Unlock the secrets of Rian Johnson's "Looper" as we navigate through the perplexing world of a killer whose targets are sent from the future. Strap in, listeners – Jason and I, Jesse, promise a wild ride dissecting the mind-bending science fiction that artfully merges genres and keeps you guessing until the very last frame. From the engaging performances of Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Bruce Willis to the film's nuanced visual storytelling, we leave no stone unturned in this intricate cinematic fusion of western, noir, and futuristic motifs.
Ever pondered the psychological toll of time travel or the ethical quandaries of one's actions echoing through the past and future? Our discussion ventures into these depths, examining the visceral transformation of Gordon-Levitt under prosthetics and the authenticity of action sequences that push the boundaries of the genre. We laugh at offbeat behind-the-scenes moments and ponder the significance of set designs, while our debate loops from the gritty streets of Shanghai to the rustic charm of a lone farmstead, all within the context of Johnson's crafty narrative.
As the episode reaches its crescendo, we tackle the film's poignant themes and the complex dynamics among the characters. The finale leaves us breathless, dissecting the climactic scenes with fervor, and we hint at a tantalizing cinematic prospect involving none other than Alec Baldwin and Anthony Hopkins. Join us for this exhilarating examination of "Looper," where every turn is a new revelation, and every revelation a step closer to cinematic enlightenment.
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Unlock the secrets of Rian Johnson's "Looper" as we navigate through the perplexing world of a killer whose targets are sent from the future. Strap in, listeners – Jason and I, Jesse, promise a wild ride dissecting the mind-bending science fiction that artfully merges genres and keeps you guessing until the very last frame. From the engaging performances of Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Bruce Willis to the film's nuanced visual storytelling, we leave no stone unturned in this intricate cinematic fusion of western, noir, and futuristic motifs.
Ever pondered the psychological toll of time travel or the ethical quandaries of one's actions echoing through the past and future? Our discussion ventures into these depths, examining the visceral transformation of Gordon-Levitt under prosthetics and the authenticity of action sequences that push the boundaries of the genre. We laugh at offbeat behind-the-scenes moments and ponder the significance of set designs, while our debate loops from the gritty streets of Shanghai to the rustic charm of a lone farmstead, all within the context of Johnson's crafty narrative.
As the episode reaches its crescendo, we tackle the film's poignant themes and the complex dynamics among the characters. The finale leaves us breathless, dissecting the climactic scenes with fervor, and we hint at a tantalizing cinematic prospect involving none other than Alec Baldwin and Anthony Hopkins. Join us for this exhilarating examination of "Looper," where every turn is a new revelation, and every revelation a step closer to cinematic enlightenment.
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Hello and welcome to the we Recommend Podcast, a movie podcast where every week we recommend a movie for you to watch and then come back here and listen to us discuss. I'm Jesse, I'm Jason the Blunderbuss. Time travel has not yet been invented, but 30 years from now it will have been. This week we're covering Looper the best line I could think of for whatever off the top of my head. So before we get into the film, I want to start off with something. If you want to send us an email about this movie or the next movie or previous movies we've done, or you got any questions that you want to ask us, leave us an email at werecommendmailbagatgmailcom and we're going to kind of go straight into this now. So this wasn't the first time that you saw this movie, right? No, the second, second time, did you still enjoy it? Well, yeah, I can't remember if last week I said anything about the first time I saw it, but I was late for a project with a guy that I yeah, you did mention that.
Speaker 1:It was like 30 minutes late before that. Because of that, I worked with him too, so that made it even more fun, because then I had to see him all the time and he did not talk to me much after that. That's awkward. Yeah, it was the worst. So what do you like about this movie, man?
Speaker 2:I like the futuristic. Like then it's almost like near futuristic.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a weird mashup of genres. Old Emilia is just a character drama with sci-fi, western, time travel, it's all this. It kind of kicks ass. It's a little cheesy in some parts and silly and funny and just, I love new movies, I love new ideas. It's so fun, like, what a clever idea to just.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, oh well, what if we have where I don't know in the future? You can't kill people because everybody knows where everybody is and we're all tracked, or whatever. So they have to send people back in time and have themselves kill each other to end the whole loop. What? That's insane. That's such a good idea. Hell yeah, it's so smart.
Speaker 2:I would say to myself if I went back in time God, that's my favorite scene of the movie.
Speaker 1:It's like a classic diner scene that you'd see in Heat or any of these other movies Thief, things like that. It's like, oh, the hero and villain meet. Oh, they're the same person.
Speaker 2:That's the same dude.
Speaker 1:But then of course they throw a kid blue to make it as like. Well, there's technically a third guy who just sucks at everything. I love that guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So the movie is directed by Ryan Johnson. You may know him from movies like Brick.
Speaker 2:The Brothers Bloom.
Speaker 1:I haven't really watched both of those all the way through. But he also did movies, I don't know, like the Last Jedi. You know the Star Wars movie ever heard of it and we might not get listeners because people hate Ryan Johnson for that movie. I don't know. Knives Out One and Glass Onion heard of him. That's one of the best filmmakers that we have right now.
Speaker 2:I don't care what y'all saw, the Last Jedi was the only one of those movies that I've seen You've never seen.
Speaker 1:Knives Out. No, I have seen that. Okay, I was like, oh my gosh, I will jump over this. They ruled. The movie star is Joseph Gordon Levitt as Joe, Bruce Willis as Old Boy Joe, Emily Blunt, Sarah Paldano as Seth, Noah Segan as Kid Blue and Piper Peropo as Susie. And then you got Pierce Gaggon as Sid and Jeff Daniels as Abe Boy. That kid as Sid huh Kid looks creepy as hell.
Speaker 2:I want to find that the name of the actor that came to assassinate the family, oh, jesse.
Speaker 1:Is that his name? The guy that randomly comes in that's looking for Joe when they're at the farm? That's Garrett Dillahunt. He looks, so he's in. He was in this sitcom that I watched.
Speaker 2:It was so funny it was about. It was all about raising. I think it was called Raising Hope.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, Is that comedy? I think I know what you're talking about. I've heard of it.
Speaker 2:He's the best character in the show.
Speaker 1:Let's see. Let's see if I can find it.
Speaker 2:He's the dad. He was so fucking funny.
Speaker 1:He's in a like a ton of stuff.
Speaker 2:This old lady would like make him take his shirt off when he mowed the lawn for her. Yeah, raising Hope. Yeah, that's it, man that has 88 episodes.
Speaker 1:I did not know that movie had that many or that show had that many episodes Cool. So I guess we'll start off and we'll get into some facts here. So Joseph Gordon Levitt whenever he was falling off the fire, escape that scene well, the day that they filmed it was his 30th birthday, and so they left him hanging up on stunt wires to and started all singing happy birthday to him whenever they did it. So they kind of like set him up to sing happy birthday and then they also wheeled out a cake as he was just hanging above it. How awesome is that. So it's so funny. Like Ryan Johnson and Joseph Gordon Levitt, they kind of started working together at the start of Ryan Johnson's career.
Speaker 2:So they're all friends yeah.
Speaker 1:And Ryan Johnson, or Joseph Gordon Levitt's, is in every single Ryan Johnson film, whether he's just like a bartender, a stormtrooper in the back or he's just in Glass Onion. Did you ever watch that? No, it's the Knives Out sequel. Well, in that movie there's a gong that happens on this island like every hour or whatever. That's Joseph Gordon Levitt's voice doing the gong. It's so great. It just seems like everybody loves Ryan Johnson's sets. They say he always makes it fun and like super professional, but like it never feels like you're working and you can tell through these movies because they're always so good. Sorry if you hate me for saying that about Ryan Johnson.
Speaker 2:What's it like to have a nice boss.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Well, it's like the difference, because we have, we have nice bosses until something happens that they don't like, and then it's just. Like you know, they don't pull any punches. That's what bosses are supposed to be. We're just a bunch of millennials who don't like working in bosses.
Speaker 2:Just show up like Gabe just comes out of nowhere and shoots us with a Nerf gun. I feel like that'd be a pretty cool ball. This is a nice change.
Speaker 1:What he didn't know is that we also all brought our Nerf guns and we're not taking it easy on them. So Joseph Gordon Levitt was fitted with prosthetics and studied Bruce Willis movies in order to play young Joe. He was so successful that Willis recognized his own mannerisms in their scenes together. Do you agree with that or not? Did you feel Bruce Willis inside of Joseph Gordon Levitt?
Speaker 2:No, I think they tried to make him more like him, like the white wife beater who was wearing. That's totally a Bruce Willis thing, definitely.
Speaker 1:I think they tried real hard, but I didn't really. What do you think of the prosthetic, though, because I know a lot of people push up against the prosthetic. But what are you talking about? Joseph Gordon Levitt's prosthetic Jaw, jaw and nose? Yeah, because he doesn't look like that at all.
Speaker 2:Oh well, I didn't realize that. Do you know what? Joseph?
Speaker 1:yeah, here let me show you a picture of what Joseph Gordon Levitt actually looks like. He's got a smaller face. Yeah, he doesn't look anything like that. He doesn't have that big of a jaw. Okay, joseph Gordon.
Speaker 2:Levitt yeah, I left my phone out. My wife is going to be pissed. That's what Joseph Gordon Levitt looks like. Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it looks nothing like him. He doesn't really look a lot like him in the movie, but I do think Joseph Gordon Levitt's performance in this is really great though. Hell yeah, I thought he. It's like he almost gets there. He doesn't fully. But I don't know Something about now that you just see CGI and it look bad and everybody be like that's CGI. And then the big podcast about people being like oh oh, it look bad, but it wasn't that bad. It's like dude, it looks like a completely different head on an old man's body.
Speaker 1:You know so and like I, just like it. It's fun. You know we did this all the time Two different people playing the same actor at different ages. So if you want to do it, just do it Like we're all smart. We're not dummies.
Speaker 2:I mean, it was cool, I didn't even.
Speaker 1:We literally did it for hundreds, a hundred years in filmmaking. We don't have to keep doing what we're doing now, like in the Mandalorian season two episode, where they bring spoilers, spoilers. The last episode of season two spoilers, spoilers, spoilers. When Luke comes in and saves Mando and the child and stuff.
Speaker 2:And it's.
Speaker 1:Luke Skywalker and it's like, at first it's like it's not too bad. Then he turns a little bit. It's like, oh my God, that doesn't look like anything. It's like, just hire a new guy and just do it, you know, like we don't have to do this, All right, anyway, so in the future, the Rainmaker's henchmen dress in black overcoats and wide grooming hats. During shots of Sid's boyhood room, a poster from Bad Bob and action figure on his desk wearing the same black coat and wide roomed house can be seen, because Sid is the guy that creates every, all the Gatman and everything throughout the years. So it's like this will look a little thing.
Speaker 1:It's almost like Labyrinth, where you see all their toys at the very beginning and then she goes into the world and you see everything that you see in Labyrinth. So a reoccurring motif in the film is clouds, including clouds in the skies, cigarette smoke, the dust cloud that Joe uses to defeat Kid Blue, and even cream report into black coffee. When Sid kills Jesse, the blood also has a cloud like appearance. This ties into the Rainmaker plot. Hell yeah, this is the Rainmaker. That was cool as fuck.
Speaker 2:I know, dude, that shot was like hell, yeah, let's go.
Speaker 1:We straight up out here exploding people. That's what I'm talking about, baby, I know, because it really doesn't come off as that type of movie. And then you're like, oh man, this kid can just. This could have turned into a horror movie called Wake.
Speaker 1:So the script originally called for Joe to move to Paris when he got older, which is why he spends the early scenes trying to learn French for Beatrix, which he says Beatrix weird, I feel like. However, ryan Johnson soon realized that they didn't have enough money to shoot in Paris. He considered using New Orleans to stand in for Paris, but rejected that idea. But the Chinese distributor for the film offered to pay for the crew to film in Shanghai and Johnson accepted, both because it solved Paris problem and because he felt Shanghai better reflected the future setting in the movie. This is one of the first movies that had China tie ends, because now, like in Marvel yeah, like Marvel, now they do it a lot or just big budget films, like, if you think about, like Godzilla movies they always have a really famous Chinese actor or Japan or wherever it's helped filming it, and this was one of the first movies to do that because China is such a huge distribution center for us. So just a little bit more, that's pretty neat and you're talking about his wife.
Speaker 2:Are you talking about his wife? I know Bruce Willis' wife.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:See the Okay.
Speaker 1:No, oh yeah, whenever he goes to China. Yeah, exactly, yeah, you got it. You know that. Yeah, I just got lost in what I was saying. So, according to director Ryan Johnson, noah Sagan, kid Blue, took several classes to learn how to spin his gun around his finger. Johnson told Entertainment Weekly that he filmed numerous takes for Sagan to spending the four pound gun, but ended up using the one where he nearly dropped it because Johnson just thought it was funny.
Speaker 2:It is funny.
Speaker 1:He literally helps build his character and he really wants it to just be good at everything and he sucks and screws up and it's great.
Speaker 2:I love Hinchmen that are bad yeah just trying to show off all the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and despite its unconventional narrative, looper was a commercial success, grossing over $176 million worldwide against a budget of $30 million. It's also a fun word to say Awesome, what Looper Looper, looper, looper. It sounds like.
Speaker 2:Looper yeah.
Speaker 1:Every time that it seemed like the plot was going into a loop or it's like oh, something is like. I look to Natalie Looper, it loops, we're looping, we got loops going.
Speaker 1:So this movie is a clever mixture of different time travel and doomsday type of thrillers like the dead zone and Terminator. It borrows from Terminator in that a character from the future is going back in time with the intention of killing another person to alter their future. It's like back to the future in that there are people from the future going into the past to right a wrong or prevent negative events in their own future. Also, there is the idea that certain choices will erase one's existence, which is in both movies. Further, the idea that their future self is confronting their former self and the two are fighting with and trying to manipulate each other is lifted straight from Biff's fight when he fights himself, and back to the future too. I love time travel movies Hell yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1:None of them make sense and it all, usually about halfway into a movie, is like no, this is impossible, this doesn't make sense anymore.
Speaker 2:But I don't care, I just like time travel movies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was like T2. Did you ever watch the movie Primer? It was like a super indie movie, very low budget, but it was the most realistic type of time travel movie, to the point where you're halfway through it and the dialogue is all dialogue. That is just very mathematical and this is about two people trying to figure out how to time travel. It's so confusing. So confusing Sounds interesting. It was at the last 20 minutes of the movie and I was like I don't know how we got here.
Speaker 1:I was like yeah, that's time travel. You're just never. It's going to be super hard to figure out, but those same guys worked on this film, which is really cool, and Emily Blunt revealed that she agreed to star in the movie after reading half the script. She didn't even know who her character was yet Just because she loved the movie so much. And it was just so cool that I was watching Emily Blunt movie in 2012 before she got super insanely famous, because I feel like everybody loves Emily Blunt now.
Speaker 1:Yeah she's great, I mean she's a new freaking Mary Poppins. God's sake, all right man. That's all the facts I got.
Speaker 2:Full of shotgun yeah.
Speaker 1:Her performance is kind of funny though, especially when she's about to shoot them. I have shot at six people this week, so good, all right, man, anything you want to talk about before we get into the film? No, let's do it All right, I can't remember at the moment so in the year 2044, we have. The film starts with a man named Joe checking his watch, which is the watch that you know the hand in the watch.
Speaker 1:You know what it goes in? No A loop, jesus Christ. Everybody's just crashing their cars. They're like, oh my God.
Speaker 2:He said it.
Speaker 1:So yes, we start with Joe. He's checking the watch, trying to learn, and he's also trying to learn French at the same time. He's really bad at it, obviously.
Speaker 2:Until he checks his.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it really is. I try to learn French on what is it Duolingo? I had to quit, I just couldn't. I couldn't speak it into country Way way. So he checks his watch again, then stems up with a gun and then a guy blindfolded and arms tied pops up and he shoots them. Great Freakin' star.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a good start, yeah.
Speaker 1:What's so bad for him? We learn through narration that time travel doesn't exist yet, but it does 30 years in the future. It's illegal, yeah. And then, like we learned that it's quickly outlawed, almost as soon as it comes into existence. I guess only the top crime organizations use it and in the future it's almost impossible to kill someone and get away with it, because they can track people and so if they kill someone they'll know who did it, I guess somehow. So they send people they want to kill back in time for the loopers to kill and dispose of the body, and on the body they have like silver bricks taped to their backs and that's how the loopers give hate. Just great. It's a huge like noir-esque, like narration dump which they always do in like older noir movies. Nice, it works, because movies also a noir movie During the narration, like noir steampunk, yeah. And during the narration we see Joe wrap up a body and take him to an incinerator. Just great.
Speaker 1:We cut to Joe at a diner where he tries his French with a waitress named Beatrix. I'm assuming that's why he's learning French, because he's like wow, this girl's French. I got to go to France, baby. And so after Joe heads into the city. It's a bit like we see that the city is. I love this. I absolutely love this. It's not completely unrealistic type of city, right Right. It's like I mean by now we should have like more futuristic looking stuff, but also having like the old timey or old timey like 2012 type of stuff still in to the future, which was really nice. That was cool. You could see it going too far with the futuristic stuff and be like that's impossible by 2044.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is kind of a middle stage, yeah, I still feel like we won't be there in 2044, but I just thought it looks really cool and I love that the tent because it's in Kansas City and it's rundown. So, as he's driving through the streets, this is a bunch of homeless people and some guys bus is broken down. A guy tries to steal his stuff and the guy immediately shoots him. So freaking good. We see that he's going to turn into silver at like a random place. He only turns in like two at a time, though, and then back out of his house we see him still learning French. He's getting ready to go out, and then we see him put most of his silver bricks into the floor safe. That's a cool safe. Yeah, I know I want a floor safe, just because I also would hide in it, because it'd be so cool. And so he's got out, he drives, and then we see him he like pulls off a sheet off this old like 1990.
Speaker 2:It's like a monster biota yeah.
Speaker 1:I love this so much. It's like this is the classic car I don't blame, I really love me otters, though Me otters are such little cool, cute cars. I mean, it was just so strange to me that they didn't choose Right, like a muscle car, anything else, I know the guy must just really like 90s movies and just saw his favorite movie stars.
Speaker 2:Drive me otters and you probably can't find. Like they probably don't make new cars now.
Speaker 1:No, I mean, they're all like hover cars and stuff and they look silly and like welded a bunch of garbors together.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And we'll meet Seth soon, who has a hover bike, and I love that. It just doesn't work.
Speaker 1:And I was like oh, that's probably why Joe likes older cars. It's like I know it will work, I know that I can just fix it if it doesn't work. I'm like this electrical floating hover car. How the hell do you fix this bike? Yeah, exactly, it's cool. So he drives an old me otter and he goes out into town. We meet Seth is yelling at a homeless guy, threatening to shoot him as he's walking close to him. I'm like I'm not fancy hover bike and it won't start. So he gets a ride from Joe and they go to the club together. We see Seth making a coin float with his hand. We learn that. 10%.
Speaker 2:That's one thing I think is really cool about this era, and I would be so jealous if I didn't have the TKG.
Speaker 1:Dude, I'd be so pissed off. But if I did I would flex it hard, even though all they can do is just float a coin in their hand.
Speaker 2:I know, but like that's all you see him doing, I wouldn't use it for every fucking thing.
Speaker 1:I guess that's all they can do. No, it's like it was, because he has this line where it's like, oh, we all thought we were going to have new superpowers, but it's all they can do is just float things a little bit of an above their hand, which is such a cool idea. I don't know Cause you give someone telekinesis in a movie and you're like, yeah, everybody's going to be just pushing each other around. Instead, it's like, no, everybody got this mutation, but it just it's not that great. It's like all we can do is lift a few things.
Speaker 2:It's like the evolution of humankind.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I learned that only 10% of the population have TK, but they can only slightly lift a coin. Like I said earlier, they go in the back way of a club and Joe meets this girl named Susie. He is wanting to spend the night with her, but she has already been bought out for the night because she's like a stripper slash prostitute. I guess she's odd and she you can obviously immediately tell it that he's like he's in love with her and she's in love with the stripper but she's just like dude.
Speaker 1:I got to work Like.
Speaker 1:I have a kid. You know which we'll learn soon. Is it his kid? No, I don't think so. So a guy calls for Joe, and this is where we learn why they're called loopers. A loopers agree that in the future they will be sent back to be killed by their younger selves. This is so crime syndicates can get rid of any trace that they worked with them. After they kill themselves, they get a golden payday and release from their contract and they party until they're for 30 years and they also get a golden show or not just a payday?
Speaker 1:No, but that's a really cool idea. It's just, I don't know how you just think of this idea. Oh, it's great.
Speaker 2:It sucks that they agree to it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, they really. He does have a line. It's like, yeah, we have no foresight, Everybody that does it. It's like, oh wait, in 30 years I'm going to die Yikes, which I don't know how their medical system works. But I mean, I just feel like they all seem pretty run down and they're getting telekinesis, probably because of some sort of radiation somewhere. So they'll probably all die by their.
Speaker 2:They probably think they're all going to die. It's not a bad life. Yeah, I guess If that's like the normal life.
Speaker 1:Most people barely make it to 60s. I mean, heck, why not try it? We see Joe and his friends. They start doing eye drugs and get lit.
Speaker 2:Yes, the eye drugs. What?
Speaker 1:are they even popping in there? Is this like a liquid form of like heroin?
Speaker 2:or cocaine Cinnamon, vising oh just dry eyes.
Speaker 1:I would just love it that guy was still around doing the same commercial except it's just with drugs instead of just vising.
Speaker 2:He's just eyes balled. His pupils are all dialed Dry eyes, the Bueller, the Bueller.
Speaker 1:So we see a montage of this happening over and over, almost like they're stuck in a loop. We get some dialogue, making it seem strange that so many loops are being closed at once, but it seems like every night there's a new party for someone that's loop is closed. Get loopy, yeah. Then we cut to Joe's sleeping. We hear it like desperate knocking at the door, but it's actually the window. It's Seth waiting at his window. He is in a panic. He says people are after him.
Speaker 1:We learn that Seth let his loop go. His older self was apparently humming a lullaby when he popped into existence and that was the same lullaby that Seth's mom as a child would seem to. So he immediately, like, stopped him. This calls Seth to stop and look at him. Older him tells him that a guy called the Rainmaker is closing all the loops at once in the future, 30 years from now. Then old Seth lets his route, or young Seth lets his loop run and get away. And now Seth is in trouble. So cool how they get him to come back, I know. So fucking cool. I know Joe says he will give him some money but he has to go. Then we hear the Gatman start knocking at the window. Man Seth is pleading with him, but then Joe decides to hide him in his floor. Safe Like what if they killed Joe and they never found the safe?
Speaker 2:That guy's just stuck in there. Yeah, just stuck in there forever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that would suck. So we see some men with old timey revolvers looking for him. They can't find him and take Joe to go see Abe. While waiting we learn a little bit about Kid Blue, who is talking about his revolver. This is the guy with the revolver at the beginning that we were talking about. He says it takes some skill to use versus a Blunderbuss, because Blunderbuss you can hit anything 15 feet away. After that you can't.
Speaker 2:But with his P-shooter you have to have an excellent aim. It is a very large gun.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And Blunderbuss might be the best name for a weapon. That's such a good name for it, right?
Speaker 1:But while Kid Blue is saying all this, he's twirling his gun and then he drops it for a second and then Joe makes off an offhand remark about shooting his other foot off, because I guess he blue shot his foot off from earlier.
Speaker 2:He hit some of the back of the door.
Speaker 1:Then this pisses Kid Blue off and he's threatening to shoot him and at first Joe's like, oh, you're not going to do it. But then he cocks the gun or pulls the hammer back and then he's like, oh wait, he actually might do it, this guy's crazy. But then the door opens hits him in the head.
Speaker 1:He shoots his gun off and Abe comes out. What did you shoot your other foot off to so funny? Love it. And so we meet Abe for the first time, who I guess is like a father figure too Kind of everybody underneath him. Essentially, the vibe I get off is especially from Kid Blue and Joe. We learn that Abe is from the future, 30 years from the future, who was sent back in time by the crime syndicate to run the loopers, but because of that he found it as too boring or whatever. So he started a group called the Gatman and now he runs the whole city. Joe has this line any other city and that would be impressive. So good, Abe seems Abe actually wrote down. After that Abe seems chill. He starts talking about the way he's dressed, because he's dressed kind of like a cool guy back in the day in the films. Abe says the movies that you're addressing are just copying other movies and then he tells them to just be new, be something new, he's got the leather jacket with the motorcycle things or whatever.
Speaker 1:And I love it because it's kind of like also a comment on the same movie that we're watching, right, because the whole movie is just taking ideas from older movies and then making them something new. So it's almost kind of like Abe talking to Ryan Johnson do something new, dude. But sometimes by taking older things and changing them a little bit, makes it new, like the movie Looper. I feel like I'm talking in a loop here. So Abe is sure Seth came to visit him. Abe says that he isn't going to cut him up or anything. He's just going to sit and talk and by the end he'll give up his friend and that'll be it. But also at this point when he's talking, like I noticed the hammer sitting on his table, oh yeah, and eventually we'll see him.
Speaker 2:That fucking sucks.
Speaker 1:Right. Abe talks about how he took Joe in. Joe was a kid alone on the streets. This is like selling things to get money. Abe says he could see all the bad version of his life. So what did he do? He changed it, he made it better. He put a gun in his hand.
Speaker 2:When he went back To change things for him. So, but he was from the future.
Speaker 1:Yeah, whenever he came back to start the loopers he met Joe as a kid, so he came back like way before Got you All this.
Speaker 2:But he did, he know him in the future? No, I don't think so.
Speaker 1:I don't think so Because I think he can't. He wouldn't have known him in the future because he was sent back before any of this happened.
Speaker 2:I'm lost.
Speaker 1:All right, guys, don't worry about it, I just love. It's like I saw the bad version of your life, so I changed it and put a gun in your hands. It's such a good life. I should have done that at the very beginning.
Speaker 2:I should just give everyone a gun and then see how that turns out.
Speaker 1:They did in this movie. Abe says he isn't gonna break him, only set him back a little bit. He says if Joe gives him a Like, joe has to give him up or they'll take half his stash. Joe asked if they're gonna kill him and he says no, I'm killing Seth. That is, he says that he was like no, we can't kill him, I messed something up in the future. It's hard to understand. It really fries your brain. But we will do something to him.
Speaker 2:Essentially, is all that he says.
Speaker 1:He also asked why he's learning French. Yes, joe, why he's learning French. Abe tells him to not learn French and he should learn China or he should learn. Chinese Mandarin so you can go to China instead. Hell yeah. So Joe eventually gives up. Seth Abe tells Joe to party and Kid blue is gonna call the dock Whatever that means the dog. But then we cut to older set.
Speaker 2:I know what it means. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:We cut to older Seth who is trying to take the train. He sees like an arrow on his arm all of a sudden, and it just has an address carved on it, which is great, that's such a good idea. He ignores it and starts climbing a bob wire fence, but slowly his fingers start vanishing. Oh, I guess I have to go to this address now. Shut, shut, shut, shut, shut, shut. And so we cut to him, starting to drive, driving to the address, but first his like right foot disappears and then he crashes, and then his left foot disappears.
Speaker 1:So he's got, he's crawling his face. Is this essentially?
Speaker 2:knows, just nose on coming off, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then he makes it to the address and he immediately gets shot in the head. It's just like the great shot of like. Him like beating on the door and then like the guy coming out with a gun and it's just his face and it's like there's something so creepy about having your nose I don't know look like a skeleton on the outside of your face.
Speaker 2:Beating on a door with your nubs. Yeah oh god, it's frantically. Yeah, please stop cutting me into pieces.
Speaker 1:And in the background we see young Seth on a medical bed covered in blood. We just hear, like the beeping, like the thing that helps you, your lungs, believe right.
Speaker 2:Respirator, yeah.
Speaker 1:So we cut to Susie. She's smoking and Getting like, I guess, kind of just doing up her makeup. She looks kind of annoyed though and stress. She walks into the next room and we see Joe willing on her bed. It's like, oh yeah, this wet blankets in her life right now he's talking about. He can't remember his mother's face and just wants his hair played with Susie starts trying to have sex with them, but he stops her and he tells her that her, his best friend, died today and she's like he may have killed his best friend.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like dude just like, pound me and get out of my life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he really brought down the mood, yeah she still tries to have sex with him, but he aggressively stops her. He says that he wants to give her half his stash so that she can get out, but she doesn't want it because silver has strings. She says Susie doesn't like the loser. And Susie plays with his hair bored staring at the clock Because clocks go in a loop. Jesus Christ, this movie is deep as hell. Joe gets home, he checks his safe. We see that everything is there, only a minimal amount of blood though, but he's feeling bad. So the next day Joe gets up like any other day. He's in an open field, he's checking his watch, getting nervous because, like he checks his watch, puts it back in his pocket and he's just standing there and he cuts back and he's looking at his watch and again he's getting nervous.
Speaker 2:Do you think that they know? They know exactly where they're gonna land? Yeah, is that supposed to be like 30 years from now, in the future? That's the spot where they put them in the time.
Speaker 1:Well, so they put them in the time machine. I think they can send them to any place in any time. What I did read is that the time machine only goes one direction and Um, so, like you can't bring them back, obviously, um, okay, yeah, that's. I'm trying to think there was something else about the time machine, but I can't remember. Um, but they, they know when and where they're placing them, essentially. So, um, finally, like he's just waiting for the guy to pop up and he's just like, okay, what's going on? He's getting nervous and then finally someone pops up and it's Bruce, goddamn Willis. There's no bag on his head, he's not tied to anything. Joe hesitates and when he goes to shoot um old Joe, he turns around and hits like the back, yeah, plates that he has on armor old Joe throws some gold at him and then he
Speaker 2:stands up and just Knocks him completely out and it's so funny Seeing this from another point of view later.
Speaker 1:We almost get three different perspectives, almost like we're in a because it happened really quickly in real time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, very fast.
Speaker 1:Then we see Joey wakes up with a note on his person that says hop on a train and get out of town. He doesn't and goes into the city back to his apartment he grabs a gun and then notices a cigarette and beside of his apartment he hides in another room. We see a kid blue come in. He's clearing, like, joe's safe. He here's a gunshot downstairs. Joe rushes Kid blue and he like knocks him into the safe and then throws the safe door as his hand is out and just.
Speaker 1:Smashes his hand Awful and he's like just tell Abe, I'm gonna fix this. He just immediately starts shooting the door of the safe from underneath, probably destroyed his eardrums.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, because he's on the inside of the safe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then we see him Joe's trying to escape. He Goes out the window and he's climbing down the fire escape, but he falls and we think that he might be dead. It was a neat sequence.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was really good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, ryan johnson's really good at action sequences, which is not what he was known for, especially at this point.
Speaker 2:I just meant like how the camera turned with him. Yes, yes.
Speaker 1:It did that a little earlier in one of the bar scenes is kind of going in a circle, almost like a a loop.
Speaker 2:Oh, I got. You're gonna make me have to take a loop.
Speaker 1:Yeah, then we go back to when old Joe showed up and we get a different version. This is the past version of what happened to old Joe. Young Joe shoots, old Joe Cashes out and we see him go to china. We see what he does in the years of his life. By year 10 he partied all his money away and joins a crime gang to make money. Until he meets a girl at the bar in year 23 and he loves drugs yes, he loves.
Speaker 1:His hair is fading away. He's just partying every night, goes through everything, and so he's like in this. They get to, so they're like at like a bar fight almost, and then he sees her for the first time. They get together, she cleans them up, they get married and on year 30. He gets kidnapped and by the rainmaker who's closing his loop, we see that they're taking them to a warehouse and we see him fight everybody off and kill everybody and make it into the time machine, which is a metal ball thing with wires. It looks like the head of an old timey scuba suit essentially yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Then we see old Joe. He came back with a bag off his head and we get a wide shot of the version of what happened earlier, like you're talking about now. We're following old Joe, such that when I saw that for the first time, I specifically just remembering. Just turning to my friend, hell that rule. Let's go Because it it. I didn't go overboard with the time travel stuff, but it's, it's fun. It's just that's the fun thing about time travel. You can just you can do anything, man. Let's just go crazy with it.
Speaker 2:I was just kind of like wondering he did he jumped, he killed everybody and then jumped in the time machine. Yeah, he killed everybody that came to save his wife.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so what we'll eventually learn is that he's coming back to kill the rainmaker, essentially so that the rainmaker won't be able to come back and kidnap him and take him to.
Speaker 2:I don't know, that was just like I it was. He killed everyone so quickly. I didn't. You didn't really see him formulate a plan.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was. Just, I don't know he's, he's winging.
Speaker 1:It could have just not jumped in the which we'll see a little earlier, a little later, that he kind of knew a little bit more about the rainmaker and how he got the numbers on his hand. Yes, we see him. He robs a store, hangs out in an alley. He starts getting like blurry new memories that he never had before in his head since he created a rift in his timeline. We see what joe did earlier, but from joe's perspective we see that he shot the guy.
Speaker 1:He shot the gun that young joe heard back in his apartment. It was the guy. He walked past the car. There's a guy in it and he's the one that shot him. We see young joe fall, joe fall off the ladder and old joe drag him off the car with him. Then we get a shot of abe looking for old joe and young joe. Kid blue says he can find them, but abe tells him just to go home since he's worthless. But kid blue is like I could do a father or boss, I don't know, seems like his dad the way he's making it sound.
Speaker 1:Um, young joe wakes up next to the train, but he immediately is like nope so and he starts running back to the city. We see old joe. He goes to the library to look up some numbers that's on his hand. This gives him the list of three kids. He starts to feel something on his arm and then we he sees the word Beatrix, um, written on his arm behind the store. We see sess hoverbike whenever he goes to the diner.
Speaker 2:And it's. I love the. How kind of like the way they look, like the they get the jet engine with like all old motorcycle parts on the top of it. Yeah, it looks great part.
Speaker 1:I'll have a. I'll have a comment about hoverbike. So old joe meets young joe at the diner. Old joe tells him that it was a clever idea from him riding Beatrix and they both hold a steak and eggs the exact same meal, of course. Um, at first old joe he's just like who's the girl that works on the weekend? Oh jane, hmm, should have used that shorter name Jen yeah. It's like oh yeah, that button's smart, um yeah, instead of just writing. Writing the whole main, beatrix.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:I'm an idiot, okay. So young joe tells him that we know how this is going to go. Um, and then he has this long speech. It's like so do what old men do and just die. Old joe knows that he wants to shoot him and tells him to do it if he's just gonna do it, but he can't. Um, young joe wants to know how this is working. Old, in terms of talking about the time travel. Older joe, it's like I don't want to talk about time travel because if we started talking about it, then we're going to be here all day about it, all day talking about it, making diagrams with straws.
Speaker 1:Which ends up happening in, like most time travel. Older joe gets pissed because it doesn't matter how any of it works, but it explains that his mind is fuzzy because all the memories he is getting now or getting now, and he can't remember what young joe does until after he does it. So it's a little blurry while it's going, but as soon as he Complets the task if he like if he was to kill someone, he'd kind of get a fuzzy version of what's happening. But then, as soon as he kills it and it's done, he'd have the entire memory at that point. Yeah, he says that.
Speaker 1:Old joe says that all that matters is that eventually joe meets a girl in china that saves his life in the future. Young joe's like I don't care, whatever, I just love his life. Yeah, fixed him. Old joe explains that they wanted a baby but they couldn't. Old joe says that she cleaned him up, got him to stop killing and off drugs. I love the scene because you get to just yell at your younger self like hey, by the way, you're an idiot. Okay, yes, um. So how about I just tell you how this is all gonna work so it's better for you in the future? It's like that's just such a like a fantasy.
Speaker 1:I feel like everybody has like and if I could just talk to myself back in the day.
Speaker 2:I could fix everything. Convince yourself, Do you younger yourself to believe that you one were yourself and two you know.
Speaker 1:I just feel like the best thing it'd just be like I don't know, no, to make this perverted, be like when was the first time you masturbated? See, if you say that if you say that it's like okay, I know who you are. It's like okay, so I guess you don't know. You don't remember the first time you did that. Okay, well, we'll move on.
Speaker 2:I'll see you stuff. A cat that would hump my leg.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I guess to be like hey, what did this one cat do to me one time You're like oh, the Leg-humping cat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, every got that morning it would wake me up.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's awkward and it's gross. So he says, during all this wise explaining all this, old Joe says you're gonna Think you are clear and everything is okay. But then yesterday, 30 years ago, or 30 years into the future Happens and then it all just gets ruined.
Speaker 1:He's like what do you mean? So, while getting kidnapped, his what we see like a flashback while getting kidnapped, his wife is shot and killed because of a guy had an itchy trigger finger and it sucks and it's sad and I love that they bring her inside. Well, Joe isn't backed and just put some right down in front of him. It's like, dude, you guys were asking for this. Like obviously he's gonna kill you. You just did the worst possible thing, like it's one thing to shoot her, but then you brought him right into his face. Oh, my god, which, I guess, if I know I'm about to die. It's like well, at least let me get to look in her eyes one more time.
Speaker 1:Or give me the power to.
Speaker 2:Overpower. Like people, yeah, but they've got like the Bluetooth zapper.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which is awesome. He then tells him about the rainmaker. He says the rainmaker came out of nowhere and took over all the main crime syndicates, and it in just six months alone. It's awesome. They're like that would take an army. He's like, yeah, he did it alone. No one knows who he is whether he's a guy or girl, they don't know. Fucking love it. Apparently, rainmaker has a synthetic jaw and saw his mom shot and We'll see how all that he's like destroying the world.
Speaker 1:Yeah, pretty much he was essentially just eradicating crime, yeah, which is kind of maybe a good thing. Who knows how way hits id's intentions in the future is. He just kills a bunch of people. He does, but they don't really say if he's killing innocent people. He's just kind of killing crimes.
Speaker 2:But I'm sure he's an insane person because he has all the power in the world. Yeah, took over the crime syndicate. That means he's part of it, he's leading it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, technically. So it'd probably be worse if you say it a lot. So young Joe says that it doesn't matter to him, he would just make sure he never meets her. He says, like, show me a picture of her and I'll avoid her. It's like soon as I see her I'll walk away. Oh oh, joe, says he's like he's not trying to not meet her, he's just trying to save her. Which is like just let me save her, dude. Okay, let me just kill this kid and then all set. They're like their tempers are flaring the to start to fight and old Joe notices the diner is Completely empty now, which is great. It's like, oh wow, no one noticed all these people leave. Then the gap man come young Joe Tears. While young Joe and old Joe are fighting, he tears a little bit of the map that has one of the houses that he's got going to on it, and so old Joe he's, he's eventually able to yeah right, it does kind of look like it.
Speaker 1:But we see old Joe. He escapes the gap man. And then young Joe, who's like God dang it, throws his gun in the ground. And then he's. He looks over at kid blue and he's like oh crap, and start running off. So funny. Then he escapes into the cornfield on the hoverbike here's the thing making popcorn trails. This is probably the worst shot of the movie when he's on that hoverbike. You know what? Because this happened in the book of Boba fit. You can't make hoverbikes, look realistic, you just can't feel like.
Speaker 1:every time I see a hoverbike I'm like that looks so lame. It just doesn't work, I don't know. We don't have the technology and make it look cool yet.
Speaker 2:Make it look like it would work.
Speaker 1:We just need James Cameron to spend 30 years making a movie about hoverbikes and everybody will finally know how to do it, but so we cut.
Speaker 1:We get to meet Sarah who lives on an old farm by herself, until we meet a little name, little kid named Sid. While cooking breakfast she hears a noise and closes and it's her outscreen door slamming shut. She notices while fixing it. She notices young Joe in the cornfield. He's just like sitting out there like Obviously reviews like oh wait, can I be seen? Because right back into the cornfield. But she notices him, goes out with a gun, threatens him.
Speaker 2:She says as pointing her gun at this one.
Speaker 1:Listen up, fucker. I have shot and buried three vagrants in the past year, so I don't care what hobo so soft store you've got. I get a dozen a week, pal. It cuts no cash for me, but if you show your face here again, I will cut you the fucking half. I just love the way she starts it. Listen up, fucker. I have shot and get buried.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she says it like every day.
Speaker 1:I feel like but Joe's like I'm staying. He's just looking at his map, but he is. We start seeing him going through drug withdrawals and he can't focus and eventually I guess this passes out. His eyes are like super bloodshot.
Speaker 2:It's really cool shot torn apart.
Speaker 1:I really liked all this, like the way the camera effects are during that scene. But so we then cut to Abe. In the city we learned blue track Seth's Bike and that's how he found him at the diner. Abe said he's tired of his fuck ups and to hand in his gun. And then we get the sob story blue, I just, I just wanted you to say you're proud of me, boss. Come on, boss, I did good, right, boss, sucker dick. But then a site, just he pulls the gun. Blue says something and it just he just takes a hammer and just batches blues hand. And then we're back to the farm. Sarah notices her barn door is open, she gets her gun and goes in checks it out she's a zipper, zipper.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and she hears some wrestling in the cornfield and then she's like starting to back away because we see this figure coming and Young Joe, he's starting to wake up and he goes to help her. Sarah, it's like backing off. She shoots in the air and then Continues the backup and rolls her ankle because a classic, classic situation. Just run. If anything, joe pops out to help, but it's just we just learned it's a deaf, homeless person who can't talk, obviously, and has a little sign, says I'm deaf, need help.
Speaker 2:Guy runs and then joke Joe pukes man.
Speaker 1:I keep almost combining Joe and whatever the next couple words are together and it's killing my brain right now.
Speaker 1:He jukes, he jukes. Sarah pulls Joe on to report she's going to help. We see a little kid come out and give Joe some water. It was so sweet, it is really it'll of it. Sarah comes back and tells Sid to go upstairs. Sid knows he's not a normal vragrant like they usually deal with. Sid keeps calling Sarah Sarah instead of mom, even though it seems like their Mother and son or whatever. We cut to the city where everybody is looking for Joe who is hiding in a sewer system. He is starting to get memories of Sarah now and he's losing memories of what he thinks he is. He keeps saying it like Remember the first time you saw her, remember the first time you saw her face, remember the first time you saw her face. And he keeps repeating this until finally he's able to see her face as the first time that they met.
Speaker 2:He's staring at the thing. I'm like staring at it too. I'm waiting for it to change. Is it gonna disappear? Is it gonna disappear?
Speaker 1:And he just keeps coming back to the sewer over and over, looking back at his watch, almost like he's in a loop. The next day we see young Joe in the barn. He's handcuffed to like a gurney looking thing. Um, sid wants to know if he is Staying, he's said. Talking to his mom at this point, sarah says she just took him in to make sure he wasn't going to die, but now he has to go. Joe says he isn't going to go because he has to protect them. He shows her the map and asked how he and she asked how he got that number. And he immediately shoots Joe Because before this she was saying he's like no, you're leaving.
Speaker 1:Sarah was saying to Joe Just like no, I'm not. It's like, yeah, you will or I'll shoot you and get off the land. It's like, got you in here, you're not gonna shoot anybody, you're scared to shoot the homeless guy. It's like, well, you're just gonna shoot in the air and hope I run. But like, as soon as she sees the numbers and knows what it is, it's like how did you get this? And then we learned that she has like rock salt or whatever you call that Rocks all yeah, rock salt shoots them around the chest.
Speaker 1:Oh, that sucks. Joe's tells Sarah the whole story. Now she knows about the loopers, apparently, while this is happening, we see old Joe going to a house. We then see old Joe go to the house searching for a kid. Young Joe explains everything to her. We learned that the numbers are his birthday and hospital number. Sarah asked who he is. But like who's coming to kill Sid? But you won't tell her right. And she asks what is going, what he is going to do. We then see old Joe kill a kid. Sucks, dang man. I was really on your side, bruce, but dang you know I know.
Speaker 1:No, it went hard, but then we what he went hard.
Speaker 2:I thought you said you got hard.
Speaker 1:I was like no.
Speaker 2:I don't remember. That's weird.
Speaker 1:Weird point or that to happen in this movie.
Speaker 2:So all his life to find out that he gets erections from killing children?
Speaker 1:Yep, that's uh.
Speaker 1:Yep. So yeah, old Joe runs out and is waiting to see if he's gonna disappear or not, but he doesn't. He breaks down and has a memory of his wife, and this is a scene where we see it's just them two laying in bed, old Joe and his wife. Yeah, it kind of reminds me of some of like how it cuts back and everything everywhere all at once to the other timelines. Oh yeah, and also the movie in the mood for love, which I'm assuming both Everything everywhere all at once and this movie took parts of because they're very similar.
Speaker 1:Which I know everything everywhere at once did. But I don't know about this one. I couldn't find, couldn't really find too many facts about this. I just think this movie kind of came and went, you know, but I love it. Fact so Sarah agrees to let young Joe stay. She wants to know if she can trust Joe. Joe says that they should burn down all her crops so that they can see everything. She's like no, it's like, but it's all. It's all pretty much dead anyways. Like, yeah, it's all. This is the seed for next year's harvest. You're taking her entire.
Speaker 2:We should just burn everything.
Speaker 1:You know, like you don't need any money, do you? I'd be like how much money you got in your safe boy.
Speaker 2:He probably had enough to buy the whole fucking farm.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and Sarah says he can stay and use whatever he wants, but he can't talk to Sid and we see him doctoring the wounds into his chest. He's like oh she's like pussy.
Speaker 2:But he's he kind of. I was wondering how he was not screaming. She calls him a pussy for flinching a little bit. Yeah, I know it's like dude.
Speaker 1:You're like pulling salt out of my wounds. There's nothing more painful than salt in your wins so young.
Speaker 2:Joe's.
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, I've never had salt in my winds. Young Joe says he needs walkies or some form of communication, but they don't have any. Sid wants to help the man, but Sarah tells him not to talk to that man ever. We see old Joe suffering in the sewer. We get a weird transition. Sid wakes up. Like where the transition is? Joe's sleeping and then we see like the little kids Hand go over his mouth and then we cut to young Joe and it's like oh what?
Speaker 1:And it's like Sid's just waking up Joe and shows him that he is making a communication device. This kid is fucking awesome. It's two frogs that one lights up if you press the other one. I had something like this. I have these two little frogs that like lit up whenever you press them. That's cool. I'm assuming I did, unless I'm just having like a false memory. Yeah, I don't know, but I remember thinking the same thing in 2012. I was like I had some of those. Interesting ironic that I had. I'm scared of them.
Speaker 2:It's interesting that you're a liar.
Speaker 1:I'm not so. Sid asked if Joe kills people. Sid is super interested in the fact, that fact, and wants a gun like his. It's so that he can stop bad things from happening To people he loves, just like. I don't know if you're the rainmaker yet, but I'm getting. Joe asked about his mom, but Sid says that Sarah isn't his real mom. Sid says that he couldn't stop his real mom from getting killed. It's very vague and he calls Sarah a liar Dush.
Speaker 2:He's all. He's a little kid. She was being a good mom, though.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I, he's just screaming liar, I mean kids have tantrums.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we'll learn eventually why he doesn't trust her, though. So we cut to old Joe. We cut to old Joe running from Abe's men. Blue is listening in on Abe's men's walkies, though, and now blue knows where everybody's at. Young Joe says he made a communication device, but Sarah sees through it. Judd meant Sid woke him up and made it for him. Joe confronts her about being Sid's mom. We learned that Sarah's sister took him in after seeing how Sarah was living, because she was just kind of partying every night in the city, but we learned that somehow she died. Joe's all pushy about it.
Speaker 1:She yells at him and Sarah is then so, and then after all, this is just kind of blowing up where she's just like shut up, and Then we cut to. Sarah is then teaching Sid math on this like little cool board thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like a time table.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was like, oh, that's cool, I don't know if you want to do multiplication. No back in the day. I feel like back in the day that would have been a really helpful like tool. I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah so we see Sid, he just wants to help Joe. Sid starts pushing back and not doing the schoolwork properly. Sid and Sarah start yelling. Sid yells that Sarah is not her mom and starts yelling liar. And then everything in the room starts like Moving just slightly, like there's like a huge gust of wind came in. Sarah runs out and hides in a safe yeah, the gun safe.
Speaker 2:Yeah those big ones. Friend in high school he had his dad had one and he had gold coin. It was full of gold coins. I got goddamn pirate Guns and shit.
Speaker 1:I bet all of that got sold after he passed. He's not dead yet. All that's gonna be sold Passes I think it's gonna probably gonna be split up between the kids? Yeah, I would assume so, and that'd be so cool.
Speaker 2:Maybe they'll kill each other.
Speaker 1:Oh hey, oh, I didn't know this. My mom secretly had a bunch of gold coins.
Speaker 2:You know what I should if you had a bunch of old coins or gold coins, mm-hmm, be like Whoever loves me the most gets them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so y'all have 30 years to prove that you love me before I die. Yeah, so Joe hears all this from outside. After Sid falls asleep, sarah's going in hold. Sid, who bought, apologize this tour, apologizes. I said that weird. Oh, I just realized like oh, she went, she went and hidden the safe To protect them, just like. Joe protected Seth in the safe safe. Can you see safe? Wow, it's like we're in a loop.
Speaker 2:Or the butterfly.
Speaker 1:So we see old Joe is Scooping, scoping out the next kid, and we see that it's Susie's kid that Joe knew from the past or the current present, whatever he like. We see him staring at her through the window. It's real nice and creepy.
Speaker 2:And see, this is what made me think that it was his son that he was about to kill.
Speaker 1:Oh, gosh it no okay, no. Yeah, I mean it could be his kid, we don't know.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's what I know because he had I mean, he obviously had a hard time killing the first kid.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, do it again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just felt like it's gonna get worse.
Speaker 1:So we're cut back to the farm. We hear knocking and see the frog lighting up. As she goes downstairs. This is Sarah searing the knocking. It's one. It's a GAT man named Jesse just like me. We learned that he's canvassing the area. Um, Sarah is super sketched and she's like oh, he's like just, can I have some water? I've been out all day walking between empty farms. She's like I'll get you one. You can go away.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can take take the glass with you and he's like ma'am, I'm gonna have to search your area, okay. He really loves his list, yeah, he does, and he asks if she has a husband and a kid. She tells him that they're both in town together. He's starting to look through a house. Young Joe goes into the house just in case something goes wrong. Um, while talking to Jesse, behind Sarah, we see Joe hiding behind the couch. And then, all of a sudden, we start seeing Sid walking down the stairs, fucking psychopath.
Speaker 2:Sarah's like God, dang it. What is going on?
Speaker 1:dude to stay upstairs, and which is really smart on Sid's case, because he's eventually he's gonna go upstairs, but Sarah walks around so that Jesse wouldn't look at the stairs and, yeah, sid's able to sneak down. He runs, he makes a noise in the kitchen and then Jesse goes to run to see what that was and then Sid runs out and takes Takes, joe, they go into the hot out into the front yard which is really cool when I want one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but Harry Potter which is? He had one.
Speaker 1:Yeah right. Joe explains that Jesse is a good guy and won't hurt his mom. Sid asked about Joe's mom. Joe says that his mom gave him up. His parents were both junky or Vagrants and sold him to a penhandle gang, but he was able to escape that. He explains that all he could think about Was killing those men that she gave him away to. Sid is taking the wrong message from this. Wow, so why didn't you do it?
Speaker 2:You should do it I would love to hear about you killing people Cuz he's a creepy old kid.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think about it all the time. So we cut to blue watching security footage of Joe watching Susie. Then back at the farm we see Sarah who is all horned up, slightly touching herself. She decides to touch the frog to call Joe so that they can bone. Yeah, I love that she touches the frog.
Speaker 2:She's like oh, did I do that? Put her hands to her lips?
Speaker 1:Oh, my, I'm in for it. Yeah. And so they bone down. And after sex we see Sarah using her tk powers to her lighter and she's way better than like Seth was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's so funny what she said about the boys that would hit on her.
Speaker 1:She says that when she was younger, boys tried to impress her by using the power, but she would be able to hold down their coin or whatever they're floating in their hand to embarrass them. And it's funny because earlier we see Seth doing it and he's like girls love this. It's just like anything guys think girls love they don't?
Speaker 1:they're different than us. Sarah admits that she knows it's his loop trying to kill Sid. She's like figured out because Jesse, when it came in, is like we're looking for Joe and his father. This man, have you seen either one? But she says that she trusts that he will kill older Joe. Now Sarah tells him about the night that her sister died. She explains that she felt that she abandoned her baby and that, as long as she was alive to raise him, that she's gonna raise him right and protect him.
Speaker 1:And as long as no old man from the future tries to kill them.
Speaker 2:It should be successful, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:So the next day, young Joe wakes up and goes downstairs to see Jesse holding Sarah hostage. He talks Jesse into letting her go. He's like, just alright, just go sit on the couch now, sarah. He tries to bargain with Jesse. Jesse won't back down though. Sid comes downstairs and almost gets shot. And then we get this rad FNC. You just see Sid like Everything slowly starts raising and it was none of it was CGI that used all wire work, except until he explodes blood.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm like he takes off to try to save the kid and then Sarah Pushes him out the door. She's like.
Speaker 1:But, while, while we see Sid falling down, worse, we also see older Joe running in to kill Susie's kid. And while Sid falls down the stairs, we see everything in the house is lifting up, including Jesse, who said explodes apart.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, it looks like they just kind of show like just like the beginnings, the beginnings of him being ripped apart.
Speaker 1:Yeah or something I was just like give me the Give me the five minute long version of this.
Speaker 2:I was waiting for the explosion of body parts. I know blood and gore.
Speaker 1:But as this is happening, the memory pops into older Joe's head and now he knows who the rainmaker is. Then Joe is pushed out of the house. Old, young Joe is pushed out of the house and the house explodes. Older Joe is captured by blue cuz he blew kid, blue cuz he had that.
Speaker 2:Tate zappy taser thing electronic taser or whatever.
Speaker 1:We see young Joe. He's freaking out because he knows now that Sid what Sid is capable of. It's this great shot, though, of like Younger Joe walking past the house. And as you walk past the house, you hear Sarah inside calling for Sid and the window that they're all in is just covered in blood. And as Sarah gets into it, we only hear her inside like, oh my god, it's like rough, what'd you do? So we learn from Sarah that Sid fell from a bookshelf and got scared and killed her sister by accident. Young Joe wants to kill him now, but Sarah is pleading that she can change him and Young Joe runs into the cornfield to find Sid. When he does, he's completely covered in blood. Super sad, and it made me sad.
Speaker 1:And yeah cuz he trusted him yeah and Joe looks at him and immediately is unable to kill him and comforts him instead, and it's real kind of yeah man that kid was he, and he did the part so well it looks.
Speaker 2:Cuz his face expression was yeah, yeah, he was. I mean, it was good acting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the kids kind of wish he was with me in terms of his acting. But overall I think you know you could just tell is like I'm just a kid, do what I'm told. Young Joe says that two things have happened by now. Older Joe knows who the rainmaker is and the Gap men know where they are and where we are. So one of those two things are about to happen. And Then we cut to Abe who is gearing up the men before they go. He sees kid blue with her older Joe. Kid blue thinks he did a good thing, but older Joe breaks free and then we like some classic Bruce Willis stuff here, where he's just like yeah.
Speaker 1:He shoots everybody, he gets like. A machine gun is like. Submachine guys Awesome then we get some shots of older Joe killing the entire Gap men gang. Then Abe gets Killed by him because the whole bunch of canned grenades. Yeah, and he has this line. It's like oh man, it's like. I took you off the street, now You're here to kill me. Everything comes around like your stupid ties. Just like. Yeah, that's awesome like looper, looks to the camera Winks.
Speaker 2:I'm just so we see.
Speaker 1:We see that kid blue is still alive, though he just has a gunshot in his leg. Classic was on, yeah and he he goes into Abe's room and he sees that there's a X, that with the red circle on it, and he's going to go and stop both of them before. So I guess he can still prove himself and I guess, if he catches on, be like I did it. Now I'm in charge.
Speaker 1:Yeah, whatever, now daddy will love me yeah so older Joe and younger Joe meet before the farm. Um oh, older Joe says he has his life back, nobody is coming for him now, and Because he throws him like a gold bar to young Joe, he's like everybody's dead. You're good, just get out of here, I'll kill the kid. But yeah, he says he's going on to kill the kid. Young Joe just won't let it happen, though. Kid blue shows up whenever younger Joe is just starting to try to kill older Joe.
Speaker 2:They wonder what I know where on his bike.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and typical fashion kid blue sucks and gets dead Because it was a really cool idea of younger Joe to shooting the ground a bunch of those kind of a cool See like a little dust cloud. Yeah, they want to get the upper hand drove right through it. Yeah, it's like dude, come on, just back up and wait for the dust to clear.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just stay far away, cuz he can't get you. Yeah, exactly, stay ten feet away. You can take shots at him from 30 yards away, exactly.
Speaker 1:But this allowed older Joe to escape and go after Sid those go.
Speaker 2:how you get him back, though he was waiting in the cloud, yeah and as he drives by to shoot his head. He's just gone, you know I eat the bike comes. Yeah, I want to see his head.
Speaker 1:I know his head is all over the place, I'm assuming so, sarah and Sid. We see him leaving the farm, but older Joe is blocking the way and shooting at them. When things get tense, sid uses his TK powers to flip the truck, but we still see older Joe Coming. It's kind of terminator ask. Yeah, I don't know if you got that vibe when he's just shooting and the car is coming next to me like doesn't care, so very kind of a dick move to flip the car that way, though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, come on see it don't tell everything in the back that she had packed.
Speaker 1:How about said, just turn the car around and force it to Drive the other?
Speaker 2:direction.
Speaker 1:Really could have just drove the other direction, I don't know. So Sarah and Sid are making a break for the cane fields. It's like you couldn't find a Closer thing to run behind, or something that's the only thing, but it was, it wasn't even there. Yeah.
Speaker 2:It was like under across a different field.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you had to go through the cane field. That was, I guess, plowed into the cane field. That hasn't been plowed yet, I'm assuming. So we have all the talk about agriculture.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's talk about agriculture.
Speaker 1:So um FMLA Did you do it?
Speaker 2:That's. That's not what you think future farmers of. America. That's the FF.
Speaker 1:FFA future farmers of America.
Speaker 2:Okay, so all jokes.
Speaker 1:Shooting a seed hits them in the face, called seeing. Maybe that's why he has a synthetic jaw. This causes him to freak out and all the grass starts to raise in the field. He then let's, lifts everybody up in this huge tk shockwave, even blows young Joe, who's driving in a truck now, off the road.
Speaker 2:It's like essentially just like a huge hurricane and and just did he see all the silver spill out of the truck and like all he gave him was a one gold bar. I know right.
Speaker 1:He had all that silver. So crazy Was he gonna do it, I don't know it's just like.
Speaker 1:I mean maybe he was just throwing that into being like look Way more in here, so you're good, just run off, young Joe. But both Sarah and older Joe are being lifted up. But before he explodes them he starts to hear Sarah telling him that it's okay and to calm down and everything's gonna be fine. It's just great because he's this. It's a shot where he's just focusing on older Joe and then in like the sound, you just start hearing Emily Blunt's voice and then it just pans over to her beautiful shot.
Speaker 2:Oh, what's that movie with mad david?
Speaker 1:It's not your fault, it's not your fault it's not my stop movies, it's um, um, how do we good will hunting? Yes, yes, so, but after all this, they're all. They're all sat down by Sid. It doesn't stop older Joe, though Sarah tells them to run into the field and get away. Young Joe gets up to stop him, and then young Joe sees everything all happen. This is what Joe says. Then I saw it. I saw a mom who would die for her son, a man who would kill for his wife, a boy, angry and alone, layed out in front of him, the bad path. I saw it. The path was a circle, round and round, like a loop, and Joe decides to turn the gun on myself and shoots. So I changed it.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah, that was so cool.
Speaker 1:Old Joe disappears. Sarah calls for Sid. Sarah, sarah tells Sid that Joe had to go away. We get scenes of Sarah taking care of Joe and Joe goes to sleep. No, sid. We see scenes of Sarah taking care of Sid and Sid goes to sleep. Sarah goes back to Joe. She closes his watch, closing the loop. Then she runs her hand through his hair, just like she wanted, and we get like this great shot of them and then the final shot of Sid just sleeping. And then the end, bro, when he turned that gun on himself, I was like no, when I watched it this time, I completely forgot about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I was like, I was like how?
Speaker 1:does this end? I cannot remember how this ends. And then he starts doing the monologue.
Speaker 2:I'm like oh, yeah, it kind of hurts me this ending. What if, instead of just disappearing, bruce Lee turned into like a pile of bones?
Speaker 1:Like I wish it was a slower, like he just starts melting or something. I'm melting out of time.
Speaker 2:I am melting Time, melting oh man, I just love this movie.
Speaker 1:Somehow it puts all these genres together and just makes it work. It's like a cool, it's almost kind of it's just, it's almost. It just keeps going. It's like I'm going to force all these genres to work together. But it's just because it has a good, like other characters are good, the story of the characters, all are just done well and because of that can have all these wacky things happening and it's OK, it is still works.
Speaker 2:It's just a little, for the most part because you could have done this normal.
Speaker 1:You could have just made a noir gangster film or whatever. That's all just about this. I mean, essentially they're probably like a thousand of them out there. But what he did? He watched something old and made it new, like, like it's God dang wardrobe or whatever.
Speaker 2:Like movie jazz.
Speaker 1:But yeah, so we're. We're going to hop to our new, our categories. We got the good, the bad, the ugly and the fine. The good is what we like best about the movie, whether it's the ideas, the scenes, the acting or quote whatever. Then you got the bad, which is what you didn't like about the movie the ugly, something that didn't age well, and the fine, something that did age well. Should we change the fine to the pretty, the ugly and then the pretty, or is that stupid, I feel like I'm going to say pretty, let's try it out.
Speaker 1:So our category the good, the bad, the ugly, the pretty, the pretty, I don't know, I'll think about that one. So what do you got as the good?
Speaker 2:The weapons, the fucking Blonder Bus.
Speaker 1:I love it so much Rolled.
Speaker 2:I kind of wish there was more like pirate shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I really I do love all. I kind of just love weapons.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, it was fucking sweet. Well, that just, I don't know. This is the whole mash, the mash up of all the different.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the different genres.
Speaker 2:Genres is fucking great.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I had the good original ideas Jesse Gordon Levitt's performance and just classic Bruce. We're getting a classic Bruce Willis performance before all his performances were bad after this, essentially.
Speaker 2:Yeah, is this like right before he started going downhill with his brain?
Speaker 1:No, because that was like a year or two ago when that really started happening. He just kind of quit caring about acting. I think he just he's there to make money now, yeah.
Speaker 2:I guess, but anytime he shows up with like a real director who can get a performance out of him.
Speaker 1:It's amazing. Yeah, it's amazing. I always love them. So what do you got about the bad? What's the bad thing? Got anything?
Speaker 2:I know drugs are bad OK the drugs are bad.
Speaker 1:I'm going to these.
Speaker 2:I drop drugs. Yeah, they're real bad. Sounds cool as hell. Yeah, it does sound like I've taken LSD when dropped for him on the tongue.
Speaker 1:So your bad is that drugs are bad, but it's so cool.
Speaker 2:I guess, Drugs.
Speaker 1:The bad is that drugs are so good. I hope no kids are listening.
Speaker 2:The bikes were stupid.
Speaker 1:Yes, that that was mine. The bad is hover bikes. You just can't make hover bikes look cool in film unless you actually just make a real hover bike. Is this something about? The movement of hover bikes is so unnatural to our look like the way it looks? Yes, because they all kind of look. They're small and dinky Like. The only time like a hover bike works is in Star Wars Return of the Jedi.
Speaker 1:I don't have a long but even that you can see the jankiness of it. Yeah, it's janky, but it's hard. It's tough Still called love those things in the video games. So what do you got for the ugly?
Speaker 2:I guess, child murder, even though it's totally necessary for the film and it's cool and awesome in the film, the film, it makes the film.
Speaker 1:Well, that's awesome, but my ugly is that you just said that.
Speaker 2:You're a say something and immediately try to take it back.
Speaker 1:It's like whoop shit and I said that.
Speaker 2:What do you do in that situation?
Speaker 1:You just stop you just Just edited out of the podcast.
Speaker 2:Walk out of the room.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm leaving and you'll never see me again. Child murder. So so, for one of the ugliest, I have Ryan Johnson. If you hate the last Jedi, for my, the fine Ryan Johnson. If you like the last Jedi because essentially, if you didn't like the last Jedi, you almost don't like any of his movies just because toxic. But also if you like the last Jedi, like I'm one that does, I will die for that man and I don't even know why. It's like whatever, it's just a movie. Yeah, I don't know. That's all about it. What do you got for that age? Well, also have Bruce Willis.
Speaker 2:Oh, he's just cool and good. In this movie he is Well, I mean yeah, but now that he has a, If you see him in a movie that isn't like a direct or red box movie.
Speaker 1:It's like or are we going to get like a real performance out of this? I'm so excited.
Speaker 2:Yeah and yeah. It's very lucky when something like when it's great yeah because there's. There was that other movie I think I've talked about it before not Avatar, but like where he's in a simulation and he's a surrogate.
Speaker 1:Is that it? I haven't seen that one.
Speaker 2:It's less good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would assume this movie is great. Five out of five.
Speaker 2:Yeah, watch it.
Speaker 1:And what do you got as a double feature? This is a movie that goes well with this movie that you would recommend.
Speaker 2:I can think about a surrogate. You recommend surrogate. That works, I don't know.
Speaker 1:No, that's good.
Speaker 2:I've never seen it. Now I'm going to watch it.
Speaker 1:I'm going to watch it because of you, because you've talked about it like a couple of times with me. Um, for mine, my double feature is this movie called Coherence. This movie Rolls. It almost broke my brain watching it. I've never heard of it, so it's like a surreal science fiction, psycho psychological thriller. So it's there's on the night of a comet passing by, eight friends gather for a dinner party at home of a couple and then things just kind of get crazy, gets real trippy. There's multiple versions of everybody, like it's just the comet, it's kind of chaos.
Speaker 2:The comet kind of changes. It's kind of like that movie for the base of the book by Stephen King, when the comet, the meteor, came to earth and made all the trucks come alive, oh, um, um maximum overdrive.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying we should do maximum overdrive. That may be real.
Speaker 2:I love that. Got the green goblin truck so good.
Speaker 1:But yeah, so watch surrogate and Coherence. I don't know if any of them are on anything. I apologize, but yeah, that's the movie and that's this week's episode. I already told you the we recommend mail bag at gmailcom. So if you have anything you want to send us to talk to us about, do please check it all the time. Soon as we get some stuff, I'll start saying those emails on the podcast and if you want to follow us on social medias or want to listen to on another part of platform, you can follow our link, tree link, tree four slash. We recommend podcast and that's this episode. Next week we're going to be covering the film the edge. Never seen it? Jason has. He loves it.
Speaker 1:Can't wait to watch it and talk about it Um and other than that it's got bears, it's got be else. Hey, watch for them. Be us Gooses. Hey boo boo.
Speaker 2:Let's go kill.
Speaker 1:Is Baldwin in it? Alec? Baldwin Boo boo, there's an Alec Baldwin. Well, ok, and the dude from Hannibal. Oh um Anthony Hopkins.
Speaker 2:Anthony Hopkins.
Speaker 1:No way, I didn't know that. Anthony real Anthony and Alec heavy Cool, can't wait, two great actors, so we will see you next time. This has been the we Recommend Podcast. I'm Jesse and Jason this time. Travel crap just fries your brain like an egg. See you next week. Bye.