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Ocean's Eleven
"The house always wins. Play long enough, you never change the stakes. The house takes you. Unless, when that perfect hand comes along, you bet big, and then you take the house."
In 2001, Steven Soderbergh assembled Hollywood's most charismatic ensemble to redefine the heist genre with Ocean's Eleven. This week, we dive into this masterclass of style, wit, and precision plotting that has become the gold standard for all heist films that followed.
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Hello and welcome to the we Recommend podcast, a movie podcast where every week, we recommend a movie for you to watch and then come back here and listen to us discuss. I'm Jesse, I'm Jason, all right, you proved your point. You broke into my vault. Congratulations, you're a dead man. Yeah, because this week we recommend Ocean's Eleven 11. Man, I said that weird. Yay, everybody's like nah, I'm good with this. So this movie is slick, it's stylish, it's fun. It's just a God dang masterpiece of a heist movie. What do you think? Yeah, I love this Of Ocean's Eleven Incredible, right, so much fun. You know, there was something I was reading about this and Steven Soderbergh, the director of this movie he was talking about. It's like I wanted to make a movie that is just like nothing bad happens to any of the people in it, except for.
Speaker 1:Terry, yeah, except for Terry. But you know, fuck Terry. Right, he was just going to give away tests and I was just like, oh yeah, this movie's like fucking if you're in England, like a cup of tea in the morning or something Nice black coffee in the morning, cheerio. And that's what it makes me feel like.
Speaker 2:I'm just like, oh, all my friends are here in the morning, cheerio, and that's what it makes me feel like I'm just like oh, all my friends are here, come on guys.
Speaker 1:Let's watch Ocean's Eleven. Let's steal some shit, brad. Get over here. George, get over here. Cheeto with your weird ass accent. Get over here. Terrible accent from Don Cheadle and something like this is the Avengers of heist movies. I of heist movies, I'd say so. Yeah, that's pretty cool. They're just Soderbergh's like I want all my friends in this movie. Oh, they just happen to be some of the best and biggest stars in the biz.
Speaker 2:Come over here. So is Danny Ocean a real person, right? Oh, I don't know. Is he a real criminal?
Speaker 1:I don't think so. I think it's all made up right. I don't know. I know this movie was a remake of something. Oh well, remake of Ocean's Eleven. That was in the 60s. I've never watched that, though.
Speaker 2:No, I never knew it was made in the 60s.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but yeah, I just love. The entire cast is great George Clooney as Danny Ocean, brad Pitt as Rusty, julia Roberts, matt Damon no, he's not a real person.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't think so.
Speaker 1:You got Bernie Mac Ugh RIP. Miss you, bud. Did you ever watch the Bernie Mac show Cracker? Yeah, call it White Jack. Ugh love Bernie Mac. He's so funny. Elliot Gould yes, that's the tech guy.
Speaker 1:No he's the guy, that guy that's like, oh, the hairy chest gold chain man. Yeah, he's uh, ross and um, monica's father and friends nice, yeah, yeah, I've seen friends. Then you got casey affleck, scott khan ah, just amazing. And then, uh, of course, carl reiner legend. Um, yeah, I could just watch these guys do anything, and I was so glad that they did two more of these, even though they're not nearly as good as this movie, but still fun, yeah, so notice anything about Brad.
Speaker 2:Pitt's performance. What do you mean?
Speaker 1:I mean just like while watching. Have you noticed like what man he's like, constantly doing something that I don't?
Speaker 2:I mean. I know he's constantly eating, constantly Doing stuff with his mouth.
Speaker 1:That's just like actually a thing that Brad Pitt does in his movies. I guess it's just like people have their tics, oh really, yeah, like a lot of actors, I had a tic the other day. Yeah, I found a tic in the yard the other day.
Speaker 2:Killed it it wasn't on you.
Speaker 1:No, you lucky bastard. Well, we were doing yard work so and I was like that's a tick. Crushed it, I got so many ticks Probably didn't die because they're impossible to kill.
Speaker 2:No, you pop them yeah.
Speaker 1:Like a little pop. I know I can't do it.
Speaker 1:It makes me feel bad my blood. It's like if I have to pick it up, look in the eyes and squish it, I can't do that um, but like, let's say in friends, like if you ever watch it, just like, notice, rachel, she has like a tick that she does. It's like like she does something like that, um, but like most actors have ticks like that, I always just look at her boobs. Yeah, okay, so uh, but yeah, I guess the idea here is brad pitt's always eating in his movies. If you ever go back and watch him he's like eating a lot.
Speaker 1:But the idea came from, uh was an actual idea from brad pitt, who came up, uh, for his character. He reasoned that with all the planning and preparation needed for the heist, rusty would never have time to sit down and eat a meal. But in the dvd commentary he admits that they made a mistake by introducing rusting rusty's eating habits. In the DVD commentary he admits that they made a mistake by introducing Rusty's eating habits in the first scene, which is before the heist planning begins. But yeah, I was just like man, every time you see him, I was like I'm getting hungry.
Speaker 2:Characters aren't supposed to eat, yeah.
Speaker 1:So are you like a big fan of heist movies?
Speaker 2:I do love heist movies. I wouldn't say I'm like a huge fan. I like them. I need moreist movies. I wouldn't say I'm a huge fan, I like them I need more of them.
Speaker 1:I feel like they just got replaced at some point by superheroes. Yeah, I mean kind of they're all too busy doing superhero movies to do these.
Speaker 2:Well, maybe they've just run out of ways to steal shit yeah.
Speaker 1:That's true, but Steven Soderbergh says nah, dog, I've made 10 of these things. Do you know anything about Steven Soderbergh? No, so he's kind of one of those guys. He was like he came up because of Sundance Film Festival, which is where a lot of indie directors at the time in the 90s kind of came up that's Kevin Smith Clerks. Oh yeah, soderbergh, he was one of those that you know like that's why he went to Sundance to find these new directors, because he made his first movie, sex Lies and Videotape. You ever seen it? No, it's. Oh, is that what was it in Sundance? Yeah, and he won like an award for it. It's got James Spader, andy McDowell, peter Gallagher, the guy with the eyebrows himself, and it's just essentially like. James Spader is like a damn ass freak who likes to talk about sex with people and video them.
Speaker 2:Sex lies in videotape.
Speaker 1:Okay, it's really good. It's just kind of like a quiet talkative movie. And then man, he just went all along. He made out of sight. Have you ever seen that? George Clooney JLo so good I of sight. Have you ever seen it? George Clooney J-Lo so good? I don't think so. It's hot as fuck. Aaron Brockovich, julia Roberts.
Speaker 2:I've seen that, yeah, I haven't seen that, yeah that movie's perfect and it's like three hours long.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he won Best Director for that. I believe it was a good movie. And then he did the movie Traffic, ocean's Eleven Hell yeah. And then Skip a few times. After doing a bunch of those, he did the Che part one and two, contagion I don't know. It's the movie everybody's like wow, steven Soderbergh made a movie about pandemic. Let's all watch it during COVID Hell yeah.
Speaker 2:I think I did see it.
Speaker 1:Wow, they found a cure way faster in that movie than in real life and everybody just took it and didn't call it the you know a disaster and call it the you know a disaster. And then there's a movie he made called Haywire, which I recommended before. It's just kind of like a fighting movie or like spy movie. It's really good. And then he did the Magic Mike. Haven't seen that one, haven't seen it. It's really good. My younger brother loved that movie. Yeah, I actually.
Speaker 1:When I watched it, I was like oh, oh, this isn't just like. Uh, I didn't realize steven soderbergh directed it when I watched it. And then, um, I was like, oh, so I was watching it with my girlfriend at the time. I was like this movie's a little bit darker than I thought it was gonna be really well, because I was like, oh, it's just like. Oh, yeah, it wasn't just about it, um, but that was actually good. He did a movie called Unsane. He started just doing like, really like movies that came out of nowhere, like really low budget, and he was obsessed with filming things on an iPhone, which is like, honestly, from 2018. It's like all he did was film things on iPhones. But then he did like Unsane High Flying Bird. Let them Talk no Sudden Move, which is on HBO, is really good. Kimmy, which is a really good movie it's like an hour and 20 minutes and it's like a perfect little thriller, cool.
Speaker 2:Is it like the unstoppable Kimmy Schmidt? Yeah, just like it Sounds good.
Speaker 1:And then he's had like two movies this year, presence and Black Bag, and I haven't watched either one. Black Bag's on Peacock, if you want to check it out, um, but that's a rundown of steven soderbergh for you, uh, and so just a couple little facts here.
Speaker 1:Um, apparently there was no egos on set, and one of their favorite things is whoever showed up late would get a standing ovation from everybody for being late it's great and, uh, like everyone on set, like all these giant name stars, um, they all took a pay cut so that they could all be in this movie, which is that's really cool. Yeah, it's great, they're like. It was who said it? Clooney was apparently the star to take lead on this decision of everybody taking a cut said if we all get paid, we can't make the movie. And they're all like art, and so George Clooney was the one that lured julia julia roberts, uh to make the movie.
Speaker 2:um topher grace had to pay double to be in the movie. Yeah, he had to pay them.
Speaker 1:It's like please get me out of this 70 show, even though I think it was already over. So she won her oscar for aaron brockovich. Um roberts was earning 20 million per movie at this point, which is great. And in order to woo her to Ocean's Eleven, george Clooney told GQ that he sent her the script with a $20 bill and a note explaining he'd heard it was her right now Nice. Apparently, george Clooney was really bad at gambling because they all really like during production and stuff, they all gambled together and stuff and he was one of the worst.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when they're in the poker scene with everyone at the table, he's got like a really bad poker face. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know he's like. The thing is, he's like so charming and handsome. It's like you don't need a poker face.
Speaker 2:Take my money.
Speaker 1:Just like, oh you and handsome.
Speaker 2:It's like you don't need a poker face, just like oh, you got 21 seven times in a row.
Speaker 1:You just keep betting, so he'll look at you, yeah. And then, like I said earlier, uh, soderbergh was aiming for a movie that just had a sense of fun, um, and that he didn't want anything terrible happening to the characters, um, and in the making of documentary he joked it's probably the least threatening film I've ever made. I was like, and I'm glad about that, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's interesting.
Speaker 1:And so the I guess they had they were able to do whatever they want in the casinos, like all these casinos give them, like, full access to everything. It was great. That's nice, and apparently the pinch was based on a real device Nice.
Speaker 2:Like an atomic bomb.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the production team explained that the device is actually based on a real life machine and that they were able to check it out in person to help with their own design. That's all the information they gave me about it.
Speaker 2:So they're just making things that could take out an entire city's electric grid. Yeah, that's fun, isn't it fun?
Speaker 1:I like thinking about that Yay, and you can steal it and just rob a bank.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they didn't really have it guarded very well.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So regarding Don Cheadle's accent, cheadle is most known for in these movies with his English actions, which has been criticized by many of the worst in cinema history. When, speaking to Uproxx, cheetle was presented with a theory that his character was really an American who wanted to be British, to which Cheetle jokingly accepted yeah, ok, that's that's what it is.
Speaker 2:It didn't really seem that bad, yeah, I know it's like.
Speaker 1:I always remember it being a little bit worse, but when I was watching I was like you can tell it's like, no, that's no.
Speaker 2:but I was like it's not as bad as I remember I really love british slang because you never know what the fuck they're talking about.
Speaker 1:That's why it was so great doing uh, attack the block, so good truth. So did you love the scene where he's teaching the celebrity poker people? Yeah, I thought that was pretty funny.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it kills me to think that they never learned how to play poker. But you know, my family taught me when I was like 10.
Speaker 1:We were all gambling yeah From a young age.
Speaker 2:Well, like with real money, and they used to get mad at me because I would just be a dick, because I didn't know, like the etiquette, I guess with family gambling I was just in it to win all the time. Oh, I didn't know there was an etiquette for family gambling. I think there should be, because there wasn't or they didn't tell me about it.
Speaker 1:I remember cause, you know, poker became so popular in the two thousands Right and like every douche wanted to do it, I was all in. We kind of, I think, talked about it in the rounders episode, which you should go back and listen to, cause that's one of our best episodes, I feel like just for doing Malkovich impersonations which me and Natalie do around the house all the time. Um, but like, like you know, it's always like the douchiest guy guys in your school would be like I'm super serious when we're just playing with no money or anything.
Speaker 2:We have chips.
Speaker 1:You got the upside down sunglasses, yeah I remember um playing with this one guy and we went to like this church retreat thing in nashville or whatever and you know he's wearing his hat and we're just like three of us playing. He like puts his hat real low so he can't read his poker face and I was like fuck off. It's like how are you so lame?
Speaker 2:It's really easy to be lame.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I do it every day. So there's a lot of, I guess, jokes dropped by Topher Grace like his scene. So you know he was kind of transitioning from TVs to movies at this time. And when Danny joins the young stars at the poker table, he is heard asking that 70 show star if he had a hard time transitioning from movies to television. Oh yeah, the opposite, of course. Clooney found fame on ER before becoming a movie star. There's also a reference to Soderbergh's Oscar acceptance speech for the Traffic in which he simply said he'd thank everyone in person. Grace, who appeared in Traffic, is heard complaining that he never got thanked. That's right, he went for Traffic, not Aaron Brockovich.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Traffic was good as well.
Speaker 1:He thanked everybody but Topher Grace and put in the movie.
Speaker 2:So this is like apologizing to Topher.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I guess. So it's like hey, sorry you can be in this great movie and act alongside of uh, um and oh last thing, um. Originally, instead of george clooney, they wanted bruce willis, who was actually in a heist movie before.
Speaker 2:I think it's called heist oh well, I don't think it would have been as well. I think George Clooney was so much more charismatic and more handsome.
Speaker 1:He fits in with the group too, like I don't see Bruce Willis and Brad Pitt hanging out together and I don't see Bruce Willis as a criminal, really really yeah he's always a cop a diehard. He made him a cop in our head. Yeah, he's always a cop, or?
Speaker 2:like he's always a big good guy, like he's always beating the shit out of everyone.
Speaker 1:Also, I feel like you really need hair to play this part. Yeah, something about it. It's like if you don't have slick back hair, you just can't be believable in this part right. Yes, and it's just like, though Brad Pitt I mean Bruce Willis was like super charming. You know, I just feel like by the 2000s, like we weren't really like Bruce Willis, the most charming guy on the planet you kind of need that, and that's George Clooney at the time especially still is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and Bruce Willis would have. I think he's. Even if they would have tried not to make him a tough guy, he still would have done it. Yeah, that's not what you need for this, yeah exactly.
Speaker 1:All right, bro Shall, we hop into this plot and I just want to go ahead and say sorry if my notes are wrong. It's a very complicated movie to take notes for. Well, they don't 7 am in the morning.
Speaker 1:They're always bringing in shit that they don't tell you you about, I know. And then you're like, oh, the heist is real, and but there's fake elements. And then it's like or kind of cut back and forth. So I just kind of put it when I talk about the heist, I'm like just explaining that it's all fake, like what parts are fake while it's going on, instead of just doing the reveal because you everybody's seen this movie at this point. So let's go. Oceans 11 baby 2001 what's he?
Speaker 2:why is he in prison? So, after his wife separates with him.
Speaker 1:Danny Ocean begins to ruin himself. He commits a crime and is convicted for it and incurs a four year prison sentence. I'm assuming you robbed and got caught Later.
Speaker 2:it says that she sent him divorce papers on his last day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which is great. Got his ass you about to get out you about to be real sad when you're real sad.
Speaker 2:Just the case of what you were thinking about coming back for me yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1:So he doesn't brood on it for four years, so he doesn't send. She doesn't send it first day, because then last day he'll come and he'll kill her plan of revenge yeah. And then it's like oh, if he stews on it for four years he might kill me. If I give it to him last day, he's gonna be like what the fuck? Yeah, I thought I had a chance to get back.
Speaker 2:Makes his freedom bittersweet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like oh, he doesn't have a long time to plan something Turns out, he doesn't need it.
Speaker 2:Which makes me think she's involved the entire time. She is, though, which is great.
Speaker 1:So, nearing the end of his sentence, a parole board grants him a hearing where he proves his rehabilitation, but not as any involvement with other crimes in which he was implicated. Yeah, and he totally did, of course. So once out, danny heads to Atlantic City, where he meets with Frank Catton in order to find out the whereabouts of Rusty Ryan Great name, baby, rusty Ryan.
Speaker 2:They call me Rusty Rusty Ryan. I was thinking of Rusty Shackledford, rusty Ryan. They call me Rusty Rusty Ryan. I was thinking of Rusty Shackledford. What's his name?
Speaker 1:Rusty Ryan is a perfect con man name though, Because, like the name has to be something like Rusty. Pretty fun name, right, Ryan, normal-ass name, but for a con man you have to put them together, so you can not trust him. Rusty Ryan, you can't trust him, he's a little rusty.
Speaker 2:Need some CLR to get rid of the rust of him. Is that what?
Speaker 1:CLR does. Yeah, calcium lime rust, nice, yeah, okay, so there's a little bit of. I worked at Home Depot. I know my cleaning supplies baby, yeah, barely works. Almost never works when I used it. So we meet Rusty, who's teaching celebrities how to play poker. Got Topher Grace. Joshua Jackson Doesn't know which way to deal the cards.
Speaker 2:It's fun, they all really Deal somebody's sex cards yeah.
Speaker 1:They all really suck at it, though. After the poker game, once he picks up Rusty's trill, danny violates his parole and crosses the country, headed to Los Angeles. He surprises Rusty at a private celebrity poker training session Rusty is teaching. The two prove they can still coordinate well together when they take advantage of the trainees and win good sum of money.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it kind of helps them win like thousands of dollars.
Speaker 1:And like all the celebrities are like oh, they're just like, oh well, you're bad at this dude.
Speaker 2:Thanks for teaching us.
Speaker 1:They walk out and Danny and Rusty walk together and just walk away. I'm like Topher, you're right there Like how do you not notice this? So after the Poke game, danny and Rusty head to a small, very poorly lit restaurant. It's like how do you eat in that restaurant? All you could see is like the sides of their face and like everything behind them. I was like it's romantic. I was trying to squint to see.
Speaker 2:I was like yeah, but how do you see your food? You know the food is secondary.
Speaker 1:It's like you sit down your fork on the table. You're like shit, you just when did it go?
Speaker 2:Do you have your phone? Do you have for?
Speaker 1:yeah, this is like pre 9-11 stuff all restaurants were poorly lit. Then after 9-11, like we really gotta light this place up. Come out before september I'm not sure, that's just just.
Speaker 1:I have to make a 9-11 joke at some point, apparently I do it every time, um, but this is where danny proposes the idea of robbing three las vegas casinos the bellagio, the mirage and the mgm grand. That night. The two go over to the Bellagio, the Mirage and the MGM Grand that night. The two go over to the requirements for the job and lay out for the area where the job will take place. So have you ever been to any of these?
Speaker 2:Never been to Vegas. Never been to Vegas. I thought you did. I don't even think I've, I've only driven through Nevada like Northern Nevada.
Speaker 1:I've never actually you ever wanted to go.
Speaker 2:I hate gambling, but I want to see some other shit.
Speaker 1:I know I'd be like I'll bring $100 to gamble.
Speaker 2:That's it. It'll last five seconds, as soon as I like I bet it all. It's like okay well, well, I guess I'm tapped out.
Speaker 1:Going to the pool and having some drinks. Anytime I think about Vegas, I'm like what do you do there other than gamble? There's. I know they got a lot of stuff shows and like you can take like kayaks through, like you know like, oh, you mean like the Hoover Dam and shit, yeah, something like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah the Grand.
Speaker 1:Canyon. Yeah, and you got all the little things.
Speaker 2:That would be cool. I've always wanted to go to the grand canyon and also except I don't want to go on that glass like the glass balcony that you. That makes you feel like you're gonna die.
Speaker 1:I specifically want to do that, for sure, yeah I'm not really scared of heights I am terrified. It's like if I had to go throw me out of a plane.
Speaker 2:I hope I've done that, really. There's a video of me doing it I looked terrified the entire time. I bet your face all over the place. My hair was super long, so it was like my head was on fire. My bright red hair and you had a guy attached to you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, on my back.
Speaker 2:The guy was like I can't see.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was like this is usually fun. I should have told him to put in a ponytail.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you should have. Yeah, he should have. Yeah, he would have been smart.
Speaker 1:So not totally convinced about Danny's motive, rusty asks him why he wants to do the job. Danny responds with an obviously prepared speech. But it is enough to gain Rusty's trust, danny, because yesterday I walked out of the joint after losing four years of my life and your cold decking. Team beat, cover boys, because the house always wins. Play long enough. You never change the stakes. The house always wins. Play long enough. You never change the stakes. The house takes you, unless when that perfect hand comes along, you bet big. Then you take the house. Rusty been practicing that speech, haven't you? Danny, a little bit Did I rush? It Felt like I rushed it. No, it was good, I liked it. Team beat thing was harsh.
Speaker 2:What's the team beat?
Speaker 1:I have no idea and did you look up any?
Speaker 2:you know all the, all these code words for the. I guess we're gonna get into it, but like the, the they're talking about all the people they need for the heist. Yeah, we need like one of these, two of these. Like I wonder if that's, if those are real yeah, like all those things are real.
Speaker 1:it's all real, I would assume criminals.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 1:So the two head to the affluent Ruben Tishkoff's Manor in Las Vegas where they request financial backing for the job. Elliot Gould baby. I never trust a guy with gold chains, especially when it's got the star of David oh so good, that was like hell, yeah, david.
Speaker 2:Oh so good, that was like hell, yeah, let's go baby. So there used to be this guy that was. It was before me and my wife got together and he was always hanging. He, he really liked her too, yeah, but he always had that look of open shirt. Yeah, hairy chest, gold chains, and they called him gold chain Hell yeah.
Speaker 1:I hated that Really and I hated that guy Really. Yeah, I think you could crush this. Look though I probably could. You should go just like one day your wife like leaves the house. You just find like a nice stylish shirt, Make sure your chest hair is popping out. Have one like fake gold chain or something I'll have to get some costume jewelry, have some like you know, like perfectly trim your beard or whatever. Slip back your hair.
Speaker 1:Just be like Hell yeah, ever sleep back your hair, just be like hell, yeah, some big ass rings in my fingers, yeah, so stogie, shoot. She'd be like yeah, you'd be like god dang, I'm gonna do it for halloween, my husband changed.
Speaker 2:This is my life now.
Speaker 1:I didn't get used to it. I think she'd love it. I think that'd be hilarious. So apprehensive about the idea of robbing a Vegas casino, Ruben shoots off three failed attempts and asserts that it can't be done. Brings up like the bronze medal attempt. The guy barely makes it like past the slot machines.
Speaker 2:That one guy who actually tasted fresh air, yeah the flamingo in 71.
Speaker 1:The guy gets like almost he breathes through a tube after they catch him. And then Caesar 87, that's where he got outside, but then he got shot down.
Speaker 2:Yes, that was awesome. Every time you throw a bunch of shit in the air, it's great. Yeah, it's great, love it.
Speaker 1:And just as Danny and Rusty are leaving, they mention. The owner of the casinos from which they intend to steal is Terry Benedict, since Benedict and Ruben have a conflicted past as in he bought he like bought out Ruben's casino and then he's gonna tear it down. Yeah, ruben gains a newfound motivation to not be skeptical and decides to hear who they intend to recruit and they tell him so you got they definitely baited him into doing this they're very good.
Speaker 1:I mean, you got a con man with you. Come on Two con men Right and they're both hottest Working together. They're like the hottest con men you've ever seen in your life.
Speaker 2:There's nothing he could do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's nothing he could do. They just walk in and be like we're doing this. Be like I wasn't listening. I was looking in both your eyes at the same time. So they are going to get Frank Catton that we met earlier. He gets transferred to one of Benedict's casinos in Las Vegas to serve as an inside man. You get the Mallet Mallet brothers Turk.
Speaker 1:Scott Cohn and Virgil Mormons yeah, played by Casey Affleck, our humorous pair of car enthusiasts. Utah In charge of electronics is the anxious and jumpy Livingston Dell. The boy knows how to sweat, it's great. And then you got Basher Tarr. Don Cheadle is Danny and Rusty's top choice for a demolitions man, but his other project and subsequent arrests require Rusty to rescue him from the cops, which he does by impersonating an arrogant ATF agent, which is great timing.
Speaker 1:I know it's like man, how'd you know that that was gonna happen? I guess the idea is like well, I'll dress as ATF if he gets caught during this heist. How did he find out, I don't know. And if he makes it out I'll be like cool, hey, you want to do another one?
Speaker 2:Or, if he gets caught, I'll just it seems like Rusty keeps track of all these guys all the time.
Speaker 1:And apparently, like cops are almost like super easy to fool in like all these movies, which is great, yeah. But yeah, I love his accent. It's amazing because, like everything goes to plan and like him like breaking, like using the explosives to get into the, the vault that we see, it's like so satisfying how like perfectly everything hits. And then they all fall down. Then he goes in, just walks in, and it's like there's an alarm pressure, alarm Cause one guy didn't do his job.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like it's going to be great to work with proper villains. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And in San Diego they find their grease man in yin, a circus acrobat, and then they go and guilt old timer Saul Bloom, played by Carl Reiner, out of retirement in St Petersburg, florida, where they're watching the dogs race. Bloom's role is to sneak explosives into the vault by uh, posing as a crooked international arms dealer who needs a safe place to sash some precious stones with. And I love like. It's like oh yeah, saul Bloom, he's out of the game. What was it? Religion? No, ulcers. So now they have 10 people already committed. Danny goes to Chicago to recruit the young but highly skilled pickpocket.
Speaker 2:We need Matt Damon, linus, caldwell, george Clooney's, like we need one more Chicago to recruit the young but highly skilled pickpocket Linus Caldwell.
Speaker 1:Like George Clooney's, like we need one more. Who is it? Matt Damon?
Speaker 2:Matt.
Speaker 1:Damon. And now that they've have gathered Ocean's Eleven roll credits, baby, they travel to Las Vegas to organize their scheme at Ruben's house. You know, it wasn't until now. I'm like why do they call the group Ocean's Eleven? I'm like fuck.
Speaker 2:Could call it Rusty's Eleven, it's.
Speaker 1:Danny Ocean. It's his team. I'm such an idiot. All these years Over 20 years of watching this movie. I'm like why do they call it Ocean's Eleven? But yeah, so they go to Ruben's house to plan out the scheme. Danny believes they can grab over $150 million from Benedict's casinos on the night of the big boxing match. So they go there. They have their early 2000s electronic blueprint video and stuff. I'm like, how'd these guys know how to do this? They're all too handsome to know how to do this. It had to be the Dale guy, right.
Speaker 2:Ruben, yeah, probably backed it. He probably paid for the great illustration. I know, it's just like Programming and everything it's like.
Speaker 1:You got like the cages the elevators, the hallway and then the vault. It's great, it's great, it's great. I fucking love heist movies, man. They're so fun. We're going to do Heat soon, hell yeah. So after they have a general understanding of the plan, danny gives the crew members various tasks to perform before the night of the heist. While gathering information about the casino's operations, they build a replica of the vault where the large majority of the money is kept in order to rehearse a video record the act of taking the money, which is great. I love that you have Dale, the stressful guy who he's got to go into the security cameras and like make it to where they have access to.
Speaker 2:He's rolling on his hand, yeah, and he wipes his head and he's like all greasy.
Speaker 1:Such a fun little like stressful scene, though it's really good because it's like you're sweating so much, bro, but again he's trying to get away, just being so obvious yeah.
Speaker 1:And it's like with all, and it just goes to show like how the plan is going to work, because it's like a great example of why they're going to be able to get away with it. Right, because all this high tech stuff, it's always down to just these random people not paying enough attention. Because they have all this high tech stuff, there's no way anybody would be able to get in. And it's like this is why it's able to be done.
Speaker 2:Let the computers handle everything.
Speaker 1:It's just. It's great they got so comfortable with how nobody can actually steal that when someone's smart enough to do it. Like they're so confused by it. It's like I didn't know this was going to be possible. I'm sure in real life people are always trying to steal, right.
Speaker 2:Probably. I know I get a billion phone calls. I went to a gas station the other day for something. It's something small, it's like $2. The lady's like what's your phone number? I was like what, what? Why Weird. I gave it to her and I was. I was like why did I just give you my personal information for this, like pack of peanuts or whatever?
Speaker 1:yeah, for real why did you do that?
Speaker 2:I did it now I'm gonna get robbed blind oh my god, again they have your number.
Speaker 1:Now they do. I don't know what they can do with your phone number.
Speaker 2:They're gonna call me, I guess, check up on my peanut situation have you eaten them?
Speaker 1:yet? I did. They were delicious. We just have the best customer service. We make sure that every purchase went well. And then we also see that Frank and the two, the Malley boys, they're getting the van. They're like jumping on the van and then to get a better deal on the van, jumping in and then like to get a better deal on the van.
Speaker 2:Like Frank, like has this whole lotion story and he's just squeezing the shit out of his hand and it's a discount. I love watching car dealership dudes getting owned. I don't know I feel like I've been just fucked so hard by those guys.
Speaker 1:Man, you so hard by those guys. Man, you know, and I've only went to one car dealership or myself once and it was just like I walked in I was like seems like a good deal of car. Guys like here's the car, and I was like I mean, it seems pretty cheap for my, for a car with only like 13 000 miles, and I bought it and I walked out and I was like okay, that was easy yeah, I thought it was gonna be hard I mean, I feel like I probably could have talked them down, but I was like I don't know, it seems like a good price, right.
Speaker 2:When we bought our van, this butthole salesman kept us and we had a brand new baby and we needed a van because our car wasn't big enough. Did you bring the baby? We did, because we had nowhere else to go, and they held us there for like six fucking hours until like 1130 at night before they let us drive away.
Speaker 1:I will say you cannot leave a car dealership if you're actually going to buy a car. You don't get to leave unless you hit a six hour mark. Yeah, I feel like when every time I've gone, it's just been like Jesus fucking Christ how long is this going to take?
Speaker 1:I'm buying a car. It didn't even take that long to buy a house. Like the amount of time like doing paperwork or like just like cause, everything's always like do you want this house? You go see it and it's like I like this house, all right. It's like all right, we're going to get started, and then everything's just emails. It's like super quick, and then you go sign. The papers took 30 minutes and I'm like it's like it may be spread out over days, but if you put the time together, nope it's like two, three hours maybe, unless I did not do the house buying process right, but you know so far so good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've never had that too bad of an issue. My wife seems to be pretty good at getting like price down.
Speaker 2:Well, mainly because times that she's too bad at an issue.
Speaker 1:My wife seems to be pretty good at getting priced down, mainly because at times that she's gone she's like I can't do that price. They're like, well, what about this car? Don't like that car, can't do this price, can't do this price.
Speaker 2:Keep lowering it and it's just like it works every time.
Speaker 1:Keep her with you all the time. She's amazing. I love that woman. She knows how to work a car I get, so intimidated by sales.
Speaker 2:But I can't do it and I flew. I either get really angry or I just cave.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just I. I honestly, if I ever get like, if, whenever my car dies, which I'm sure is going to happen soon uh, I'm just like I don't want to do the process.
Speaker 2:I'm just going to get a bicycle.
Speaker 1:I'm going to go in and be like, yeah, I'll take that price Whatever.
Speaker 2:Let me out of here, just let me leave, yeah.
Speaker 1:Anyways. So while getting a rundown on Benedict from Linus, rusty eventually sees Tess. So it's like Linus has been the person that he's just following Benedict everywhere, like know his whole process and everything that he's doing, and then Tess walks down. Linus is like this is the best part of my day.
Speaker 2:She doesn't look that attractive in this movie really, I guess to me are you big Julia Roberts?
Speaker 1:you think she's attractive?
Speaker 2:I really liked her look in Aaron Brockovich, like with the legs and the heels, like what about pretty woman?
Speaker 1:that's fine yeah, so you like her when she, like, is less gussied up and more just like normal, like what's the movie where she drives off a cliff? What the movie where, like, she's on the run? Oh right, right, right, I own it yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know that movie, so you just kind of like her when she's like this regular gal.
Speaker 2:Maybe Instead of like.
Speaker 1:I'm walking downstairs, the stairs and I'm all make up up. Yep, I think she's a babe in this movie, well anyways. So Danny oh, it's Danny's ex-wife is now involved with Benedict, angered that Danny hadn't previously mentioned her and Benedict. He threatens to leave the job.
Speaker 2:I love how Saul's like she's too tall for him. Yeah, she really is, isn't she like 6'3".
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's so tall and this is Rusty is angered that Danny hadn't previously mentioned her. Danny admits that the job is just a ruse in order for him to win back Tess and convinces Rusty to stay by allowing the crew instead of himself to decide whether Tess could be part of this. Take Um, which of course the movie happened, so they all agree. Um, danny runs into the test while she is waiting for Benedict. They're like in the hotel, like restaurant or whatever. Uh, they have a witty back and forth. Then he tells her he wants her back. She says no, because Danny's a liar and a thief. And he's like, yeah, I guess Benedict isn't either. I only lied about being a thief, yeah. And then he asked does he make you laugh?
Speaker 1:She goes, doesn't make me cry, and it's like Julia Roberts. Ladies and gentlemen, Julia Roberts delivered the fuck out of that line.
Speaker 2:He is a fucking disgusting troll. I hate him, benedict.
Speaker 1:Yeah, ok, but he is a fucking disgusting troll and I hate him who Benedict?
Speaker 1:yes, okay, turns out they kind of all are in this movie, but they're the good guys supposed to be, um, so like a bunch of little Robin Hoods, yeah. And then we cut to Saul. He gets Benedict to store some I guess like gems for him, some precious stones, in his vault. Uh, benedict agrees that he will. Benedict walks up to Tess and Danny while they're talking and it's fun because, like, benedict and Danny are kind of like cutting each other down with like simple, just sentences, just like just you know the bit, yeah. So the day before the heist and during a rehearsal, munitions expert Basher Tarr's role is compromised. When a utilities crew repairs a faulty machine, he was going to use his advantage in order to take to cut power to the casinos on the night of the heist. I love that the building is exploding behind him, but he's watching it on the TV instead.
Speaker 2:So good I tell you know the movie smart, the sewer is all covered in shit yeah, it's great.
Speaker 1:So, needing another method for power outage, bashers suggest using a device strong enough to knock out the city's power. Called a pinch. I took a pinch earlier, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:No, okay so they take a few minutes.
Speaker 1:So the team goes to California to steal it from a research facility. While stealing the pinch, rookie Linus Caldwell is told to stay in the van.
Speaker 2:Not with these guys, not with the Malley brothers.
Speaker 1:They're so annoying. I know it's like, and they're not even that annoying I know, it's really funny yeah. I would have just been watching.
Speaker 2:Linus has probably been around it for a long, for weeks now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Like I hate these guys. He seems like a character that is, he prefers to work alone. Seems like that type of guy. It seems like Danny, but without the person's personal personal skills, oh, whatever. So, and he's like fuck it, I can't hang with these guys. So he walks into the facility as they're walking out with the thing. They're very fast with it. All he had to do is just hang out with these guys for one minute almost, yeah.
Speaker 2:He's got all the security guards chasing him around.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because they come out, they load it up, they drive away Danny's like, where's Linus. And yeah, because they come out, they load it up.
Speaker 2:they drive away Danny's like, where's Linus?
Speaker 1:And they see him going up on it and then he's like, oh shit, breaks out the window, jumps on the van, then he rolls down the wrong side of the van yeah.
Speaker 1:And then gets in and then when they close the door, yen's hands in it and breaks it. It's like damn it, linus. So when they're coming back from California the following morning, with tensions high between Linus and Dennis, the crew plays Linus into taking on a larger role when Danny would seem incapable because he is banned from the hotel. So they had to trick Linus into doing it. Yeah, just for fun, I guess.
Speaker 2:I guess, Like maybe he's too inexperienced to be able to keep his cool.
Speaker 1:That's what it seemed like, right, yeah, so Rusty is giving notes to linus. Uh, it's like last, last minute tips for him, rusty. Like he's like holding the briefcase, like you know he's gonna go into the high slater. It's like, rusty, you look down. They know you're lying up. They know you don't know the truth. Don't use seven words when four will do. Don't shift your weight. Look always at your mark, but don't stare. Be specific but not memorable. Funny, but don't make him laugh. He's got to like you and then forget you the moment you've left his side. And, for God's sakes, whatever you do, don't, under any circumstance, livingston, russ Rusty.
Speaker 2:Yeah, come look at this Sure.
Speaker 1:It's like wait. It's completely scary. It's like what's the thing I'm not supposed to do? What is the thing he's?
Speaker 2:not supposed to do? Probably something that he does. It seems like he doesn't play into it right. It must not have been that important.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so the night of the heist is the same night as the heavyweight boxing title match at MGM Grand Entertainment venue, With Livingston communicating with them. The crew positions themselves as needed for their particular expertise and roles in the job. The veteran Saul sees the explosives disguised as gemstones and used to blast open the door vault and make it down to the vault.
Speaker 2:I forgot that. That's what they were.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what, like the whole reason he puts them down. Um, the getaway drivers, turk and Virgil, ensure that Yen, who is stowed in a money transport car, gets down to the vault. He's like in this tiny little thing and he's like I guess that's why they call him the grease man, cause he fits in everywhere. He's like it's worth it. It's like, how do you explain? It's like his arms have to be up and his legs have to be straight up, and then he's got a breathing like mass thing in there.
Speaker 2:Maybe I want to get him to 30 minute oxygen tags just in case, why not fill it with five? Yeah, it could have had a couple in there, the boy could have just died, just poke holes in it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so Danny meets with Tess again to plan a cell phone on her, without her knowing. It's essentially him saying goodbye, tess, I've always loved you, liar. So he is then escorted by two of Benedict's goons to a holding room in Bellagio's cages. They leave him inside with a bruiser, a thug brought in to rough up Danny while in the holding.
Speaker 2:For like 30 minutes. Yeah, Beat the shit out of him.
Speaker 1:I know and he doesn't look too bad after the end of it.
Speaker 2:I know he didn't look bad at all.
Speaker 1:But I love it when he comes in like he punches him.
Speaker 2:He's like hey, what are you doing?
Speaker 1:It's like that's after, not right now. I know which is great.
Speaker 2:He's just friends with everybody, like he was friends with the security guard at the building where they got the floor plans. Yeah, and he knows this guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, once you're going to give everybody millions of dollars. Yeah, I guess so and he allows. Yeah, and I love it that he's like this big biker guy. It's like how did you get that job? How do you get the job?
Speaker 2:of goon of beater upper.
Speaker 1:Then Danny escapes through the ventilation system. So Frank and Linus catch Benedict off guard so that Linus can pick his pocket for a paper slip containing the main elevator codes. This is where so Linus is. Pick his pocket for a paper slip containing the main elevator codes. This is where so Linus is, I guess, like a the Nevada Gaming Commission. Yeah, and he's Representative. The whole point is that he's going to be like Frank is actually a convict, so he can't.
Speaker 1:He's been to jail Ramon is actually Frank, yeah, and all that, so he's not allowed to actually be there. And they get into this like fake racist fight Cracker. Yeah, it's like man. I can't even do cards for blackjack.
Speaker 2:Might as well call it whitejack.
Speaker 1:So good you know, we at the NGC have always hired colored people and like we're to the point of the highest, where I'm like, gee, this is fun, this is so good, they're all playing it so well and Benedict's just like constantly suspicious, like what the fuck is going on this is a weird day.
Speaker 1:I have to deal with a lot of weird characters so far. So once Linus is in the elevator, because they, benedict and them walk out, frank's like, benedict's like hey, you're fucking out of here, frank, step in here again, I'll kill you, or whatever. And then, like Linus is like shoot, I forgot my beeper. I got to go get it.
Speaker 2:Oh, man, wait, why do they have pagers when they have cell phones?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Well, I don't know.
Speaker 2:It's still not that Maybe not.
Speaker 1:Maybe not Everybody has a cell phone Transitional period yeah, cell phones. That point where we, where we didn't have a lot of technology with us all the time constantly, but we had a little bit and it was really weird.
Speaker 2:What was that?
Speaker 1:even like I don't know, good old days, I guess At least it's easy to travel now.
Speaker 2:Now I can look at boobs anywhere I want, anywhere.
Speaker 1:But but then like Benedict's, like you know your way out, and it's like, yeah, and it's like what, benedict? I mean I guess he believes him. So Linus looks successful. Then we see Saul. He's faking a heart attack inside the eye in the sky and living scene alters the casino's security security system, camera monitoring system, jesus so do you think that Saul was practicing this, this like heart attack or whatever?
Speaker 2:Yeah, every time he looked sick.
Speaker 1:I think he was getting nervous and his ulcers were acting up and he was like maybe he was getting nervous that he couldn't do the thing or I don't know, the guy's just a professional, I guess.
Speaker 2:He's really good at his job.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so Linus opens the elevator hatch where Danny awaits the chef in the shaft, scaring Linus. And finds out he was played by Danny and Rusty and he's like what wait.
Speaker 2:Where's the fun in that?
Speaker 1:where's the cause Linus is like why didn't you just tell me he's like what's the fun in that?
Speaker 2:he's like what about the argument between you and Rusty?
Speaker 1:yeah, they obviously didn't believe the Linus a little bit I think it was because of his whole issue from earlier. They're like we can't trust you, but then he says he can trust him now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, which, whatever so.
Speaker 1:Rusty disguises himself as a doctor, responding to Saul's fake heart attack. Yeah, and he's like, he's like doing CPR, it's like damn it we lost him.
Speaker 2:Give it a mouth to mouth.
Speaker 1:So he has the wheel, saw out of the Cisino on a stretcher. Basher readies the pinch to activate on Livingston's cube and grabs his balls. Yeah, and so when it goes off like oh, the entire city loses power and at that point the boxing match is going on so it cuts to black. The power outage is going nuts. Yeah, the like mayhem. Like everybody in the, the two boxers are starting to actually fight each other and like everybody when the lights go out, everybody in the casino are just stealing chips and they're just getting beat up and it's like I never thought everyone would immediately become psychopaths.
Speaker 1:Yes, if they have the chance. Money, money Just laying around. So if Las Vegas loses power, run for your life.
Speaker 2:Just get under a table.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so Linus and Danny zip line down the elevator shaft and knock out two guards to get to the door of the elevator, to get to the door of the vault. I love it. I was like man, I do not remember this Mission Impossible shit in this movie.
Speaker 2:do not remember this mission impossible shit in this movie. And it's funny that the lasers are always visible, because I don't think that's the thing, but you know, whatever.
Speaker 1:It's still cool. It's classic movie stuff, you know. Yeah, this is like Catherine Zeta-Jones in Entrapment. Yes, catherine Zeta-Jones, she dips beneath lasers. We're colleagues. So with some nice moves from Yen, he was able to set explosives to blow the vault door. I love it, because was it Franken? What's his name?
Speaker 2:Ted Buck says he shorts it, he's like nobody.
Speaker 1:He does this flip, he almost falls down, he goes too far. And then, when he's putting the things onto the vault door, you have Linus and Danny on the other side. They're about to explode the door, but he gets his cast stuck and he's like, oh God dang it.
Speaker 2:He's like bracing for the explosion.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like, dude, you're going to die and so. But when his hand gets stuck, the door's about to blow but the explosives don't go off because he forgot to put batteries in it. And luckily Linus had some batteries, giving Yen time to get to safety. I love Yen. I love that he speaks only Chinese and everybody seems to understand what he's saying. A little broken English.
Speaker 2:Yeah, chinese, and everybody seems to understand what he's saying. A little broken english, yeah, well, I don't think they understand him. I think they just kind of get his. Uh, they get that he understands them well, they they?
Speaker 1:I don't know, it's just funny yeah it's like it's like when chewbacca talks and like honk nose.
Speaker 2:They know yeah they just kind of hear it. It's like listening to the robot. How the fuck do you know it's?
Speaker 1:like when my cats meow, like usually.
Speaker 2:I'm like I sometimes know yeah, you spend enough time with a chewbacca. You kind of yeah, you kind of get it not comparing chewbacca's times, people.
Speaker 1:That's not what we're doing here. We're talking about language talking about, yeah, getting over the language barrier yeah exactly so as ben as Benedict and Tess leave the arena, the phone planted on Tess rings and she picks up with hesitation because she's like I don't have a cell phone On the other end of the call. Rusty immediately requests.
Speaker 2:What a crazy thing to say yeah, it's like I don't have a cell phone.
Speaker 1:It's 2001. We don't have this yet. Rusty immediately requests to speak with Benedict. Aggressively, benedict demands the identity of the caller. Rusty doesn't give his name, but begins to confess that Benedict is at the very moment being robbed. Benedict and Tess immediately head for the eye in the sky. Love that name, by the way. If I had like For the control room, yeah, if I had any sort of camera like you know, like ring camera, I'd call it the eye in the sky, yes, the eye in the door. So as Rusty. Eye of Seldron, oh, even fucking better, dude, that's great. So, as Rusty continues, livingston feeds the security monitoring system a recording of the crew's rehearsed robbery, allowing Benedict to get the impression his vault was being robbed right under his nose. We don't know this yet, right, which makes this so fun.
Speaker 2:I robbed right under his nose. We don't know this yet, right, which makes this so fun. I also didn't know about Saul having a heart attack, and that made me feel bad for him. Yeah, I've already seen the movie before, but, like you know, yeah.
Speaker 1:So Rusty tells him that theft is only for half of the amount in the vault and that the other half will be booby-trapped. He continues saying if Benedict tries to hinder the theft at any time, he will destroy both the stolen half and the half left behind as collateral. So after Benedict sees this, he asks Tess to leave the room. Irritated by his request, she goes. As Tess walks through this casino floor, she runs into Rusty.
Speaker 2:That would be one of the coolest things to watch a heist in action.
Speaker 1:I know I'd be like no, tess, I'm test.
Speaker 2:We're broken up, but I'm staying right here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like screw this, we can break up, but I'm watching this in action. This is awesome yeah.
Speaker 2:I felt so bad for Saul when he's going down the rope, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, he could have set this one out, I know right. So she runs into Rusty while the ransom she asks about Danny. Rusty tries to alleviate her concern and asks her to go up to her hotel room. He's covering the cell phone with his hand. Benedict instructs his manager Walsh to call for a SWAT team. The call is intercepted by Livingston impersonating a dispatcher. Once Walsh is assured service, benedict agrees to Rusty's demands. Hell, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's a really cool twist. Are they like threatening to blow up the money? I don't remember that at all. Yeah, I know, because it's like you really got him in a pinch here.
Speaker 1:It's like I could only lose half or I lose it all. Yeah, it's just like you're still going to piss a lot of people off if you lose. I'm sure he's wealthy enough to cover the other 80 million, right?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, for sure. If we make that a day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, it's all gonna be insured. So it's just, nobody will trust that casino anymore. Yeah, like they'd be, like I can't put my money here anymore. So Rusty then gives Benedict instructions for the secure transport of the money out and away from the casino, threatening to destroy both halves Should Benedict try to hinder the process at any time. Disguised as the requested SWAT, until Rusky unit Rusty, frank Turk, livingston Basher and Saul arrive at the casino's entrance, they proceed through the casino down to the vault where they meet Danny, linus and Yen. I love it because you can hear their voices, so you know that it's them.
Speaker 2:It's the same voices he was just talking to.
Speaker 1:I know, it's just a little bit more country, it's just a little different.
Speaker 2:It kind of sounds like him from Inglourious Bastards.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I wonder if they're like do that voice. But I'm trying to think I watched this as a kid. I'm sure I fell for it.
Speaker 1:I can't remember now because you know once you watch it, you always remember, but like as a kid I'm pretty sure like that could be anybody, because we're a bunch of country kids. So, with Benedict in his security room overseeing their impersonated SWAT unit, they have him cut the power to the vault so there is no light. But maintain radio contact with Benedict. Maintain radio contact with Benedict. Benedict listens as they act as if they could confront the robbers with gunfire and a loud explosion happens immediately after. Benedict angrily orders Walsh to capture the van which was on its way to McCarran Airport that was used to transport half the money out of the casino.
Speaker 2:And Ruben's always around, like in different he's in all these different places Like he was at the casino watching the fight. Different he's in all these different places, like he was at the casino watching the fight, and then he's in the car with him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is constantly everywhere. He wants to see everything.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah, I would too, because he hates Benedict. He paid for all of it, yeah.
Speaker 1:So he then storms out of the security room and down to the vault At the airport Benedict's men pursuing the van attempt to capture it In a nearby car. Ruben and Virgil watch as Virgil operates the van's movements by remote control.
Speaker 1:He's like I just kind of want to mess with him for a second. So in the vault, the crew convinced Benedict that the robbers used the explosions to escape without a trace. Irritated Benedict orders the crew to leave the casino. He's like, no, we should probably stay. And he's like no, get out of here. He's like no, we should probably stay. And he's like no, get out of here. He's like, well, it's your vault. Then contacts Walsh for an update concerning the van. After Benedict's men discover that no person was inside the van, virgil sets off an incendiary incendiary inside it. Jesus Christ, both Benedict and his men at the airport find that all the stolen money was neither in the vault nor in the van. Instead, the bags were, which were supposed to be filled with cash, were filled with adult advertisements in the form of flyers yeah sex workers.
Speaker 1:All the cops are like oh, let me keep this just in case. Oh man, this is so fucking good, it's so funny.
Speaker 2:Do you think he realized that that they were flyers immediately, because he walked in there and there was some money and coins and stuff, but like most of it was flyers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, I think I don't even think he really realizes. Well, I don't think there was flyers in the In the vault, yeah there were yeah yeah, there was flyers in the in the vault. The other word yeah, yeah, there was. I think what he noticed first was the fact that uh the name.
Speaker 1:Uh, yeah, wasn't on the floor, yeah, because, as he walks around his destroyed vault, benedict noticed the bellagio logo on the floor, which had been very recently installed. He immediately cross-checks the authenticity of the theft by asking walsh to review the tape in the security room, and it's not there. So it's a pretty much just an entire setup. Benedict infers that they were watching from the security room earlier with stage. Curiously, he heads to the holding room where Danny was taken. I love it. He arrives to find Bruiser convincingly giving Danny a beatdown, even though he should be way bloodier.
Speaker 2:He was really bad at faking all that. Yeah, he's like oh God.
Speaker 1:It's like you had enough. It's like you've been beaten for 30 minutes. You should be black and blue all over. You should be bleeding a lot. Should have punched him a little harder before he got in there.
Speaker 2:For sure this movie shit, though, break a couple ribs.
Speaker 1:It's like George Clooney is like this handsome face.
Speaker 2:My moneymaker.
Speaker 1:You have to make it to where I look beaten and sexy at the same time, okay oh yeah, so they have one little smudge on his cheek of blood a little bit a little bit blood on his little collar yeah, he asked danny if he was involved in the theft, but danny plays clueless, so benedict decides to let him leave, so he's just getting beaten because of trying to get back with his wife.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the whole reason for the heist summed up in this one little shot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so good. Anxiously waiting in her hotel room, tess gets a call from Livingston who instructs her to watch Channel 88. When she turns on the television, she sees Danny, benedict, his two goons and Breezer walking down the hallway, exiting the cages. Danny suspiciously asks Benedict if he had just been robbed, prompting Benedict to ask again about Danny's involvement. Danny, it's like Danny, just fucking rules.
Speaker 2:Danny offers.
Speaker 1:Benedict a deal to recover Benedict's money in exchange for Tess. When Benedict agrees to the condition, tess picks up her things and leaves the room. He's like man, I just made so much money and did this elaborate plan just to be like hey. By the way, the dude you're with is a douche.
Speaker 2:That's how hard it is to convince your ex-wife that the person she's with is an asshole.
Speaker 1:You have to go through this whole process.
Speaker 2:But I think she would have also still been mad at Daniel.
Speaker 1:A little bit.
Speaker 2:Like she wouldn't have gone back to him immediately. I don't think.
Speaker 1:And it's like you probably could have gave her a month with this Benedict guy and she would have figured all this out. Yeah, maybe she should have known whenever. Because earlier in the film they're like looking at art yeah, she was going to go in for a kiss. He's like I got cameras everywhere and it's like, okay, he's a douche. Yeah, that's, he couldn't even tell her what he thought of the painting. He's like I just like that. You like it Like I'm a psychopath. I think it's just. I think when you're that wealthy and you have so much stress in your life around these vaults, yeah, that it's just like. Because when you look at Benedict throughout this movie, it's like is he really that bad of a guy? He has so many other people's monies in this place right.
Speaker 1:The only thing is of course he's not going to be a good husband. This is a very stressful job.
Speaker 2:Neither is Danny Right.
Speaker 1:They're not that different, so Benedict's not that bad of a guy. Of course, a guy who owns a casino is going to beat the shit out of people who try to steal. That's what casinos do. Tess already knows that, so it's just like Well she didn't know that he does it.
Speaker 2:She never gets to see a side of Terry. Yeah, but it's a casino.
Speaker 1:Other than when he's working. Everybody's known since the 30s. If they even had casinos back then, this is what you do to people who rob. I don't know If they rob, they're either going to get beat up in jail or beat up here. It's like which one's better? She likes bad boys, yeah, I guess. So it was just kind of one of those things where I was like benedict, he's a dick, but kind of everybody in this movie is right. So it's like he's not like in I don't know. I guess I just find, uh, what's his name? Garcia. Uh, the actor, I kind of actually just find him charming too in a weaselly way, I don't know. So, um, yeah, yeah, she picks up her stuff, leaves the room.
Speaker 1:Danny tells Benedict he could find the culprits with the help of an ex-con acquaintance for his I know a guy Acquaintance of his in 72 hours, only three days. So, not convinced, benedict denies the deal. He then has Danny escorted out of the casino and into custody of the local law enforcement, violating his parole. Afterwards, benedict arrives at one of the casino's elevators. When the doors open, he sees Tess inside. The two exchange eye contact and silence for a moment. Then she brushes past him.
Speaker 1:He calls to her and she turns around only to tell him that she was watching him at some point, and after he had her leave this, after he had her leave the security room, it's like I got eyes everywhere in this hotel.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's like you should know better than anyone. Yeah, there's always someone watching, always someone. Yeah, that was the actual line, but Terry is really smart, he figured it all out pretty quickly. Yeah, like how they did the whole thing I was like damn, Didn't expect any someone to have this amount of money to do this.
Speaker 1:Why. It seems like he had plenty of money just to do whatever you wanted anyways. So instead of stopping here, benedict enters the elevator. He's like fuck, I lost.
Speaker 2:Which is great. He's already planning his revenge. Yeah, because you kind of see he's even got like a little bit of a smirk on his face because he's thinking about all the shitty things he's going to do to these people.
Speaker 1:And I also think it was just like damn, that was like that was a good god damn heist, nice play. Yeah, it's like you, I think even it's like after he was like all he gets back to his room is like probably like golly. These guys deserve this money at this point.
Speaker 2:I know he just immediately gets to work on him yeah.
Speaker 1:so Tess quickens her pace as she's walking through the casino, then runs through the casino to leave. Once outside she sees Danny being walked into a police car, referring to him as her husband. Aw, she calls out and runs to them as they're nearly about to drive away. The two exchange goodbyes and the car drives off, leaving her standing by the valet station alone.
Speaker 1:I feel like Julia's character could have had if they would have given her a best friend to hang out with her to could have had if they would have given her like a best friend to hang out with her to like help, keep her like she'd be like nah, you ain't going back to him, don't talk to her, we're going to go find some men in the casino, the best place to meet people.
Speaker 1:So, having successfully accomplished their tasks, the rest of the crew, dressed in normal attire, gather around the Bellagio's fountain displayed during a show. They watch contently, in silence and satisfaction, as the show continues. They leave, one by one, going their separate ways. It's wonderful. So originally they're supposed to just be walking down the road and then slowly like walking away from each other, but then, like I guess Soderbergh was, like let's do it in front of this fountain. And he's just like all right, when y'all feel it's time to go, just like look at this fountain, being proud of yourselves and like how great the show is or whatever the fountains, and then, whenever you feel good, walk away, first person that's supposed to walk away?
Speaker 2:It's Brad Last. You would have been able to contain your excitement from what you just did.
Speaker 1:I would just be like you know, as we see this SWAT car kind of leaving the place and going to where they're going to hide the SWAT car, I'd be like this is so good, we're so smart.
Speaker 2:Then I'd be paranoid forever. Hope Danny's not dead.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'd be like, alright, well, I'm going to another country now forever. Yeah, I'd be like all right, well, I'm going to another country now forever. Yeah, yeah, for sure. So three to six months after the job.
Speaker 2:That's how long he said he was going to be gone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then I love like the title card pops up three to six months later, danny is released from the same prison.
Speaker 2:Rusty stands outside the front gate. Hope you were the groom. Yeah, yeah it's great.
Speaker 1:They give each other friendly insults and head towards Rusty's car. Hope you were the groom Ted Nugent called. He wants your shirt back Along the way. Rusty subtly points out that Benedict's two goons are in the nearby vehicle. In the back of Rusty's car seat sits Tess. Danny joins her, the two kiss and Rusty drives off and away. Not far behind Benedict's men follow Cut to black. Yeah, yeah, drives off and away, not far behind Benedict's men follow Cut to black. Yeah, yeah, fuck, yeah, hell yeah, that was great.
Speaker 2:Watch the next one right now.
Speaker 1:I know they're not as good. I think 13's probably. I think I enjoyed 13 more than 12.
Speaker 2:I just saw 12. I never saw 13. Watch all of them.
Speaker 1:They're all great it's. I think maybe I'm getting it wrong. I think 13,. They're just like. Is that the one where they steal the Fabergé egg Dude? I can't remember, man, I actually got the heist confused from one of the other movies. I was like didn't it all go wrong at some point? But that's in one of the other ones.
Speaker 2:I love the dancing thief guy in the next scene, the rival thief. I can't remember which one he's in. I can't remember either, but that's the one with the.
Speaker 1:Fabergé egg. I didn't realize how much I thought these all blended together, like I remember how this one begins and then like how the crew comes together. But I was just like afterwards I was like how does this heist go? Which heist is this? But yeah, love it. Love, a good fun heist movie. Hell, yeah, it's like just give me 15 of these Over. It's like just give me 15 of these Over and over.
Speaker 2:We should be at Ocean's 20 right now. Ocean's just giving orders from, like, the hospital.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're the breathing machine. So yeah, that's Ocean's 11. We're going to do a couple categories. The first one is the good, the bad, the ugly, the fine. It's where we discuss the good of the film, something we like, the bad, something we didn't like. The ugly one is the good, the bad, the ugly, the fine. It's where we discuss the good of the film, something we like, the bad, something we didn't like. The ugly, something that didn't age well. To find something that did age well. The good to me is like the stylish slick editing and the look of it and the directing. Obviously, the performances. Yeah, just get some of the like hell yeah, your favorite people.
Speaker 2:That was my favorite too.
Speaker 1:Just all of them together in one movie, so it's always the best shit and I'll put down in my notes avengers wish they could assemble a movie like this oh yeah, they do. They couldn't heist anything. They tried an in-game where they're gonna like get a time machine gym, the power, gym stones, whatever, okay, yeah sure which was fun. But you know, I don't know. It's just, there's something so sleek about this movie that just like yes, yeah like the uh.
Speaker 2:Intelligent heist to me is always better than just brute force.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly like there was no fighting in this. It's just like people use their smarts and skills and money to get into places thick as thieves. Yeah, I don't know, it's just.
Speaker 2:It's like a, an adult person's fun movie right, well, yeah, by um, I was watching it this morning and my eight-year-old, my seven-year-old? No, how old is she? Five, she's five.
Speaker 1:Six, she's six, she I have no idea how old she is at this point I forget sometimes.
Speaker 2:She really liked the part where they're uh, the Mormon brothers are racing the car and he runs it over.
Speaker 1:She laughed so hard at that? Did she enjoy the whole movie? No, she had to go to school.
Speaker 2:Oh, that makes sense I keep her out of school to watch movies.
Speaker 1:Dude, wish you were my dad.
Speaker 2:We do get them out of school to watch movies.
Speaker 1:Sometimes movies, Jason adopt me. Oh yeah, because y'all got them out of the movie.
Speaker 2:Minecraft. Yeah, that was awesome. We had a great time.
Speaker 1:We were in the theater with all the homeschoolers if you, literally if any parent wanted to take me out of school to watch any movie, even if it sucked, I'd be like this is a pretty good movie if you ask me I don't care how bad, this movie is pretty good movie. If you ask me, I don't care how bad this movie is pretty good movie. If I got out of school early, um, for the bad I said uh, the fact that it's a perfect movie.
Speaker 2:I guess that's I guess that's bad, I don't know I don't really have anything bad, and the only thing that I thought was a little ugly was the dog race oh yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1:I hate that that's still a thing, and the fact that his dog was so far in last place he's like oh fuck it, everybody knows this.
Speaker 2:Like how he breaks at the end, yeah, and it's just like nope, dog, didn't? He's very far behind have you ever been to a dog race? I haven't. We spent one day there a long time ago, me and my friends, and like at the time I was having a blast. Until afterwards you realize like these dogs have pretty shitty. Me and my friends, and like at the time I was having a blast, yeah, until afterwards you realize like these dogs have pretty shitty existence.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which sucks. I mean like if I had like a super fast dog that could win races, I'd be like this dog will be pampered for the rest of life, right?
Speaker 2:I mean, I think, yeah, there's like adoption agencies that try to adopt out these greyhounds, really, because once they're done with them, they either just get killed or they just get thrown out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it's like horse races and stuff like that Same thing.
Speaker 2:I didn't know about horses, horse shows.
Speaker 1:Horse shows, they treat those horses terribly.
Speaker 2:I don't think not even horses deserve that. And I'm saying a lot and he hates horses, man horses.
Speaker 1:Um man, do you like greyhounds with the dogs? I think they're beautiful. Yeah, awesome, apparently they're crazy dogs. Don't, because obviously you have to have.
Speaker 2:I think they're a racing track to keep them. There's this one tiktok creator that dresses her greyhound up and all these like fancy outfits, is it?
Speaker 1:like the small greyhound it's like t or something, maybe yeah, and it's like this tiny, like miniature greyhound looking thing, uh, I, I think, I I think it's like named iggy or something like that. Yeah, uh, it's so cute. It kind of like trembles, like a little bit of a chihuahua does.
Speaker 1:I do, I do like you know. My wife works in uh vet medicine or whatever and uh, so you know she knows all like about the breeds and how they act and stuff and she's's like Greyhounds, no we can't do that and I was like, but they're so cute, but I like you know their skin is like so thin Apparently, you can like see through. Yeah, that's awesome, but yeah, they're adorable looking they are.
Speaker 1:So yeah, little faces For the ugly for me is like there's no fucking way you find all these thieves and they're all hot. Insane. Is that just like something that is true, Because I mean all the thief movies, because they're actors, they're all attractive. But like back in the day, when you had like the thief movies, like the movie Thief, I'm like, no, none of these people are attractive. It's like I feel like this is more realistic?
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe, but, like a lot of them are also con men and I think in order to be a con man, I don't think you have to be super attractive, but I think it helps you have to be like you saw Lost, like Sawyer, where it's like he's attractive but also kind of not attractive, but he's like he's a man, you know, and I feel like you have to look like a man, and and like what I mean by that is like you look like a goddamn man right.
Speaker 1:Like this person could take care of me, type of look to him, even though he might not be super attractive, but he looks like a man, you know. Yeah, sure, I guess I just wanted to say the word man. A lot For the fine. I said heist movies, baby. Yeah, fuck, yeah, anytime there's a heist movie I'm down to watch. Just even if it was bad, I'd be like pretty good heist movie. Um and soderbergh, it's kind of the king of heist movies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's a lot of them really three oceans movie, and um, he did all three other oceans oh well, yeah and uh, he's got logan lucky, which is like redneck version of this movie that's great and um, that other movie that I what was it? Shit, shit, shit shit with george clooney and j-lo, um oh, it's really good, it's really good. You just said it earlier. Yep, I did, and it's called out of sight, which is fun. I can't remember if that's a whatever, I'll cut this. Um, but yeah, sutterberg, he's just an excellent director.
Speaker 1:And I feel like he's not as known of a name, but the guy's just kind of one of the smartest directors we have and we don't appreciate him enough. What do you got for the fine?
Speaker 2:No, I think that pretty much sums it up. I love heist movies. I mean there are some bad ones and I think over the years you go back. If you go back and watch older heist movies, they're just not as good, yeah. But this one really held up more than the others, yeah. So I think maybe it's just defined as so to work.
Speaker 1:We'll be doing a few more. Like Michael Mann does some good heist movies Heat and Thief. I've never seen the Sting and Thief. I've never seen the Sting. I need to watch that. That's like known as like the best heist movie. It's like where most heist movies get their ideas and like the whole like planning out. Like most heist movies that you see stem from the Sting.
Speaker 1:Oh nice I need to watch it. I need to, yeah, so that's that category. We're going to do our next one Double feature. It's a movie we recommend. Alongside this movie, I picked what I earlier said Logan, lucky Ocean's Eleven but redneck.
Speaker 1:It's hilarious, it's like everybody and it's so dumb. It's got Channing Tatum and he's just such a dimwit. That's great. But it's so great because they're all really funny and you know, this is when everybody's like wait, channing Tatum's kind of like one of the funniest people alive and he's hot as hell. Adam Driver he's in it. Daniel Craig Come on, man, it's great. Katie Holmes, riley Keough that sounds really good. I have to check it out. Oh, I think it's on like Amazon. Yeah, it's on Netflix, so go watch it. It's just down on their luck. You know, lower middle class, or just not even lower middle class, just poor, poor people in the country. It stems around like a NASCAR race too. Wow, that's wild, it's amazing, it's great. So what do you got for double feature?
Speaker 2:Another George Clooney heist movie Three Kings.
Speaker 1:Three Kings David O Russell russell. Yeah, I really like that one yeah, I haven't seen that in wait, have I ever? No, I've watched it as a kid because that's got um we're stealing all the kuwaiti gold because I think that has what's his fucking name? Yeah, it's got spike jones, mark walberg and ge and George Clooney Ice Cube. Yeah, because Spike Jonze, he did like Her the movie Her. Yeah, he's a great director himself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a great recommendation, Fun. So yeah, that's our discussion. Ocean's Eleven. So make sure you join us next week as we're going to do Tom Cruise's first villain role, collateral. Michael Mann, baby I was just talking about it's a really fun movie. Sounds like you got man on the brain. Yeah, I got man on the brain. Yeah, I've been saying man a lot, haven't I? Yeah, that's great. Make sure you join us next week for that.
Speaker 2:It's a god dang banger baby and Tom Cruise is a silver fox. Yeah, he's a coyote, doesn't he have gray hair in that one? Yeah, or like silver hair.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's wonderful that we're talking about Tom Cruise, because the Mission Impossible is about to come out, which has gotten not very good reviews, which is crazy because all but one of those movies ever gotten bad reviews essentially the second one. Yeah, Join us next week for that and leave us some fan mail. You can go in the description. We got a link at the top or our email at the bottom. It's werecommendmailbag at gmailcom. Love to hear from you. Leave us some reviews, baby. Come on, do it please, or we'll heist us some reviews.
Speaker 2:We'll send you pictures of Jesse's feet. Yeah, reviews. We'll send you pictures of Jesse's feet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and one of them has a bruise, because every time I wake up I kick my dog's kennel. Yay, yeah. And I'd like to thank Joey Prosser for our intro and outro music. You can follow him on X at Mr Joey Prosser. And god dang it. This has been the we Recommend Podcast.
Speaker 2:I'm Jesse, I'm Jason and uh heist baby we're gonna steal out of here. Bye.
