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The Purge: Election Year
Can a night of chaos and lawlessness really be thrilling cinema, or is it just a mess on screen? Join us as we dissect "The Purge: Election Year" and debate its place on our list of the worst movies we’ve reviewed. While opinions clash, we unanimously applaud Frank Grillo’s action-packed performance amid the mayhem. Our lively discussion tackles the film's portrayal of societal madness, questioning the sanity of its killers and the missed opportunity for true chaos, like rampant arson. Comparing it to its franchise siblings, we find ourselves gravitating towards "Anarchy" and "Election Year" for their gritty, street-level storytelling and relatable character motivations.
Exploring themes within this chaotic franchise, we delve into the unsettling depiction of mercenaries adorned with Confederate and Nazi symbols, and the narrative weight such imagery carries. The conversation meanders through personal reactions to intense films and the triggering effects they can have, while acknowledging the franchise's attempt to broaden its universe with diverse perspectives. We also humorously connect actress Elizabeth Mitchell’s franchise role to her time on the show "Lost," delighting in these cross-media threads that offer an extra layer of intrigue.
Beyond the cinematic screen, we humorously ponder the unintended consequences of Hollywood on wildlife, crediting Spielberg’s blockbusters for ecological shifts. The eerie sound of the Purge siren sets the stage for our discussion on the societal divide between the “haves” and “have-nots” and the inventive survival strategies characters employ. As gang warfare and moral dilemmas unfold, we appreciate the thrill of lawlessness portrayed in the series, while envisioning a future where peace might just be possible, even in the most unexpected locales.
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Hello and welcome to the we Recommend podcast, a movie podcast where every week, we recommend a movie for you to watch and then come back here and listen to us discuss. I'm Jesse, I'm Jason. It's no longer an assassination, it's a rescue mission, because this year we recommend Purge election year. Yeah, I accidentally election year. Yeah, I accidentally said year Instead of this week. I said year, my bad, but this election year we are doing Purge election year the whole year every week. So on what movie did I ask you Rundown? I asked you is this the worst movie we've ever covered? You said it was Blowout, which is wrong, but is this our worst movie we've ever covered?
Speaker 1:No I think Blowout's the worst. You're so wrong about it and I hate it. This is right up there though.
Speaker 1:You know what. Honestly, I don't want to start off too negative because the parts of this that get it right, like I hate all the Purge and Purify stuff, but when they get on the streets and it's just Frank, what's his name? Frank Grillo, I believe, who he plays Crossbones and stuff in some of the Captain America movies and stuff, but I really like Frank Grillo. I've seen him in other movies. He's an action guy, he's got martial arts movies and stuff, but I really like Frank Grillo. He's.
Speaker 2:I've seen him in other movies.
Speaker 1:He's like he's an action guy, he's got martial arts background and stuff, and then he wanted to be a bodyguard, yeah, and he wanted to be a like professional athlete but he ended up taking like theater and then just got good at it, I guess, and now he's in a billion movies where he gets to beat up people. He's in a billion movies where he gets to beat up people yeah. But anytime he brings out his little like knife thing he holds it and he starts punching people with it.
Speaker 1:I'm like, yeah, this is what this movie should be. Hell, yeah, but any of the like, the girl and like, visually this movie is very interesting with the mask, you know, the Christmas car lights which were ruled.
Speaker 2:But then the girls get out of AK-47.
Speaker 1:Yeah, those are all really cool, but then everybody always has to be like I'm a psychopath and it's like normal people would still just do this and not act like this.
Speaker 1:It's like I don't know why we all think like, oh, it's got to be the craziest of crazies that do it. That's when you let your crazy out. I think it permission. You know what. You know what ruined it all when people act like sociopaths. Me and Natalie talk about it all the time because in the Scream series now at the end of every Scream the killers always act like Billy and crap, what's Matthew Lillard's name. But they act like them where they're all crazy and it's like not everybody would act the same. Some people were just kind of crazy but like seem normal, trope is dope, but now it's like everybody acts like that.
Speaker 2:when they're acting crazy and killing, it's like yeah I think we've kind of come to find out most people react normal when they do that they're good at hiding it, because after they've done it they're like yes, I'm normal now I feel good again, I can go to work tomorrow like rubbing stuff their weapons all over the place, like I'm going to pay. It's like come on, those are just the more interesting ones, yeah.
Speaker 1:And ultimately, my issue with all these movies is the fact where's the chaos? Yeah, it's always completely empty streets and here comes a couple of cars oh, murder. Oh, now we're just going to walk by some visually interesting things, but it's like I would have liked to seen that.
Speaker 2:I feel like there's not enough arson, like I feel like there were, just because that's easy. Yeah, I feel like there would be so much arson.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because there's no fire peoples. Yeah, I was going to say fire police, fire peoples. That's not what they do.
Speaker 1:No, I believe gonna say fire police, fire people. That's not what they do. No, I believe we call them fire peoples.
Speaker 2:There's no emergency services. Yeah, so killing people, yeah, that's cool, but like it's harder than just setting a bunch of shit on fire. Yeah, like man cities should be burned down. Yeah, exactly, single bird year it's like we really like.
Speaker 1:Even though there's so many of these movies, they do not explore so many elements, and that's especially that first one. The first one's the worst in my opinion. I hate the first one. All the kids are so bad and it's just like nobody's making smart choices At least. I actually think Anarchy and Election Year are the two best out of it. Anarchy is probably the better one.
Speaker 2:It's, actually it's not too bad.
Speaker 1:Honestly, it's more in the streets like from the poor people's perspective and Frank Grillo's in it.
Speaker 2:And it's more about him.
Speaker 1:It's where in this he talks about his kid dying. It was a purge situation.
Speaker 2:So that's why he is the way he is. I feel like a lot of people in this story have that situation. They just go through a lot of really stressful times.
Speaker 1:Yeah, lot of really stressful times. Yeah, it's very uh once a year it's like and I do feel like this it did make you feel like, especially with joe and marcos, like fuck man, they gotta protect their whole entire life here at this store even though it's just like, uh, screw it. But I mean again, if you're only gonna get like one purge visitor, it's like, yeah, let's just shoot them where they're in like washington dc, aren't they?
Speaker 2:There'd be a lot more chaos. A lot of fucking shit going on. There should have been a lot more shit going on, but like there's no way, I guess you're going to have the budget to have like 100,000 people fighting each other and it's like man, use your 10 million, Set the streets on fire, I don't know.
Speaker 1:But it's like that's what I want though In every Purge movie I'm always like, all right, maybe this is the one it's like even when we got to the forever Purge A dumb commercial.
Speaker 2:So what you're really?
Speaker 1:saying is Still nothing.
Speaker 2:These movies are just not as psycho as you are.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they, and there's just so much marketing of like, oh, these people, you know, you get the mask and it's always chaotic in the trailers and then you get it and it's like man, there's a lot of running through empty streets, and don't you think?
Speaker 2:that this in such a capitalistic society as we do have here in good old America? Don't you think the purge would be like sponsored by like Coca-Cola or Tampax or something like NASCAR?
Speaker 1:Probably not.
Speaker 2:I don't know man. Because we It'd be sponsored by Chick-fil-A In the military we were given tampons, because the size of the bullet fired from an AK-47 leaves a hole, an exit wound. That is like the perfect size for a tampon to fit in. And they're, it absorbs it all. They're, it absorbs it all, they absorb. It fits right in there. They're clean and they absorb the blood. Yeah, dude, that's so cool. I know that's the most Sponsored by Tempest.
Speaker 1:That's the most interesting fact anybody will ever learn about the Purge During a Purge podcast.
Speaker 2:Wow that's really cool yeah. Tempest this year's Purge brought to you by Tampax, Hell yeah man.
Speaker 1:I will say, though, in this movie I liked all the characters. Actually, Joe, my man, Joe, was funny and I believe he played. I believe I read something that Joe actually is Bubba Gump in Forrest Gump Wow Cool, Just like on an offhand like fact I was looking up yeah, he plays Bubba. Hell yeah, Bubump. Wow Cool, Just like on an offhand fact I was looking up. Yeah, he plays Bubba.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah, bubba, his second movie.
Speaker 1:No, he's been in a bunch and apparently this is like his third or fourth movie of getting shot in the stomach trying to save a white person.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, man, that sucks for him.
Speaker 1:It's so funny. But yeah, like Joe, he's so funny. I wrote down like every line that he said that was a joke. I was like hell yeah.
Speaker 2:I did like Joe, but I didn't like the, because the movie it starts off with this Joe and Marcus story where they're like we're defending our home and then it's like it just changes to now we gotta save this white girl, yeah.
Speaker 1:Claire. Well, because she's the, she's the resistance against the purge people I get that.
Speaker 2:But look, then he's like, they try to like, he tries to go back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, no, the movie's changed already. It's like all Like these minorities are like God dang it. We got to go back and save this white woman. Yeah, that's funny. I didn't even think about it like that.
Speaker 2:I thought it was funny. Yeah, so it sucks for him.
Speaker 1:Do you like the whole? You know like, do you find it interesting the whole purge becoming almost like a religion thing? I did find that interesting. Does that make?
Speaker 2:you kind of eye roll religion thing or I did find that interesting, like it kind of, yeah, but it kind of shows how this, this country, has turned into a theocracy based on the purge. It was like a religious experience it's supposed to be. I feel like in that that's how it's marketed to yeah, to everyone yeah so that it just seemed real like like almost too close to home.
Speaker 1:Yeah right, it's like it's kind of what we're all worried about if certain people win.
Speaker 2:It's like please don't do that. And what I really liked about the mercenaries is how horrible they made them look. Yeah, they're all white nationalists yes, white but they had the Confederate flag and the Nazi emblem on their uniform.
Speaker 1:at the same time, their cute little vest said white power on the back All their cool tattoos on their faces. I was like, wow, you really got white power written on the back of your. It was stitched in too, so it's like who made this? What company?
Speaker 2:made this. I like how they added, but I just like how they put them on the same uniform. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the Confederate flag was prominently displayed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Like three or four of them.
Speaker 1:It's like I wonder what, I don't know. I wonder what people think of these films, because actually nobody talks about them. So it's like I wonder if people were like, just because I have a Confederate flag doesn't mean that I would do this. Yeah, they're just kind of quiet about it, like we're not going to talk about it.
Speaker 2:But I think they are fun movies because it's a fun idea to explore, because a lot of people think this way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is what a lot of people want. It's like, man, if I could just do one night. Just one night, yes.
Speaker 2:I mean I've got a short list of people. I mean I've got a short list of people. Yeah, that I would like to see to like make a new face hole for, like the one girl.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think ultimately the issue with these movies is they want to explore the stuff that I'm not interested in, Like they really want to go into, like if this was real and part of me is like I just want chaos in the streets type of movie.
Speaker 2:You know it's like the zombie invasion at the very beginning, where it's like it's crazy, like the Civil War movie kind of. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Even that could use a little more.
Speaker 2:I didn't make it very far that way, because it kind of triggered my PTSD, oh really. Oh yeah, I can see that.
Speaker 1:It's a very intense movie, I had to turn it off like halfway through, like the bombs, and they're just like constantly like crossfire, like the whole movie.
Speaker 2:When they were firing the rockets into the sky, you know, and all that stuff. It just took me back to a place I didn't want to be.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow, wow, Okay, yeah, don't watch it again, jason, I own it on 4K.
Speaker 2:No, I still do. I still do watch some things, it just depends.
Speaker 1:There is like a very real realism with Civil War, which is what I appreciated the most about Civil War. I feel like, yeah, it's like, oh yeah, this is probably more what it would be.
Speaker 2:It wasn't too overdone, which is what which is the opposite of I want.
Speaker 1:I feel like maybe that's the prequel to the Purge. Well, no, I want. So that's like what the purge is trying to be like a realistic, like oh, what's a political politics about it? When it's like, no, I want you to be a dumb. Like action, horror movie, that's just like I'm crazy, brute, brute. Like brutal movie, I guess. Yeah, but they can't, they just won't do it. They won't do it. They got to keep making little silly plots about it. It's like no, how about we survive the night and we run through the city, which they say which is what they all are, but they never yeah.
Speaker 1:So give me the crazies.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I feel like, if there's, there have been some shows that I feel like I can't remember the name of them. There was one with like zombies, zombies, but it showed like 10 different stories going on, and that's where I feel like this movie could expand upon. Yeah, it's like a bunch of different stories. Maybe they come together in some way at the end, but, like it just follows, there's really just one or two in this movie and I feel like they just ran out of material, yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, they really did, which is crazy, because you don't really need insane material to make it be like oh, this is what chaos feels like, you know, which ultimately is, I feel, like what it should be. So I only got like three or four facts. There's not a lot on this. That's super interesting. Uh, essentially this was. This is the third one, it's part three.
Speaker 1:It was originally supposed to be a prequel to the very first Purge, which ended up being the fourth movie. But because Frank Grillo decided he wanted to come back to reprise his character after the director asked him to, he's like, yeah, let's do it. And so they just wrote this instead. And then they did the first Purge two years later, let's see. And so the Purge has expanded its universe more throughout each film. The first film takes place in a house, the second film takes place in the streets, the third place film takes place in the government. Also, each film looks at the purge through different points of view. The first film is told from the rich, the second is told from poor, the third is told from the political side.
Speaker 2:Oh, shit, yeah, and you know which are cool elements to go through, but you know so like it could be better my idea of of having all these stories just in one movie yeah, yeah, exactly that probably even it could have done yeah, I don't know, it probably been better as like a two hour, maybe 15 minute movie.
Speaker 1:That's just like. Here's everything. Yeah, so my last one that I'm going to say it's only because it deals with loss, because Elizabeth Mitchell, who plays the Senator Claire, right, or whatever her name was, it's not Claire, I'm thinking of loss, but she plays Juliet in loss, she's the blonde girl, oh shit, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And so it's funny because in the store and I was like, wait, is that an Apollo bar? And it's when the girls go in like the school girls are dressed up and Joe's like hey, don't take my candy, and they're like touch me, see what happened. And then eventually she gives the thing and it says Apollo on there. Funny thing is in the Dharma Initiative their candy bars were Apollo Dang, so it's a lost reference.
Speaker 2:That's cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's all. That's the most fun fact I learned about this movie.
Speaker 2:Well, you're like I was thinking is this supposed to be like Halloween? No, this is because it happens in May.
Speaker 1:In May. Yeah, ok, okay, I don't know when the what may elections there are. I guess it's no. No, because well they.
Speaker 2:They say after the movie's over. It's like two. They only say two months after the purge. So I guess elections have been changed to july, probably july 4th yeah, it's all my best. Thing yeah, I don't know it's weird.
Speaker 1:So you got any facts about the movie or anything?
Speaker 2:not the movie. So there I heard some some cool things on the movie related movie related. So in our Halloween episode last week we talked about Halloween 2 and they mentioned what I called Samhain, but I think it's what they called it.
Speaker 1:They called it Samh, but I think it's that's what they called it.
Speaker 2:They called it Samhain. Samhain, yeah, okay, I think it's pronounced. So I saw another video about Samhain, but it's pronounced Samhain. It's an old Celtic tradition and, uh, in order to like reappropriate the the holiday by the Catholic church, they decided to start dressing up as saints, um, and which ultimately became Halloween, and I thought that was really neat and I wish I would have known that before I watched the movie. Yeah, that'd been great, yeah.
Speaker 1:That's like an interesting fact to be like.
Speaker 2:Oh, now that it would have been perfect for that last day.
Speaker 1:The best month of the year is gone and now all we have to look forward to is election. So who's your favorite saint? Oh, peter, I don't know Saint Pete, no, mine's favorite is Saint Jimmy, the song from Green Day Hell yeah, me and my friend Richard used to headbang like crazy in the church park a lot listening to that. Yeah, to the point where I think that's why I have neck trouble, because, like we do so much to the point where it's like ow, like it's like we have really bad whiplash now.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah yeah, I have neck problems from diving into a shallow pool and hitting my head on the ground. I hit it so hard that I had paint blue paint on my teeth when I came back up for air. What the fuck jason? Now I have curvature in my spine. That's right there in my neck.
Speaker 1:That really sucks, were you an adult diving into the? No, I was a child.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, but someone in in cookville, tennessee I don't know if this pool still there. It shouldn't be. If it is, it had a high dive over eight feet of water. Wow, it was a it wasn't public pool, though it was. You had to pay to get in. So yeah, that's. I really hope that they got a lawsuit. What?
Speaker 1:the heck eight feet and a high dive. That's insane, bro yikes. All right, I guess we can run down the cast.
Speaker 2:Unless you got something else. Well, the thing about the, the tooth fish, was that it was mentioned in Jurassic park as the, so it was re rebranded as the Chilean sea bass and which and they mentioned that in Jurassic park and this fish was is like supposed to be super tasty and delicious, yeah.
Speaker 1:It's got my stomach rumbling just thinking about it.
Speaker 2:But because of the movie, it started to get overfished to the point of so crazy endangerment. And so there's a story on Snap Judgment called Chasing Thunder, and Thunder is the name of the ship that's illegally fishing. Oh, okay, and these other eco-pirates have been looking for this ship and they find it. And these other eco pirates have, yeah, they've been looking for this ship and they find it and they chase it down. And it's such a good story that's awesome, yeah.
Speaker 1:They should make a movie. Yeah, that's funny that you say that Steven Spielberg has caused another species in the water to be haunted?
Speaker 2:Oh, because the sharks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was like a whole thing with jaws. Let's go Be hunted. Oh, because of sharks. Yeah, it was like a whole thing with Jaws. It was like, oh, let's kill all the sharks, let's kill all the sharks, and now it's like the Chilean sea bass the tooth fish.
Speaker 2:If you listen to that episode, these eco pirates. They talk about all the other species that they protect. Well, not all of them, but they do talk about sharks and whales and seals.
Speaker 1:Yeah, hey guys, let's just keep our groby hands out of the water. Just get us shrimp. Who cares about them? Just get all of us the shrimp. Give us the ocean bugs the best thing to eat from the sea anyways. That's really cool Way to go.
Speaker 1:Steven Spielberg, you keep killing fish. Yeah, man, anything with fins. Steven Spielberg is like I can't make a movie about them anymore. Every time I make a movie about an animal, they all die. He's not a Finn fan. It's like Purge the Fish Years, all right. So I'm just going to run down the cast real quick. So you got Frank Grillo. He's Leo Barnes. Elizabeth Mitchell, she's Senator. Charlie Rowan my bad, I kept calling her Claire. Then you got McKettle. Wilson Williamson is Joe. Jj Soria is Marcos. Betty Gabriel is Laney. Then you got Terry Serpico, who plays Earl Danziger. He's the white nationalist guy. Oh nice. Edwin Hodge is Dante. Kyle Secor is Minister Edwig Owens he's so annoying in the movie. And then for the last one, it's Liza Cullen. It's not how you say it properly. Zayas, she's Dawn. She's the other girl in the EMT.
Speaker 2:She's in Bear as.
Speaker 1:Tina, she's the girl from Bear, oh shit. Okay, she's like the Latina lady that is like one of the main chefs in there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's so good in the bear. She had nothing to do with this movie.
Speaker 1:Nothing in here to do Thank God for the bear, because now we know who she is. All right, man, you ready to purge? Yes, I'm ready to purge my brain, and this is a reminder we are doing this because this is going to be released one day before the election, so we hope that you'll go out and vote and whoever you think will cause the purge the most, do not vote for them. Vote for the person that won't charge the least purgy candidate. I mean honestly, I don't own any guns.
Speaker 2:So I'm screwed.
Speaker 1:Don't tell people that I'll just be hitting people with baseball bats. Jesse, why are there so many guns?
Speaker 2:in here.
Speaker 1:Oh dang you that, jesse, why are there so many guns in here? Oh dang you're so protected. Hey, oh, sorry, don't sit there. That's where my rocket launcher sits. I have the best gun it's giving me good back support right now.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna use it okay. Yeah, I don't have the safety on, so watch out that's how rocket launchers work, right rpg safeties.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right, let's do this, bro. Maybe I'll just put the noise there instead of doing it with my voice. Or is that better? I will say the like siren that goes off. It is a very creepy siren, yeah, and I could the whole buildup. It's kind of the scariest part of the whole thing I know Is people sitting and then realizing I could die now.
Speaker 2:Just waiting with their guns. You're like hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, can't wait for the siren.
Speaker 1:It's like the good part about like the purge is you hear that sound. Then it's like shit, game on Rule. Well, it's because it's like all right, there are no rules anymore. No one is safe. These rules that we follow because we're told to, they're gone. So now what do we do? That's ultimately the scary part of the purge, but this is never successfully done for me into the movie, except when they play the sound. Yeah, that's the coolest part. It's a hell of a siren. So the film starts on a purge night A couple of masked men are keeping a family tied up. One of the men says they are going to play Mommy's Choice to see which one of them will live throughout the night. Then you got it's a guy with a stupid mask. He's like you know he's being like oh, I'm psychopathic, and he's playing. You've got the funk and it's like ooh, we're crazy purgers. This is what the Purge movies are, oh man.
Speaker 2:So funky.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then it's 18 years later, two days before Purge night, we see a news report on. Senator Charlie Roan, who is running for presidency, is aiming to get rid of the Purge, stating how it only serves to eliminate the poor, the homeless and lower classes of society that make up the majority of America's population which is what truly would happen if the purge existed. That's all it would be Rich people would probably fly out.
Speaker 2:The most vulnerable people would still be the most vulnerable people All the rich people and politicians.
Speaker 1:they'll be like Canada, we coming over for a minute. Yeah, just for 12 hours.
Speaker 2:That's what I thought about, like because they're all kind of in one place at the mass. So I guess we'll get to it, yeah definitely they would not be there.
Speaker 1:No, not at all. So we learned it was her family that was murdered in front of her that night, leaving her as the only survivor At least her mom chose her. Yeah, that was good, it's like she's the one that can be president, the son's like dude, fuck you.
Speaker 2:We need someone to be president. Any volunteers? Everybody else is like nah, we're good. And like the son a week before Purge Night just like spilled a whole thing of like Kool-Aid on the floor and is staying in the carpet and the mom's like sorry you ain't making a son.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry that was brutal. I'm sorry that was brutal. So, yeah, running against her is Minister Edwig Owens. In a secret meeting in Washington DC, the new founding fathers of America Council want to get rid of Charlie by any means necessary, as in murder or just another night of the perch. So the leader and chairman, caleb Warrens, has something sinister in mind. He has the line we are going to use this purge to do some spring cleaning.
Speaker 1:I really like that line. I almost use that. I probably should have used that as the opening line. It'd probably been more fitting. Instead of it's no longer an assassination, it's a rescue mission. That was the part that I most like was like yeah, let's go, frank Rillo, hell, yeah, we have a debate between Charlie and Owens. We see her bodyguard, leo, watching over her. We see Charlie walk into the crowd after a speech. It's an unhinged debate. It's like that's not how debates work, but Seems familiar. I just hate all the purge talk, purge and purify. So meanwhile we are introduced to Joe Dixon, the best character in the damn movie. A convenience shop owner. He runs the place with his assistant, marcos, and then we meet his friend, an EMT named Laney, pays them a visit. She's in Get Out, I believe.
Speaker 2:Oh hell yeah, Get Out was good. She's in Get Out, I believe.
Speaker 1:Oh, hell yeah. She plays like the when they go to the house and get out and then you have like the lady that cooks for them and stuff. I believe that's her Awesome.
Speaker 2:Such a cool movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the movie we should do. So we get a scene where now officials are allowed to be purged. She says, um, because it's like usually level 10, right, yeah, like protected people. Yeah, protected people like how you gonna prove it.
Speaker 1:Whatever, who it's like, whatever you know, it's like what are we talking about here? Um, and leo's like hey, you need to like get out of here and let's go to a safe place. And she's like no dog, I'm staying here because I don't want to lose votes, which isn't a realistic thing. I feel like that would actually happen. It's like well, if I hide, then I'm going to lose voters. But you'd be like oh, you're using her privilege while we're out here on the streets. I'm not voting for you now. Why would you vote for someone who's for the purge in this case? So you probably could just hide, because I don't think that's going to change too many people's votes, right I think.
Speaker 2:But I think that she's got it right where she does kind of have to survive, like like. I feel like because she's leading the movement, yeah, if she gets killed you know that's the death of the movement and so like.
Speaker 1:But here's the thing I could see where she would, I feel like in this scenario, she would have to hide because we want to keep the person that's going to end the purge hidden, yeah, and the person that is, of course, we expect the guy who's purging to that wants to be for the purge to be hiding. Yeah, secure. It's like yeah, but it's like, oh, we need this girl to survive so we can get the purge done. I feel like voters would be like, no, that makes sense. Lady, you need to get out of here. Yes, it's like we want this to end. Please protect yourself. Like if I heard all the stuff she was doing. It's like why wouldn't you just hide? Like we need you. It's like we need you to live, lady. So then we learn foreigners come to America to participate in the purge. You get some like, yeah, murder, tourism.
Speaker 2:That's fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's actually a good idea. I actually thought that was a really good idea in the movie.
Speaker 2:It's like that makes sense. Other people would come to the country and be like let's have some fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what country were they from? They sounded kind of German, I think.
Speaker 2:Maybe they were just European, yeah, some sort of European, not America.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So then we go back to Joe. He's in a convenience store. He's getting hit on by some random woman and as he walks out he's like that's a nasty woman right there. I was like huh. I wonder if that was taken from the political debates whenever Donald Trump called yes, because this was 2016 that the movie came out, so I believe the debates were probably already happened by now. Yes, so Marco spots two uniformed schoolgirls attempting to shoplift some candy. Joe confronts them, leading one of the girls, kimmy, to rudely dismiss him. She is forced to do so, but first she says you put your hand on me, I'll yell rape and I'll close your whole store down. She is forced to do so when Lainey steps in, as Kimmy idolized Lainey when she was known as not going to say it, but she was known as the little death in school.
Speaker 2:Yeah, lainey, when she was known as not going to say it, but she was known as the little death in school, I think. What does that mean, though?
Speaker 1:Does that mean she used to purge a lot? No, I think she just used to beat people up. Oh nice, with a shotgun. Yeah, I don't know the uniform girls, they suck.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're bitches.
Speaker 1:They're overdoing it. They really want candy. Yeah, they're bitches. They're overdoing it. They really want candy. Yeah, they really.
Speaker 2:You know we should just have a holiday where you dress up and get candy.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And not kill each other. Wait a second, I think they call that.
Speaker 1:Halloween we do that. I mean shoot. I was trick-or-treating in high school. It was mainly as a joke, but like they gave us candy. So Charlie is being guarded by Leo, who also wants to put an end to the purge night. Because of the previous movie you learn all about that. Essentially, his kid got killed and he wanted revenge on them, but in the end he didn't. He did not purge.
Speaker 1:That is spoiler for anarchy yeah, and someone talks him out of it essentially what he's doing in the end of this movie to Bishop or was it Dante, dante, yeah, the end of this movie To Bishop, or was it Dante? Dante, yeah, who ends up dying because he couldn't just do what he wanted to do.
Speaker 1:So it has been two years since Leo attempted to kill. I already said all this, so, joe. Then we cut back to Joe. Joe gets a call that his Purge insurance rates have been jacked up and if he doesn't pay by the next day his store won't be protected. He decides to guard the store himself, um, and then we get vague talk about laney helping during the purge, um, which we find out pretty much immediately. But yeah, that would be something pretty realistic, yeah, yeah I could see that insurance going up yeah, just price gouging.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if the the politicians are into the purge, they will not allow. They will not stop companies probably from price gouging. Yeah, if the the politicians are into the purge, they will not allow.
Speaker 1:They will not stop companies probably from price gouging poor people, no fucking way yeah so they probably own the insurance companies yeah, see stuff like that actually kind of fine like oh yeah, that would be pretty realistic that makes sense in this movie seems legit, scary white people sad this world, man, jesus christ, maybe it's just because this is good, like the elections next tuesday, and it's like it's kind of a bummer I'm not looking forward just the talk of it. I'm so glad we're both off when or that. I'm off wednesday and thursday of work after the election.
Speaker 1:it's like, oh, thank god, we don't have to deal with the talk, sure, but I think it's gonna take, probably, probably, like yeah, it's going to be like last time, a couple of months, with a mail-in ballot. Yeah, so we see Joe get ready on the roof and Lainey gets into an ambulance to go help at night because she's an EMT. Good on her, and we'll learn a little bit about the triage and EMTs and stuff a little later. So purge night arrives. Yeah, I love them, they do like 10 minutes till purge.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh god, these are the announcements. God damn, I was just chills going on my spine.
Speaker 1:It works so well. It's like the best part of the whole movie. This is the announcement yeah, there's something, I think, that just triggers the inner fear of like, oh shit, lawlessness, what do we? Do you know when it's gonna happen, and then you get to it oh, and my favorite part about all these purge movies is that every single fucking one they know about it every year, but they're never properly prepared well, that's totally be like our lives probably yeah, that's just the the haves and the haves, nots it's always like, man, you got a year to get your situation fixed.
Speaker 2:You got a year to dig a hole and fill it up with concrete.
Speaker 1:That's what I feel like. If I learn that, oh, the purge is going to be in a year, I'm going to dig a hole in the backyard at night, every night, to make it big enough that I can cover it up, and then we just sit in there for 12 hours and hope my house doesn't burn down or just go on vacation somewhere else.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe they outlaw vacations.
Speaker 1:Yes, On this week.
Speaker 2:You cannot go on vacation. You can't leave the country, yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh, man, I'd just go in some woods, man, there's so many woods in. Tennessee. I'd just drive into some woods. Walk into some woods, ellie. So Leo secures Charlie's home with Sniper standing watch outside. A few minutes later, at the commencement, all the snipers are shot dead by unseen marksmen. Leo and Charlie have a drink. Leo explains that his son was killed. Charlie will risk her life for the country. She says Because it's like why are you doing this? Why would you do this? It's like well, someone's got to risk their life for it.
Speaker 2:I'm like yeah, yeah, so let's drink. Yeah, that's a good idea.
Speaker 1:They're just drinking water. So Laney drives around and sees some crazy shit. There's like a guillotine thing, some cars driving with people on the hoods.
Speaker 2:That was wild.
Speaker 1:That was pretty scary. We got Purge written in blood on the Lincoln Memorial.
Speaker 2:Yeah that was a badass shot With the Lincoln Memorial and all the dead people.
Speaker 1:Truly, when I watch this movie, I think that's what they thought about when making the movie. Were all those shots?
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, and I feel like they want to incorporate them in the plot, but they're just like. We don't have the budget for this. We can't film Lincoln Memorial like this. Yeah, but yeah, all like little snippets of crazy things happening. It's like man, maybe one day we will. So let's see a. We see a woman is crying for help and laney gets out to help. Then we cut to marcos joining joe on the top of the roof. I love it because he comes out with a chair and then joe gets up and he's like good lord, it's purge night, you don't sneak up on black people I think I think, as joe, I would have been like super grateful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, it's like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1:Joe, Especially knowing that he will not be able to shoot these girls that are about to pop up. Oh man, it's like what were you planning on doing? Shooting at their feet?
Speaker 2:And he's drinking, yeah, alcohol.
Speaker 1:I'm sure, if it's going to be last night, might as well go out drunk.
Speaker 2:I guess I mean you. Just you wouldn't be as sharp, yeah.
Speaker 1:Marcos says he's going to join them. All night, joe tries to get Marcos to leave, but he won't. And then we see a pretty rad visual A car covered in Christmas lights. Hell yeah, he rolls up. Three girls with creepy masks step out. One of them takes off her mask, revealing her to be Kimmy, on her face caked in blood. Yeah, she's usually like I'm crazy blood. Yeah, she's like I'm crazy. I love their glammed up weapons too. My body's made of jello. I can't just stand straight. I gotta wiggle constantly. It's like we get it. You're crazy. Yeah, the the. It reminds me like call of duty.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it does yeah, yeah, they probably do play a lot of call of duty.
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely the art department does so. She claims to have just killed her parents and she plans to break into the store to retaliate against Cheryl, Just to get a candy bar Lady that gun probably costs you like 20 grand.
Speaker 2:She holds a grudge man.
Speaker 1:No one mis-shoots her, just buy the candy bar when she wants to steal she will steal, but Marco scares her off by shooting her with a bullet that gazes, I know, grazes her ear.
Speaker 2:The surprise of this girl that she got shot at on purge night was kind of off the wall to me, because they had them outgunned. They are lower on the ground but like still she's like, oh my God, he shot me.
Speaker 1:Well, there seems to be almost like a leave, like an unspoken rule that, like purgers don't mess with other purgers, like it seems like if there's two groups of purgers, they're always just going after like innocent victims. They never go after each other. Not because they're having like gunfights in the street. Well, that seemed to be the gangs. It seemed like to be gangs that were fighting each other like that.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:I feel like you just kill anybody. I think purge anarchy goes in like talks about gangs a little bit more and like how they're, this is like their one night to settle their differences and stuff like that. Interesting I think if that's an anarchy, if not, it might be in a different one, can't remember. So, um, then we cut to chief Cooper and Eric buzz mails Um, they're the people in the house with Charlie, they're the traitors, essentially. Yeah, they're allowing people to come in and kill Charlie.
Speaker 1:But Leo finds out because Cooper ended up like turning back the time, rewinding the tapes, just like, oh, that's cool, maybe we should make it where they can't do that next time, ok, but he ends up, leo ends up noticing it when he's trying to talk to him, walkie-talkie them, and then we like meet the skinhead named Earl Danziger. Like I don't like his last name, danziger Is that his real name? I don't know. Well, in the movie it is. Oh, in the movie it's his name. It's just like I didn't know they gave it his name Danziger. It's like hey, I'm Danziger, what you doing, it doesn't? It doesn't seem like a leader type name. You know, I don't know, but they're coming in to storm the house. Leo guides Charlie out of the house through a tunnel beneath the house that I guess that he put there so he could escape.
Speaker 2:It's my little secret.
Speaker 1:And then he starts killing a couple white nationalists. And as it rolls, that fucking rolls. He just like does the little stabby thing? He's got the cool finger knife thing. It's so cool.
Speaker 2:I don't know what you call it, knuckle knife.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I will say the action in this movie, I mean this movie is shot and filmed well, I thought so. Especially better after this one. It looks like garbage. I haven't seen the next one. It looks like garbage I actually don't mind the first one, the next one's first purge.
Speaker 2:The first purge.
Speaker 1:Like I kind of like the characters in that one in the story in that one Actually, it's just they just screw up the purge stuff so much it's so annoying. So from inside the house they find them running away and then Leo gets shot in the chest.
Speaker 2:But luckily it's like shoulder chest area.
Speaker 1:He then sets off a bomb. He left killing the villains. Yeah, that was really good. I was like hell, yeah, of course it didn't kill the main guy that needed to kill them. They barely. They didn't even get singed Well, because they like went outside after. Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:It looked like they were all in the room Because they only had like four left after this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so after there's only four of them left, and then you get like a wide shot of like the Washington DC. There's like a bunch of smoke and it seems like there's a lot of chaos. I wish we could see it. People are like, damn, why'd they do this movie? It's just because we want to be cheeky for election, and I don't hate it. There's just a lot of issues. So Charlie and Leo run out into the streets trying to avoid the purgers. They're to avoid the purgers. They're being followed by a drone. That was cool, I just see. I feel like it's like Nazi or not Nazi, but like German thing, because it's like whenever it's like yelling, I'm like I feel like they have the white nationalists and then they sound like, almost sounds kind of German.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't want to be reminded me of that thing from Fallout.
Speaker 2:You ever play Fallout 4? There's like these little robot, like government robots that are just flying around yelling out propaganda.
Speaker 1:Robot like government robots that are just flying around yelling out propaganda, oh yeah I do remember that that was neat man. I wonder when that's gonna happen to us. So they get attacked by people randomly acting dead. Leo makes quick work of them, which is rad, and then they get ambushed by some foreign purgers as one of them brags about how they'll kill them. They're all dressed up in like Statue of Liberty, george Washington, you know, like USA stuff. I thought that was awesome they're wearing good masks.
Speaker 1:Yeah. But while they're getting all like pushed and shoved around, joe and Marco show up and shoot all the purgers and like what the hell are you doing out here, senator? They take Charlie and Leo inside the store for protection. I love it. What in the Mississippi fuck were you doing on the street during the first night? So fucking good. Here's the best lines in the movie. Then Leo secures the place. Charlie is forcing Leo to worry about his wounds, marco tries to clean his wounds for him, and then Kimmy and her gang. I guess they come back to break into the store. This time they got more people with them.
Speaker 1:They got bus saws or something. With giant, bigger costumes. That seem to be not something you should be wearing when you're using a giant saw.
Speaker 2:Yeah and I feel like you probably won't. You don't want to draw attention to yourself with a car covered in Christmas lights.
Speaker 1:No, this is. There are chances to be as extra as possible and murder people, just being themselves. Because, I mean, I feel like that's after, because this is like the 25th year. Yeah, I feel like after this point, everybody's just going to be you want to stand out?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you want to make a name for yourself on Purge Night.
Speaker 1:So Joe calls Lainey to tell her that they have Charlie with them and that they're being attacked. Kimmy tries to cut through the place with power saws. We get like one of the girls singing like Purge today or whatever, and like just acting really crazy. Just as I don't know, just doesn't work for me. I don't know why, but Lainey shows up and plows Kimmy down with her van. Oh yeah, fuck yeah. Vehicular homicide.
Speaker 2:I love when she gets out with the shotgun. Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, she's her new face hole.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like shoots the brains out. It's pretty crazy, yeah. I mean I guess you know these girls did give us like something to root for the first half. She's like man, I can't wait till they die. Yeah, they're so rude and annoying. Yeah, a little weird, yeah. And then Lainey urges everyone to hop in the van. Another shoplifter is trying to break in from the back because they have like a whole group back there. But I'm at that point. I'm like you have a bunch of guns you can just shoot them and then be done with it. It's like you have a, like a guy that can just beat people up with his hand. So I feel like, and he's got a gun, and they're all going to be, like sectioned into, like a easy area to shoot.
Speaker 1:You just shoot, you got to purge, you got to purge.
Speaker 2:You know you got to purge, so bad oh.
Speaker 1:Purge. I'm pre-purging.
Speaker 2:Sorry, it never does this.
Speaker 1:So she tells everybody to get in the van. Joe wants to stay, but Lainey won't let him. And when Marcus says he'll stay if Joe stays, Joe decides to join him. Good guy, Marcus, Marcos. While driving we learn that Lainy is working for the underground triage. It's an unspoken rule that everybody leaves them alone. It's like sure. I guess it's supposed to be like old timey wars, you know where?
Speaker 2:like you let the medics come in, you don't shoot them out of respect.
Speaker 1:Yeah, usually, yeah, definitely why wouldn't? You. It's a war. Were we just going to let them help people?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but there were a lot of instances where they didn't because they were just so tired of fighting.
Speaker 1:Well, it's like also the people with the drums that used to come out weren't supposed to shoot them. I mean, how, like I just know, there's going to be a little shithead, that's like I'm going to shoot the drum.
Speaker 2:That's got to be the first one to die, though it's like you know what?
Speaker 1:I'm actually going to shoot the drummer, even though we're not supposed to, because you know, I can do this because I have a gun and who's what, am I going to get arrested? They need, they need bodies for war. So and then also in the group is getting shot by a helicopter. Then they like they're kind of driving around to get away and hide from them. We see a crazy like fight club axe battle thing happening.
Speaker 1:And I guess this is like two different gangs like having a war. They look like they're just having fun. It might be that I don't know, but what happens next is Leo pulls a bullet from his chest out and realized like, oh, it was a tracking bullet. I should have known that I had a blinking light in my chest. Yep, and that's what was leading all the villains to him, as they continue moving, moving. They are followed by some, I guess a gang of crips, uh, and they're like trying to wild that.
Speaker 2:They brought that in yeah yeah, I know what's the most famous gang. Um, we can do that one is there a?
Speaker 1:way that we can let. We need a gang that has a certain sign or, I don't know, some sort of whistle that would allow them to just do, so that they don't have to go out and get killed.
Speaker 2:You could have done all of this and just made up a different name. Yeah, right.
Speaker 1:Well, they're trying to make it like realistic, you know, yeah, but yeah, so Joe manages to get them to back off by doing like the whistle the crypt whistle, I guess I don't know anything about it, but yeah, so don't know anything about it. Um, but yeah. So I guess they just wanted someone to, like help them out with their gang member. I don't know why they just couldn't knock on the door, be like, could you help us?
Speaker 2:well, they did knock, but they knocked all they're like.
Speaker 1:They're all knocking at the same time yelling.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna kill you well, they were just like open up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like we'll just be like hi, we actually have someone we need help with. Yeah, um, you could have been nicer, but because joe's able to do the whistle, they're like I know what I heard, I know they're in there and they do it back and they let them in and in exchange for a favor they're gonna help their guy and then they're gonna help them. So when two of the Dan Zingers teammates you see, it's like I wrote yeah, I wrote that so much, and the more I was typing it, I'm like this sounds so stupid.
Speaker 1:They show up and find the bullet, like and the more I was typing it I'm like this sounds so stupid. They show up and find the bullet, like they kind of like made them lead them into a trap, essentially with a bullet, and then like the Crips just shoot them dead. So they helped them kill two people. So the group goes to a hidden location, led by Dante Bishop, the new leader of the anti-purge moment movement. This was a big thing. In the anarchy, the one before this, there's the whole anti-purge movement. This was a big thing. In the anarchy, the one before this, there's the whole anti-purge movement.
Speaker 1:Was Dante in that one too, yeah, but he's played by a different character, I believe A different actor. So many victims are being treated there by professionals.
Speaker 2:Charlie doesn't like their ways though, because what we'll?
Speaker 1:learn is that Dante wants to. There's like an extremist group. Yeah, I don't feel like there's extremists.
Speaker 2:in this situation though, yeah, everything is so extreme.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry you gave us the rules that we can kill people and we're going to try to kill people to benefit our cause of not allowing us to kill.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hell yeah, it's like the Robin Hood gang.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's essentially kind of like that, but Charlie's like violence isn't the answer.
Speaker 2:Except for tonight.
Speaker 1:It really is we have to defeat them with our ideas.
Speaker 2:I know I feel like she should have just been like once she heard about the plan, she should have just been like OK, I didn't know anything about it, I'm going to leave.
Speaker 1:I know and she talks about like they don't want them to be martyrs. But I'm like, well, they raised the level to allow political people to get killed. Obviously they could die. I'd just be like, well, shit, that's purge for you.
Speaker 2:They shouldn't have done that if they didn't want that to happen. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:They all seem safe here. But then Leo notices a command room while he's just looking around Something I like about Leo he's very looking around all the time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's a pro, yeah.
Speaker 1:I like Ring Grillo. I like his character, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I just like that he's like.
Speaker 1:I'm not into this bullshit. I know something's happening everywhere I go. He's like the only one that's like. I'm here to survive. I need you guys to start acting like it he's got high situational awareness, yeah. Yeah, love it. Love when a character does that. So Joe is still persistent on going back to the deli, though, because he's got to protect it.
Speaker 2:Lainey says she will drive him back after some convincing no.
Speaker 1:No man, it's like dude. The place is probably gone. Those people probably broke in and destroyed it anyways.
Speaker 2:We just got safe, but I mean I guess not for long in and destroyed it anyways.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we just got safe, but I mean I guess not for long. It's a good thing, I guess that happened. I mean not for Joe in the end. But so Leo decides to look around a bit and then he wanders into a command room Fun. And once he makes it in he has to fight off the guys.
Speaker 2:And if this is supposed to be like a freedom fighting thing, like why are they so upset that he walked into their secret room?
Speaker 1:he doesn't want anybody to stop him? I guess. I guess they don't want charlie to know. I guess yeah, because she might stop him. Which is what happened? Um leo and charlie realize that they're gonna assassinate owens tonight.
Speaker 2:Good idea go for Seemed like a guy that should die. I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but Joe, Marcos and Laney.
Speaker 2:All the leaders are in one place. Yeah, let's just leave them alone.
Speaker 1:We'll leave them alone. How about we accidentally started a fire?
Speaker 2:We can't take out the entire government in one fell swoop.
Speaker 1:No, no, no no, no, you mean, we could take out all the bad people will hate that. Yeah, they'll ride in the streets.
Speaker 2:Oh no, dang, too bad, there wasn't one night where they could do Too bad, all the rules aren't lifted. Oh wait.
Speaker 1:Wait, yeah they are. Maybe it's the Persian on a good idea.
Speaker 2:Wow, this is really working out in my favor. We should keep this going.
Speaker 1:So Joe Marcos and Lainey leave, but they notice government trucks are heading to the triage Charlie. Then we cut to Charlie. She does not want Owens to be assassinated because it'll make them martyrs. They get the heads up that the trucks are coming and Lainey is going to come pick up Charlie and Leo and but this ends up being Charlie. They're back on the street. They almost get cut by a giant like axe. That was funny as hell. They're like dang it, we almost got you. I know. Yeah, they're like all right. They literally say that.
Speaker 2:I know they're like, okay, good luck out there, but like the axe was only swinging at about like chest level, they could have just like crawled under it. Yeah, I know, it literally wasn't that big of a deal, it's great, it's so weird. And this quick platforming to get across this axe obstacle.
Speaker 1:It's like dang it. We're going to have to swing from this platform to that platform with this vine. Like where are we?
Speaker 2:The city.
Speaker 1:How is this possible? Purge would be a fun video game though. Yeah, name though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I guess it's grand theft auto, but or like the red dead redemption, I guess it's fortnight, it's kind of like that, I guess. I guess it's just.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a cool concept for a game yeah, so um, and then they also walk past a woman who's like singing and her husband's on fire that was hilarious, yeah it's just like that's one of those things I see and I'm like okay, she's just living her best life cool is no one gonna kill her, like I don't having a little husband kept fire yeah it's like she's just sitting there and like the same street, that there's a giant axe swinging.
Speaker 1:I'm like, do people just like? Oh well, she did the purge, let's not kill this old lady yeah, I liked her.
Speaker 2:I made up a whole backstory for her, yeah she needed to do that.
Speaker 1:She's got told to do the dishes one too many times. It's like 50 years of her marriage. I hate looking at your stupid face. But so then they get picked up by Laney. Charlie is still upset by the assassination plan, and while they're bellyaching about it, their van gets rammed by the purgers, by purgers, and Charlie gets taken.
Speaker 1:It was the mercenaries, yeah it was the mercenaries I accidentally put purgers. I tried to get a little head of the game here in my notes. So Charlie is brought to Owen's church for a purge mass and is prepared. They get some purge preaching mumbo jumbo though.
Speaker 2:And did you find it interesting that the song they were singing it was so I almost thought it was a real song. It may be a real song.
Speaker 1:It may be a real song they may be, because there's a lot of songs about being drenched in blood and they probably took like. They probably took like a hymn and was like let's see how we can write it just like this.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah, man yeah, oh, it was so creepy because, like you remember growing up and like going to my grandparents church and just hearing them sing about blood and I'm just like this is scary as hell.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there is a lot of hymns about blood.
Speaker 2:Just bathing in it.
Speaker 1:No, bro, but it's good blood. It's the good blood to sing about, it's not creepy, it's the cleansing blood.
Speaker 2:Yes. If you say anything like that, Jason, it's crazy cleansing blood.
Speaker 1:If you say anything like that, jason, it's crazy. I mean, I remember seeing some hymns, though they were straight up bangers.
Speaker 2:They'd be like we're doing this hymn, be like let's go yeah, they're made to be that way, and then I don't sing it because, like I, can't sing and it's embarrassing.
Speaker 1:So Leo decides to join with Dante. After he tells them they have Charlie. It's no longer an assassination, it's a rescue mission. Get him, let's go, baby. We see a man get his throat slit. For God and government, hell yeah. And now it's Charlie's turn.
Speaker 2:He gets stabbed a bunch. Yeah, he got stabbed a bunch by that weird quirky guy. Yeah, I was thinking of what they're going to do with Charlie.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, that guy seemed like no good. As soon as I saw him, I was like this guy gets to kill somebody in this movie.
Speaker 2:He is a zealot.
Speaker 1:Yes, but yeah. So Warren prepares to slit Charlie's throat, but the others arrive just in time and Marcos kills Warren straight through the face.
Speaker 2:Yeah, headshot baby. That was awesome.
Speaker 1:So the rest of the congregation flees, dante considers killing Owens, because they end up chasing them in and stuff. Because Dante comes in and they kill everybody pretty easily and they're like what are you doing up there? Why are you hiding? It's like, well, there was a lot less of us a second ago. Yeah, up there, why are you hiding? It's like, well, there was a lot less of us a second ago, yeah so you guys kind of showed up a little late here you big babies?
Speaker 1:yeah, um so, but then dante, they, he's able to get to owens and he's like gonna kill him. And then owens is like purge. Yes, it's like why are you like this? Why are you talking like this? Has everybody in the country just gone insane? Yes, I mean, I guess that's the point of the purge.
Speaker 2:He's like the leader of the insane people.
Speaker 1:He's like cult leader insanity type stuff, I don't know. Sometimes I just get tired of watching people just be like I'm crazy.
Speaker 2:Oh, purge me.
Speaker 1:Purge me daddy, oh baby daddy, I'm going to purge so hard. Oh my God, look me in the eyes. I purge, damn.
Speaker 2:You know you're going to my mouth, oh.
Speaker 1:God, I hope you don't purge all in it. So don't take considers killing Owens and Charlie and Leo, talk them out of it. Plus, owens wanted them to and it's like I'm not going to let you fucking do it.
Speaker 2:Do you think that before, like when Dante was about to shoot him and he was saying all that gross stuff and he's just like it just got too weird?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got performance anxiety. I couldn't, I couldn't get my gun up, I only loaded blanks, I completely forgot. And then we get Joe and, like Marcos and laney are all outside, they got their guns pointed at the uh, anti-perjurers because you know, just in case something happens. And then joe says now I'm gonna tell you right now I like black people, but I ain't gonna let you all shoot these white folks, these are our white people. It's like man, joe, you're really. This actor just has so much charisma.
Speaker 2:I love the guy. He's such a good dude.
Speaker 1:So after Dante decides not to kill Owen, charlie confronts Owens and says she will beat him on election day, and then Leo hits him in the balls. I feel like we should have got a few more shots. Hit him in the face. How about hit him everywhere?
Speaker 2:Get it. No, he did hit him in the face, but he grabbed his balls.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I thought he hit him in the balls.
Speaker 2:He just like hit him with his gun across the face, oh here's what we do we get a bunch of soap put it in the thing and then everybody just takes their turns on it Sock full of quarters, break his ankle or something. I mean, come on, hobble that fucker, that's a jerk. Or put it like a sock in his mouth, so he doesn't do all like speaking in tongue stuff. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Just like find a way to give him some sort of disease. Just shut him up, time up, yeah disease yeah, just give him joker scars, make him look how he needs.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, like he did the, the final guy, the nazi guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was awesome so, um, and then Denzinger and his men show up and they start purging, while Charlie and the rest try to try and rescue a bunch of tied up people, because there's randomly a bunch of people that they're going to kill that night in there.
Speaker 2:But the thing that got me about the mercs, the mercenaries, they were just kind of like OK, we're done, let's go find some place to hide and wait this out. I feel like they should just be done, yeah, like we're not getting paid to do any more of this shit. Well, because if they die they don't get paid Right and I guess they're just killing anybody who gets close to them and they're hiding out in this garage.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they have to protect them. I think also at the same time. I think they just thought they were pretty much done for the day, so, um, yeah, they just thought they were pretty much done for the day.
Speaker 2:So, um, yeah, denzinger kills dante and fights with leo, ending with leo killing him. It was nice how dante had that last little. He rammed those two guys really cool like hell.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's go, dante wish he could have survived, since you know this whole thing was your leg right a little hip. I thought he died. I thought he got killed well, he got shot. He got shot, and then he was like no, because he's in the car and he just comes up and well right, but before that he got shot.
Speaker 2:And then he was like no, because he's in the car and he just comes up and Well, right, but before that he gets shot in the hip or something.
Speaker 1:Then he gets in the car.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and he's like I got one more thing to do.
Speaker 1:And then Danziger comes up and just shoots up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they let him up. They got fucked up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, RIP Dante. You couldn't even do your plan because these people come in and you don't even get to survive. Yeah, it sucks.
Speaker 2:But you know what? He died for the cause. He dies for the cause. That's what he wanted.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So Owen's assistant comes out with a gun and heads toward Charlie. Joe steps in and shoots at the man, taking a few shots himself before getting the guy with a headshot Damn. And Joe succumbs to his wounds and states his hope for Charlie to win, for Marcos to take care of the store. Sucks. I wanted Joe to survive. Yeah, Joe was the best. I didn't remember him dying. I love Joe. Joe RIP baby. See you someday.
Speaker 2:Going to that big deli in the sky We'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 1:Oh fuck, it took me a second to realize what you said. That was really good In heaven. You can have all the deli stores you want, joe, and then we cut to. Two months later it's election day, cold cuts, charlie wins the presidency in a landslide and proceeds to start the plan to get rid of the purge night. I love it. It shows the map. It has Tennessee in blue Hell. Yeah, I'm it. It shows the map.
Speaker 2:It has Tennessee in blue Hell yeah, I'm like, okay, rock on, this is a fantasy. You can tell this is a movie.
Speaker 1:And then we got Marcos and Lainey now taking care of Joe's store in his memory. And as the credits are about to begin, we hear a news report that purge supporters are reacting to the election results with violence.
Speaker 2:Here, purge supporters are reacting to the election results with violence.
Speaker 1:No, here's the thing. There's not that many purge supporters. Just take them out. I don't know.
Speaker 2:I feel like there's a lot Like people seem to like this, not in the cities, apparently. If it's so, because they showed the map and most of it was blue, but there were like seven or eight states that were still very red. Yeah, there's a lot, and I've imagined that those are the ones that like purging a lot, yeah. So, yeah, I mean, you could, I could see how this could be. I mean, yeah, you got to call in the National.
Speaker 1:Guard. Yeah, things are going to get a little crazy, but I think we can probably work it out. But not really, because the next movie chronologically is the Forever Purge.
Speaker 2:I haven't seen that one. Yeah, it's bad, it's terrible.
Speaker 1:It's really bad. I was actually kind of. You know, they hulk me every time. I'm like this is going to be the one where there's all the chaos. Same shit, it's the exact same stuff, except now they're in Texas. Oh wow, thing is it doesn't make anything better, they just have hats.
Speaker 2:It's just now.
Speaker 1:it's a little dustier, it ends up going into just like abandoned city streets and abandoned warehouses and stuff, and it's like there's nothing to it. There's some fields in this one which is a little bit different, Okay.
Speaker 2:But that's the movie.
Speaker 1:Like geez.
Speaker 2:Stop bellyaching about how you just want more violence in these movies.
Speaker 1:No, I totally get it, I think you're right, it's really not a bad movie, Like I didn't hate it, Like I found myself enjoying watching it.
Speaker 2:You know rooting for characters, and it was a movie of like you don't really have to pay attention and you can. Just it's kind of a movie you can just have on in the background, yeah listen to Joe be funny, and that's all you gotta do.
Speaker 1:He crushes it. So we're going to hit our category, the good that's where we talk about the good of the film. The good Something we didn't like. The bad Something that didn't age well. The ugly Something that did age well. The fine what do you got for good?
Speaker 2:The good, I guess. I think it's a good idea for a movie, just the execution is a little off.
Speaker 2:Like we talked about how there's not enough chaos, it's just but maybe we're just giving too much credit to everyone wanting to be involved in chaos, because maybe the fact that there's not a lot of people is just the fact is pointing to and this idea that most people are just terrified. Yeah, they don't really like this. They just have to go along with it because it's the government. Yeah, you just got a few outliers that are just taking full advantage of this shit.
Speaker 1:Yes, they're like we're doing this. Yeah, For my good, I just put like kind of the characters I really like Joe and.
Speaker 2:Marcos, marcos. Is it Marcos or Marcos?
Speaker 1:Well, it's spelled M-A-R-C-O-S. So I've been saying Marcos. Whether it's Marcus, I do not know, but that's how I've been saying it for a movie, so don't kill me, okay? And at this point, you know, I don't know how to say anything. Maybe it's Mark-O-S, like Apple Mark-O-S. But yeah, I like Frank Grillo as well. Yeah, I like Frank Grillo as well. I think he's really good in this film. Hell yeah, dude. He's like the bodyguard. Yeah, I think they kind of got all the characters really well. It made it relatively interesting and you know, just like the shots of like chaos are really fun and it's kind of what I want from these movies. It's just like Hell yeah, man, an hour of this movie that's just like.
Speaker 1:So we're just talking in another empty room for the bad.
Speaker 2:I think my bad will be. There wasn't a whole lot of creativity with the, with the psychopaths.
Speaker 1:Yes, they're all. They all act the same.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they act the same. And I mean the girls I like. I like them because they're just like the glam murder team or whatever.
Speaker 1:I'm going to wear my croissant, even though they sucked ass and were super annoying.
Speaker 2:I was happy to see them die, yeah, and I feel like that still is a sign of a good character.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's true, if you hate them so much that you love to see them die. Yeah, yeah, that's what, something that Game of Thrones did so well.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I want these bad guys to die. God dang it.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah, they just wouldn't for so long, and I feel like the shot with her getting the girl getting shot in the face. Oh yeah, God, I loved it so much. It's like so satisfying.
Speaker 1:It's like, yes, my bad was lack of chaos. We've already heard me talk about it. Sure, you know, we got for the ugly uh, I mean I don't know.
Speaker 2:Uh, I don't really know. I think the crip thing, yeah, just making calling the gangs crips and like this is the crip whistle and like that may be a thing, I don't know, but like I feel like the movie is so far-fetched you could have just put any anything else yeah, it is it.
Speaker 1:It is kind of a jarring little like okay, why?
Speaker 2:Because there are a lot of people that identify as this and that really are violent people and, like I don't know, You're just kind of making them out to be the good guys, and it's I don't know, yeah, good guys.
Speaker 1:And like it's I don't know, yeah, well, I guess I kind of took it more as like oh, this is just them taking advantage of like the people in the.
Speaker 1:It was lazy, or yeah, it was just like, wow, okay, they just randomly are going to be saved by this gang and it's like, well, that was super lucky. Yeah, yeah, it's like okay, yeah, definitely, kind of. It's just, it's like a deus ex machina thing. It's like you're just getting saved by I don't know randomness. It's like, okay, cool, all right, a lot of movies do this and yeah, this one just seemed like super lazy. Yeah, I do. I do agree with it there. My ugly is, uh, it's made me think about modern politics too much.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I feel so bad, oh it's like oh man, it was mainly like the whole like church and government thing.
Speaker 2:Yes, where I was like Theocracy, just really hope that never happens, man Jeez. Louise, I do too it's like, let's just keep it separate.
Speaker 1:Everybody has. We have our two things, let's just keep it separate. You can still of those things we're all saying, we just got to keep them separated. So what's the fine for you? The fine Mm, hmm.
Speaker 2:Mm, hmm, I do like a movie about anti-government. Yeah, shit, yeah Doesn't really matter what kind of government it is, it's just like the whole idea of uh, freedom fighters and like anti-government stuff. I like it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that ages well always, because there's always going to be the bullshit in the government you don't like and you wish you could just remove with a, with violence yeah, yeah, um, my, my, what age well is, uh, frank grillo, even though I never talk about him or anything and never mentioned this to you, jason, but I love the guy and I keep talking about how much I like him. He's just really good in the Captain America movies, hell yeah, and there's like a few others I've seen of him. He's just he's a good actor and he's just kind of like a I'm the fight guy and it's like you know, I love actors that are like that.
Speaker 1:It's like if we made movies like this anymore, he'd be like our Jean-Claude Van Damme Hell, yeah, like our time, or someone like that. But because we don't make movies centered around people like that anymore, we can't have like.
Speaker 2:I feel like he would have really been a big actor If he was like in the 80s or something, he'd have probably his run of his own like action films.
Speaker 1:I feel like um and something else that age will. Um, I guess, blumhouse man, they can just make a movie for like $10 and, you know, make this this movie was for $10 million budget and it made over a hundred million dollars. Nice, that's why these movies kept getting made. Hell yeah, man. Whether or not they had any creative ideas, it's still fun. I don't know.
Speaker 1:No, I still because, like, uh, last year, year before, I watched all these and just enjoyed watching them. Yeah, it's like, would it be a movie that I did on the podcast if there was an election and this movie was called election year? Maybe not, um, cool, so we're going to go to our double feature. It's where we pick a movie that to go watch alongside of this movie.
Speaker 2:What you got well, I, instead of a movie, I just, uh, I thought maybe a series that I just recently started watching and then again was a legend of vox mackina. It's, uh, never heard of it. It's on amazon prime it is so the dnd like real play podcast, the critical role. Their first campaign was so popular they made it into an animated series. Oh yeah, I remember you telling me about this and it's.
Speaker 1:I have heard of it so much fun to watch.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I've been listening to them for years and the animated version. It's not exactly like you know, the podcast, but it's. It's still really cool a lot.
Speaker 1:Of it's a lot of fun, I just.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of cool deaths you know there's a lot of like badass action sequences yeah, all right, it's just really fun what was it called again? Fox. The legend of vox machina.
Speaker 1:Machina Cool, so check that out. And then, if you want to check my movie out, it's called Ready or Not. It's made by Radio Silence, the people that did the two new Screams films and Abigail Sure all three pretty fun movies. This movie is hella fun. It's in terms of, like it being like Purge, essentially so. A bride's wedding night takes a sinister turn when her eccentric new in-laws force her to take part in a terrifying game. Oh shit, it's essentially like a cat and mouse thing. So it's more similar to the first Purge, but done like hell rad. If you haven't seen this movie, you should. The ending is so fun. That sounds awesome. There's plenty of blood, explosions of blood.
Speaker 2:That's all I'm going to say.
Speaker 1:Ready or Not, it's so fun. What's?
Speaker 2:it on.
Speaker 1:I think it's on Max. I believe it was on Max forever. It's got to be on something. It always usually is, but it's not super scary, but it's like fun horror type thing. Hell, yeah, man. But that's our episode on purge, the election year, fuck girl. Um, yeah, make sure you know we gotta vote, guys. They tell us it matters, so get out there and vote, baby vote or die, that's what they used to say yeah, shit, dude god damn, that's.
Speaker 1:I forgot that. He's the one that said that I completely forgot. He's the one that said that I completely forgot. He's the one that said that.
Speaker 2:Vote. Almost sent you a meme of that. Get suffocated by baby oil. Oh no. Waterboarded.
Speaker 1:So yes, Make sure you go vote out there or PDD will come get you. Nobody wants that. And join us next week because we're going to be doing a film that was requested through an email we got. You probably heard it on one of our October ones. We're doing Mars Attacks because it was recommended by someone who wrote us an email sent?
Speaker 1:us a text message which you can do. If you look into our description, the top is a link that you can hit and it'll send you to your text message app and then you just text us whatever you want to talk about god.
Speaker 2:I cannot fucking wait.
Speaker 1:I love this movie so much. And then we also have our email at the very bottom of the description. We recommend mailbag at gmailcom. So join us next week for Mars Attacks so funny.
Speaker 1:It's one of my Favorite, tim Burton movies, still when he was in his bag, baby. And if you want to follow us on social medias, go to our link tree, link tree, forward slash. We recommend podcast. It's quickest way to get to our social medias and where I don't have to say 500 different social media handles. And thank you, joey Prosser, for our intro and outro music. You can follow him on X at Mr Joey Prosser. And yeah, that's everything. This has been the we Recommend podcast. I'm Jesse, I'm Jason. Go vote you heathens or the purge will get you. Purge on me. Daddy, thanks for watching.
