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Fantastic Mr. Fox
Ready to embark on a whimsical journey through the world of Wes Anderson's Fantastic Mr. Fox? Would you like to traverse the charming landscape of this 2009 film masterpiece and meet the all-star cast headlined by George Clooney, Meryl Streep, and Bill Murray? This podcast episode is your golden ticket.
We'll take you through the heartening narrative of Mr. and Mrs. Fox and their thrilling escapades. Marvel at their cunning plans to keep their family fed and chuckle at the comical interactions that unfold between them and the other quirky characters. We'll shed light on Mr. Fox's internal struggles as he questions his life choices and battles with his instincts, along with dissecting the personalities of each character that makes the film such a joy to watch.
In the climax of our discussion, we'll unravel the exhilarating showdown between the Fox family and the farmers. We'll put a spotlight on the film's poignant themes of family and survival, and how these themes resonate even in the most comical of events. To wrap up, we draw the magical parallels between the narrative techniques of Fantastic Mr. Fox and other films, adding a rich perspective to your viewing experience. So, sit back, tune in, and let's take a delightful romp through this fantastic film.
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Hello and welcome to the we Recommend podcast, a movie podcast, where every week we recommend a movie for you to watch and then come back here and listen to us discuss. I'm Jesse and I'm Jason. There's a lot of attitudes going on around here. Don't make me get one Watch out. This week we recommend Fantastic, mr Fox.
Jason:Fantastic, yes, fantastic.
Jesse:Yes, fantastic, wow, that was really good. Fantastic, mr Fox, a 2009 film. When did you watch it? What's your first time watching it?
Jason:It was a couple of years ago, but I also watched it this morning and it was awesome.
Jesse:It's a great fall Thanksgiving movie, so beautiful.
Jason:We're doing it one week too early. It's just to get you pumped for Thanksgiving.
Jesse:I think this is my first West Anderson film. I think so, and when I first saw it I was like whoa. No, I'm sure I saw a role 10 in Bones first, but I don't think I watched the whole thing back in the day because it used to come on Comedy Central all the time. But man, fantastic Mr Fox, it's such a beautiful movie.
Jason:It is so it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.
Jesse:It's like the perfect kids movie that adults can watch. Yeah, it's great, it's deep, it's beautiful, it's fuzzy. Yeah, I was telling Tyler from work. He was like oh, I haven't seen that. It's like dang, get with the pro and I was like dude, it's on HBO. If you have kids, you guys, your kids just set them down in front of the TV and watch it. It's easily something kids will love, because it's this little rodents running around, I don't know. So what is it about this movie that you like?
Jason:Just from the very beginning it starts off, it just looks fuzzy. Yeah, you see there's miniatures, and I'm not usually a miniature type person.
Jesse:Yeah, Usually, when I first met you, you said hi, I'm Jason, don't talk about miniatures.
Jason:Yeah, I did, I did say that. But I love this one. I say it's so good and like everything. Just I want to hug everything in the movie except for Boggess and Bean Bunts and beans.
Jesse:Yeah, they're gross looking. They made all the humans look as ugly as possible.
Jason:Okay, well, bean reminds me a lot of my father-in-law too. Oh really he used to be a chicken farmer. He's not that ugly and he doesn't drink constantly or smoke, is he the meanest of them all? It's just the way he looks All skinny, bald head.
Jesse:It is such a classic looking older guy, yeah, but man, I do want to try that cider he's got. It looks so delicious, it tastes like melted gold. Melted gold, like melted gold.
Jason:That was a terrible way of referring to his rap.
Jesse:So this film is directed by Wes Anderson. We just did like two, three months ago, ashwhite City. I went back and re-listed that episode. That was a banger of an episode. Man, that was a great movie. It's actually nice to go back and listen to our episodes. Once I'm months away from it, I'm like, oh wait, we got a little thing going on here. So it was written by Wes Anderson and directed by Noah Baumkamp. Do you know anything about him?
Jason:No, I just know that when they showed the book, the guy holding up the book by rolling the doll.
Jesse:I actually didn't. I completely forgot about that. When I was re-watching this I was like, oh, it's a rolled doll book. Yeah, never knew that. Yeah, me neither. But so Noah Baumkamp. He is the writer and director. He's done movies Marriage Story, adam Driver and Scarlett Johansson. I love Scarlett Johansson. Francis Hall have you ever seen that? That movie's amazing. I've never seen these movies. And the Squid and the Whale I have seen that one. Yeah, that's Noah Baumkamp.
Jesse:It's also a Jesse Eisenberg. That's one of the. That's a badass movie. If you watch that, it's like him and Wes Anderson are like made for each other. Because, they both have that dry sense of humor and even Noah Baumkamp does pretty well with family stuff. But it's always like family's breaking apart, which I guess kind of is Wes Anderson's dude. They're kind of match made in heaven. I love the Squid and the Whale. Jesse Eisenberg's in that and he's hilarious. That movie's so dry and funny, just like all of Wes Anderson's stuff.
Jason:It's very. What does he say deep?
Jesse:or something Deep, it's very deep no, not deep it's like I don't know, I don't know it's all right. So this film stars George Clooney. I was going to try to do George Clooney impersonation but you know what? I have not the voice for it. It's got a really deep voice and you really can feel it in this. Mrs Fox is Meryl Streep.
Jason:That was great. That's the first time I recognized that.
Jesse:Really.
Jason:This morning yeah.
Jesse:Whenever I watched it a couple of nights ago, I was like wait, who's this boy, who's this voice? Who's voice is this? Badger is Bill Murray. Yeah, love him. Ash is Jason Sorgeman and the rat is William Defoe.
Jason:That was. I didn't realize that either, so it was such a good character. I know I'm like I want more rat. I thought it was a weasel at first.
Jesse:I would love for them to come out with a prequel. And it's all rat from like as a child to both, leading up all the way to the fact whenever he decides to take a job for beans. So in the book the animals and the humans don't talk to each other.
Jason:Do they talk to each other? In this one, I know they write letters.
Jesse:Yeah, they write letters and there's one point where it's like you got me, I got you surrounded Fox. He's like I don't know, or something like that.
Jason:I know, but I feel like they never actually communicated. They were talking at each other at certain points, but I wasn't sure if they actually had.
Jesse:like that's actually a good point, Because I'm not a hundred percent sure either how much they're actually talking to each other.
Jason:He's like you took everything. We're like oh, they were going to shoot anyway, oh bro, I got, I got all that written down.
Jesse:We're going to get to it. I love it. So, writer, producer and director Wes Anderson, he to get the audio, so whatever you listen to this and you hear like the animal speaking, it sounds like what it would sound like if they're in this situation, Like if they're talking in a field. It sounds like they're talking in a field, oh cool. So what he did is that they went on location to to recreate like an increase the naturalness of it, so like if they're in a forest. They went out into a forest to talk if they're like, and so essentially they went out into forest.
Jesse:The addicts into stables, went underground for something to record a dialogue to get like a better sounding and to sound more like what it should sound like if they're actually foxes and stuff.
Jesse:Cool, yeah, that was really cool. I remember watching the behind the scenes for it and, just like Wes Anderson and George Clooney just sitting in a field just recording, I'm like that's so funny man, I love it. So when Mr Fox and Kylie are in the Fox's study going over the plans for the heist, fox is sitting in a large armchair with a board on the armrest that he is using as a table for his microphone. That's exactly how a role doll used to write his stories based on all the photographs. That's fucking cool too. I like that. I just realized Wonka is coming out soon which is another role.
Jesse:Yeah, timothy Chalamet's Wonka. I was like oh, who's going to be Wonka? Timothy Chalamet, oh, I was like beautiful little man. His SNL was great. We watched his SNL this past week.
Jason:It's so funny.
Jesse:Man, we're going to have to do Charlie and the Chocolate.
Jason:You should watch all three of them and then.
Jesse:Man, that second one, that was rough the Johnny Depp one. Yeah, it was great and not great.
Jason:I agree.
Jesse:The Oompa Loompas. In the film the Oompa Loompas, they go off. The music is so wild. It's just a wild movie. It's insane. I actually didn't hate it. I didn't either.
Jason:I didn't hate it.
Jesse:I was weirdly transfixed by it.
Jason:Yes, strangely, there's some ideas here. Yes, I like them and I don't like them. I don't know.
Jesse:But nothing beats Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Yeah Right, that's what it's called. Yeah, charlie.
Jason:Grandpa, you could walk this whole time.
Jesse:You asshole. It's like that man across the face. That's what I do. So Roald Dahl's Fantastic Mr Fox was the first book writer, producer and director of what Anderson owned. His mother, texas Ann Burroughs, bought it for him at the St Francis Book Fair in Austin, texas, when he was about seven years old. Anderson has kept this cane copy on his bookshelf ever since. That's pretty cool. That is cool. That was one of his. Like I really didn't know anything about Fantastic Mr.
Jason:Fox. Until this movie we used to read.
Jesse:Roald.
Jason:Dahl in school and stuff, and I never saw this.
Jesse:I've never read a single Roald Dahl, charlie. I had his books growing up, but I never read any of them. So all together there's 535 puppets made for the movie. Mr Fox had 17 different styles alone, and each of Mr Fox's styles had to be done in six different sizes. He has 102 puppets alone. That's awesome, yeah.
Jason:Jesus Christ. Talk about a tedious job, yeah Wild. I can imagine Just the amount of work that goes into something like this.
Jesse:All the hair they had to put on those things Apparently they used. They were like using real fur and stuff like that, even like hair from people on set, nice, that's what gives it that, that the like, whenever you look at them, like they do close ups how the hair looks. Yeah, every time that they'd go to talk, you like change it so much and they were wanting to do that so that it looked better and more sleek.
Jason:But he's like no, yeah, I think the coarseness of how it looks kind of helps.
Jesse:It's like. I like that there's a little jankiness to it. At the same time, it's cool. The more jank the better. I hope this isn't like a bad word, I don't know, Is jank a bad word?
Jesse:I don't think so. So throughout the movie the word cuss is used in place of actual cussing oh, buddy. When asked about its origin in a radio interview on Fresh Air with Terry Gross, wes Anderson said I don't even remember. I think it was just to use the concept of profanity as a replacement for profanity itself. It turned out to be very versatile. I fucking love it. And, keeping with this theme, one of the buildings seen in the movie bears a cuss written as spray-panic graffiti.
Jason:Natalie pointed that out to me.
Jesse:That's cool. So I love this movie because it's almost it's like a thief with a heart of gold movie. Yeah, it's like Ocean's Eleven, and I don't know what's another movie, what's another? Oh brother, we're art, though but with foxes, and I'm trying to think if there's another Steven Soderbergh movie with George Clooney and JLo JLo. Yeah it's so good. What is it George? And like Three Kings was another, like thief movie with Actually, I've seen it because that's got Spike Jon Out of sight. I've seen it. It's so good, oh I don't think I've seen it.
Jesse:Yeah, I know it's shocking. I know it's shocking. I've seen three kings, I believe. I think I have to remember.
Jason:They had their own Kuwait and they steal the gold.
Jesse:Yeah, it's like, but it's I don't know, it's such. It's just a kid's movie with so many adult themes, like midlife crisis, crisis, crises however, how you say it individuality. This is like exploring all those things and I love it.
Jason:Yeah, it's super deep and just beautiful.
Jesse:It's like it makes you feel sad. Yeah, two moments from like actually, there's really like three or four. I'm like don't cry, don't stop, jesse, you're taking notes. You can't cry right now, get your ankle away. It was just funny because we were watching Pressure. Look last night. If you're, it's the one with the Whammy's.
Jason:The game show, yeah, the game show, the Whammy's.
Jesse:And man, there was this contestant on there and it just seemed like every time she kept winning. So much money is crazy and every gift possible. But every gift she was getting was perfect for her One of her kids that was like on the spectrum and one of her kids that are getting engaged and it's just like the more she kept winning, the more she kept like kind of breaking down. And then Elizabeth Banks started breaking down and I look over a little bit and Natalie was kind of like holding back a little bit and.
Jesse:I'm like, oh God, this is the best game show I've ever seen in my life.
Jason:This is the episode I've ever seen this has never happened. But anyways, no Whammy, no Whammy, no Whammy, no crying no crying.
Jesse:I hate the Whammy's.
Jason:They're so mean they're so cute?
Jesse:No, they're not. Someone nearly lost over $100,000 in the Whammy's. Just like making fun of them, I'm like I'll kill you, whammy, if I could get my hands on you.
Jason:Anyways, this is a podcast about Fantastic Mr Fox. Now it's about Whammy's.
Jesse:I'd love to start a game show podcast.
Jason:I'll be sick.
Jesse:Where we just watch a game show every day and then just talk about what happened.
Jason:We need to go over there own games.
Jesse:It'd get like five views. Are you ready to get in the film, man? Yes, All right, so it starts off. We see a little. What would you call it? A lullaby, not a lullaby A. It starts off with a little poem at the beginning no, no, no, bogus and bunsen being One fat, one short one lean. These horrible crooks, so different in looks, are nonetheless equal to mean. But really cause beans is way meaner.
Jason:Yeah, he's way meaner. I feel like the other two are just kind of stooge's.
Jesse:The other two. They're just like I don't know. He just stole like a couple Like I don't know, we have plenty of chickens. Like, we don't like them. But what are we going to do? You know this.
Jason:We're not going to blow up the whole hillside this is life.
Jesse:But they're too scared of beans. He's scary. He's as scary as he really is. So we meet Mr Fox by a tree. He's stretching, looks like he's getting ready for something, and then we see this hot babe walk up, mrs Fox, foxy lady. So we learn that, mrs Fox, she had to go to the doctor. For some reason they're on their way to steal some boys.
Jason:Felicity.
Jesse:Fox. So she wants to go one way, but he suggests a different way and she just gives in. It seems like this happens a lot.
Jason:What we'll soon find out is, it will.
Jesse:And then we get the classic, which is the coolest thing ever. So they're going to a squab farm. It's like what's a squab chicken? I don't know, he asked for advice from Mrs Fox, but he's like, actually let's just do it this way. He says, hey, what's wrong with you? Like you look skittish. But then he like starts complimenting a lot, her a lot, it's like.
Jason:It seems to be like. Hey, we're going to do whatever I want but don't worry, you'll get some compliments out of it and then, as a line, you look like you're glowing.
Jesse:And he's like she is no longer like a puppet. It looks like a little like statue looking thing Just blowing.
Jason:It must be the light or something.
Jesse:It's so funny, that's so clever and good. That's what actually happens when you get pregnant. Oh really, you're no longer a human flesh, you're just like a statue. Yeah, you're glowing inside You're just like a little bit of a fun lamp. That's cool. I wonder if they've lamped at these.
Jesse:I'd totally get a Mr and Mrs Fox lamp, so then they make their way from to stealing the squabs. It's this amazing stop motion shots where it's just like like a very panned out shot, and then you just see them kind of running around doing clips and stuff and it looks so good, sweet. As you see, like the farmer, like working on things throughout the farm, so they get the birds. But Mr Fox sees a trap and he's like, oh, what's this? This must be a spring loaded trap.
Jason:Really Just in the strap.
Jesse:You know, I bet it's going to fall right over there. Come here, come, stand where I am, let me pull this chain. Pulls it lands right over. Why? Why would you do that? You're away, you did it. He's too confident, you don't have to worry anymore. So she then, as he does that, he's like oh yeah, I wonder. I guess it's not spring loaded, she just drops the bomb. I'm pregnant.
Jason:Yeah, he does that teethy smile.
Jesse:He's like Toothy green oh, we're going to have a call.
Jason:I'm so excited.
Jesse:She tells him you have to find another line of work. Cut to two years later or 12 Fox years later. So funny, I know. So we cut to them. They're living in a Fox hole. He has it. He's like a newspaper columnist columnist, right, that's what he is. Yes, but he doesn't think anyone actually reads this column. We meet Ash, their son. He doesn't want to go to school. He is exactly like me. I'd wake up. I don't feel good. I'm dying.
Jason:I threw up? No, you didn't.
Jesse:He just spits on the floor and he gets mad, I'm mad, I'm grumpy, I'm weird and I spit. Ash is my favorite character. I love the guy, I love his pajamas yeah, he's so. He's so cool. So we learn that Chris Salferson is coming to stay with him. Ash doesn't like it one bit and he walks off and spits. Fox says he doesn't want to live in a hole anymore. It's like it makes me feel poor, mrs Fox. We are poor but we are happy, which is a classic like thief movie trend, like if it's a thief with a family, it's always like.
Jesse:I want more. I want to provide for this family. It's like, no, we're fine, we're happy. And it's like, look, you can just go. I mean I don't know Like just go hunt for your food.
Jason:I feel like a lot of men feel this way too. You know, a lot of men think that, and I've felt this way before. I feel this way all the time.
Jesse:I want more money.
Jason:Yeah, you want more money, but it's not that it defines you, but it definitely the amount that you can provide for your family, kind of leverages like how you feel about yourself.
Jesse:Yeah, and just having more money makes everything easier, unless you have too much. Mo money, mo problems. Well, that's if you have too much money and people in your family know and they want to borrow it, and then it causes fights. But if you have just enough money where you don't really have to worry about too much and you're also not rich enough for people to want your money, it's like the perfect medium, maybe making like I don't know well where we live Like three chickens a week. Yeah, you know, three chickens a week.
Jesse:If I just had three chickens a week. Some people in this maybe eat 12 chickens a day, and then he's about to get ready to go to work. He decided about to get ready to go to work, and so he's got to hurry up and eat his breakfast. I love this.
Jason:Yeah, eat.
Jesse:It's the best, it's all so polite until the food gets there. It's so funny, until it's time for them to eat, and then they don't even eat half of it, because it's how delicately she like made the breakfast and set it on the table.
Jesse:And then Mrs Fox says you know, fox is living a whole for a reason. So Ash and Mr Fox don't have a good relationship because he like comes out and he's like what are you wearing? Why are you wearing that? They have like a classic weird son and like agro father-son relationship. Essentially, we see Mr Fox going to a tree that is for sale. We meet Kylie, who's the super. He's a little possum.
Jason:But I love how the agent has like a cell phone. Yeah, that's actually Wes Anderson's voice.
Jesse:And I love possum because he has hypnotizing eyes and just a bucket of minnows while he's working on this house. And every time he cuts in he's got the little, the crazy eyes. Yeah, the little circle eyes.
Jason:Or like hypnotizing eyes. Does that just mean he's confused or overwhelmed?
Jesse:Well, I think it's like you know, whenever you In Tennessee, we see possums like every day, Every day, on my way to work there's a possum, so it's kind of like they're blinded. Well, you know how like they like stare at you and they're just like yeah, they freeze. I'm just making really big eyes and just like yeah, they like freeze and just stare at you and it's like what? And then, if you stay around too much, it's. Possums are so cute though.
Jason:They're cute and they're very good animals. They kill possums.
Jesse:Yeah, well, it's not my fault that they have suicide missions running into the road. Yeah, they don't like that. It's like squirrels and possums. They're just like car go. It's like they're trying to race your car and it never works out in their favor. Oh man.
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Jesse:Armadillo's.
Jason:Armadillo's, armadillo's, armadillo's, armadillo's, armadillo's, armadillo's, armadillo's Armadillo's.
Jesse:Armadillo's, armadillo's, armadillo's is like the birth of Armadillo's. That's theэ. Armadillo's, armadillo's, who? What's that?
Jason:He's like, oh, she's getting the itch, she's getting that itch. He sees some chickens.
Jesse:And then we go to Badger, beaver and Beaver attorneys at law.
Jason:This, bill Murray, is so good.
Jesse:He sees Badger, who's played by Bill Murray, who is telling him not to move to the tree. He can't afford it and it's too dangerous for his species. Badger explains who the three farmers are. Bogus is a chicken farmer, weighs the same as a young rhinoceros and he eats 12 chickens a day. Three for breakfast lunch, dinner and dessert. Yeah, Golly, that's insane. Bunce is a duck and goose farmer. He's the size of a potbellied dwarf.
Jason:I feel like they're height-shaming dunce a little bit. It's like swimming in the kittin' and in the shallow end.
Jesse:He's like three foot tall. Yeah, he's not tall. It's like I was like whoa. He's a real small guy. Bean is a turkey and apple farmer. He created his own version of both. I love his apples, though. The apples look cool, amazing. They look so delicious. He lives off apple cider. He's skinny, has a pencil, smart as a whip, possibly the scariest man currently living. He only drinks and smokes and the local children have a scary rhyme about him.
Jason:Bogus Bunsen Bean. Sca Bogus Bunsen Bean.
Jesse:When tall was short with me, when tall was short with me. Yep, wow, what is it? Do you hear that?
Jason:It's a giant crowd outside screaming for us, because we were so good at that.
Jesse:Wow, we're going on tall. I love when I do that. You get a little. It looks like you get a little nervous every time it's like what is he talking about? I don't hear anything. Is Jesse losing it? Badger says he shouldn't do it. And then Mr Fox says I understand what you're saying, your comments are valuable and I'm going to ignore your advice. Badger the cuss you are. Do you cuss at me? Don't cuss at me? And then they have their little. They get tired and just sit down by the house.
Jason:I love that. I love that they live in a dam, like it's Like a beaver dam.
Jesse:It's little things that they add, so like stuff like that is so small and not that much in it, right when there's like them acting as animals. But every time it pops up it's like this is so great, so smart and funny, so they're moving into the tree. Mr Fox sees Christopherson coming up to the tree. He's compared Then like we're cut into, like the kids are all outside and like they're trying to jump into this tiny little pool, funny when an ass jumps in it.
Jason:Yeah, and it's like what was me. Yeah, you're like flailing it's like.
Jesse:And then Christopherson does a, perfectly does like the tiniest little splash ever, so wow yeah.
Jason:And so Mr Fox Hates him yeah.
Jesse:Mr Fox is comparing the two kids. Christopherson is just better at everything, says Mr Fox, and this makes Ash super mad. Plus, christopherson knows karate, which will come in handy later. Ash, as if his dad thinks he is an athlete. He doesn't really answer him. It's like the classic like ooh son, you kind of look at everything and then we learn that Christopherson's father has double pneumonia.
Jason:Yeah, he's super sick at home. He's staying here and he's like super sad, but Ash is being a dick.
Jesse:Yeah, roll douche about it and maybe later that father will only have single pneumonia. So we're at the top of the tree. At night Mr Fox is hanging out with Kylie and they're constantly. He's contemplating his life. He doesn't think he can be happy not stealing birds, it's like a line.
Jesse:It's like I just don't think a fox should live without having a chicken in his teeth. Yeah, I get it. Man Christopherson wants to know where he can sleep, If he can sleep anywhere else, because right now he just thinks underneath the table, under the toy train table Ash lifts up. It's like there's a lot of attitudes going on around here. Don't make me give one. So he's super rude to Christopherson.
Jason:Yeah, it's really rude and Christopherson's crying yeah, he gets on another table and starts crying.
Jesse:But Ash feels a little bad and he gets down from his little bunk bed and starts playing with the train.
Jason:And then Christopherson it's really sweet and it's the cutest thing you'll ever did see At first I thought when he turned on the train he was trying to drown out the sound of him crying. But then it turns out to be just something.
Jesse:He has a little sweet mom. Nice, just trying to get him out of his funk, and the train that's in that scene is the same train that you see throughout the film around the area. It's just they just use forced perspective to make it a little bigger and smaller Miniature yeah exactly so, Mr Fox. He says he has a plan. He tells Kylie his plan.
Jason:And how did Kylie get roped into all this? I don't know, he's just around.
Jesse:He's super, I guess he just I think it's the classic thief with a dim-witted friend. That just does everything that he wants. It's like the two other guys in Oprah Leroy are thou, but he's going to rob Bogus first. While explaining his plan, he is not sure Kylie is getting any of it because after he's saying oh long that speech, his eyes are all swirly. He's just like oh swirly, it's like I have no idea if you're getting any of this. He's just giving me a signal.
Jason:He's letting me know. If he's getting it, just throws his hand up.
Jesse:Ash is with the, so we cut to Ash at school. He's with the signs partner, Agnes, and we're hearing some commotion going on next to him and Agnes can't stop staring at Chris Offerson. Apparently she's going to have a crush on him. He's got fluffy ears. And then you have Chris Offerson with the B-verbally and he's just like explode something. Chris Offerson's like great. Well, that's not what we're supposed to do. Everything just blew up. Thanks a lot. And then Ash notices that Agnes is staring. It's like you're supposed to be my lab partner. She goes I am no, you're not.
Jason:You're disloyal, you're disloyal, you're disloyal. Give her a break.
Jesse:That's so funny. I wish I was that clever, as a little kid Just dropped the disloyal bomb. So we're on to master plan phase one bogus chicken house. His plan is immediately interrupted because, as they're going to jump over the fence, they realize it's an electric fence. So they kind of got to improvise a little bit. Collie brings up wolves and freaks Mr Fox out.
Jason:Yeah, I thought that was really interesting, the whole bringing up the his phobia of wolves all the time.
Jesse:Because there's one thing a fox is scared of it's a bigger dog.
Jason:Yeah, a bigger predator, sure, but I think it's also like the wolf represents, like how he's to be wild. Yeah, how he truly wants to be a wild animal, but he's kind of scared of it at the same time.
Jesse:Yeah, no, that's exactly it. You actually nailed it right on the head and we also learned that. Because what's scarier to a possum? A loud noise. So, when ever they see the electric fence, Collie's like, ooh, it's not going to thunder, is it? I have a phobia of thunder. He's like.
Jason:what is that? I think it's like beware of shock for death or something he's like oh good, it's not thunder.
Jesse:Yeah. So, mr Fox, they have to improvise. They're able to get to the chickens, but they do this whole thing. They've got to climb a tree. They shoot some blueberries at some beagles.
Jason:Because apparently beagles love blueberries, they love blueberries.
Jesse:And they go and eat it, but there's like a split second and then also they have X's in their eyes.
Jason:And they're like fall straight down.
Jesse:It's so funny, and so once they get to the chickens they have. Mr Fox said that you have to like bite.
Jason:You got to kill them in one bite.
Jesse:Kill them in one bite and then, whenever they get there, you see Kylie trying to bite. He's like it's like it's different for me. I have different type of teeth. I can't do this in one bite and it's like oh, I never thought about that. I don't know what actually type of teeth they have. They have super sharp teeth. That's not a thing. Oh, is that what it is? So they probably just can't like.
Jason:I don't know.
Jesse:I think maybe they, I'm not sure I guess because they're so much smaller and they don't have the agility, they can't just like shake it. I'm not a posse mologist.
Jason:Well, my dog can show you how it's done. He caught a mole one time, he just straight up shook that thing to death. My cat leaves dead moles in my doorstep daily.
Jesse:I wish the little neighborhood cats would catch more moles so my yard isn't just a bunch of molehills, Anyways. So once they get in there and they get all these chickens, they have no escape plan. And so once they get to the fence again, the all the alarms start going off and hear all the dogs and people are coming. So they're like, well, let's go.
Jason:And they just start climbing the fence and they're getting electrocuted every like three seconds.
Jesse:But so they're able to escape and they say that they they got to go to like the five in dime store to make it look like they bought the chickens themselves.
Jason:Yeah, well, they forgot to take off the boggest. Yeah, because the toe tag yeah, because Mrs.
Jesse:Fox is like oh, it's like it has a boggest's tag on it. Oh yeah, it must have escaped, and after that they killed it, I don't know. So I'm like that. And then Mr Fox tells Kylie it's Bunce tonight. Kylie's like I thought it was just one more job. It's like yeah, it's a three parter. It's a triple header, Triple header. So we're on to Bunce's refrigerated farmhouse. We see them sneak into his farm. Is still a bunch of birds like all done on like security cameras.
Jason:Yeah, super quick. He's like well read a magazine. Yeah, it's like what's picks the log, opens the door.
Jesse:It's like, what's the point of having all these things if you're not going to stare at them, right?
Jason:Did you get a look at the magazine here is reading? I couldn't see it.
Jesse:Yeah, I didn't get it. I didn't see it either. So then we see Christophson learning whack. That it's very confusing. It's super confusing. It's like I was going to write down the entire monologue, but I was like I don't, it doesn't even matter, I don't know, I don't think so the only reason I would want to do it is I could do a Owen Wilson impersonation.
Jason:Wow, whackback it's like it's like Whack the bag.
Jesse:Yeah, you catch the pinecone on fire and then you hit it.
Jason:And then when you see, I love, I love it, he's Owen Wilson's character. It's just like he talks, he's talking about it and he's mapping it all out with the X's and zeros. And then you see them do it in real speed. It's great and it's.
Jesse:Some kids are just spinning and so yeah, there's One person is just like on, like the far right, just throwing like pinecones in a bucket. I'm like what?
Jason:They never said anything about the pinecone being on fire first.
Jesse:I love that Like as they're doing it, everything's just running around in that the divide nine. Nine, please, like what? Why would you do that? Why divide by nine? That's great, it is pretty great, but it turns out it's very confusing. But Chris Ofsen is very good at it. Ash is pissed, yeah, because before Chris Ofsen goes in, the coach skip is like come out, ash, he's just like running. No coach, I got it.
Jesse:Just let me do one more round. Let me finish this up. I'm getting better, though right, and he's like, apparently, Ash's dad. Mr Fox was the best at it.
Jason:The best whack-back player. It's like am I getting better Am?
Jesse:I getting more like my father and he's like what is it? Don't compare yourself to your father. It's just not going to work out for you.
Jason:But he's like you're improving, let's just keep it at that.
Jesse:Yeah, poor kid. Then Ash turns to his left. He sees Agnes has a sign with a K on it and he's like what's that? Oh, it's for something else. Like no, it's not. And then she's like we're going steady. And he's like ugh.
Jason:He's just let him eat dinner and he's got the giant trophy on the table eating.
Jesse:I just love Ash so much. All the angst, all the angst. So, mr Fox, he lies to his wife so that they can go steal from Bean Cider Cellar. As they're going there, ash tries to tag along, but he's like just go home, get out of here, we don't want you here.
Jason:And then Chris Doverson shows up. He's like, oh good, You're here.
Jesse:It's like, oh good, we needed you.
Jason:That was a bad lie.
Jesse:Chris Doverson's like are you sure about this? He's like, yeah, just don't tell anybody. And he's like I don't like to be dishonest with people.
Jason:Yeah, well, keep your mouth shut. You know what I mean. It'll be OK, yeah.
Jesse:So they sneak in and they are confronted by a knife-wielding rat that has hired a security.
Jason:Yeah, I totally thought he was a French wig. He's a partner. He's wearing that like striped shirt. Yeah, striped shirt yeah.
Jesse:Man. He brings up his wife Apparently she was wild back in the day and then so, as they're about to like fight, like the rat's ready to fight, mr Fox, we hear like a door open and the rat gets distracted and they pull like this rug out from under and he falls into this, like like apple cellar or apple cellar or something, and they get this because of that.
Jesse:they got their hand and knocked him out. Bean's wife comes in and they're hiding from her. She doesn't see them, even though she should have, and Chris offers them. Is she blind? I think she might be. I think she might have an astigmatism, or maybe cataracts her some form. Either way, she doesn't see well. But they're able to make it out with some cider. The farmers have an emergency meeting. We see that Bean's is the leader. Bean's has a plan to kill Mr Fox. They know where he lives. I got to ask you something. Go for it, bean's. Who do you think voices? Bean's?
Jason:I do not know, you don't know I don't even have a guess. Who is it?
Jesse:What if I told you that it was Michael Gambon?
Jason:I would be confused because I don't know who that is. Dumbledore, where's?
Jesse:Dumbledore yeah, he's the second Dumbledore.
Jason:Okay, that's cool.
Jesse:This was the scene where I was like, wait, that sounds a lot like Dumbledore. Now he's like, yeah, it's Michael Gambon, it's Dumbledore. I was like Harry Potter. It's like. Once he really starts talking, it's like, oh, that is Dumbledore, that's cool. Yeah, and as Fox is sneaking into his house, it's this really creepy shot Like as he's like walking to the house with Kylie and like behind in one of the doorways you just see an outline of Mrs Fox and I was like hee and he's caught by Mrs Fox.
Jason:Dang, because he's been like filling the fridge up yeah.
Jesse:And it's his great line. Mrs Fox says if what I think is happening is happening, it better not be. Yeah, don't lie to your wife. So they're kind of having a fight. He's trying to be like oh no, nothing's happening. Nothing's happening. Christopherson comes in with a bandit hat on. It's like why is he wearing that? His ears were cold, as his ears are sticking out of the bandit hat.
Jason:He's just digging himself deeper and deeper.
Jesse:Yeah, but so outside of his tree there's three farmers. They're hiding in the bushes waiting for the fox. They're going to blow them away, the foxes. They sense. The farmers are around like the wind's blowing and they're like yeah, it changes directions. Yeah, and they hear like snapping and stuff.
Jason:And he smells the. He can smell the donuts filled with goose meat or whatever. Yeah, Livers. He smells the cider and the whatever the other guy yeah.
Jesse:I can't remember. And so they just start shooting at Kylian. Mr Fox Just bouncing around dodging. Yeah but they're. All they're able to get was Mr Fox's tail and then Beans takes it.
Jason:And my three year old, three year old, my five year old daughter, before she went to school this morning I was watching this. She goes oh, is this the Fox movie, where the fox loses his tail. Like you were like three when you watched this Holy crap that's awesome and I was like no, that's not the same movie, because I didn't remember.
Jesse:And then, when this happened, I was like oh shit, it didn't bad that they have such a better memory than us. It's wild, I know I forgot. I've completely forgot all about the tail part to you, I guess, because I was just so focused on the midlife crisis.
Jason:Let me ask you a question Does your wife collect animal tails?
Jesse:No.
Jason:Interesting, do you? I don't. We have a few.
Jesse:Really.
Jason:Several squirrel tails. Okay, and we have.
Jesse:Y'all just like walk around and find them and keep them.
Jason:No, she has. She's had them for years and years and years. Oh okay, she used to find the squirrel ones, and then we she's bought more sets, but not just squirrels like other.
Jesse:What do I do with them?
Jason:They just kind of hang there, just kind of hang around. And if you see them hanging, you like touch on their soft yeah.
Jesse:Oh well, that's cool Huh.
Jason:It's a disembodied tail.
Jesse:Disembodied tail, y'all are just like wearing them around the house, it's just something you get used to. Just be like Mr Fox at the end of this clip it on to your butt. That would be sweet, I thought that was such a good idea.
Jesse:Y'all have a fox tail on me, nadex. One year I'm going to go it's Mr Fox for Halloween. Oh yeah, so they after they realized that they missed but got the tail, they call in reinforcements. Ash is upset that he wasn't invited to the robbery, while in bed they hear the farmers are digging Like they're just in bed. Mr Fox is like I can't sleep. I sleep on my back, get acid reflex.
Jason:You can't sleep on his back cause his tail's missing. Get a sleep on his stomach, cause he gets acid reflex.
Jesse:Yeah, and so they start. We start seeing him shaking and then all of a sudden we realize that the farmers are digging them out. So he's like I have an idea Dig. They start digging straight down. After they dig, mrs Fox loses her temper. It's like they go to that beautiful room, mineral room.
Jesse:It's like I'm about to lose my temper. So are you? When is it going to start Now? Scratches him, scratches him by the face. Ouch. She brings up the promise they made 12 Fox years later, earlier, and she's like why did you lie to me? And he goes because I'm a wild animal and this story is. She says this story is too predictable. He goes, really predictable. What happens in the end? We all die unless you change. Dang Shit's real honey, yeah.
Jesse:It's like, I mean it's just such a classic Like see for the heart of gold movie. It's great so, but he can't.
Jason:Yeah.
Jesse:It's his nature, he's a wild animal. So the farmers still didn't find the foxes after they digged. After they dug. So he calls in the three backhoes the backhoes, but one like little for the little guy Not as lovely, it cuts to them.
Jason:They're like and then when they come up to the hill, one of them is just begging on the side of the hill.
Jesse:It's so great they can barely even make it up the hill, Like the guy with the big guy, his, his, his is struggling the most the foxes. After this they start digging further and further. Mr Fox asks if Ash is mad because now he's doing like oh, my wife is mad. Let me try to make sure that my kid still likes me. He ignores me, he puts dirt in his ears.
Jason:I love how they're digging yeah, and then one person in the front, everyone else behind them and it's like how, how, how are the people in the back doing anything? I don't get it I love it.
Jesse:So Ash and Christopherson are talking. This is after they find like a little space to like rest. Ash is spreading rumors about him.
Jason:Apparently he's got like ticks and big big, big old ticks and pellets, and he's like please stop doing that.
Jesse:That's very mean. It's like it's really hurting my reputation. It's like the way you're sitting like that, why do you sit like that? Cause that's doing more for your reputation than anything, god Ash. Then we see uh, what's next? Yeah, what's next. And then we see beans on the news wearing Mr Fox's Mr.
Jason:Fox's tail as a tie. I wonder what is doing with your tail. It's probably wearing it as a tie.
Jesse:Yeah, Like the, when, before you see him on the news, it cuts to the weird, crazy looking kid Mr Beans' kid. That looks like a nightmare. Yeah, I was really hoping. I was like, oh man, you know, be perfect to play that kid. Just as like a little small role. Rupert Grint, um Ron from Harry Potter. I was like it looks like him If he was a insane looking.
Jason:It's not him. I wish it was.
Jesse:So the farmers decide to blow up the fox holes, like that's like they just get like this huge thing of dynamite and blow it up. But then after they do that, all they see is a little small hole in the middle of the blast these boys are digging. So he calls like he gets every single person that works for all of them at all three farms. They're going to come there and they're going to starve them out. So we're there. It's three days later, three, four weeks, two and a half weeks In.
Jason:Fox yeah.
Jesse:They see some movement in the dirt, they're like getting scared. They're not sure what it is. They blow out a light and we see that it's the other animals you got, like a badger, a mole, the beavers. They are pissed, got everything. They're all very mad. We have rights.
Jason:Follow your fault when he yells, we have rights.
Jesse:It's like in asteroid city. When it's like this, this trial is a mockery. It's always like it's always like there's a really like serious line for that You'd expect in like another movie or something. But so the all the animals are mad because they're all trapped in the ground. They essentially just ran all the little animals underground because they're just killing everything that they see.
Jason:They're all like burrowing animals. Yeah, yeah.
Jesse:Most of them? I don't really think do badgers burrow?
Jason:Badgers burrow, badgers burrow, they burrow.
Jesse:Beavers Do they dig, though? No, they build. They don't do so. We're cutting to the bully beaver. He makes. He's wanting to make Ash eat mud, and then he just wipes it all over his face and then Chris beats him up.
Jason:No, he takes off his shoes. He's like why are you taking your shoes off? So don't break your nose.
Jesse:Yeah. So he beats it. Chris Offerson beats him up, kicks that shit out of him, and then Ash is like I can fight my own fight. No, you can't, chris Offerson, no, you can't. So, mr Fox, he decided he's coming up with a plan. He goes into like this side of a wall, like they're like dug out wall, and he's like he's just like making a movement, it's like calculating stuff. He tells Mrs Fox to go back with the rest of the animals that are hiding. The other animals are going to go, dig to the three farmers and steal everything.
Jesse:Mrs Fox talks to Ash. Ash, I know what it's like to feel different. And Ash, I'm not different, am I, mrs Fox? We all are, especially him. There's something fantastic about that. Ash, not me. I prefer to be an athlete. Oh, he still hasn't. He still hasn't. Just wants to be like old dad. He hasn't accepted who he is yet, his individuality. So the gang, they begin to dig and bring everything back to the group and then we're cutting. While they're doing this, we cut to Peaty guy with a banjo.
Jason:Yes, okay, so when this part.
Jesse:So this is hilarious, it is the wildest thing and after like 30 seconds of it, you're like wait, what are we singing about?
Jason:And Alex is so silly Ash, my wife Ashley. She said that Peaty looks exactly like Jim Henson, oh really. So I thought maybe that was kind of like an omelet.
Jesse:It might be, I don't know, I couldn't tell, I couldn't, I'd actually. I only know what old Jim Henson looks like, and he doesn't really look like that.
Jason:She said that the way he dressed and just thought yeah, his hair, everything yeah.
Jesse:He looks just like him. I love it Cause, like towards the end, beans comes up. What are you singing, peaty, peaty? I'm just making up as I go along. Really, beans, that's weak songwriting. He wrote a bad song, peaty.
Jason:Flicks the cigarette on him.
Jesse:He's just mad because they're writing like a happy song about these animals, silly and all this stuff. But I just love the idea. It's like dude, what are you singing? We cut the beans.
Jason:They took.
Jesse:After the animals they show up and rush to where all like the female animals are and all the kids like we took everything, cut two beans. They took everything. Beans is freaking out, just completely destroying his trailer. He destroys half of it, gets mad, flips over a table, starts destroying the other side of the trailer in front of everybody. It's so good. But after he destroys the trailer he gets an idea. So all the animals are underground. They're preparing a big feast, these. Ash talks to Christopherson. He wants to steal back his dad's tail. The farmers are going to wash out all the animals with cider. They could like this giant, like fire truck or tank something to put down in there While having a dinner. Mr Fox goes to make a toast. We cut to Ash and Christopherson. They sneaking into Bean's house to steal the tail but they get distracted by some apple snaps. While eating these they see beans wearing the necktie on TV and then Mrs Bean's comes in, comes home and they think that she doesn't notice them and Ash is like let's just eat two more real quick.
Jason:But then, like we cut, she's like doing something and like some drawers and then she puts her glass she has like a cleaver and like this like I don't know tactical knife essentially.
Jesse:And then she starts like they just run away. And then we're back to Mr Fox's speech. He says we beat him and then all of a sudden they start hearing a rumbling and notice that the boys are gone. Ash escapes but he realizes that Christopherson's not behind him and he just sees like a shoe. And then all of a sudden they all get washed away with cider Out until like some sewer area or something.
Jason:Like he's given his speech. He's like I know I've had too much to drink and he gets like, hmm, cider.
Jesse:So Ash tells his father that they went to go get his tail and he's like what? No? Then we cut to Christopherson being held by the farmers and we've learned that they are permanently stuck in the sewer unless they can find a way to get out. So then we cut to the best shot of the movie.
Jason:It's the beautiful, like waterfall type thing in the sewer.
Jesse:Mr Fox tells Mrs Fox that he is going to hand himself over to get, so that they were hand over Chris off to him, and then they would save everyone, but they wouldn't. They'd kill both of them probably. And then we got this awesome little dialogue between Mr Fox and Mrs Fox.
Jesse:Like Mr Fox. I don't know, but I have a possible theory. I think I have this thing where I need everybody to think I'm the greatest. The quote unquote fantastic, mr Fox. And if people aren't knocked out and dazzled and slightly intimidated by me, I don't feel good about myself. Fox is traditionally liked to court danger, hunt, prey and outsmart predators, and that's what I'm good at, I think. At the end of the day, I'm just Mrs Fox. I know we're wild animals, mr Fox. Hmm, I guess we always were. I promise you, if I had to do all this over again, I'd have never let you down. It was always more fun when we did it together. So what happens now? And she's like um, I wish I never married you.
Jason:Yeah. I love you, but I shouldn't have married you.
Jesse:I didn't have married you. So Mr Fox goes to Ash and gives him a sweet speech. He explains that he wondered who this little boy was going to be, and then he says Ash, I'm so glad he was you.
Jason:Yeah, and this is real, like when you're trying to run into this, you're trying to have a moment with your kid and they just keep interrupting and like because they're like because they've heard it before and like just let me get it out.
Jesse:Well, I love about this, though, is after he does the little speech, like it just like cuts the ashes face and then he's just like looking kind of sad, and then I just love when they everybody starts crying. It's just like this bunch of water just comes out of their eyes and it looks so great so he goes to give himself up.
Jason:He has one last yeah it's like a slower goodbye forever yeah.
Jesse:And we see Christopherson in an empty room locked into Apple Crate.
Jason:It looks like he could easily get out of.
Jesse:So the other animals, they split up to find Christopherson. But they run into the rats. He explains they have the boy and want to trade the boy for the papa. And then Ash comes up. It's like that's not his son. I am rats.
Jason:Like I can see yeah, cool fight and then Mr Fox is here in a scuffle.
Jesse:Mr Fox is like trying to fight him which he can't, While the rat tries to bag Ash, Mr Fox comes up and saves him and then he's like starts kind of flirting with it.
Jason:He's flirting with me.
Jesse:But rat runs through them and gets ash and puts them in the bag. But Mr Fox saves him and kills the rat. Hell yeah. But before he dies he's like huffing and puffing on the ground. Rat tells him where the boy is. Mr Fox is like would you have told me where the boy is if I didn't kill you first? And Mr Fox asks what is it? What is it you've been looking for?
Jason:He's like cider, he just scoops up some, like I guess, sewer water yeah.
Jesse:And then he's just like let milk melt, it go, and then he dies. X's on his eyes.
Jason:I know it's so good he just floats away in the sewer, yeah.
Jesse:And then they say something. I forgot to write it down, but it was great. So they come up with a plan and Mr Fox sends a letter explaining he will give himself up, but beans is going to have to set up an ambush.
Jason:But beans is going to set up an ambush. My suicide plan has canceled.
Jesse:Yes, new plan and essentially they're just going to create a diversion Burn the town down. Yeah, create a diversion and then they're going to get Christopherson and come back. That's essentially all. It is All a war. But Mrs Fox like paints this giant mural on the wall of the entire town. It looks awesome.
Jason:She loves painting storms.
Jesse:Yes, so the animals start throwing out pine cones on that are on fire, causing everything to catch on fire. And Mr Fox, kylie, escape and hop on a motorcycle.
Jason:That was so funny. Yeah, they go, they go running towards the motorcycle, they run behind it. You're like, oh, they're going to somehow drive, but no, they come out in a smaller motorcycle.
Jesse:Who's is that? Who's motorcycle was that? Was that Bunce's motorcycle? How do I know? Oh, so funny Beans' kid is like dad's on fire.
Jason:Dad's on fire, oh, it's so good.
Jesse:Oh, before we go any further, I want to say so. You know, like the newscaster, like the guy that you like does Brian Cox. Oh shit, it's our third Brian Cox movie this year. It's awesome. I didn't realize that he was in this. I was like, wait, that sounds like Brian Cox.
Jason:So many big hit names in here.
Jesse:Yeah. So Ash pops up randomly on the side card and Mr Fox is like how'd you get? There I feel like I'm losing my mind. So they ended up throwing them off the trail by going one way and they think that they're escaping, but really they're going back to the beans farm to rescue Chris Dobson. But then they are confronted by a beagle named Spitz. He's got rabies, but I love before they see Spitz, they have like this awesome sneaking thing. They're all three kind of doing the same motion together and the cameras like pushing in and out.
Jesse:It's so. It's such a good shot, it's so cool. So Fox is going to distract the beagle. Why Kylie and Ash save Chris Dobson? And so they get to Chris Dobson and Kylie. They get on top of the building and Kylie can't get work the like bars or whatever, and then Ash is like, hey, I can fit in there.
Jason:And I'm like why.
Jesse:Because I'm little. It's like hell yeah, embrace your identity boy. So Ash wants to karate, chop the lock off.
Jason:He's got. He got to teach me about karate real quick.
Jesse:It's just like five minutes of him teaching karate and but he ends up messing up and pushes the apple crate off the table, freeing Chris Dobson anyway.
Jason:He knocks him to the edge and then Chris Dobson looks out of and Ash is just like bent over looking between his legs out. I'm like, did I do it, Did I do it?
Jesse:And then he's like I'm sorry For what it's like from earlier. It's like, oh, you mean all the mean things you did to me and you should apologize a long time ago. Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm grumpy and I wake up on the wrong side of the bed and I'm all. Yeah, the little shakes his head.
Jason:I'm weird.
Jesse:It's like I'm different. Oh God, I love Ash. So while that was happening, fox is being attacked by spits of dog. He's able to get away and they all are together now and they're able to escape. So they try to make their escape, but they are surrounded by all the farmers and their men. Mr Fox sees his tail, mr Fox prepares for the final showdown with the farmers and then, mr Fox, your tractors uprooted my tree. Your posse hunted my family. Your gunman kidnapped my nephew. Your rat insulted my wife and you shoot off my tail. I'm not leaving here without the net that neck tie being kill him. All the foxes there. They duck under a hell of gunfire and pause while the families are like. All the farmers are reloading. Mr Fox, actually we should just go. We're in a park, but then we see Ash runs off and he becomes an athlete and he's able to.
Jason:Yeah, he just whacked back.
Jesse:He whacked back. He whacked back the lot and unleashes spits. The dog attacks all the humans, runs up the farmers up this like a I don't know a little shed building area, but then we also see the dog rips up, Mr Fox's tail.
Jason:They're all so afraid of the dog.
Jesse:And the animals make their escape. But as they're escaping, they're able to pick up the tail. Yeah, that was pretty cool, and then we have another part where I was like why is this? Why is this so emotional? I don't understand. By driving home they spot a wolf.
Jason:It's a beautiful scene there's a lot of rules.
Jesse:I know Fox is like what are you doing here? It's like I hear it's going to be a long winter, like the wolf isn't doing anything, and then Mr Fox is, raises his.
Jason:Raises his fist. Raises his fist.
Jesse:And then the fox does it too, the wolf. He just raises his fist and he's like all right, everybody wish him good luck. They all just yell good luck, and then he's like what a beautiful creature.
Jason:And then he just shives off.
Jesse:But I think this represents Mr Fox is accepting that he is not a wild animal. He's not a wild animal. It's like he knows he's not built for it. He's supposed to be a dad. It's time for him to build a dad. He's a family man. Now that's a three days later. The farmers are all waiting for the animals to resurface out of the sewer. We see all the animals making a life down in the sewer, but they are all like I'm hungry, I want to drink some water, yeah.
Jesse:There's a line coming up later. It's like, yeah, Christopherson's dad's thinking about moving up here. It's like, oh, it's a great time to buy. Mr Fox comes and wants to show them something. He's like pretending oh, I wonder what's up here. I'm sure it's nothing good. Then he leads them to this giant supermarket. Mrs Fox says you're really a quote, unquote. Fantastic, Mr Fox.
Jason:This is where the movie ties into sausage party.
Jesse:Yeah, mrs Fox says she's pregnant again and they're like, oh, I think we're both glowing.
Jason:They're both glowing.
Jesse:And Mr Fox says one more toast. They raised juice boxes to our survival, survival, what do? I almost say Australian, and it's the best.
Jason:And that's the movie. It is so cool, yeah, man? I love this movie so much.
Jesse:It is so good.
Jason:There was one part I think we forgot to talk about. Mr Fox is going through and he's asking every animal what they're good at and they're like. I do this because that's what the animal does, yeah.
Jesse:And they're saying their Latin names. Yeah, and he gets to the badger. He's like explosions, Explosions Like what? And he's like I do it.
Jason:And I love when he gets to the possum doing that and he's like what can I?
Jesse:do Kylie's like what can I do? And then Mr Fox is like I don't know. Just kind of be around. Yeah, you're just going to be in there and it's like I don't even think you, I don't even, I don't know your Latin name. I don't think you existed in Roman times. I did look up that they do have a Latin name.
Jason:I don't know what it is no, no, no, it's just. Every this movie is so good and it just makes. Gives you that warm and fuzzy.
Jesse:Yeah, it's just, it's so smart, it's so smart and silly. That's what I love about it.
Jason:And it just looks. I just want to touch everything that they made this movie out of. Yeah, it looks like yarn and cloth.
Jesse:It's like I just want to Mr Fox and I just want to pet him. Yeah, that's right, but Fox is our dope. There's they're so cute, but they're also kind of scary.
Jason:They yeah, Because how wiggly they are. It's one of the saddest days of my entire life and I'll never forget. I ran over a Fox puppy.
Jesse:God dang, that sucks. Dude, that's the worst, I can't.
Jason:I cried yeah, so much I would too, because, like the mom, there were three cubs with the mom and I didn't see them. They came out of like nowhere and I hit the last one in line that we were all crossing along the street in the line, and then the other three came back to like see that they're a dead child.
Jesse:Oh my God. And they're like all right, we just got to move on. I would have just drove into a tree. I know I got so sad. It is the worst hitting an animal Driving it's like why did you have to cross now?
Jason:Yes.
Jesse:Of all times, across a road. Man Well, that's a.
Jason:Now that I've brought it down, that's a bit of a bummer bear, jason. Crocky, but you know what I don't want to get.
Jesse:Australian.
Jason:Crocky, I don't know what it, I just keep doing.
Jesse:I'll show you an accent now. So we're going to move on to our first category. It's called the good, the bad and the ugly and the fine. It's where we go through and tell you what we think. The the thunk. Well with the good is something that we like about it, whether it be a scene, just seen the acting, whatever. The bad, something that we didn't like about the film the ugly, something we don't think as well. The fine, which is something we do think as well.
Jesse:I think the animation yeah, that was my mind Stop motion and adult story wrapped in a kid friendly oh yeah, yeah, that's pretty much it. Right, I mean that's.
Jason:I don't think there's really anything bad, though. Yeah, I mean maybe lying to your wife, like the way we kind of expose this hell. We lie to our, the people we love, yeah. Sometimes, I guess that is um, that's just like. But it wasn't a bad part of the movie. It made the movie great. Yeah, Just saying that's just like.
Jesse:I guess the mom could have been a less passive character of the film.
Jason:Maybe I was really hoping she was going to kick that rat's ass. Yeah, yeah, I mean she kind of ran over a little bit.
Jesse:Um, got anything with the ugly? I don't have anything that. I should poorly not that I can think of off the top of my head, maybe like beans.
Jason:He just don't be like beans.
Jesse:Yeah, Don't be beans. You know what the farmer's bad guys? Don't be a farmer, and I guess the ugly it's not, or I guess the bad you know is just A consumerism. Yeah.
Jason:That's what's drawing all these animals out of the. This trying to get better homes. They don't want to live in holes anymore.
Jesse:We need affordable housing for a wild Exactly man. You know, it's just like you really feel for Mr Fox. It's like he just wants to live in a nicer house on the whole, or don't? We all don't know.
Jason:We just want to American dream, but in England.
Jesse:And for the fine, I picked adult storytelling or adult storytelling for kids.
Jason:Man, the fucking age is so well when it's done right. Yeah, yeah, I feel like they fucking nailed it. Yeah, like Cussin nailed it.
Jesse:So what's your? You gotta, you gotta double feature.
Jason:Man, you know I was thinking a lot about this. Wallace and Gromit always come to mind. Oh yeah, that's great. It's so goofy, Wallace and Gromit, chicken Run, chicken Run.
Jesse:So good, All those films.
Jason:Yeah, those English like stop animations.
Jesse:Yeah.
Jason:The big teeth and the grins. That's great. I love those movies so much. I love Chicken.
Jesse:Run.
Jason:I need to rewatch it to see if it's still anything?
Jesse:Yeah, no gifts and voices to Chicken For real yeah. I didn't know that. That's awesome. I'm just kidding.
Jesse:So my double feature. I actually have two films. It's a triple feature where the wild things are oh, I haven't seen that one yet. You haven't seen it. It's based off the book. Everybody knows that little book, right, it's Spike Jonze which we need to do. Spike Jonze, maybe soon, but it's great. It's just, you know, a kid meets these monsters and he's being a wild animal. But he's got to learn that it's time to grow up. And my other one is Paranorman, paranorman. You've never seen Paranorman. It's. It's um, I think maybe you probably have it's stop motion and stuff like that. It's all about this kid. He sees like ghosts and stuff and they're zombies.
Jason:It's a very we're doing it next October. We're doing it next October.
Jesse:There's no way we're not doing it, but yeah, that's the episode. That's where we fucking roll.
Jason:Yeah, it's great, I love it. What are we doing next?
Jesse:Next week we're doing Gladiator, yeah, and celebration of Ridley Scott's new movie, napoleon, starring walking Phoenix.
Jason:We are doing a Ridley.
Jesse:Scott walking Phoenix movie and Kurt or Russell Crowe. Also, if you just so happen to be listening to this, and I just want to clarify some things on the exorcist episode, dakota said that Kurt Russell was in the Pope's exorcist. It was Russell Crowe. I've heard people say things about it. Also, I made a Gmail so that you guys can talk to us and send us emails, ask questions, give us, you can send an email saying what you think about Gladiator. Or, if you want to send us an email, think what you think about Fantastic, mr Fox. But if you email us at, we recommend Mailbag Spelled exactly how you think you spell those words Sounds awesome and maybe we'll read some emails. If you comment, leave a comment or review, we'll read those. So just send us what you think about the episode, what you think about the movie that we're covering, and we may read it on live. I can't wait. So, yeah, just haul her back at us.
Jesse:Hull at your boys and you can. I like to thank Joey Proman while over the place. Me adding that little Mailbag thing really threw me off my outro.
Jason:G and Gmail stands for Google.
Jesse:I was just going to say Google. Hey, where's my Google mail? My mail's got Google on it. Dude, this one's apparently.
Jason:We have a snail that gets all over our mail.
Jesse:Every day it crawls all over it, Dude yesterday some truck drove by just straight up, hit our mailbox, that's all bent up, barely close it. They just kept driving. Are you kidding me?
Jason:Well, anyways, our intro and outro is produced by Joey Proster.
Jesse:You can follow him on X at Mr Joey Proster. He moved to LA, by the way. Whoa cool, see ya guys. And if you want to follow us on our social medias or you want to listen to us on a different platform, just go to our link tree, link tree forward slash. We recommend podcast and it's the quickest way to follow us or just connect to anything for us. So do that. And this has been. We Recommend. I'm Jesse and I'm Jason and you are, without a doubt, the five and a half most wonderful wild animals I've ever met in my life.
Jesse:So let's raise our boxes to our survival. See you next week. I'll drink to that.
Jason:Bye.
