorry, Tooch. But like a leaf growing out of something is way more exciting than fucking a page in a stamp book for me.

SPEAKER_12 1:06:16

Right, because you're putting care into that, you're putting hope into that, you know.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:21

And I think that like we were saying, video games are a fucking uh a hobby, sure. But you know, all you got is like a number, a stat on a screen. You literally have nothing. So at least if you're like growing or building, we're building, let's just talk about it. We're building, we're building models.

SPEAKER_11 1:06:43

You got something to show for it at the end.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:45

Right. That you can literally hold in your hands, right? And I I think that is more important, and I think that's actually healthier for your fucking brain than the collecting. I I don't know.

SPEAKER_12 1:06:59

Well, in the in the collecting, and and I'll use just the collecting of how I see Tooch doing the collecting, you know, you're hunting for that stamp. The actual hobby of that is the search, not necessarily the procurement. The procurement is that that moment of zen.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:17

When you finally get it, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:07:19

Exactly. That's the culmination.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:21

And the whole problem is that dopamine hit lasts like fucking one minute, and you're just like, all right, it's in my collection now. I got it. Right. Exactly. Right?

SPEAKER_10 1:07:33

No, you're right. And that's what I said before. It's like you're chasing the high. And you like you said, when you complete that page, you complete the model, you put it on the shelf, you forget about it, and you're like, oh, what do I do now? And you gotta do another one.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:44

Remember back in the day, like when we were kids, uh, most of us should remember this. Those those sticker books you could buy, right? So you'd buy the pack of like five stickers, and you'd fill in the pages, right? The panini ones, tooch. You must you surely must know.

SPEAKER_10 1:07:58

You mean there, you mean the soccer card? I mean the foot the national football cards they made, the soccer cards.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:03

They're doing it now, but it used to be like it was Batman, it was fucking everything. Yeah, all these sticker books you could buy, right?

SPEAKER_09 1:08:10

And you'd I remember those, those are great.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:16

That was great. That was fun as a kid, right? And they're doing it now again for FIFA.

SPEAKER_10 1:08:22

Well, no, Panini's always done that for FIFA for years. They that goes back. There's people McClecking those since the 80s.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:28

They have Star Wars books they had, et they had little old and annie, they had like baseball footballers.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:34

I remember that shit from when I was a kid.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:36

That was so much fun. You always had to try to put the sticker in perfectly, and then you could always mail away for the stickers you couldn't get in the pack. There was even garbage pail kids and all that. I love dude, I had so many garbage pail kids when I was a kid. My father used to get me boxes of garbage pail kit cars.

SPEAKER_10 1:08:53

I was so spoiled by the way, they're still being produced, garbage kale kids, and they're like one of the hottest things out on the market. Uh they were fun then, you know. For fear of getting way off topic, I just we're getting way off topic right now.

SPEAKER_09 1:09:06

We just lost half of our listeners. This is a modeling podcast. All these hobbies are great, and they're all meant to keep you like in you know, engaged and and and happy, and that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to keep you relaxing, and hobbies are relaxing, right?

SPEAKER_07 1:09:21

And take away from the bullshit of the daily life that you go through, right?

SPEAKER_09 1:09:25

And you and to go full circle with the modeling hobby. I really truly believe that more people, and like I always say this on every fucking show or every few shows, we talk about all the people that don't worry about all the nonsense that the hardcore model is, you know, worry about, but you really need to take a step back when you start finding the hobby is not enjoyable anymore, any hobby, but a scale hobby, for instance, and it's no longer a hobby, is it? Right, you gotta take a step back. And there's times when I do it where it can be frustrating, and you gotta take a step back, like Scott Samos said to me when we were debating about uh when I was giving his intervention on the Model Geeks podcast. You do you, you do you, boo. That's what he said, and it's true. You gotta do you, build what you want to build, build it the way you want to build it, paint it the way you want to paint it.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:12

And don't feel the need to like. I mean, I I guess for fear of going into the social media pressure or whatever, but once you put yourself out there, you're like all of a sudden, I gotta be posting all this shit all the time, right? No, you don't.

SPEAKER_09 1:10:25

There's so many things that we're not in like, for instance, myself, obviously, my social media surrounds you know, just you know, posting going out to dinner and things like that with the family, but also on the modeling side, modeling stuff. But I'm sure there's so many other aspects of Facebook that we're not even aware of for all the crazy shit. I'm sure there's a parasailing Facebook group, right, Frank? There is hunting Facebook groups and you know, uh trail racing Facebook groups and all this other shit.

SPEAKER_10 1:10:53

I'm sure there's I'll tell you what group there isn't.

SPEAKER_09 1:10:56

What's that?

SPEAKER_10 1:10:56

iHeartRiv. You're an idiot.

SPEAKER_09 1:10:58

Just enjoy the hobby and you get from it. No, no, you know, listen to podcasts and have a good time and have a few laughs. That's why we do this. This was a fun little topic. I'm glad we got into this. This actually morphed into something a little more, but I think that it's indicative of what's going on in the hobby today. You just can't get involved in all the nonsense that goes on on social media. A lot of people probably don't, but there are some groups out there that that will like you know, entice you to go along with their fucking banter and their aggressive way of responding to people and things like that. Like I always say, no one gives a shit what your opinions are, no one cares. I know I don't. I don't care what your politics are, your religion, the change your root for or anything. I don't care.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:41

You're an asshole, and everybody's got one, so it's fine.

SPEAKER_09 1:11:44

You know, it's like people spend this time posting stuff. It's like, dude, I don't just I don't care, man. Just you know, it's your page, you're more than you know, you go at it. You know, when it comes to the hobby, you know, I always feel like you know, I would like more people to help be supportive of people. There's a lot of people out there that are supportive. I just think that there's not enough people that are supportive to other people, you know. Some people are asking for advice to get like two or three people.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:10

I think you see a lot more of that now. Like the people are more helpful.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:14

I think so. I think, but there's so many resources out there for people in the hobby today that are there for you that weren't once there, right? Web-based forums back in the day, you know, people had to want to respond, or maybe you know, need to find a thread, you know, 12 things below things later on in the day to be able to see what people are discussing, as opposed to social media where you know your algorithms are throwing stuff at you. I mean, Facebook is so messed up right now with all the ads for everything that's on your feed. It's like an ad is every other thing.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:47

You know where I think that you'd probably benefit the most from your fucking hobby is if you didn't even know online existed. Just do your fucking hobby.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:54

I'll tell you, man, I like I say this all the time. I mean, I I enjoy the hobby now and have a lot of great times, and I and I love like you know, participating in what we do here and with the group and just in general and magazine, whatever. But there was nothing like 80s and 90s in this hobby for me personally. That was the most fun I ever had in the hobby when you just didn't give a shit. You just built, had fun. You went to this, you know, you you were learning. It's fun when you're learning things, right? It's sort of like that courtship when you get into a relationship, right? I mean, just saying you meet a girl, you you you date, you're courting the person. It's you know, a new relationship is fun and exciting, right? You try, you know, you're you're trying to enjoy the situations with your significant other, you're you know, doing things and you're enjoying life and so on and so forth to the point where you know you've married 25 years later, you try to find that spark that what you once had at the beginning, like Tooch was saying, where you're chasing that gold medal again, or you're chasing things, and when you're in the hobby, like it's like you can never get that feeling back. You can never get that back, like you can never get that feeling back when you saw Star Wars for the first time if you're a Star Wars fan. Or you're never gonna get that feeling when you're like young kids today who whom like Tooch is a Yankee fan, you know. Growing up, you know, the Yankees were good, they were bad, but we've seen the Yankees win, you know, championships. Or the Knicks, the Knicks just won the NBA championship. I never saw the Knicks win. It's amazing. It was an amazing feeling to actually see a team I root for win a championship and being a Knicks fan my entire life to actually finally see them win because the last time they won was the year before I was born. Am I ever gonna get that feeling back again seeing the New York Knicks win a championship? No, are you ever gonna get that feeling back when you first get into a hobby and start learning how to do things and figuring things out? Nah, you'll never get that back.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:48

And that's the thing, you know what? Like a hobby actually makes you engage your brain, right? It's detaching you from the rest of the shit that you have to think about all the time.

SPEAKER_09 1:14:57

So creativity. I mean, there's no creativity, but and Tooch might get mad at me for saying this, but there's no creativity when you're fucking collecting collecting a baseball card.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:05

Collecting shit, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:15:06

You know, no, that's not that's not entirely true. It's all on how you present it.

SPEAKER_09 1:15:10

Well, okay, well, time out, timeout.

SPEAKER_10 1:15:12

Well, how you organize it? Don't talk to me.

SPEAKER_09 1:15:14

Okay, organizing I can understand that. And okay, I'll give you that.

SPEAKER_10 1:15:18

Organ organizing it on your wall, but I've got uh cards of all the Yankee, I got Yankee cards that are all I got them. It's how you organize it. Don't don't say oh, there's no create, yeah. You don't think that's creative?

SPEAKER_08 1:15:31

Did you organize your home to you okay?

SPEAKER_07 1:15:33

But that creativity is one day to do, and you're done. Not true.

SPEAKER_09 1:15:39

Not true. When you organize your home office, is that is that a hobby? No, it's fucking you're organized.

SPEAKER_10 1:15:44

I don't I well I'm organizing my hobby, it's part it's being creative with it. The presentation, okay.

SPEAKER_09 1:15:49

You know, you're reaching right now, too. Now we're really hold on.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:53

Should we go? Should we go back to what the definition of a hobby is again? Should I read that one more time?

SPEAKER_09 1:15:58

No, but we know what it was.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:00

But uh, no, I'm I'm right. We should probably read it more time.

SPEAKER_09 1:16:04

I think right, it brings you pleasure, brings you enjoyment, and it's leisure, you're not getting paid.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:09

A hobby is a regular activity undertaken for pleasure, relaxation, or personal fulfillment during one's leisure time.

SPEAKER_09 1:16:19

I didn't say that the card collecting wasn't a hobby, I just said that it's not as you don't, there's not as much.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:24

No, I know I've been picking on the same thing, believe me. Like, I I struggle with collecting as being a hobby because, like, like you said, you get that little dopamine hit, you're like, Yes, I got it, and I get to put it in.

SPEAKER_09 1:16:36

That is definitely a hobby. Comic book collect those are hobby. Collecting is a definitely a hobby. Like, you know, you you want to walk the you know, you live here on Long Island, you want to walk the beaches here and collect shells and and and different things. That's a hobby, you know, because it takes time to collect and find things like that, rock collecting, geodes, whatever people do.

SPEAKER_12 1:16:55

There's a friend of mine that goes to some creek in New Jersey and he's pulling up all these mesolithic shark teeth.

SPEAKER_10 1:17:01

Oh, yeah, I know that creek. I've I've gotten there.

SPEAKER_09 1:17:03

That's so cool, right? So I want to get some shark teeth.

SPEAKER_10 1:17:06

Where do I go to do that? What where come down? Come down. I'll take you.

SPEAKER_09 1:17:10

Well, like did I got they got them the megalodon teeth, too?

SPEAKER_10 1:17:14

Uh it's the the this someone actually recently pulled out a large one, but I I did it years ago with the kids. I even made my own little small screen so we can screen through the the rock. I know where you go.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:24

You go in the river, you gotta be in the river to do it. I'm a collector of items as well. I love collecting shit, but like I said, it's like an instant hit. It's different.

SPEAKER_09 1:17:35

I mean, it's different, it's different, man.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:38

Like it doesn't make you it doesn't, it doesn't acquire your time.

SPEAKER_09 1:17:42

Well, listen, hook rugs, needle point, people do paint by numbers, puzzles.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:47

Sure, but it it all takes time, and you gotta do and right. I mean, it's like to me, a hobby has to take time. It's it's something else. If it doesn't literally take time, it just takes listen.

SPEAKER_09 1:17:59

Some people like to just look at their cards. That's I guess a hot like you you're you're doing your hobby by looking at things and stuff. I mean, it is too. Would you call that a hobby or just be that's a terrible graded card, though too it's 4.5, just burn it.

SPEAKER_10 1:18:14

No, it's excellent. That thing, that thing will sell above above the uh the PSA, the uh I'm joking.

SPEAKER_09 1:18:19

Shouldered up a Willie Mays card.

SPEAKER_10 1:18:21

No, that's Hank Aaron.

SPEAKER_09 1:18:22

Oh, Hank Aaron. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_10 1:18:24

Here, here's a Sandy co here's a Sandy Koufax rookie.

SPEAKER_09 1:18:27

I I think the grade does not reflect Sandy's gotta die to get that that'll double in price when he's dead.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:33

See, I I'm not uh I'm not opposed to collecting things. I'm I'm not saying I was and I was never trying to say that. However, is collecting different than a hobby? I think it is.

SPEAKER_09 1:18:44

It's I it's a different type of hobby, like it's a different, like okay. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, uh it's a di it's different. It's it's uh it falls under the definition of that's why I put touch on the fucking it falls under the definition of leisure, having fun, enjoyment, and so on and so forth, but it's different, like scale modeling and hook rugs and needlepoint, and you know, RC cars and things where you like actually creating things. I think that creative aspect this makes it even creating though.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:14

It it's it you have to spend continuous time to do it, right?

SPEAKER_09 1:19:18

Okay, you're a drawer, you're an artist, Rob. So when you're doing your paintings and drawing, I mean that's that's an art, that's a hobby. That's that's creativity. That's that it's that's what it is.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:29

It is, but it takes time, and that's time.

SPEAKER_09 1:19:33

It takes time. People you look listen, we talk about like with Justin with the car guys, like working on one-to-one scale cars, rebuilding engines and working on auto body like body work, people in the garage not doing as a job like Justin does, but people who like you know renovate and uh you know do cars or whatever you want to call it, they you know, whatever it is, restore cars. I mean, that's a hobby.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:57

Yep. All right, tooch, let's get to your final words on this fucking topic.

SPEAKER_10 1:20:02

Some of my hobbies connect me with my past, some of my hobbies connect me with my other hobbies, my history-related hobbies connect me with my RevWar reenacting or with my model building. So, in the end, my hobbies blend, and I have way too many if you talk to certain people. And I'm okay with that.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:20

Would you agree that the definition of the hobby that we read twice now was accurate?

SPEAKER_10 1:20:26

I mean, it's accurate, but it's hobbies, whatever you do. Whatever makes you happy that is not a job that makes you happy. That's awesome. Right.

SPEAKER_09 1:20:35

Right, and I agree with that.

SPEAKER_10 1:20:36

Yeah, I agree with that.

SPEAKER_09 1:20:38

All right, well, listen, we're gonna we're gonna go through our little little segments now. We went for a while. This was fun. This is a nice little departure from nonsense, no screaming and yelling at each other. Frankie Donati has something to say. What's up, Frank?

SPEAKER_02 1:20:49

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SPEAKER_09 1:20:57

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SPEAKER_09 1:21:47

Alright, we're back, and we're gonna talk about our first segment here, quick, what's on the bench and what we've been doing. So I'm gonna I usually talk a little bit about I'm gonna say something because we just did Demon Barber Designs. I got Christopher Nielsen's BT5 conversion for the Hobby Boss BT2. He sent it to me along with like eight sets of tracks and a bunch of other things. I'm gonna tell you right now here that that kit that he sent me, that upgrade conversion kit for the BT5, and I'm gonna be showing pictures of it. It's gonna be gonna do a feature of it in the magazine too, maybe in the next month or so. It's probably one of the best printed things I've ever seen. And I've seen a lot of stuff that's been 3D printed. No lines or nothing, zero, even on the rounded turret, it's amazing. I cannot tell you the amazingness, if that's a word, of what this BT5 conversion is. I even told him I messaged him back, I'm like, Chris, it's amazing, amazing, it's fucking amazing, and I have to say the F word because that's how amazing it is. So again, thank you, Christopher, for sending me that conversion kit. Um, I can't wait to get into it. I got the the late Hobby Boss BT2, so I'm ready to 35th scale or yeah, 35th scale. Oh man, it'll be great. Well, there is no um quarter scale version, so even if he made the conversion in another scale like that, you wouldn't have anything to do it on. I guess you could do one for like the UM version of the BT. I don't know if Christopher wants to do that, but Chris, this was it was amazing, so I need to say that. So I'll just lead off. So it's on my bench. I've been doing um, I'm almost done building the JS2 for Rye Fields. I did a preview in the last issue of MMI. There's gonna be a big feature of it in the next issue. I'm just finishing up all the photo edge, and it's a lot of photo edge in an upgrade set, two full frets, full fenders. It's a lot of work. Um, I try to build it the way they intended it to be built because I want to try to show it the way Rye Fields other people will build it, kind of. So sometimes when I do things um like that, people go, wow, I I built it, but you did it a little different. And I'm like, because I changed it up a little bit. Um sometimes I gotta tell myself, especially when I'm building something out of the box, even though I do add things, I gotta try to really keep things the way they are on the kit if I want it to be true to what the kit is. Also doing that auto blender, the Darius miniatures I've been painting, um, which has been a lot of fun. So I I finally got all the washes and and detail washes on that. Those little Darius miniatures, those wedgies that they do kind of were like, I guess we'll and I'll give full props to Christopher Morasco is something that he kind of originated years ago. These wedgies where it's like the the models like cut in half and stuff.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:27

Cool, man. I love them.

SPEAKER_09 1:24:28

Yeah, I got a few of them. I got a KV2, I got uh a Panther 3, a couple other ones. I'm doing this the auto blinder blender, whatever you want to call it, AB41. A lot of fun, man. It's all like very little parts to put on, so it's like you gotta really be careful like it's a really good test of the airbrush.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:44

You're painting, you're not building.

SPEAKER_09 1:24:46

You're painting this one's all painting, really. And it was and it was great to paint the groundwork and paint all like the dairy cans, and you're spraying these. I'm I'm doing this with no masks on, so it's a lot of you know good hand coordination with the airbrush, and uh, I really enjoyed it. I'm gonna be going up to some chipping and more weathering. And uh, my good friend Chris Greater from Greater Woodworking, maybe we'll get Chris Greater's AB spot in this episode. Um, is making a base specifically that for me, so I can bring it to a show, not to enter, but for my display. So I'm looking forward to that. This is only for me, this isn't meant for publication or nothing. This is just something to do. So that's what's on my bench right now. You mean a hobby? The hobby, exactly.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:26

You're embracing the hobby.

SPEAKER_09 1:25:27

I'm embracing the hobby. So, Mr. Donati, we're gonna go to you, Mr. Donati. What is on the bench? Well, god Christ, what what's what is on the bench right now? It could be anything. You finished a bunch of shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:38

Yeah, I just finished my first car ever.

SPEAKER_09 1:25:40

I did the uh 35th scale Bandai Batmobile from uh The Batman with Robert Patterson, which is I love that movie.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:47

Yeah, I've told some people, I said that's one of the best car scenes uh in years.

SPEAKER_09 1:25:52

Oh, the one scene with the the penguin, that music, dude. In IMAX, that was amazing. Yes, it was.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:58

Oh, I loved it. I bought the movie for Christmas, and then uh I got the kit for 26 bucks. It was a opened version. Somebody bought it on Amazon thinking it was like a die cast or something. So $60 off, I'll take it.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:12

That's a hell of a deal because that's that's what distracted me from buying it, was it was too expensive for what I was doing.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:18

Yeah, yeah, no. $26, Robbie. So I you did good. Right now, I'm actually doing the Robbie did the 48th scale, but I'm doing the 35th scale Bronco SU 152 or the the KV14, so the early uh SU 152. What a great kit. Absolutely love it. It comes with an engine, so Mikey Outlaw, I wired the engine.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:42

Did you get the fucking firing order right? Uh yes. Oh, okay. Yeah, no, you didn't.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:48

Who the hell's got the firing order for this thing? Uh yeah, no, spectacular kit. I really like it. Nicely detailed, the gun's great. If I can get it done for August, I think I'll bring it with me to uh Internationals. I think I I I wasn't gonna enter, but I think I'll bring a couple of kits just for the hell of it. And uh but yeah, so the Bronco. I'm really grooving on the big green things from Russia right now. So the Bronco kit, I'll do a few of those. Um Rob knows I'm obsessing over that RFM uh Joseph Stalinum definitely on the list for uh International. So uh Tooch, what do you got on the bench, buddy?

SPEAKER_10 1:27:25

I actually have and I know I'm gonna get heckle for this from Rob Rev. I have a 75mm Rev War American soldier base painted and ready.

SPEAKER_09 1:27:35

You're doing a good job on it.

SPEAKER_10 1:27:36

Yeah, you sent me what do you mean I'm doing a good job? I haven't done anything to it. It's sitting on the bench, it's prime.

SPEAKER_09 1:27:40

Yeah, but you can't do it. You're doing a good job on it. You showed me yesterday. You had it all you know, all cleaned up and primed. You're doing a good job on it. Okay, I'm sorry. You haven't finished it yet, so I don't know how great of a job it's gonna end up being. But right now, you're doing it, you know, your prep. I saw you getting cleaning it up. You know, what are you gonna tell you? Tooch, who made it? Because the molds look really nice, the molds.

SPEAKER_10 1:28:00

Are really good. There was some gap issues with the arms and some of the like, but you know, that is what it is because you know you got to deal with shrinkage. Um, feral miniature, uh, feral feral miniature.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:11

I don't deal with shrinkage at all.

SPEAKER_10 1:28:12

Ugh.

SPEAKER_12 1:28:13

Yeah, I start in a naturally small state.

SPEAKER_10 1:28:15

Yeah, wait, wait. Uh, you you do have to when you're growing certain weeds in your backyard, you gotta dry them to get to a to a point so they do shrink.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:22

That's the truth. There is some shrinkage there that happens. You're right.

SPEAKER_10 1:28:25

I just I just finished a figure, a German figure for the German bicycle, the Victoria with the uh metal wheels with the springs that uh appeared in the the bicycle itself appeared in the June, and an unpainted figure appeared uh in the issue of MMI, but uh I finally got that finished. It took me two and a half months, which means I think I put like 15 hours of bench time in and over two and a half months to get it done. I'm doing a super secret group build. We're doing Corsairs any size, so I've got everything just about done on subassembly. It's gonna be the first plane that's not a World War I plane because I've done one. It's gonna be probably the first World War II plane I've done since 1991. Molded or not? Uh no, it's not folded. The wings are molded solid, so it's it's that. So I wanted to do that. And I have a few Corsairs in the stash, including uh 32nd and 48th. But um, yeah, no, go into the Victoria. I went to a Rev War figure because A, it's that time of year. I should I and I have only done two and I gave those away. So gifts. So I want to do one for me, and this one I'm planning out very carefully. But you you were saying about the War One figure I the when I finished at Adams. Justin, what do you got on the bench?

SPEAKER_12 1:29:41

Getting close, round in the last corner of the Tamia SDKFZ, as you Canadians would say it. Triple two, the 222 armored car. A few odds and ends to touch up on this thing, but it's just about done. Just ordered a couple of figures from Alpine, uh, some uh German Dak figures. A little vignette, I think, on that sucker. Did this thing up in uh desert sand colors and whatnot. And uh actually, as we're recording, I'm modeling now. I'm hobbying as we speak. I'm working on uh the posse having a uh Star Wars group build. And I I had uh for Father's Day, my daughter got me one of those little AT freaking ATAT ST, whatever the hell it is from the tiny fucking looked way bigger in your pictures. Yeah, there were like eight eight pieces to it. Okay, uh now it is it's it's the one from the new new series, uh the newest. Oh it's got the extra long neck and shit. Yeah, I you know, the droopy jowls and whatnot. So, yeah, so I I snapped that together for a little glue on some some spots where it was a little loosey-goosey, but I've just been uh dry brushing that while we're talking, and then I had a I guess it's probably about 48 scale. It's that Star Wars gaming series. Can't think of what it was called. What is that? Um Legion.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:00

If you have to ship, it's it ain't 48 scale, it's like one through. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_12 1:31:05

This is the um this is uh this guy, the speeder bike.

SPEAKER_10 1:31:08

Yeah, it's the gaming scales. Yeah, it's the gaming scale speeder bike. How do you love the molding on those kits?

SPEAKER_12 1:31:14

Uh I mean he's he's a little stumpy, you know, but again, it's you know, like his his arms and legs seem a little shortened.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:22

He's separate from the model and the atoms.

SPEAKER_12 1:31:24

Yeah, he's uh it goes on the bike separately. Uh, but this has been sitting in my in my little area over here to my right for a while now. Figured why not? Let me just throw some paint on that guy for the the Posse Star Wars group build. So while we're talking here, I'm just fiddling around with some thin paints and some dry brushing, and that's what I'm doing.

SPEAKER_09 1:31:44

Rob Adams.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:45

Well, I uh decided to conquer something that was pissing me off, which was on the F-35, which was the the decals. They didn't work out so well. I spent a lot of hours, probably at least eight, fixing the decals, and then sprayed the clear coat on them tonight, and apparently it looks like it's working out well. So I'm all of a sudden slightly motivated to finish this project now because you know my idea worked.

SPEAKER_09 1:32:14

So nah, we talked about that. I'm glad you're doing it.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:32:17

So I'm glad you're getting it done.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:19

I can't leave this thing just fucking sitting, man. You know, I'm so close, right? So and again, yes, thank you, Rev, for getting that for me as a gift. I appreciate it. Yeah, it was a great it was a great present, and I will finish it. All right.

SPEAKER_09 1:32:36

Well, I'm I'm glad you're getting it done. All right, so do we want to do upcoming shows? I guess we'll do a couple upcoming shows for people, but before we do that, we will go to one more ad spot again, and we'll do this one for guideline publications and military motorcrypt international.

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SPEAKER_09 1:34:16

Alright, we're back, and we are gonna go to upcoming shows. And the first show I'm gonna announce here, this is actually pretty cool because they actually have a description of the event on here, which I'm not gonna read all of it, but I think it's pretty cool. This is called the Americana R12 Regional Con. And it's on July 18th from 9 o'clock to 5 o'clock. And it's at the Havlak Tourist and Event Center. It's 201 Tourist Center Drive in Havlak, North Carolina, 28532. And it's a region 12 show in the Carolinas, and it's hosted by the IPMS Eastern Carolina Plastic Modelers. But they have a thing over here about the event, and that very rarely do you see this. It says 2026 R12 Regional Con will be produced and hosted by Eastern Carolina Plastic Modelers to celebrate America's inspiration and innovation. The theme will be iconic American development, such as the Model T and the USS Uh Nautilus, the SSN 571. That's pretty cool. They and they have a whole bunch of other stuff here that I'm not gonna read at all, but very rarely do you see like a description of it and stuff. All right, so the next show is I guess a car show for you, Justin. And this is called The Summer N L. Very very original. And it says the theme is Road Racing Through the Ages, featuring Formula One, Can Am IndyCar, SCCA, NASCAR, and more. All right. And this is on August 2nd, 2026, from 8:30. The show the listing here, the show goes from 8 30 a.m. to 12 30 p.m. So they're done by noon. I doubt that's the time, but it is on August 2nd. It's located at the Algonquin Township Building, 3702 U.S. Highway 14 in Crystal Lake, Illinois, 60014. I think we've met we've read this before. When I see Crystal Lake, I'm like, is this Crystal Lake Jersey? Is Jason gonna be there? This is a region 5 Midwest show, and it's hosted by the GTR Auto Modelers. Okay, and that's on August 2nd. RPMS USA 2026 National Convention. All right, and this is in Fort Wayne, and it is on August 5th, and it goes to August 8th, and it is at the Grand Wayne Convention Center on 120 West Jefferson Boulevard in Fort Wayne, Indiana, 46802, and it's hosted by the Great Lakes IPMS Club. Oh, there's a lot of hosting clubs here because it's like the whole region's hosting it. Not gonna read them all. And John Figueroa is the contact person. And again, this is from August 5th to August 8th in Fort Wayne, Indiana, the IPMS Nationals. Me and Tooch went to the show last year in Virginia, which was pretty good. We were only there for a little while. I would be interesting. And so is Justin. I want to I want to see that. Um well I I want I mean, I like we we were down there together, I should say. And um, we shall see how uh Frankie Donati represents himself at the show. Justin, you got a show you want to talk about. What is it? I've got a show.

SPEAKER_12 1:37:29

It's it's a little ways out there, but I wanted to just mention it now so that people can uh potentially get a build going for the show. This is from Keith McGregor. He's been a uh longtime car show, car modeling show podcast listener, just become friends with this guy with the Model Car Mania Overlap. Uh, but his club, the Stateline Area Modelers, have SamCon 26. That's coming up. It's like I said, it's a ways out there. It's October 3rd, Sunday, the 3rd of October, uh, out in uh wherever the hell Stateline Modelers are, because it's not on his oh wait, here we go. It's uh East Main Street in Durand, Illinois. The reason why I wanted to mention this now is so that if anybody wants to get involved, they're having a special B-17 Flying Fortress tribute as part of their show. It's a special category. So if nobody here, or if anybody that wants to go to the show has not started a B-17, you can still get one built and uh put it in as part of their special category.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:32

Yeah, just throw one of those together, you know.

SPEAKER_12 1:38:34

Well, you know what? They make 72nd scale ones that aren't super duper complicated, so but uh Samcon 26, October 3rd, for Mr. Keith McCaregan.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:45

Nice.

SPEAKER_09 1:38:48

All right, so one last thing, social media shout-outs, and we'll kind of wrap this up today. So uh let's do our social media shout-out. So Mr. Steve Santucci, who is your social media shout-out for this show?

SPEAKER_10 1:39:02

Mine is Lucas Zero. He had uh published uh about a month ago, uh Garford Poutoluv, the Copper State kit. Uh he has it in incredible green colors here. It's a green camouflage, it's like light green and in a darker green. It's I just love the color. Uh it's uh Moscow 1919 135th scale. The figure looks great. His whole presentation, simple, uh uh tight fitting on the base, uh, nice angles. But this uh Garfer Putolov in Moscow Colors 1919 is fantastic.

SPEAKER_09 1:39:33

I see it. Man, you didn't I see that you you shared it on the page, it's really, really nice.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:40

Yeah, it's really nice.

SPEAKER_09 1:39:41

Yeah, what is what a nice job. I it really is nice. I like him leaning on the car. That is so did you build? Have you built this?

SPEAKER_10 1:39:48

I have mine, mine's pre-shaded. I haven't painted it yet. Uh it's pre-shading.

SPEAKER_09 1:39:54

Yeah, really nice job. Well, he didn't post it on our page, you just shared it on our page, it's it's on the compostate, right? Yeah, really, really nice job. Really nice job. All right, Mr. Frankie Donati, who is your social media shout-out?

SPEAKER_02 1:40:07

So mine's also on our page. Uh, actually, just a recent joiner of the Insanity Podcast Facebook group, Todd Schmidt. Oh, you son of a what I liked is that Todd, you know, he's like, Well, you know, here's some stuff. And he he actually painted some miniatures for uh the game expeditions 1920. And he's just reposted uh what he did with the bases. And his paint job on these little game miniatures are absolutely fantastic. They look great. It's got a real steampunk sort of industrial vibe to them. He didn't build them, he just painted them. But man, his paint job on these was fantastic. And I mean I know Todd does cars, I've seen some of his other builds. He did a silver Shelby Mustang or something like that. Look great. But Todd, uh great work on your expedition's 1920. Tabletop pieces, they look awesome, man.

SPEAKER_12 1:41:01

And it's an honorable mention from me because it got stole because I actually had those all selected as well.

SPEAKER_09 1:41:09

All right, do you have a do you have a couple of things?

SPEAKER_12 1:41:11

I've got I've got my uh my secondary, my backup.

SPEAKER_09 1:41:14

All right, so Justin, who is your backup? Because you kind of picked the same one as Frankie.

SPEAKER_12 1:41:19

Yes, you know, it's only technically a backup because this work is phenomenal. But uh, right from our page, and I'm pretty sure he posted it in the Model Car Mania page as well. Chris Black Williams. He posted up a 64 Impala SS with suicide doors, a moonroof, and a see-through trunk floor. This freaking thing is spectacular. Go check it out.

SPEAKER_09 1:41:41

Excellent. Okay. Short and sweet, Rob Adams. Who is your social media shout-out?

SPEAKER_07 1:41:47

Well, I picked Gordon Weeb. He's a diehard fan, and so love you, Gordon. I know you're gonna be listening.

SPEAKER_12 1:41:54

Yeah, but it probably won't be until Friday. On his way home from work on Saturday.

SPEAKER_07 1:41:59

Yeah, yeah, well, he's always he's always on his way home from work, or he got he got off work early, or whatever the fuck it is. But yeah, it happened. Either way, that guy embraces a lot of different genres. He's in my realm, right? And hobbies. And hobbies. And so he did a bunch of pre-shating on a fucking Millennium Falcon. I'm not sure what scale it was. I was just trying to look it up and my phone wasn't cooperating. But I think he had MOC in the description. I don't know what that stood for.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:29

It's the MPC Millennium Falcon, and that's the one.

SPEAKER_07 1:42:32

Oh, MPC.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:33

Yeah, it's the MPC which I still what scale is it?

SPEAKER_07 1:42:36

What scale is it then? 72nd, one 144th? I don't I I don't know.

SPEAKER_09 1:42:40

No, it's bigger than that, I think.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:42

It's bigger than that, it's 18 inches, and the box for the kit doesn't tell you a scale, so it it's an MPC scale.

SPEAKER_07 1:42:47

Hold on. So studio scale. Yeah, there you go. Basically 148th. Okay. Either way, it's big and he's embracing the idea of like pre-shating. This is what the the whole post was about. Like he's just putting in the pre-shating around all the details. I love it. And uh listen, Gordon, when you're pre-shating, you don't need to fucking worry about it being super tight or neat, because that'll actually hinder you. Make it flat and spread out. But great job. I can't wait to see the top code go on and see how that works out. So that's my social media shout-out.

SPEAKER_09 1:43:24

Alright, well, I'm gonna give a shout out to Dave Lavaza. He posted on our page, he posted a to Cromwell Mark IV in the British Seventh Army Division on June 7th. He kind of used a photo of it coming out of like a transport on the beaches.

SPEAKER_12 1:43:39

That's funny. I was actually gonna pick that one too.

SPEAKER_09 1:43:41

He did a great job on this. I needed to give him a shout-out because he's saying that this is his second model in 20 years after a 20-year break. And he did a lot of photo etch on this. I think it's the to me. He didn't say what kit it was, but I'm thinking it's the Tamil K. Oh, yeah, it is the Tamil Crown. ABPE, our model track, Sharika Toe cables, black dog storage, Tomia Mini Arp, hands-off figures with haunted heads. He did a great job. The build was excellent with all the photo etch, and then the paint job was pretty damn good itself, too, with all the figures. So, Dave, you are getting my shout out for the show. You did a great job, and thank you for posting on the Insanity page, and we do appreciate that. So, on that note, we're gonna try to wrap this up. We've been going on for a while. This was a fun show again. This was our lead-in to our 50th episode show next time we record. Dave Grummet will be on the show as one of our guests. We're also gonna have other people on because it's kind of like a little milestone show for us. Like I said, prior like the beginning, we don't release shows every two weeks. I don't think Rob Adams can handle it. It's hard enough to get him to do once every three weeks. Ah, fuck, you're fine. But I think that our format and release schedule, it just works for us. And again, there is no urgency sometimes to get, you know, you want to get a show out there because you want to keep it going, but you also don't feel like you need to release every two weeks. God bless you.

SPEAKER_07 1:45:03

And here's the thing it's like what I've always believed is that if all of us can't be present for the show, then the show doesn't fucking happen.

SPEAKER_09 1:45:11

Well, you weren't on the last show, you forgot that we were recording you weren't on. Justin wasn't on the one prior or whatever. I know, so there are two.

SPEAKER_07 1:45:19

It does happen, but it's not like, oh, it's two weeks and you can't be on. Yeah, we don't make it a usual thing. No, right.

SPEAKER_09 1:45:25

We try to get everybody here. Um, this was a good show. This is fun. So um the next time, I don't know, Frankie. Well, we'll record before we'll record the 50th soon. We'll probably have it recorded before we will definitely have it recorded before Mr. Dave Goldfinch from the On the Bench podcast comes to my house for a cut a night that I'm gonna pick him up before he goes to Mr. Dave Knight Esquire's house for the IPMS National. So we're gonna spend a day together. I gotta bring that guy out for dinner. I'm sure we'll get in trouble or do something very bad.

SPEAKER_12 1:45:58

Why not plan to record that night and have a special guest interlude?

SPEAKER_09 1:46:02

Where am I gonna have him? Sit next to me, right on your lap there, big fella. Have have have the pod father sit on my lap, tell me a story. Absolutely. We'll talk share a microphone. We'll share the microphone.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:13

There's two of you in the room already. Another one won't matter.

SPEAKER_09 1:46:16

It's true. My house is haunted right now, man. A lot of shit going on over here. If you watch, like I said, you watch the live cast, there's some shit going on. Liz Rob Adams doesn't know where he is right now. This guy is totally oblivious to his surroundings right now. For God's sake.

SPEAKER_07 1:46:29

What are you talking about? It's that time of the night.

SPEAKER_09 1:46:34

Um, I'm I actually did pretty good. This was actually a nice fun episode. I'm sure it's gonna edit hopefully into a nice show. Who knows? We might have to trash this episode, like the Brad Belstrom episode that was never released. That'll be funny. Maybe one day we'll release that episode.

SPEAKER_07 1:46:48

No, I've never even been that bad. Yeah, Brad was really bad. Yeah, that was a bad thing.

SPEAKER_09 1:46:54

Um, I don't know how many outtakes. We didn't have a lot of outtakes for this show. I think uh might have to try to maybe do an AI thing this for this one. But again, I gotta get that quarter scale episode out too before Stan Spooner comes to my house and beats me up. Uh, before we go, Mr. Justin Ryan, do you have anything to say?

SPEAKER_12 1:47:10

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, podcasters of all ages. If you've enjoyed the what you've heard here, head on over to modelpodcast.com, which is a consortium website where you can find all your favorite podcasts from all the favorite genres, as well as long form and short form blogs if you know how to read. If you don't know how to read, you can pretend and look smart. Guys, we'll catch you next time.

SPEAKER_09 1:47:33

Yeah, you can also catch the Model Call Mania podcast, as well as the Quarter Scale Man is podcast on the insanity umbrella, so you can catch those shows. We're trying to release more episodes on those. So again, Model Carl Mania just did their tenth show, which was good. Also, make sure to check out the Modeling Insanity TV YouTube channel where we do those live casts at least once a week, and it's a lot of fun. It's sort of like the podcast, but live, and we always have a guest on or guests showing their work and we talk about it, which is a lot of fun. So if you haven't checked it out, go on the modeling and sanity TV YouTube channel to check it out. It's always fun. So on that note, we are going to sign off because I am tired and my ass is killing me.

SPEAKER_07 1:48:13

Yes, your ass is always fucking killing you.

SPEAKER_09 1:48:16

And I gotta get back on the room, I gotta finish some work, I gotta do some work for about an hour. All right, so for the Modeling Insanity Podcasts, I'm your host, Rob Riff. I'm with my co-host, Mr. Justin Ryan.

SPEAKER_12 1:48:26

Have a wonderful week, wonderful evening, and get back to your bench and don't forget, lift those weights. Frankie Donati. Thanks for spending some time with us. Mr.

SPEAKER_09 1:48:35

Rob Adams.

SPEAKER_07 1:48:36

Thank you, and have a good evening, everyone. Mr.

SPEAKER_09 1:48:39

Steve Santucci.

SPEAKER_07 1:48:40

Build what you love, love what you build.

SPEAKER_09 1:48:42

All right, guys, thanks for listening. Be safe, and we will catch you on Thursday.

SPEAKER_06 1:49:00

Well, we made it to the end. Somehow. I spent the last two hours listening to grown adults explain why they need 17 different hobbies. You know what normal people do when they're done with work? They sit on the couch. Not this bunch. Rob Riv is heading back to the basement to see if any ghost left him a voicemail. If that doesn't work, he'll interrogate a cricket. Justin Ryan is probably apologizing to a bonsai tree because he trimmed one leaf too short. The tree's in therapy now. Rob Adams is on his way home to check on the garden. Yeah, we're all calling it a garden, Rob. Whatever helps you sleep at night. Frank Donati is probably walking around this studio making sure the fire extinguishers are up to code before he'll leave. Frank, if the building hasn't burned down during this episode, I think we're gonna be okay. And Steve Stantucci, who knows where he is? He may be cataloging coins. He may be digging for colonial relics. He may be wearing a tricorn hat arguing with a guy named Nigel about 18th-century musket drill. At this point, Steve doesn't have hobbies. He has downloadable content. As for the rest of you, remember, it's okay to have hobbies. Just don't let them get so out of control that your basement looks like a paranormal investigation headquarters, your garage looks like a botanical laboratory, your kitchen table looks like Mr. Miyagi's workbench. Your living room looks like a fire marshal's office, or your spare bedroom looks like the Smithsonian had a yard sale. Now, all of you get out of here. You've all got tiny models to build, weird hobbies to obsess over, and apparently not enough hours in the day to do either one properly. So I bid you farewell, you bunch of lovable maniacs, and we'll see you next time for the 50th episode of the Modeling Insanity Podcast. Assuming these lunatics aren't distracted by another side quest.