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The Host (2006)
Director Bong Joon-ho masterfully blends genres, creating a film that functions simultaneously as a monster thriller, dark comedy, and heartrending family drama. Unlike traditional monster movies that hide their creature until the third act, Bong proudly displays his multi-limbed amphibious creation early, allowing viewers to focus on the human story. The film's striking visuals—from the monster swinging from bridges to the family's desperate search through Seoul's underbelly—complement its emotional core about ordinary people rising to extraordinary challenges.
Beyond its thrills, "The Host" offers biting commentary on environmental negligence, government incompetence, and media manipulation. The creature itself becomes a metaphor for the consequences of unchecked pollution and international interference, while the virus panic demonstrates how easily authorities manufacture threats to control populations. Don't miss this landmark film that launched Bong Joon-ho's international reputation years before his Oscar-winning "Parasite" took the world by storm.
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Hello and welcome to the we Recommend podcast, a movie podcast, where every week, we recommend a movie for you to watch and then come back here and listen to us discuss. I'm Jesse. I'm Nathan. What do you want to eat? A beer, a cold beer, because this week we recommend the Host. The host. Yeah, I just want to up front Sorry for my super sexy, raspy, deep voice. I'm a little under the weather. So we're also probably going to make this a quick podcast.
Speaker 1:Weather is right on top of you. Oh no, there's so much weather here, golly gee Alright. So first time you saw this movie, yes, first time you saw most of this movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did end up falling asleep on and off, because I was just so comfy.
Speaker 1:That's how you know we're professional podcasters. Luckily, I've watched the whole thing and have many things to maybe say about it, if I can remember, because I'm sick. But I want to know what'd you think of the creature?
Speaker 2:The creature was very difficult to understand.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right.
Speaker 2:Like I like how it has a bunch of arms and legs.
Speaker 1:It's just like something happened to how it swings around the bridge. That was kind of cool, that was rad and apparently, like they didn't intentionally like coming into the movie, they didn't intentionally have it swinging everywhere, it was like whenever they got to these locations.
Speaker 1:It's got all those arms it just got Well when it got to like these locations, they're realizing like, well, how will this thing move around, like these bridges and stuff? And they're like, oh well, it probably like be able to swing. It's got these long tails and things like that and I'm like man king kong's, that's that's how you know. You're like, you're, you're in for a good time, because this is directed by bong joon-ho, who's done movies like memoirs of a murder, um, parasite, the oscar he's an oscar winner best director and stuff.
Speaker 1:The movie's great, um, but this is the first movie I saw by him because you know, I'm like monster movie, oh, and it's like in a foreign language. I didn't know it was korean at the time and then I was like holy shit. I love foreign language monster movies because they're always like wacky and cool, like they're deeply sad but then also like very funny at the same time. Yeah, uh, I know bong joon-ho's like loves dark humor and he's very good at it. The time I know Bong Joon-ho loves dark humor and he's very good at it they're surrounded by skeletons. What do you want to eat? A beer, a cold beer? It's like, okay, looking directly at the camera almost.
Speaker 2:I love getting insights into Korean culture. It's so interesting, it's so different.
Speaker 1:And it's also nice to see that they can also be completely. Yeah, it's so interesting, yeah, it's so different, and it's also nice to see that that you know they can also be completely lied to about things like they're. I'm trying not to word this right. Cause I don't want people to be like, oh yeah, like coronavirus. That was all fake. But I just mean like you know. If people like you know, I don't know what I'm trying to say. All of a sudden I took myself in a hole.
Speaker 2:Here are you talking about when he's talking to the police about his daughter being alive and calling him yeah, and stuff like that, where it's just like they just don't believe it.
Speaker 1:They're just like why didn't you tell anybody? And they're like I did. Nobody's listening. Y'all just want to work on my brain because you think there's a virus, even though there is no virus. That was, uh, it's like what a scary moment, right, you're just completely surrounded by people who aren't going to believe you and it's just like what are you guys?
Speaker 2:talking about it was kind of acting like a crazy person, man yeah.
Speaker 1:But he, he didn't get enough protein. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I just grew up eating cup noodles and cookies and beer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, man, you know, also watching this, like them in their little shack and creating their like dinner and stuff, I'm like man. It just seems like they just everything's just noodles and they just pour hot water and everything and that's all their food.
Speaker 1:It looks so good, I know especially at the end when he was like scooping the rice and I was like I want some plain ass white rice right now, because that's my favorite type of rice Plain-ass white rice, plain-ass white, anyways. But yeah, I kind of love the design of the creature. It really does look like they mishmashed like five different fish.
Speaker 2:Yes, what does it do with the mouth? Was it like a squid beak?
Speaker 1:That's what it kind of looks like, doesn't it? With like weird round teeth? Yeah, it's like if a fish had a squid beak. It's not hard, it's just kind of squishy looking. The eyes are just. It almost looks like it had deep water eyes like fish that don't get sunlight, a lot of sunlight, yeah. It's got variations. It looked like a little bit of a frog in tadpole.
Speaker 2:It was slowly coming out of the tadpole form so if we pour a bunch of formaldehyde on ourselves? Yeah, this happened for us.
Speaker 1:You know what. Let's just get straight into some facts, because this is my favorite. So the opening scene was inspired by a true event, so like the scientist oh. So in 2000, a mortician in Seoul right Seoul, under the employment of the US Air Force, ordered his workers to dump embalming fluid down the drain. All in all, 120 liters were washed into the Han River raising the toxicity level.
Speaker 1:When Bong saw this case, he felt it would make a suitable beginning to his monster story. Details in the opening saying the motivation being obsessed with dust on the bottles, to be precise were based on actual event. Jesus Fuck, that's what I love about the beginning. It's like these bottles are dusty. It's ruined, it's like they're not open Like you. They're not open like this. You could probably still use it. It seems like an American thing to do, right?
Speaker 2:that's when you quit, I think, right yeah, that's when you're like you can, I'm out, but I love how, like the two supposedly Americans that are in the film, one is this OCD embalmer guy yeah, one guy's completely crazy, wonky guy, and then the other one's like American hero, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:But then you also got the other one. Whenever he's in, like he gets caught again and he's about to get, like brain fluid pulled from his brain. You got the one scientist that's kind of got a wonky eye. That guy um, he's actually from a lot of uh, robert zemeckis films. Oh cool, yeah, he's, he's very distinct looking.
Speaker 1:You can't forget him whenever you see him cool, this guy, it's crazy, um, but yeah, and it's like it almost feels like he's gonna be like the first person that believes him and then, all of a sudden, oh, this guy is insane. Also, by the way, there is no virus that we can tell, but we're going to keep saying it and keep doing operations on people till we figure it out what. Yeah, oh God, did you see that part?
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:We'll wing it. It's all right, I'll cut all of it out. Um so, one of the writers or producers, uh, mentions that the tradition of withholding the monster in typical monster movies and the fact that bong completely breaks this tradition. Bong mentions how much he hates this tradition and jumped at the chance to show his creature fully and early. This also got that aspect of the film out of the way, so the audience could focus on the impact that the creature has on the family. Love when they just show the creature Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, as they start off hard.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just like that opening scene is great, though. Right, the monster attack. Hell yeah, I was just running around the river there, yeah they're all just like polluting the river. It's like hey eat this.
Speaker 2:They're Throwing the trash at it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what do we do? Throw the trash and it's, I just feel like it's definitely like an allegory of just like stop polluting and throwing stuff in water. We have to stop doing it Because, like you know, they throw one and it eats it, and then they all start throwing it and then the monster's like fuck you, Eating you instead, which is great Trashing my river, bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, to be fair, that river was probably pretty dirty anyway, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, it looked murky as fuck, it was just gray. I was like I'd rather get in the sewer water at that point. It looked disgusting. So I'm talking about like the little kids that are like in the middle of the, like the two brothers that are looking for food in the middle of the movie, then the one that at the end that ends up living with the one guy. So Bong notes that it's nearly impossible to translate to Western society. It is a looter culture in Korea of young kids stealing food.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they call it like seori or something like that.
Speaker 2:S-E-O-R-I Is it just stealing food.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so like, typically it's mail-ins of some kind, not as a criminal act but as a mischievous act. Oh, that's fun. Yeah, if the children were were caught, they would not be arrested or turned into the authorities, but scolded for their actions. Bong included this phrase in the film to create something of a connection between gang do and the two boys, as if he sees something of himself in them. This is important at the end of the film when gang do goes to the younger brother after the creature has been killed. Also, sorry for my for my pronunciation, I didn't practice it but I do not have the energy to do it right today and I'm sorry, but yeah, I thought that was very interesting. I was like, oh, because I just thought you know Americans like, oh, this is these poor kids that need food, whatever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like don't. They're not a problem that has to be eradicated.
Speaker 1:They're just like little rascals I mean, and you know, when the little kids like, hey, I'm gonna steal the money, the older kids like, no, don't do that, we'll go to jail for that. This, we're fine, yeah, yeah. So I was like, oh, that's interesting, it was cool.
Speaker 2:Here, they just put you in prison for 75 years I love like korean monsters, just they're so fucking wacky and crazy.
Speaker 1:Oh man, there's so many great like I guess eastern, like yes films and stuff like that that have there's one it's I can never remember. It's like something about west. It has so many. It's so wacky and like over the top and there's so many creatures in it. It's so good I have to. I should have done that as my double feature.
Speaker 1:Damn, I'd have to remember the wild west I think it's like Once Upon a Time in the East or the West, something like that, I don't know. So though Bong Joon-ho recognizes the satire and political commentary in the Host about America, he doesn't view it as an overly anti-American film. Tony Raines remarks on the social tension between American cinema and Korean cinema. He also goes on to mention the host as being the highest grossing film in South Korean history, that it was able to out Hollywood, hollywood, nice. So I guess they didn't like go in like being like, oh, fuck America or anything. Yeah, I never got that. They just kind of use it as a I did, especially towards the end, when they're just like, oh, you know he's about to turn off the TV and the news program's going on in the background. So like I watched it a few times because you know they're talking while the TV's on in the background. I was trying to like listen to what it says and it was just saying that it was just misinformation about the virus and I'm like, oh shit.
Speaker 1:Well about the virus and like, oh shit, well, it seemed to be you guys leading that this was a virus. Yeah, it was, or they're just trying to. It sounded like they're trying to put blame on the south korean government for using misinformation about the thing.
Speaker 2:It's like well, we had your guy, yeah, being the one that says I kind of made it up. Yeah, it was interesting, well like. So the whole thing with the, with all the worms in their backs, was not even real, because no one ever got it except that American guy, yeah, that one dude yeah.
Speaker 1:So he probably got it from something else. Could have been something he was working on in the military.
Speaker 2:Working with bot flies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, could have been, because then, like the main character, he's like oh, I'm itching, I'm itching, I must have the virus, and like nothing ever comes from it he's like something's in my back. It feels like it's wiggling. Yeah, um has a tail. Yeah, so you know, we haven't really done that many foreign language films other than I think what like godzilla that was about it and princess mononoke but that's animated, so it's always over the top.
Speaker 1:It's an animated film, um. But so can you tell when in foreign films, when they're good actors, I think? So I mean, I think they're good actors in this, but it definitely seems like, you know, whenever they get exacerbated, it seems like over the top, especially for like um.
Speaker 2:And maybe it's just because, you know, I don't know the language sure, yeah, I think the language barrier is a huge thing and the translation. Some things get lost in translation, so you don't yeah like how there's words for they have words for emotions and things that we've, we just don't have yeah, so trying to translate that into english is really tough about because I know every time I've watched like foreign films, I'm always like, man, that was really good.
Speaker 1:Even like if it's I've watched like considered a bad movie, like a foreign film, I'm like I have no idea if it's good acting or not.
Speaker 2:They're very. They're very expressive on their face, so it makes me feel like it's good Immediately put on your beret and pull out your cigarette. We, this is now. I'm cultured, yeah.
Speaker 1:I like to think I did get cultured through movies. Throw me that baguette. Um, you got. Anything else you want to talk about at the beginning?
Speaker 2:nah, I'm not trying to rush it. I don't think so.
Speaker 1:I just it was fun, yeah it's like a fun little and then also it gets like really heartbreaking at the end.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that Mars, that monster like why was he barfing up people?
Speaker 1:So I think he was like he was. He was getting he's kind of nesting, collecting, collect food, so essentially he was grabbing people, taking them to his little home and then he was eating them later.
Speaker 1:Oh, eating them later he's like suck them up and they eat them. So he's I don't know what type of fish does that, but yeah, I don't think fish do that. I just, you know, I just kind of wish, like I wish they'd continue and like did a sequel and another fish comes back, but this time it's good, like do the Godzilla route and then you have, and they team up to fight things. That'd be sick. Then it's just like oh, it's Korean, godzilla, it's just monsters, all times different monsters, yeah.
Speaker 1:I would totally fuck with that. I mean not really. They'd probably end up ruining it at that point. Yeah, probably. It's like the Godzilla movies, like we're getting good and then they got bad.
Speaker 2:I wonder if they have a version of like 13 kind of thing, but with monsters and they all get out, that'd be rad, just stuck in a house with all these little monsters, Just like the famous super scary monsters. That'd be awesome.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, like the universal monsters type thing. Yeah, that'd be really cool. Alright, bro, let's hop into the film. So in 2000, an American military pathologist played by Scott Wilson he's in Walking Dead. He's like the old man in Walking Dead, yeah. Yeah, he's in a lot of Frank Darabont movies the Mist and things like that. Yeah, he's commanding a reluctant Korean assistant to violate protocol by dumping over 200 bottles of formaldehyde down the drain leading to the Han River. It's wild. They're so worried about dust on a bottle.
Speaker 2:It's like you're not cleaning these bottles.
Speaker 1:I think he's fucking lost his mind. How about you fucking clean the bottles dude? I think it's just this idea that you know people love to just waste.
Speaker 2:Throw out the shit. God so many bottles when he's dumping them in there and it's smoking.
Speaker 1:You might as well just take the bottles and just throw them straight into the river anyway, might as well add some glass on it.
Speaker 2:you know, maybe the monster would have eaten it, and died.
Speaker 1:So over the next few years there are sightings of a strange amphibious creature in the waterways. You got the two fishermen that pick up the little mug and they're like, Ooh, this is weird. It's like why didn't you kill it? You could have just killed it, Then you'd have been fine, it all been good.
Speaker 2:Well, does that mean, that there's?
Speaker 1:like lots of them in the river. No, I think it was just the one he just happened to see and grab it. I guess it was tiny at that time. That's what I was thinking pole or something. God damn, I don't know if the on river has a bunch of frogs in it, I don't know. Um, then you got the man jumping, which apparently is uh, was like a big thing on that bridge. Yeah, suicides, yeah, they love suicide. It doesn't seem tall enough to kill you. It really didn't seem it's not like the golden gate bridge where it's like very tall.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're not gonna hit maximum velocity all the way down I remember watching the um mythbusters episode where they're.
Speaker 1:I guess there was a myth about if you drop like something heavy under you, it'll break the water, so that if you fell afterwards you would survive. How did that work? So they had, like you know, buster, their test dummy. They dropped him but they had a, a sledgehammer underneath them, because it's supposed to be something as small as that could work. It did not. But anyways, this man is like oh, do you guys like? These two guys are running after this man. He's about to jump and they get there and he's like oh, did you guys see that? And then he ends up jumping.
Speaker 1:Everybody's like I don't know what you're talking about. You know, I actually just jump. You're seeing crazy. We're going to let this one go, yeah, but then we cut to six years later. And is it Seoul or Seoul? It's pronounced Seoul, seoul Park Gang-do has fallen asleep while working at a small snack bar. Also, this is the. This is one of the leads from Parasite, yeah, yeah, who won the Oscar that year. He's great. He's in like all of his movies and he's really, really good. Yeah, I like this guy. His father, hee-bong, wakes him up. This guy is constantly falling asleep. Did not get the protein properly. Gang-do sees his daughter, hyun-seo, sure Right, who is upset that their uncle came to parents day at school instead of him himself. Drunk ass uncle, yeah, and gang do. He's this lazy slob type of guy. He is like blonde hair, apparently the director yeah, he the director gave him that so that he would look dumb.
Speaker 1:oh yeah, it really worked, because I remember when I dyed my hair bleach blonde for a Halloween costume and then like, as it got longer and it was just like the bleach was kind of like going away.
Speaker 2:It was kind of looking like this, so you went all in on the bleach. Yeah, you could have just used the spray.
Speaker 1:No, I didn't want to do that. I wanted to go all in.
Speaker 2:Well, I was just like For gore.
Speaker 1:I mean fuck, fuck, why not? I've never done anything like that to my hair before. I liked it until I didn't, until it got too long. But it's like it had to get long because if I cut it then it'd be like frosted tips if I cut it too late. Did you get a puka shell necklace? For it too no, I was going with Ryan Gosling from Place Beyond the Pines.
Speaker 2:Gosling didn, the costume didn't turn out that great he's still going to have a puka shell.
Speaker 1:I could have done it, it would have worked. I could have been Ken. So we learned that she hates her phone. It never has signal and he's saving up to get her another one. I miss my old flip phone. Yeah, you flip them open so hard, I know it's like wham. It's like the noise sounds good and youlam it shut. Yeah, yeah, you can't really do that anymore.
Speaker 2:No, you're just like there's not a lot of satisfaction in hanging up real hard to make the noise yourself.
Speaker 1:I know I should, we should get an app that makes that sound whenever you hang up. Like I will say it's just like. As technology like continues, it's just like the sounds of things are so much worse because you know there's nothing better than like. You know you got the rotary phones when you like, slam those down. That was satisfying, it rings a little bit and then it went yeah, oh, I gotta call 9-1-1, oh, I got to call 911.
Speaker 2:The nine is the longest one.
Speaker 1:Dang it, I'm going to die. It's terrible. If you got kidnapped and you had one of those phones You'd be like damn, I'm going to wake my kidnapper up. So Heebong gives Gangdo an order delivered to some customers because Gangdo ate part of his customer's food.
Speaker 2:That was awesome. Yeah, and what is this? Is like a dried squid, that is grilling. Yeah, it's like a dried it's squid jerky, I don't know, and he just takes a big bite of its leg?
Speaker 1:yep, I guess, and that's like the best part or something.
Speaker 2:God if, I don't know what to think.
Speaker 1:I mean, I've had calamari, but I'd love to eat like a whole squid like that I don't know it just I've never. I thought it was just like a piece of paper no, no, it is, I guess, like once every take all the squid goo out of it.
Speaker 2:That's what it looks like.
Speaker 1:I don't know I'm sure it's like a specific type of squid, I know. I kind of wish I had this like on and then, like every time something popped up culturally that I didn't know someone would pop up.
Speaker 2:And, by the way, this is, this is what this is and this is why they do that. That would be helpful.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that's why I like watching like foreign films like this because like, oh, you're just really getting a culture you don't ever see, so they should all start with a history lesson. Yeah, exactly so. His sister is a national medalist archer named joe um and his brother is an alcoholic former activist named eel eel. Yeah, he's, uh, he he's actually probably like the coolest guy in the movie I love that guy I'll actually love the brother and sister.
Speaker 1:They're really great. I love them. I love like whenever because we see her doing at this point a little bit of archery and like whenever she pulls the bow and then shoots it. She just likes to let it dangle and I'm like that's fucking cool.
Speaker 2:Those bows are made? Yeah, I think they're they, I think they're like competition bows, cause they have to like it's kind of like a disarm like thing, yeah thing, yeah, so you know it's safe to put like I don't know she, she fucking crushed.
Speaker 1:It's fucking cool, yeah. So, uh, while gang do is delivering food to some customers, he sees a crowd along the han river. They witness a huge creature hanging from the wanhoi bridge which then jumps into the water. It's pretty cool, like man. How crazy would it be? I?
Speaker 1:thought it was gonna be like a person like an egg, yeah like a cocoon yeah, it kind of looks like that, but then you just slowly see it like I guess he's just like oh man, people are noticing me. I guess I better go say hi. Just like slowly drops in and people are like whoa.
Speaker 2:I thought it was going to be like a mothra.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sprout wings, that'd be awesome so at first it seems like the creature has swam away, encouraging the public to bait it back with food. Moments later, the creature rises out of the river and runs amok. It's just like they're all throwing food and they're looking at where they're throwing it and then, like one gang dude like turns his head. And then you just see like it's such a good shot because it's like, oh, what the hell's going on? It's just happening. It's very surprising, I feel like.
Speaker 2:First, time you watch it. It was kind of like this monster. It's just now. It's probably the first time it's come up out of the water. Yeah, it seems like, because it's not eating everyone around it and just destroying everyone. It's just kind of knocking them over.
Speaker 1:yeah, it seems like it hasn't perfected it yet. He's probably just been like eating fish and things like that, yeah.
Speaker 2:This is going to be way more fun and easier.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so this ain't just like it's. It almost feels like a baby. Yeah, it's small, like I wonder if it would get gotten bigger because as it's running and attacking people, it's like falling and stumbling and like rolling around on like the hills and it's pretty great. You got um. Yeah, it's like kills a number of people. You got Gang Do, an American man attempting to kill the creature with a metal pole why don't they just run away?
Speaker 1:well, so it's, you know, I guess it's like the American heroism of it, where it's like, oh, we have to do something, and then the gang dudes is like right next to him. So he's like I guess I'll help, and plus you have all those people, and what a great idea.
Speaker 2:Like all those people that run into that building and, of course, the other side's locked and it goes in there with them.
Speaker 1:I know it's like, oh shit, it's like damn. They're all like clamoring to get out. Yeah, it's like hell, it's crazy, um. But yeah, the american is seriously injured and they only succeed to anger it and start, and it starts pursuing gang do, gang do, grabs the girls, oh. And then, uh, the father and the daughter of gang do, um, they're like watching the medalist thing and it ends up that she got his sister got on because she hesitates A bronze. Yeah, she hesitates, that's her thing. We're building up story, baby. And then all of a sudden, they started like she walks out, she's like what's going on out here? And then like everybody's running around, and then he grabs her hand and they start running and they fall. And then he picks up another hand without looking and it starts running. It's like, oh no, it's not my daughter. And then he gets picked up, put it in the mouth and then swims away kind of wraps her up with the tail and then carries her around yeah, and then yeah, just goes to the other side of the Han.
Speaker 1:River finishes off that one dude, yeah and then takes her into the water and he jumps in and it's like what are you doing, dude? You can't swim that far, yeah, and that's it. Um, and then we kind of cut to a mass funeral for the victims of the creature. Um, you got the whole family there now. Uh, gang, do he bong not name ill and nam joe? Uh, mourn very dramatically, very, very so hard. That's where I'm like. So that's definitely supposed to be a little funny, right?
Speaker 2:I don't know If there's dark comedy in this.
Speaker 1:It's got to be a little funny.
Speaker 2:It was a little funny, yes.
Speaker 1:It's so over the top Whenever they all fall down and they're all like wiggling around, get high. That's one of those things where I'm like is that considered? Is that considered? Is that a normal amount of grieving? Is that, is that supposed to be funny? Is that just like over the top or is that normal? That's what I'm talking about. Whenever it's like how can you tell when people are good actors and it's like when you hire people to mourn a funeral.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're just throwing themselves on the caskets and shit I want yeah, put in my will.
Speaker 1:Make sure to hire a bunch of people to really cry at my funeral. Hire someone to motorboat me when in the while I'm laying there, you don't have to hire anybody, I'll just do it, and I love it whenever they're just like crying so much. You got all these people like uh, filming them and taking pictures of them.
Speaker 2:They're like get out of here yeah, what's your fucking problem?
Speaker 1:hey, but that's like a real thing. Maybe even they're like what get out of here? Yeah, what's your?
Speaker 2:fucking problem, hey, but that's like a real thing. Maybe even they're like what the fuck are these guys?
Speaker 1:These people are crazy River.
Speaker 1:They seem like they're have a virus or something. So then all of a sudden, a government representative comes in, he slips. That was awesome. He's like, oh God damn it. Time to make? Yeah, and they're. Essentially, they arrive and they're going to forcefully quarantine all the people who have been in direct contact with the creature, including Gangdo and his family. He's like I got blood on me, yeah, and so the South? Yeah. It's like, dude, what the fuck? Don't say that. But he's not smart. So the South Korean government announces that the creature is not only a direct in a direct danger, but also the host of a deadly unknown virus, which is the formaldehyde from the drain. I'm assuming if it was an actual virus.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's already a monster Like why do you have to try to make it scarier?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1:Right, I mean you're just trying to want people to go out there and start like shooting at it, but it seems like, I don't know, it's not that big of a monster. If you got enough people to shoot it, I think it'd work. Yeah Right. And then we see, the American who lost an arm to the creature is discovered to be infected with it. It's got a bunch of rashes, probably just has like gonorrhea or something. So while in quarantine inside a hospital, gang Doo receives a phone call from his daughter, who is not dead but trapped somewhere in the sewers by the creature. Too bad she didn't have a better cell phone.
Speaker 2:It's all your fault.
Speaker 1:Thanks, dad, hope you feel guilty. Yeah, it's like you know what little kid. I didn't have a cell phone until I was like I was 19. I was a junior. I was the last one in my school to probably get a cell phone. Yeah, man, I remember it was so fun when I got my phone because I was in a. I was in drama at the time and I went to, uh, like I guess, rehearse a play or whatever. And then my parents picked me up and, um, I was just in the back seat, they're in the front seat, and they just like it's like, oh, and it's my birthday, like happy birthday. I was like, thanks, mom, dad, love you. But then, uh, they just like I start hearing a phone ringing in the back seat in the bottom, like what is that?
Speaker 1:and they're like I don't know what's back there, and I was like, oh my god, it was a razor flip phone ah, it was so.
Speaker 1:I was like, damn there's they got so creative with that. That was such a good moment. I'll never forget it in my life. Mom, if you're listening, thank you. I'm sick, I'm going to get emotional. But she ends up getting caught off on her phone as her battery runs out. Gang Doo tries to explain this to the others, but his protests go ignored by all except his family Because they go to talk to a cop and he's like you're bazonkers, dude. We don't believe you, you're sick, or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's not wrong. I mean, the way that he was acting was kind of nuts, yeah.
Speaker 1:but then you also have like the other family members being like dude, like if she's still out there, let us go get her. But then it's like dude, like if she's still out there, let us go get her. But then it's just like well, you're infected, we can't let you go. But it's like, I don't know. Nobody believed him. I don't know why. But then, like here, they have no evidence that this monster is just killing everyone.
Speaker 2:right, right just kill a few people. Yeah, at least made them bloody.
Speaker 1:Yeah, ate a bunch of them because it didn't kill an american, just ate his arm. Yeah, but it tasted bad. Yeah, too much fatty foods in it, too much fried foods and like. Maybe that's why he liked the Korean people that's like mmm ramen. Oh no, because that's all we see him eat in the movie yeah or squid. I mean, if they're eating like squid and stuff they'd be like mmm, this is my favorite food squid.
Speaker 1:I thought they would taste more like a squid yeah, if you're Korean and you taste like squid, let us know link in the description and if we were being insensitive?
Speaker 2:we don't know sorry, I brought some human flesh, just try it out we all taste like fried chicken and cows.
Speaker 1:So we cut to two men who are fumigating the streets. They stop and are attacked by the creature. I love that the guy gets out while fumigating. Gets out and immediately like, oh wait, there's like some money in the ground. It's like, did you see that while driving? But then the monster comes out of nowhere just like belly flops on their car.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I thought I was going to jump out like the shark. Yeah, just grab him yeah.
Speaker 1:And the two men are taken to the sewer where they are regurgitated. You see that Hyunsoo has been hiding in the hole in the walls of the sewer, so that's why she's not getting eaten, which is cool.
Speaker 2:He picked them all up. Honestly, you don't really see any of them get eaten. Yeah, you don't really.
Speaker 1:The only time you see it. You just see the monster come up and just regurgitate bones at one point, oh nice. You slowly see there's no more bodies throughout the film in there. Oh, okay, so Yi-Bong Gang. No more bodies throughout the film in there. Okay, yeah, um, so he bong. Oh, gang, do in the family try to sell it. Tell an officer that his daughter has called, but they don't believe him. They didn't decide to escape the hospital to track down their daughter. Um, he bong. Oh yeah, this is where. How did they get out? Um, he's just walking through the hallway and they started running.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's right, they just jumped in somebody's car yeah, they're pretending to walk through and like one's got crutches, pretending that they're just like hurt patients or whatever. And then all of a sudden they start running, they knock over this nurse and the nurse is like he tried to kill me. He knocked me down, I'm going to sue him. And then you got the one officer that's like slow as fuck, it's like barely even trying to catch him. At a certain point did they hire the driver? Yeah, so these are because he had like a friend in like the police and I guess they contacted him they got like his brother's people, sister's uncle, yeah, whatever yeah, um, because then, like after they escape, um, also we learned that, uh, nam joe is very, which she really is.
Speaker 1:It's like, hey, girl, you seem fit, come on, let's pick up the pace here. You're barely running here. It's more dramatic. They all get in the car and they're like where's she at? She's like you're not hurt, what are you doing? They all get away and then we cut to Heebong, who's getting weapons in a map from these like group of men that are like it's going to be $11,000 essentially, and it's all of his earnings, yeah.
Speaker 1:Does this seem like a group of, I guess like Korean gangsters, I don't know they have like a. It'll seem like they have a chop shop and stuff like that where they're at.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they live in like a what do you call those Junkyard? They live in like a what do?
Speaker 1:you call those Junkyard. Yeah, like a junkyard type thing. I guess I'd just call it like a chop shop or something, because he's got all these cars and like parts everywhere Like a wall full of just junk and they're just selling guns and shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's awesome.
Speaker 1:Yeah, except they just take his credit card. Yeah, they fuck with him. Yeah, it's like damn. Yeah, it's like damn. Well, don't worry, old man, you'll be dead soon. $10,000 per map, yeah. Or like a map was $500 of the sewers apparently. Yeah, so yeah. And then they're off to search. They get stopped at a checkpoint where the district officer questions him, he bong, gives him money and drives off after questioning. It's kind of like a tense moment but then, like it was kind of resolved in a way of like the guy's like here's a bucket of quarters, it's all I got, see you later. It's like they're like okay, I guess he can just go. Like. It's kind of a weird part of the movie, um, and then while gang do and his family are searching the sewers in the streets, uh, for their daughter, they believe they hear the creature and shoot at it. But then we see it's just two brothers looking for food, cause he got like the little little, super little kid and the guy looks like he might be like 16 or 19. Anywhere, from.
Speaker 2:There.
Speaker 1:Kind of just came out of nowhere. Yeah, they're just like oh, why are these people in here? All of a sudden they live here. Um, they live here, so they believe they. So Sijin and Siju Joe are attacked by the creature while looking for food. They end up going to the same like food shack thing that is owned by the family. Yeah, so they. But while they're eating food this is where we get. It's like, oh, little kids trying to steal money. But they're like no, we don't do that, sorry. Yeah. And then they, they walk out and they're fleeing, but a monster ends up eating both of them.
Speaker 1:The creature then takes the two brothers back to the sewers where it regurgitate both of them, with only C Joe coming out alive. Can see you, damn, I'm getting so tired of just not being. There's nothing worse than not being sure. If I'm getting so tired of just not being. There's nothing worse than not being sure if I'm saying it. Right sees that C Joe is alive and they both hide out of sight from the creature. She's got a little friend, now get in my hole. It's like it gives you a reason to like live if you give someone someone to protect covered in mucus.
Speaker 1:ew, yeah, like her face is like completely covered in black at that point, damn.
Speaker 2:But hey, and she so. Do you think she made the call Like because does she have a? Could she have just gotten a phone off one of the dead?
Speaker 1:people and called. I think, well, she does like search everybody, but I think, like the people getting brought there just don't have phones, especially like the two brothers, because stand and like just the brothers and dad, yeah, she's just she's there all of a sudden.
Speaker 1:That's like I have that in my notes. Ok, well, we'll get there. Oh, I know I don't have that in my notes, but I do talk about it. I will get there. So, and then we see the family. They're out and about again. The family stops at their own food, stand to rest and eat while eating. They have a weird moment where they act like the daughter is with them and start to feed her. Yeah, I think what I read was Bong Joon-ho was like he wanted a moment where, like, the family is together. It's like a nice, like peaceful, sweet moment to show like, oh, they're actually a really nice family. It's just kind of a moment of relief, I guess sure, just for the film. And it is kind of like this weird, like dreamlike situation because they're all eating, then all of a sudden he like pops up. Then you're like, oh, is this this gang dude kind of seeing it, and then they all start feeding her well, they're worried that she doesn't have food down there yeah, but it made me think that the monster is like replicating people.
Speaker 1:No, no, no no.
Speaker 2:And like causing you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Like sending out clones. Yeah, it's almost kind of like a daydream for the entire family, like what they want so bad in this situation. They just want her to be back so they can eat in their tiny ass. Little shack man, I would love to be in a shack like that.
Speaker 1:Work there, live there Full of snacks, watch TV there, just kind of take a nap. Nobody's around. Seems like a nice little cozy house Full of food Next to a stinky river, yeah, so the next morning Heebong tells Namil and Namjo that Gangdu can't help being the way he is because he has. He had a miserable childhood because he bong was never around and he never had food, which he hypothesizes affected gang news, physical health and mental, mentally disabled. Him turned his hair blonde. Yeah. So I guess he just like at nights he would just go around and steal like vegetables and stuff like that, so he never got the protein, so his brain didn't fully function. Okay, but yeah, I thought that was. Uh, you know, when I first watched it I was like, oh, that's what's wrong with him. There is something wrong with him. He's not just like like a really bad like person at being able to do anything.
Speaker 1:Um so as he Bong, finishes his story, gang dudes like, ah, it's this great shot. Sees the creature soaking up the rainwater. I love it, cause he's like telling the story and then he like turns, and then gang dudes just like staring right at him and it's like Ooh, creepy. But then you see that he's like staring out the window and he's like the creature sees us.
Speaker 2:Jesus, not looking at him at all. Doesn't it have its head just like, ah, like a turkey?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like looking straight up at the sky, but its mouth is wide open and you can kind of see it's just drinking the rainwater which will come into play later at the end of the film. But I love the shot. It's a great shot of just the creature at night. But then it cuts out outside of it and you see Gang-do and Hee-bong. There's like a little crack and you see both of the faces and I was like fuck, jun-bong Ho is such a good director. So then all of a sudden they just decide to fire at the creature but it attacks back Like, knocks over their little shack. Hell yeah, they think they killed it because they like shoot it a bunch and then it's like falling over and it's like and shoot it again, but it's still alive. It runs away and they run after it, firing at it, then escapes into the water. See, it is killable. Two like three people with shotguns were able to kill, almost kill it they should all have guns.
Speaker 1:I know, like what does this army do? Come on man um gang, do believing his show they have the army there.
Speaker 2:But then they called them, they recalled them because of the water toxicity oh yeah, is that what it?
Speaker 1:is okay, I think so that might be it.
Speaker 2:Then it was like swarming with the soldiers and they're like no water sucks, get out of there.
Speaker 1:Never mind, we hate water. Damn the army, they should have got the navy. Um, so yeah, gang do, believing he has shells left in his shotgun, gives his gun to his father, at his request, so that he can attempt to hold off the creature buying his family some time. As Hee Bong is about to fire at the creature, gang Doo realizes he has miscounted his shots you see him like counting on his hand, like how many shots and that his shotgun is empty. He said he had two bullets left.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but then he had none. He sucks at counting, yeah, shouldn't trust that.
Speaker 1:As he looks back to his father, Heebong is attacked and killed by the creature.
Speaker 2:Kind of just looked like he knocked him over and he hit his head. Yeah.
Speaker 1:He got attacked and killed, I guess.
Speaker 2:It kind of just felt more like a push out of the way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the thing, the creature doesn't seem to really know what it's doing quite yet. It's like I just know I got hurt so I'm just going to hit all these people.
Speaker 1:He doesn't have claws. He's got a whippy-ass tail though. So Gang-Do runs back to his father. But what we saw earlier while they were attacking was the army and some scientists getting closer to him. But the army and scientists arrive and capture Gang-Do because he didn't run away, because he's so sad about his father. Damn, I hate to see it. Then you got Nam-Jo. Il and Nam-Jo are able to hide but are separated from each other while Gang-Doo is taken away, screaming in agony over his father's death. I really like the father. It was really a bummer when he died. Yeah, seemed like he turned his life around. You know from the story he told earlier. So we see on the news that the government will use Agent Yellow to try to kill the creature, that there's a bunch of protests over the fact they're using Agent Yellow.
Speaker 2:It's just. It's not like a spy, it's not like a dude named Agent Yellow no. It's like I think they isn.
Speaker 1:This is a real thing, though, Agent Orange. Agent Orange I guess Agent Yellow is like, maybe less I don't know, I don't know anything about Agent Yellow. It's not a war crime, maybe, yeah, it definitely probably is a war crime, but they're using it against non-humans. I don't know if you can consider that a war crime.
Speaker 2:No, but I'm saying like Agent Orange was kind of a war crime thing that we did. Yeah, and a lot of people kept getting cancer and dying from it.
Speaker 1:Yes, Throughout time.
Speaker 1:So Nam-il meets a friend, meets with a friend who's going to help locate Hyun-soo's phone call from earlier. I love it because it kind of becomes almost like a noir little spy movie for a second. Because he meets the guy, they give him a new suit, they're meeting in back alleys, it's going to take him to this like tech company, I guess, to trace the call. And then, like he walks into another room and there's like a group of, I guess of police officers or whatever like, ready to capture this guy and he's like, hey, it's like, be careful, this guy's an escape artist. So he's like be careful, this guy's an escape artist. Um, so yeah, but no, because he got out of a hospital. Uh well, I guess he's just like throughout his time like just knowing the guy.
Speaker 1:I guess he's just able to get out of places fast, slippery guy, um, but yeah. Then he's able to get the location of his sister or his uh, nieces phone call and so he knows where they're at. But then he like realizes like oh shit, I'm being set up here and like turns out all the lights by I don't know doing something to electricity. He's able to escape and then he jumps off a bridge and while hurt jumping from a bridge, Nam-il texts, Nam-jo the location. Then we cut to Nam-jo, who's been hiding in a little bridge, Like cut out I guess, Like right under it. Well, so she's like above the water, right under the bridge, and you know, you have the metal little things that hold it up. She's like hiding in a little hole in it and I was like that's so fucking rad, that was so cool, it was a great shot.
Speaker 1:All the shots from this part are so good. It's very cinematic and I love it. We see that she's evading police. She's like hiding in the water and like going across the wall while the army people are right there. It's very video gaming, it's great. Then she receives Nam-il's text and goes to search. So while Nam-jo is searching through the sewer. She comes out across the creature and tries to attack it with her bow. She hesitates.
Speaker 1:Damn that's why you're a bronze medalist not a gold medalist To take the shot and the creature knocks her down into a hole, knocking her unconscious. The creature, unable to reach her, continues running through the sewers. It's like damn, she could have done it right then and there.
Speaker 2:I feel like most predators would just keep going after the thing that they already knocked down, even if it's stuck in a hole, I think it's just because it's like a baby.
Speaker 1:It seems like it's immature, so it's just like ah fuck it.
Speaker 2:That's how it talks.
Speaker 1:Oh, and I guess for the sounds of the creature they actually did use an actor to make all those sounds and stuff and just trying to tweak the voice and stuff. That's cool yeah.
Speaker 2:I like the chicken.
Speaker 1:Yeah, from Alan Tudyk. Yeah, so we should do another Tudyk movie. Yes, so, after being placed in a special medical facility, gong Du is interrogated by two scientists. Medical facility Gongdu is interrogated by two scientists Interpreting his ravings about his still-alive daughter as a product of an infection by the virus, they decide to operate on his brain in an effort to extract a sample's procedure they deem necessary, as until now they have found no actual trace of any virus. I put in my notes wonky-eyed bitch, because this is where I was talking about earlier, where it's. The American scientist is like why didn't you tell anybody? Why haven't you communicated to anybody? He's like what are you talking?
Speaker 1:about I have and they're like ah, this is worse than I thought it must be in his brain. Then he goes and takes the Korean scientist aside and he's like just to let you know there is no virus.
Speaker 2:And then Gong Doo's like no virus.
Speaker 1:He was able to understand that and he's like no virus.
Speaker 1:And as he is being prepared for the operation where he will be stuck with a needle in his brain, we cut to. Hyun Soo talks to the child that survived earlier, talking about what they will do when they get out. They talk about food. What would you eat, man? I'm so hungry. A cold beer, because I forgot to tell you. Gang-do gave her a beer at the beginning of the movie and she's like she took a drink. She's like it's too bitter, but now she's hooked on the sauce. All she wants is a beer. Get a little funny bit, get some levity in the situation.
Speaker 2:So what age do you let your kids try alcohol? Because my oldest High school.
Speaker 1:I was.
Speaker 2:My oldest is 13. And I let her take a teensy, weensy little sip of tequila, just so that she would hate it. That's actually a good idea.
Speaker 1:Because I knew she was going to hate it.
Speaker 2:Tequila is probably one of the worst things to let someone try at the very beginning and she just kind of dipped her tongue in it and was like ah, what if she just took the shot? And was just like damn. She just grabs a lime that's smooth as shit.
Speaker 1:Put some salt on her hand.
Speaker 2:She does that, rolling the shot around her hand. Yeah, you just look at her.
Speaker 1:It's like you're grounded and I'm grounded.
Speaker 2:Everybody in this house is grounded right now Get my phone so I could call the police on myself.
Speaker 1:I know, the first time I tried it, like my dad and his friends. They made like homemade wine Gross. Yeah, let's just say it doesn't. It did not taste like wine, it tastes like straight like it tasted like it was harder.
Speaker 2:I don't like homemade wine.
Speaker 1:The closest thing I could say is it tastes like moonshine. Yeah, that's pretty much it, and so that was the first thing I drank and I was like whoa if this is alcohol no way, no thanks.
Speaker 1:So I never really drank alcohol until it was like I don't know I think I was like 20 or something and like I stayed with my friends in Murfreesboro and they were like they were drinking some Captain Morgan and then I had some. I was like, oh, this isn't that bad actually. Um, and then, like you know, I drank like probably like three coffee mugs of it. I felt bad the next day because I didn't know how to like help mitigate the hangover by drinking water and stuff.
Speaker 1:I just uh, I just felt really bad the next day and had things I was supposed to do. It was a rough day. Whoa, this is way better than sports. Yeah, and you know, let us know the youngest you let your child drink alcohol.
Speaker 2:Outside of the world.
Speaker 1:I will say we are from Tennessee. Everybody's drinking constantly. It's a rite of passage to let your kid drink before they're 18.
Speaker 2:It kind of makes me proud to give my child something that they hate so that they'll never do it again. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean you picked the right alcohol.
Speaker 2:If you were to give them some sweet white wine.
Speaker 1:I'd be like you've messed up. Give them a Boone's Farm. Like I said, you should just be like pour some rubbing alcohol in a drink oh yeah, taste this like this is alcohol this tastes like brain damage, yeah anyway.
Speaker 1:So back in the sewers, while the creature is sleeping, yun-so ties together clothes from bodies of the dead to create a rope. She successfully latches the makeshift rope to the top of the drain, but the creature shows up and regurgitates bones and starts to eat some of the dead bodies and then tries to eat Hyunsoo, but they run into the hole and make it.
Speaker 2:You know what I like about bones. You ever had bone broth? There's like these packets. You can get that. You just dump it in the hot water and stir it up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's kind of like it's like broth. Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's just broth.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's so good, I've never had bone. Well, I mean, maybe I have and you're drinking bones. Hell yeah, it makes my bones extra bony Yep, it's like you know. It really sucks if there is a god.
Speaker 2:How you know he has no sense of humor. If bone broth doesn't give you a massive boner.
Speaker 1:It's an aphrodisiac, it's like. It's like guys, like I hear I'm gonna get, I'm gonna have sex in a couple minutes.
Speaker 2:We should go out with our own bone broth. Yeah, just put like monster bones and like make it green or something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm sure there's some sort of animal bone in the world that would make somebody super horny.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like the rhinoceros horn. Yeah, it just has to come from an endangered species.
Speaker 1:It just reminds me of the Office episode where they're going to watch Glee at Gabe's house and Andy like hates Gabe and he like he learns, like oh yeah, this seahorse powder or whatever is like an aphrodisiac and like makes you like, oh yeah, this seahorse powder or whatever is like an aphrodisiac and makes you super virile and masculine. He drinks it and he throws up all night. We're very close to that episode On our rewatch. So we're back to Gangdu who looks out of it. Gangdu, he's almost like comatose looking. It's like after they took the brain juice from his head and the nurse has it in her hand. He takes the needle, puts it up to the nurse's neck, is like get me out of here.
Speaker 1:Where's the card? Give me all you got.
Speaker 2:I remember that part. I just want to woke up. Yeah, after he took the brain juice. Yeah, um, can you survive without brain juice? I guess I just took a little bit.
Speaker 1:I don't know this. This whole part is like what?
Speaker 2:they're just like they just put a needle through his skull and got it.
Speaker 1:It's like severance yeah, but it doesn't matter. It's like a, it's a monster maybe, so you shouldn't even think about it really okay. Well, yeah, I will continue not thinking about it. Yeah, so he escapes and continues to search for his daughter. Namil wakes up the next morning with a homeless man sitting next to him. They talk for a little bit, he like wakes up and he's like where the fuck am I the?
Speaker 1:homeless guy's like so I give you a bed and you don't even say thank you. He's like I'm great. And then he starts like he takes the homeless man's bag, takes some bottle, empty bottles, starts putting them in the bag. He's like here's like some money for the, for the stuff, and he like hits him over the head with a glass bottle it's like and he's like your money doesn't buy everything. But then he's like you know what? I'll help you kill the monster, let's go. And it's like who are?
Speaker 2:you.
Speaker 1:I like this guy, yeah. And then they like they get in a taxi and they're driving and then you hear on the radio that there's a lot of protests about agent yellow and that they're getting prepared to like dump it into the water or whatever. Fuck yeah. So we see, gang do.
Speaker 2:He's running into the sewers, the Boston or like when they turn the water green.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, kind of wild that they do that. What a kibble are they just putting food coloring?
Speaker 2:yeah it's just food coloring, as far as I know. Is that like okay, it's gotta be safe? Is that okay for?
Speaker 1:does it have to be? I think, I think it has to be. Can't you just like not drink a bunch of food coloring and it?
Speaker 2:like makes you sick. Why don't they just do tea like they used to like the Lipton?
Speaker 1:tea, boston tea it'd be, way tastier sure fish would love it. Put some, put some nice chamomile tea. All the fish are just like hell. Yeah, brother, I'm fucking sleepy dude, like a bunch of fish rising from the top bottom with their doilies. Yeah, I can't wait to like they legalize weed everywhere. They start dumping weed in the water. Yes, everybody just swimming in it. Yes, that'd be great Fish come up. They start talking Like what up, brother, smokey, another.
Speaker 1:So we see Hyun-seo waking up in the sewer while the creature is sleeping. She attempts to escape. She notices the creature sleeping and the rope is hanging right over him. She takes a beer can, throws it at him and it doesn't wake up. So she, she goes, she's going to run up the monster to jump on the rope. She gets on it, she starts kind of climbing up, then all of a sudden, like we hear the monster, and then she like stops. It's really great, I love this part, cause then she's just like holding there and the rope, and then she lets go and she's still up in the air and it's like no Great reveal. But she's caught by the creature. The creature is seemingly still sleeping, gently puts Hyunsoo back on the ground, terrified. She slowly attempts to hide, but the creature leaps at her and Sejoo and swallows them both and we're like no, they're dead, but they taste pretty good.
Speaker 2:I mean, kids probably taste better than adults.
Speaker 1:I mean she had a spider on them. What if the spider bit the monster in the tongue?
Speaker 2:It was like ew, ew, ew, that's all you gotta do.
Speaker 1:Catch a bunch of brown recluses, throw it on the monster and that's it.
Speaker 2:And then you release a bunch of birds and they eat the brown. It's going to catch the brown.
Speaker 1:And then you have a bunch of hunters and they kill the birds and then everything's dead.
Speaker 2:You just release a bunch of bigger spiders that eat the smaller spiders.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like radioactively.
Speaker 1:You get one of those like oh, what is it? Australian giant ass fucking spiders.
Speaker 2:Oh, like the trap door, the funnel web? I don't know.
Speaker 1:Super poisonous ones. They're the huge ones. Oh, you're talking about the. They're like wolf monster wolf spiders.
Speaker 2:Yeah, those things are not. They ain't really that dangerous, but like there's the camelback bird-eating spider. Oh, hell, yeah, my roommate had in college those things are fucking terrifying. Your roommate seems like a cool person that I wouldn't yeah because it was always pushing on the lid of the case trying to get out.
Speaker 1:It's like a fucking facehugger.
Speaker 2:It's like testing it, like the Raptors from Jurassic Park.
Speaker 1:I get it. You walk in. He's reading a book how to open doors. He's like hey, shut the door. Were you born in a barn? Yeah, has another girl spider?
Speaker 2:over.
Speaker 1:Hey, I put the sock on there. I put the web on the floor, yeah.
Speaker 2:That was our rule. Yeah, when we had girls over, everyone had their feet on the floor. Why? Because you're not doing the sideways hustle. What do you go like in conservative?
Speaker 1:college? Yes, it sucked ass. Anyway, what college did you go to? Lipscomb, oh?
Speaker 2:I was already enrolled at UT and I was like gonna go, and my parents were like, listen, if you don't want a huge financial burden, you'll go where we want you to go. That's true. I was like okay it's a good thing.
Speaker 1:I'm stupid, you didn't go to ut. It sucks that you went to lipscomb but uh, yeah, ut, they actually have a rule where no feet are allowed on the floor. Oh yeah, you're only supposed to be sideways, or on top, or on bottom. Hell, yeah, yeah, so, uh, gang-doo finally.
Speaker 2:I love this.
Speaker 1:Let's just go right back into it after that Gang-Doo finally finds the sewers where the creature kept Hyun-Soo, but the creature and Hyun-Soo are not there. As Gang-Doo climbs down into the sewer, the monster passes over him. He sees Han Su's arm hanging out of the creature's mouth and starts to chase after him. It's like waving at him.
Speaker 2:It's because of the hand mouth thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then the monster's like the princess is another castle.
Speaker 2:It's inside of a different monster.
Speaker 1:As Gang Du is running after the creature, he comes across Namjo and noticing that it is heading towards the protest of Agent Yellow, they go after it together. As Nam-il and the homeless men arrive at the protest and as the creature attacks, agent Yellow is released because the creature like comes out upon the land. At that point, agent Yellow is released.
Speaker 2:It's like this giant like like smoke God, it's terrifying yeah.
Speaker 1:And, like people are all around it are coughing up blood and bleeding out their ears. Except gang do some reason, but he didn't get protein.
Speaker 2:So maybe that helps. It was a protein.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Agent yellow. It appears to be hurting the creature, but it doesn't kill it. As the creature is laying on the ground, gang do sees Hyunsoo in its mouth creature comes out with a gas mask gotcha fuckers, gotcha bitch.
Speaker 1:He pulls her and Cjo out, but Hyunsoo is revealed to be dead, clutching Cjo, who's still alive. And it's like fuck to be dead. Clutching Cjo who's still alive, and it's like fuck. I love the part where he's like going into the mouth, though it's like really creepy and gooey feeling. But yeah, she's dead, all that, but she died a hero by saving Cjo. Way to go, girl. She got her beer, she got to experience it all. In a fit of rage, gangdo attacks the creature with a metal pole. But his oh love when he gets the pole, because he like it's essentially the same thing he was using earlier with the american guy, except he like breaks the concrete off. Then he whacks the sign off and is like let's, what's up with that sign that was on it, no bugles.
Speaker 2:Is that what I said in the in the beginning? That's what it had like with the concrete block on the bottom of it. Yeah, is it set up the circle, the red circle, with the line through it and a bugle like a bugle, or a bugle, a bugle?
Speaker 1:you know, oh, maybe no music. No, no bugles. No, no live music, no trumpets. I guess it's just like maybe they have like a homeless problem where, like, they play music to ask for money. Maybe that would be amazing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or maybe it's just like maybe they have like a homeless problem where, like, they play music to ask for money. Maybe it's like no, it'd be amazing, yeah, or maybe it's just not a lot of music in that park, I don't know what I hate, though, when people pretend to play music, yeah, and like they have the speaker and they're, they have the like the violins showing like a dollar sign and they're just moving the, the, yeah, so that was actually at our local walmart.
Speaker 1:Um, there was somebody they're playing music and it's. I was like I wonder if he's actually playing it or not. I was actually asking that question. I don't think it was. I always like to if I'm in a car and I hear him like playing it, I always like to like make up a song that they're playing. My favorite is Pot by Tool. Oh nice, who are you to wag your finger? That's a badass song. It is Tool's like a great before work band. It's like I'm fucking ready to be mad at supervisors. So, yeah, Gang Doo. He's decided to attack the creature with a metal pole but it's knocked to the ground. Name Nam-il and the homeless man. Then come to Gangdu's aid. Nam-il is throwing a bunch of Molotov cocktails at the creature, but like missing.
Speaker 1:But the creature's missing, the homeless man climbs up to the platform above the creature and starts to pour gas onto the creature, and I love it and the creature's like ah water. And like it's just gulping it up. But Namil goes to throw his last Molotov cocktail, but he drops it. One of those classic bits Just slips out of your hand. You know I hate when that happens.
Speaker 2:Why are?
Speaker 1:these bottles covered in petroleum jelly. I wish they put like a like, noise like when the guy slipped like a looney tunes or something he slips on a banana peel but then Namjo, fucking badass, then picks up a flaming cloth from the bottle with one of her arrows and fires it at the creature, hitting it in it's eye. This is where she does.
Speaker 1:It's like slow motion she shoots it and then it at the creature hitting it in its eye, Cause this is where she does. It's like slow motion. She shoots it and then it like hangs.
Speaker 2:It cuts that scene from Robin Hood, prince of Thieves, with Kevin Costner, where he shoots the arrow and it's like spinning roll. Still have never seen it, you're out to do it for the podcast. It's a badass scene.
Speaker 1:I love that shit. So yeah, it hits it in the eye. The creature bursts into flames and attempts to run to the Han River. When Gangdu appears from behind one of the bridge's pillars with a metal pole in hand and impales the creature in its mouth, finally killing it, because that river definitely would have caught on fire too, right. Yeah, probably it's filled with formaldehyde.
Speaker 2:I don't know if that's flammable.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know either, it might be. I either it might be. I guess next time we're around a dead body, let's get it on fire, let's test it out. Um yeah, rad, rad little ending here how flammable are corpses?
Speaker 2:yeah, I don't know, I guess embalmed corpses because you got to heat that shit up to like 3 000 degrees.
Speaker 1:This one's filled with gas too. So, yeah, yeah, um. So, as nam il and nam joe hold hyunsoo mourning her death, gangdo walks over to see ju and picks him up, trying to wake him up, like who are you? Why are you? You're mine, what is this? And he takes him away from the protest into safety. Get a nice little like final shot of like people and like it's all brown and the uh creatures on fire. Yeah, it's like really nice ending shot. But then time passes and gang do is living with si jun ju in his food stand. Uh, this, all these shots with this, is this beautiful. It's snowing out. Um. Gang do believes he sees something in the distance picking up his shotgun, but then realizes it was nothing, or was it it was? Uh, then gang C-Joo then sit down to have something to eat. While a news broadcast about the monster's attack on TV is on, it's discussing about misinformation about the virus. The film ends with C-Joo asking Gang-Doo to turn the TV off so they can concentrate on eating.
Speaker 2:Because that little kid loves eating.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but. And then the movie ends with a no kid is ever going to do that again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Turn off the TV so I can concentrate on something right especially as, like a homeless kid, it's like I need TV constantly and then if you go through the credits it ends with a monster roar, like it does in all the Godzilla movies and stuff. Yeah, and that's the host. Baby, what a banger. That was so cool. We're gonna hop into our good, the bad, the ugly, the fine, before we discuss the good of the film something we like, the bad, something we didn't. The ugly, something that didn't age well. The fine something that did age well. What do you got for the good?
Speaker 2:I think the monster was just really cool. Yeah it all those extra arms. Yeah, it was a very very creative creature Right.
Speaker 1:It's fun. It's something that always ends up in monster movies.
Speaker 2:It's like oh, the creature's cool and it's usually like that's the whole thing, right. Usually it's a little disappointing. It's got to be pretty fucking cool, yeah, but.
Speaker 1:I feel like if we're going to make a monster movie, please spend years deciding what you want your monster to look like. For me, I put. The action scenes are really good and the music the music was pretty cool. The music was great. It's like it was a wide variety of type of like feelings you get from the movie Sometimes a little wacky, Sometimes it's really like scary and intense.
Speaker 2:And the food looked really good. Yeah, the food looked so good.
Speaker 1:I'd go eat in Korea. I want to eat a weird dried up squid, me too. Let's go find some squids, bro, yeah.
Speaker 2:I'll be going on vacation.
Speaker 1:I'll see if I can find one. Yeah, bring me back the bad. I put, you know the 2006 movie, so you know some sketchy CG, but I thought it was. It wasn't bad, no it wasn't that bad.
Speaker 2:It seemed like they really did make the monster look and feel real.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But sometimes I guess my bad would be counterpoint to that, to where the monster would be just like Not hurting people. Yes, that's my problem.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Monsters always need to be hurting someone. Yeah, this one. This one.
Speaker 1:It was a little confused, you know. Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, it kind of, I think, the putting the two kids searching for food and, like Just supposing that, with a monster who's like constantly searching for food and taking it back to his home, so it kind of makes oh, they're buddies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's kind of I guess, if you kind of look at it like that and it kind of makes sense. But he was just like. He was just like storing food for later, you know, like these little kids were and he doesn't even know why. Yeah, probably, I don't know.
Speaker 2:He's like I'm hungry and I'm going to be hungry later. I only want the bones yeah.
Speaker 1:What do you got for the ugly? What didn't age well?
Speaker 2:Bones, I guess misinformation I always hate that.
Speaker 1:I put Americans fucking polluting shit. Yeah, crazy.
Speaker 2:Everybody, every country does it. Pouring chemicals in the rivers yeah, that sucks.
Speaker 1:The fact that everything the Americans do in this film seems legit and probably happens.
Speaker 2:I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1:We're just down on our country right now.
Speaker 2:I'm just really jealous, we have fucking.
Speaker 1:Tesla commercials at our White House at the moment.
Speaker 2:What are we?
Speaker 1:supposed to do here.
Speaker 2:This is the official car of the White House now.
Speaker 1:It's fucking just our president is begging us to buy Tesla. He's like nobody down. What is?
Speaker 2:this Zero for this it's for you Is this not illegal in some way. It's just embarrassing.
Speaker 1:I think the president, pushing cars on us that we can't afford because we're not lowering prices. You know what?
Speaker 2:We're not a political podcast, sorry. Let's pivot, let's pivot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, americans, we created a great monster in a monster movie go us.
Speaker 2:We needed a more capitalistic monster. I think yeah yeah, next time we see godzilla in america, he's like hey, if you think about it this monster is kind of like because we have like the take-home culture with when going out to eat, you take. You know, I got the to-go box yeah, it's kind of like what he does. Yeah, save it for later oh, I'll heat it up.
Speaker 1:You know, it turns out this monster really works forever about the host monster for everyone donald trump will have it for president.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's gonna be staying up more longer this is the best monster.
Speaker 1:Elon loves the monster. Elon loves the monster. We all love the monster. Driving a Tesla, it's like here, monster, since you're the best here's a Tesla. All right, so the fine.
Speaker 2:Go please.
Speaker 1:Well, for me, what aged the best is Bong Joon-ho. We're going to continue to do some of his movies. We're definitely going to do Memoirs of a Murderer, that's like you know. I kind of think Bong Joon-ho is like the way I put him, because he does a wide variety of films, but the way his style is and like how precise he is with everything is I kind of think of him as like, uh, like a foreign director version of, like David Fincher yeah, that's how I think of him Especially with memoirs of a murderer.
Speaker 2:So I've never seen memoirs of a murder. Sounds exciting.
Speaker 1:I've seen Okja, that's also him.
Speaker 2:Oh, with the big ass, big pig, big pig thing. Yeah, that was good, I maybe fucked.
Speaker 1:That was good. That movie fucked me up. Oh yeah, it was sad. It's like damn. Did you want to see a pig rape scene? I didn't.
Speaker 2:Oh boy. Goddamn dude, Fuck me up and taking meat samples out of live animals.
Speaker 1:That sucks, that's real, it's so fucking sad.
Speaker 2:Whenever the two parents give away the baby.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the baby pig, the live animal samples. Reminds me of another thing from the office when Dwight says he's like, yeah, I got nine and three, four horses. Because he's like I have found a way to take meat out of a horse?
Speaker 2:oh no. Dwight also keeping it alive what the fuck is wrong with you, Dr Frankenstein?
Speaker 1:Yeah, too bad, it's real Too bad you can do that it does that happens, I think. I think you can do that, or maybe I'm misremembering something, I don't know. All right, well, anyways, we did that man. We really got real wild in that category.
Speaker 2:We're going to hit our next one.
Speaker 1:I'm so sad now, which is double features. It's where we recommend a movie to go alongside the host. I picked Memories of a Murder. It's not memoirs, memories of a Murder, memories by Bong Joon-ho. In a small Korean province in 1986, two detectives struggle with the case of multiple young women being found raped and murdered by an unknown culprit. It is so good. Murdered by an unknown culprit? It is so good. And something that I meant to mention about this film is that Bong Joon-ho likes to have where the cops are kind of like incompetent and like aren't doing their job correctly, and he always likes to have regular people being the ones that like save and solve things right, like in the hosts, they're the ones that find the daughter and kill the monster. So this is kind of essentially like this. This villager essentially is helping solving this case. Shot really well, it's tense, it's also got a lot of dark humor and it's fantastic. It's like Zodiac, but Korean. It's great.
Speaker 2:What do you got For a Korean? I like I was trying to think of a Korean film. It doesn't have to be Korean, but but I was trying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I failed.
Speaker 2:I didn't mean to mess you up. No, it's great. No, actually I couldn't think of anything.
Speaker 1:Um Well, if you want another monster movie, always a good one Cloverfield.
Speaker 2:You know what this monster reminded me of was the horse from Venom, the Last Dance. I haven't seen it. The Venom horse? Yeah, it's fucking sick.
Speaker 1:It's coming from a guy who hates horses. I like my horses with symbiotes on them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they got to be covered in the symbiotes and shit. Then they're fine.
Speaker 1:Did you like that movie?
Speaker 2:I didn't watch all of it, but I really did love Venom. I've never seen any of the Venom movies.
Speaker 1:The first one's fun, the second one's bad.
Speaker 2:The third one I hear is it's probably bad, but I just like the character of Venom.
Speaker 1:Venom and Tom Hardy. They're a great little love couple his voice he's so excited, little love couple.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love his voice. He's so excited about everything he's like yes, yeah, that was a good part.
Speaker 1:I did enjoy the relationship between Venom, and Eddie Brock.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I guess mine would be all the Venoms yeah watch the Venoms, even though I haven't seen them.
Speaker 1:But yeah, that's our episode on the host. Join us next week, as, uh, we're gonna be doing Super Troopers, baby fuck. Yeah, this is a favorite of Jason. He will be leading the podcast.
Speaker 2:I just told you that for the first time?
Speaker 1:um, yeah, you're gonna be doing all the notes, I guess. Hell, yeah, that's alright, I love it. Let you do it. Let Let you get your stank on it. So make sure you join us next week for that. And if you want to leave us any like comments, or you know, you want to be like yo, great job on the host. Jesse, damn, your voice sounds sexy. Go in the description and you we get the link above. Send us some fan mail, or you can go to the bottom to. We recommend mailbag at gmailcom.
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