Imagine yourself stranded in the wilderness, your survival instincts pitted against the elements—and a bear. That's the thrill ride we're unpacking on today's podcast as we explore "The Edge," a film that throws Anthony Hopkins and Alec Baldwin into the heart of nature's unforgiving theater. We'll crack open the humor within calamity, the surprising uses of a banana peel, and how a 'plane driver' mix-up can spiral into life-threatening chaos. It's a discussion peppered with playful banter, intriguing movie trivia, and a nod to the late, great Bart the Bear that's sure to reignite your passion for classic adventure films.
Ever find yourself laughing in the face of danger? We do just that as we reminisce on the gripping yet comical moments of characters facing off with wildlife, surviving plane crashes, and the emotional turmoil that ensues when trust between companions fractures. Our conversation dances between the lines of cinematic critique and anecdotal merriment, including a whimsical debate on whether a needle can indeed guide you home. Join us as we dissect the psychological complexities of a life-and-death struggle, all while weaving in Harold Perrineau's standout performance and the finesse of the film's foreshadowing.
As the wilderness tests the limits of human relationships, we wrap up with a profound look at the bonds formed in extreme circumstances. We probe the darker corners of human intentions as we debate whether friendship can endure the test of betrayal and survival. It's not just about the adrenaline of a bear attack or the chill of a snowstorm; it's about how these experiences change us. So buckle up and grab your compass—this podcast episode is a trek through the wild side of cinema, and we're eager to have you join us on this adventure.
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Imagine yourself stranded in the wilderness, your survival instincts pitted against the elements—and a bear. That's the thrill ride we're unpacking on today's podcast as we explore "The Edge," a film that throws Anthony Hopkins and Alec Baldwin into the heart of nature's unforgiving theater. We'll crack open the humor within calamity, the surprising uses of a banana peel, and how a 'plane driver' mix-up can spiral into life-threatening chaos. It's a discussion peppered with playful banter, intriguing movie trivia, and a nod to the late, great Bart the Bear that's sure to reignite your passion for classic adventure films.
Ever find yourself laughing in the face of danger? We do just that as we reminisce on the gripping yet comical moments of characters facing off with wildlife, surviving plane crashes, and the emotional turmoil that ensues when trust between companions fractures. Our conversation dances between the lines of cinematic critique and anecdotal merriment, including a whimsical debate on whether a needle can indeed guide you home. Join us as we dissect the psychological complexities of a life-and-death struggle, all while weaving in Harold Perrineau's standout performance and the finesse of the film's foreshadowing.
As the wilderness tests the limits of human relationships, we wrap up with a profound look at the bonds formed in extreme circumstances. We probe the darker corners of human intentions as we debate whether friendship can endure the test of betrayal and survival. It's not just about the adrenaline of a bear attack or the chill of a snowstorm; it's about how these experiences change us. So buckle up and grab your compass—this podcast episode is a trek through the wild side of cinema, and we're eager to have you join us on this adventure.
We would love to hear from you! Send us an email and maybe it will be read on the podcast! werecommendmailbag@gmail.com
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Music produced by Joey Prosser. X @mrjoeyprosser
Hello and welcome to the we Recommend Podcasts. This is a movie podcast where every week, we recommend a movie for you to watch and then come back here and listen to us discuss. I'm Jesse, I'm Jason, I'm gonna kill the bear. I'm gonna kill the bear, cuz this week we recommend the Edge.
Speaker 2:What one man can do, we can also do yes.
Speaker 1:Oh, bro, One of this is a movie where I'm like why didn't I see this one? I was younger so I could be obsessed with it. Growing up I would have been a dang woodsman after watching this movie. That's how cool it is. So why don't you watch it? Cuz this is your recommendation. I've never seen it.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I think I was on like a we rented it as a kid. But like I was already kind of in love with Anthony Hopkins, from Sond to the Lambs, yeah, so I was just kind of collecting all of his movies. He's such a good actor. I had like three or four movies growing up in my room.
Speaker 1:This is one of them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this Silence of the Lambs. I like Red Age.
Speaker 1:I like Red Hood and Braveheart, I don't know, just watching some of the most violent movies. Yes, it was awesome. I'm just five years old, mom. Thanks for these three movies. I love Anthony Hopkins.
Speaker 2:I'm a big Bart the Bear fan.
Speaker 1:Dude Bart. The Bear Bears are so cool and scary. This movie is terrifying that bear. But also at the same time there's a boy where he's like you know he's chasing him and then he's like they go through the river or whatever. He knocks the tree down, then he walks away and he's like he has a little tiny little tail on his butt. He's like sorry about your tree guys. I'm out of here.
Speaker 2:And all I can think about when he turned around was that. The part in the great outdoors, whenever they blow up the Bears butt with the lamp bulb. It's like a rifle that was turned into a lamp, but it still works for some reason. I don't think I've seen the bears. It blew all the hair off the Bears butt Wait is that the movie John Candy?
Speaker 1:Oh, no, I haven't seen that. Wait, yeah, I have seen it, I just don't remember that. It's really funny, dan Ackroyd.
Speaker 2:Nice, yeah, dan Ackroyd, these raccoons, they're always getting into the trash.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Talking in subtitles.
Speaker 1:Really. Yeah, god, I'm not gonna have to check that out. Is it bad or is it good? It's decent. That means it's bad. This was a perfect movie for me to watch, especially in. You know I've been going for two to three months now like hard on Survivor, yes, and I'm like shoot. I know, guys, I could do this.
Speaker 1:I understand Charles and Bob. This is. This is rough for you all. I've watched Survivor. Probably all had a tarp and maybe a flint. That's the thing at the end of this movie, because the whole time they go through it and they never make fire with just like wood or anything, which I like, because there's no way these two nerds would have been able to do that.
Speaker 2:Well, I bet Charles knew he knew how to do it. I just don't think he had to.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Maybe if they really got into it they would have been able to, but I don't know. We have six matches. That's all need. Yeah right, I'm sure Charles would Probably. After this was like I'm gonna learn, I'm gonna constantly have five flints on me for the rest of my life yes, and I'll never get in a plane. The movie does is like insane foreshadowing At the beginning everything that is said at the beginning of the movie. I kept turning and, natalie, I'm like geez, you think the migrating birds is going to play into this at all in any way? It's like everything they were talking about at the beginning is like oh, bears, I don't know exactly everything that's going to happen in this movie, but it's still fn ruled Soon.
Speaker 1:as I saw a deadfall, I'm like well Bob's falling in that thing, that's for sure. Just some way. They still are going to fight, for sure.
Speaker 2:And what's the other actor's name that goes up and gets Steven?
Speaker 1:Steven. His name is Harold. I don't know how to say his last name, p E.
Speaker 2:R.
Speaker 1:R I N E A? U. He's in so many movies. He's in lost. Yeah, he's got this looking for a son like the entire time.
Speaker 2:But and it sucks. But like as soon as I haven't seen this movie and probably a decade.
Speaker 1:28 weeks later, matrix reloaded Romeo Juliet. Yeah, he's awesome, he's in.
Speaker 2:But as soon as you see him like Anthony Hopkins, alec Baldwin and and him, you're like, oh, he's gonna die.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's immediately gonna die.
Speaker 2:It's funny, I was telling Natalie.
Speaker 1:I was like I'm pretty sure I've seen this guy in a bunch of different movies and he's always dying and I was trying to think of all the movies I've seen him in. But maybe I'm just thinking of loss. I'm looking at his filmography. I've been so much like what? Because I know he's in a horror movie and I'm just which one was it that he died?
Speaker 2:And was that the show about the prison Oz oh?
Speaker 1:he's in Oz and like I've never watched it, it seems too scary for me. He's great. I don't like prison movies. They scare me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a lot of bad stuff happens in prison, Right yeah?
Speaker 1:not a good place. So this movie stars Anthony Hopkins. Plays Charles Alec Baldwin that's his name, because I don't remember Charles, charles, charles Charles. Charles, charles, charles, charles. What do you say, charles? Let's be real though, charles maybe one of the most annoying people to be around as a friend Like dude, Charles. Okay, you're smart, we get it. Yeah hey, we walked five feet. Oh, you saw a tree.
Speaker 2:Tell me everything about it because you're just going to anyways. It's like getting lost with your science teacher. Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's like in the movie. Everybody seems like oh man, it's so great to have Charles around, but at a certain point back Charles, shut the fuck up I would love having Charles around, just like there's never going to be silence.
Speaker 1:No, that's sure, it's constantly it's. He'll teach you stuff. Yeah, one thing you'll get is some knowledge out of this. Very interesting. And then you have Alec Baldwin. He plays Robert Green, or Bob is being called L. Mcpherson plays Mickey, the model girl. Everyone probably knows her from friends. She's like the model that dates Joey for a little bit and that has a problem with Chandler and Monica.
Speaker 2:Okay, so they're not able to stay friends. I haven't seen that show in a while.
Speaker 1:It's really I usually go about every year. I'll just like, oh, let's start on this random season and just kind of go through it from there until it's hard of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, gotta watch all 17 seasons. No.
Speaker 1:And then you got Harold he plays Stephen. Then you got the boy Bart the bear. Hell yeah, bears sound scary it's.
Speaker 2:his little lip is so pouty.
Speaker 1:Like dang boy, we got some DSLs. Oh no, and LQ Jones, he plays styles. I won't really go through any of the other ones. They barely have lines. Yeah, style. I will say Gordon to to sis plays jack Hawk.
Speaker 2:I have no idea how to say that he's only in it the very last part of the movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I love when he shows up. He's like I'm like mother fucker, like where have you been? Could you have just not been home? Thing is when, at the point where Bob's like yeah, let's, uh, that's who I want to shoot, I want to shoot that guy. Like what, if he doesn't want to be shot, yeah, like he. Like you're not his best friend, you didn't call him, it's just he's raining. People gonna come up. Hey, you don't get on this plane and we're gonna take pictures of you, dog.
Speaker 2:It's like no, I love how cool Mickey was about it. He's like oh, we don't need models, our models are shit, we need this old guy Right.
Speaker 1:It's like she's like yeah, we do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sounds great I'm bone in both of you.
Speaker 1:Classic Mickey. You know, I was hoping that the twist of this movie would be Bob and Charles just become really close friends and they don't try to kill each other Because.
Speaker 1:I thought it was just going to be like a red herring the whole movie. It's like how that Charles is just paranoid that Bob and Mickey are doing something and Bob just obviously has a problem with rich people, yes, and finds Mickey attractive, but maybe they never did anything and like through this whole adventure they actually just become really close friends, which they kind of do in Charles eyes towards the end, weirdly. But I was really hoping it was just going to be like ah how two people who thought they were enemies became friends by almost dying from a bear and watching Steven get it.
Speaker 2:They have like a buddy montage at the end.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're all just walking around in their bearskins skipping. Mickey tries to hug Charles. Get out of my face. It's a police day. I thought that's how it should have ended. I was a little bummed out that Bob bit the bullet or the tree branch.
Speaker 2:I got laughed so hard when he died.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Why, I don't know. He's just all slumped over because he, because Charles, here's the helicopter and he goes up to try to get it. He looks back and Bob is just like slumped over. Like I saw a feel like when you're hungover and you don't want to get up, or like try to reach for the remote and you can't reach us, you just fucking give up.
Speaker 1:It's like, yeah, I can't do this you know what, Jason, that is just like surviving a week in a wilderness against a bear getting a remote controller, but you're too sleepy, but I absolutely know the feeling it's like when you fall asleep with the PS4 on, and it's almost every night. The noise is kind of annoying. It's 2am. I must bear this burden and just leave it on.
Speaker 2:You got the movie. I'm a sacrifice.
Speaker 1:I will just sacrifice a good night to sleep and just get zero REM sleep, but leave it on.
Speaker 2:You hear the intro music to the DVD. Like menu for like a thousand times I remember falling asleep.
Speaker 1:It was just some of us from church. We all stayed at someone's house that had a pool and we fell asleep watching Shrek and it was just. I remember waking up 500 times at night just being like, oh my god, why is Smash Mouth still playing? But you know, everybody at one point woke up and was like where's the remote?
Speaker 2:But we're also exhausted, because we spent like eight hours just swimming and like playing games.
Speaker 1:We're like well, this is our life, this is it.
Speaker 2:This is how we die. And then?
Speaker 1:I just remember everybody waking up in the morning just like someone shut the TV off. You just wake up singing Smash Mouth and everybody's like shut up and it was just I don't know where the controller went.
Speaker 2:So I hope they eventually found it.
Speaker 1:People just don't know the struggle, you know.
Speaker 2:Anthony.
Speaker 1:Hawkins and Alec Baldwin. They couldn't handle what I went through, but I did think about the movie or the show alone a lot while watching this.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Man, that makes me want to get back into that. Hell yeah, that's so cool. It's cool, but also, at the same time, it can be a little boring. It's not like survival, it's like survivor without all the fun, without all the games, yeah. And plus there's the one season where the guy kills a like Buffalo and oh yeah, just maybe it feel real bad about that for the Buffalo, yeah, it's like dude, get out of here. You're just trying to win a million dollars, go home.
Speaker 2:Just get a job, leave this Buffalo alone. It's not fair for him.
Speaker 1:All right, so some of the facts I got. I don't struggle finding really much of anything. So it's this is pretty much just all the trivia from IMDB, and there's really not that many that are like what Mind blowing. But Anthony Hopkins almost died filming this movie, whoa, yeah. So during filming in Alberta he was taking painkillers for a neck problem and he fell on a river and didn't feel how cold he was becoming until he began to suffer from hypothermia and he had to be rushed to the hospital to be treated. Dang.
Speaker 2:I know that like that happens a lot with hot tubs. I've never heard of it happening.
Speaker 1:Getting like hypothermia or just like falling asleep in it, falling like taking a bunch of pills and like you can't sweat, yeah.
Speaker 2:Sort of Maybe. What is it? I don't know, but there's something with drinking alcohol or taking pills and getting in a hot tub. You just kind of die. Yeah, you're not.
Speaker 1:Well, I think it's because you fall asleep and then you just kind of cook, or the hot tub falls off like turns off, and you just kind of freeze, yeah. But yeah, I have always heard that you're not supposed to drink or do drugs in a hot tub and you're only supposed to be in there for like 30 minutes tops. Yes, I can't do that. I can't stay in a hot tub for more than 10 minutes. I just become so uncomfortable and hot.
Speaker 1:But every time I try to take a bath at home, and every time I get in it'd be two minutes, be like. I feel so bad that I wasted all this water because I immediately want all of this. Just sitting in your own soup and then, like I just try to, sit there for 10 or 20 minutes and then, like I release all the water and I get up and I'm like I'm going to pass out.
Speaker 2:Jesus Christ so hot.
Speaker 1:There has been a time I almost did pass out from being in a bathtub. Dang, yeah, I'm just. I guess I just can't handle warm water. I don't know Too much bath salts, either that, or maybe it's high blood pressure. I don't know. What does it but it just feels so good when you get out and you're just like I have no energy.
Speaker 1:Anthony Hopkins was a weird way to say his name was suffering from a slip disc throughout filming and incorporated the pain he felt from this into his performance. Thing, is he just? He actually seemed like he was having the least amount of pain out of all three of them. Yeah, he was just like calm and walk, you could tell you had like a limp and stuff. But if he had a slip disc that would suck running around and walking into the woods.
Speaker 1:Jesus, they walked a lot, even though when they are running through the woods from the first bear attack, you never see Anthony Hopkins in frame running. You'll like see him for seconds and like that's definitely a step back. He's like oh yeah, I don't do that Versus you could actually see. Alec Baldwin and Harold doing it. So one of Bart's the bear's final acting roles before his death on May 10th 2000 at the age of 23. Dang, is he like a heavy smoker or something? Pick up your coffee. We're raising our glasses to.
Speaker 2:Bart, the bear To Bart.
Speaker 1:Bart, I hope you're. I hope you're in Bear Heaven. I hope you're watching Brother Bear in Heaven.
Speaker 2:Whatever the cartoon bear is Bear in the big blue house. We're Ashton Kutcher, yogi bear. Yeah, there's lots of bears.
Speaker 1:I hope you're there with all your bear friends and when your handler dies, I hope it goes to wherever you are and you're like oh, now how the turntables it turned. Now I run this show.
Speaker 2:His trainer's name was like Doug Seuss. Yeah, something like that. I thought I said Dr Seuss.
Speaker 1:Doug Dr Seuss. So the plane used in this movie that crashes is also the same plane used in Six Days, Seven Nights. That one's for you, Natalie. She likes that movie. Harrison Ford in I don't know whoever that one grows. Yeah, it's pretty fun movie. It's kind of funny but like there's some good parts, I enjoyed it when me and her watched it. This was the second movie in which Anthony Hopkins worked with a bear that also featured Bartha Bear in.
Speaker 2:Let's Know the Fall Whoa. So he and Bart were close pals. Yeah, they're boys.
Speaker 1:They go out drinking. Afterwards they see something. They just attack humans together.
Speaker 2:He pulls his face up like a deer.
Speaker 1:Anthony Hopkins is riding on a bear down the road. I want that so badly Awesome. So there was a bunch of different titles for this movie. First one was like Bookworm. Some other titles Weird, wild, wilder, the Wild, into the Wild Wilderness. Now Dead Hunt, all bad. I kind of like Dead Hunt. Dead Fall, kind of like Dead Fall. Dead Fall would actually probably been the best name for this because they say it 5,000 times Edge on the Edge. Bloody Betrayal, the Bear Ord. That would have been a good book title for it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the Bear Ord. I feel like a kid's book about Anthony Hopkins.
Speaker 1:Look at Bear, while some city photographer just wants to bone his wife. I think Dead. Fall would probably be my favorite title. That's what I think it should be called. Call it the Dead Fall, maybe. Sure, let's see any other things.
Speaker 2:Because they did fall quite a bit, I guess.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:They didn't edge a whole lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there wasn't a lot of edging, you pretty much just got it all. They didn't kind of hold back at all.
Speaker 2:I don't know the bear kind of edges the boys.
Speaker 1:I know, by the time you see the bear and it starts chasing them. I thought they were just going to walk by and see the bear and the bear was just going to keep walking at first, and then something happens to them. I thought they were going to cook some fish and then the bear's like my fish and then just bites one of them and then gets a taste for blood. This bear was just straight up out to kill immediately, yes, which most bears are, because they're territorial. So we'll just do this as my last fact. I have one fact about Alaska. Oh yeah, go ahead, it's cold Dang. Next, Okay.
Speaker 1:Let's see People driving right now are like I gotta shut it off. I'm just going to run off the road from not knowing.
Speaker 2:Alaska's cold.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they also have aliens in, like Bigfoot from the Alaska Triangle.
Speaker 2:That we went to yeah, that was cool, it's great. I didn't know there was an Alaska Triangle. It's great.
Speaker 1:The whole state's a triangle. Wow, amazing Last podcast and left. Wow, everybody is turning off the podcast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think they said that Amelia Earhart's plane may have been found.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I saw that Like just in the ocean, just like some parts of it. It's like how many times are we going to find parts of her plane? I feel like every five years there's a new article we may have found parts of her plane.
Speaker 2:No, you just found some junk. He don't.
Speaker 1:Dude, the lady just like crashed and she died. Like I'm sorry guys, it's just you know, like let's just hey, you know what the cool Jason? Take your coffee, let's lift our glasses up to. Amelia Earhart. He's pretending to do it. I'm actually doing it. Wow, I'm cutting all this, okay.
Speaker 2:Never feel sorry for someone who owns a plane Exactly.
Speaker 1:So this movie you shot number Alberta, canada, in freezing conditions. Elle McPherson was required. Oh my God, what has happened? I can't talk. All of a sudden, elle McPherson was required to perform one long scene in a Native American getup of beads, feathers and suede loincloth. That was a wild outfit she was wearing. Yeah, it was like immediately I was like, okay, this is obviously one of those things in a movie where it's like they have no idea how this photo shoots go because this looks so dumb and bad, it was ridiculous.
Speaker 1:She said you rehearse with a coat on and then you have to take the coat off. She says with a mock shiver it feels the coldest under your arms. You don't want to ever uncover your arms again. Working with Baldwin and Hopkins made up for whatever physical hardships McPherson had to endure. Baldwin in particular went out of his way to offer the actress some words of encouragement. Alec pulled me aside and said don't give up, girl, you just keep going, because you could really do something. Some interesting stuff down the line. Well, that's nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, At least it wasn't like.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna shoot you. I do like whenever. In that that trivia that I read, she's like all the physical hardships she went oh, hold on, he's dying over here. Jesus fucking Christ, he's on the edge, he's edging.
Speaker 2:My nose burns Okay.
Speaker 1:But I love whenever it says what is it? Working with Anthony Hopkins and Alec Baldwin made up for whatever physical hardships she had to do. She just had the photo shoot those same horses versus you have a whole Alec Baldwin and Anthony Hopkins out there and just falling in water constantly in the freezing cold of her to Canada. Last thing I'm going to say this movie really did not make its budget back, especially after advertising.
Speaker 1:So the budget was 30 million, probably more like 60 million If you take in the budget of advertisement and stuff like that. Usually you double the budget whenever it comes to advertising, but let's just say it was probably more like 50 million. It only made $43.3 million. No, which is weird, because I've never heard of this movie until we started. In this podcast you talked about movies we should do and then you had Kirby at work talking about this movie and I was like, wow, we really got to do this movie. Like everybody that anytime I brought this movie up and someone's seen it, they love it, they think it's like the best movie, it's great, it's this we would like. If you got this movie now. I think in the I can't remember the gray like whether the wolves were real or not, but it just be as bad looking CGI bear, except for the.
Speaker 2:Revenant.
Speaker 1:The Revenant had a great looking CGI bear.
Speaker 2:That was an awesome bear scene.
Speaker 1:That was a great bear scene. Spoilers for double feature for me, but it would have just been. It'd been terrible, but it looked bad. The backgrounds would all have been CGI, just been done on blue screen. They wouldn't even use real geese. Yeah, well, they didn't use real geese either.
Speaker 1:I will say, when the CGI kicks in in this movie it's like whoa, that looks like some bird dimmit geese right there, Some hell of a fake things. So before we get into the movie, I do want to ask a couple of questions for you. What is your favorite Anthony Hopkins film?
Speaker 2:Soft the top of your head. Well, maybe Silence of the Lambs, I don't know, I can't really think of a lot of them. Like, that whole character is pretty cool. I just loved him in those.
Speaker 1:I definitely think. Mine is also Silence of the Lambs. He just, I don't know, it's always. He's just great in that movie. It's also just one of the best horror movies ever made, or thrillers. What about Alec Baldwin? You got a favorite of his.
Speaker 2:I don't really remember a lot of his movies, but I like him.
Speaker 1:He's a great. I don't know, I really don't watch a lot of movies where he's the lead either, but he's a great. Hey, the guy comes in, he talks your head off for a few minutes and he's great, because he's like in all the Mission Impossible movies. He's great. I will say I watched the movie. It's Complicated with the Human. Meryl Streep and it's a no, not Norifron, what's the other girl? What's the other girl that makes all the movies? Nancy Meyers, obviously that's a really fun movie between those two. It's just like two really good actors just acting against each other.
Speaker 1:Are you acting like dance fight? Oh, he is in the Departed. He's good in that, but he's barely in it. Man, yeah, he's just a bunch of side characters in all of it. So I guess, if I had to pick one, that I guess I'll just go Departed as probably my favorite, even though he's no honestly, probably this one, yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean if he's the main character.
Speaker 1:I just haven't seen all the. I just can't think off the top of my head. And none of these movies are popping out, which is weird because he's such a popular actor. Just don't know much about him. Okay, anyways, you ready to get into the film, bro? Yeah, all right, so the edge, let's go. So we started in the airport. See a group of people they're all landing in Alaska and we see old Anthony Hopkins as Charles walk out. There's all kind of chit chat and there's some banter. Everybody's like kids. We made it, yeah, we did it. Anthony Hopkins character, charles. He's kind of weird at first. He's very Like people kind of say things to him, but he's just like walking like he doesn't care, and he walks next to this plane mechanic and he's looking out at the plane.
Speaker 1:It's because I like to get my hands on that. Anthony excuse me, and who is that that you're talking about putting your hands on? Because we, at this point, we've already seen, since wife Mickey and Charles talk about you know they're in a relationship. He's like, oh, no, I'm talking about the plane. It's like, oh, oh yes. Yes and then we learned through some Totally natural dialogue that Charles is a Charles the billionaire Charles. Here's the thing because the mechanic was like oh, you're the billionaire, I don't only know like four billionaires.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and even if I was right next to one, I mean they probably smell nice and that probably would mean they're a billionaire, but like other than that, I probably wouldn't recognize them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I wouldn't at all. Oh, so we get this whole spiel about how safe small planes are and how you know it's like, as long as you don't Run into a bunch of migrating birds like nothing should go wrong there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that probably won't happen. Yeah, his assistant is like pretty good, he's got a good one. Yeah, he's like I already looked at the plane. It's safe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's all good, I don't get anything with it. And you know me, I know planes, even though I obviously don't know anything about planes.
Speaker 2:But I learned everything there was to learn about planes on the flight over here.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's probably what Anthony Hopkins did, yeah, so Charles opens a present while they're on the plane flying to wherever they're going. We see that it's like a present from his secretary and the he's a book called lost in the wilds. It was a birthday gift to him. We also learn about Bob's new watch this is Alec Baldwin's character and we learned that he's a photographer. He has this great line. It's like oh yeah, you can tell two different time Time zones with this. It's like why do you need that? So I don't have to add three every time. I want to know what time it is in LA, low-key, pretty funny.
Speaker 2:It's a very funny movie. I thought it was very like there's a lot of highbrow like quips and call yeah and anytime like. Is this like?
Speaker 1:I guess I think so. It's just very New York based humor, maybe I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. We're just bunch of country boys. We don't know, we, we, we, you know what we actually more Resonate with the bear.
Speaker 2:Honestly, I'm going to New York later this year. Oh really.
Speaker 1:That's awesome. So we get great shots of a plane flying through mountains. So I'll be the only time we see this plane flying through the mountains and we won't see it 800 more times.
Speaker 2:They're edging you so hard. They really do Right.
Speaker 1:But it's great, love the shots of it, something we wouldn't get probably now or just wouldn't look as real. You know, just because they don't we'd color correct the crap out of everything. Now it's like, wow, this looks like a real forest. Oh, it's real forest. But then we see the gang. They land at this like big lodge area to say the night yeah it's great.
Speaker 1:I think I want to stay here, so rustic, but also I would not because I'm sure it's freezing in there. Oh yeah, so Bob sees a native American photograph. We learn that Bob is a photographer in Alaska to shoot Mickey. Jack Hawk Jack off, it's like Jack Hawk me off. Oh, that's gonna be a clip for sure. So the lodge owner, whose name is styles, tells Bob that he shot the photo himself because Bob's like wow, that's a great photo. See, that's what we really need, just like a photo like this, something real.
Speaker 2:Bits over here I.
Speaker 1:Just love it, cuz styles come up. Yeah, I shot that and Bob's like what you shot that, like. Yeah, it's just a portrait of your piece of shit. It's just a black and white picture of this guy, like it's not that crazy to shot. I Think it's just like the classic thing of a white man Seeing a native American in like his native American garb. In black and white it's just like this speaks to me.
Speaker 2:He's like I just have. I feel like I need to take something from this guy. I think it's just that white guilt, that whenever you see a picture like that, it's like man.
Speaker 1:That picture says a lot. It's funny because it is just like I can take that picture with my phone right now. And so, yeah, he's. So. Styles tells Bob that he took the picture in that he would actually be out there bear hunting with jackawk if it wasn't for all them being at the cabin, william with him. Styles, the lodge owner, talks to Charles and we learn that Charles is the smartest man alive, essentially.
Speaker 2:So yes.
Speaker 1:Challenges him to a game of knowledge. And Charles gets it right because he's like here, I got this paddle here. Tell me what's on the other side of it. And the side that we see has a panther. And then Charles oh well, obviously there is a rabbit smoking a pipe on the other side. Hell yeah. And then we learned that the reason the rabbit on the other side is smoking a pipe because he's smarter than the predator. Yeah, I see a lot of dead rabbits. They're not smarter than cars, that is for sure.
Speaker 2:I thought it was interesting to be called a blade. So is that what they called? Oh, is that? So what?
Speaker 1:he did like.
Speaker 2:Can you tell me what's on the other side of this blade?
Speaker 1:Oh dang, I just thought it was a paddle. It's just an ore. Yeah, maybe it was. Maybe that's what they call it in Alaska. But I do like the fact that this is foreshadowed, because immediately Bob's like oh yeah, why is that Charles?
Speaker 2:That was a terrible.
Speaker 1:Baldwin, I just had to try it for a second.
Speaker 2:But that's because Charles is the the rabbit smoking the pipe? Yes, he is the print our prank predator.
Speaker 1:Oh, he becomes the predator. Yeah, but the whole time he's like we're just waiting for his chance to strike so he can get Mickey. Yeah, this whole time Charles called it from the beginning.
Speaker 2:Yeah, probably merely knew he's like they talked once.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for real, it's pretty wild. So Charles says that all this knowledge is useless because he never gets to put it to any use. Then we learn that bears are around and they should Never leave your food uncovered, even inside, and tells them how to deal with a bear. You just back up, back up, just make sure the bear knows that. You see the bear. I don't think that's what you do, though. Yeah, I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I mean, I should have looked at us to make yourself look big and scream a lot and if you, if you do see a bear, make sure you tell styles, because He'll be on that bear like a duck on a June. Whatever, though, fuck that means I don't think they have June bugs in Alaska right.
Speaker 2:That's okay. I guess it still works, it's. It's weird Cuz ducks love to eat June bugs.
Speaker 1:Is that?
Speaker 2:what it is, I guess they lucky bugs?
Speaker 1:That's actually probably what it is. That's actually why you're so smart. Okay, charles, over there.
Speaker 2:Charles, charles, I'm talking to you, charles. Can you answer me this, charles? Why don't you?
Speaker 1:make eyes or fire eyes, charles. What do you suppose we do now, charles? Why are we talking like that? Love it, though. So we also see a weird interact. They're all like all right, we're going to bed. Now. We see a weird interaction between Bob and Mickey. I'm sure that won't come in. We just like goes and whispers to her and it's like she pushes them off. Very flirty kind of Thanks. That's our bear in the room here.
Speaker 2:Stop.
Speaker 1:It's just stop, buddy, you won't get played with cuz. Do what outside? Sorry, so we get a scene with Mickey and Charles. It's. It's a very weird scene between these two. They have this very weird relationship. She seems super interested in them but also, at the same time, is not grasping the same, like I don't know. I don't really know how to explain it, because she's all flirty to him. He's just like no, yes, oh, I have so many facts about things and she's like you're an angel without the wings. It's like this weirdly cheesy romantic stuff, but just Charles is not playing into it at all. Definitely seems like he's the one that's not giving like any sort of Love in the relationship kind of weird.
Speaker 2:He's just like still fully clothed was be gorgeous. Wife is getting Cuz.
Speaker 1:I thought like maybe this was gonna be a situation where it's like well, actually, I mean, he's Charles. This is not a good at relationships and that's why Mickey doesn't want to be with him, cuz he seems to, because she's just trying to have like a flirty conversation. He's like do you want to know why my secretary gave me this book? She's like dude, like chill, okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I'll see.
Speaker 1:But she flirts with him a bit and then ask him to go make a sandwich. He's like bitch, that's your job. I the bear didn't like that and he heard it from outside the window Kill this man for you, mickey.
Speaker 1:So he goes to make a sandwich but notice his ham left out and the kitchen door wide open. It's a tense scene where he slowly closes the door and locks it. He doesn't slow, he slammed that shit Well. Well, at first he's like oh yeah, walks up to it real slow. I'm like run, hurry. Why are you walking slowly to the door if the bears in there already you'd probably know he's in there making a sandwich, charles make me a sandwich. So he finishes up the sandwich and, boom, get scared by a bear.
Speaker 2:But it's Bob real Bear noise the Alec Baldwin, Really good job.
Speaker 1:I didn't know he could do that. He can add that to his repertoire, but it's actually Bob in a bear suit. It was his birthday surprise, but the man almost dies of a heart attack. Bob's like Jesus Christ suits. Sorry, charles, charles.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, charles Charles.
Speaker 1:Charles. He thought everybody forgot and he definitely thought his wife forgot. I'm assuming that's probably why, actually now thinking about it, he's so standoffish when he's talking to his wife in the bedroom. Barak, a pop out at any moment. No, cuz he didn't think she remembered his birthday. Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2:So go ahead. No, no, I don't know, I was just so. Bob is very tense. Moment, the ham.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's kind of wild the tensest Second you know he didn't get out the ham himself, but he started making the sandwich, like is he just gonna make a tomato and cheese sandwich?
Speaker 2:I was gonna get the ham that somebody left out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, bob ends up making a speech. It's not that important really. I mean just like oh, you're the best, charles, you have so much money, money, money, money.
Speaker 2:That's all I think about.
Speaker 1:Mickey gives him a gift of a pocket watch with an engraving to my beloved husband on his birthday from the luckiest woman in the world.
Speaker 2:It's a pretty watch too. I've always wanted like.
Speaker 1:I've always wanted a pocket watch too, yeah, but then I'm like I would never carry it.
Speaker 2:I don't know if I would either, but it's cool to just be cool to have yeah, then we see Bob give him a nice pocket knife.
Speaker 1:I love pocket knife.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this one never own any, but and this is like a bare skinning knife- yeah, sharp as great as soon as this.
Speaker 1:All that knife is like. I bet that isn't coming play at all later, but he doesn't use it. The entire movie.
Speaker 2:We. I thought it was kind of cool. He said when he gives someone a knife, I wonder if that's a real thing. Look, a real tradition. If you give someone a knife, you have to give them. Someone gives you a knife, you give them a coin.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because after this style is late, oh, you have to give him a coin now, otherwise it's bad luck because it's gonna cut through your friendship. But I've never heard of that. But I have heard that if whoever opens a knife has to be the one to close it. Where it's bad luck, even though every time you buy a knife they're always open, who the hell open this? I can't close it like, yeah, cuz there's been two times that I bought a knife in my life and both times they're also from the same place that I bought them, because they had nice knives there. And so the two separate times I did it both two different people they're like um, here you go, can you close it? I'm like, really, I Literally had no bad luck from doing it, or maybe I did the guys like missing two fingers on his hand?
Speaker 1:Yeah, can you please do it? I've only got three fingers left. I can't lose another one today. Dang dude, you gotta learn how to close this.
Speaker 2:You did get a different job.
Speaker 1:So, and then after this, everybody turns in for the night, so everybody spent five minutes. They scared this old man to death. Seeing happy birthday, give him two gifts, like well, that was fun, happy birthday, dude. See you. It's like dude, you couldn't celebrate it all day. Yeah, I'm just like, okay, well, it's gonna get off this Jetset and all day.
Speaker 2:I know, definitely wouldn't what do you give a billionaire on his birthday?
Speaker 1:a pocket watcher.
Speaker 2:I guess. So it's like what do you call the king on his birthday? Birthday King, arshole. What cuz he's king. Every day of the day of the year he's an asshole.
Speaker 1:That's the day you're allowed to call him an asshole. That would be fun on my birthday. Everybody, be mean to me. Everybody's like. He's always the meanest after his birthday cuz he takes it out on us.
Speaker 1:Gets the guillotine to sharpen right so after everybody goes asleep, styles and Charles are still kind of just Hanging out at night and he's like some. Some girls brought some broad there. You know she's hot as hell, is that your wife? Huh, charles like yeah, why? She's very like, excuse me, but it is a weird thing for him to sell, say, and.
Speaker 2:But it's just like more paranoia build between Charles and everybody is very paranoid and, yeah, probably for good reason.
Speaker 1:I will say some people are saying some crazy things about his wife in front of them, yes, or Him thinking like, wow, why was it? Why would that mechanic say that to me? But I'm so horny for planes styles is just like I. I just want to know who everybody is with obviously styles like. I know why she's with you. We then cut to Bob and Mickey and the rest of the group. They're taking pictures outside. It's real cheesy. These look like terrible pictures.
Speaker 2:She's like snapping back. Yeah, it's so bad.
Speaker 1:But Mickey and Bob they have like a real kind of cute relationship though cuz like while shooting, like they make this weird, they start doing this weird like European accent older Can I do this, governor? She's like no, madam, you can't. And then, I don't know, they kiss on the cheek. It's real weird. But then Anthony Hopkins sees it, charles, and Looks at him. But Mickey immediately sees it and like blows a kiss back. She's like I'm not doing anything. Weird, yeah, it's weird how much that they aren't realizing that he's noticing it.
Speaker 2:I guess. I mean they probably do that all the time. They work together a lot. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I guess I mean still weird. That's why I was just like hopefully it's just like a kind of a talk, like two people that work together a lot and our best friends Still holding out hope maybe they're not sleeping together not the case but, Styles walks out, he's explaining that Kodak bears are the Most dangerous bears and that, though they get a smell of blood, they'll come, they become man eaters. Eaters, these man eaters. This coffee is Blowing my mind here making it way harder for me to talk.
Speaker 1:So Bob and Steven. They argue because their model is sick and, like some of the shoes look bad. Bob has an idea and decides that he wants to shoot Mickey with jack Hawk, and Charles also says that you can use a banana peel to clean shoes apparently immediately go get a banana peel on shiner shoes.
Speaker 2:No, I don't have shoes to shine.
Speaker 1:I don't hear, not that type of shoes I do, but I just not gonna put a banana peel into my new balances. Yeah, you just put them in there, let's see what happens. He's just gonna put them in there. I don't think that's what he's meeting, but he asked styles where he is and that they're gonna go and try to find them and see if he wants to take some pictures with them. Find this guy in the middle Of nowhere, right.
Speaker 2:I mean I guess.
Speaker 1:I guess their plane driver probably knows the area well.
Speaker 2:I would assume you mean pilot pilot oh, they just don't call him plane driver.
Speaker 1:I don't know, bro, my mind's going a mile a minute Because of this coffee. Charles tells styles that you can make a compass with a needle, because he's just reading out of his book, and Styles like oh.
Speaker 1:Cool, anyways. So I'm trying to build this huge giant resort. Do you think you give me 40 million dollars? And but he doing the whole speech I guess Charles is thought he was bringing all this out to show him and not ask for money. Everybody wants his money and insane thing. But soon as he says, oh, it only costs 40 million dollars, charles, like oh, so I thought you're just being polite, styles. Like obviously not. What the hell are you talking about? You're fucking money, old man. At that point I was like maybe Styles is gonna try to kill Charles.
Speaker 2:I know, because when you see styles the first time you see him on the dock waiting for them.
Speaker 1:He looks kind of you yeah, cuz he has all marks down his face. And then, after this scene, charles goes inside and Styles comes in and they make eyes at each other.
Speaker 2:I'm like, excuse me, styles looks like he's kissed a few bears in the mouth.
Speaker 1:He's like I'm gonna make sure your plane goes down and I'm gonna sleep with your wife.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's waiting for her.
Speaker 1:So Bob plans to fly to jack Hawks, bob's and vice Charles to go on the adventure. They're only supposed to be gone for two hours. Charles agrees to go. Bob, behold the mighty hunter. Yes, there's more shots of planes flying edge, plane edging, a lot of plane edging the land. They land at jack Hawks. He's out bear hunting out to lunch. The note of his door like. I'll be back in three days. I went to go find a bear to kill.
Speaker 2:The most rat scratch out the word fuck.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but kill.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So Charles finds a death fall trap for bears. Bob decides to go find jack Hawk. He also which will come into play later takes the note from jack Hawks, which is very rude. Yeah, it's his note. Yeah, what if someone else was looking for jack Hawk? Yeah, man, why do you need the note? Bob can go jack Hawk himself off and then we get more plane shots. Yeah, because whoever filmed this movie? I should have looked up the director. That was my bad.
Speaker 2:It was directed by someone, the other and this. This time they're going to go. Look for jack Hawk.
Speaker 1:He's like 20 miles north.
Speaker 2:I wish his name was Jack me off now.
Speaker 1:I know that's. It's very distracting. His name is jack cock.
Speaker 2:In the in the army, our battalion was called the black Hawks. Oh yeah, so if you say black Hawks three times fast, you end up saying black Hawks, black Hawks, black Hawks, black Hawks, yes.
Speaker 1:So on the plane, bob brings up Charles's money. He's obsessed with it and that he feels sorry for him. And this is where we get the classic Charles line never full Sorry for a man who owns the plane, mm-hmm. Bob says he also admires his wife and how beautiful she is. Then Charles decides to ask oh, how do you plan to kill me? Yes, then bang some dang.
Speaker 2:CGI birds fly through their. That was wild, I jumped out of my chair.
Speaker 1:Yeah it is very like it's a definitely a jump scare and it's great, and they crashed into some water and I would immediately died touching cold water.
Speaker 2:It's so cold. I love, just like the birds hitting the propeller was so cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, that's how they took down the plane in the Hudson too. Oh really. Yeah, that plane that uh crashed with it crash, landed in the Hudson River.
Speaker 2:What was?
Speaker 1:the captain's name.
Speaker 2:It's uh, Jack Sparrow.
Speaker 1:No it's similar. I can't remember a lot of souls saved that day. So Bob is able to make it out of the water, but he didn't like check on anybody but the pilot, because that's all he cared about someone that would be able to get him out of the force, essentially Right out of breath, and then he just immediately was like screw you, two him out. But Charles, being the greatest man to ever exist on the planet, and charge, save Stevens and also grabs the flares like a you see him look at the gun.
Speaker 2:He's like nah.
Speaker 1:No, I think he's, because he's like I don't want that because I'm gonna get shot by Bob, because he really thought Bob was gonna kill him. So they drag Steven out and resuscitate him. They Um, they're successful at it. Charles asked for matches to make a fire because they're both freezing, and I love when he asked for the matches. And Bob unzips this thing and you just see how shaky is. But it's almost like the sound of the zipper was super loud and I was like is the zipper also chattering at this point? It's that cold.
Speaker 2:The zipper's like they call those the the teeth, right when the zipper goes. Yeah, the zipper teeth, they're just chattering.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it was just extra loud and a little shake. And I know it's probably because it's handshaking, but I just saw the idea that even the zipper is like fuck this dude, I got the boom mic like inside of his jacket.
Speaker 1:It does sound like it's a pretty wild sound effect. Um we, there's only a few matches. It looks like seven or six of them. They try to make a fire but they're struggling with the matches because they can't get it lit. I'm assuming it's probably just a little too young, they like the match, and then they like the piece of paper. Yeah, and it just it's not catching anything on fire they didn't put down any like Kindling. Yeah, they should put kindling in a lot more like fibrous material. Yeah, yeah, something like that.
Speaker 2:I mean there's like the stacked little kindling stacks of wood like you don't have a little fibrous material. I don't know.
Speaker 1:I feel like later on, charles later on, I guess, figures it out because he makes like five fires after this with matches, um, and bob just being kind of the Brute he is, it's like screw this, uses a flare. Yeah, bob, we're gonna need those for signaling. I was like shut the fuck up, dude, this guy this boy over here like about to die.
Speaker 2:He's freezing.
Speaker 1:Man, I'm cussing a lot during this episode. Okay, it's that freaking coffee. It's that coffee. It's like you're just worse be aggro. And plus it's like I just saw tomb infight a bear just a few hours ago. So the next day they let the fire run out. Classic mistake.
Speaker 2:You never do it, and I love how these bob is like well, looks like I let the fire run out. Whoopsie daisy I feel like there's a lot of whoopsie daisy's. And nobody's really pissed that of them, for I mean, I guess they didn't know well, I mean it's like they all fell asleep.
Speaker 1:I mean it's like they all let it go out. Um, charles says they need to build a signal fire. Charles says that when they go to jack hawks cabin Look, he says that when rescue goes to jack hawks cabin, that they're gonna be like. See the note and they'll come back and get them so they can just stay still and just build a fire, and then, oh, but then bob's like you mean this note it's like man, there's some weird sound effects all of a sudden for this movie.
Speaker 2:This is a slide whistle.
Speaker 1:Bob says they are in for a walk now. Charles says most people lost in the woods die of shame because they don't do what they should do. They don't use their dog because they just sit around saying I should have done this, I should have done that. Why did I do this?
Speaker 2:I love how, whenever Stephen heard that they had the walk, he's like what does that mean?
Speaker 1:Yeah, you kidding me, I'm from new york. So Charles makes a plan. He says that they just need to travel south. So Charles makes a compass with a needle and he just takes like a paperclip. He first asks for Um, bob's watch, but bob's like no, it's broken. No, no, mine You're not looking at this he takes a paperclip, rubs it on his clothes and puts it on a leaf that's in water, and we see the leaf move. The leaf point north, so they know which direction is north and south. Now Bob is unsure, though.
Speaker 2:He goes. That was a stick.
Speaker 1:He's like pointing any direction. It doesn't feel like south to me, charles. It doesn't feel south to me, charles. It was so funny, but I think the thing is he was right.
Speaker 2:Right because maybe a buckle, I guess yeah, interfering with the but. I thought that like the magnetism is so I mean, I guess. But yeah, it could happen. Sure, yeah, but like the magnetism that that little paperclip would pick up Is so just lightly magnetized, yeah, I don't feel like it would pick up. You wouldn't think that it would pick up the belt.
Speaker 1:But you know this movie's not 100 accurate, but we'll just go with it. So they're off. They stop for a minute to drink some water after walking.
Speaker 1:It was a bear compass, bear compass. So after they stop to drink some water after traveling a while, bob brings up Charles saying bob is planning on to kill him. He says he Like, he says he would do it for his wife. That's what Charles says. Charles says he's seen how they act when they are together. Bob's like no, that we're just, we just work together. Bob asked why would he want to antagonize a powerful guy like him? It's a weird tense conversation. He also has this line it's like oh, that's a heck of a way to get a girl. Oh, get it with a girl and gotta kill the husband first. Like that's something that would work out. And he talks about how it's like oh, I can get girls all the time back in new york and stuff like that, a ladies man and then, like essentially it's a tense conversation, bob plays it off like they're joking.
Speaker 1:He tells him that the rich are different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel like they are kind of like. They seem like they're like. Charles kind of accepts it and he seems like, okay, and we're friends, he's not gonna kill me. Yeah, but I don't think he's 100% believe Until he's always gonna be a little later once he saves on me, he's like oh yeah, you're, you're good.
Speaker 1:So they continued and they stop again. Charles continues the conversation with Bob about his wife. He calls Charles paranoid. Um, they said that they should all get in a hot tub later and just bear their feelings bear. He says he wouldn't kill him because he needs them to get out of there, and then they hear the bear. This is a pretty funny conversation, though, because I didn't write down the whole thing. Um, um, but I don't know.
Speaker 2:It's just alleyball.
Speaker 1:That's very funny in this video.
Speaker 2:He crushes it.
Speaker 1:Um, so they see it. It's a codec bear like that was brought up earlier in the film, and it sees them Taking pictures with one of those little throwaway cameras. Yeah, and so they all decided it's time to run. The bear looks awesome because it's a real bear, it's a real bear.
Speaker 1:It's great, it's part. They stop when they think they ran far enough from the bear, but it's still coming. They make it to a river and they have to quick. Charles quickly is like Sets up this thing with them to help, like boost up the tree and they're able to push it across the river.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was like holy crap. How'd you do this? Thank god these branches were around here right now. The tree looked heavy. Yeah, it looks super heavy, but they're able to get the bridge put together quickly. Stephen and Bob make it across that. Go as slow as possible, um.
Speaker 2:How's Charles not like the bears like feet away from him and he's not like come on, fuck, hurry up, hurry up, hurry up, hurry up Go.
Speaker 1:Why is this like they're all so nervous about walking cross? I'm like I don't know crawl, then just do it faster than this.
Speaker 1:Um, stephen and Bob make it across. Like I said, charles starts walking cross the bear starts pushing on the tree, like that was cool. This causes Charles to fall. He's like strap length hooks onto the tree branch. Great bag, yeah, thank god for that bag. Hold the weight of a man, um, but Stephen and Bob are. Then the bear keeps pushing him and then eventually, charles falls into the river. Stephen and Bob are able to save them, but not before losing the flares. No, bob says that they have six matches left after this.
Speaker 2:I thought it would have been so funny, like when the plane crashed and you see, like there's a picture of the, there's a shot of the, the book that he got floating in the water. I just imagine a bear swimming through the water eating it. I don't look a shark.
Speaker 1:Yeah, these are my flares and then, like later on, like you, just from now, like it morphs for the bear and now the bear is like a fire. So after this, charles seems to be kind of giving up because he's just like I lost the flares. I can't believe I lost the flares. I lost the flares. Bob and Stephen are trying to snap them out of it. Charles can't believe that Bob saved him and is very grateful. I really like this moment because, like Bob, you saved me and Bob's is trying to play it off and he's like no, bob, you like try to like hit some on the shoulder a little bit, you saved me. I'm very grateful.
Speaker 1:Um, charles is really down on himself for losing the flares. Stephen brings up Shame is the reason people die in the woods and Charles finally kind of starting to snap out of it. Yeah, then they get to a mountaintop, they build a signal fire and stay for the night. Um, but the next day it's like no rescues come. Charles is just out there, like on the mountaintop, just kind of looking around, and then Charles is like let's go, just starts walking, doesn't even wait for them.
Speaker 2:They look at each other, but Charles or Bob and Stephen, they're like the fuck.
Speaker 1:They probably should have just stayed there. I think they would probably. Eventually they'd been found, probably the next day. Really, the bear wouldn't have gotten them because it's probably been too high on the mountain. Yeah, there's, I guess. I mean, it seems like to me Not knowing anything else.
Speaker 2:They also thought that they were going the right direction. Yeah, they did think that they were gonna end up walking out of it.
Speaker 1:But they should have just stayed. You know, they should have just stayed because the idea is that eventually they would have found. They would have found jackhawk and be like where were you?
Speaker 2:I was like northeast from here, set the forest on fire and it they will find you, they will find you that is, you know later on, whenever they start throwing fire all around.
Speaker 1:And now he's like, hey, that's a great way, they'll find you that way if you start a forest fire and I'll say, yeah, but then you're in a forest fire, but you would be warm, you'd just be running some flames at that point. But I guess, since it's Alaska is such a wet area that you run from bark with a fiery stick in his mouth.
Speaker 2:Yeah something.
Speaker 1:God, terrifying a bear with the flaming stick.
Speaker 2:It's like Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1:So they continue traveling until they realize that they just traveled in a circle and ended up back where they crashed. Charles like ah, this sucks. Charles said it must have been the belt that messed with the compass. Bob and stevens are freaking out, even takes the paperclip. Steven's like well, we're all gonna die and we have nothing to eat. So great. Charles tells him to make a spear, but this is just to distract him. He says, even if nobody finds them, that they are going to walk out of here no matter what.
Speaker 1:Bob is kind of antagonizing Charles a little bit. Charles asked if they should just lay down and die. Should we just lay down and die, bob? I loved it. Whenever he started screaming I was like hell yeah, anthony Hopkins, let's go, because he's been so calm and cool. I think, just for a second. Charles breaks for a second. It's like I'm trying to save us here. All y'all are doing is complaining yes, um. They hear Steven screaming in turns and it turns out that he cut his leg. It's like this giant gas. Why the heck are you cutting towards your leg, man?
Speaker 2:Yeah, not a lot of experience with knives. Yes, I'm at it's.
Speaker 1:This huge Cut looks gross and awesome. Charles bandages his wounds and tells bob to bury the bloody rag. I'm sure he does bury the bloody rag.
Speaker 2:I had a friend who was playing um, you know that game that we put your the knife and you stab it between your fingers. He was playing that with a stick knife on his leg. I wonder if that's what Steven was doing. Like that literally makes him he stabbed himself in the leg, doing this like every time he went to step. Why no, he just, he was just like Softly doing it. And then he one time just went and went right to his leg.
Speaker 1:Wow, I won't lie that guy is a dummy I. I played that game before on a table or something in red dead redemption yeah, only in video.
Speaker 2:It's the LTV. I'm not gonna do it for real.
Speaker 1:So that night Steven thanks Charles for saving him. This I really um the character, the Harold, the guy that plays Steven, like he crushes this scene, like the just genuine, like honesty that he portrays as an actor in this scene. It's really great. He seems really calm, he's really appreciative, charles, and I don't know. I just remember watching this both times. Like man, this guy just crushes.
Speaker 1:He's a great actor yeah he really is Making me want to watch Lost again. So and Steven thinks Charles is alright. In a very thoughtful man, he asks how they're going to get out of the woods. He tells Steven that they're going to follow the stars because he points out the constellation he's like. Now we know that this way is south. I wish I could do that. I know I. When they showed the stars. I just see license.
Speaker 1:I have no idea what you're looking at. I know a few constellations like the easy ones I can find the Big Dipper and I can find the North Star.
Speaker 2:The big one, there's a little one too, and then there's Orion. That's like my. That's the extent of my own scroll.
Speaker 1:I only know the Dipper and the North Star, because the North Star is bright, but like, is it brighter?
Speaker 2:Is it a lot? I can never find that.
Speaker 1:It always seems like it's yeah. It's usually the first star you see at night too. I wish I may.
Speaker 2:I wish I might.
Speaker 1:By the way, that doesn't work. I've tried it before. I've tried it before.
Speaker 2:Sometimes. But like I see stars, I'm like maybe that's the North Star. It's pretty fucking bright, but how do I know?
Speaker 1:That's true. I could be just looking at Mars, I don't know. It's a pretty big star. And so they said they're going to follow stars instead. It should work better than the compass that they made. Bob says all this puts. So he goes and like, hangs out with Bob for a second. He's just got his feet in the water like an insane man. Bob says this puts everything in perspective, since it's different than snorting Coke off girls hips, hip bones, sounds fun. And so we see and oh yeah, after he says that, after he says the line, it's like it's different than snorting Coke off girls hip bones, charles in what way?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was funny and I was like yeah, charles, I like this, you're loosening up a bit. Hell yeah, later that night a rainstorm comes and that's the worst possible thing. And Stephen isn't doing so well. Bob is wondering if he's going to make it. Charles notices, but while having this discussion, Charles notices the bloody rag just right next to camp in a tree.
Speaker 2:But he's also like I'm going to go stand out in the freezing rain for a sec. Be right back.
Speaker 1:Well, I think he's just trying to form a plan, I don't know, looking around hoping he sees something.
Speaker 2:Can't talk about the dead guy next to the dying guy. Yeah, it didn't really make a lot of sense, right?
Speaker 1:They just needed a place to whisper, I guess. But so Bob says it doesn't matter. Why does it matter? I threw it up in a tree. Was the bear going to come climb up a tree? No, but the bear will come and we'll see, you guys. And this is when our boy, stephen, here's the bear and, in one of the best scenes in the movie, gets attacked by the bear. See, I thought the bear was going to come running, he was going to cut away and we're just going to see Bob and we're going to have this silly little puppet. But here's the thing that bear straight up comes after him, bites him. We get a little bit of puppet work. We also get a little bit of dummy work where the bear is just like shh, manhandling him. God, it is amazing. I looked at it and I just turned it in and he's like that was holy crap. As soon as that happened I was like I get why everybody loves this movie. I get it and I love this movie.
Speaker 1:But so he takes a bite out of Stephen. Charles is trying to scare the bear away with a fire. The bear's like nah, dude, I'm eating this boy. Bob tells him to stop and Bob's just like books it. But Charles stands there because he's still wanting to save him. But he just watched Stephen get eaten and killed.
Speaker 2:That's the other head of the slug and then he runs away.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the way I don't. Everyone would die being eaten by something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just being slung around until you go unconscious. Maybe, I don't know, it's like after this scene.
Speaker 1:I was like I'm never hiking in the woods, sorry, Because we have to worry about mountain lines. I drive to work sometimes, you know, whenever you go past the bowling alley, through ADC and you have all those apartment complexes and stuff, yeah, and then you walk across a mountain line. What?
Speaker 1:Just walk across come in those apartments across the road into like the little forested area like a few trees, and I was like dude Got like a toddler in his mouth. I mean. I was like thank God it's four, like 5 am, otherwise people are going to be like outside waiting for a bus and there's going to be a guy being mountain lion out here, yeah.
Speaker 2:Early to bed, early to rise, you know Jesus.
Speaker 1:When I saw that, it was one of those moments. It's kind of the moment in collateral. Have you ever seen that movie with Tom Cruise and Jamie Foxx? Yeah, there's a scene where I think Tom Cruise or Jamie Foxx they see the coyote and it's supposed to be at this thing, where it's like, oh, he's like like he's a coyote too. He's just out at night just scavenging or whatever and just working to whatever goal. And I saw that mountain line. I was like I'm the mountain as I'm driving in my Prius on the way to work freezing in my car because it's cold out.
Speaker 2:It's fantastic, Mr Foxx, when he does the power hand to the bull Exactly.
Speaker 1:You should listen to our episode on Vendasta, mr Foxx. You have not. So it's the next day. Now they're sitting in this giant snowstorm trying to stay warm.
Speaker 1:It's like this great long zoom in shot of them all just like they're just like shivering Like this sucks and they build a fire and Charles says they will have to travel by night and follow the stars. Charles says they will have to walk out. At this point he doesn't think that help is coming, because Bob's like are you sure no one's going to come for us? He's like no, bob asked what they're going to eat and Charles says I'm working on it. Then we cut to this trap. We see a little trap that's being held on in like a giant, like string, I guess that they're holding onto, and we see a squirrel eating a nut and then, like, slowly, the squirrel's getting, goes and gets under the trap and Charles pulls it and they're like, yeah, yeah, they're psyched. But then they heal their helicopter. They try to chase it, but are they able to catch it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I thought it was so funny when he just jumps, he just like once he notices like the characters not going to find it.
Speaker 1:He just like falls. He's like no he's like I just just kill me now, just kill me now, but yeah, so the helicopter doesn't see them. Charles says it probably won't come back, even though he's been wrong almost about every single thing at this point.
Speaker 2:Wrong and right also at the same time. Was it before? I think it was. Was it Stephen that was saying are they going to find us? And then Bob says something like of course they are. He's a billionaire. You know what happens when you're misplaced. One of those.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's true, though I mean, there's so much money to go on the forum. Mickey's probably back at home. It's like I didn't really like Bob. Charles is kind of boring me and now have all this money. You know they're dead, let's just call it in, she's fine, yeah. So we see Bob starts to lose it and Charles is trying to calm him down by asking if he knew that he can make fire from ice.
Speaker 1:Bob starts going off on Charles for being rich, Just start saying a bunch of mean stuff. But eventually Bob starts calming down. He asks how do you actually make fire out of ice? And Charles says you mold ice with your hands and use it as a lens with a sun. They said they should be good because all they will need is the matches. And that's all that they'll need, because you're only going to be gone for a few more days, yeah, I think they said there's like five matches left at this point.
Speaker 1:So they continue walking. They finally find a river. Charles decides that he's going to make a fish hook with his watch and some string. He, like, uses gold as the bait. This is gold. The whole world yearns for it.
Speaker 2:Bob, I'm not, I'm not in.
Speaker 1:I'm not up for your jokes.
Speaker 2:I'm hungry.
Speaker 1:I'm hungry and freezing While trying to fish. So we see Charles trying to fish. There's a fish in there. He almost takes the hook but he doesn't. Charles shows here's a branch snap. He looks to his left and then he immediately looks to his right and there's Bart the bear. It's funny.
Speaker 2:He was like how did that bear sneak up on the hand? Yeah, no, it was so quiet. He looks at the bear.
Speaker 1:He's like, oh, hey, bart, he's like eee that's a weird lip thing, and Charles books it, baby. And this is what.
Speaker 2:I love to see when he's running through the woods.
Speaker 1:You got all the seed.
Speaker 2:He's like he's dodging the trees and then the bears is running.
Speaker 1:This is plowing through all the trees and of course all the trees are like little CGI trees and I love they make a specific point to have one branch break off and just like take up the whole frame and it's hell of CGI and I'm like why didn't you just not do this shot? It's been way better. Charles gets away by jumping through almost kind of like a blockade of like branches that is falling and the bear couldn't get through it.
Speaker 1:That bear would have easily destroyed that or at least jumped over it. But, charles, this helps Charles get away. He meets up with Bob who built a fire in the woods, and they start throwing sticks that are on fire all around them and make a giant circle around them. Charles says that they're being hunted and stalked, that the bear isn't going to go away, he's just waiting for him because he's ready to kill, because he's a manhunter, he's toying with us, yep. And Charles says that they are going to use their spears and when the bear attacks, they're going to use the bear's body weight against them to kill them, kind of like the death fall trap.
Speaker 2:Luckily he had that note that they took from Jack Hawks with the picture of the guy killing the bear in that exact way.
Speaker 1:Yes, a little illustration. It's like very lucky that they saw that. But hey, jack Hawk would have that because he's a bear hunter. Bob doesn't think he can be done, though Charles says that if Bob just wants to die, then lay down and die. But Charles isn't. He's trying to pump Bob up and it works. I'm going to kill the bear. I'm going to kill the bear. Yes, I'm going to kill a bear, so sorry.
Speaker 2:It would be so anticlimactic if he'd burped. Just burped, my bad. Oh, excuse me, I'm going to kill the bear.
Speaker 1:And then we end this scene with a great close up shot of Sir Anthony Hopkins Today. I'm going to kill the motherfucker.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's awesome.
Speaker 1:I'm going to kill a little bit. Hell yeah, and we get the best scene in the entire movie. Right here they wait with their spears and they're trying to lure out the bear with the blood because he cuts his finger and wraps it around Every single time. They always go for the hand. I know it's always. I'd be like ooh, I'm just going to cut, like maybe like my shoulder area something that's not super tender and just make it slight cut. Yeah, just a little, but they always in movies go for the fingers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if you cut your tongue it heals back almost instantly. I ain't cutting my tongue and it bleeds a lot, so, like grr, you know, nope, not doing that.
Speaker 1:That's the same thing for you to say so when the bear comes out, they lure the bear into their little trap they have. And because they back up, they're backing up. Just like style said just keep backing up.
Speaker 2:They try to see it. They tried to home alone this bear.
Speaker 1:They obviously watch return of the Jedi.
Speaker 2:It's awesome.
Speaker 1:They're Ewols, trips or traps, but so essentially they created like a giant, like spiky ball of tree, it's a rock, and then it's got a bunch of spiky spikes on it. How they had all this time to build this.
Speaker 2:Yeah that was pretty.
Speaker 1:I was like a lot, but I did love it and I was like I was so excited. I was like, yes, this is how they're going to kill it. It swings down.
Speaker 2:Well, it's got the little what the X of sticks yeah.
Speaker 1:I love it.
Speaker 1:It's like they had to make sure the bear got there, bob. It's uh, what do you call it? He engages the trap, so the thing goes to swing. That bears like yee, just slightly, moves his head, just enough for that the thing. But as the spiky rock thing is coming back, it does stab into him, but there's not a lot of power behind it. But it does hurt him. It's like, but I don't think that was the thing that was going to kill him. Anyways, I think that was just supposed to slow the bear down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe just piss him off enough to where he'll stand up, and I love the. Is this their plan? Their plan was to jump off this ledge and fall down.
Speaker 1:I think their ultimate plan was to hope that that killed the bear enough to make the bear run away and not kind of chase him. But plan B was they're going to run back to the river and try to like spear it to death. But once the trap doesn't work, they lure it back to the river. They're going to fight it off. In spirit, the bear gets the upper hand and nearly kills Bob Um, and he's like all over about to just rip Bob apart.
Speaker 1:Charles gets chased but Charles goes up and stabs it. Yeah, then Charles is getting chased by the bear, but while the bear attacked, charles sees a chance to like wedge his spear into the rocks and the bear goes to jump on him and he stabs him. Yeah, he just falls. This scene is so tense, though, cause it's just you're hearing the bear roar and it's I'm assuming it's a real bear roar, because there's just noises that you didn't think you would hear in the bear roar. For a second I was like wait, is this a real bear roar? Cause I thought I heard a pig for a second.
Speaker 2:Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1:I've never heard a bear roar consistently for like five straight minutes, you know, so it was really cool, though, and it's just. This is what movies are about, just things you would never thought you'd have seen in real life and you get to experience through movies. Oh yeah, cinema babies, love it.
Speaker 2:I think you see the Charles on the ground. He looks dead yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's just. I was like I wonder if he had a heart attack. I know he got lucky that the bear fell slightly to the side of him, cause I was like, well, you killed him, but now you're dead. So later there it's kind of like we get a long like zoom out of them just leaning on the bear. You got the little puppet bear.
Speaker 2:Yes, I loved it, though, right before they killed him, they're like, they're like going at him with spears and the bear is just like back hands the shit out of him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's great. Well, I love it. Every time they cut to a wide shot of the berries, just like swiping at them from a distance, I'm like God, that's so terrifying man, I'm never going outside my house. But then we cut to a little later and they're cooking the bear. They're getting along. They're seeming super friendly towards each other, but Charles seems super unsatisfied.
Speaker 2:I know How's he not super psyched about killing the bear? I?
Speaker 1:think he like after he did it Well. So to me, I think there is a little bit of dissatisfaction for him having to kill a majestic creature like that.
Speaker 2:I mean that sucks.
Speaker 1:I felt bad as soon as that bear was dead. I was like, yeah, I guess, but like, but, I get it, you're alive now. And I guess he just thought that I mean, like he just did like the crazy things ever going to do in his life. Hell, yeah, now he's in a drenel and now it's left.
Speaker 2:Nothing.
Speaker 1:Nothing. And then he makes a joke. It's like he's like. You know, it's called self. Bob says it's called self growth. And you know, if it was a week or two ago you'd have you've seen that bear, you'd have called your lawyer. And then Charles is like I would never do that to an animal. It's really funny. It's great they're getting along.
Speaker 2:Love my ass off. I love how they're all barred up. Yeah, after they've got the kiss, yeah.
Speaker 1:After this you just. Next time you see them, they're just in bear costume seasonally They've sewn together bear outfits and made bear necklaces.
Speaker 2:It's awesome.
Speaker 1:That's exactly what I do too. We got all this bear meat.
Speaker 1:Let's just take a couple of days and let's just look awesome, look fucking fantastic. We're fashion people. It was kind of a good place to kind of set up camp, because you know you had the river. But you also is like, oh, I bet like a helicopter would follow the river. Maybe, if they're searching for them, they start making their way. Uh, following the river. They're dressed in bear skin and are real woodsmen. Now Charles says that he's never met a man who actually changed their life, but when he gets back home he's going to change his and Paul's like good. You can be the first one to ever do it. Yeah, as they look off into the distance.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And so, while walking, they find a small hunting lodge that looks completely abandoned. It's like covered in cobwebs. Yeah, it's like a treehouse. Yeah, outside the large lodge, charles finds a deadfall trap, but they won't come into play. Essentially, they raid the place. Bob finds booze and a gun Two things that.
Speaker 2:Bob does not need right now Charles finds matches in a map.
Speaker 1:I just love it. It's like the juxtaposition of, like what the two are thinking. Charles is thinking survival, warmth, how to get out of this place. Bob, I need booze and I want to make sure I have a gun in case a bear comes, or I'm also going to kill Charles.
Speaker 2:Well, I think you kind of see, the moment he decides to kill Charles is when they put the canoe in the water. Yes, that's the exact moment. It's like all right, we're going to live.
Speaker 1:Time to kill the old man Because honestly, I think that it's the booze like starts talking.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I think it does. I think, he's starting to realize, like I'm a little drunk, I really want this guy dead.
Speaker 1:So much courage, right now I'm his wife and I have the gun. Hmm, I guess you do this. So they check to make sure the canoe floats. Charles is going to bowl some water and we see Bob contemplating leaving Charles or killing Charles, because for a second I was like maybe he's just going to get in the canoe and just get back and be like hey, um, charles didn't make it, sorry, just hope Charles never makes it back. But Charles is trying to make a fire and pulls out some paper from his knife case. He sees a receipt for his pocket knife. The same day that Mickey bought Charles's watch, bob also bought the pocket knife with her. But then we see a third item purchased. It's a wristwatch with engraving from Mickey to Bob Thanks for all the nights. I'm not a bracelet, talking about both Mickey and Bob.
Speaker 2:I love how this is all in one receipt. I guess they bought it all at the same place, I know.
Speaker 1:At the same time I was like so, mickey, you just I'm assuming. But then he gets the receipt, so he knows that the watch was bought and I'm like what is the situation that y'all did.
Speaker 2:I wonder if the guy like engraving these two items was just like reading both the notes and like oh shit Is it? Oh snap, dude, this is spills of tea Like on lunch.
Speaker 1:he's like dudes. You aren't going to believe what.
Speaker 2:I just did.
Speaker 1:We got a little threesome going on over here. Bob comes back into the lodge and everything seems pretty tense. Bob is loading up the rifle and he's doing it very intimidatingly and Charles is kind of prying out a little bit of information at a time about Bob and Mickey. You just see Bob, he's like tapping the bullet on the rifle, just really trying to contemplate whether you should do it or not.
Speaker 2:I think he's already decided.
Speaker 1:Well, I think there's a time where he's like I think, just when he's tapping the bullet on the gun he's like should I?
Speaker 2:should I and he's like?
Speaker 1:load up the gun and while looking at the receipt, charles asks to see Bob's watch. Charles knows that Bob is going to kill him and just essentially brings it up because he's like to Bob or to Mickey from Bob Thanks for all the nights. Bob's like you shouldn't torture yourself, man. It's over for you. Bob says that Mickey is just with him for the money, otherwise why else would he be there?
Speaker 2:That's why.
Speaker 1:Bob hates people with money.
Speaker 2:I love coming up next when he's pointing the gun at him. He's like you would have died out here without me. You and I'll hear a wealth.
Speaker 1:Why is talking about Bob and like, while Mickey is with Charles? I just you can see it. Whenever you all go into an airport you can just see everybody say saying this there goes a man with a plane, really obsessed about a man with a plane in this, this entire movie.
Speaker 1:Jelly Jelly. Bob says it's over now and then they should just go outside and get this over with. Charles wants to know if Bob was with her from the start of their marriage. Bob starts losing it, but then Charles lures Bob near the deadfall trap and while talking to him, he lures him into the pit where he falls and his leg is stabbed.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, I was laughing. I laughed at this too, because he looks down there and Bob's like I think my leg's broken. You can see the spikes stick up there, just reminding me of Tommy boy when he was face, but not so much here. Not so much here, but right in here.
Speaker 1:Make sure to check out that episode.
Speaker 2:It's very funny episode.
Speaker 1:I'm sick the whole time during it. So Charles, being the ultimate good guy ever in the history of good guys, climbs down to save him. When he gets them out, he takes them back to the cabin. He's trying to dress the wound, but Bob is so bad off that he eventually passes out.
Speaker 2:Charles grabs a book from the first day he loses the belt and the blood squirts out.
Speaker 1:He's like that's a lot that I'm missing there.
Speaker 2:I kind of need all that I know, charles, I don't feel good, charles, charles.
Speaker 1:I was like dang, this is must be where Tom Holland got his acting inspiration whenever he's about to turn into dust in Infinity War. But Charles grabs a book from the first aid cabinet and doesn't panic and just sits down and starts reading the book. It just kicks back with a magazine. Yeah Well, because he knows he could panic and Bob dies, or he could read this book quickly, learn how to treat the wound.
Speaker 2:Just waiting for Bob to die.
Speaker 1:And maybe they can both make it out. So Bob wakes up eventually and it seems that Charles is taking care of him. Charles tells him he is going to go get him out of there. They traveled the river on the canoe. Bob seems like he's going to die. Charles takes him to land to warm him up. Bob says the only reason Charles is keeping Bob alive is because he's Charles's only friend. A guy who tried to kill him, and Charles was like I wouldn't have, you wouldn't have done it. Bob's like yeah, I would. I don't know if he actually would have, though.
Speaker 2:It's hard to tell he was afraid he didn't want to do it. Looking at him yeah, so we'll see.
Speaker 1:But yeah, that is kind of sad. Charles has no friends because of wealth. I think that kind of goes back to earlier with Styles. I think he thought, oh, Styles has talked to him a lot, he really respects him. And then he comes out and hey, do you want to give me $40 million for? This resort and he's like ah, that's why you're being so nice to us and letting us stay here.
Speaker 1:I think you can just buy a friend. Yeah, just buy a friend. Sure, so Charles thinks he's here as a helicopter. For a second During the conversation, bob asks what Charles will do when he gets back, and then Charles says I might not go back, hell yeah. He's changed, he's just going to go build a cabin in the woods. That's probably all he's going to go do.
Speaker 2:Bob says that he is done With living a cabin, with living a bar, yeah, with him a bar.
Speaker 1:Bob says that he's dying and he never. He never did a goddamn thing. Bob then apologizes to Charles for everything he did. Bob tells Charles that Mickey was never in on Bob killing him. Um then, I love, during all this you got a great shot of Alec Baldwin. It's like a really close up on him and Bob. It's a face that I've never seen someone make. But yeah, if I was about to die, because you see wary, sadness, regret, like all on his face, just in the one shot I'm like I'm like, geez, dude. I like Baldwin, Good actor, Cool when we hear. But so during all this we start to hear a helicopter getting louder. Now Charles is trying to wave the copter in. He then throws like some tree needles, Like just cut some tree needles off, and it makes the smoke rise and with a big gust of wind the smoke catches the copters. John Sightse, I don't know why I'm raising my hand and they are now rescued.
Speaker 2:But as soon as you see the helicopter turn, you're like yes, you did it. And then the bear jumps out of the water and eats it. It's the helicopter.
Speaker 1:But when? So now they're all going to be rescued. But when Charles checks on Bob, he sees that he's dead. And it's kind of sad and I laughed. Yeah, oh man Me. I was like, oh, I just wish they could have been comforted.
Speaker 2:It's just like at their Charles gets up and runs to flag down the helicopter. It's almost like Bob's Bob goes. I'm coming too, oh dang.
Speaker 1:So we see Charles, he makes it back to the lodge and everybody's waiting on him Styles, Jack Hawk, his wife and a bunch of press. And to styles he walks up to him. Why is the rabbit unafraid?
Speaker 2:Because he's smarter than the Panther Smarter than the Panther.
Speaker 1:Charles Mickey sees Bob being carried off the helicopter and he's all wrapped up. She knows that he's dead. Charles goes up to her, hugs her, then hands her Bob's watch. In the press they start asking a bunch of questions and the movie ends with what happened to them, sir? What happened to your friends? They died saving my life. Yeah, man. The end.
Speaker 2:Kind of the opposite of what happened, though. Yeah, exactly Because he tried to save all their lives. I know, but I think he's just like a good dude to the end.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think Hughes is trying to give them all the attention and Right, right Give him credit.
Speaker 2:You're like you know he's, they wanted what he had and he pretty much, you know he had everything and he had the courage and yeah.
Speaker 1:He's kind of he's like, but they died.
Speaker 2:So I mean, what's he going to do? We like no, I tried to save him.
Speaker 1:No, actually I killed a bear.
Speaker 2:I killed a bear.
Speaker 1:I tried to save them. They were all idiots. I got to cut himself making a spear. I don't know why I cut towards his leg. Oh, bob, been sleeping with my wife Felt. It all Try to kill me. So I had to Try to save him anyway, save him. And then he died on me anyways.
Speaker 2:Cause he's easier to be like they. They did that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:This movie.
Speaker 1:They died trying to save me. This movie was really good.
Speaker 2:And he's so emotional.
Speaker 1:He was. Well, you know, I just feel like when you try to kill somebody and they get the upper hand on you and then they save you, you're like God dang, it. Couldn't I have just died at least then, cause now I got to live with this feeling for the rest of my life.
Speaker 2:But I love, right at the very start of the credits they thank the bear.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love it. I love it. Great job. Thanks for anybody Thanks to bear.
Speaker 1:Everybody should be thinking bears all the time. Great movie. So glad you recommended this and I hope everyone else enjoyed this movie If you've never seen it. And now we're going to move on to our categories. Our first category is the good, the bad, the ugly, the fine. It's where we discuss the good of the movie, something that we liked, the bad of the movie, something we didn't like. The ugly of the movie, something they didn't age well. The fine is something that did age well. What do you have for the good?
Speaker 2:For the good. I liked how they kind of introduced all the really tense moments with I just kind of out of nowhere, like they really get you by surprise, and it's super cool. I liked it.
Speaker 1:Right, cause it is crazy, cause, you know, especially at the beginning, you know they're stuck out in the woods and like at first it's they're in the woods, like it's kind of fun. And you know it's like, oh, these city boys are going to try to survive in the woods and you know, if you haven't seen this, it's really fun. She's like, oh no, they're just, this is going to be a survival movie and even though there is all this talk about bears and it's obviously it's going to be a bear movie. But you know, you really don't know until they're like running through the woods and then they see the bear and it's like man the stakes of this got so much bigger all of a sudden, the bear is just so fucking sneaky, yeah, always sneak it up on him.
Speaker 1:I know Sometimes it's super loud and it's like crunch, crunch, crunch. And then there's times where Anthony Hawkins is just by a river and all of a sudden there's a bear right next to him. It's like how did that one happen? I don't know. You know what? Just any movie, if you, if it's you, just need some stakes, they're all bear in there somewhere yes. It works, I don't know.
Speaker 2:It's attention grabber, it's just you know, creates tension.
Speaker 1:Having to, you know, survive against something that is unstoppable and you just have to out with it. It's so much tension and it's nice. It was great. My good was obviously bears. Bears are awesome, Alec, Anthony and Harold. Their performances in the woods Great. They're all great. That's my good. What do you got for the bad?
Speaker 2:The bad. Uh saying Charles a billion times. Like if we all talked like if we all said the person's name who we were talking to, every sentence everybody listening to us, though it's like, oh, this Christ.
Speaker 1:They said Charles three times more than him I did, and all my notes almost had it in every sentence multiple times. I was like is this a good name? I don't know.
Speaker 2:My bad was the CGI I didn't even really, I never noticed it.
Speaker 1:I didn't really stop to think that was CGI, those tree branches breaking, but the birds that was over so fast.
Speaker 2:Like you, barely have time to think about it. I noticed it hard.
Speaker 1:Because they're like we're flapping.
Speaker 2:I was like that's a hard bird to flap their wings. But it's okay.
Speaker 1:It's like a 1997 movie. You know a little bit of CGI. It was so little of it that it wasn't that big of a deal.
Speaker 2:Can they just really, can they just throw in a goose into a blunder for real ass effects?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they have to have them flying, all right. What do you got as the ugly of the movie?
Speaker 2:Ugly man. I guess like thinking that the whole idea that Jack Hawk really needed his picture taken.
Speaker 1:It's like just assuming people want their pictures taken, and maybe he did. I'm sure he would have Jack Hawks probably. I just feel like hanging out with styles like him and him and Jack Hawk are probably like we gotta find out how to make some money right here. Man, my ugly is Alec Baldwin, since he just got found guilty of manslaughter Apparently bad with guns, yeah, Cause of all on the set of rusts he, I guess, shot that woman Well he didn't, and the someone else.
Speaker 1:Well, it's pretty much all yeah, but they also, instead of having the proper safety and them trying to rush the set and, you know, not having the proper budget for safety and stuff like that, so they cut corners and died and somehow Baldwin's not in jail. He keeps getting found guilty, but he also keeps not going to jail. So he was on SNL last year and it was super weird and like nobody was talking to him at the end.
Speaker 2:I was like why is Alec Baldwin here? He is, there is going to be another trial. The trial is happening soon, so he may end up.
Speaker 1:He's just going to keep having trial after trial. How many times do you have to be found guilty?
Speaker 2:They found new evidence that the gun was something about it. How it was rebuilt, I don't know, oh okay, we'll see.
Speaker 1:I still I don't fully understand how, because this would be the second time that I read that he was found guilty and I'm like how many times do you get found? Guilty when you're a famous actor until you go to jail. Right, he's more guilty, all right the fine. What is something that aged well for you?
Speaker 2:Oh, bears, I think there's any kind of it's almost like a monster movie. It is, but it's, but it's like natural. I don't know. I just I love the big bad. Yeah, having a big bad, no.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. I love you Bear, mine was bears yeah, and also movies on location, yeah.
Speaker 2:Looks great. This movie is beautiful. It is gorgeous Even though it's not really in Alaska.
Speaker 1:Yeah, canada it's practically the same thing. It's all woodsy and cold. So we're going to do our next category, which is double feature. That's where we pick a movie that we think will go well with this. Do you got any? You go first. Well, so I have two. I haven't seen one of them, but I just thought people being attacked by animal that movie with Idris Elba called Roar or whatever it's where they're being attacked by, that might be the wrong title. So I'm sorry I probably shouldn't even said this one, but they're in Africa on like a safari thing and like a giant line attacks them and they just got to kind of survive and get you by one.
Speaker 1:And then I chose the Revenant. Yeah, Revenant.
Speaker 2:Classic bear attack movie. Even kind of gets so fucked up by that bear yeah it's awesome Twice.
Speaker 1:I love that movie. That's a movie that it seems that in movie podcasts that I listen to they're always like that movie shouldn't have won Best Picture. It's overrated and whatever. And when I watched it. I was like what are you talking? About this ruled. It puts you in like a different world and it did it so well and it's beautiful. The acting is good, Directing is good. I don't know People just like. Maybe they're just being pretentious about it. I'm not sure.
Speaker 2:So yeah, those are pretty good double features. I can't really think of one off the top of my head. I keep thinking of movies, but I can't think of the names. Maybe Kujo. Kujo is also a very dog attacking two people he heard his bad dog.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, good very bad dog Well that's okay.
Speaker 1:I mean, hey, we got three right there. You can split it between the two of us. Yeah, it works Okay. So that's the episode for this week. I think that next week we should just All right, let's pick between two movies. Should we do Step Brothers or should we do Bargo? I would rather do Fargo. We're doing Fargo next week. So make sure by the time you hear us next week, next Friday, you watch Fargo, one of the best movies ever made in the history of the world by the Coen Brothers. I'm so excited to jump back into the Coen Brothers world the Coeniverse. But let's do the Coeniverse, so we'll get. That's the episode this week.
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