We Recommend: A Movie Podcast
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Iron Man
"I am Iron Man." With these words, a B-list Marvel hero launched what would become the most successful film franchise in history. But back in 2008, nobody could have predicted what Iron Man would become.
This week, we dive deep into the film that started it all—exploring how Robert Downey Jr.'s perfect casting as Tony Stark created movie magic that transcended the superhero genre. What made this performance so special wasn't just RDJ's natural charisma, but how his own personal redemption story mirrored Tony's journey from weapons-dealing playboy to hero. The parallels are uncanny: a talented man hitting rock bottom, then rising from the ashes with newfound purpose.
Have you revisited Iron Man recently? We'd love to hear your thoughts on how the film holds up and what elements you think today's superhero movies might have forgotten. Leave us a review or email us at werecommendmailbag@gmail.com with your take!
Hello and welcome to the we Recommend Podcast, a movie podcast, where every week we recommend a movie for you to watch. Then come back here and listen to us discuss. I'm Jesse, I'm Jason. They say that the best weapon is the one you never have to fire. I respectfully disagree. I prefer the weapon you only have to fire once, because this week we recommend Iron man. I was trying to think of the guitar riff of Iron man and I just cannot, even though I just watched it today. So this is our first Marvel Cinematic Universe film that we've covered and it's the first one they did.
Speaker 2:I feel like it was kind of pre-marvel, kind of pre-mcu. Disney didn't own it yet. Yeah, because it started off with the paramount logo yeah that was fucking cool yeah it's kind of crazy and it's, I guess, because disney doesn own it. It was really good.
Speaker 1:It is wild and they just kind of copied, like just doing this for every character up until Avengers 1, which is great, but you know, it's this, it's fucking what's his name. Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God.
Speaker 2:Robert Downey Jr.
Speaker 1:Jesus Christ, I was actually taking notes and I was trying to write down. I was like I sat and I was like, all right, who plays iron man? Tony stark? No, that's the character. It's like I don't know whose name is, all of a sudden robert downey jr. Who's great. This is a big comeback. Well after and this is kind of perfect that we did first, uh, kiss, kiss, bang, bang, and then this, because this solidified him?
Speaker 2:was he doing this after he did or went through rehab?
Speaker 1:yeah, this was all after because kiss, kiss, bang, bang was all after rehab and him trying to get back into public size, being like I can act and I'm okay now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's how I talked well, yeah, he fucking kills it in this movie. I feel like part of the reason why it's so good is because he's so funny but, at the same time, it's not like there's no screen winking yeah not not as much as like becomes in the Marvel.
Speaker 1:Cinematic Universe, yeah and also this movie sucks without him, like it's such a generic movie. Yeah, but you know, obviously now I say that seeing all these crazy superhero movies that have gotten like bigger and louder and kind of better plot wise, but this is just like, hey, you know just a man who had some problems and now is, you know, good now, and he also has a. He's a man in a can, he's got a tin can on him. A man in a can. That's a line from the third one.
Speaker 2:It's my favorite line of the cinematic universe. I don't know. I remember seeing the third one, but I don't remember much about it. Third one, it didn't really hit as hard.
Speaker 1:To me. To me, I kind of almost like it a little bit more than this sometimes. Sometimes I watch it and I'm like this movie's it's a weird one. Well, there's like a hundred Iron man suits yeah, yeah, directed by Shane Black, who did Kiss, kiss, bang Bang oh shit nice.
Speaker 1:So movies still hold up. Yeah, I think so. I fucking love it. Yeah, it is kind of wild how it just like pumped down and it's like before you know, tony S suckers character had all the like the mcu like mumbo, jumbo, like shoved onto his shoulders.
Speaker 1:So it's just kind of like well, you know, because after what is it? Um, oh, you mean like thanos and shit. Well, like even ultron and stuff like that, and or the first first Avengers, where he goes up into space and he's like I blew up aliens and it falls down and now I got like PTSD and stuff.
Speaker 1:It's where. It's just like. It's just him just being Tony Tony Stark and there's not like 50 references to like 50 other things that have happened in the MCU. So you just can't get a very bare bones like superhero origin story. That's just like it's very focused. Yeah, and I guess, because it's kind of more of an action movie than it is just like a full on superhero thing, it's not like it doesn't get like obnoxious, really, even though I don't think so, I say all that even though I love the Marvel movies.
Speaker 2:But yeah, the Marvel movies, but yeah, they're fun.
Speaker 1:Kind of I don't know. It's just like I just it's kind of a refreshing movie, especially if you watch all of them and then you go back to this one. It's like, ah, they don't do it like this now.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah, and this is a great year for me because right after this one was, or right after this, iron man was Dark Knight in the same year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, same year and everything. What a good year. What a good year that destroyed our cinema experiences forever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what a great year for billionaires.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it completely destroyed how producers decide to make movies, and it's wonderful. Now, yay, I'm not going to try to be too negative about it. Okay, just the fact that, like, like, because of you know these movies small, we don't get comedies in theaters, or we don't, or most of the runs in theaters now are like three weeks because a new marvel movie has to come out and be on every screen.
Speaker 2:I'm okay, I'm good I think we should be fine. I think we should require billionaires to do this, just to be crime fighters.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we all have all the money it's like at one point if you want to be a billionaire, you have to get in a tank in a war torn area and you have to drive the tank and survive the mission, and it's just by yourself.
Speaker 2:Oh, you guys spend billions on making a super cool outfit. That's true. Oh, you got to spend billions on making a super cool outfit, that's true.
Speaker 1:So before I just got an ad on the IMDb page for a shirt that says I'm going to hell, do you need anything? Nice, it's kind of a cool shirt.
Speaker 2:Well, do you.
Speaker 1:Ice A couple of bags maybe some dry ice.
Speaker 2:It won't last a while, I guess. If it's coming from hell, that would be tough. Yeah, yeah, so interest rates gotta be crazy.
Speaker 1:Oh god, you know it, dude, interest is you have to cut off an arm and you know, because the movies kind of get a little bogged down and, like you know, there's so much, there's so many people in the movies, there's so much, just more and more stuff starts happening in the movies, kind of forget, like how much, like like how good. I kind of enjoy the relationship between like tony and pepper. Yeah, and it's kind of sweet, it's just kind of like classic action movie, like I'm a fuck up, you're a perfect woman.
Speaker 2:We'll'll eventually get together right Help me out, lady, she does. And I guess it's because it's Miss Goop herself yeah. She's a really good actress. There's so many stupid goop shops or whatever Bad name, could have done with some more goop. Yeah, that's the power behind Tony Stark, is that? Candle, yeah, do you think, at the end when they do a wrap party, she just hands out her vaginas and hands them to everybody, thanks.
Speaker 1:You just got one guy who's like can I have yours, can I have yours? Yes, I'm going to melt them down and do things. I'm going to sleep in it. Yeah, don't worry, don't If these goop candles could talk it. Don't if these goop candles could talk. It's got waxes too, yeah, um. So yeah, let's get into. Let's just hop into straight in some trivia. So, oh, actually, before, who's your favorite, like, what's your favorite movie in the cinematic universe marvels? Do you have a favorite? Um, and what's your favorite character?
Speaker 2:out of all. Probably, like I Probably like I think Avengers might be my favorite. The first one, the first one and then the second one was really good too. Rocket is probably my all-time favorite character. Oh yeah, rocket Raccoon.
Speaker 1:Yeah, James Gunn really made something special there. He's fucking awesome. Bradley Cooper just going all out for the voice so great. Have you ever seen videos of him like doing the voice behind the scenes? So great? Because he gets in a character and you like looking at him.
Speaker 2:It's like you shouldn't be able to make that he records it all from inside of a trash can.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just hanging out with his like other other raccoons. And now, like, because I've been watching, like I just every time there's an episode of Pawsburgers where Tina, because Tina, and like some neighbors, and Teddy or not, tina, the mom, what's the mom's name? Linda, linda, yeah, like they're obsessed with the raccoons in the back alley. Every time I see an episode I was like, damn, I wish Bradley Cooper just had a voice, one of them, or something That'd be so great. Anyways, we'll hop into some facts. This is the best fucking show I know. It's great.
Speaker 1:We've we're on our second watch through in a row, hell yeah.
Speaker 2:We have a problem at the moment. They just got renewed for three more seasons.
Speaker 1:Really Three Great Three or four.
Speaker 2:I think they're at like 15 now. Hell yeah, because like uh, bobs burgers, even um the one with the american dad is coming back and like really that's funny, the simpsons got renewed for three more seasons or something it's insane.
Speaker 1:That show will never die, that's for sure. So for our first fact for iron man, now that we're done with bobs burgers talk, which, if you want, a bo Burgers podcast, we'll do it for you?
Speaker 1:Hell, yes, so I am Iron man Great. It was ad libbed by Robert Downey Jr to end the movie. Producer Kevin Feige approved using it in the final cut of the film and credits this with his decision to largely do away with secret identities in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. This with his decision to largely do away with secret identities. In the Marvel Cinematic Universe, only Spider-Man conceals his identity, while Thor's alter ego, donald Blank Blake, is similarly not used Because he used to have like a. He's just like a guy with blue jean pants, white t-shirt and his hair like long, luscious hair. It's hilarious, like Steven Universe's dad. Yeah, I read some of the like older thor comics just whenever I had like uh, the app on my phone that let me read some of the comics. They're wacky as fuck. When anybody says like oh the uh, taika, taika, waititi movies, they're like, they're too goofy and stuff, I'm like dude, read the fucking comic books he's going back in using.
Speaker 2:They're all so goofy I remember trying to watch the cartoon the thor cartoon.
Speaker 1:I don't think I heard.
Speaker 2:No, no not thor cartoon um iron man card. Oh yeah, yeah, but that you're not talking about that no, I was talking about thor's alter ego.
Speaker 1:But no, continue with the iron man no, like I just didn't.
Speaker 2:It was after watching this movie, oh, and back in 2000, whatever, yeah, and the cartoon was like so not Robert Downey Jr.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, because they put it like this. It's weird, like the cartoons sometimes are more serious than that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a lot more serious. Especially back in the 2000s.
Speaker 1:It's like make some jokes you jerk, make me laugh, make my simple mind laugh. Um, did you ever read any comics? Not at all. Not around, really. And this is why we're not diving into the versions of these comic book characters. That's why I was just like I'm not doing research on iron man comic books, because I didn't read them either. Probably a lot. I tried to read some, you know, whenever I was getting into comics, when all these movies were out, um, and I was just like meh.
Speaker 2:The only comic book I ever had growing up was I had one punisher comic book hell, yeah, it was the shit I did.
Speaker 1:I didn't read some like a punisher series, usually with marvel. I only read some spider-man's punishers and, uh, moon knights, because I really like moon knight, I like the Moon Knight show. I was mainly a DC boy. I read comics Flash, batman, you know all that shit Boo, superman, whatever. So the script was not completely finished when filming began, since the filmmakers were more focused on the story and the action, so the dialogue was mostly ad lib throughout the filming.
Speaker 1:Director Jon Favreau acknowledged this made the film feel more natural. Some scenes were shot with two cameras to capture lines improvised on the spot. Robert Downey Jr would ask for as many takes on one scene, since he wanted to try something new. Gwyneth Paltrow, on the other hand, had a difficult time trying to match Downey with a suitable line, as she never knew what he would say. Oh, yeah. So essentially they're just like what Judd Apatow was doing and what's his name that did, like Step Brothers and all that. They're essentially seeing that, but superhero version Nice, and it's just funny to hear that. Versus now how they film their movies, where everything is so meticulous Right, especially the action scenes and stuff. There's a formula yeah, like they're made before they even have a director, I think, sometimes, which is crazy.
Speaker 2:I think, yeah, it does add a lot of authenticity to the movie and you can kind of notice that Robert Downey Jr is rebounding and becoming a megastar again, and he's fucking killing it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's crushing it. He's like I'm just gonna be my weird. He's trying yeah it's so good and it is kind of crazy just to see how, like director john favreau, who you know he was like in swingers, you know he's in some friends stuff and he did elf so this is our second john favreau movie and they just created this whole thing themselves, that with Feige, kevin Feige, the producer.
Speaker 1:But it's kind of weird how, just like these two these two guys nobody was really talking about at the time just kind of created, you know, one of the biggest, you know, franchises in the history of the planet.
Speaker 2:I can't wait for the Iron man Oscar. The Grouch team up, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Robert Downey Jr is like I'm a man in a can.
Speaker 2:Oscar comes up me too, but I'm angry all the damn time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's got a dark night voice and it'd just be great because I get to see Tony Stark just sipping some coffee or something, throwing it in the trash can and Oscar's like I'll be back for you. Coffee or something thrown in the trash can and oscar's like I'll be back for you. Um, so director john favreau wanted robert downey jr because he felt the actor's past was right for the part he commented. The best and worst moments of robert's life have been in the public eye. He had to find an inner balance to overcome obstacles that went went far beyond his career. That's tony stark. Robert brings a depth that goes beyond a comic book character having trouble in high school or can't get the girl. Bavaro also felt downey could make stark a likable asshole, also depict an authentic emotional journey once he won the audience completely correct.
Speaker 2:It is a like a cool redemption story. Yeah, yeah, it's great. He kind of takes matters into his own hands, yes, and doesn't like go out and advertise. You know, he doesn't like start a, uh, non-profit or whatever like uh and embezzle the funds yeah let's make an iron man suit. That'd be kind of cool if it was kind of crowd-sourced.
Speaker 1:Iron man suit, be fun like people like hey here, take some of this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like here, take my money and just put like, put my name on your arm. Oh yeah, so like sponsor deals.
Speaker 1:Got Pennzoil on the right arm, dude wipes on the left, yeah. No on the crotch, That'd be the best. Be like Go Daddy on the front of the chest. Hell yeah, man Then.
Speaker 2:Disney Plus right on the face mask.
Speaker 1:That'd be amazing. Yeah, I'd enjoy that. That'd be great. That wouldn't be like everything that's wrong with the world. It's like, get ready, iron man is a NASCAR driver now, essentially. So just two more facts. So Jeff Bridges said he felt really uncomfortable not having a script or rehearsals, since normally he felt very prepared and knows his lines word for word, realizing it wasn't like he was in a 200 million dollar. Realizing it was like he was in a 200 million dollar student film, he said, took the pressure off him and made it fun. That's cool. He looks so huge.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, do you think he had to wear like implants?
Speaker 1:I think it's because he had no hair. Yeah, so he just makes you look bigger. His hair does add a lot. I'm sure he probably worked out a little bit.
Speaker 2:He kind of looks like Mr Big, like from the Flash, not the Flash, daredevil, daredevil. What was that guy's name? The big?
Speaker 1:dude, kingpin, kingpin. Yeah, that's a men in black, villain, vincent D'Onofrio. Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh. And so one last thing. So just before the final press conference, tony Stark is reading the newspaper paper with a grainy, amateur photograph of Iron man on the cover. The picture is actually part of a video shot by onlookers hiding in the bush during initial filming that appeared on the internet in 2007. That's cool.
Speaker 2:What a fucking dope ass move I also like the in the, the scene where he's putting his new when he gets back from the cave and he's building his new chest magnet. Hell yeah, and like you see, I'm putting it in but it's like from a grainy, kind of like shitty point of view, instead of like this whole sequence.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, because it's like the CTV's camera that the like Afghanisans have.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like in the cave, yeah, yeah, it's just like really they're just doing stuff that like people would do in like action movies in the 2000s. You know, and it can really feel it and it makes you kind of nostalgia for all those like very mediocre action movies that like we didn't appreciate because, I don't know, they're like better than most action movies that come out now and it's like, oh cool, there wasn't a billion CGI and even this movie has like pretty decent CGI. There's some parts with fire that it struggles with, especially in that cave scene. I'm like yikes, yay, yay, yay. Oh. One last fact so Terrence Howard plays Rhodey War Machine. He does not appear in the next film because he wanted too much money. He said I'm the bankable star here.
Speaker 2:He had like hustle and flow.
Speaker 1:He's like he's kind of in a lot of big movies around this time and they were like buh-bye, we're gonna get don cheadle, so it comes back in the third one. He's very cowed it would be great if he came back as like a villain for like a like a vendors movie. It's like everybody's like wait, who are you? I'm in a different alternate universe. Blah, and Leslie Bibb plays the.
Speaker 1:It's like the reporter yeah, she's in the newest she's in the newest season of White Lotus and she's great in it. She's married to Sam Rockwell, he's also in White Lotus season 3, but is also a villain in Iron man 2. So just kind of a lot of like Villains Putting things together here you know, villains, get all the girls. Yeah, villains always win. The villains win baby, as Green Day said, nice guys, finish last Wait.
Speaker 2:What is that?
Speaker 1:because they allow the other person to finish first, because they're not selfish oh so maybe villains not so villainous after all to goopy pajamas, yikes, wish I didn't say that that's weird oh, why didn't they have?
Speaker 2:why don't they have a girl? Why didn't pepper become iron maiden, be fucking sick.
Speaker 1:That's a way better name, but she did become. She became an Iron Woman, like she gets a suit in Avengers Endgame, remember, yeah, or what do they call?
Speaker 2:her. I can't remember, was it a pink suit?
Speaker 1:no, it's like a. What's her name? Rescue? Her name is Rescue. Oh lame, it's a blue and gold suit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I thought, but I thought War Machine was the blue, but he's kind of just steel he's gray.
Speaker 1:He's grayish like gunmetal pretty cool and he's got a hell of a lot more big weapons on him.
Speaker 2:they should have given Rescue a guitar and said your new name is Iron Maiden. We don't give a fuck about what the comic books say.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that would be rad. She's just like, and she has like a miniature version of, like, the little guy that plays guitar in the Fury Road movie. Yeah, so when she's running around, the guy's like That'd be pretty sick, I'd be down for that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's gonna be super goth with spikes everywhere. Yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 1:So I'm trying to think. So let's say phase one right. Phase one was Iron man, iron man 2, the first Thor, captain America, the first Avenger and Avengers. So I guess you said like your Avengers was like your favorite. So out of the four movies like Iron man, iron man 2, thor and Dingback Captain America movie, which one's your favorite? Out of those? Probably the first.
Speaker 2:Iron man Same yeah. Actually, I did enjoy the other ones.
Speaker 1:I thought I think they it really could have. Oh wait, you also have the first hulk movie.
Speaker 2:I forgot the forgotten and the incredible hulk. Is that the one with edward norton? Edward, norton.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that one was badass. I love that one. That one is straight up like a just a damn mediocre action movie and I love it. It it's so good. It's funny because that one's like always considered one of the worst ones, and I actually kind of love that movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I do too.
Speaker 1:I mean the Hulk kind of looks like a little silly. They haven't got like the. Oh, we just put Edward Norton's face on Hulk, like they did with Mark Ruffalo.
Speaker 1:yet but there's something that's I really love, that Incredible Hulk it's actually. It probably for me goes Iron man, incredible Hulk, incredible Norton. And then you know, I'm like one of the everybody kind of loves the first Avenger, like Captain America, the first Avenger. I kind of think it's like a wet blanket for me. There's some parts in it that I love, but for the most part I'm just like get this fucking Boy Scout out of my face dude fucking dweeb, I thought it was.
Speaker 2:I did like the parts where he was the little scrawny kid before he became. Yeah, he looked so fucking bad. He's so fat, yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know that was actually directed by the guy that directed Rocketeer nice.
Speaker 2:You know that movie I saw it as a child. Yeah, I watched a lot as a kid. I don't remember anything about it, except they had a jetpack.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's about it. And uh, that thor movie, uh, it's got some funny parts, but man, it's just, it's just straight down the line and this is the most mediocre movie I've ever seen.
Speaker 2:This got my girl yeah, which one?
Speaker 1:ali portman, yes, yeah, she's great, she's awesome. Uh, and the first Avengers still holds up. Really love that movie. It's fun to watch it sometimes. Oh yeah, it's so fucking cool.
Speaker 2:Loki's great in it you know, the action all holds up, vin Diesel.
Speaker 1:I am Groot. Oh wait, no, Not yet.
Speaker 2:The first Avengers.
Speaker 1:It's like Loki's the bad, not um Guardians, yeah.
Speaker 2:I get those mixed up. Did you mean to say Guardians was like your? Favorite of those movies Guardians yeah, guardians are my favorite too. That's my favorite. That's what I meant. They're the best they let a.
Speaker 1:They let a director be himself and he made three perfect movies. So listen up, marvel. You can't fucking do anything right anymore. Boring ass movies you keep making. Just give it a break rethink something they can't they're trying. They're trying to rethink, but they have to just keep producing shit, yeah they're like wait nobody cares for our TV shows. Uh oh, what do we do? And then all our movies are getting bad reviews because people are like where are you going with all this? And they're like yikes, we don't know, we don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Guardians 3 and Love and Thunder. I enjoyed it. Guardians 3 is like the best movie they made since Endgame Guardians 3?.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's where. That's where the raccoon's in the. When he go back to his origin, he gets put in prison. Yeah, yeah, that was fucked up.
Speaker 1:It was cool, though. Made me cry hard. Oh those animals, honestly hard. Oh those animals, honestly, all three make me cry hard. Fucking rocky, like picks up a twig, I'm like. Or when they're all holding hands in the circle and then like the mom comes up and it's like, because everybody says piter, it's funny, I was like start to cry it's like friendship, fucking friendship, save the galaxy it was hard, like when he saw his mom die and he walked out of the room he was too afraid.
Speaker 1:It's great. Well, hey, you know that's our Marvel talk. We really haven't done it, kind of just want to eventually do like a special ranking episode of all the Marvel movies like me, you like Dakota, maybe like one of our other friends doing it, it'll be, fun be a really long podcast, a lot of yelling, because I have a feeling I like the movies that some people don't like.
Speaker 1:I have them higher up in my rankings than some people do. Nice, all right, you want to get into the plot of I Am Iron man? I, literally I cannot think of the song whatsoever because it's all vibrated out of me from mowing, all right. So Iron man 2008, directed by Jon. Think of the song whatsoever because it's all vibrated out of me from mowing, all right.
Speaker 1:So iron man 2008 directed by john favreau, starring robert downey jr. So the film starts we have a military convoy back in blacks playing hell yeah, love the old music in it. Tony is drinking and ends up making the military nervous. And then they like, starts making jokes, relaxes, relaxes him, hits on the driver, who's a girl, uh, then takes a picture with him and just like how are you?
Speaker 1:yeah, that's like immediately how you should know. Oh, we're in good hands here, no gangstas, nah, just go ahead and do it. But then, boom giant, they're like they're just all attacked by some rockets, tony's blown up by his own weapons and then he's kidnapped.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that sucked seeing his name on it before he gets exploded.
Speaker 1:He's like what I didn't know, oh no, what have?
Speaker 2:I done.
Speaker 1:It's okay if my weapons kill people that aren't Americans.
Speaker 2:Do you think that travel they only have three vehicles right, three or four something like that. I feel like if you're, if you got a billionaire with you and you're in enemy territory, you're gonna get shaken down. Yeah, there, there'd be a lot more people with them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he wouldn't just be like one person and then like a few, a few other companies. You need something big. Yeah, it'd be like there'll be helicopters in the air. He'd probably be flying. He wouldn't be driving in the middle of the desert in like a war-torn country, yeah.
Speaker 1:So then we cut to, kind of like a a narration of robert downey jr. Uh, not robert downey jr, tony stark. We learned that he's a playboy and genius. His name's tony stark. He has inherited the defense contract stark industries from his father, the legendary howard stark. Uh, tony was a brilliant from the beginning and built his first circuit board when he was just four years old. His first engine at the age of six. Graduated from MIT at 17. We learned that his father died in a car accident. Soon thereafter, obadiah Stan dope ass name, took over the company till Tony returned to take over at the age of 21. Accompanied, till Tony returned to take over at the age of 21. Tony has subsequently unleashed an array of smart weapons that have changed the face of conflict forever. And so, yeah, he's a boy genius, essentially A Wunderkin.
Speaker 2:It'd be really funny if, during this little part where they're showing pictures of him as a child, putting together computers but he also photoshopped giving bill gates a wedgie, or like, yeah, duncan like giving jeff bezos a swirly.
Speaker 1:I just assumed jeff bezos been bald since he was a baby, so just like doesn't really affect him as much as it usually does.
Speaker 1:Give it up a noogie, yeah with no hair oh it's just like sorry for all our people out there. That was rude. So, uh, tony wins an award. He doesn't show up because he's gambling, though, and hitting on ladies. Um, and then suddenly, as he's leaving the thing, this is also where we first meet roadie. We see sebastian stan for the first time. Um, roadie's like dude, what the fuck? Show up next time, and he's like making him uncomfortable because he's like come on party with me, gamble or whatever, and ask him to blow on his dice.
Speaker 1:He doesn't he lets him fly, yeah, and then it's like two ones, which I guess is bad right, yeah do you want a?
Speaker 2:seven, I don't know well, you do, but if you do it, five. I think there's a rule where, like if you roll too many sevens in a row, you have to do a snake eyes to keep going. I don't know I don't gamble.
Speaker 1:Gambling doesn't make sense to me. Cards make sense, not dice. And then all of a sudden he's a journalist. Christine Everhart, played by Leslie Bidd, confronts Tony in Vegas and presents evidence that his company is selling weapons to terrorists and are being used to subjugate native defenseless populations across the globe. And then he essentially sweet talks her and says ah, no comments whatever. And Tony has sex with Christine. Yeah, they fall over on the bed and it's kind of funny.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then you get the fun scene in the morning when Pepper Potts comes in Walking around like his windows, have like constantly have like holographic hologram screens essentially yeah, it's like what people see is future tech, which is just annoying to me.
Speaker 1:I'm like I don't want to look at that on my window. Just like get rid of it.
Speaker 2:I'm cool with a voice talking. Have you seen the floors that look like you're on a beach? Uh-uh, like they're like Whoa. Yeah, I guess they're like glass or something and then they project it looks like you're walking on a beach or something.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's cool. Yeah, I'd like that one time. So then Christine meets Pepper Potts. It's Tony's personal assistant and they run into each other.
Speaker 2:It's awkward she's like I do whatever he requires, including take out the trash.
Speaker 1:Get out of here, bitch it's like it's a bit rude, oh, because she's kind of being like rude to Pepper a little bit kind of sucks that they made her character, the reporter character, kind of like rude and scummy and it's just like I don't know. I guess that's just how they view reporters, those 2000s.
Speaker 2:Reporters will do anything and get a story, but now we're all like we fucking need reporters to do their job Any good one, any good one.
Speaker 1:And we also were hearing Jarvis for the first time, which played by Paul Bettany, who will soon be seen as that fucking robot guy.
Speaker 2:I don't remember his name With the cape.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, can't remember his name off the top of my head.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I can't even remember his name.
Speaker 1:Bitchin' fuck what's his name? Name I gotta do. He looks like.
Speaker 2:Megamind yeah oh, bettany something like Stoney. Vision Blaze Vision that's what it is cool gonna have to edit around that, uh.
Speaker 1:But he starts personal AI system. Uh, Pepper goes down to see Tony. Who who's like doing building the motor or whatever. Pepper's trying to hurry him off. We see that it's her B-day, her birthday. He's like did you give me, did I get you anything? He's like yes, it was very tasteful. Oh, thank you, Because she just like uses money to get herself something which is great, Very funny.
Speaker 1:You can already tell there's a little bit of chemistry between them, and so he's got to go off. This is essentially going to be taking him to the Afghanistan thing, yeah, to the beginning of the movie Tony and Happy. Tony's like racing off and Happy's trying to like stay behind him Jon Favreau's character and he's like, hey, you almost did pretty good, well, you beat me. He's like, yep, I did. Then Tony and his friend James Rhodes Rhodey argue on the plane because he's like you're never early, I waited for three hours.
Speaker 1:Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah and then they start partying I guess all the flight attendants. There's a stripper pole in the middle of the plane.
Speaker 1:They're all just like tied their uh flight attendants shirts up and like they're just dancing in front of them. Tony's watching while roadies is like he's drunk. Drunk, yeah, it's great, so fun. So now tony is in a war torn afghanistan with his friend and military liaison, james rhodes, to demonstrate the new jericho missile. Great, great name. Rhodes and Tony are very good friends. We see, I don't know why I'm saying all this, even though we just explained it. I went straight for my notes.
Speaker 2:How did they become? Did they work together? A lot selling stuff to the military, I guess. So he's like his military contact.
Speaker 1:Something. I wish I read the comics so I could explain, but I have no idea. So we learned the Jericho missile incorporates the new repulsor technology and can deliver explosive payloads and multiple targets with a single missile over a badass missile, relatively large combat area area. Yeah, it's great. And this is where we get the line. They say that the best weapon is the one you never have to fire. I respectfully disagree. I prefer the weapon you only have to fire once. That's how dad did it, that's how america does it and it worked out pretty well so far. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he delivers the hell out of that line yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And the missile is great because it just like yeah it's like a thousand targets and like shoots a bunch more and it's like and then he stands with his arms open.
Speaker 1:The wind was awesome it's great, great, yeah, the little machine that pours a drink, yeah and then we're cutting to the beginning of the movie, where stark is critically wounded in an ambush. Um, this is where he notices that his weapons were being used and he's imprisoned in a cave by a terrorist group called the tin rings bum, bum, bum. Don't know what the fuck they are. No, they're just this group Terrorists. And by using electromagnetic like little thing in his chest, powered by a heavy car battery built by fellow captive Jensen.
Speaker 2:Who is a fucking hero in this movie? Yeah, this guy's great.
Speaker 1:I kind of love him. He's like a nice wisdom guy in the middle of the movie Keeps the shrapnel that wounded Stark from reaching his heart and killing him. So like whenever he got exploded like you just see, like his shirt like filling up with blood, yeah, which is really hella cool.
Speaker 2:I guess because of the shrapnel from the missile. Yeah, it gets inside your body and stays there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, god damn, and I love when he wakes up he like pulls that tube out of his nose.
Speaker 2:It's like really far in there.
Speaker 1:I'm like is that how far it's supposed to go? I feel like it's far enough. It gags you when it pulls you.
Speaker 1:I can't talk about gagging again. We did that in that one episode, I don't even remember it. So yeah, tony sees Jensen shaving the Ten Rings leader Raza, I think is how he says it has like one of his cronies, like, essentially, go in and offer Stark freedom in exchange for building a Jericho missile for the group. But Tony and Yinsen agree. Raza will not keep his word. Yinsen tells Tony that his weapon in the hands of terrorists is a legacy, is is his legacy to the world. Essentially, just like laying it on thick, that like, hey, bro, bro, you know you should probably do better because you're just known for death, death, it's great. Which, apparently, uh, later on we figure out that, uh, his father helped build the nuke, the first nuke, oh shit. And it's funny that robert downey jr won his first oscar for opp. Oh damn Fun. That's kind of cool. It all comes around. So Tony and Yen Sing use the components from other missiles. Does he play his?
Speaker 2:dad in Oppenheimer, it's Tony Stark's father.
Speaker 1:That's what I like to think the fictional character he was secretly the whole time in his head. I'm playing my father from Iron man. Can't wait till.
Speaker 1:My son is Iron man, yeah, but they use components from other missiles and extract palladium, precious metal, from it. They use the limited forge facilities available to them to work meticulously. Stark and Jensen secretly build a powerful electric generator called an arc reactor, and we learned that Tony had a large arc reactor back home powering his factory and he built a miniaturized version of it to power Stark's electromagnetic thing and hole in his chest essentially.
Speaker 1:To keep the metal from his heart? Yeah, instead of a bulky battery. And then begins to build a suit of armor. Love just the fucking hole in his chest it's so sick.
Speaker 1:It's great. I can't wait to get to the pepper pots. Having to replace it again. It's. That's a good scene, um, and then like the whole time that they start building like the uh armor and stuff, like he's his first iron man suit, it's fun to watch the bad guys trying to figure out what he's doing, so like they're looking at the missile and like what the fuck is he making? This doesn't look like that at all. Very good bit. And then in the middle of building Raza I'm assuming I'm saying it's R-A-Z-A.
Speaker 2:I'm just gonna say Raza.
Speaker 1:Raza pays him a visit and then he threatens to brand Jensen, I guess, or just put the whole spike through his face, not sure. But Stark is able to stop him from doing it. But saying he needs him, raza says he has by the next day to get the missile done. It's like, hey, man, like have a little bit of patience.
Speaker 1:I'm just like we're two people building a missile out of other missiles. It's like give us a break. So Tony gets to work, we get the iconic hammer smashing on the, which is like one of the last thing you hear in end game, because at the very end you just hear the ding, ding, nice, I didn't recognize that. And then, like we all cry. So now it's the next day and it's time to lock and load by locking your body in an Iron man suit.
Speaker 1:In an iron coffin. Yeah, um, so the suit's very basic design.
Speaker 2:It's super heavy that must have been there.
Speaker 1:I mean not in the cave, because that was probably like how much money would you like give to like be in one of these suits? Just I don't know, but I mean I'd be like you can have my house if I can just like play with it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, I'll just use a bunch of banks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, use it to find ways to get money.
Speaker 2:Crush the United States government or your boot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I just love how like DIY this suit looks, even with its weapons, because it's got like a flamethrower that, like this, is constantly on, like right next to his hand, like don't watch out out, some rocket thusters at the base of, like his feet, which is great, and like when it goes off, it's just like has no control over anything, and with the arc reactor the shoot can be powered for 15 minutes. So then we have it where the 10 like they're suiting them up and the 10 rings are starting to come through the door. They got it rigged with a bomb and whenever they push it open, it explodes and Jensen sacrifices himself to divert them, while Stark's suit powers up because they got it like connected. It's got a power up through the laptop, I guess.
Speaker 2:I don't know the technology it's like damn it.
Speaker 1:I got four hours of updates just connected to the wi-fi. Yeah, it's like. Anytime I, for whatever reason, I, turn on my ps3, it's like, bro, you're behind, just wait, wait, give me a minute. Yeah, um, but yeah, so he essentially dies. Uh, it sucks. The armored Stark battles his way out of the cave to find dying Jensen, who gives him the essentially the line that changes Tony Stark's life Don't waste your life.
Speaker 2:It's great.
Speaker 1:Then, enraged Stark, burns the terrorist munitions and flies away out of a huge explosion which fucking rules, only to crash in the desert destroying the suit. It's such a good scene. Yeah, it was awesome. It's great. It's just like it's because it's so bulky and just like barbaric looking. It's perfect and it kind of looks goofy, which is what I like about it too.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah, because the big old head and it's not even covering all of his body parts.
Speaker 1:Really, it's only just the front, which ends up being a problem for Obadiah Stan later in the movie, which is great, all right. So Stark is now wandering through the desert. Then, conveniently, is found by Rhodes. Uh, rhodey and all them.
Speaker 2:It's like okay, cool, well maybe honestly, if you just waited a few minutes, they might have found you.
Speaker 1:It's like have you just been walking for like a month.
Speaker 2:They just got there and they see him flying away. Fuck, let's go get him. Let's get him sheesh they see him flying away.
Speaker 1:Fuck, let's go get him. Let's get him, sheesh. So, after being rescued by Rhodes, stark returns home, greeted by Happy and Pepper and asked for a cheeseburger and to have a press conference, that's the first thing I would ask. No, I want a cheeseburger not a press conference.
Speaker 2:I want to be like.
Speaker 1:I want to sleep yeah, In a bed, for I want to sleep in a bed For real, it's like. Also, is there any sort of surgery I can have to get the shrapnel out of me? Yeah have you seen this huge hole in my chest? Since you know like we have super smart doctors here, I feel like somebody can fix this.
Speaker 2:I feel like he probably did better than anybody.
Speaker 1:Yeah for real, I don't know. And I love the little like interaction Tony and Pepper have. They're very sweet together. Because he's like, she's kind of like he says something and like her eyes are red and it's like oh, what'd you? I don't know some little clever line that I didn't put down, but he's like, it's like oh, you didn't quit, did you? He's like no, it's impossible to find a job or something like that. Then Phil Coulson approaches Pepper to debrief Tony on how he escaped. She's like just shoo, shoo, get the fuck out of here. And then Tony begins to press conference on the floor. It's great, he's like everybody else on the floor too. Let's make it low key. It's great, everybody get together. He's eating a cheeseburger in it and where he then brings up how he never got to say goodbye to his father, it's like oh shit, now we're bringing emotions in.
Speaker 1:How did he die uh car crash. His father died in a car crash, but we'll see later in the movies, it was something else. Yeah, it was a spoiler, spoiler, spoiler, the winter soldier no shit. Yeah, it's a civil war. It's all about that. That's where, that's why they start fighting each other yeah, so he announces that his company will no longer longer manufacture weapons.
Speaker 1:Oh, but uh stan, his father's old partner and company he's like yo advises stark that this may ruin stark industries and his father father's legacy. And I love that because you know he gets on up on the stadium podium he's like, oh, we'll talk to you guys later, we're gonna go have a private meeting and then we cut to him on a segway. So this is giant bald guy just like on a segway. Just you can't look cool on a segway. If Paul Blart, the mall cop, has told me anything nobody looks cool on a segway ride.
Speaker 1:You can barely outrun a chihuahua the first five minutes of paul blart mock-up has one of the best jokes. It's whenever he's just like he's going to work and he's on his segway and he's like going and there's this tiny chihuahua barking at him. Then he turns around he's like, oh god, it's so funny. The rest of the movie I I barely remember at all, but I will always remember the first five minutes I remember that, and I remember the parts where the people come in Parkour guys.
Speaker 2:Yeah the parkour robbers Such a movie of its time. Extreme sports.
Speaker 1:It will forever make me think of that movie every time I see a Segway. So Tony reveals to Stan that he has built a new miniaturized arc reactor. The reactor has the power to provide clean energy to the entire planet.
Speaker 2:So did he build the first one, or was that a dad that built the first one?
Speaker 1:That was him and Stan. They're just like. It was kind of like a publicity stunt, they said essentially, and the fact that he was able to build that in his chest, stan's like, or Obadiah, whatever he's like, oh well, all right, let's get some time. We're going to have to figure out how to slow roll this and tell it to the press and everything. And he seems like he's on board. You know, like you know, he's also a good guy. I definitely don't think he'll end up being the bad guy.
Speaker 2:I guess he kind of took over the father figure role for Tony.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because he took over the business until Tony was fit to run it. Right, right, right yeah. So then we cut to Tony. In his workshop, tony has built a better arc reactor and Pepper needs to help him replace it.
Speaker 2:It's kind of an insane thing to watch in a Marvel movie, right, yeah, like the inside of it looks like it's just an empty metal, can?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it just looks like a little well in the middle of his chest.
Speaker 2:You know, there's all kinds of that goopy stuff in there. No pun intended.
Speaker 1:I guess it has to be something that contains the magnet that was in there, so it wouldn't be electrocuting him the whole time. I love it because she puts her hand in it and it's just like oh, it's gooey, there's pus. It's like it's not pus, it's goop. Or she like pulls it out, like that's where she got the goop idea. Yes, it's like oh, there's, it's goopy in here.
Speaker 2:It's like, oh, just like having like smell flashes of her like vagina all over the place like what if I lit my vagina on fire? Wait vagina candles, do you think? I know, I'd like to think that she was looking at it in the mirror and she's like everybody needs to have this yeah, everyone needs my vagina in their house.
Speaker 1:Sorry, gwyneth, it was just a fucking crazy thing that you did. You're such a great actress, why did you make me? I don't know, man, I'm interested yeah, just spend like $500 and you can have it. Um, really, but yeah, I don't know. I'm assuming because it's her an actress with, like these, you know, pseudoscience, shit that it's gonna be very expensive.
Speaker 1:Um, but I do love it where she's like alright, you see that that little like wire, pull it out. And he's like and then she's like just keep pulling, don't pull out the magnet Magnet comes out. It's like ah, um, but she successfully helps them and puts it in and uh, it's a very cute thing, Uh, and yeah, he says that uh, thanks, Like thanks pepper, and says I don't he could have gone to a hospital. Yeah, you know. I guess he wants it to all be secretive.
Speaker 1:He doesn't want anybody else to be a part of this, I guess right now nobody knows he has a little circle thing in his chest, except for Stan and Gwyneth or Pepper.
Speaker 2:Sorry, so do you think they had to take him out of his?
Speaker 1:breastbone, I guess. So they would have had to. Yeah, I guess they just drilled a damn hole in it.
Speaker 2:It's one of those drills where you know it has the bit that's like a huge circle.
Speaker 1:I used to love using those as a kid. Can?
Speaker 2:you imagine there's all the stuff coming out, or like when you pull it out and it comes with like a perfectly cylindrical shaped lump of flesh.
Speaker 1:It just like to me. It feels like you can't like ever bend. The way I'm sitting in my chair, bending over slyly has to just be extremely painful. So in his homework shop, stark starts work on an improved version of his suit called Mark II that he is keeping secret. I love it. I don't love it because he pulls up the hologram of this thing and he's got a trash can a hologram trash can next to it.
Speaker 1:He just keeps pushing it, throwing it down. I'm like who would want this? It'd be cool for a second. And then I'd just be like, just give me a fucking computer, okay, yeah, I love how he the world's most advanced weapon in like 30 seconds. Yeah, he says, oh, take this out, take this out. Oh, now it's perfect current gold, yeah, all day. And then, uh, we see razar finding his first version of the suit in the desert. Um, tony begins work where his robots are constantly messing up and helping him.
Speaker 2:I love the like little puppy dog robots. Essentially I.
Speaker 1:I love it. No, you idiot. And then Tony gets like these prototype boots on and Tony, like tests trying to fly, burns his cars there's too much thrust and it just like fires them back and then his robot just like extinguishes him so great. And then Stan visits Tony and tells him the board wants to block him out of the company. And he's like Tony gets all pissed and Stan wants the specs of the arc reactor, but Tony doesn't want to give him any of the info. He's like you know what I'm out of here? And then Obadiah is like give me that pizza, then take two slices. It's a little funny bit. It adds to their character that are friendly.
Speaker 2:But yeah, we know what's going to happen. A lot of the humor is very character building and useful.
Speaker 1:And it's like that little pizza bit's like oh, obviously this is like your uncle type of relationship here, Uncle Obi, you can tell that they really know each other to that point where they're going to have this fight and still just be like we're making a slight joke at the end here.
Speaker 2:Really ties the room together yeah.
Speaker 1:Pizza really ties the room together. So Tony tests out the flying again and is successful, even though he has a hard time controlling it, burning all of his cars, oh yeah. And then, like, he's able to land and the robots ready to like fire a string or something he's like don't.
Speaker 1:And then he's like, oh, so good, so he is ready to take the suit out for a drive in his all gray slim suit. Now he flies out of his shop. Jarvis is like don't you want to test a little bit more? He's like hey, it's better to go out for a run.
Speaker 1:No it's not safe listen to your friend hey, this is what makes Tony great. He's good. It makes him good and bad, which is something that the later films realized were like hey, this is who Tony is. He's like headstrong and just does shit without thinking about it. So he's able to fly around and because it's Tony, he wants to fly as high as he can and he eventually freezes up and loses control, but is able to break the ice and then gain control again. It's pretty dope. He's falling. He freezes up and loses control, but is able to break the ice and then gain control again. It's pretty dope Lying up in the ice. He's falling. Yeah, he's like oh shit, jarvis, jarvis. So how do you feel about whenever he's like in a suit and you know, like when it's his face, like all these like things pop up in his suit, like shows, like the Ferris wheel, and like explains what it is? I'd get this stuff out of my face.
Speaker 2:How am I supposed to concentrate? That's a lot of info in your face. Yeah, I'm just like man, Just like having your phone all the time.
Speaker 1:I forgot that, like all the computer stuff, is kind of annoying in these movies.
Speaker 2:Maybe he's got like ADHD, because sometimes that just helps you concentrate.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm assuming Having a little distraction over here.
Speaker 2:Because he's like. He's like watching Minecraft videos while someone else is talking.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's me, Like I'm editing, playing a game and watching YouTube. So if you have any issues with the edit of our podcast, I'm sorry. It's really. It's how my brain works.
Speaker 2:It's how it all started. I mean, that's the same year, like was it 2008 when iPhones first came out, or is it 2007? It's seven.
Speaker 1:I thought it was between 6 and 8.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then, immediately when iPhones come out, attention like our attention becomes the most valued commodity in the world. Yeah, so I don't know. That's kind of interesting.
Speaker 1:June 29th 2007,. The first iPhone, nice, and they looked dope.
Speaker 2:I'm shaking my head.
Speaker 1:I still have mine in a box. I think Natalie used to have an iPhone 3. I wonder if she still has it. They're just kind of rounded but bulky.
Speaker 2:Bricky.
Speaker 1:And then he's ending the flight and he says like kill power over his house, and he just falls straight through it all and then his robot gets extinguished. Yeah, Hell yeah.
Speaker 2:It'd be funny if there were a bunch of them.
Speaker 1:And then he cleans up. He walks into his shop and Pepperpot apparently has placed the original reactor inside of a small glass showcase that reads Poof Tony has a heart Very sweet.
Speaker 1:So then we see Rezar trying to reassemble Tony's Mark I suit. So then we see Rosara trying to reassemble Tony's Mark I suit. Tony then decides to paint his suit and adds gold and red and it looks rad as fuck Really. Yeah, wish it was more yellow. Yeah, I like the old comics where it's very yellow, but that's just because I'm weird. Then Tony on TV sees there's a party wait, like Wolverine yellow. Yeah, it was like that, it was like bright yellow, okay. Yeah. Tony sees there's a party on the TV and decides to go because it's his party technically. When he gets there, phil Coulson sees him and asks to debrief him. He says he will schedule that at some point and also, like, whenever first gets there, obadiah's there and he's like, hey, what the fuck are you doing here?
Speaker 2:you weren't invited. You weren't supposed to be here like I'm just stretching my legs.
Speaker 1:Um, he sees pepper and goes to talk to her. She's like all done up in this, like nice dress. Um, he's definitely got the hots for her and it's cute we're dancing, she's like do you even know your social security number?
Speaker 2:Yeah right, seven, seven.
Speaker 1:And she's like, she's nervous. And she's like I just realized that I'm dancing with my boss and I'm not wearing deodorant in my backless dress. She's nervous that everybody's going to judge them because the way he is with girls she goes in for a kit or they kind of both go in for a kiss but then they don't boo. Everybody should kiss if you like each other, just kiss. So then he goes to get her a drink because they both need drinks now because, uh, you know, they tried to kiss each other. Uh, then the reporter, chris christine everhart, shows up and informs him that Stark Industries weapons, including the Jericho, were recently delivered to the Ten Rings and are being used to attack Jensen's home village. And if we know one thing, don't fuck with Tony's best friend.
Speaker 2:Yeah, don't fuck with Jensen. Yeah, that boy Got.
Speaker 1:Tony's heart.
Speaker 2:He really does have his heart, yeah, in a jar.
Speaker 1:And then we learn that Tony also learns that Stan is trying to replace him as head of company. He's like who do you think fucking introduced this to the board? And he's like I'm mad, I'm going to kill people in my suit. So Stark dons his new armor that automatically forms around him, which is sick.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah, it's the best shit.
Speaker 1:So this I can put my notes I want to get here. So do you like prefer this, where it's just kind of like coming all around them and all the robots putting it on there, or do you prefer his like nanotechnology shit that they do like in game and stuff?
Speaker 2:I mean that that part is cool. I kind of like I like the.
Speaker 1:It's too like new, the little nanotech stuff, and I feel like like, all right, we're getting hella silly at least, yeah, at least having his little robot dressing room.
Speaker 1:That's kind of realist, I mean it's on the verge of like realism kind of like that could possibly I know they're just trying to get to the point where they're like all right, how do we make it where he doesn't? He can just have the suit anywhere anytime, which I really like the suitcase suit. He had an iron man too. That was kind of cool, um, but I don't know. Nothing to me beats this where he's just standing in a room and like robots are putting yeah, a robot suit on him.
Speaker 2:It was with the nanotech stuff, it's. It's almost like he could just like inject that into his body.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like just become an Iron.
Speaker 2:Man, it just bursts through his skin.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Like, ah, it's like at that point, just like, just make it your clothes. This is my skin now, but yeah, so he, um, he flies to Afghanistan, where he saves Yinsen village and delivers a devastating blow to the Ten Rings.
Speaker 2:That's a badass scene.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's got like the repulsor, like rays out of his hands or whatever. Yeah, the little missiles, and then one out of his chest. You got the like super accurate bullets where he's like beep, beep, beep, beep, beep something out of a video game. Smart bullets Shoots them all out, the tiny missile that destroys the tank.
Speaker 2:That was like the shot of the movie back then it's so funny, it's like pew.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's the slow turnaround, the badass walk from the explosion.
Speaker 2:That's when you're like we got a movie here. You think Jars is in his head. He's like okay, now turn around and walk that way.
Speaker 1:Don't worry, if there was a camera here, which there's not, that would be so cool. It's just whispering sweet nothings of destruction in his ear and, uh, something I think is funny he ends up that he sees a jerry like three, like jericho missiles or whatever, and he shoots them and they, I guess, destroy the village he just saved. I know he's probably would be further away, but those things were huge explosions, like they destroyed everything around it. So did you just kill all the people you saved, man? Yeah, I think so. Um, whoops, you're welcome. I wish the reporter came up to him. Did you see there was an iron man out there? Just saved this village and then destroyed it? Any comments? Also, do you want to have a sec? Okay, so while flying home, stark is shot by two F-22.
Speaker 2:Raptor fighter jets.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they start chasing him. He phones Rhodes and he's like Rhodes is like when you at? What are you doing? Is this you? What's happening here? He's like, oh, no, I'm driving my car. Later he's like why are you out of breath? Oh, I'm going for a run. I thought you were driving.
Speaker 2:It's badass when the Jet fight scene because they hit him with a missile. It just kind of he gets hit so hard, like it really, because this is the first time he's been hit in the suit. Yeah, and you're just like, and they're shooting like the .50 cal machine guns at him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and just bouncing off, and then he's like trying to gain control and then he like he's just holding on to the plane. Yeah, so funny, very Top Gun, yeah. And then the plane ends up crashing into him or whatever, and then a guy's falling and then he has to like go and save him and stuff. And then Rhodes is like you crazy son of a bitch.
Speaker 2:That plane was very expensive, sir. Yeah, like you owe me one About five billion. Yeah, he's like well, you know, I have unlimited money in these movies, so whatever I'll get you 20 I'll sell you one, yeah.
Speaker 1:so then he's like back in uh in his little workshop, and then pepper comes downstairs and sees tony uh having the robots aggressively take off the or struggling to take off his armor. It's so good. And then, like he turns to her let's face it, this is not the worst thing you caught me doing Kind of like she's his mom Hell yeah, that's like the funniest part of the movie.
Speaker 1:So then, meanwhile, the Ten Rings gather the pieces of Stark's prototype suit and meet with Stan, who subdues Raza and has the rest of the group eliminated. Stan has a new oh, and then Stan ends up having a new suit, reverse engineered from the wreckage. But this is where we first see that dope ass ear thing that he has. Yes, I want one.
Speaker 2:Just if I'm ever attacked.
Speaker 1:I'm like bing Hell, yeah, but like it gives you like that, like your veins start getting like red and popping out of your face Black. What is going on? Pretty sick. It's pretty sick Visual.
Speaker 2:Is it like messing with the nerves in his face, something like that, I guess? I guess this is like neurotoxin, something like that.
Speaker 1:Cool, it's like whatever like they used in. Was it China? Like those Sonic, like wave things that they have where it just like emits?
Speaker 2:it's a sound to disperse like they did against the Hulk.
Speaker 1:Yeah, in Incredible Norton, yeah bro that's like the best thing you've ever said. That's a good bit. That's a good bit. So, uh, tony wants to get more info on weapon drops so he can destroy them. So he needs Pepper to help him. But she refuses because she doesn't want to see him get killed. Um, this is where he's like I don't have anything else. And then pepper's like all I got is you. And then he's like well, fuck, all I got is you. Or I said that earlier in the film let's get married.
Speaker 1:It's like to not have a script. They, uh, they kind of it's like a good callback to like all I have is you pepper, and then she's like all I have is you tony, and it's like get married, um, it's sweet, yeah, um, but yes, then she agrees. So pepper takes the usb drive to stark's office. She discovers tan stan has been supplying the terrorists and hired the 10 rings to kill stark. But the group, the group didn't do it. The goop, the goop.
Speaker 1:They wanted to learn how to build their own jericho missiles to cut out stan. Then Stan comes in while she's downloading the data. It's a great like little nerve-wracking scene it's like. It's like you don't really see Jeff Bridges as like an intimidating figure, but they really did a good job in this movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this way. And then I think after this he was a villain in a show about like a Western show show and he was really good in that one too like he's just a good villain yeah, he's open, he's good in other stuff.
Speaker 1:And then like people were like what if we just didn't understand a word? You said anymore, and then you did trigger it. He did yeah, yeah well, he's like a good guy.
Speaker 2:Well, he's like an asshole, right but okay, yeah, that's a different western, yeah the one that I'm thinking of is like there's a town that's full of women because all their men died in a mining accident, and he's like the leader of a bandit, a band of bandits or whatever.
Speaker 1:I'm going to have to look that up after that. It sounds interesting. It's pretty cool. I love Jeff Bridges, yeah he's the best. It's our boy, our king, the dude, but yeah, so he comes in. While she's downloading the data she's able to like hide, the usb puts a screensaver on flying toasters.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's up too far back, yeah he seems super intimidating.
Speaker 1:Uh, he talks about how the real tony never came back. Um, she's successfully like, oh yeah, he'll be back, don't worry, he's just a little tired. But she successfully sneaks the usb drive out of the computer and leaves. But but then Stan sees that she downloaded everything. Oh no, oh no. Then Potts, going downstairs, sees that Agent Coulson of the Strategic Homeland Invention, enforcement and Logistics Division Shield, a counterterrorism agency, to inform him of Stan's activities. Bum, bum, bum, she's got help. We see that Stan's scientists cannot duplicate Stark's arc reactor. Oh, and this is where Tony Stark was able to build this in a cave with a box of scraps. So scary, so scary, and I love that. The guy he's talking to is the kid from Christmas Story.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, really yeah, he's in this movie or he's talking to is the kid from Christmas Story.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, really. Yeah, he's in this movie or he's in the next one, which is like the main character, yeah, the main character, kid, yeah.
Speaker 1:He's like the guy that's like balding. Yeah, he shows up in later movies too. That's fun. I think he shows up in Spider-Man 2? The second Spider-Man, I don't know. He shows up in a couple of movies. Wait, wasn't he also in the Dark Knight? No, that was Breakfast, the Breakfast Club. Oh, okay, nerd guy, the Breakfast Club. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Any other people from our childhood?
Speaker 1:Superhero movies I might remember, I don't know. So Stan, yes, so Stan ambushes Stark at his home using the sonic device to paralyze him and take his arc reactor straight out of his chest and then he leaves him to die. But Stark manages to crawl to his lab and plug in the original reactor. He almost doesn't make it, but his robot doggy helps and it's like good boy. And I was like, am I going to cry Because we have a fucking character arc for this robot guy.
Speaker 2:There should have been an after credits scene. I think there is an after credits scene, but one with this robot just doing goofy shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the after credits is the Nick Fury thing. Oh yeah, rhodes shows up to help Tony Potts and several SHIELD agents attempt to arrest Stan, but he doesn't. But he puts on his giant ass suit and attacks him. He like hides behind some chains cause like he puts on a suit, I guess and they break in cause of the explosion of the door and like Pepper's looking around, and then I'm just like she's gonna look behind these. I can't remember, does she look behind these chains?
Speaker 1:and then he like, opens up and I'm like you couldn't find a better hiding spot, your tiny ass suit, and just hide behind these chains. But then Stark suits up and flies off Rhodes, then looks at a new suit and says next time baby. Not for you, Terrence Howard, Not for you. Stark fights Stan but is overmatched without his new reactor to run his suit at full capacity because he starts to fight with like 40 percent. Oh, I thought it was like 70.
Speaker 1:Something like that. I don't know, but yeah, so the fight. You see like Stan crawl out from underground, like when Pepper's outside, like breaking through the concrete. Fuck yeah, hella cool, it's like the Hulkbuster, yeah.
Speaker 2:It's essentially kind of leads to it yeah, hella cool, it's like the Hulk Buster. Yeah, it's essentially kind of leads to it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's like the family in the car that Stan's going to like use to like crush Tony, but he catches it and then, like he sets him down, they just run him over. It's like what the fuck? And then Stan uses a motorcycle to hit Tony. That was pretty sick, that was badass. And then Tony has an idea. They're just like throwing people out of wheelchairs.
Speaker 1:They use the chair as a weapon. That would be like the scary movie parody of it. Tony has the bright idea to have Stan follow him up as high as possible to freeze up his suit, and it works, oh yeah, Because he's like how did you deal with that problem? Yeah, the freezing problem. He's like what freezing problem?
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:Falls and he thinks that Tony is one. We see Tony's suit's running out of power and he's like falling and he's able to land just at the last second. But guess who's alive?
Speaker 2:Stan.
Speaker 1:Starts pulling wires out of Stan's suit. See, like what we said earlier when he had live Stan Stark starts pulling wires out of Stan's suit. See, like what we said earlier when he had his suit. It looks like there's a lot of gaps, something that Tony thought I'm doing a lot of hand movements over here. I'm going to have to make this a video podcast eventually.
Speaker 1:And then Stark lures Stan atop of the Stark Industries building and instructs Potts to overload the large arc reactor there, which all successfully happens. This and Tony's also up on the roof still and the arc reactor is unleashed. But luckily for Tony, it didn't like blow him up too bad, it just shot him onto the roof and then Stan falls in and there's a giant explosion. Yeah, it's great, and that's that's pretty much him dying. Fuck, yeah, it's a pretty big explosion.
Speaker 2:That's a badass. The action scenes in this movie are so fucking cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're really cool, yeah, so then the next day the press has dubbed the armored hero Iron man Tony's like. Well, it's actually not really made out of iron, but it's a cool name. You mean, like the song that we all know?
Speaker 2:about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, agent Coulson gives Stark a cover story to explain the events of the night and Stan's death At a press conference. Stark begins giving the cover story, but then is just like fuck it, fuck it, I am Iron man. I'm Iron man, I'm Iron.
Speaker 2:Man Cut to the song I'm Iron man.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I can't.
Speaker 2:I know so like I remember seeing this in the theaters. I was like where the fuck is the song?
Speaker 1:And at the very end we're going to go through the credits.
Speaker 2:It's perfect Perfect. That is kind of cool, but it it would have been kind of neat, like maybe a little too on the nose, if they would have played that intro part when he's busting out of the cave, just like I am Iron man, but I guess he really wasn't Iron man at that point.
Speaker 1:He was just Tin Can man, tin man. Oh, and then about like, after like five hours of credits, you have the first ever Marvel post-credits scene. Shield director Nick Fury visits Stark at home and, noting that Iron man is not the only superhero in the world, says he wants to discuss the Avengers initiative. Cut to black, and that's Iron man. We're going to run through our categories real quick. The first one is the good, the bad, the ugly, the fine. It's where we discuss the good of the film, something we like, the bad, something we didn't. The ugly, something that didn't age well. The fine something that did age well. I think the good's pretty easy. It's Robert Downey Jr and Gwyneth Paltrow. Hell yeah, this is two really good actors and Jeff Bridges obviously.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hell yeah, good man, just the action. The action sequences are so fucking cool, yeah, and like, even like from from the very beginning, it's just not kind of non-stop, uh action going on, and it's, I'm here for it yeah, yeah, this is fucking cool.
Speaker 1:So for my bad, I put the terrible score generic ass metal music.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what was that song he was listening to in his lab? It was.
Speaker 1:That was just a guy yelling oh yeah, that was like that's actually a punk rock punk song. I actually know that it's actually a pretty dope song, that's cool but I just mean like the, like the score of the music is like I'm like dude, this is terrible. They're like just trying not to'm like dude, this is terrible.
Speaker 2:They're like just trying not to use the Iron man song.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because you know they're trying to make it like a classic rock type thing. But I'm just like, all right, man, I don't know, just use some fucking violin or something. Oh, what do you? Got for the bad? The.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I think making the I mean it was kind of product of its time to make terrorists the bad guys in the Middle East.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it made the most sense for, like what his character is Selling weapons to the government yeah, stuff like that.
Speaker 2:So I guess that would kind of be more of an ugly thing, but, like the, the fact that it's probably I really don't know if there's a bad yeah, pretty solid because I enjoyed it saw too long.
Speaker 1:Yeah sure, yeah, I just had the score that was it.
Speaker 1:I was just like every time like an action scene would start, I'd be like dude, just I'd rather there not be a score. Um, for me the ugly. I actually put third acts but because these movies always have too long of a third act, essentially like the action, but like it's not this movie, it's not in this movie, it's like everything after this movie, where the third act is like an hour long fight scene and it's just like, yeah, you snooze in until the Hulk comes out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the end of it, Because you know, if they let him go in the beginning of a fight he's just going to end it. Yeah, that's the Hulk's power, though. The buildup to the transformation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's great. And then I also put studios taking all the wrong things from these films as in we only make these type of big movies. Now it's like, come on, dude Studios, get the fuck together now.
Speaker 2:It's like come on, dude studios. I wish they would have gone by this formula a little bit more, yeah, but maybe it wouldn't have made sense for other. Just one marvel movie here would have been.
Speaker 1:That's all we should have now. Just don't do two or three, just one. Let everybody go see it and then let other movies they gotta be made.
Speaker 2:Start exploring some of the characters no one really knows about yeah.
Speaker 1:Then it's like, hey, you know what it turns out. Y'all couldn't find ways to put them in other movies. So now we're just like we're just introducing characters and you're like, but you'll maybe never see this character again, by the way, because what like Shang-Chi was like three, four years ago? At this point it's like is he come back like you do a sequel at least with him? Or something like come on, um, and for the fine I put tony being the heart of these films and tony revealing his iron man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, I think, fine, I. I I like how they use humor in this one and not so much in the newer ones, because in the newer marvel movies a lot of the times especially Avengers, I think, is really the only one Movies that I've seen do it maybe Spider-Man, where it's kind of like hey, isn't this silly?
Speaker 1:everyone it's like hey, you know how we almost all got a blibber Like we're about to all die in front of this guy. Well, what if I made like five clips real quick? Yeah, I enjoy it. And the end of guardians of galaxy three, where he does his dance off.
Speaker 2:That's a little different. You know what this is. I think a distraction. Well, yeah, sorry, dakota, I know you hate it I think the Avengers are a little different. Yeah, Because they're just funny as hell. Anyway, yeah, and they're always fun, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the Guardians are all just like weird offbeat characters. Like they're just like the way they are is just funny in general. Like the jokes are a part of those characters, versus like why does Vision have 15 jokes in this movie? He's a is he really that funny of a guy you think to hang out with? Yeah?
Speaker 2:Is he really that funny of a?
Speaker 1:guy you think to hang out with. Yeah, so I can understand that. It's like are we sure Hawkeye should be this funny?
Speaker 2:I never even heard of Hawkeye until that movie, until Avengers Got him.
Speaker 1:All right, so we're going to hit our second category, which is double feature. It's a movie we recommend alongside this film, and I picked another man in a can RoboCop RoboCop Because once you get all this fun, family-friendly superhero-ness. Let's get fucking gritty as shit and have people being obliterated by guns. Yes, and there's a lot of fucks in it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I remember those watching those movies as a kid. They were violent.
Speaker 1:I can't believe how much I watched Robocop as a kid.
Speaker 2:I know like my parents should not have let me watch that.
Speaker 1:No, really I only watched it like on, like, like TNT and stuff like that, so I didn't and I was like shit man, they really fucked him up.
Speaker 2:Got that guy right in the penis, yeah. So my double feature is a movie called a rampage. It's just kind of like the opposite of Iron man. Yeah, in an iron suit that he makes, he welds a suit together and then just goes out and kills everyone in town.
Speaker 1:I've never heard of.
Speaker 2:Rumpage. It's very disturbing.
Speaker 1:I gotta open up my fucking laptop again. I was expecting something.
Speaker 2:I've heard of it's like some squibbling little or some sniveling little shit who builds a suit of steel and just kills everyone in town to drive and robs a bank or something and like I don't know oh, the 2009 film.
Speaker 1:A young man just out of high school is a man with a thirst for revenge, builds a full body armor from kevlar and goes on a killing spree. Yeah, you bowl. Is this a movie?
Speaker 2:It's actually kind of fun.
Speaker 1:It's like his best rated movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it makes you feel bad, okay, but it's a good watch.
Speaker 1:So yeah, if you guys want to feel bad, watch our movies. Wow.
Speaker 2:Iron Boy. Is this on Iron Incel?
Speaker 1:This makes me hella interested to watch the fact that you just recommended a Yule Ball movie. I don't know who that is. He just makes like really bad movies. Nice, like he made what is it like? He used to make like all these like really bad video game movies, like shit, let me get there, let me get there. He did the movie Alone in the Dark, too bad. House of the dead blood rain, that video game, jesus those were bad games.
Speaker 2:What?
Speaker 1:are they the name of the king? A dungeon siege tale I remember watching that terrible far. He did the far cry movie. Never heard of it. He was one of the like his movies got, like would get blasted so much that he he got so tired of it and because he's kind of an angry guy, he started. He started like holding events where like people, his critics and stuff could box him. Oh wow, guess what?
Speaker 2:he's a really good boxer oh no, so he would just beat him the shit out of him well out of it.
Speaker 1:Well, they agreed to do it. I know, but he would just like knock them senseless. God damn, he was just like. All right, you can fight me if you want.
Speaker 2:So basically, Rampage is about him.
Speaker 1:I think, yeah, it makes me really want to watch the movies now that's crazy. Oh well, that's Iron man baby, yay Next. Well, that's Iron man baby Next week. I think we should do a small little film that inspired a very popular comedic TV series. I think it's finally time to do what we do in the shadows, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hell yeah, because I own it.
Speaker 1:It's like an hour and 17 minutes long. It's one of the funniest movies you'll ever see.
Speaker 2:It's ridiculous. I love it long. It's one of the funniest movies you'll ever see. It's ridiculous, I love it yeah. What'd you do this weekend? Oh, you know, change into a dog and had sex.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they love their friend Steve. It's so good, hell yeah. So join us for that. It's a Taika movie, so there's going to be plenty of laughs, baby, and are you enjoying the podcast? Do you have any questions for us? You should be like hey, here's some things I want to talk to you guys about and send us some fan mail. Link in the description at the top. At the bottom is our email. We recommend mailbag at gmailcom. Also, leave us some reviews. It's like a great way so more people can find our podcast. And you know it only take like a couple of seconds. So whatever platform you're using, just leave us a review on it. It'd be super nice for you to do.
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