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Children of Men
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What happens when the human race faces extinction due to a global infertility crisis? "Children of Men" presents a chilling dystopian vision that eerily mirrors the challenges of our modern world, and in this episode, we explore every tense moment and impactful theme. From the refugee crises that echo real-world events, to the societal divisions that feel all too familiar, we unpack the film's haunting portrayal of a world without children. Through our discussion, we pay homage to Alfonso Cuarón's visionary direction and the unforgettable performances that bring this harrowing future to life. You'll discover the cultural nods throughout the film, including the subtle yet powerful references to iconic art and music.
Alfonso Cuarón's career is a tapestry of cinematic brilliance, and we take you on a journey through his illustrious filmography. Hear about his rise with films like "Y Tu Mamá También," the transformation he brought to the Harry Potter series, and the groundbreaking innovation seen in "Gravity." We also touch on the poignant beauty of "Roma," and the controversy surrounding its Oscar snub. With humor, we reflect on how "Children of Men" diverged from its literary roots, emphasizing the film's profound narrative on human survival. Cuarón's genius lies in his ability to craft stories that resonate long after the credits roll, and we celebrate the subtleties that demand viewers' full attention.
Get ready for a thrilling exploration of gripping scenes and thought-provoking concepts. The opening sequence of "Children of Men" sets the stage for an apocalyptic journey that feels all too real. Our conversation covers the intense car chases, the gripping conflicts, and the moments of unexpected humor that illuminate the human spirit. We dive into the societal implications of Baby Diego's death and the moral complexities faced by characters thrust into a harsh, crumbling world. Through laughter, suspense, and deep insights, we examine how these cinematic moments reflect the human condition, offering a compelling look at resilience, hope, and the quest for survival in a fractured society.
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Hello and welcome to the we Recommend podcast, a movie podcast where every week we recommend a movie for you to watch and then come back here and listen to us discuss. I'm Jesse, I'm Jason. As the sound of the playgrounds faded, the despair set in. Very odd, what happens in a world without children's voices? Because this week we recommend Children of Men.
Speaker 2Children of men. How real is this movie right now?
Speaker 1Yeah, it's on. I was like one of the things I was going to ask you is like hey, so man, this was made during the Bush war era. Right, you know, you had all the you know, the refugees then and there was a lot of like war that they were having to deal with. And I'm like, wow, so it just continues, huh.
Speaker 2It just never ends. Yeah, You're just like you're watching it and you're thinking this movie is so entertaining. We'll never ban immigrants.
Speaker 1Yeah, We'll never just want to like just to pour them all and put them in some sort of camp?
Speaker 2Yeah, we'll never have camps for stuff like this. Why would we?
Speaker 1ever do that and then like one half of everybody's like get rid of them all, and then there's going to be another half that probably definitely becomes like the other side and they all start fighting. That'll never happen. Nah, just luckily, instead of in the streets, it's all just over.
Speaker 2Twitter and this whole thing about them everyone being infertile. It reminded me of the 4B movement in South Korea.
Speaker 1Oh, I heard about that.
Speaker 2It's where women have the 4Bs stand for the Korean words for like. They refuse to marry men, date men have sex with men and have babies with men. Wow, like, suck it. Yeah, we're going to remove children from the equation, or like Then what are you going to do? Then what are you going to do? Yeah, but that's not really what happened here, I guess.
Speaker 1This is just such a good idea for a movie. I know.
Speaker 2It's awesome.
Speaker 1It could not have been made better by the directing and acting and everything. It's perfect. Just the idea that, like shit, there's going to be no more humans anymore. What the fuck am I doing?
Speaker 2Working or anything at this point. Imagine how happy people on planes must be now.
Speaker 1Yeah, there's no more crying babies ever, thank goodness. Just too bad.
Speaker 2There's nuclear warfare and everything else, and the whole human race is going to die in a few years.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's. I mean, I guess it's just whenever you, because I was thinking about that. I was like, why is everybody just fighting all the time, though it's like, can we just keep living like we are without having to blow each other up just because we can't make kids? But then I was just thinking, no, someone's probably like, well, we're all gonna die, there's gonna be nobody left who cares about the planet.
Speaker 1Let's do what we want. I want to attack america. So then you get like a little video on one of the tv screens of like a nuke going off in new y. City and it's like, yeah, that just seems like probably what will happen, like Putin's going to just bomb something or any other of the bad guys. Hell yeah, maybe.
Speaker 2I don't know. I really like what his brother did. He had the statue of David in his house.
Speaker 1Yeah, fuck, yeah man. And then you had the giant like the animal. What's the Pink Floyd album that has like the giant floating pig? It's like obviously a reference to that album, which is great. Yeah, there's a lot of like music references yeah, and it's just, you know, kind of Pink Floyd just talking about how you know, rich people are pigs and stuff like that. So you know, you got this guy in his high rise in the middle of no desolate area, and so yeah, here's some rich pig.
Speaker 2I thought it was. I really thought it was a. I didn't make the musical reference to Pink Floyd, but I was thinking of like Animal Farm, a.
Speaker 1George Orwell. That's also where they kind of inspired that album too. Yeah, hell, george Orwell. That's also where they kind of inspired that album too. Yeah, yeah, hell, yeah. Dude, the only reason I remember that is because I have a shirt with that album on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like as soon as I saw that pic, I was like fuck, yeah, I remember doing my first solo and I remember it now. So what is?
Speaker 2it about. I like the dystopia police state. Yeah, it's so entertaining to watch and not be a part of.
Speaker 1It is terrifying. Yes, it's something that also that I read during the faxes. They were whenever Alfonso Cuaron, the director of this, when he was like, yeah, I want to make it, it's going to be futuristic. And, of course, our director is like we love futuristic, let's go ham.
Speaker 2It's only two years from now. He's like wait?
Speaker 1not Blade Runner, futuristic we're talking about. Near future we're talking about like we just got screens everywhere and everything's about to blow up. Yeah, but, like the technology is not too far off. They have computers in the cars, yeah, I mean essentially. I mean we have that, but it just attaches to our cell phones instead. Right, Instead of having needing a keyboard, we just have our phones and they're like.
Speaker 2Screens are everywhere, just like 1984. Yeah, you can't escape the screen.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's wild. It's, I think, for me man, the directing and the filmography in it.
Speaker 3It's very good.
Speaker 1Very good, like the one shots. This was something like after this movie. Everybody was like we're doing this all the time. Like you know the car scene, when they're in the middle of the woods, get attacked, it's all one long shot. It's like, oh, is this like the greatest thing I've ever seen? And then you got the seven minute shot of when they're fighting. They key gets her baby taken and there's a whole battle through that building. It's one shot.
Speaker 1Yeah, up inside that building, it's one shot oh yeah, because he, because it looks like it's just like a home video camera, like some dudes, because it's shaking yeah, it's shaking but it really works so well because you know, and usually just you're just like somebody next to clive owen, running behind him a little bit, and it makes you feel, wow, refugees that are stuck in this shitty situations. It really sucks for them. I just kept getting emotional while watching it. I was like golly, this movie is it's 9 am in the morning.
Speaker 2What am I doing to myself? It was. I thought the most powerful scene was, uh, the whenever they're coming out of that building and then everybody stops. Yeah, that was cool, it's just like just for a minute.
Speaker 1Everybody's like fuck, it's a baby, wait, is there even any reason to fight anymore? Someone shoots. Oh yeah, that's right. We're already kind of into this.
Speaker 2We're in the middle of a war.
Speaker 1Yeah, let's get back to it, oh and this having and just having all the people like touch his foot and stuff. Oh no, His little baby foot.
Speaker 2Yeah, oh Jesus, this gave me baby fever like crazy.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2And I hated it.
Speaker 1Yeah, I don't want more babies. Whenever I was just like touching the foot and like it's like oh no, this cute CGI baby that looks pretty darn good for CGI.
Speaker 3Somebody bites it.
Speaker 1Yeah, give me that toe. It darn good for CGI. Somebody bites it. Yeah, give me that toast. It's like, stop with the jokes. I want to know what the heck happened to Clive Owen. That's what it is he's like. You know, I saw him in this. He's dead now. No, he's still around. It's just like, bro, you're so good Like. I've only three or four different movies that I can think of. Have you ever seen? Shoot them up?
Speaker 1No, but I know that something with carrots in it. That's hilarious. Yeah, there's like this part where he just slides for like five minutes of the movie and it's like it's so funny. It was just like I don't have a funny goof, like parody movie Almost If you think about it, there's really no roles for handsome British guy anymore.
Speaker 1That's true. They all Zero, zero. Hey, jason, everybody's British in our movies. By the way, you think you're watching American? You'll watch an interview and be like God, dang it, he's British as well. Shit, get him out of here. Ban all immigrants. Like all we got is Jake Gyllenhaal and Leo.
Speaker 2Everybody else is British.
Speaker 1I don't know, but man, he's really good in this and he's got one of those faces where you're just like I trust you, yeah, and I feel like everybody in this movie, apparently, yeah, and I really like what they did with the pets, with like dog, with animals, all of them.
Speaker 2Because, they all loved him, and so it's kind of like this idea that he doesn't really give a fuck about being a good dude anymore. But he is, yeah, he just is, and you know.
Speaker 1So the fun thing is at the beginning of the movie like there's animals barking at him and stuff until after Julian's death, oh really. And then all the animals trust him because he's like now he's like I got something to fight for and stuff like that. So they knew it before. Yeah, because I was like, because it was just there was this point at the very beginning where, like there was like a dog just bark at him like viciously.
Speaker 1And I was like dang, dude, he's just walking down the street. And then after that, every single animal loved him and I was like, oh cool, but something I also noticed there's always two of every animal. They all love him. Dude, he's Noah, oh shit. And then I looked it up and I was like and then, you know, I kind of started thinking. I was like wait, hold on, is this like any other connection?
Speaker 3Everybody's like, yeah, dude, I think the whole point of this is he's not.
Speaker 1I don't know I don't really get it. Well, there's a she reveals that she's pregnant in a barn.
Speaker 2She's supposed to yeah, she's supposed to be like Mary Magdalene or not, mary. Magdalene, but Mary, son of mother of God. Which is fun. I don't know. It was interesting. Yeah, that was okay and it was interesting. The religion that they had was like super weird and crazy.
Speaker 1Well, it seemed like there was. I think it was at that point that everybody that was with them was kind of a different type of religious person, like the. It seemed like the miriam, I feel like she was doing like she was doing buddhist stuff she put she put the. The thing on her forehead was like a buddhist oh yeah, and she's doing like tai chi yeah, some weird form of form of Tai Chi.
Speaker 1And I think there's, like you know, because this is an area where all these refugees have come in. It's like you know, everybody's got their different religion and stuff.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's just kind of like a blending of all of them. Yeah, and those dudes running through this. They were walking.
Speaker 1Yeah, but then it's like just a little bit later down the scene then you have like a group of French refugees in there and it's just like shit. Everybody's in this camp, like every religion, and it's anybody. That's not British or United UK, you know is considered a refugee Even someone like France Right.
Speaker 2Yeah, because I think this, in this universe, britainland or whatever the fucking call it, yeah, uh, it's like the last city on earth that still has any kind of civilization because they had like that news thing that says all these fucking people died. British prevailed now, we're not gonna let anybody in, yeah, oh.
Speaker 1Also, whenever I saw the pig in, uh, whenever they showed the pig in the background, I just immediately thought of uh, what's the Black Mirror, the very first episode? Did you ever watch it? I think so. It's where he, like he has to have like the prime minister has to have like sex with the pig. Yeah, and as soon as I saw that, I was like just kind of laughed a little bit too.
Speaker 2Black Mirror is so cool. Yeah, it's wild, fucked up and weird.
Alfonso Cuaron's Filmography and Green Book
Speaker 1I love it. Yeah, so we'll talk about afonso cron a little bit. Um, he's so good dude, like every movie that he does, like the cinematography is amazing. He kind of got famous for why? To mama tambien, I'm sorry I was gonna butcher it. I didn't want to bring it in. I need a watch. I haven't, and then he did. Why is it pronounced E? E2.
Speaker 2E2.
Speaker 1E2 means like and you, hey guys, I shouldn't have a podcast because I don't know how to pronounce anything, and I'm so sorry. But then that movie got him Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban. Damn. That's when those movies started looking different and less childlike.
Speaker 2Yeah, they did have a couple of teenage deaths in that one.
Speaker 1And then they're like, hey, great job Do Children of Men, yeah. And then he did Gravity. Did you like Gravity? I don't know. Sandra Bullock in Space with George Clooney, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2That's one. Yeah, that's one, yeah. Where she like he gets jettisoned out, yeah, and he's just like don't worry, yeah, bye, bye, don't forget to drink my espresso. Sucks pretty much Bye.
Speaker 1And then he did Roma and he hasn't done anything since. Roma is like a. It's a movie, all right, it was up for like Oscars and stuff. It's about like Is it about the Romani people? I think just Mexican people Is that Romani?
Speaker 2No, I don't know. I mean Roma. Is Rome right For?
Speaker 1Italians In the life of a middle class families made in Mexico City in the early 1970s. Okay, oh, Mexico City in the early 1970s. Okay, oh, dude. Just looking at the trailer, it looked beautiful. People thought it was going to win the Best Picture and it didn't. I don't remember what it did. I think that was the Green Book year, which everybody was like.
Speaker 2I never saw the.
Speaker 1Green.
Speaker 3Book.
Speaker 1Yes, Everybody was mad. It's like, of course, we have the movie about, like you know, this beautiful, great movie about, like you know, these Mexican people in 1970s, but they give it to the White Savior movie, Of course. And Green Book, I believe, was produced by, produced or directed by one half of the people that did Dumb and Dumber.
Speaker 2Which half I'm looking it up the bottom half. This is really like.
Speaker 1Peter Farley.
Speaker 2I feel like the bottom half did Dumb and Dumber. The top half did that Because there are all kinds of fart jokes.
Speaker 1Yeah, so the director of Dumb and Dumber there's Something About Mary has won an Oscar for Green Book.
Speaker 2I love Something About Mary, I actually haven't seen Green Book. You know, I think it's one of those movies that kind of just got really shit on because it won an oscar and everybody didn't want it to be the one that won the oscar, which happens quite often in movies and we have to stop and just appreciate films.
Speaker 1I want to watch it now. That's my ted talk, all right. Well, bro, let's get into some facts. Where we get into this? Amazing. I love facts, feed, facts, feed me. So in the movie, the infertility crisis is a result of all women being infertile. In the original novel, which this is a book by PD James, it's a result of men producing no sperm. Oh shit, do you think they just changed it because of a more powerful kind of visual of just like you? Know trying to get a woman, you have to blame the women.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's basically the whole thing.
Speaker 1I definitely don't think this movie like, had that intention of like, oh, we got to blame the women, because the movie doesn't really blame women.
Speaker 2Basically, but everything with religion especially everything is the woman's fault all the time.
Speaker 1So like I could, a part of me just thinks that they really. He just like I'll have so much better imagery if it's a woman pregnant you know, with a barn sub, even just the last shot of like it's just a woman alone on the ocean, yeah, with her baby, like because I couldn't remember if the boat showed up at the end.
Speaker 2I was like deadbeat boyfriend. Yeah, it was actually dead.
Redefining Cinema Through Children of Men
Speaker 1Yeah, he's dead, don't do shit, yeah, good job, and so the writer and director, alfonso Cuaron, stated that he didn't want to make a film that ends when the credits rolls. He wanted to make a film that, when the final credits roll, that's really the beginning of the film, and I want a sequel.
Speaker 2Yeah, a good way to finish this movie off is to add a bunch of creepy child laughter.
Speaker 1No, it's emotional. It made me feel things.
Speaker 2Now, if the boat would have showed up with a bunch of kids operating it, that would have been incredible. Yeah, lord of the Flies.
Speaker 1It's just like oh, oh. By the way, you remember the movie beyond thunderdome, mad max.
Speaker 2Well, we made it through that now we're here to get you guys. I haven't seen it. I don't know the reference. Oh, is it all children?
Speaker 1well, like he just like escapes from the thunderdome area and then he finds some kids like in the desert, like living like it's fucking peter pan. Hell yeah, dude. No, it sucked.
Speaker 2That part of me sucks okay yeah, find some kids like in the desert like living like it's fucking Peter Pan.
Speaker 3Hell yeah, dude. No, it sucked that part of me sucks, oh, okay yeah.
Speaker 1So this movie never explains the reason for the infertility. This has been attributed to Quran's dislike for expository film. Totally agree with him. There's a. He says there's a kind of cinema I detest which is a cinema that is about exposition and explanations. He once said it's become a medium for lazy readers. Cinema is a hostage of narrative, and I'm very good at narrative as a hostage of cinema.
Speaker 2So what do you think lazy reading is? You just kind of like read a little bit and you get tired.
Speaker 1Well, the movie just explains the whole theme point and like everything. So you know, like most of our like the most popular movies, I would say like superhero movies, right when it's like sure, if there's a mystery into it, it's going to be explained in depth. By the end of it it's like, well, we could have just kind of figured it out.
Speaker 2Oh, so you're saying that they don't give the viewer enough credit?
Speaker 1to be able to understand what's going on. It's not like, let's say, Severance right.
Speaker 3Since we both watched it.
Speaker 1So the beginning of season one, something I noticed because we watched the first two episodes last night the brother and sister, adam Scott and his sister right, they don't just come out like hi sister, hey brother, you can just kind of tell by the way they like banter with each other and it's like it's a very brother and sister thing. But like some movies would be like oh, I got to go hang out with my sister at this party who she has a husband and does this. It's just like show don't tell type of thing.
Speaker 2And I guess I like her brother.
Speaker 1Why are they together? It makes no sense.
Speaker 2I was asking Natalie Because he's a rich author. I was like.
Speaker 1You know what makes me think that.
Speaker 2I don't like her character anymore.
Speaker 1It's because she's with this guy that makes no sense.
Speaker 2No, he seems very sensitive.
Speaker 1He seems like he's got a lot wrong with him. Yeah, seems like I would not like to hang out with this guy.
Speaker 2He's like always on his high horse. Yeah, oh God, that's like a hater. He makes books for corporate shivs. Yeah, he's just trying to bring him back to the light. That's all he's doing his part.
Speaker 1Why would anybody be that guy? But to be honest, in that show, like outside of the main characters like everybody's kind of insane. Yeah, like the way everybody talks and stuff. So anyways, back to this movie. Sorry, I got severance on the brain really hard. So the street battle where Theo.
Speaker 3I'm severed right now.
Speaker 1Oh wow, that's my real job. It was. Which Jason do I know, then? Just as bad as this, one aside from the other one. So in the street battle where Theo has to take cover in a battered building caused concern for the studio, as it took 14 days to prepare this one shot, with a delay of five hours every time it had to be reshot what it was shot over the course of two days, but only one complete take was actually captured on film. In the middle of one take, some blood spattered on the camera lens. This is kind of when he's going through the bus at this work. To the end, writer and director Alfonso Cuaron nearly ended this take by shouting cut, but his voice was obliterated by a sound of a tank gunfire.
Speaker 2He said cunt instead.
Speaker 1He's like cut. Somebody shot him but the cinematographer persuaded him to leave it and uh, you know that scene fucking rules because of it. Yeah, it's cool as fuck.
Speaker 2Man always let blood on your this movie's got a lot of like the last of us vibes for me it really delivering the girl that's immune to the disease, or whatever. Yeah, it's awesome, yeah, fucking rules.
Speaker 1You can definitely see there's so much I feel like, well, obviously the Last of Us. It's a very cinematic game, so it definitely took from different movies, and Children of Men had to be very inspiring for them, and it had to be a fungus that sucked the semen yeah from yeah it's not mushroom semen in the air, it's like spores. Yeah, it's not man's fault.
Speaker 2We got mushroom semen in the air. It's like spores mixed with semen.
Speaker 3It's like ew yucky. I was worried about spores, but now it's got common.
Speaker 1So out of the three extended tracking shots, and tracking shots is, you know, like the long takes and stuff where it follows them around. So when Key gives birth, that's three minutes and 19 seconds, one shot. There's the ambush on the country road, that's four minutes and seven seconds. Like starts with them driving and them having fun and with a ball game, yeah, and then it ends with the police getting shot.
Speaker 2Weird place to have a sexy party game. Yeah.
Speaker 1But I was there for it, I know. And then the raging street battle. Like the most insane part of the movie is seven minutes and 34 seconds, though not completely one shot, because through careful editing and a little digital help, each of these scenes are not actually all one seamless shot, but very subtly spliced together. We've been lied.
Speaker 2But it's great, I like being lied to.
Speaker 1Something that you might have missed. You know the guy with the crazy dreads. Yeah, yeah, it looked familiar. Yeah, charlie Hunnam from. I've seen him before. He is from what's the fucking motorcycle movie on FX movie, pacific Rim. He's the main character of Pacific Rim, oh shit that's like a big robot. Kaiju movie indeed, it very much is. He's gonna be ed gein in the new, like you know. Yeah, it's a guy from sons of anarchy. That's the shit I was trying to talk about. Oh, okay, yeah, I was like that's what?
Speaker 2because that's the first thing I thought of when he said that. But it's not a movie.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's a series. It's a series.
Speaker 2I'm sorry, but like even still, like I still don't remember him. Yeah, it's okay though, We'll get there, yeah.
Speaker 1He's crazy dreads. There was one more I wanted to do. There's so many good notes, so this movie and its source novel are full of religious imagery, befitting a story about a baby with potential to save all humanity. There are several parallels drawn between key and Mary Jesus when Theo first sees the. Our savior frilly, yeah, bazooka if our savior is, or Bazooka, yeah.
Speaker 2If our savior is named Bazooka.
Speaker 1Fuck yeah, man, I just love that part where he's like all right, I finally got used to Froli.
Speaker 2Now you're going to name it after Bazooka. No, Froli's a boy's name. What Are we sure?
Speaker 1But when Theo first sees that Ki is pregnant, she is in a stable.
Speaker 3Oh, when Theo first sees that Ki is pregnant. She is in a stable oh, like I said earlier.
Speaker 1You know, just like a major, yeah, slice of nipples off and then he's like Jesus.
Speaker 2Christ. He yells that after.
Speaker 1When Theo asks who the father is, Ki at first jokes that she's a virgin. Another not to marry. The rebel group that Julian works with is called the Fishies the Fishies the Fishies has been a symbol of Christianity since the second century AD. I know the name, they just take everything. The name of the main character, Theo, is derived from the Greek word for God. The title Children of More. Men is from quotation of from Palms, 90. Psalms, psalms 90.
Speaker 2I said Palms it's from, fists it's from fists.
Speaker 1I'm getting so fucking pissed off here. Hell yeah man, I'm getting fucking pissed. Fucking love that chapter.
Speaker 2That'd be badass if it was just like Fight Club in the Bible. Yeah.
Speaker 1I'd read that shit Also. Just one last thing Patrick the guy with the dreads when, just because you know, towards the middle of the movie they're like they're able to find Jasper and it's like how he was pretty yeah.
Speaker 2How the fuck did they find him yeah?
Speaker 1So whenever he first goes to visit Jasper, um, I guess, um, patrick was actually on the bus whenever he's going to go meet Jasper behind him, so that's how he knew where he might be. I just want to add that in as one of the facts, just because that makes sense. Yeah, but yeah, that's all the facts I got for it. I'm going to have to cut that one out.
Speaker 3I'm going to fact it up now.
Speaker 1I'm ready to go. I got so many facts in me. I'm going to explode with all these facts. I'm going to fact all over this. I got some facts in my hair.
Speaker 2Oh God, I've got facts in my hair. Oh God.
Speaker 3I've got some in my eyeballs. These facts are making me cry Snakes like just let me out of this room If this is what you're going to do, just let me out of this room.
Speaker 2I don't care how much I love Jason.
Speaker 1I don't want to be with him anymore.
Speaker 2All right, bro, Fact me daddy Now that we're having so much fun.
Speaker 1Should we talk about some of the worst stuff? We're gonna like hell yeah, let's do it. Some really shitty stuff, now shitty stuff. And how is this gonna remind? Us what is shitty about anything? Anything, that's true. So curious if you just don't look at it or think about it. None of it's shitty. No, yeah, like the cousin right. Like the cousin right. It's like what's the point of having all this if no one's going to be here in a hundred years?
Speaker 3I just don't think about it that fucking cut me to the core because you know, especially now, because you know I don't.
Speaker 1I'm just like I can't keep hearing everybody complain about politics, so I'm just like I'm just I don't care you don't watch it constantly and you're constantly mad, sad and scared.
Speaker 2And then you know at work.
Speaker 1People like you just kind of hear people talk about it and just like I don't care.
Speaker 3I don't, because I avoid everyone.
Speaker 1Well, I try People talk loudly in the break room.
Speaker 2I know you just have to ignore it at all costs, all right, here we go.
Speaker 1Baby Time for Children of Men, 2006. So the year is 2027. Not too far away. Getting nervous here. Getting nervous, I know. Nearly two decades after infertility crisis struck humanity, in more than 18 years since the last child was born, the world is in chaos and the United Kingdom houses the only functioning government remaining. I almost said functioning, yeah, hell yeah, they be functioning, fucking and shit up. All right boys.
Speaker 2I mean, if you knew that you could never have a baby again. It's just like all orgies all the time.
Speaker 1I feel like this is how Katie got pregnant. That was, yeah, that was something interesting. Uh, because you know, whenever he's like asking is like do you know who the baby is, and she's like the dad, she's like I don't know which one, because you know it's like if can't have sex, I mean if you can't have babies, like that pretty much gets rid of all the stress about like, oh, we shouldn't have sex because you know.
Speaker 2I mean obviously other than when she found out, she's like I fucking skipped her.
Speaker 1Her pill day. It is one of those things where it's like, out of all the guy dang women here, I know it's got to be me that gives birth. God damn it. This is going to be so stressful on me now and a whole future plan of not having babies. I was going to get railed every day this year.
Speaker 2So it's okay to be sex positive. Yeah exactly, I'm just saying like how, like she was young, she probably just like well, fuck, like now, my life's going to be different forever.
Speaker 1Yeah, I'm going to be the first one Like, not only do I just have to.
Speaker 2Why me Unexpectingly have a kid that I did not plan on having, but I've also never been taught about anything about having kids, because nobody thought anyone would have kids ever again, which, I feel like, is what we're trying to do now.
Speaker 3Yes.
Dystopian Future Coffee Shop Explosion
Speaker 1But also like oh great. But now it's like, oh great, I. But also like oh great. But now it's like oh great, I'm a fucking celebrity. Now Everybody's going to be wanting to talk to me. I mean, it drove that one baby Diego, insane. Speaking of that, we should probably get going, oh OK. So we see Theo Farron. He's on his way to work in London, but he stops to get some coffee where he walks into this place and everybody's like crying.
Speaker 2It's a great shot immediately diego died.
Speaker 1Yeah, then we learned that poor like 18 year old baby diego died and he's the youngest kid, youngest person alive.
Speaker 2He's not even a kid anymore.
Speaker 1He's always been a celebrity, since he was a little baby. Apparently. He, he just like, is constantly being like pummeled by people wanting his autograph and stuff, which is just so fascinating to me that people are like we have no celebrities anymore. It's you, dude, we have to fan out about somebody. You're going to be the last human. And then he spit in one of their faces and they kill him. Yeah, so he gets his coffee, Luckily as. Jasper will say a little later he didn't get coffee or sugar, or cream or sugar.
Speaker 2He did, but he put it in later. Yeah that's true. He waited Because the room was crowded.
Speaker 1As he leaves that coffee shop he walks a little bit down. We see this great futuristic, like apocalyptic, like city that looks real and dirty and gross.
Speaker 2There's all these catamarans.
Speaker 1Yeah, and then the coffee shop explodes.
Speaker 2They hate coffee in the future. What a great intro. And if you think about it, columbia hates us. Now with the tariffs, yeah, coffee's going to be bad, like coffee's going to be hard to come by.
Speaker 1I will see you somewhere else. We'll get Canadian. Oh, I know Canadian coffee.
Speaker 2I'll be down with that. We can get.
Speaker 1Hawaiian coffee. They make coffee there.
Speaker 2Okay, I don't know why I said that. I didn't know that Is it volcanic?
Speaker 1I don't know Hope it is, but anyways what?
Speaker 2a great opening right.
Speaker 1Because then, like the camera kind of starts running away from Clive Owen and then, like you just see this woman walk out and she's got no arm.
Speaker 2Yeah, she's holding it. What was the movie? The World War II movie, where they're on the beach storming Normandy with Brad Pitt.
Speaker 1Yeah, saving, private Ryan Saving.
Speaker 2Private Ryan. He comes out holding his arm. That's the greatest war movie ever made. God damn it. I know it's just like sometimes war movies really mess me up. So this movie wasn't so bad. Yeah, because there weren't a lot of alarms. Yeah, except for Jas't like a lot of alarms.
Speaker 1Yeah, except for.
Speaker 3Jasper's, which is why Jasper's alarm is fucking insane.
Speaker 1It was sick, it was metal, so it wasn't the same. My favorite alarm ever Should make that my ringtone Natalie would be like what the hell I?
Speaker 2know, it was so uncomfortable yeah.
Speaker 1It made me feel bad.
Speaker 1Definitely wakes you the fuck up though. Yeah, but yeah, what a great, just what a great intro. It looked beautiful, everything's great, and then you just immediately you're stuck into this vibe. People are like, oh shit. People are like young kid, 18-year-old, youngest person on the planet. You immediately walk out, looks terrible, and then there's like bombings inside just random buildings and it's like, oh uh, there was points where this was the some people's lives, even in today, in like 2000 so it's like it just also gives you the idea that there's like factions working against the government and coffee factions working against other factions.
Speaker 1I hate coffee. I love.
Speaker 2When that happens, what the fuck was that man?
Speaker 1you never felt those before. No earth, earth rattling, no, what. That happens all the time. You never hear it. Nope, when it's just like a rumble, it's like that. You feel everything shaking around you. I don't know what exactly it is, and if you do know, go to the link in the description to let us know. Jason's freaking the fuck out. His face is immediately terrified. The world is ending Back when I, where I used to live. It used to happen often, but now, where I live, now it just is. It does it like almost two to three days Maybe it's like a transformer exploding.
Speaker 1No I think it's probably like the earth shifting or whatever. So did you get your haircut?
Speaker 2recently I got it cut like two months ago.
Escape and Rebellion in Dystopian World
Speaker 1Oh Well, it looks nice. Thanks, man. I just thought you recently got a haircut. I was like, oh, I like your haircut, but anyways. So, Theo, right After the bombing he just decides. I guess I'll just go to work. Yeah, Everybody's crying over the fact that baby Diego's dead. Everybody's just looking at their monitors crying every single person is watching this here's what I love.
Speaker 1Pio goes to his boss and instead of saying, hey, I almost blew up in a coffee shop, yeah, he's like, I'm just really affected by baby diego's death and he gets him out of work yeah, because his boss is like I don't give a fuck man.
Speaker 2Yeah, the world's ending for real do whatever you want.
Speaker 1I don't even know what this job is.
Speaker 2I'm assuming it works on like newspaper or something I guess bombings are like so normal they're more normal yeah.
Speaker 1And being sad about the boss is like great, yeah, walk by two bombings today.
Speaker 2He's like yeah I don't give a fuck, dude, just go. It's a pretty pretty wild excuse.
Speaker 1It's like oh, someone died, like you don't even know.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, you can go home oh yeah, by the way, I was almost killed, yeah yeah, you know actually now you gotta stay um, and then we cut to a video while he's on a bus.
Speaker 1We see the essentially a video of the world burning, like how every single country has just fallen apart it's never gonna happen, right never. We said here first folks, yeah and then we uh, don't worry, you'll always have this podcast, unless we lose all the wi-fi nope, never gonna happen.
Speaker 2Never. We're gonna be around forever, we're gonna be fine.
Speaker 1everybody's too dramatic, we, we'll be fine. So and he's like watching this while on a train or a bus or something, and then we see like this great shot of just like all these I guess the refugees just like throwing stuff at the train.
Speaker 2Do you like how they call them Fugees? Yeah, that's great Like a band Fugees Remember that that's probably a G killing me softly.
Speaker 1Hey, maybe that's why they don't seem to be killing people softly here, do?
Speaker 2you think that's why they call themselves the Fugees refugees? Dude, I don't know.
Speaker 1I don't know, I don't know, tell us. Isn't that their last name? I don't know. I just assumed it was their last name just blew my mind so he goes to his dealer, a friend named Jasper Michael Caine baby.
Speaker 2I feel like they're closer than just dealer because, like Jasper used to be, I know they're like best friends. Yeah, because I'm guessing that Theo is a reporter right.
Speaker 2That's what it feels like yeah, and he's been a reporter for like 20 years or whatever, and Jasper, he's a cartoonist, he is a cartoonist. Yeah, oh, like 20 years or whatever, and Jasper it's a cartoonist, he is a cartoonist. Oh, I didn't get that. But like you see all the newspaper clippings in Jasper's house and like he's probably like the guy that broke the soul story and then he went, had to go into hiding, and like that's probably how they got to know each other and that's he reminds me a lot of my mother-in-law's partner.
Speaker 1Yeah, kyle, just like a hilarious pot smoking guy. Yeah, it's like it's such a good hang. Yeah, and he's got all these houses full of books and shit yeah. I'm just saying like the one, like peaceful place in this entire movie is here and I'm like I hope nothing bad ever happens to Jasper.
Speaker 1I know I know his house is so fucking cool. I know it's great, but they're kind of going to the house to discuss the whole situation with the bombing and the baby Diego dying. He's a wanker. They also talk about the thousands of illegal immigrants, termed Fugees, which we talked about are streaming into the UK but the government brutal refugee policies do not allow them to live peacefully. Refugee policies do not allow them to live peacefully. Instead, they are sent to inhumane refugees camp like the one on Beck's Hill very near Jasper's home, Because we see like the bus going by that has all the Fugees, oh yeah, and then we created up windows. Then we also get like the finger scene.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2Pull my finger. Why is it Jasper, jasper, I love Jasper so much.
Speaker 1Oh, this was the line I meant to do at the beginning of the podcast. Oh, let's hear it, Because Jasper says after escaping the worst atrocities and escaping to England, our government hunts them down like cockroaches.
Speaker 2It's not just beans on toast, yeah.
Speaker 3Oh man, because you know I was just like, oh, this actually sounds pretty good.
Speaker 1Yeah, sometimes beans on toast. It's British as hell, I know I really want to try it. It's like I want to start my day off with flatulence.
Speaker 1Hell yeah, dude. We kind of learned that Theo's a loner, has no girlfriend. We meet Jasper's wife, who's unrespondent. She's in like a catatonic state yeah, she's Jasper. And News over the existence of the Human Project, a fabled organization said to be searching for a cure for humanity's infertility. Theo says what's the point of solving infertility if the world has already gone to shit? And then we learn Jasper sneaks weed into the camps.
Speaker 2Yeah, dude, there's somebody who knows named Sid. Gotta have people like Jasper. Yeah, it's the best asshole ever he's got the strawberry weed where it's like you smoke it.
Speaker 1It doesn't taste like strawberries, but once you cough it starts tasting like strawberries. It's called strawberry cough. This is the best friend you have ever, dude. Yeah, it's like especially at the end of the world, and I love like the beginning of this movie. You have like all this chaos around him and what is it? So far it's just been a like teen stoner movie. Yeah, oh boss, I'm sick, I got to leave, I don't feel good and he just leaves and goes and hangs out and smokes pot in some dude's house. That was so rad.
Speaker 2Yeah, so it's just like hey, they have like normal.
Speaker 1They're still just being normal even though there's all this chaos around you. When you got weed, you can do any, which, by the way, everybody. How can you be normal when so much is happening around us?
Speaker 2Looking at you world.
Speaker 1We all just smoke, weed Just kidding.
Speaker 2Yes, that's why it should be legalized everywhere, whatever helps you sleep. Or just be a normal human. Just ignore the atrocities going on.
Speaker 1You gotta smoke, just smoke and watch severance fuck yeah, dude, or yeah, this happens whatever. So it's the next day. We see more people in cages and theo's kidnapped by an insurgent group called the fishes. This is where the dog barks when he walks past the cages the only dog that's ever mean to him well, maybe he's just like happy.
Speaker 2Yeah, because they bark all the time.
Speaker 1Yeah, like my dog when you get here and you're like, are you gonna kill me? And then he starts squealing and it's like oh, you're just weird.
Speaker 2I've never felt that he was gonna kill me.
Speaker 1Yeah, he's always so happy he is so happy and loud about it he loves me. Don't you take that away from me. Yeah, I won't. So, yeah, um, the fishes are. Who are fighting for the? The fishes?
Speaker 2That's so fun.
Speaker 1They're fighting for the government to recognize equal rights for all refugees. So you know At first, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2Until you figure it out.
Speaker 1Well, until someone dies which?
Speaker 2we'll get to very soon.
Speaker 1Leading the fishes is his ex-wife, julian, played by like one of the best actresses ever.
Speaker 3Julian Moore.
Speaker 2Yeah, she's amazing.
Speaker 1Oh same first name Damn the two separating following the death of their young son, Dylan, 20 years before he was lost to the flu pandemic.
Speaker 2But yeah, that hasn't happened either.
Speaker 1Yeah, only twice. Essentially, it's only happened twice since this movie.
Speaker 2But in this movie it happens in 2008. Yeah, which is when the housing crisis happened.
Speaker 1Yeah. And then you had the swine flu. Like what 2010? Yeah, which was the big flu. Yeah, ash the pig said fuck this the floating pig. Yeah, julian needs Theo to get the fish's fake transit papers so they can escort a young refugee woman to the coast. She offers him 5,000 pounds, knowing he needs money, doesn't?
Speaker 2really seem like a lot, but I guess in this time it's gotta be yeah.
Themes in Children of Men
Speaker 1And he refuses and they take him home. But you have this dope line from Julian, because you know he kind of brings up that he's that he got, he almost got blown up by that bomb. He says you know that ring in your ears that eee, oh yeah, that's a good one. That's the sound of the ears cells dying like their swan song.
Speaker 3Once it's gone.
Speaker 1You'll never hear that fricassee again. Enjoy it while it lasts. Talking about the human race, I feel like right.
Speaker 2Damn.
Speaker 1Essentially just a metaphor for the human race.
Speaker 2I just I know that I have tinnitus from being in the military, yeah, and so, like, whenever I hear it I never thought about it until now Because I saw this movie a long time ago but like hearing that line made me really worried about every time my ears are ringing and I'm just losing frequencies constantly.
Speaker 1I mean, you know, I've just been sitting on the couch and all of a sudden and I'm like, well, I don't know what I just lost, but I hope.
Speaker 2I don't need it later.
Speaker 1Probably not going to need that. I just thought it was kind of a great like. I feel like it's a metaphor for the human race in this movie at least, right?
Speaker 2Oh, I feel like it's a metaphor for like the human race in this movie, At least right. Like. Oh yeah, you hear something crying out. That's just a swan song. Yeah, as she said, I heard this like the last child's voice you heard.
Speaker 1Yeah, so Luke gives him an address if he changes his mind. This is also where you get the bad breath. Bit between.
Speaker 2That was really funny and I love how they uh, I guess they had to take this from the book, right how they, they kind of show humans, even the terrible ones, they, they show their humanity through comedy and I really like that about.
Speaker 1Yeah, there are like just a few really funny bits in this.
Speaker 2And I'm like shit, Like really good characters.
Speaker 1I was almost like I was feeling really sad and the next thing I know I'm like ha ha ha.
Speaker 2I'm like, oh, he's like yeah, because he's like your breath stinks. He's like no, it doesn't. No, it doesn't, it's so good.
Speaker 1Yes, and there's like a perfect amount, there's not like too much, right, and usually whenever most of the comedy happens, it is kind of at points where it's like it's kind of like it's unexpected or it's just like oh, it's not like in the middle of, like a battle or something. You know it's like at appropriate times.
Speaker 2Yeah, when they have a little bit of downtime, yeah.
Speaker 1It's not like you know, the like Marvel position when they a like.
Speaker 2Marvel position of where they stop in the middle of bullets. Nothing's ever serious, let's all make jokes.
Speaker 1Though I do enjoy as well. But I'm just saying Know when it's appropriate.
Speaker 2I just love when Hulk fucks everything up? Yeah, love and Hulk.
Speaker 1Love and Hulk fucks. Sun's going down real fast, big guy. So we see Theo in a fancy car driving through run down streets until he goes through a gate, and then we see the nice rich streets with people. Yeah, they got horses zebras.
Speaker 3There's a fucking zebra zebras.
Speaker 1He's got people just like dressed up, all nice, just walking around. So that.
Speaker 2Yeah, that is like so. Yeah, cause it's all gated off and everything all nice just walking around. So yeah, that is like so.
Speaker 1Yeah, because it's all gated off and everything. So, it's like oh, that's exactly.
Speaker 2This is super rich.
Speaker 1This is where they were safe. That never happens. So he then goes to like this big giant fancy building and I'm like, oh, this must be like a government building, because it's been a while since I saw it.
Speaker 2Then.
Speaker 1I was like oh, he just lives here now. I guess this is a giant fucking compound.
Speaker 2It's amazing and that is this is where we see why doesn't he live there? I don't know Anybody could live there.
Speaker 1I'd be like hey, cuz what up, dude. And this is where we see his cousin's like, yeah, I rescued this, get it. It got blown up a little bit, but we got it here.
Speaker 2We had to save the penis.
Speaker 1No, the penis was perfectly fine. The penis was perfect, perfect penis, delicious penis, but he was missing his other leg. We can't call the statue of David's third leg a leg.
Speaker 2I love it, I want one. Yeah, he was saying he's like my mom has a plastic one of these in her bathroom. He's like no, I got the real deal bro.
Speaker 1Yeah, also, the dogs are there, they're all. They'll like them. Well, no, these dogs like don't really come up to him, that's right.
Speaker 2These two dogs? Oh yeah, and they're Afghans.
Speaker 1Yeah, and they're not like. They don't like come up to him and like love on him. That's the dogs. Later he asked Nigel, which is his cousin, for transport papers for a lover of his, Because he's like what do you want? Essentially he's like oh yeah, I met this girl and she needs some papers. Yeah, bro, he asked him and then, essentially, he's just going to agree to do it. And then he asked him why such a fancy house when in a hundred years there will be no one to look at it?
Speaker 2he says I just don't think about it what did you think about his son's virtual fucking Rubik's?
Speaker 1Cube game he was playing.
Speaker 2It's like going ham at it too.
Speaker 1I'm like dude, you ain't got any better games than 2006. Nope, they had a Call of Duty out back then, right?
Speaker 32006, those PS2.
Speaker 2There's so many good games.
Speaker 1There's so many games Shadow Colossus Come on, let's go, baby. So he goes to tell Luke that he got the papers. The only catch is these are joint transit papers, so he will need to accompany the refugee woman to the coast, which he will do for a couple more grand.
Speaker 2Yeah, and good on Luke, he bought him like three beers.
Speaker 1Yeah, he just kept it was kind of a bit because at first he gave him one and then, like a little bit later in the scene, he gave him two, and then he's still putting more up there Like what are we doing? Yeah, Luke come by any time, Obviously something that Julian probably told Luke to do.
Speaker 2It's like look, he drinks now, so just keep going to beer.
Speaker 1He'll agree eventually.
Speaker 2But yeah, because I love like when he goes into that government building to see his cousin and he just puts out his he's got like a like a fifth of liquor. He just he's like this is my carry around.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1And just like carries it with him throughout the whole movie. That's just a life hack. Yeah, that comes important and just like carries it with him throughout the whole movie. That's just a life hack. Yeah, that comes important. Later, though, and I love that whenever, like luke shows like it's him, he like shows him a picture of like a lost dog and it's like a border collie, yeah, and then, but a teeny one, it's like their calling card the fishies yeah because that's how he wants to.
Speaker 2That's how he tells them how to get in contact with him.
Speaker 1Yeah, to To post that on the board. The immediate next scene we see him. He's at like a dog racing track right.
Speaker 2Can they still be doing dog races? Yeah, we know how bad they are to those dogs.
Speaker 1People still have to gamble, I guess. Hey look, they're killing each other in the streets.
Speaker 3They don't care about these dogs in this movie.
Speaker 1Yeah, those dogs probably have a better life than they do Even though I did find it fun that, like everybody really loved the animals, there are animals in this movie. And I was like oh yeah, they're babies to these people Aw.
Speaker 3Yeah, they are Like the lady at the end that's just constantly carrying her dog like a baby yeah.
Speaker 1They're all. This is their replacement for children, essentially. So he's at the dog park. A little old lady comes up. Have you seen this dog? He's like I know what this is. That's the secret. Yeah, and so he. He meets Julian on a bus. They talk about the loss of their son and of course he immediately is like you just got over it fast. He's like what the fuck? No, I didn't, I just didn't become a bum like you, Theo Damn.
Speaker 2Which is just like putting him in his place. She's like no, I became the leader of a global uprising, yeah. It's like hey, what have you done? I would at least like to try again.
Speaker 1so let's try to figure out if we can get another kid, but you know, it's like you got any ping pong balls. It's like classic. You know, it's in a bunch of movies where it's like anytime there's a death of a child it's always like, oh, you got over it too fast or something like that.
Speaker 2Yeah, apparently it's bad.
Speaker 1Yeah, I probably won't ever have to do that. It sucks. So he asked her why him? And for like the 500th time already at this point in the movie he's told that she trusts him. That's something that is often said about Theo in this movie.
Speaker 2It's almost like they're trying to tell us well, yeah, he's kind of like this character that is automatically trusted by every person and animal.
Speaker 1Well, so at this point he cannot help but be a good dude. It's only Julian that keeps. It's like you can trust them. I say you can trust them. You can trust them and then like, eventually, like all the people that need to trust him are able to trust, yeah, because he's leading them to the arc and that's what I thought was like really interesting.
Speaker 2He's like he didn't want any of it, but he's just like he cannot help but be like this person that people trust and love and like well also I think he he wants to get back with julian too.
Speaker 1Yeah, he definitely does. There's this point. He asked, like, what happens to them after? After all this and she's like uh, she kisses him, says she doesn't know. So it's like there's obviously they want to be together, they just yeah but the death of the child breaks you. Yeah, so it's like to him after this, like, oh, if I do this, for maybe we can figure this out. Yeah, yeah, and then I put my notes. Don't worry, theo, you won't have to worry about that. It's like like five to 10 minutes.
Speaker 2That won't be a problem anymore for you.
Speaker 1So then we cut to. Theo, julian and Luke get in the car with Key, the refugee woman, and Miriam, an older woman, accompanying her, and head to the coast they're having a good time in the car.
Speaker 2Yeah well, she's the midwife.
Speaker 1I assume, yeah, and I love that. Key gets in there and Theo looks at her and is like, oh so is that her? And she's not paying attention. He's like what the fuck are you looking at? She's listening to her walkman. I guess something I love about key is that she's just a normal person. Yeah, it's like not like this. Oh, I have to, baby, I'm important.
Speaker 2It's just like yes, hey, bro, get away. It's like I got pregnant. Yeah, what up? It's like I don't know.
Speaker 1Everything's wicked, all I know is I trust julian, which she can trust her for the rest of her life, which is in five minutes. It's over, um and then so they're having a good time in the car. You can start seeing the chemistry between theo and julian like they really have a good back and forth. They do the little, yeah, ping pong ball get a bit definitely some sexual tension. So I'm assuming that julian was like. Oh, before I go on to this long, adventure to the coast.
Pregnancy Revelation Sparks Conflict
Speaker 2let me make sure I go buy a ping pong ball real quick. It was really funny. Before she did it she's like I've tried this with hundreds of people, damn slut.
Speaker 1Well, maybe that's like her way of like. She dates somebody and, at the end of the day, before we kiss, can we try something? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2You got to. That's like her way of like she dates somebody and at the end of the day, before we kiss, can we try something?
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, it's just got to do the ping pong test Like you, get three chances If you don't catch it, we can't no fuck yeah, one chance, we can't continue dating.
Speaker 2Sorry, man.
Speaker 1No, but like it's like, even though I knew the scene was coming, I was like, oh, maybe we got like two, three more minutes of this. You know them playing around. I was getting really happy and I was like I know something bad's going to happen, but maybe I got like a few more seconds of it? No, because a giant car comes rolling from the forest blocking their way, and then these groups of people come running down after him.
Speaker 2It was so funny how, like she was sitting there, she's like keep going, just drive faster, you'll make it. Yeah, and he's like what, what?
Speaker 3again. I feel this all the time when I drive with my wife.
Speaker 1She's like trying to get me to be more aggressive and I'm like no, it's not safe, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm a very safe driver and I often hit red lights. Natalie has told me multiple times if you just drove faster you would have hit the red lights.
Speaker 2Yes.
Speaker 1I was like I don't know, this is how I drive.
Speaker 2That's so real.
Speaker 1I've never been in a car accident. Everything about this movie is so real, but yeah. So then all of a sudden, like as they're trying to back up really fast, there's a motorcycle coming after them. There's two people on it. One guy's got a gun. The whole time I was thinking I was like Luke, stop and let them hit you.
Speaker 2They're on a motorcycle.
Speaker 1It's so easy to take them out, but then one of them shoots Julian right in the neck. It fucking sucks. It looks miserable. Damn that sucks. Everybody's freaking out. Theo is able to knock like the guy that would the gun off of the motorcycle, which is great, um, which is he does it twice in the movie.
Speaker 2It was awesome Both times yeah.
Speaker 1And, uh, while driving, they're continuing to drive away and they're able to get away, and it's like this really sad moment where you can almost see the light go out and Julianne Moore's face. She did a really good death scene in this and it's really agonizing for the rest of them in the backseat.
Speaker 2I thought it was funny how Miriam's like put pressure on the wound he's like, but it's in her throat, he's just choking her.
Speaker 1There's not a lot of options here. Either kill her with my hands or the bullet does it for me. And, while escaping, a few cop cars pass by. Then one of them stops, draws their gun on them and they're going to question them, but Luke shoots them both and drives off. Damn, that escalated quickly, so this is probably considered one of the best scenes in film history. Really, yeah.
Speaker 2When he shoots the cops.
Speaker 1Just this whole one shot. Oh yeah, them driving, it is really good. And then in the chaos, and then the officer shot and then it just drives away. So many times on like all my social media is like the scene pops up all the time and people like here's how they did it, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah and stuff like that, and it's just essentially like a stunt driver like and like mechanical cameras and stuff just kind of following. I think like the driver has to kind of control it most of the time actually too, and there's like a rig on top of the car I believe that can kind of spin around. Maybe that's what it is Interesting. And there's like cars, obviously, that they CGI'd out around. Oh really, okay, it's amazing and everybody should watch how they made the if you're interested in just filmmaking at all.
Speaker 2You should watch it. That is really cool.
Speaker 1Honestly any Alfonso Cuaron movies, watch how he makes the movies they're amazing Gravity. It's like the whole movie is like man. It's great. So back to. Luke subsequently takes charge and they leave Julian's body Julian's body to rest in the woods. You have theo.
Speaker 3He brings out his bottle of uh, look like jimmy is it jimmy or jameson, something like that, I don't know some kind of whiskey kind of breaks down next to a tree, then luke's, like everybody, get in the goddamn car we gotta get out of here.
Speaker 2Yeah, it was a cool scene. He's like. He's just like crouched down trying to smoke, can't like. His motor functions aren't working.
Speaker 1He finishes zero cigarettes through the entire movie.
Speaker 1No, he doesn't one thing I noticed in films and tv is how much of the plate of food people eat, how much they drink and their coffee or alcohol. When they go to random bars to meet people and like they come in, I'll have a coffee. Walk out, for the coffee gets to the table. I'm like what the hell guy? Or how much like when they smoke. Well, you don't have to pay for it if you don't drink it. That's true. But cigarettes is like another thing I've noticed in movies where I'm like people will light up, they take these puffs and they throw it on the ground and walk off. I'm like why'd you light it?
Speaker 2It kind of shows that, like they, the interruption of a cigarette or something like that is is very I don't know. It's good. It's showing how what they see is important.
Speaker 1Yeah, but she had to put out a cigarette because it can't be in a car with a pregnant lady?
Speaker 2Yeah, the first, which is why he's never finishing any cigarettes. It was a good on him man.
Speaker 1Yeah. So they then drive to a Fitch's safe house to discuss their next move. Theo wanted to leave, but Luke says that it's too dangerous and says that Leo will be taken care of the next day. It's also where we get the line that the dogs like Theo.
Speaker 2Yeah, they don't like anybody. Classic hero shit. Here you must be the hero, yeah.
Speaker 1Key reveals to Theo that she is pregnant because he goes to the barn to meet her.
Speaker 2So she reveals it in a fun way.
Speaker 1Yeah, he's like whoa, whoa. What are you doing? What are you doing?
Speaker 2Yeah, you think maybe she's just lift up the bottom part. Yeah, no, she's like full topless.
Speaker 1Let's go After she's just talking about cows getting their nipples sliced off to fit in the machines yep, so other than just the you know the obvious, like Jesus reference, do you think there's anything else that it meant by having, like you know, because they're like, attached to like milking machines?
Speaker 2it looked like almost yeah, I mean that's, that's.
Speaker 1I mean, it's a dairy farm yeah, that's what they do, it's like, what do you think the metaphor is for that? Or is it just the the whole religious metaphor? Because before I really started thinking about the religious stuff, I was like this seems like an important scene we're talking about, like cutting off the nipples of cows and stuff, yeah, but then they're attached to milking machines. So it's like like, because, like in.
Speaker 2Throughout history people have sliced off. Like whenever there's a genocide, they slice off women's nipples so they can't breastfeed babies. Ah, so, it's kind of like a hindrance. Yeah, for reproduction. Cool, I'm glad I asked you that question.
Speaker 1Because I almost was like, oh yeah, this is just like a religious symbolism, but I was like I feel like there's more to it.
Speaker 3Let me ask.
Speaker 2Jason, yeah, I'm pretty sure they did it in the Bible. It's awful yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, people kind of been shitty for a long time, yeah, man. So Theo realizes that Key could unlock the future of mankind by providing a cure for infertility. Julian had intended to hand Key to the Human Project supposed scientific group in the Azores dedicated to curing infertility. However, luke persuades Key to stay. Oh yeah, and also like the reason that she told Theo about the baby is because Julian trusted him. We hear that a lot in this movie.
Speaker 1That Theo is very trustworthy Just because of Julian, and everybody like comes in whenever she reveals that she's pregnant and it's like what's going on?
Speaker 2in here.
Speaker 1Why did you do that? It's like, why are you taking her clothes off? No, probably it's not what it looks like. All the cows are naked. Yeah Jeez. We learned that Luke has become the new leader of the fishes and says that it's too dangerous to make it to the coast. Theo thinks she needs proper care and that she should be like, go to the government or something. Be like, hey, let's get this figured out?
Speaker 2Yeah, because I'm. If there's a pandemic that makes people infertile, you would want them to like if they know that there's a baby, they would protect this shit, but they're also right when they say that they would probably like take the baby and give it to someone who is not an immigrant.
Speaker 1Yeah, there's too, there's too much risk involved in like let's take it to someone that we know will try to actually find a cure and not probably just kill her and put her in a camp or something and take the baby and hope that baby gets fertile. Yeah and just use it for political gains? Or just like science experiments, I don't know Like I mean key could end up, but the key should be the one being experiment on.
Speaker 1Yeah, so you probably still shouldn't go there either. Not good, either way, nothing is good. It's like we know anything. Government probably doesn't have you know the person's. Uh, no, never health in mind, you know fuck um, uh, key decides, uh, to stay safe at the house. Um, after she has the baby, she will decide to go to the human project. Um, but first she looks at. So there's kittens. Right, there's two kittens, oh no one of them's grabbing them.
Speaker 1Yeah, and why didn't you pet that something? That maybe this is dumb and it's just because I think how my cat does it like. It's the kind of the time when you realize like, oh, this cat really loves you when he starts trying to climb up your pants and stuff. And then I was like, because right before the cat starts clawing up his pants, he asks it's like what do you think I should do, theo? And I was like, oh, she's attached himself to him just like this little cat did.
Speaker 2It's fucking metaphors baby, he doesn't pet the cat.
Speaker 1one time and I was- think that the scene cut and he's like okay, come here little guy.
Speaker 2He's like scorpion.
Speaker 1Get over here the way it is so that night Theo eavesdrops on a meeting of Luke and Patrick because Patrick was on the motorcycle and he's pissed off because his brother, I guess, or cousin, or whatever, was the one that got knocked off.
Speaker 2Yeah, he got hit by a car door yeah and uh.
Speaker 1So pretty much that guy dies because, like a little later in the movie they're talking about, it's like oh yeah, we need to get him help.
Speaker 2It's like he's not gonna make it, I know, but like yeah, but right before this he was like a theo, was like she needs a doctor, and then they're like, oh'll be fine. And then this guy comes in and is like this dude needs a doctor.
Speaker 1He's like yeah, we'll do that later, Don't worry, he'll be fine.
Speaker 3Don't worry about it.
Speaker 2It's like so you got a doctor somewhere.
Speaker 1But so Theo eavesdrops on the meeting Luke and other members and discovers that Julian's death was orchestrated Damn Luke. So the group could use the baby as political tool to support the coming revolution. Those motherfuckers Damn it. Like that's not going to solve anything. No, it's not. We need kids.
Speaker 2Yeah, but that's like the bargaining chip, right? If they've got a baby they can't touch them.
Speaker 1We have a baby. Everybody should be on our side this baby's gonna be dressed up in all a lot of cute revolution. I should have dropped it. It's like you get to see like if it went their way, the fishies just like have all their pamphlets, are just like a baby holding like an ak-47 like a flag man, hell yeah, like damn that baby's cool.
Speaker 2It's a badass baby got sunglasses on your fucking orange skin.
Speaker 1Damn, what's that baby's name? Bazooka Froli.
Speaker 2Hell yeah, man. What a badass name. It's a leader of the free world, right there, yeah.
Speaker 1That baby's going to grow up?
Speaker 2slay a bunch of people President.
Speaker 1Bazooka and slay a bunch of pussy Ends up being a girl.
Speaker 2But it's a girl.
Speaker 1Yeah, they didn't know that Still can slay, yeah. So Theo goes and wakes Key and Miriam up and they steal a car and he sabotaged the rest of them and it ends up that he's having to push their car that they picked so they can start. This scene is stressful as hell. That was fun. That was fun, dude. Just him trying to to like, just you know, take the keys and then rip the other ones off. I'm like I'm panicking. He's also in no shoes at this point, I know.
Speaker 2That's going to be important later. The moment he stepped out into the puddle with socks, I was like, ooh, this makes me really uncomfortable, you know, I know some importance happening, but I'm going to go get some shoes. I know I felt so. This is the worst I felt through the entire movie. Yeah, when I knew that he had wet socks.
Escape Plan to Tomorrow's Ship
Speaker 1That is the fucking worst, hey, but get ready. We're about to learn the reason why they took his shoes off.
Speaker 3So he couldn't run away and the metaphor for it?
Speaker 1Were they like child kidnappers? No, he just like. He was just like woke up from sleeping or whatever Right, and then got out.
Speaker 2Damn Shoes are important as hell.
Speaker 1Yeah, but I do love this whole scene because then you have like Patrick just fucking booking it after that car down the road. He's so fast, he's like I'm not going to lose, I don't need a motorcycle Because he's pissed off at him. He's like he killed my brother. I got to get this car started. It's like, of course, you picked the wrong car. The one car yeah, the one you probably ripped the cords out of, probably is a perfectly working car.
Speaker 1But it didn't have keys in it. Yeah, so they escape to secluded hideaway of Theo's aging hippie friend, jasper. It was funny when, when he was trying to get away, and miriam's he's like miriam's dude like crank the car. She's like push. Yeah, well, I fucking am he. He pushed it for like just a little bit and she tries to start. He's like wait till we get some moments.
Speaker 3It's just like a bickering couple and like a stressful moment of their lives have you ever had to do this with a vehicle?
Speaker 1no, uh, well, it's kind of fun, not with one of my vehicles, but like, like I was a kid in like one of my dad's trucks. Yeah.
Speaker 2I used to have an old truck, old Nissan truck. I love that thing I just always did that.
Speaker 1You know it's so weird. All old trucks eventually got to the point where it's like we only start going downhill. I love whenever he like walks into Jasper's house he thinks he's dead. Yeah, because there's a bunch of like bottles and it turns out he's putting rat poison inside of bread. It's the quietest.
Speaker 2I love the quietest. It's like the suicide pills that they give out in an apocalypse or whatever, but I love. The packaging was so nice yeah.
Speaker 1It's like ooh, Looked like a box of hymns or something.
Speaker 2Ooh suicide. So good it's like ooh, look like a box of hymns or something. Ooh, suicide, it's so good, it's so fun very smart that he had it, though very smart.
Speaker 1Yeah, I feel like everybody probably got one right yeah maybe they're just like hey guys, everybody that's a citizen of the UK, we're sending you a box.
Speaker 2If you're done, you're done if you hate immigrants enough, you'll take these pills, yeah well, it's just like look, we get it.
Speaker 1Things are about to get real hard here. Everybody's got to free out right here, Hell yeah man.
Speaker 2Well, it came with both suicide pills and SSRIs, you know, like antidepressant medications. So like if you're not feeling quite like doing it yet, you can wait, yeah.
Speaker 1Also, I don't remember if we learned it in the movie because I don't remember hearing it, but I did look up like some like extra facts from the books.
Speaker 2So jasper's wife is named janice, was tortured into catatonia, oh yeah she was tortured by the yeah, because it shows the clips, yeah, or the newspaper clippings yeah I think I missed a little bit of it because I'm like doing my notes too, but I was like what happened to her?
Speaker 1So I looked it up and it's like, oh, yeah, yeah, she was tortured by, like, the MI6. Yeah, or, like you know, yeah, for it's like essentially the CIA.
Speaker 2Because they were probably both activists. Yeah, I'm guessing Poor girl, but hey, at least she had a nice husband, like Jane Goodall with the apes.
Speaker 1She got tortured like hell. She's probably like Jasper's is probably like I don't. I don't know if you can feel the effects of weed, but I'm just going to keep blowing it in her.
Speaker 2She's just like blowing it in her face. She's well, she can chew, though, so went catatonic, like I know, she loves smoking weed man, you know how many bad jokes she's probably just heard hanging out with this guy.
Speaker 1He seems like a bad joke type guy.
Speaker 2I know, I know.
Speaker 1I know. But so Jasper, he meets all of them, Miriam Key, he's like pull my finger.
Speaker 2She's like God, I can't anymore.
Speaker 1She anymore. She just goes catatonic um. But jasper is like super excited that key's pregnant.
Speaker 3He's like, let's fucking go.
Speaker 1You can obviously see them. They're trying to formulate a plan. Um, because you're like, well, we can't get to the coast now because we're being like tracked by the fishes and stuff. And he's like, oh, I have an idea. And I just love how excited jasper is and michael kane's so good in this movie. I love, love Michael Caine, because the plan is they're going to board the human project ship, the Tomorrow, which will arrive on shore offshore from the Bexhill Refuge Camp, and Jasper proposes getting camp guard Sid, played by Peter Mullen. You may know him from either the movie Session 9 or Trainspotting Interesting, yeah, that's where you gotta start, really. And Sid's gonna smuggle them in, as he's had dealings with him in the past, as in gave him some of that dank-ass weed that strawberry cough.
Speaker 1From there they can take a rowboat and rendezvous with the tomorrow. So we also get a little bit, so something that in this movie he goes he's trying on all his shoes. Yeah, what does he get? Sandals, flip flops, flip flops, hmm. I wonder when they what era in American in world history? People wore flip flops a lot.
Speaker 2I bet Noah would have, oh man.
Speaker 1Are you saying?
Speaker 3It's religious allegories. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1I mean I just like it's got to be.
Speaker 2He doesn't really have them for that long. Well, he has them all the way up until after the birth you pick the worst shoe to fit in.
Speaker 1yeah, yeah, it's the worst, um, because then he's like he goes out and oh, and then, after they got their plan, but I feel like this I'm gonna die the same way jasper does.
Speaker 2Yeah, just telling a bad dad joke. Yeah, it's gonna be so bad that someone's just gonna say, fuck it, you're dead now yeah, um and so, and then you got, uh, key and theo.
Speaker 1They're starting to kind of get along, uh, and this is kind of where I was like oh, he's just like a regular girl, she's just like living in this life, and all of a sudden he's like fuck, I have so much responsibility now, yeah, because she's got to only be like 18 19 years old and this is where we learn that she's gonna name her kid froli and theo's like what all right? First kid ever, and its name's gonna be at least it's not like bladen.
Speaker 2Yeah, some bullshit.
Speaker 1Blue ivory fucking nevaeh all right, so what's like a name you've always want to name a kid? Uh, well, madeline, my first is like growing up I always loved that the name is there like a name that you wanted to do, but your wife was like no, jason not really.
Speaker 2I mean you when you miss prime, yeah, when you, when you're going through names. It's really tough because, because you go through those names off the bat, yeah, and both of you are like no.
Speaker 1Yeah, that sucks ass. I've always wanted to name a kid Arizona. That's a cool name. And we call him Ari for short. Yeah, because A-R-I that's a cool last name it's because I love the song. I love the movie Raising Arizona. I love the song. I love the movie Raising Arizona. Yeah, and the song from Kings of Leon, arizona, hell, yeah. And I was like, even when I was like in college I was like, yeah, that's what I'd name a kid.
Speaker 2Yeah, like my son. We named him Sawyer because I always loved the name Sawyer. Yeah, like growing up, it's great Like Tom Sawyer. Yeah.
Speaker 1One of the best characters in Lost and then lost. Yeah, the lost guy. Just hope he doesn't turn out to be like him from Lost. That'd be the worst possible outcome. So, jasper and Miriam, they get high hell. Yeah, we're talking about UFOs. At some point gets brought up yeah, do you really see UFOs? See that's like another like pretty funny part, but it's like happened and they're safe and they're not.
Speaker 1So it's like oh, they can kind of let off some steam they're eating and stuff. They kind of high talk about faith and chance. Jester talks about Theo, julian and Dylan. Julian and Theo met among a million protesters in a rally by chance, but they were there because of what they believed in the first place their faith. They wanted to change the world and their faith kept them together. But by chance, dylan was born and died yeah, from faith.
Speaker 2Yeah, chance killed him.
Speaker 1This kind of whole thing. I put down the quote, even though I pretty much said much. Let's see what is it.
Speaker 2Well, yeah, he was killed by chance because of the flu.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2COVID-19.
Speaker 1His line is like chance. He, he was their sweet little dream. He had little hands, little legs, little feet, little lungs, and in 2008, along came the flu pandemic. And then, by chance, he was gone. See, theo's faith lost out to chance. So so why bother if life is going to make its own choices? Baby's got Theo's eyes, damn. That's why, whenever he said baby's got Theo's eyes and you just see.
Speaker 1Clive Owen. He's just like. You can just see the pain on his face. It's like I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I'm going to cry.
Speaker 2Yeah, like when Key said that, I was like oh, I guess, if you know you're about to die and then, like Miriam, says, oh boy, that's terrible.
Speaker 1But you know, everything happens for a reason, jasper, that I don't know, or he says that I don't know, but Theo and Julian would always bring Dylan he loved it here.
Speaker 2Yeah, their house is great. I would go there all the time.
Speaker 1Jasper, I bet he's got Mario Kart he fucking, he had a Nintendo 64 in there playing like the GoldenEye game. Yeah, it's like Jasper's like you wouldn't believe this, but the actor that's playing your father would be almost cast as James Bond at one point but anyways, theo wakes up, wait, michael.
Speaker 1Caine was almost cast. No people. One of the before Daniel Craig got cast, clive Owen was in the running, oh gotcha, and it was kind of like between him and those two actors and one other person. He'd have been a great James Bond, I think. I was actually kind of rooting for him. I didn't know who Daniel Craig was at that point because I was young, so Theo wakes up to the insane alarms that Jasper has ripped up.
Speaker 2Yeah, I love the whenever he's like he was there before and they were smoking weed and he's like, oh, your head's hurting. Yeah, you wouldn't mind a little light zen music and it's like that fucking crazy shit.
Speaker 1It's like some wild, it's like something that, what's it? Yoko Ono?
Speaker 2Yes, oh man Awful.
Speaker 1Which, hey, you never guess who. Michael Caine based his character off of John Lennon. Oh yeah, I could get. Yeah, that makes sense. So the fishes trail the group and Jasper stays behind to stall them giving the government-issued suicide drug Quietus to his catatonic wife. It's fucking sad. The song Ruby Tuesday's playing, yeah.
Speaker 2It makes it even sadder, yeah I was like damn.
Speaker 1I immediately went and like, liked the song on spotify to make sure it pops up at some point in my life um a horrified theo witnesses. The fishes kill him before escaping with miriam and key. They didn't like his pull my finger oh, but they didn't of course they're trying to if they just would have pulled his finger.
Speaker 2Yeah, he might have told and then shot him like make the man happy.
Speaker 1It really sucked like. So originally he's supposed to die, I think in the book he dies by, like being attacked by their dogs. Oh yeah, so worse, which is worse than what happens in him, which is also really sucks. When they shot him again, I was like just kill him. I know because they shot him in the leg and the hand and they're finally like oh, this guy just wants to spread his fingers.
Speaker 2They're just bad at aiming or trying to get him to say where they went.
Speaker 3They're just torturing him.
Speaker 2But then they just kill him without getting any answers, Like what was the point? I don't know.
Speaker 1They're inexperienced at torture. All of what's happening is pointless. People are being dumb, so we cut to them, stopped out of school, where Miriam tells her story. She was a midwife who slowly noticed how everyone was losing their babies. She says she was there at the end.
Speaker 2Theo tells her now she can be there at the beginning.
Speaker 1Finally she won't, yeah, she doesn't make it. But yeah, I just loved when she said it's like because they had like a book of like you know how long the pregnancies went and stuff. And he said once we got to like month seven, there was never any names and I was like give me chills, damn. I was like man, I don't know this movie, just it fucking got me into it yeah it's really good at that.
Speaker 1It's got every aspect of what makes a movie good. It's insane the existential dread, yeah. So he's really good at that. It's got every aspect of what makes a movie good. It's insane, the existential dread, yeah. So later they meet Sid, who seems scary and talks in third person.
Speaker 2Yeah, I like Sid a lot Because it's like you're a fascist Before Jasper dies.
Speaker 1he's like make sure you tell him he's a fascist pig. And then he pretends, say it again, yeah, and he like Sid, pretends that he's pissed off about it and is about to hit him ah, funny joke.
Speaker 2Yeah, I was just so mad at him yeah, I'm like god damn it, sid.
Escape From Refugee Camp
Speaker 1God damn it, sid. I hope I get to kill you later. Um, and yeah, so Sid transports. He talks in third person. It's crazy. I know it's great. Um, he transports them to a bus that will transport them to Beck's Hill. It's like all right, guys, it's time to get out. And at this point she's having contractions. He is yeah, and he's like what's wrong with her? He's like, oh, she's just sick, sick, don't vomit, it's bad.
Speaker 2Can't get the smell out. Yeah, but I do like, like, what is their plan, their plan, into this refugee camp in order to get to a place that the human project picks people up.
Speaker 1Yeah, so the human project is picking people up, I guess out in the water Right outside of Warthogs. Hill and it's like, and there's no way to contact them. Something we learned soon is that so they can't contact them and they have no idea if they're even going to show up. This guy you know.
Speaker 2Hope, faith not chance it's hope and faith.
Speaker 1So yeah, I guess that's the point. This is where they meet. So I guess it's where if refugees want to try to get off the, out of the place, I don't know, hopefully 100%. I don't understand. Maybe the book goes a little bit more.
Speaker 2I do love Marika. Marika, she's great, she's great Romani woman, she a homie little annoying ass dog.
Speaker 1Yeah, but something funny that Sid does is like all right, everybody put on your Fuji face sad.
Speaker 3Fuji face.
Speaker 2I know Sid's a great character.
Speaker 1Yeah, sucks at the end yeah, I really, I really was. I was rooting for him, really wanted to be a good guy. I know Sid's a great character. Yeah, sucks at the end. Yeah, I really was I was rooting for him.
Speaker 1Really wanted him to be a good guy, I know. So as they enter Beck's Hill, key water breaks and begins having contractions on a bus. Suddenly, a guard enters the bus to select people for execution. When he notices Key hurting, miriam obstructs the guard and is taken away. Theo fools him into thinking Key just soiled herself, after which the guard leaves her alone.
Speaker 2He's like I was going to kill her, but not if she smells a pee. Yeah, I do like how Theo pretended to be a refugee. Yeah, because if they would have noticed that he was speaking British normally they would have thought something was up, I guess, yeah.
Speaker 1Also whenever they're coming in. Being on the bus is where you get like the, where people are essentially being in cages and tortured, essentially, yeah, that fucking sucks, which was something that was happening like during the Iraq War, and that's where he got the idea.
Speaker 2Oh damn, I would have hated to be one of those dudes.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2In charge of the prisoners. Yeah Well, they the prisoners.
Speaker 1Yeah Well, they seem to enjoy it. That's awful.
Speaker 2They seem to be really into it. They seem to love being horrible yeah.
Speaker 1I think that's kind of what war does.
Speaker 2Yep, it makes you bad yeah.
Speaker 1So then, we're along with them. They're being pushed off the bus and they're being put into the camp like cattle.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Essentially.
Speaker 2Like all through those cages?
Speaker 1Yeah, the maze and the camps. They seem to have no rules in these camps and they just kind of roam and do whatever they want.
Speaker 2So once you go through the little gate, yeah, it's on your own, you're in your own world now. But it was interesting whenever they first walked in and everyone's I mean, I imagine this is what happens when you get to prison as a new prisoner for like your first time, because they they're like hey, you need food, you need a place to stay. Yeah, try to immediately get you in there.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, oh, it's like you have no idea where they're going to be taking you. No, yeah.
Speaker 2They're going to you. No, yeah, they're gonna do stuff to you, yeah, so at the camp, theo and key meet marocca.
Speaker 1What's her name? Marika, marika, marika, yeah, marika well, I'm gonna call her that who provides a room where key gives birth to a girl with the help of theo? Um, yeah, it's, it's kind of like a kind of a nice scene. Honestly, it's like it's really stressful and but he like knew what he. Honestly, it's like it's really stressful.
Speaker 2But he like knew what he was doing. So it's like you felt kind of calm, you just kind of catch right, yeah, yeah. I mean she has to do everything.
Speaker 1And then, like the little baby pops out, it's a little CGI baby. That looks actually pretty decent for a CGI baby. I feel like I know it. I bet it was cold.
Speaker 2Theo Key, see, it wasn't that bad she's like not for you, Not for you, you bitch.
Speaker 1That's great, but it's like a really happy moment. She finally had her kid and it was relatively. It was uninterrupted. She got there and it was all fine.
Speaker 2Just for one night though. She had a really easy time giving birth.
Speaker 1Yeah, that thing just popped right on out.
Speaker 2Yep, she's young, I guess and like it was kind of funny to me when they were the sheep her water breaks on the bus and then like they're like, oh no, the baby's coming. But like really what happens? It's like your water breaks and then you've got like 12 or 14 hours of intense, like pain before any kind of baby comes out or anything.
Speaker 1Yay, fun Sounds.
Speaker 2Birth is not quick.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's something that was definitely a line in movies growing up Because that's the signal for birth.
Speaker 2Right, the water breaking and then like, oh, no, baby's coming out in like two seconds. It's a lot of anguish before that birth. Right, the water breaking and then like, oh no, baby's coming out in like two seconds, Nope, it's a lot of anguish before that, yeah, a lot of ice chips.
Speaker 1So the next day Sid comes in. He informs Theo and Key that a war between the army and the refugees, including the fishes, has begun.
Speaker 2And they just slept through it. Yeah, I mean they're exhausted, I mean they haven't they've kind of been through a lot.
Speaker 2Yeah, Um, uh but he then notices the baby. Oh, sid, I love it when Sid sees the baby. Yeah, he's like, oh no, but it was just so funny to see, like as a like a man, seeing like a baby for the first life, especially with me, whenever my babies were born and the first time they come out, like my first one, they hand it to you and you're like, oh fuck, yeah, what don't give me this, what do I do with this? What do I do? What do I Take it back?
Speaker 1Yeah, but so Riga is just like hey, don't go with him, don't go with him, bad guy, don't go. He then reveals that Theo and Key have a bounty on their heads and attempts to capture them.
Speaker 2Theo subdues Sid. With help from Marika, she beats the fuck out of him with like a table leg.
Speaker 1Yeah, I love this lady and like they're kind of running out and there's a door that's kind of jammed, like they're slowly all getting out, key hands the baby to Marika, and it's like she's taking my baby.
Speaker 2Yeah, you think she's going to run off, but then she immediately comes in because it turns out this lady is a saint.
Speaker 1I love her. And then, like, he's trying to get out and Sid's got back up and he's got his gun. It's very stressful, yeah. And then they get out, and then Sid comes through the door Fuck yeah, man Just whacks the shit out of him like a giant piece of concrete, yeah, just like a piece of rubble. Just blasts his face Great, and now our hero is shoeless again as well, because he stepped on some glass.
Speaker 2That sucks, yeah. So they walk through the street where Immediately like he steps on a Lego. Yeah.
Speaker 1It's like there's no kids. Why do we? Even have Legos. Yeah, what the fuck. Yeah. So they walk through the street where a rally is happening. I see that there's multiple countries, it's not just one. It looked like an Islam one. Yeah, it looked like a. Then we saw some French flags, sure, and then the group briefly takes shelter with Marika's friends. It just seemed like some old guy, an old woman that they knew.
Speaker 2Yeah, I wonder if it was like her parents or something. Ooh, maybe Could be. Yeah, maybe be yeah, maybe because yeah, but they like they're loving this baby, yeah, key it's like they love my baby.
Speaker 1It's like, yeah, dude, they haven't seen one in 20 years um key says she's going to name it her baby bazooka.
Speaker 2Yeah, he's like I just got used to frolic.
Speaker 1It's like that's a. That's not a girl's name. I don't know what that name is I'm gonna Axe.
Speaker 1That sounds more like a name for a frog, froli or like some sort of fro-yo, oh tasty Flavor. But then a man comes in and says they have a boat for them, but they'll have to wait an hour. Theo then notices men on the rooftops Heading for the rowboat. This is when, like, the score kicks in and it sounds like a horror movie. Yeah, they see the battles in the streets. They are ambushed by the fishies Sounds ridiculous. Who capture Key and the baby? Luke orders his man mainly Patrick because he's ready to kill yeah, to kill Lithio. But Patrick really only gets one shot off and kills the guy that comes in. Fuck, luke, man, fuck you Luke.
Speaker 1I thought you were cool.
Speaker 2I know, and then you were not cool, and then you're really not cool. In this moment we're like wait till we get around the corner. Don't let the, don't let the woman see. You murder all these people. Yeah, so he's like oh well, because it's like he bit that we didn't just kill him, man, because he's got to have key, trust her so that they can be a part of the group, I know, but it's so, fuck you man.
Speaker 1Yeah, shit, and it's just, I don't know it. Uh, that actor um, I'm not gonna say his name because I'm gonna butcher it. He's like such a good actor and he plays this type of character very good. It's almost like he's in a bunch of movies and he plays like almost this very similar villain.
Speaker 2Yeah, because you don't think he's in a bunch of movies and he plays like almost this.
Speaker 1He's a great villain yeah, because you don't think he's going to be and you feel like you can trust him, but you can't ever. Yeah, he's also in um love. Actually, where, what is he? He's the um. You know the worst part of that movie where you got the guy from walking dead and kira knightley. It's the whole like hold the sign up, pretend that there's a choir out here. It's a sign. Hey, I've always loved you, whatever. Well, he's her husband damn.
Speaker 2Okay, I know, like Serenity, he's like this type of character who, like you, kind of like him, but he's so evil.
Speaker 1He's great at playing that. So Patrick goes to murder Marika and Theo, but the British troops attack Theo, attracts the fishes to an apartment. He's essentially just following Patrick to where they're going, because there's like tanks everywhere, it's just absolute chaos. It's fucking amazing.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's a cool ass scene when he's trying to get through the street through all the fire.
Warfare and Morality in Society
Speaker 1I mean this has got to be like the best scene to depict the terror of what it's like during street level war and being a refugee during wartime right.
Speaker 2Yeah, because they're just shooting blindly into these buildings full of innocent people.
Speaker 1People just living man. You already put them in camps. Leave them alone.
Speaker 2But like even the, the uprising people, they're not great either, because they're just they're killing civilians too.
Speaker 1Everybody sucks, and everybody that's in the middle of it is just like I don't know. They're just fodder. Yeah, fodder, because we're all. We all care so much that we don't care who. We kill God Like wild. I don't know, it's annoying.
Speaker 2World sucks. Everything's hard and everything sucks yeah.
Speaker 1Amen. But yeah, this whole scene's great. They're going through the bus and they're like being shot. I had the tanks rolling up the giant building being shot where Key is and it's like, oh no, did she die? And it's all from like following. It's like a third person video game from this where you're falling right behind Clive Owen, fuck yeah they slayed this guy.
Speaker 1If you're just listening to this because you like the movie you haven't seen in a while, just rewatch it, just feel everything. So, theo, he's able to make it all the way up into that building that was getting exploded.
Speaker 2And it's just constantly having gunfire shot at it, trying to get away from that one guy. Yeah, Patrick Dreadlock guy.
Speaker 1Yeah, guy won't give up. But then he just, you know, like Theo didn't even get to shoot him, he just dies in the middle of the war. And it's just like that's what happens. Hell yeah dude Not everything's like this heroic big battle moment. That's, I think, what I like about how it's like hey, here's how random this stuff is. You just die. No one gets to kill each other because some random Joe Blow is just going to kill them.
Speaker 2I love the scene between Luke and Theo.
Speaker 1Yes, right, luke and Theo are here when he rescues. Key. Yeah, theo confronts Luke, who eventually gets killed in an explosion. But you have Luke. Julian was wrong. She thought it could be peaceful, but how can it be?
Speaker 2peaceful when they try to take away your dignity, yeah, but he's also taking away her dignity, yeah, and he's holding him hostage. Basically, he's getting shot, shot at firing back and then like, whenever they try to leave, he's like no, we need that baby. Yeah, we need that baby?
Speaker 1no, I mean, I guess he's just like it, couldn't it? So, from his point of view, like the way that he thought Julian was going to do it, oh, we're going to take him to the human people.
Speaker 2And things are going to change.
Speaker 1Yeah, things are going to change, but from his viewpoint it's like that's not how this works. Right, that's not. We need violence this isn't going to work that way. We have to start a revolution. Yeah, and like, from his perspective, they took away our dignity. We can't just let them like, things can't just go back to normal. We have to overtake them and we have to do it better. I think that's what his perspective is in all this.
Speaker 2Sure, yeah, he totally just did not think about, like theo's suggestion of just make it public. Yeah, tell people that we have a baby like give people everything well, yeah, give people hope everything. Maybe we'll all just start working together now. And he's like fuck no we need bullets.
Speaker 1I guess from like Luke's perspective on that, it's like okay, so we give the baby to the government.
Speaker 2That's what he's afraid of.
Speaker 1And then only wealthy people are able to make babies. Oh yeah, and then?
Speaker 3all these refugees and then, it's just the handmaid's tale. Yeah.
Speaker 1Ah, and it's just the handmaid's tale. Yeah, ah, so, but I think Julian's answer was right. Hey, let's find the cure, cure people, and the government's like shit, people can have babies again. Well, I guess we got to fall in line. Yeah, we'll apologize later. Yeah, I guess. So I don't know, it's a tricky. It's tricky.
Speaker 2That's what makes it such a good story, yeah, and like it's the same thing with the Last of Us, Like the uprising was trying to cure everything, but the only way to cure it was to kill the girl that was immune.
Speaker 1And then it's like we don't want her to die. Yeah, we love her. Yeah, she's great. What are we? Why are we going to do this? But then it's I know, I know this is a hard decision. Great show okay, even better video game, so um. So Theo, he was able to get to Key, takes her away. Um, there's like a big explosion. That's how Luke dies. They get up, she says yes, um asks about the baby. How is she Key annoying?
Speaker 2she's annoyed. Yeah, at all the gunfire, probably. Well, I think he.
Speaker 1I think she was calling the baby annoying because this isn't crying.
Speaker 2No, she just said annoyed, like the baby is annoyed. I thought she said the baby was annoying and I was like welcome to welcome to parenthood yeah, she's always crying.
Speaker 1And then Theo escorts Kiki and the baby out. All the refugees are like they're hearing the baby crying and everybody's like coming out of nowhere. They're all like trying to touch its foot.
Speaker 2Like all bullets, like stop, like everyone stops fighting. Yeah, and like for a second.
Speaker 1When he goes down like he's going downstairs and the fishes come up and they draw their weapons on him, he's like, oh, and they just continue running up and then the army comes up to me and he's like, they're like what the?
Speaker 2holy shit yeah.
Speaker 1And they all stopped fighting and allowed the trio to leave. I thought I was like when I first watched it. I was like they going to grab that baby, but are you kidding me? No soldier wants to have a baby in their arms, that's true, be a hell of a picture though so then, marika leads them to the boat, but stays behind as they depart, and I love that. They're so grateful for her. They're like come on, get on the boat, get on the boat.
Speaker 2I wish you would have kinda.
Speaker 1Yeah, because we're about to see what happens as British fighter jets conduct airstrikes on Beck's Hill, killing pretty much everybody.
Speaker 3I can only assume.
Speaker 1Theo and Key row to the rendezvous point in heavy fog. I love when they stop. He's like what a day. Theo reveals that he was shot and wounded by Luke earlier. He teaches Key how to burp her baby. I'm like crying at this point.
Speaker 2But he calls it wind it. He's like you got to wind it. Yeah, it's probably some British shit. Yeah, it's some British nomenclature, I'm sure I'm sure that's what they say.
Speaker 1Cut it on the back? Yeah, it's because they just fed their kid beans and bread. It's a bit windy of a baby, isn't it Full of wind? De-wind it stop feeding the beans. Yeah, it's a baby. And the part where I completely lose my shit cause she tells him she will name the baby girl.
Speaker 1Dylan after his son and you can see that he's like slowly starting to die and it's just like, oh, it's like aw. And then Theo smiles, then loses consciousness as the tomorrow approaches, as the screen cuts to black, with children's laughter being heard, saying that it all worked out, yay, yay, children live or something I'm just like trying to figure it out. I'm like really sad Because I'm just like I don't remember this movie being so beautiful and affecting to me when I was little.
Speaker 2Yeah, and it like, and she's the whole time she's dressed like mary. Right, yeah, the jesus mary is she, because she's, she's just in the like, almost like a blanket. Yeah, that's what I'm saying like it's a robe type thing and she's kind of like, and then people are like looking at her and like dropping through their knees and doing the whole like crossing their chest and stuff. Yeah, like a super religious moment, yeah, which is weird, but like I love when they put like they do the stuff without movies.
Speaker 1I know it's like I don't know, because you know whether you don't believe in it or not. I mean, the stories were kind of rad.
Speaker 2Yeah, it still represents like the hope of humanity.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Which was cool.
Speaker 1Yeah, and it's great. I just love it's like a movie about chaos in the streets. Yeah, man Into the world. But it's essentially like it's all about these few people that came together and, with the help and kindness of some other people, they're able to save the world. We should just do that. Every leader should just be like nice and stuff and good people. No like no.
Speaker 3Like if everybody was just nice to each other.
Speaker 1I think this is all worked out and wouldn't been nearly as stressful, but how do you get all the money, then if you help people, you can have all the money that's true. That's the only thing. I need to be a shitty person.
Speaker 2I need to exploit somebody at some point, hell yeah man, yeah, we can do it, yeah, we can do it, but that we can do it, but that's children, man.
Speaker 1So we're going to dive into one of our categories the good, the bad, the ugly, the fine. So we're going to discuss the good of the film something we liked the bad, something we didn't. The ugly something didn't age well. And the fine something that did age well. I feel like when it comes to these categories in this movie, it's going to be pretty easy the good, everything. The bad nothing really I feel like the fun part's actually just going to be kind of the ugly.
Speaker 2Yeah, but like so for my good, I just I loved the all the. They had a lot of unique characters Jasper and Sid, miriam, yeah, miriam, even the bad guy, Patrick, yeah, patrick, like Patrick. He Luke, right, or you're talking about the dready?
Speaker 1yeah, the dred guy dready.
Speaker 2Yeah, and Luke's a great character and Luke's great too, because what I like about Luke is like he's kind of like righteous yeah, he really believes, but it he's wrong. Yeah, which is awful. Well, it he really believes, but he's wrong yeah.
Speaker 1Which is awful. Well, it's kind of the classics, Like oh no, it's like you're wanting to start a revolution but you're not doing it the right way. But really, has the government given you the other way to do it other than this? And Julian, which is probably like the best, the nicest and best person in the movie, is like we can do it my way and I'm going to be right, Cause I'm Julianne Moore, Cause, even though she's barely in the movie, I mean like her death sucked.
Speaker 2Her death did suck.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2But like with when you see, like leaders of uprisings and movies like this, there's always something really fucked up about them and I believe but Julianne, she, there's always something really fucked up about them and I believe but Julianne she there was a little bit of that at first kind of have the fear that she's going to be really corrupt.
Speaker 1Yeah, cause how we met her.
Speaker 2Yeah, exactly, and but then, like she turns out to be kind of awesome and that's why she has to die. Yeah, so Luke could take over and be the asshole. So Luke could take over and be the asshole.
Speaker 1Because whenever they capture Luke, to like bring him to the fishes, like, I think, just as much as putting the blind, like blindfolding them is not just like, so they don't see them, so the government didn't see who they took. Yeah, because then it'd be like, well, shit, now you're going to be a target from them. It's like, hey, it's not a bad thing that you're blindfolded, even though it came off as like a terrible thing. I don't. It's like, hey, it's not a bad thing that you're blindfolded, even though it came off as like a terrible thing.
Speaker 2Yeah, I don't know. They're trying to scare him, they're trying to intimidate him. Yeah.
Speaker 1My good, other than just everything. I'm going to just like. The cinematography in this movie and how it's shot is maybe like one of the best things I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, there were some really incredible shots. It's like everything was amazing, amazing looking, yeah.
Speaker 1I really liked like all the dystopian stuff and even like the fog at the end when they're in the boat and the jets are coming in and you just see the bombs exploding just in the fog, the skyscraper, yeah, or the skyline of the area that got hit, and it's just like flashing and it's like scary hell. But it was such a cool but, in like, with that that being very scary, like a minute or two later the same area is beautiful, just for like if you have the city in the back of the camera, not facing the city but facing forward to where the ship comes out, oh yeah, and then you got like just kind of a great shot of one guy dead on the boat, the girl and her baby, the buoy and the ship slowly coming in.
Speaker 2It's like of course this looks amazing, it was fantastic.
Speaker 1It's just weird how like, how much horror was in like one shot and them in the same exact place. There's like hope, oh yeah right, it's beautiful, the buoy. You get the light blinking that was cool and it didn't look like shit. Marijuana movies didn't look like shit all the time isn't that crazy. Oh, that's wild. What did we do um the bad? For me, nothing. I mean like in terms of like hey, they shouldn't have done this in this movie. I don't really see anything.
Speaker 2The bad is like that this is all happening, kind of.
Speaker 1That's the other way that was the ugly for me.
Speaker 2I was like um well, this is an easy ugly.
Speaker 1This is not aging well because it's happening. Yeah, it's like a lot of things have happened. We've had multiple big flus and it seems like everybody's kind of torn in.
Speaker 2Are we going to a police station Like oh man?
Speaker 1so scary. Yeah, I'm just going to stay home and just watch TV during it.
Speaker 2Yeah, just don't think about it like his brother. Yeah, it'd be a lot easier not to think about if, uh, I was rich. Yeah, it's a lot easier. I feel like money makes things a lot easier.
Speaker 1Yeah, sometimes, yeah, so that's. That's definitely my ugly. How scary this movie is, yes, how possible it might be scary.
Speaker 2Oh, I've couldn't watch it all the way. First she's like this is getting too real.
Speaker 1Yeah yeah, uh, has she never seen it?
Speaker 2no, she had okay, but like it was a long time ago, I was just like, force her to watch the second half then she needs to see how good this is.
Speaker 1We all see the writing on the wall. Yeah, so do you got anything else for your ugly? Uh?
Speaker 2no, not really. Um, mainly the the crisis we feel every day.
Speaker 1Yeah, just living L-I-V-I-N, that's how Matthew McConaughey said A lot cooler if you did so. What aged well for you? Dystopia.
Speaker 2Yeah, you know Movies, dystopian movies, yeah, the whole police state, martial law kind of stuff. It's so fucked up and crazy. It just really makes you think and it's cool to see something we should learn from.
Speaker 1We have so much art about this stuff, but yet we just don't listen to it because you never think it's going to happen, like the frog in the boiling water don't talk about frogs. The frog in the boiling water yeah, don't talk about frogs. Okay, the crab in the boiling water, you're just eating while the water's getting hot.
Speaker 2You don't even know you're going to boil it alive.
Speaker 1Ugh. Well, my find was, you know what Never give up hope, guys. That's true. That's what I took from this movie and that's why H Will can never give up, or just don't pay attention.
Speaker 2Never surrender. Do not go quietly into the night. Yes, all right, we're going to hit our next category, which is double feature.
Speaker 1This is where we pick a movie that goes alongside this movie and would make a hell of a double feature. What do you got?
Speaker 2Well, it's not a movie, but it's a series. The Last of Us from the video game.
Speaker 1We brought it up multiple times. Yes, bet you didn't see that one coming.
Speaker 2If you haven't seen it, please watch it, it's so fun. Or if you haven't played it, yeah, the game is even better, play it. The game is much better than the show. It's even more fun.
Speaker 1It is really Because when you watch the beginning of season one, of the Last of Us, and you're like, oh, I love all the mushroom-headed zombies. And then, in the second half of the season, you're like where'd they go? Well, that was because they cared more about the characters. But if you want to see more of them, play the video game.
Speaker 2Yeah, I think the opening of the video game is one of the most traumatic. Yeah, I think the opening of the video game is one of the most traumatic, interesting things ever. Hey, bro, get ready for season fucking two.
Speaker 1I guarantee you that first season, that first episode, will have you crying. And for people online who did not like the second game, well, I don't know what to tell you guys. I have a heart. I have a heart.
Speaker 2Do you?
Speaker 1even know what happens in the second season. Don't say it out loud. Or don't say if you do, the season or the game, or the game.
Speaker 2I mean, I've played part of it.
Speaker 1I haven't finished it. Oh, so then you probably got to the point where everybody kind of freaked out. Just don't worry about it, we'll talk about it later. I decided to pick the movie Snowpiercer.
Speaker 2Ooh yeah, hell yeah, Fucking love that movie In a future where it failed. The show is good too.
Speaker 1Oh, I haven't seen the show. I do love the movie. It's Bong Joon-ho who did Parasite, yeah.
Speaker 2But this was before Parasite.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, yeah Like.
Speaker 2It's a bad there's not 10 years. It's really interesting how they they cultivate insects for food. Yeah, like we're getting there.
Speaker 1Yeah, and it's essentially in a future where failed climate change experiment has killed all life, except for the survivors who boarded the Snowpiercer, a train that travels around the globe, the people who took Marjorie Taylor Greene's advice yeah, seated all the clouds. Yeah, but essentially they're. They're on a train and it's like a class system, like the poor people are at the back and the further you go up, the wealthier you get. You can kind of see how it reflects.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's fucking cool.
Speaker 1It's more of a Child sacrifices. It's also more it's not as heart-wrenching as Children of Men is.
Speaker 2It is a fun-ass movie though.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's very fun. It's got great action and it's by another one of our great directors. Yeah, check those out. It's got Chris Evans in it, if I need to say more, and Tilda Swinton, who Well, I mean, need I say more, even more?
Speaker 2Ed Harris.
Speaker 1Need I even say more?
Speaker 2Stop saying things, john Hurt.
Speaker 1Should I say Stop saying things, John Hurt. Should I continue?
Speaker 2Quit it.
Speaker 1All right, but that is our episode on Children of Men. We're going to switch things up because we did. No Country for Old Men, damn bummer. Children of Men, a damn bummer, but two maybe of the greatest movies ever made?
Speaker 2I don't know.
Speaker 1So we're going to go a completely't know. So we're gonna go completely different area where we're gonna get pumped the fuck up, baby, because we're doing Rocky 2 and nothing gets me more pumped up than watching a Rocky movie. If you haven't seen it, you're a crazy person, jason. You haven't seen it, have you?
Speaker 1he's a crazy person but not much longer. Yeah, watch Rocky 2. It rolls, it rips, it dips, it pips, dips dodge, dodge, so make sure to join us for that. Also, leave us some reviews, y'all. We're getting more followers, it's so much fun.
Speaker 1Every week. It's almost like we're starting to get like one follower, and then the next week we might get another follower. Tell your friends, right, because, who knows, maybe the apocalypse is coming, so at least make us feel good for it, right? But say nice things about us, please, and if you don't have anything nice to say, still just give us five stars. Yay, yeah.
Speaker 1Because you're a monster, though it'd be weird If you listened to this Entire episode and was like I hate this, it's like a figure you might cut it off Like halfway through, right, and I could see this Actually episode Getting a lot of Negative reviews Just based on.
Speaker 2Nah.
Speaker 1I feel like we spilled A little bit of political beans On our toast.
Speaker 2Damn. Sounds so yummy.
Speaker 1Oh, I feel so good about my beans and toast reference again, um, uh. Also, if you want to send us some fan mail, if you want to tell us what you think about the movie, and I don't know, just your life, I don't know to say hey, what up? Yeah, in the description, at the top there's a link you can just text us from your phone, or at the bottom there's our email. We recommend, at mail mailbag at gmailcom, mess that up, um, so, so contact us through there. I'd like to thank Joey Prosser for our intro and outro music. You can follow him on X at Mr Joey Prosser, and this has been the God dang we Recommend podcast.
Speaker 1I've been Jesse. I've been Jason. Hey, dogs don't usually like me. I don't know.
Speaker 2Have some babies, bye.
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