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John Wick
"People keep asking if I'm back, and I haven't really had an answer. But now, yeah, I'm thinking I'm back." With these words, Keanu Reeves launched not just a character, but an entire action franchise that would redefine the genre for a generation.
In this episode, we break down what makes John Wick such a revolutionary action film. From its crystal-clear fight choreography to its meticulously crafted criminal underworld, this movie created a new gold standard for action cinema that countless films have tried to replicate since. We explore how former stuntmen Chad Stahelski and David Leitch leveraged their practical experience to create fight scenes with unprecedented clarity and impact, letting audiences see every punch, shot, and grapple without the frantic editing that plagued so many action films before it.
If you love action movies with substance, join us for this deep dive into the film that announced to the world that not only was Keanu Reeves back - he was better than ever. And remember, whatever you do, don't kill a man's dog.
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Hello and welcome to the we Recommend podcast, a movie podcast, where every week we recommend a movie for you to watch and then come back here and listen to us discuss. I'm Jesse, I'm Jason, I'm Dakota. People keep asking if I'm back and I haven't really had an answer. But now, yeah, I'm thinking I'm back because this week we recommend John Wick. Baby.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Dude, he could have been.
Speaker 3:Batman.
Speaker 2:He should have been Batman.
Speaker 1:He is a great Batman voice when he does that, it's wild Cool. So before we get into it, right, I don't think I've asked anybody this question in this room. What makes a great action movie to you? And I'm doing weird.
Speaker 2:Well, bullets, explosions, yeah it depends.
Speaker 4:I think it would depend on how you, because I have different classifications of what makes a good movie like what I'm going into it. I think John Wick to me is its own classification now, because of the stunts and Keanu doing his own thing, I feel like it's like Jackie Chan level of action.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Like you're going to have a lot of stunts in there for like body yeah, body stunts versus like action. That's just like over the top effects and explosions and just leaning into that. I love that. That's like when you lean into what you are and knowing your own genre. Like 80s movies are so fucking fun to watch action in 80s movies.
Speaker 1:I think. For me it varies on movie but I think if the movie has a clear idea of what type of action it wants to do, if it wants to do over the top, then let's do over the top, but it has to stay in that same realm, exactly. Because, like John Wick, think about the part where the car towards the end. The car falls kind of a far way at the harbor and it doesn't explode.
Speaker 3:What?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's great because the whole time the movie has been realistic air quotes because, you know, I don't fucking think people can just keep doing this over and over.
Speaker 1:But at least like in terms of the fighting and like the way things aren't just exploding everywhere. It's like, ah, it's more of a realism. But if it's going to be like a Michael Bay movie and everything's batshit crazy, that's okay for everything to explode, and also clarity in terms of the action. I have to know what's going on, and if I don't know what's going on, I don't like it. The movie I always come back to is Alien Covenant. I don't know if y'all remember watching that. It is so jittery and it cuts like crazy, Like when the two robots Michael Fassbender's fight. It's unbearable to watch. It's been a while since I've seen it and I was literally like in my chair watching in the theater, like what are we doing, Scott? But in this you know it's very clear what's happening. It looks great.
Speaker 4:Well, that's like I think I mentioned that in one of the episodes before. Maybe it was pre-talk before it. It was when I went and watched the first Bourne movie and the shaky and everything. I was like I can't, there's too much like what is happening right now. Yeah, we can't focus on a single fight. Paul Greengrass that's like his style. I hated it.
Speaker 4:Because after watching John Wick and I went on Jackie Chan thing for a while watching because there's stunts. He does Watch Police Story everybody. I didn't need to watch that. Wait, which one was that?
Speaker 1:one. It's a police story. Is that like Rush Hour? No, it's a. It's like one of his.
Speaker 4:I think it's like earlier works and Jackie Chan and it cracked me up, but Clear Action. Once I kind of figured out that's what that is when I enjoyed that it's hard to watch, like when I went back to try and watch Transformers. Everyone talks about how they can't watch anything and I didn't realize how much when the robots are just fighting they're like blending together. I I have no idea what's going on.
Speaker 2:They're just fighting over Mrs Fox.
Speaker 4:It's the same thing that happened in the first Venom movie at the end, where the bad guy and Venom are fighting at night and Venom's black and the other guy is like dark, dark red or something and they're fused together fighting. I have no idea what's going on.
Speaker 2:Well, it's got to be about color, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, those yeah, and it's kind of like Transformers, where it's like I don't know who the bad guy is, like we have to figure out how to make things look more clear.
Speaker 4:Well, I think Rise of the Beast or something it was better, yeah, the day at one point where they're fighting and it's not like a bunch of things tackling at once. And the thing with Michael Bay's Transformers they have a lot more mechanical parts showing, so there's a lot darker. Ooh, dakota, your mechanical parts are showing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the one where all the Transformers kind of start grinding together.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like are they fighting or what?
Speaker 4:Yeah versus like, because in the rise of the beast they all have more like. A classic design, is that?
Speaker 1:gorilla humping that semi truck I hope so they do love each other. Ooh, stick it in my tailpipe how do transformers have sex? I don't think they do. I think they. Just they have to.
Speaker 4:They don't well, I mean our female transformers.
Speaker 1:They do pee in one yeah, bumblebee pees on John Totoro and on John Turturro and they also have nuts because remember in the second one the giant one that fused from like five of them.
Speaker 4:He's like where are you at? He's like I'm under the balls.
Speaker 1:I'm actually getting really upset that we're talking so much about the shitty movies All right. Keanu Reeves right. Yeah, I want y'all to do something Between, do something between Matrix, the final Matrix movie and John Wick. Name three Keanu Reeves movies. There weren't any.
Speaker 4:Between John Wick and the Matrix. Was that Knock at the Door? Was that after John Wick? I think?
Speaker 1:Knock, knock Year after.
Speaker 4:Can't name anything right.
Speaker 1:Because he didn't do anything right. Wow, this guy literally cannot die Once you think he's out.
Speaker 4:He pulls you right back in. Well, you know why he did that right.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, he just didn't do any movies that are that memorable. Well, and I know that he had some personal issues.
Speaker 4:Well, I think in the beginning of the Matrix and before it, his wife died and like or their child like their child had like well, their child, like she had a miscarriage or something. It was stillborn and then his wife died not long after that. But he was already doing the Matrix and he finished that up and I think after it finished he just kind of took some time away to like, because he's a very like, Did he get a dog? I think he took some time away to like, just Came back to murder movies.
Speaker 1:Yeah well, so between Matrix, revolutions and John Wick, he did 15 movies oh dang, so he wasn't, so he just he, just like he was, like he just didn't pick any good projects.
Speaker 3:I will say this I did expect you guys to say one, and that was Constantine.
Speaker 4:I didn't know that. Oh, I did love Constantine. That's kind of the. That's a good movie and for me like.
Speaker 3:I like something's got to give he's. So you guys to say one, and that was Constantine.
Speaker 4:I didn't know, that, oh, I did love Constantine I haven't even seen it.
Speaker 1:That's kind of the. That's a good movie and for me, like I like Something's.
Speaker 4:Gotta Give. He's so fucking hot in that movie. Constantine's just a good like supernatural like.
Speaker 2:I do. He was fighting demons, right. Yeah, I think that Hales in the Coffin or something, thinking that was a cool.
Speaker 4:He does a good job in that role. That movie was just good. It used to come on like what if stars HBO all the time and I would watch it like I bought, like the. I think about the 4K steelbook Recently.
Speaker 1:Well, it's just wild because we think of him as such a big action star, right, like really his best action movies. You got Point Break. It's just wild because we think of him as such a big action star, right, like really his best action movies. You got Point Break, which we know Jason's a fan it always gets Rob back up Jason, you're very much in the minority there and then like he goes from like all right, so 91 up until Speed in 94. He does Speed, one of the great action movies, Shut up, Jason.
Speaker 1:I think that's his best acting performance he's ever done, and then he goes from 94 to the Matrix, and then he does from 99 to, let's see, reloaded is 2003,. Or, yeah, revolution is also 2003. So that's his action. And then Rom-Com, rom-com, rom-com, Constantine, the weird Scanner Darkly movie, but that's, you know, just voice acting.
Speaker 2:I always kind of wanted to see that I watched the trailer.
Speaker 4:Yeah, my boss sent me a trailer and I was like this is Robert Downey Jr and Keanu. What is this?
Speaker 1:Richard Linklater Dazed and Confused and things like that.
Speaker 4:I love.
Speaker 1:Dazed and Confused he loves to do like kind of experimental things, um, but then he does like a lot of like, really like b movie type, like 47, ronin man of tai chi, movies like that, um, that are just like nobody really likes or talks about ever. And then he does john wick. It's just wild. He almost could add that trajectory of um trajectory, not trajectory of being like bruce willis, where it's just nothing but these low budget kind of like movies where he shows up for five minutes to film and sometimes they have to get an actor to like portray the back of his head because he decided not to come out of his trailer that day.
Speaker 1:Stand in, and it's just wild. Like you know, like when I look at his filmography I'm like he's been in my life, my entire life, and I've always thought of him as like. When I think about actors and stuff, I'm like have I even really watched that many movies of his? It's just like the same five or six over and over and I'm like he's the best god dang bad actor you've ever seen it's like he could have been like Nick Cage for a while, but he never really.
Speaker 1:He's this weird.
Speaker 4:He's gotten lucky yeah, well, I think he's just not like.
Speaker 1:Nick. Cage and Taylor Swift are the same.
Speaker 4:Think about that you see what Nick Cage looks like currently for his role as John Madden.
Speaker 3:I think I saw a little bit. He's gonna be John.
Speaker 4:Madden. I don't know if that's a fat suit or if he actually got fat.
Speaker 2:That sucks to think about he's already.
Speaker 1:He's been kind of. I already don't want to see this movie. I can't wait to see it. I want to see it twice at the same time. Football, nick Cage. I'm in.
Speaker 4:I think Keanu is like Bruce Willis and Nick Cage together. Yeah, like they.
Speaker 1:He's got his little niche so a few other things I want to bring up. So, in terms of this movie, something that I love is we see him get his ass kicked. I almost said kiss.
Speaker 3:I was trying not to say kiss the whole time. He does get a kiss.
Speaker 1:I mean, we'll kiss it now, because we love the guy.
Speaker 1:But it's something so fun and it's like I guess I just didn't remember as much in the sequels of it of him just like constantly getting beat up, and it actually feels like he's getting beat up In this one. It's great. As soon as you meet him, we see him get beat up at the very beginning. It's like, oh cool, it's an action hero that we're actually going to see die Until he gets beat up again, and then he has a doctor put stitches in him and he immediately has a fight.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and she punches him several times. I was like your stitches would be so open. It's great.
Speaker 1:We see him fail multiple times to this film, like when he goes to the nightclub. He gets thrown off the top of the thing and it's like I guess I should run away yeah.
Speaker 2:My target's gone, but it's like great he, he wasn't insured to do it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I love that. That's another thing I like about him is him really committing to doing his own stunts.
Speaker 1:He did like 90% of his own stunts, I believe.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and at that age is nuts. Yeah, Because usually I think Harrison Ford really had kind of stopped doing his own stunts at that age.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they kind of had to make him once. He crashed all those helicopters.
Speaker 1:He's like you know what he?
Speaker 4:didn't? He's like you. Don't walk off anything now that I hurt himself.
Speaker 1:You can't land a plane, and Nathan Fielder landed a buoy 747 a buoy yeah, whatever.
Speaker 4:However you say, yeah, he landed a buoy. That's pretty impressive. He got a buoy to fly and then landed it another element of this movie.
Speaker 1:It only takes like 15 to 20 minutes to set up an entire universe.
Speaker 3:It's like great.
Speaker 1:I really love the flow. He gets his dog. They kill the dog. Guess what. That's the end of everyone. Did the puppy have to be so? God dang cute.
Speaker 4:I know, you know that second that dog was like Broly, come here, come here, broly.
Speaker 1:It was just like even every time I watch it I'm just like no, every fucking person on this planet deserves to die. That's what I was telling him. If he came to my house and said my dog's dead, I'm like take me. I'm sorry I didn't have anything to do with it, but I get it, john take me out.
Speaker 2:He just he kills your dog and you just hear the Kill Bill music that and you just see Red.
Speaker 1:That's fucking chemistry we built baby between me and Jason no, my wife thought the same thing.
Speaker 2:She was like cause she hates all these movies. I feel like this is the kind of movie the guys walk out of the theater and they look like they've just nutted. Really they've got that post nut clarity and the women are all just angry.
Speaker 1:See to me I always feel like there's something about keanu keanu reeves that like, even though it's like a boy action movie, like keanu reeves transcends boy action movies he does there's something about I think it's because he's so sad looking he's so sad. He was a project and also he's so fucking hot in something you don't understand what makes it also?
Speaker 4:better is how you said the action you can clearly see what's going on. So they're sitting able to like because we watch the blind action movies and just enjoy it for the crazy stupid stuff. But like I feel like if the slower, like paced action where you can see what they're doing with their fighting, you can actually enjoy it Like oh, oh well, that's something I'm like man.
Speaker 1:The action in this movie is so good, right, I feel like even if you're someone who's not really into action movies, you have to be able to watch this and be like that's so cool, and but you know, some people just aren't into this thing.
Speaker 3:But I'm just like you how not, how not can?
Speaker 4:you be into this. She's watched all of them Like she was ready to see the fourth one. Yeah, of course we were at the Malco and our ears were nearly gone in the first few minutes. Dude.
Speaker 1:I haven't seen any of the other ones, just when he punches the punching bag. The only issue with the other ones is they get way too long they do.
Speaker 4:They amp it up too a little because, like you know, he wears a bulletproof vest. In this one he wears bulletproof suits in the next one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like. He's like oh, you're back in here.
Speaker 4:Things have changed. Now the lining is in there, he's able to stop bullets.
Speaker 1:Pretty much.
Speaker 4:So they did it just so he didn't have to wear a vest the whole time he runs into gunfire while just holding up his suit over his head. It somehow is able to stop the bullet, but it doesn't stop the. They still feel the sting. It doesn't fully stop the bullet, so you still feel the sting of it.
Speaker 1:So you see them and you know what, jason, you think it might be too much, and you know what it's not enough. The second one's not favorite. We need more.
Speaker 4:They really got like a good stride of like having in between more sequel, but we amped it up more because in the third one, like it gets, it goes higher than the fourth and goes even higher. Yeah, he's in the fourth one. Hell yeah, I love those guys. It's just really really long.
Speaker 1:I love that movie because no one knows how to say it. Is it Ip man or Ip man? We just don't know.
Speaker 2:I've always said Ip man, just because.
Speaker 4:Ip sounds weird to me. I think they said Ip man, Ip man at the end.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're probably right, which is weird.
Speaker 1:And also another thing. Something that's really fun about the movie is how the this movie is so good at building a universe right, so slowly. It shows you some things at the beginning and then you're like, what are these gold coins for? And then they call the people to take. It's like, oh, that's probably just like some cleaners, he knows. And he calls and then he goes to this hotel and it's like, what is this lingo? What is this world? All I want is so much of it. And then they gave us four movies of it and it's great and they just kept properly building it and it's fun.
Speaker 2:Insert the coin into the slot to get into the cool club with all the other killers.
Speaker 1:And then they're like, hey, let's do spinoffs and TV shows, and then let's do ballerina, and it's like, what are we doing this?
Speaker 2:is enough. I like the idea that they all use gold as a currency.
Speaker 1:Yeah it's great For assassins going.
Speaker 2:They're like pirates. Yes, that's what I thought of when I first saw it.
Speaker 4:Did I tell you about what happened with Ballerina? I thought I mentioned it one time. So Ballerina, obviously on a day armistice. Chad Aronofsky is that his name? The director of this?
Speaker 4:Chad Stah, it is Chad, I don't know how to say his name Stahol, stalski, stalski, okay, well, anyways that director he did four and he was like kind of ready to break away because he didn't want to keep like going with the world. He's like I think I've reached my limit with it, so he's like I'm gonna step away. Well, obviously, whoever owns it made another movie with in that world and they screened the movie for him. Because he's like I'm not going to do it. And he said this is so bad, I will. I will come back to do this I have to do it.
Speaker 4:He came back and read in like he got rid of like 80 percent like oh man of the footage, I think and he did like reshoots and like apparently fixed it. Okay, he's like it was so bad with what they screened. He came back and either did 80% reshoots or got rid of 80% of it and he like came like this is bad enough. He's like I'm not letting you do this to my world.
Speaker 2:It's like John Wick friendship is magic.
Speaker 4:I don't know what they did, which has me worried that it's not to be good.
Speaker 1:You know what's really cool how, every time they show a trailer for it, it just shows John Wick in it and I'm like wow, couldn't just save that for the movie, that would have been fun if John Wick just popped up and I didn't know he was going to pop up.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Well, it's like we got to make sure you know this is the same world to bring him in, Because that's what they did with cyber.
Speaker 2:When they announced Cyberpunk was released, nobody knew that.
Speaker 4:Keanu. Reeves was going to be in it and he comes out on stage and everyone's like yeah, yeah, he's Johnny Silverhand get ready, guys because if you look at him, he's so awkward and he's like and here it is he looks so stiff it's like ah it's just so like it just makes it feel like he's a real person.
Speaker 1:Well, they did. Man, I love like those game, like convention things. They're always so bad, it's always terrible.
Speaker 4:I still remember the first time I felt cringe from watching one of those, and it was the Ubisoft one. Mr Caffeine came out.
Speaker 1:Do you remember what I'm talking about? No, I don't remember that.
Speaker 4:I think it was for Rayman or Just Dance, and this is how he's like we're going in this movie. Let's get it up there and he'd go and.
Speaker 1:I'm like what is happening? Why are you doing the Wayne's World thing he was. It was bad. I remember, like all the Kinect stuff, them coming out and doing it and like them trying to do it.
Speaker 2:And it's like I don't think and it wasn't even working.
Speaker 4:It was obviously a pre this is pre-taste.
Speaker 1:This is terrible.
Speaker 3:Because they're so bad so let's hop into some facts.
Speaker 1:So, according to director's interview, chad Stahulski and David Leitch which, by the way, this was directed by both of them, but because the Directors Guild of America won't allow two directors to be a part of it, for some fucking reason David just got put as a producer and Chad got put as the director, even though they both produced and both directed. So they reused quite a few of the stuntmen several times throughout the film in order to make them look like different people. They would change their hair. So scenes of the guards and henchmen with long hair and beards were shot first, and the scenes with the bald men were most likely shot last because they were running out of budget so great, though last because they were running out of budget.
Speaker 1:So great, though I tried to watch it and.
Speaker 4:I was like they did a pretty good job. Do you have the fact about Salma Hayek? No, I think it's Salma Hayek. I don't know exactly who it is, so it was. I don't know if it was her, but it was the sexiest Spaniard ever walked. It was some actress, I can't remember her name. I thought it was her for some reason. It was like yeah, like she donated five Eva Longoria.
Speaker 1:Was it Eva Longoria? Yeah, it's Eva Longoria, so you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, she was a producer on this thing and the directors were like we never met her once. But I thank her for our money. Yeah, because like they.
Speaker 4:What was it they needed? They ran budget and they weren't gonna be able to finish the film without that last bit. She donated like five to six million to it because she believed in it.
Speaker 1:I like to think that the reason that Avi, the right hand man of Vigo in this movie, he's the guy that does the mayhem commercials yeah, he does like the all state mayhem commercials and he's also the vulture in Brooklyn Nine-Nine which we're watching, and even Longoria is in the season that he's in and I'm like I wonder if she got him a role in this that's cool but I love that actor, he's so good in those commercials.
Speaker 4:I think she's the reason we got John Wick, pretty much because that's a lot of money to donate towards the end, isn't?
Speaker 2:it nice to think that all Hollywood actors are friends. Yeah, aren't they all.
Speaker 1:So the directors credit Keanu Reeves dedication and talent with their ability to do long takes during the fights. Chad Stoloski I can't wait to not say his name anymore. He says I think we really only cut for impact. We didn't really cut to get around moves. We didn't cut to speed things up. We wanted you to see what happens before, during and after. You're not using long lenses to hide bad action. David said so yeah, that's a part of why they're able to do it. Keanu Reeves are so good that they didn't have to cut a lot, but so the fact that they didn't have a huge budget they didn't, and they just so. They just decided to use wide lenses so that they could film more of the action and not have to cut it up, and that's why the action is so great and you see everything.
Speaker 2:They didn't go all Howard Hughes on it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and Howard.
Speaker 1:Hughes the shit out of it. So, director, the director of this movie, chad Chad. He was a stunt double for Keanu Reeves through most of his career, and especially on the Matrix, and they became best friends. Do that, and that's you know why I got this movie.
Speaker 2:Man, what if you had a best friend that was your double.
Speaker 1:You just make him do all this shit you don't want to do it's like should we kiss, I don't know Did you see what happened with Daniel Radcliffe's double no and he broke his back and he's been paralyzed but Daniel.
Speaker 4:Radcliffe has like stayed in his life with him because he like understood, because I think they got in close to the first three or four movies I don't know which one it was and they even had a book come out and, I think, a documentary on it to talk about yeah, they did have a documentary and I'm sitting here we got a documentary about stunts and the stunt people.
Speaker 4:We have the fall guy and we have John Wick, because John Wick I was like it shows you what a director who's done stunts because to me that was such a big deal is like. It shows you that world and what they can bring into it with their experience and still not having a stunt category at the Oscars is ridiculous.
Speaker 1:They will now this year. They're bringing it Finally.
Speaker 4:You know how mad that makes me, because we've had John Wick and we had the fall guy.
Speaker 1:The fall guy should be the one to do it, yeah they would have won every time, except maybe, like Top Gun, maverick may have gotten it. Just because you know, tom Cruise drove plane.
Speaker 4:Well, so do you think with that category? Because I always wondered, if they introduced the category, would that push directors to do more stunt, like actual stunts, to try and get that category? What is it going to bring in? Like maybe a new wave of movies trying to. We're going to see a lot more actual stunts, more stunts, more stunts.
Speaker 1:Do you think it's going to make it? I'm going to bust your bubble. It will not.
Speaker 3:I say in five years they get rid of that category.
Speaker 1:No, I mean I think that the action movies will probably want to have better stunts.
Speaker 2:I want to see someone thrown into a like a jet engine and get mincemeat like.
Speaker 1:I don't think this is gonna make like noah bomb back like a indie director. Be like, I need more. No, not like that.
Speaker 4:I just mean, do you think there's gonna be like directors who are already doing action movies? It's like, let me put more towards, because it changes your mindset of like well, let me look into this because it could be a category. I win it, because when you have a category for stunts, what makes stunts great is the live action part of it, yeah. And when you get more physical with it, because sometimes it could lead people down to like, well, let me start studying more about what we could do. I feel like it could lead to, depending on who you are about. I have learned what I wanted and I think it would be great, because anytime you talk about people who have like great action movies as people who can either do their own stunts or they film the stunts, well, yeah, and the action is better. And that's when people are like the movie is great because you see real action happening. I feel like we can maybe go that way, but with AI also, we could just go fucking nowhere.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's weird. I don't know how they're going to do the category, because it's going to be like is it just going to be like who did stunts better, who has most stunts, who got the most hurt? Yeah, and it's just like are we going to consider, like pyrotechnics, a part of stunts, like cause?
Speaker 4:that would be physical.
Speaker 1:Like Michael Bay has.
Speaker 4:Like I mean, I'm sure there's a ton of stunts in his things, but I'm always like he's more explosions, not more stunts stunts, but you don't kind of, you don't see them, though you see the explosion in one person I like, like with fall guy. It shows you all the stunts they do, I think. At least I guess that's more my view is, when you actually see someone physically in the car and you have the camera there and they do a roll and explosions go around, yeah, you're more focused on the person.
Speaker 1:It feels like you're in it. Well, I'm just like well, they consider consider like something like Creed to be a stunt heavy movie. I mean it's more of a choreographed fight. But I mean stunts are just choreographed balls, right. So I'm like, would they consider some a movie like Creed, which I was like that's one of the my favorite action movies, even though it's just boxing. I guess it's more of a sport movie, not an action movie, but I'm like that's a really hard stunt to film around. You got like 12 rounds of fighting. You kind of have to choreograph and stunt out, right. So it's like are they going to like, is that going to be a part of it? I don't know. I can't wait. I'm so excited.
Speaker 2:It could just only make things better yeah.
Speaker 1:Hopefully.
Speaker 4:As long as they do it, okay, we're right.
Speaker 1:What do we do when there's like a very low stunt, heavy like year? Because I'm like right now, what movies were the stunts? I guess?
Speaker 4:Thunderbolts.
Speaker 1:Thunderbolts. That's it so far.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's why I'm hoping this could maybe push them to, because it's always the movies that also come out, like when you get a director like Guillermo del Toro and like I loved his movie because there's practical effects everywhere. Yeah, I was like could we maybe inspire like cause there's always a like, there's a different flow and way movies go, like action movies where the peak went down and then CGI started taking over. So it depends on what ways we have in Hollywood. It just, of course, with everything going, I feel like AI is just going to ruin it.
Speaker 4:But I'm hoping we get like a wave of more practical stunts and seeing more of like people learning to do better, cooler stunts and black people like to see the action, like people got inspired from um, from Jason Bourne action, to do all that shaky cam stuff. It was like maybe they can take some inspiration and do longer choreographed fights and more just, bigger, longer stunts. Like Fall Guy. I thought was the greatest example of seeing cause. Like you know it's not Ryan Gosling, but you're seeing, you're understanding cause. It's putting you in the mindset of seeing a stunt person and you know more and open that world.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Well, the Fall Guy had to be good at stunts, because it's a movie about stunts, but they did such a good job.
Speaker 4:It opens, someone could who's like I'm gonna direct this movie uh, let me watch fall guy and they can get inspired from. It's like I want to be on this level of recording these live action stunts I want to get good choreography.
Speaker 2:That's going to be the main sell this movie. Oh yeah, you know what? If it comes so saturated that it was all reverts back to slipping on banana peels hell yeah, we can go back to charlie chaplin levels and stuff.
Speaker 4:I feel like you see all those stunts they did I like, like where this is going.
Speaker 1:I mean shit, that's what Pixar does in all their movies.
Speaker 2:They go back to Charlie Chaplin stuff.
Speaker 1:It works every time Cool. So, according to the director's commentary, when they shot the top-level nightclub fight sequence, Keanu Reeves had the flu and was running 104 fever. Fuck yeah man, you couldn't even get him to sit down. Chad said he just did take after take.
Speaker 2:He just did take after take. It was delirious. Someone should have stepped in.
Speaker 4:Is that why his hair is like all greased back? Because he's sweating Probably?
Speaker 1:He's on the verge of death. He's like all right, we're going to throw you off this second story building. He's like cool, make it be my last stunt.
Speaker 2:And actually kill me. That was some chicken soup waiting for me.
Speaker 1:Make sure I go into it. I have a coma for it, so I can get over this fever.
Speaker 4:It's so funny because I think that's why I like these so much is just seeing Keanu, because I watch a lot of behind the scenes and him doing his training, like the martial arts training. You can see he's literally exhausted, sweating, and he gets back and he's like okay, let's go again. And seeing that push. And I think it's just from working out, because saying the sick thing makes me think about one day I was sick after work from glc and I was like god, I got I think I had school after, maybe it was just the gym.
Speaker 4:I was like I really don't want to go to the gym because I feel like because I was sick and I still went to the gym and I had pushed harder and was able to lift heavier than I was and I gave crap, I was giving crap to my buddy about it. But I like I get that. Like even you're sick, you can still push if you want to, even though you're that sick, and I'm like I get it, you shouldn't do it, but yeah, that's how the plague has spread Me with a fever like I can't even change.
Speaker 2:That's why the plague spread so rapidly. Everyone was working out so hard.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I gotta get my gains.
Speaker 4:That was when I was younger, though I don't know how he was doing that at his age and pushing it. Yeah, for real.
Speaker 2:That was like four years ago.
Speaker 4:No, it was like seven or more because it's been a while. It was before I started class.
Speaker 1:So Keanu Reeves' preparation for the role included weapons and martial arts training eight hours a day for four months, and I guess it's kind of like collateral that we talked about yesterday where, like people who are in the business of training, like cops and stuff, said his reloading is probably perfect reloading and it's they haven't. They've never seen someone outside of the business be able to reload like that.
Speaker 2:Hey, why don't they train real cops like this?
Speaker 1:Because it's eight hours a day for four months yeah no, they don't do that.
Speaker 2:Specifically gun training. I feel like that's like one of the most important things you could train on.
Speaker 1:I don't actually know how they train cops in just like a week or a month like three months it's all virtual reality well.
Speaker 4:so like mentioning that there was a scene I saw talking with Al Kilmer in Heat and he said he's like I felt very impressed they were filming near somewhere, near Fort Bragg or somewhere, and a military guy told him he's like I show them that scene and I tell them 98% of y'all are not going to be able to shoot that good.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 2:Sounds familiar.
Speaker 4:Well, not shooting, but his reload, how quickly he does it in the scene, is like spot on what he wants. And I was telling the guy who I work with about it and sent it to him. He's like, well, they do that for motivation. I was like I know it's because you're looking at someone, you're in the military, you should be able to be able to reload that good. And it's also like he's just acting and he did training just for fun and that's how good he got. I expect you to be at that fucking level.
Speaker 2:Well, the only what's familiar about it is the degradation.
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:And they just expect you to be good. Yeah, yeah, well, it's to push you.
Speaker 4:But I also like I got into like his watching him shoot and just I don't know what it is, shoot and just I don't know what it is. I guess he just like when he dedicates himself to it. You see it and I like it well.
Speaker 1:Also, you have to remember the difference between uh, keanu Reeves learning this is he's getting paid a lot of money to learn this versus when you go to like other things, you're like you're not gonna make that much money and they're probably not really paying you that much as you're training, so it's just like I don't know you don't get as much training.
Speaker 4:You don't get eight hours a day for six weeks, you get like once every couple weeks, you get like a few hours well, I mean like, and you're also learning, like how to do paperwork and I'm sure, all kinds of extra stuff I think I mean more of like there's other actors who could do that, but they don't go as far as that because they can take that and like because there was like something I saw about um that, that Iron Fist show that was on Netflix Iron Fish Fist.
Speaker 1:I know, I just want to say Iron Fist. What do you think?
Speaker 3:Fish.
Speaker 2:The Iron Fist show was pretty fun, but only for the scenes where he punched the things.
Speaker 1:Are y'all saying Fist? All I'm hearing in my headphones is Fish.
Speaker 2:I like Iron.
Speaker 3:Fist better. I don't know, are you kind of fishy about?
Speaker 4:it right now. I don't know you kind of fishy about it right now. But someone came out and was talking about he didn't name names but everyone complained that the Iron Fish guy did not, did not, the choreography wasn't good choreography. And a stunt performer director came out and said was like, yeah, like he didn't really show up on set a lot, but they, they still filmed, it, showed the world that you don't have to do that much.
Speaker 4:yeah, it's just like with working out, like even though they do ruids on the side to get that big, some people you could see who really put a lot of time into it for eight hours, where someone's like I went like two, two, two hours a day, every day, which is still a lot. Yeah, but you see the difference, if someone has had dedication and that's what I like about Keanu, the martial arts, the shooting it's dedication and it seems like it pays off on film.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's a very dedicated actor. I love it. It makes me feel great.
Speaker 4:I do gotta say I didn't realize until I was watching this, because I put down a note and it was like John Wick Films brings out my Inter-American and I was like I did start buying my few guns. I started buying at the time, yeah, I remember was when John Wick 2 had came out, yeah, and I was like I'm just really into it, gotta have one.
Speaker 1:John Wick 4, the fucking guns are amazing, I know. Okay. So this next fact. It's kind of like three facts all put together, so it might be a second for me to finish it all. So in the original script the character of John Wick was written with a was written a man in his mid 60s to play the role, given the title character's fabled reputation. Ergo, the filmmakers had initially imagined an older actor. However, head of Thunder Road Pictures decided against this, stating instead we decided to look for someone who is not literally older, but who was a seasoned history in the film world. So the first version of the script was titled Scorn I remember that yeah.
Speaker 1:And while similar, it was a lot different from the final film. For example, the character was older, he didn't have any dialogue for the first 25 pages and his dog was originally 18 years old. As in the final film, the dog was the last gift from the dying wife. After it was killed, it goes on a revenge rampage. The body count was much lower Somewhere between six to 12 people died in the first draft Not enough.
Speaker 4:How many died in this one? Because I got that fact 74 people, something like that. I got 77. 77, yeah.
Speaker 1:And so the movie was called Scorn. Keanu Reeves kept referring to it as John Wick. According to the writer, derek can't say that was name. Marketing was like dude four to five million free advertising so far. So it's John Wick instead of Scorn because he just he just kept saying John Wick instead of Scorn. I mean I like it. The building for the continental, the outside, it was the same one used in the stock exchange from Dark Knight Rises.
Speaker 4:Okay because I watched that not long ago and I was like, huh, that building looks a bit familiar.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but the first few things about the original script. That's some of my favorite facts about movies is when it's like you just hear about the first script and it's like they really didn't have this figured out. Though there's a show on FX called the Old man and it's Jeff Bridges and it's an action movie and it's really a lot like this. Actually, he's like a ex-CIA agent or whatever and he's like really good at fighting. Watch the first three episodes. It's fucking fantastic. I didn't continue watching it.
Speaker 4:I think me and her tried to watch it, but and her tried to watch it, but we got bored.
Speaker 1:He's got this old man just fucking fighting.
Speaker 4:Because he's so old, he's just more a lot of talking versus actually being able to do stuff. That first episode there's a lot of fighting, you talking though made me realize with my movie to go with this. At the end I got it and I wrote it down. So, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1:This is perfect A follow up to watch. So, in an interview for Screen Junkies on February 16th 2017, chad and David mentioned how there was an alternate ending for the film, which had John simply shooting Vigo and killing him, but they decided to use the other version of the ending, where the two men fight. There also was a different one. They were going to have a lot more of a fight, but then they were like, uh no, this guy's should not be able to have any like ability against John Wick.
Speaker 1:And even though, parts of the fight still doesn't work at the end for me.
Speaker 4:I'm just like, yeah, like I literally was sitting here like waiting for it, and I'm like, after everything that happened, I was like I think that was. The problem is like, well, we're going to film you, not put a stunt double in. And they're like, if we're going to do that, the fight's going to be a lot.
Speaker 3:Yes, and it worked better because you can keep the actor on screen.
Speaker 1:Let's grapple each other, all right. That's about all the facts. I got A few other things about this. This movie is slick as hell.
Speaker 4:It is Especially Keanu's hair.
Speaker 1:Everybody looks so good, the cinematography is so good, just the colors, so dark and how dark it is. But it's just the houses, the buildings, that nightclub. Where the hell is this nightclub?
Speaker 2:Seven minutes in heaven, three different layers.
Speaker 1:And it's always a completely different vibe in all of it. I'm like I want to go to a nightclub and hang out in a pool Except I don't because it's probably disgusting. Yeah, that's gross. I saw random fact.
Speaker 4:I saw a thing that says, if you want to like the one of the biggest things someone checked for like bacteria and say do not do, is Vegas pools oh wow, and I was like good point pissing in it what do you think about the people who are going to Vegas, not that creek that RFK Jr swam in. Oh, our health chief, our health chief or whatever, who also said you shouldn't be taking health advice from me.
Speaker 2:Like I don't really know a lot about health, why am I here, everybody?
Speaker 1:What's the point? John Wick's making his poly charge baby, all right. So I think it's time to hop into the plot, baby, and remember. There you go. We have our new category. It's called what's the point? It's because I often find myself asking my wife.
Speaker 2:What's the?
Speaker 1:point of this movie or this show that we just spent 10?
Speaker 2:hours watching. Disclaimer you do need to have a woman present.
Speaker 1:She'll tell you everything. No, it's just a fun little thing.
Speaker 4:I think about it every time. I was literally thinking that as I was watching. And when I try and analyze this yeah, you know, as I interrupt a lot I sit there and think, well, think about this. I saw it in that moment. And when I'm trying to actually think about what he's thinking about in the moment, yeah, when it's just like it's always.
Speaker 1:Every time I watch a movie, especially when I go to theaters, I'm like I can't talk about this movie. I have to think every single second about this movie, like when I watch sinners. I was like I was just like, oh, because you know, we watched it together and then we drove back home and, as I was just like I don't want to say too much, because I want to know the point of the movie, was it civil rights? Uh, not civil rights.
Speaker 4:It was.
Speaker 1:I found it to be more about, uh um, people stealing culture from people.
Speaker 4:It was yeah, and like also culture representation, dude, you gotta like, you gotta like when that comes out on blu-ray, that's gotta be something you do soon, because that movie is amazing.
Speaker 4:I get chills like once a day because I keep thinking about that movie, like it's what I was telling him, which I know you like I noticed after the movies. You're doing that because I'll sit there and think too, and I'll sit here and, as you notice me, it's like, man, that scene was so good. Because I'll sit here and I'm like this scene too and I'm like I just start playing and I'm like, god, it's so good, because I'll analyze it later and be able to think on it and then it's one of those movies that I have put on.
Speaker 1:I will own that movie and it that we're doing it.
Speaker 4:Fuck yeah I told you when I left the movie, Grubb already had it up for pre-order for Steelcase and I almost bought it and I was like, oh gosh, maybe I should wait until it goes on sale. And I still have debated about buying because I love that movie. So much.
Speaker 1:Sinners is going to be our first four-person podcast, probably because Devin wants to be on that one. Oh, the plot. You at home think about this movie and like what's it trying to say?
Speaker 4:it could just be like action cool guns, cool gun fu, great um yes well that, like you're asking people, I feel like it's you're asking them to engage in what they have, because it's always you're seeing someone's opinion on what they see. Yeah, because, like how my girlfriend's view is, we always say it's very different, especially when we watch horror movies. Um, because just watched some show called Sirens on Netflix and her interpretation that she saw it for Kevin Bacon's character and the title of it, I was like, oh, that's a very good view. I see your point of view. I thought it was really good. I also looked it up. Nobody's agreeing with me. I was like, I don't know, I think your view works way better and it makes more sense. Other people's opinions don't know. I think your view works way better and it makes more sense.
Speaker 1:Yeah, other people's opinions don't matter, we're American remember. It's fun to talk about it, but only my opinion matters, and that's what we me and Jason I figured out. His opinion bad, my opinion good.
Speaker 2:Yes, this podcast, obviously I'm beating Jason.
Speaker 4:It's only just because of point break. That's where it all started. Point break blowout collateral.
Speaker 1:I agree, I'll hit everyone in this room and run away. No blowout I love, y'all got you.
Speaker 4:I don't know what the I haven't got to listen to the collateral episode. It comes out this Monday, Okay.
Speaker 1:We're filming these back to back days. Okay, let's go, baby. All right. John Wick 2014. Your mind's about to be blasted out of the back of your skull. So the film starts with John Wick looking like he's dying. He sits and watches a video of his wife I put in quotations shit, I wonder what happened. I bet we won't find out. In New York City, john Wick is grieving the death of his wife, helen. We learn she died through these little flashes of scenes quickly and, like you know, we see him kind of falling in love and now she's dead. Then you got the beep beep as he's going to see her on her deathbed. Oh man, I love a good beep beep, beep, flatline, a good death note Works every time.
Speaker 2:Could you imagine going into this?
Speaker 4:not telling someone, and then you bring him in and they're like am I watching another Keanu Reeves rom-com?
Speaker 1:It's like wait, is this a sad boy Keanu Reeves movie or is this like and it really is making you think it's going to be a sad boy?
Speaker 3:Keanu Reeves movie the entire time.
Speaker 1:We see him go to her funeral and somebody's watching him. Played by William Dafoe.
Speaker 4:I forgot how much he was in this.
Speaker 1:He's such a scary looking guy. He is so scary. He ominously says he is checking up on an old friend. Wick doesn't understand why it had to be her who died.
Speaker 1:It's like why did it have to be her. It's always great in these action movies. Like I was the bad one. I've killed people. Why did she have to be the one that died? It's like this world's so unfair and I think she should come back. We learned that Helen had arranged for him to receive a beagle puppy to help cope with his loss. Keanu Reeves is really great during the letter reading when he gets it. Also, this woman's obsessed with daisies.
Speaker 2:So wait? So she set it up for, like on her death, that he would be delivered a puppy.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think it's because she knew she was dying and she yeah, she, I think it was this wasn't like yeah, it was like a slow like she's like I'm gonna die and I need to set this up for him yeah, oh, how sweet yeah, it's like I get me like the dog also has cancer one thing.
Speaker 1:I thought hey, here's this dog with Parvo enjoy it.
Speaker 4:Can I say of all the John Wick series you still never see their like because usually they'll try and delve into like why he loved her so much and bring her story in she doesn't come back to life.
Speaker 4:no, we just don't see any flashbacks either. It's just all it's the video and we're just left to interpret it the whole time about what the relationship is. So that allows you to put in how you feel about your relationship and like I understand, yeah, versus someone, like let's show it. And this is how we saw it. Yeah, love the open interpretation. It's like with, like horror origins she loved it.
Speaker 1:You don't really need a flashback to them being in love and stuff, because you get it. He kills a bunch of people.
Speaker 4:It's like yeah, I think he definitely loved her. Yeah, I think he's coming back.
Speaker 1:I have a very serious face. The bride of Frankenwich. Yeah, and just again. This puppy is so fucking cute.
Speaker 3:It is so cute it's got the biggest little ears it's so tiny and lanky and so cute he's like sleep on the floor for one night, and then you're mine.
Speaker 4:I knew that because, dude, I tell you, broly has fucking ears. I'm like, oh, I feel so much more now.
Speaker 1:And then so we see John and the dog interact. John tries to get the dog to sleep on the floor, and then Daisy wakes him up.
Speaker 4:I'm so, and then Daisy wakes him up. Ah, don't look at you. That's exactly every morning, dude. After she feeds Broly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, after he licks his ass, real good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't let dogs look at my face.
Speaker 3:It's gross and I never want to.
Speaker 1:I let them look at my ass first. Let me get the peanut butter out.
Speaker 4:Your dog eats poop.
Speaker 1:I understand why you don't, yeah? Then John wakes up the next morning. We see the dog running around the counter. It's all, I gotta go, he gives a fucking cereal. John feeds the fucking dog cereal. Hey, Helen, maybe get some dog food for the dog too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you didn't think about that one, did you?
Speaker 3:You dead ass bitch. Oh, I ain't got.
Speaker 1:Sorry, sorry to all the dead people out there.
Speaker 4:There's a Ouija board in here right now. It'd be sliding around F you.
Speaker 1:Huh, I wonder, what that means.
Speaker 4:You get two responses. One's ha ha ha, someone has a sense of humor. The other one I want to speak to the manager.
Speaker 2:My magic eight ball just said please take me back.
Speaker 1:So then John goes out and the dog sneaks in the car with him. Fuck, it's so cute was it?
Speaker 2:it came already potty trained and everything.
Speaker 1:She almost thought of everything well, my dog, like Snake, like as soon as we got him, like he never went in the house, he just immediately always knew to go outside and we got him as a puppy.
Speaker 2:what's? He never went in the house, he just immediately always knew to go outside. What's it like to have a?
Speaker 4:smart dog. Have you seen my dog? He's not that smart. Well, I had the same thing with Zelda when I used to live at home. It's because I could just take her out as often as she wanted to.
Speaker 2:Did you name her after the old woman from Pet Sematary?
Speaker 4:Zelda. No, I did not.
Speaker 1:I wonder this guy who has a bunch of tattoos of characters.
Speaker 4:I wonder who he named it after, just for clarity, I don't really play. I've never played those games really. I just wanted a nerdy name and I tried Umbreon at first, but the girl I was dating she's like I don't like that one. And I just was naming names off and they went with Zelda Nice. That's why Nice. I mean Broly's name for the new puppet we got is from Dragon Ball.
Speaker 1:Z. I hate posers, dude, don't you, jason? Well, while gassing up his car. A group of Russian gangsters led by Yosef Tarzoff, alfie Allen aka.
Speaker 3:Theon Granger.
Speaker 1:I wonder if he still has it. I mean he was pretty, I wonder if he still has it. So they kind of I mean he was pretty. Is he one of those people who's like very into the role?
Speaker 2:I just his he has one of those faces where you just want to see it explode, yeah.
Speaker 1:He's got like a really like. It's like. It reminds me of people that, like you know, like grew up, was pretty popular in high school, got out of high school, started doing drugs and it's like man. I became a police officer but so they had a cost John and failed to intimidate him into selling his 1969 Boss 429 Mustang Badass car.
Speaker 4:Yeah right, I prefer the other car he gets afterwards.
Speaker 1:I will say Camaro I will say Mustang, I do like classic. I will say I'm Camaro Mustang, I do like classic cars. I hate that in this movie one of my biggest issues with it he doesn't get his car back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that does suck.
Speaker 1:And it's just like he gets a random dog, but it's like you got to at least get your car back.
Speaker 4:That's why you got to come back for the sequel.
Speaker 1:My least favorite car he gets is when the Continental gives him a car. The Charger, don't give me this new shit.
Speaker 2:I really wanted him to drive the bat car, the car with the bat in the window.
Speaker 1:Yeah, john goes to an airport to drive his car, throwing the dog all over the place in his car.
Speaker 4:The dog's not in the car at that point, was he not? He went immediately.
Speaker 2:No, he was definitely in there.
Speaker 1:How else is it going to work? He went from the gas station to the airport.
Speaker 4:Well, if you look, they're supposed to be in now. I was like, is the dog still in there? But the backseat doesn't have the toys in there anymore.
Speaker 2:He just plasters through the window like Garfield.
Speaker 1:I feel like it's funnier if the dog's in it.
Speaker 4:I love that Garfield reference from the live action one. I just got a mention with Bill Murray. I don't know why that cracks me up.
Speaker 1:It's great casting.
Speaker 3:It's perfect. Casting it's perfect.
Speaker 1:And I feel like the whole point of this is that this gives him the adrenaline that he misses from being hit Anger driving. Well, I don't think it's adrenaline he's seeking.
Speaker 4:He's just like angry. That because, again, this is more that interpretation of what you think. The way I see it, it's not. He does. He's not someone who wants adrenaline. He's not someone who wants adrenaline. He's someone who he's like do I want to die too, but I can't, because it's like I think he wanted to die, but he's like I can't take my own.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because he gets really close to driving into the trucks. But also personally, I think it's the adrenaline and I think I do too because a lot of people who like in the military, they are adrenaline seeking and they continue doing those adrenaline seeking activities after you know trauma.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I just think he also was like how much of a like a anchor to that world he was. He's like well, now I got out of the world for her, do I go back? I don't want to go back, but I want to go fast. I want to fast and Dom, you know you got there, you need a family.
Speaker 1:I can tell it's like I see that you're living about, like you know, about a tenth of a mile at a time and I live a quarter mile at a time you gotta up those numbers, brother. Wall Street coming in here so that night the Russians break into John's home, assault him and uh they pat his dog real hard they fucking
Speaker 4:hit that dog in the head and I'm filled with bitches she was leaving to go get coffee for us and I was holding on to Broly and she's like go to dad Broly, because he's about to cry, and I was already tearing up. I was like shut up dad, and then and he twisted his head off.
Speaker 1:I didn't say the worst part and then they steal his car. Do anything but steal the car, this fucking idiot? Yeah, I mean this is like whenever I drive on the road and someone does something dumb and anybody's like flick them off and I'm like we don't know what they do for a living. You don't like following them home. It could be a John Wick situation.
Speaker 4:You know I had to explain that to her. She's like getting angry at them. I said don't do that. She's like why. I said it's a dude. She's like I don't care, I'll fight him.
Speaker 3:I was like the thing is, you won't fight him.
Speaker 4:There's a movie called Unhinged. Is that the you about did it?
Speaker 1:You about did it?
Speaker 4:Yeah, because I looked at you and she was like, well, yeah, I'll fight him, I don't care. I said that's a man in there. The thing is, I'm with you. You're not going to fight him, I'm going to have to fight them, and I'm not thinking I'm back yet it's like you know, my knees, Crazy legs coming at you.
Speaker 1:There's potential that I I was like.
Speaker 4:I'm a weak boy. I've never been in a fight in my life. Either I'll get my ass kicked or I'll end up killing them.
Speaker 1:I don't know which side it'll be. So John Wick wakes up and buries his fucking cute-ass goddamn dog, and I'm ready to kill.
Speaker 4:Think about that scene he buries his dog, then he unburies his old life because he breaks that cement. I mean, just thought about that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, only 20% of people bury their dogs in the backyard. I tried to do it to our last dog that died and everyone hated it why? So, we didn't because I thought that's what you did.
Speaker 1:You had to bury him pretty far too you gotta go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I went like a foot deep oh well, that's terrible, that's awful. Yeah, we didn't do it. It's gonna smell in your backyard, your kids.
Speaker 1:So Yosef takes the Mustang to a chop shop to remove its identifying details. But the shop owner, aurelio love John Lozano, he's the best recognizes it and refuses service, punches the shit out of Yosef and tells them to kill him or get out. I love it because they're pulling a gun out and he's like come on, do it.
Speaker 3:It's the best in action movies, when people do it.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I'm ready to die do it, baby.
Speaker 4:I thought it was over the top, but like as you could sit here and think I could see him being like, if I don't, if something happens, is like if John gets mad at me, I'm gonna die anyway so he's way worse than you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so he either fucking do it or just get out, because I don't know who it's gonna be, either way, if John gets pissed, yeah, so Aurelio informs John that Yosef is the son of Viggo Tarsov, the boss of New York. City's Russia Mafia. Let's see what it is. I love him. He's so good. He's great. He really is. He's great as a villain. You don't want to die, yeah, Because you're just like. I'm sure he does a lot of shitty things, but the whole time I'm like man. The guy seems down to play ball.
Speaker 4:He just doesn't want his son to die which?
Speaker 1:is understandable. He really wishes his son didn't do this and he doesn't hate John Wick. He's just like I'm a bad guy. I have to do my bad guy stuff, john, you've unleashed the force of nature. Well, he beat the crap out of and stuff.
Speaker 4:I thought that was real because, like punching someone, either it's on the actor who did it, like Theon, whatever his name is. Alfie, alfie, alfon Something like that Him, like I don't know if they told him that like leaning into it, throwing up after just chugged. I was like that's real, because when you just get sucker punched, really especially Got the old man strength and you're not anticipating it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I'll be watching. So, upon learning of his son's actions from Aurelio, vigo berates and punches oh fuck, I forgot, I love it Because Vigo calls Aurelio and he's like why did you punch my son?
Speaker 3:He stole John Wick's car and killed his dog and he just goes oh. Hangs up the phone. It's just like that world.
Speaker 4:I thought I was gonna kill you, aurelio, but now, I think, you. I think you did the right thing. Yes, that's exactly what I said.
Speaker 1:I was like it's just like just fucking stuntman or I guess it wasn't a stuntman that wrote it, but just like whoever wrote? It was just like I know movies.
Speaker 4:It's building it in as he is, like he's the boogeyman Because you don't know him.
Speaker 2:He just signed his death certificate, yeah.
Speaker 1:So yeah, upon learning of the actions of his son, aurelio Vigo from Aurelio Vigo berates and punches Yosef for incurring John's wrath he reveals John was once a hitman in his employee and was renowned and feared in the criminal underworld as the Baba Yaga. Baba Yaga, baba Yaga, A ruthless, relentless man of focus, commitment and sure will. He's the man you send to kill the fucking boogeyman I love it. He's not the boogeyman and he killed three men with a pencil.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, the pen is mightier than the sword.
Speaker 1:The pencil is just like a knife, but just wood.
Speaker 4:But the thing is is like you think about it, like you can't, obviously because it's yeah, it's just going to go. You could easily stab people without juggling Well it's one of those things of like you use a pencil Well, not anymore, but you use a pencil all the time. You never think of like I could kill someone, but you don't.
Speaker 2:It's an everyday thing I used the pencil in school.
Speaker 1:There was like that one time I got I could stab this in someone's eye. Hey, jason, I think you need to go home. No, why are you holding three pencils right now? He's Wolverine.
Speaker 2:If they would have shown this pencil kill it may, Would you think it would have been better than the Joker pencil kill?
Speaker 4:Oh, it happens in the second one, it Second one. I think it's the second one Really yeah he brings it back.
Speaker 1:Either the second or the third one. Yeah, it's the number two pencil. The third one's all the knife shit.
Speaker 4:Well, there's a scene where he kills someone with a pencil, and I think it was the third one.
Speaker 1:I just want to say I think probably my favorite action sequence in all the movies is the beginning of John Wick 3 with the knives and the horse shit.
Speaker 4:Oh, that was so good. It was such With those horses in it. Yes, he uses a horse to fight with.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is Horse, doesn't Jason? Horse doesn't die. Aww, I'm sorry, buddy. What's wrong with y'all? Dude? He has a thing with horses, man. He brings it up constantly. If horses are brought up, he wants to see them die.
Speaker 4:You know actually.
Speaker 1:I just like seeing a good horse death and I've owned four horses it's like you like watching car crashes same thing. I've cried when horses have died.
Speaker 4:He laughs when horses die you do the same thing when dogs die or children die oh, dude, we were watching an episode of poker.
Speaker 1:Face is like the newest one and it starts off with kids, right, and I'm like holy shit, are we about to investigate a kid killing another? And I'm like, holy shit, are we about to investigate a kid killing another kid? I'm not going to put that out there, for you.
Speaker 4:It was a little disappointing.
Speaker 3:That's the next one we need to watch.
Speaker 4:Okay, so we got to keep going.
Speaker 1:So, after John fell in love with Helen, a civilian Vigo gave him a seemingly impossible task to earn his freedom, and he succeeded. And to earn his freedom, and he succeeded. And what I love is like, while all this is happening, right, you got John Wick. He's going into his basement. He's like hitting the concrete the music's kind of like swelling a little bit, but also just the sound of the sledgehammer hitting the cement. It kind of reminds me of like Iron man, right, yes?
Speaker 3:The music's swelling. He's hitting it like dink building a suit, except it sounds cooler than dink Badass.
Speaker 1:But yeah, we see him. John recovers a concealed stash from his former career that includes weapons and gold coins Like Chuck E Cheese coins. Yeah, viggo calls John. He rejects Viggo's attempt to make amends and kills the hit squad, subsequently sent his home. So because, yeah, he like calls and he's like maybe we don't do it, and he's like just hangs up essentially, and then like immediately, they tell mayhem to like send in your squad.
Speaker 1:It's like how many everybody how many you got and then like this is a, this is probably it's really tough, because I love this fight scene and I remember being tough because I love this fight scene and I remember being in theater. I watched this alone in theater, there's like one other person.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can't masturbate with someone sitting next to you. I know it sucks. I'm like we do it all the time.
Speaker 1:But then I looked over and he was masturbating. I said, do you want to, like, sit next to each other? But yeah, just because he comes in and we still don't know, like what he's capable of, right. And then it's dark and we see people coming in. We see the footsteps of the people walking up the gravel and we know that he knows that they're coming. And then he comes in and just immediately like pop, pop. And it's like, oh shit, he's good at this, yes. And then you're like what type of is this is going to be a shooting thing, like some combat, and you're like he's fighting with the guns, hand-to-hand combat, close up, and it's like, so this is what good action is yeah, he's like the no look, shoot proof, like when the guy pops around the wall, holy fuck.
Speaker 1:And I think probably my favorite part of this whole action scene and why I think it might be my favorite of the movie, is the knife scene. Oh yeah, when it gets close to close and the guy and they're struggling.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I'm just like. I specifically remember sitting in my chair in the theater and just like I'm like ow, I'm squeezing.
Speaker 3:This movie fucking goes.
Speaker 1:We're 20 minutes in and I'm like best movie ever.
Speaker 4:I think that's why I love John Wick. It set a new standard for me. It's like this is like you said good action.
Speaker 1:It's just like because they're fighting and it's close, and then like the knife's going towards John, knife's going towards the bad guy, knife's going towards John. I'm like's he gonna stab like they fall to the ground and then he gets on top of him and I'm just like, oh, he's gonna push it in. No, he's like hammer it the nail in. I'm like it's like he hammered the concrete. Well, I saw it fun. The scene starts with hammering concrete and then he hammers a knife into a fucking guy.
Speaker 4:He's now back.
Speaker 2:God, the most grueling I remember, like Saving Private Ryan, that slow knife death.
Speaker 1:I think in the entire world if you bring up a knife death scene in just to anybody, people are going to be like did you see Saving Private? Ryan, it's the most iconic knife scene.
Speaker 3:The slow piercing.
Speaker 1:That, and Crocodile Dundee, the second most famous knife scene.
Speaker 1:That's not a knife this is a knife okay, come on, it's the only other yeah, that sequel, that was like what 10 years later? Yeah, it's like, wow, this guy aged a lot, um, oh, so good. But then the doorbell rings and it's like and we see the flashing lights in his house. So fucking beautiful oh, you're like John with the screw, and then fucking Jimmy comes up and he's like hey, John, working again, you killed a bunch of people. No, I'm just sorting some stuff out.
Speaker 4:I love it.
Speaker 2:It's just so like, ah, yeah that's the point where you realize that even the cops are on his side and you're like nobody can stop this man.
Speaker 4:It shows this like network that they have established for this. Well, for me.
Speaker 1:I'm still to the point where it's like shit, did cops try to come and stop him and killed every cop in town and they're like Jimmy's like I got you back it's more of the that.
Speaker 4:You know that world. I see it as like this syndicate has built a world because you're gonna need cops.
Speaker 1:We just haven't quite like we haven't got there yet, so we just we don't know anything. It's just like it's our first hint, but at the same time it's like maybe cops are just scared of the guy, maybe.
Speaker 4:It's just more of adding like who is this guy? Yeah?
Speaker 1:And then, oh, this is, I'm getting fucking fired up, because then he makes a phone call after the dopest hell fight Wick, calls for a dinner reservation for 12 and grabs some gold coins. And it's just like what are we talking about? And this dope ass guy with his little hat comes in and a group of people come and clean and he pays them in gold to clean up 12 of them, one for every person to clean up.
Speaker 1:I love the gold. It's just like one coin just means a favor. Essentially, I feel like every time you give a gold coin, it's like someone's just like all right, that works, it's a favor. Hell yeah, it's like I feel like the gold means nothing. It's just a symbol. It's not actually money, even though I know they melt it down and probably pay for stuff.
Speaker 2:It also gets you into places that you can't get into without them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I do know that they explain it more in the other ones. But it's just like when you're watching it now you're like oh so gold coins like a type of payment or some sort of yeah, they establish their own currency, which is cool.
Speaker 4:When you do that, that's cool. It's pirates.
Speaker 1:It also seems like here's a symbol of you doing a favor for me or something like that. Yeah, but yeah, it's great. Vigo puts a two million dollar bounty on John and enlists John's former mentor, marcus, to kill him, and Marcus agrees and we're like no.
Speaker 2:William Dafoe.
Speaker 1:Why, william Dafoe, you're our favorite actors and he sends his son to a nightclub called the Red Circle to lure John there. John lodges at the Continental, a luxurious hotel that serves as neutral ground for the underworld and where conducting criminal business is forbidden. Lance Riddick baby RIP. Miss ya Been watching you since, like Fringe. Even though I know he's in the Wire, which was before Fringe, I kind of didn't realize he was also the.
Speaker 4:I need to watch that too. He's the voice in Destiny, which I got into for a while. Yeah, he was.
Speaker 1:Zavala oh, but he's got like the best voice. Oh yeah, so fucking fantastic in these movies. Just love this hotel. It looks so cozy. I think it looks better.
Speaker 4:I didn't realize. I was like oh, it's not as like cause to me in the next one. I don't know if they change it a little bit or maybe explore it. I feel like they get more of that. I don't know how to describe the world of, like John Wick's, this underground, like refined classic, like it's modern classic. I don't know how it is.
Speaker 1:It just it's like a it's a hotel. Frank Sinatra.
Speaker 4:It just feels like it's it's own theme and style and. I feel like they really leaned into it more and it works a lot better. Because when I was watching it doesn't look as good as it did in the other movies. Because it feels like it's it's like classic architecture, but still there and modernized, but not to like. It's flashy, yeah it's. It's a modern thing if we still had like that good architecture that we used to do, yeah, and taking it and putting modern twist on it.
Speaker 1:Like it's modern architecture with classic and I wish I could just put like a coin down and be like all right, I'm staying for a couple days at this hotel. It's like here's a quarter down and be like all right, I'm staying for a couple of days at this hotel and it's like here's a quarter.
Speaker 2:I'll be here for a couple of days, sir. Also, do you have a doctor?
Speaker 1:on board. Um, so we see we meet Winston. Love Winston, love this guy. Uh, the hotel's owner and John's old friend. Yes, if John's back, winston tells him, just dipping a toe back into the business will pull him back in. I think we're getting close to the point of the movie here, guys. So John and a bartender talk. Obviously they used to bone a fight.
Speaker 2:She's like hey, I heard, you're single.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it was only a few days ago. It's like, hey, I heard your wife was weak and couldn't handle cancer. You know tattoos? Does she have tattoos? Yeah, I wouldn't die from cancer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but yeah. And then she says oh, first John Wick asked Winston for the location to where Yosef is and he's like I can't conduct business on this ground. And then he goes talks to this lady and she has. She says he looks vulnerable for the first time he's never seen him have that look. And he then is handed a napkin with this drink that says the red circle. I said kiss on it.
Speaker 4:That's how I leave napkins for Jesse and off.
Speaker 1:he goes to the red circle. So, john, he walks and fucking loads baby. Here's the thing. The only thing that this movie needs is all the lock and load things in the other John Wicks. They're so sick I don't know.
Speaker 1:The second one, where he goes into. It's almost like a tailor. Oh yeah, that's where he gets the bulletproof suit. And then they also give him all these guns and it's like what else would you be needing? And he's like oh, I think I need like a wristwatch. And he pulls out this giant ass shotgun or something. Yeah, they always have different terms for it. Yeah, and it's so fantastic.
Speaker 4:I think John Wick 2 is when he started, because his trainer started becoming Terran tactical.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I was like it's because before he goes to that rave he goes in and gets all these guns and it's great.
Speaker 4:Well, I'll just say, because I was getting into guns and he started using this themed gun I think it was in the second or third one and I was following it I was like I really want that pistol because I love the look of it. It was great. And then I looked it up and it was a competition gun. And those competition guns were like $2,500. I was like, okay, gun, oh, and those competition guns were like $2,500.
Speaker 3:Okay, well, that's not my.
Speaker 4:Let me look at the airsoft version of it.
Speaker 1:I think it's weird that, like you know, like you keep saying that you're into guns, but you brought them all here with you. It's so weird the little 22s. Right now they're not like that much when you brought it like a giant shotgun that shoots flaming bullets to a podcast, but that's weird yeah, hell, yeah, dude, you gotta watch John Wick 4, bro you gotta watch all the other ones.
Speaker 4:They're so good they are good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so we see Yosef having a grand old time at the red circle just swimming around drinking champagne with girls. The lighting looks fantastic. I love it.
Speaker 4:Best day of his life everything is like it just feels real yeah.
Speaker 1:And then, uh, john, he goes to the red circle and kevin nash tells him uh, there are 60 bodyguards inside. Uh, the way he does it is because he puts a gun to his head, and the only reason he doesn't kill him, I feel like, is because kevin was like kevin nash he's great, used to be a wrestler.
Speaker 3:Nwo, baby, let's go too sweet okay, I'll stop because he asked, he's like you've lost weight 60 pounds that was him telling.
Speaker 1:I was like hey, I told you how many you earn here, can I go?
Speaker 3:is that what that was?
Speaker 1:I didn't know that. Yeah, 60 bodyguards.
Speaker 4:I thought he was just like oh, I didn't know, that was like a little weird. I thought it was just like a banter that knew each other the way they do the captions for the language and they put emphasis on certain words.
Speaker 1:I did mean to bring it up because they it's so good, like when they put boogeyman, it's like a special caption and certain words that have more emphasis.
Speaker 4:Like I was, like this is the best way to do foreign captions and add like make you feel more of the impact of what it does.
Speaker 1:I feel like best way I've ever. Tarantino's done that in some of his films before. So John infiltrates Red Circle, gets info for Yosef's location from one of his friends and then kills him. It's time to let the fun begin, as Obi-Wan says.
Speaker 2:This is one of the best action sequences ever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's great and it's just like even that first death.
Speaker 1:I was like, oh shit, I forgot how brutal it was yeah, because he's slamming his head and stuff on the counter and I'm like damn, I hope I never get my head slammed onto a counter Me too. So at first he sneaks around silently killing bodyguards. Then his cover is blown and he is face to face with Yosef. But he is able to escape further into the club. All the nightclub action rules. It's so good and I love that. He's running around killing people in the nightclub and people are just like Well you know how loud it is, and like Wow, did that guy just get his neck broken Cool.
Speaker 4:Well, there's another nightclub scene and there's one in the second one, but it's not as bad. And then there's one in the fourth one. The fourth one.
Speaker 3:It's so fucking good.
Speaker 2:Is it like the scene from Kingsman in the church? No, nothing is that was a really good.
Speaker 3:That is like another top tier of Kingsman.
Speaker 4:That was my favorite scene, just because of how good the choreographed action was and also just the camera work.
Speaker 1:And the camera flying around was pretty crazy. Yeah, I remember flying around, it was pretty crazy. Yeah, I remember when I was watching I was like this is a fun movie. And then that scene happens and I'm like this is what we're fucking doing?
Speaker 4:Why don't we fight in churches more? I just didn't expect it because, like you— and then they release snakes Voldemort's nearby.
Speaker 2:Yes, parcel thought.
Speaker 1:I don't know. So John's making his way through the club fighting, shooting people in the chest and then the head getting really close, punching people, and then all of a sudden, just like it's like I love when he's like close up fighting and then like he like catches their arm and then he just like somehow like moves his arm like right under their head and like shoots them and I'm like who the fuck thinks of this man?
Speaker 3:I?
Speaker 1:think when you're wrestling, you do those grapples.
Speaker 4:Because that's the thing. I don't remember exactly what his specific style of martial arts he was taking, but it's about grappling, and when you grapple up top and your hands are locking, you can learn to make that. That's why it's called Kung Fu. Another thing I really like about when you watch John Wick is something that I don't know how true it is, but it makes sense is the double tap or triple tap method Two in the chest, one in the head to take him out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I thought he did it more in this movie, but they definitely do it more in Collateral than in John Wick.
Speaker 4:They only show it more. I think it's because he understands he's got to conserve a little more ammo, but he always makes sure that someone you watch.
Speaker 1:When he does it, you can see.
Speaker 4:Keanu. He sees the guy drop because he waits after the double shot. You see that delay instead of continuing it to try and hit it. He knows the drop happens because they're down on the ground and he has that extra moment to shoot their head because it's an easier target. That's such good choreography to show, and just everyone, how well they execute the scenes.
Speaker 1:My favorite thing is whenever he comes in and like someone's like about to pull on him fast and I think they're going to outdo him like to the gun. So he shoots their leg first and then he goes for like they kneel and then he shoots the head and it's like cool, it's like oh, you may be quicker on the draw Like he.
Speaker 4:it's like he knows how to compensate for if he doesn't have the faster draw. He knows how to cripple them in time. Yeah Cause you can learn to do that too, if you. Obviously it's really hard to actually do that in real life, but it's.
Speaker 1:it's John Wick, oh and then, uh, my second hammer, the knife, kill it's the one.
Speaker 4:So he goes into a room and he's fighting a guy and he's fighting, and he's fighting, and then he shoots him and he's out of bullets, and then you're like, and it's just like, fun well, that's another thing that this movie really introduced reloading, and running out of ammo you really like that was the best part about when I watch this like he, because you know, when you watch action movies, at some point you're like you would be out of ammo right now.
Speaker 4:This one, I feel like you're like if you count the bullets you're pretty close and accurate.
Speaker 1:You know, I was actually thinking about that when I was watching it. I was like, oh yeah, I think that people used to just didn't think that loading guns is cool, yeah, but if you do it really fast and something I love is gun noises I don't know if you know this. When people are like messing, cleaning guns, like loading guns, Like in Last of Us, my favorite thing when I see a workbench in Last of Us, and that's where you go and you upgrade your gun and like they take it apart and you got all these gun noises.
Speaker 1:Like I started playing Last of Us 2 with my wife so she could watch it. And then she's like it's like when's there a workbench? I know that's like one of your favorite things.
Speaker 2:And then, like she's like I turn around I'm like oh, my god there's a workbench, just like bolt over to it just to hear that it is very satisfying because everything fits in the place.
Speaker 4:So precisely, it's so fun anytime, like when I got I got a new gun last year, a canik that was like had a Terran tactical coin that came with it, and I forget about, like when you're just racking it. I was like I don't know why, but I love that sound.
Speaker 3:It's wild, it's wild.
Speaker 2:Love it. You get the. My friend had a 357 that he just bought and I just kept doing the chamber, the, the, the thing and like slapping it back in and Number one sound.
Speaker 4:I know Tyler is on the same one, but because of all the old World War II Call of Duty games, the M1 Garand sound.
Speaker 2:Oh, when that's empty. Yes, love that.
Speaker 4:I always wanted one of those guns, just because of that. It's just so something about it. Hell yeah, dude, satisfying.
Speaker 3:Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1:So Yosef is able to drive off in the chaos and escape while John is being attacked. He loses his gun and has to have a hand-to-hand combat where he is thrown off a second floor, where he then escapes the Red Circle and goes back to the Continental to tend to his wounds. Lance Reddick sets him up with a doctor and a drink.
Speaker 4:I was going to ask so in that moment because I don't. I was trying to explain it to her because, you know, he tackles that one guy to the ground, he pulls the gun out and he has it at um Alfie but, he doesn't shoot, he just looks down and shoots the other guy. What do you think he was doing in that moment? Do you think he was like trying to instill fear or be like I'm coming for you, you can't stop me.
Speaker 1:I think what he was thinking was um man, later on I'm gonna have him cornered and I'm just going to walk up and he's going to say something and I'm going to shoot him, and then I'm going to walk away and it's going to.
Speaker 4:He's about being the aura farming. No, I do not Delayed gratification.
Speaker 1:I think he, I think a part of him wanted, he wanted to be closer. Okay, he wanted to be right in his face, in his face.
Speaker 4:You think he wanted to feel like you couldn't stop me. I want you to think he's like this is the first time I'm doing that. You can't stop me. Yeah, Like they're in a hideout and he hunts them down.
Speaker 1:I think he wanted to kill everybody and then kill him. Yeah, I think like if he did shoot him, he'd shoot him in the leg, both legs and arms. Also, I love whenever he goes in the continental. He's injured. He's like limping in like Lance Reddick does not change the way he talks. It's just one of the fun it really like helps you like build like what this world is. It's like he sees this probably 20 times a day.
Speaker 4:You know, I just saw someone like complaint was like it just seems like all the assassins are only in New York and I'm, like you do realize it's a hub of like getting to around the world because they're not just for New York. I was like New York is probably a central point of this because it's fucking New York also anybody that has that complaint.
Speaker 1:New York City is just a fucking rad place to have action movies because everything's on top of each other obviously like Sp because it's so sprawled out.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And so you have to get like in the movie Heat. It's like all right, they have to run so much before they get to the big action scene where it's like in the middle of an intersection you guys got to watch it.
Speaker 4:I started it and then I fell asleep. I started it and then I fell asleep. I shouldn't have tried to start it at like 2 o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1:It's okay. It is a slower film.
Speaker 4:I didn't realize that when I started at 2 am I was like I have got to go back to this later.
Speaker 1:Robert De Niro fucking is reading a book of medals.
Speaker 4:God, it's amazing that scene where the girl comes up to drive and flirt with him.
Speaker 1:I was like hey lady, why are you so interested in what I'm reading?
Speaker 4:And then, like she's, like he's, like, oh, I'm sorry and I was like dude. No, you were a dick yeah.
Speaker 3:Why does anybody fall in love with anybody in that movie?
Speaker 1:So a doctor tells him to keep it easy because he's got like 18 stitches in his side, and says if he can't take it easy, take these, marcus. He's setting up his sniper rifle. We're like no, marcus, you're.
Speaker 3:William.
Speaker 1:Dafoe, we like you Making us think that you'll kill John, but as John is resting fun fact about this this is Keanu Reeves' idea to have him in his underwear. He's like. He's like I want to feel. It's like I've never really seen a dope action scene where nobody's in their underwear, and also I want him to feel even more vulnerable than he already is.
Speaker 4:Like dude, you're already as vulnerable as someone can be. It makes you feel more real with it, because it's like, yeah, that's what you do to get comfortable. It's like damn, why didn't?
Speaker 1:John, go to sleep in a three-piece tux, though I will say change your shirt, john. Yeah, you just showed her where your wounds are.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, I thought you meant when he was in the beginning like he's covered in dog blood or whatever. So as John is resting getting some Zs, a hit woman, Miss Perkins, sneaks into his room. Marcus sees, perkins Calls him a pussy. Yeah, really, really. Marcus sees this and, from an adjacent building, fires a warning shot to alert John, who wakes up and subdues her. Love it. It's like the punching of the wound is the most brutal part. But what I like about this fight is that you know it's like male versus female. There's a lot more like grappling and rolling and her using her body weight to throw them around, versus more of like John wick and like fighting. All the dudes are like a lot more arm shit you know trying to overpower.
Speaker 1:Each other's like arms and she's just like wrapping herself around him and he's trying not to touch her boobs yeah, sorry too soon too soon, then she's like I can touch yours um
Speaker 1:yeah, they have their whole fight. It's pretty great. It's just uh, um, we just had an amazing nightclub fight and then it immediately goes into this and I feel like the um it, we just had an amazing nightclub fight and then it immediately goes into this and I feel like it's a little lessened this fight because of the two insane fights we had before this.
Speaker 4:Well, you could attribute that to being that he's not going to kill her because it's continental ground, and that's another thing they build up in there.
Speaker 1:Well, I feel like you can kill her if she attacks first.
Speaker 4:No, even he didn't do it, because that means Marcus could have just shot her. But even Marcus knows you don't do anything like that on the continental ground.
Speaker 1:Sure, it seemed like he was going to shoot her. He just never had the shot.
Speaker 4:He saw her head, he could have shot her. You saw how good of a shot he is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, william Defoe is like, I want John to have a little bit of fun. He just likes to watch. But yeah, he was jerking off, that was a J-O movement.
Speaker 3:That's why.
Speaker 1:Jason is crying but yeah, so he kind of beats her and she's like trying to crawl out of the room. He's like not so fucking fast. And then Perkins reveals Viggo has doubled the bounty for her to kill John in the hotel and has concealed a high value stash in a church. John hires another hitman, harry, who just comes out and is like everything alright, john.
Speaker 4:I love it. It's so much world building and it's so good.
Speaker 1:And it sucks because you know Harry decides like yeah, I'll watch her for you. Ties her to a chair, handcuffs her essentially and she like breaks her thumb or dislocates it and pulls out and then kills Harry.
Speaker 4:She said I didn't know.
Speaker 1:Harry a lot, but I fucking loved Harry.
Speaker 4:I just love his little slacks he had on. Yeah, she told me she's like, it's just like how you do with your thumb. I was like she dislocated it just because I can bend my thumb like that, Don't mean I'm getting through like freaking. I just got hitchhiker thumb, I'm not getting through handcuffs.
Speaker 1:Honestly, when they show her like I was like damn, was that the hardest thing for me to watch the whole movie, it's just the sound for it. So at the church, john destroys Vigo's cache of cash and extensive blackmail material. He just walks in and immediately shoots a priest, yeah. And then, like three other people who almost look like they're drug dealers, he immediately shoots it. There's this old woman in one of the pews and she literally does not flinch.
Speaker 4:She just keeps sitting there praying.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't either man, Just another day.
Speaker 1:Her prayer went from like please cure my old age, to please don't let me get shot.
Speaker 4:It's like well, here's your answer. I'm going to cure you of your old age.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I love that there's so much money in this little, because when they go back there it's almost like a jail cell full of money and stuff. The priest is like I can't open this.
Speaker 2:He's gonna.
Speaker 1:Every church has one of those. Yeah, that's probably true, especially a church that big.
Speaker 4:Yeah, usually there's little boys in there sometimes, yeah sure.
Speaker 1:But what I love is like the priest is. I don't know if you're reading this situation, but I'm also going to kill you.
Speaker 4:Well, he killed the other guy and he's like, yeah, yeah, and it's just like this is the perfect role for Keanu.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it really is, but I love that. Like he goes in there, there's a ton of money and he's like what are you going to do, spend all that? And he's the second thing that reminds me of the Dark Knight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the mountain of money.
Speaker 3:There's three things.
Speaker 1:You got the Continental is the place for in the Dark Knight Rises. You got the pencil thing for Dark Knight. And now you have the burning a pile of money, which is one of the best parts of the Dark Knight when he's like on top of the cash and he's sliding down.
Speaker 1:It's like it burns it all. It's like I'll burn my ducking in that shit. That's great. So when vigo arrives to assess the damage, john assaults him and his men but is hit whenever one of the uh henchmen drives a car into him, into another car and hits him his name is cruel, by the way, he's the main henchman of the movie um. And then he gets captured. I love the gun he uses in this. Just looks really cool You're talking about so like in that scene I don't know anything about guns.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, I like that bull pup. I think is what that style is.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 4:I love a little bull pup. In this moment I'm like this is kind of the typical bad guy moment. Why didn't you just shoot him to get it over with?
Speaker 3:in. It's a movie I know well.
Speaker 4:I try and sit here like in that moment it's like this is cliche bad guy, you should take care of him. But then I also try and say anything like why is he not? He respects john? Does he not want to incur the wrath of what would happen after john? Does he think you get him to stop?
Speaker 2:vigo rhymes with ego I think maybe like, because in the beginning they talked about how john wick was, how they built up their whole criminal enterprise so you think it's respect, because he's like we literally are here because of him. Maybe we're going to try to get him to, because he just killed everyone. Maybe help get him to try to rebuild it again.
Speaker 4:Well, maybe it could be also that they're like we could see it as an asset, Like if John's obviously back, let's see if we could use him for later. Yeah, sure.
Speaker 1:So that he thinks he's got him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it's a cockiness thing, it's just like he's like I got it.
Speaker 1:I did it, I'm going to be the one that kills John Wick.
Speaker 2:And he's like, let's make it fun, yeah.
Speaker 1:And also, you know like, even though this is like a very good action movie, it has like all the fucking tropes of every action movie. It's like just kill him. He's right there. But I think, like when you have screenwriters that write action movies, I think that they love that shit and I think that's why it's always in all the action movies and plus, you know it's new york city, the mob's everywhere, right. I don't know if it's really actually.
Speaker 4:It's also like when you're trying to equate those people who, like they, like to feel power. Like you said, ego yeah.
Speaker 3:I want to see like yeah.
Speaker 4:I did this and they're just like, oh, it's going to be good. And it's like, yeah, you think it's good because in reality, how are you going to if it wasn't for Marcus? And that leads into that whole's surrounded, and he's like this little yeah.
Speaker 1:So John tells Vigo he will not stop until Yosef is dead, because the puppy gave him hope and a chance not to be alone in his grief. Yeah, when Helen died I lost everything until that dog arrived on my doorstep, a final gift from my wife. In that moment I received some semblance of hope, an opportunity to grieve unalone, and your son took that from me, vigo. Oh god, but he says it more like oh god, but I was like it'd been better if he was like oh god well cause he was walking out.
Speaker 1:I was like over a fucking dog and then John Wick stole that from me, killed that from me. People keep asking if I'm back and I haven't really had an answer, but now, yeah, I'm thinking I'm back. So you can either hand over your son or you can die screaming along with him. Love it, bro, I better put my laptop over my crotch and then immediately plastic bag over his head.
Speaker 4:Put that put me down this is going to make it worse.
Speaker 2:Do you have a driver keeper you can put?
Speaker 4:over that yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh, but then immediately one of like, the scariest things to ever happen to anybody plastic bag over face. Damn man. And the visual of a plastic bag over his face, because I've seen it in so movies over the time Just the open mouth. It's horrible, scary.
Speaker 3:I don't think it ever bothers me.
Speaker 4:I don't think I don't have a strong claustrophobia thing.
Speaker 3:It's just like a Sunday morning for Dakota.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like auto-erotic asphyxiation.
Speaker 1:That's how I start my day. I just don't.
Speaker 4:That's what I always think. Usually when they put a bag over them, it's a fucking Walmart bag'm like. Put your hands up that one. You couldn't, because that was thick that was thick yeah, thick yeah, I do really love the scene.
Speaker 1:Obviously, it's like I don't know this scene is what John Wick is. It's like you got Keanu Reeves. It's like I've been kind of quiet this entire time. I've been taking it easy on you guys. But I just watched the Dark Knight.
Speaker 3:I know I think I'm back.
Speaker 4:I love also because when he goes over and gets the truck pulled over and he's like whoa, whoa, whoa because he's freaked out.
Speaker 1:I feel like, yeah, yeah, let's get there, let's get there, hold on. So, yeah, plastic bags out. It really looks like John Wick's going to die. John Wick's going to die, but you know the movie's called John Wick. So Marcus again intervenes to save John, who kills Krill and threatens Viggo, oh, and then he's like run it, I've got to get him dead and it's great. But yeah, like you were saying, it's like he loves that, he like shows up and it's like I wish there was this like a scene that they put in there, like after we see John Wick kill everybody and like he runs out the door. He's got Viggo's like. So what do y'all wanna like do for dinner, since we kinda just took out the most badass in the world, and then, like I just love he gets there and he's like damn it cause he's like whoa, whoa and I think it's that moment of realization.
Speaker 1:I can't stop him. I just love that he says like shit it's. It's so good, you feel the fear like I cannot stop this motherfucker.
Speaker 1:And then I also love that he gets through. He's like where's your son? He's like damn it. That actor really does a great job of just being like I lost, I have to give up the location of my son, and he does. He tells him that he's at a safe house and then I was like it's well guarded, he's like it won't matter it. He's like it won't matter. It was like John fucking Wick, everybody.
Speaker 4:I think it's also like in that moment of like, well, why would he give up a son? He's like well, I give up my son, I still have a chance to get revenge, yeah, later.
Speaker 2:And we'll have more kids.
Speaker 1:I like we're going to get to. But actually I think that he was done. He wasn't going to do anything. It was Miss Perkins that changes it. Oh, you're right. You're right. John attacks the safe house and kills Yosef. But while all this is happening, I love like as John Wick's getting there. You see Yosef or Vigo is just sitting there. He's like preparing his cigarette.
Speaker 4:He's like because he knows his son's, literally in the process I thought he was preparing a blunt.
Speaker 1:He's in the process of his son dying right now and he knows that his um and as they go through, because one guy's playing halo.
Speaker 1:He's like shut the game off and like john's just taking all his guys with like a sniper and then everybody's running out, and then john, he shoots everybody and then it's nothing but just, uh, yosef, and then like like these storage containers, metal storage containers that are kind of blocking the sides of your screen, and then yosef's just down on the ground because he's injured, like sitting kind of to the right bottom, right of the frame, and then you just see john wick just slowly coming up. He looks magnificent in the suit and the hair and he's kind of beat up and he just simply walks up and then, uh, he calls like john wick, uh, a bitch or whatever something like that and they just shoot, go, shoots and then walks away and like slowly fades and it's like cinema.
Speaker 1:You were thinking it like I love it.
Speaker 4:It's not like a because you think this could be towards the end. Yeah, and it's such a quick moment of like. He just took everyone out so quickly at this base and he took him out quickly. There was no long monologue or anything like wow, he's not really the like. What is happening? Are we almost done?
Speaker 1:No, there's more, yeah, and like, of course, he like snipes out everybody and the guards, he blows up their getaway cars, which is great, yeah, and then you have Vigo's like make the arrangements. And it's like, fuck, his son died. So John Wick goes back to the hotel, whose manager gives him a new car as an apology for Miss Perkins. Marcus meets with John and tells him it's time for him to get out and just go home and try to live a normal life. It's like, can you?
Speaker 4:Nah, dude, he's like what do I know Because of hers? What I knew, yeah.
Speaker 2:I'd at least need another dog and I can't get.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're not as common as you think. And then, but while this is happening, perkins witnesses this and reveals Marcus' duplicity to Viggo, who has him tortured and killed and, like you also like before, we see like what happens to Marcus. Viggo calls John to taunt him with the details, drawing him back to the city. But yeah, it's just like you got Marcus. He's sitting there and he's punching him and stuff. You see that it's just like you got Marcus. He's sitting there and you're like he's punching him and stuff. You see that there's like brass knucks, he's like putting his hand in ice. And then we see like they stab his leg and Marcus is like I'm going out my own terms Kills two of the henchmen and then, like kills them. And then what I love is like he goes like you know, good play old friend.
Speaker 4:It's like, ah, if these guys weren't bad guys, these all just be drinking in a bar right now. They're not bad guys. They just get paid to do a job.
Speaker 1:We get paid to do jobs yeah, well, I mean yeah, no, um, but yeah, so this is gonna draw him back to the city. John goes to marx's house to find him dead. But it's just like why? Vigo, you could have been done with Wick. It was over Vigo. Ego, that's all it is. It's ego, shit man.
Speaker 4:I think it's because he would have been done. But, like you said, perkins came in and told him about the Marcus thing and that pissed him off. He's like I because he probably realized in that moment when he, you know, come out of the church with a shotgun, he's like if it wasn't for him, john Wick would have been dead. So yeah, but it's like you gotta swallow that man.
Speaker 1:John's gonna kill you. He's killed everybody.
Speaker 4:Well, it doesn't matter you got ego he's like he may be unstoppable, but I'll add more men, you're not that unstoppable, I think I could do it. Yeah, it's always that thinking the pride or something. Yeah, that you can do it like no one's this good it like he's a fucking boogeyman.
Speaker 2:No one's going to respect him unless he tries yeah. I guess so.
Speaker 1:And I mean, if you let him kill your son, you sold your son Also if he kills John Wick, right, that makes his status, because he lost all his blackmail, all of his money and everything. So he lost everything on everybody. So he has no power, he yeah. So we hear Lance Reddick call Miss Perkins, saying I'm sorry to call you at this hour. We see that she walks to this like open area and Winston pops up and has Perkins executed for the breaking of the continental rules and then informs John that Vigo is preparing to leave the city by helicopter. Winston, miss Perkins, pauses as he walks up to Miss Perkins your membership to the continental has been by thine own hand revoked. I mean, I love that. I love the Continental has been by thine own hand revoked. Got an executor. It's great love that. I love.
Speaker 4:Like the way he says by thine own hand when I went back and rewatched, because before four came out, I went back and watched the other three so I'd forgotten because I hadn't watched one as much because I really liked the sequels forgot about this girl. She just killed people on continental ground because you know, second one makes such a big deal about it and I was like what happens? I was like oh damn. I didn't realize. I completely forgot about this.
Speaker 1:It's like did she not know, I would have been like I'm not going to any place with you guys?
Speaker 4:I think hers is the because she thinks she's better. She's the folly of youth. Yeah, I think that's how I saw her. She's youth versus these people who are established and learning to respect. And that was her giveaway. She's like I don't care about the Continental, while the other old heads understood to respect it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so John races to New York Harbor where he fights his henchman, runs over a guy and shoots him as he rolls over his car. It's great we see that Avi asks for a gun and it's like Avi Mayhem, have a gun with you every single second.
Speaker 4:You're in a rut. I love how just the guy in the back, Vigos, is sitting here like, oh, this is happening and you can't stop it. And he asks for the asshole, but it's like dude.
Speaker 1:No, he just understands he's taking his final smoke. Yeah, if I was obvious, I would have gotten out and I would have just fallen and pretended to be dead.
Speaker 4:Oh, oops, I love how Mayhem gets hit with a car in this car insurance. Yeah, it's so great he gets run over, it's perfect.
Speaker 1:So then Viggo gets the upper hand by crashing into John and he, like, pushes his car over, doesn't explode because realistic move. Vigo tells John no more guns, and then it starts raining and they have their hand-to-hand combat. An injured wick struggles with Vigo a bit but ultimately wins. And then I love, because like they're kind of just stabbing each other a little bit and then he stabs him like I don't know on the shoulder or like somewhere.
Speaker 4:I think he gets him a little bit right here, but at this angle you hit like a major because you know you have your carotid artery, yeah, your neck, I think the angle he put it in and obviously that dude ain't going to last, yeah, I think the angle he put it would hit like a very major artery and he would have bled out internally mostly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so like they kind of sit after like the fight, it After like the fight, it's like V goes be seeing you, john. Yeah, be seeing you. Oh, fuck, yeah, that's because they say that there's all the other ones.
Speaker 4:There's always like some big fight he has with someone, like he's like the main henchman, and they always say like in the next one, was it who was that? I can't remember off the top of my head, I have to rewatch it. It was that rapper, guy right, common, guy, right, common, common, yeah, so common. And it has the same thing says be seeing you. And it happens again in the third one, to be seeing you.
Speaker 1:And I didn't realize in their mind, because I didn't realize it was connection themes, like we'll sit when they say be seeing you, it's like you're gonna be dead too soon, so I'll be seeing you soon, that's how I saw that in heaven, the freaking common and wick fight where they're, just where they're silencers, shooting each other in the yes, in like, they're in like a train station and they're just like pew, pew, like trying to secretly hide it.
Speaker 4:That was so funny.
Speaker 1:And then, like falling down those concrete stairs, like well, this has gotten out of the realm of somewhat realistic and she'll be dead, so John, resigned to dying from his injuries, watches on his phone a video of Helen telling him that he needs to go home. He breaks into a nearby animal clinic to treat his wounds and adopts a pit bull puppy, scheduled to be euthanized before beginning to walk home. John Wick, the end. So what's the point of John Wick? What's the movie trying to say? Is it trying to say anything or is it just trying to be like action Cool?
Speaker 4:I think action Cool. I could see some moments of like that whole world, of like you think you're out and it's not hard to like the whole easy thing and it's like you know you think you could be out of this world because you always think about people who grow up in rough neighborhoods and they say I got out, but it's so easy. If you just even that little bit of a drop, you're easily pulled back in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for this movie specifically. I know it's maybe not all of them, because the next one it's just like a guy he gave, like some sort of coin thing. Like it's a special, like you gave this to me, so you have to do this for me now. But in this one I think it's like revenge and violence only leads to more vengeance and violence. Because it's like you killed the puppy, took his car, so he has to kill. Joseph kills joseph vigo's like well, I'm gonna kill marcus. Marcus died.
Speaker 4:Well, now john wicks gotta kill vigo and it's just like none of this had to happen. It's also everybody's just fucking nice to each other. Well, it's also just like you got to learn to let it go, or do you want to keep going down the path of revenge, which is what it leads to? And it's like, john, are you really out, or do you really enjoy this live?
Speaker 1:yeah, and also, being young age with power corrupts people like Yosef who, just like he, can do anything that he wanted to to anybody but turns out you can't when there's hitmen everywhere. Yeah, I think like the kind of the. I mean, I think ultimately the movie is just about fuck yeah, good food baby don't fuck with my dog, yeah, but if I could find a point, is this like revenge and violence, but it's also a revenge movie, so that's what revenge movies are about or spay and neuter your pets.
Speaker 1:That is true everybody. Also don't have a Mustang. I want to know why that dog doesn't get euthanized, because it's a pit bull. Probably someone bought a pit bull in New York and they couldn't have it in their apartment, so maybe they just Well, people get those dogs.
Speaker 4:It was a puppy though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean it's like could we just?
Speaker 4:He probably still ate a baby. It's like, could we just?
Speaker 1:send it somewhere.
Speaker 4:Well, my coworker has a Stafford thing which is like a pit bull and that thing is like 70 pounds and the way he talks, yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we have that that's snake Does snake tackle you.
Speaker 4:No, but he does better. He tackles you guys yeah.
Speaker 1:He's not nearly as excited about me when I'm here, so all right. Well, that's the point of the movie apparently. So we're a different point of the movie send us some fan mail. It's in the description at the top you can click the link. Or if it doesn't allow you to click the link, go to the bottom and it's werecommendmailbag at gmailcom. I'm good at saying that Like bullet points.
Speaker 4:I love that you have this category, because whenever we do the Last Jedi.
Speaker 1:I would love to see what other. So we're gonna hit our next category the good, the bad, the ugly, the fine. That's where we discuss the good of the film. What we liked about the movie could be a scene, it could be the whole thing, it could be the actors, whatever. The bad something you didn't like. The ugly, something that didn't age well. Well, the fine something that did age well. So I think for it. Obviously the good is action and keanu reeves, I mean that's like the whole point.
Speaker 3:These movies are good.
Speaker 1:It's like. It's just like a perfect mesh of just a brilliant action star and just brilliant directing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it was the seamless sequel to Point Break.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, jason, I actually have a question. So on Collateral, you said like the, and then stuff makes it like a bad movie. But is this good? But I guess you do get like a little more story at the beginning it's just if you kill a dog, it's over, it's over it's vengeance, it's over.
Speaker 3:Because I was thinking while watching it.
Speaker 1:I was like because I immediately watched this after we recorded Collateral and I was like well, so John Wick's die and then he gets a puppy and then the puppy dies and then he kills people, and then he goes and kills, it goes the continental, and then he goes, kills more people and then, he goes back to continental.
Speaker 2:But the reason is the puppy, yeah, and plus the wife, okay, also. I get it, I guess All right.
Speaker 4:So any other good. I think, like I said, it just set a new standard for me on like action scenes and movies. That's like my good for it, like it was a new top tier.
Speaker 2:Yeah, top tier Like this is the new standard. You better follow it, because this is like the gold like it.
Speaker 4:To me it's like the gold standard and Fall Guy went up to that gold standard of stunts to show that like there's certain movies that do that.
Speaker 1:And I've been meaning to watch that oh dude, I think it's on Peacock, still it is so yeah, and just like I don't know, just the nightclub scene in the beginning scene in action film is so good, so for the bad, I put the final fight scene Finally, yeah.
Speaker 4:Sure, I could deal with it.
Speaker 1:Even in theaters. I was like, oh so we're doing the Taken thing. So where it's like you just saw the hitman kill or the action star kill all these young, spry, crazy people, and then it's like and then he handicaps himself for the final boss.
Speaker 4:He got hit with a car.
Speaker 1:He's tired, he's got to do hand-to-hand combat with a guy that looks like he probably couldn't even do a squat yeah.
Speaker 2:I really just didn't like how not enough people died. You'll like the sequels.
Speaker 1:Oh good, it probably doubles the death. I feel like they keep.
Speaker 4:I think they keep having more deaths per one.
Speaker 1:I know the second one is like way higher well then, like they all get like 10 to 15 minutes longer each time too, that last one's like three hours, but it's so good when you first watch it and you're like this is just constant John Wick action.
Speaker 4:What can I not like?
Speaker 2:falling down. I can only have an erection.
Speaker 4:I gotta go. Did he take Viagra and wife?
Speaker 3:no, it's like did he watch.
Speaker 2:John Wick yeah that's one of the things we have on here John Wick related deaths skyrocket it's like every time.
Speaker 1:It's like, damn, I can't get it up. Alright, let me put John Wick on what do you got for bad?
Speaker 4:bad it's just maybe some of the cliche moments, the final fight. Yeah, like you said, there's just a few little weak parts, but I explained them like how I see them weak moments. But I can kind of like in my head reason it out a little more.
Speaker 1:Got to hold my microphone. Earthquake spell Shut up.
Speaker 1:All right, so we're going to go to the ugly. It's something that in Age of Ult, something that I never realized in this movie, is how much luck went into Wick surviving this movie. Marcus twice, I mean, it's like always just like, oh dang, this thing happened and he was able to get out of a deadly situation. And I was like I don't remember that as much, no, from the first time I watched it. But I was like, oh, it's a very like Deus Ex Machina type thing.
Speaker 4:I think they kind of get rid of that a lot in the sequels. I feel, like it's more. There's moments where it happens, but not on that level. Like Marcus is a little straight up, like yeah there is yeah because without Marcus we die. Yes, they have a lot less moments of that in the sequel. So I think, that could be like the ugly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I thought it was. It's kind of like a cheap way to keep getting them out of all these hard situations.
Speaker 2:I don't really have anything for the ugly.
Speaker 1:I don't know that that's great with you Cool. So we're going to do the finds. I'm going to age well. Killing Russians? Yes, mob Russians.
Speaker 2:Unless you listen to the podcast. Well, yeah, Obviously.
Speaker 4:And they're all in the mob.
Speaker 1:We do actually have Russian listeners. Well, they could be using VPN, but that is true. But if you're Russian, we ain't got a problem with you.
Speaker 4:No, but in movies you're always bad and we can't help that. Just the bad ones. There's always someone that's gotta be the bad guy and it's just.
Speaker 2:It's just Russia, right now always killing people with bursht we had the Germans.
Speaker 1:Yeah, competent action for me. And Keanu will never die.
Speaker 4:Long live Keanu he's also been in the Spongebob show movie. So I mean you can't, you can't beat that yeah, they literally made a.
Speaker 1:That was the peak of his career. There's a movie called Keanu and he voices the cat.
Speaker 4:Nice, he goes oh yeah, when it's all he does, I did not know that that's so. Yeah, that was beautiful I don't know.
Speaker 2:I think russians are just like some of the best villains ever.
Speaker 4:They really are, and they're so it's because they're always to portray them as like the tough guys, and that's what's so cool is like it's when you're portrayed as the bad guy but you're portrayed in like a tough way sure, and they're always like the criminal underbelly and you just want to just wipe them out.
Speaker 1:So that's that category. Great job guys.
Speaker 2:Sorry I was. I'm not like anti-USSR, I was looking something up.
Speaker 1:So then we're going to hit our next category. It's where we it's called Double Feature. It's where we pick a movie that goes well with this movie. I'm going to say mine first, so no one else says it. I picked the Raid Redemption oh, I didn't know that. And action movie is so good that in the sequels they nearly brought everybody from this movie and put them in the John Wick movies. Mad Dog from Redemption that guy you've probably seen him in a ton of action movies. He's like looks older, he's got the long hair and it's like where he, John Wick, is like in that like really well lit room. That's a bunch of glass.
Speaker 3:And he fights the two guys.
Speaker 1:Those are the people from Raid Redemption. So what do you guys got? It's essentially if uh dread, uh inspired dread, because it's just uh, the SWAT team, essentially, is going into this building to rescue somebody and he's got to fight his way up, because it's also like a uh.
Speaker 4:It's one of those uh buildings that's so big, it has so many people, it's like its own community or like what am I trying to say? Like, yeah, and it's like a poor house, yeah, so like. It's so tensed in there it's like a like it's just weird to see.
Speaker 1:It's like a slum, but instead of being spread out, it's in this contained building like a prison almost yes, and honestly I'm not gonna lie the action is so fucking sick and favorite scene, I think, is the fucking machete and he just I love when, like like they break a door and then it's like there's like a little chunk, like to a point, like at the bottom, and he like takes it and he jumps over this guy and like slams his neck down on it.
Speaker 4:Their stunner is so cool because they take like. I feel like when you look at how they're smaller and spryer and they're jumping everywhere like Rey Mysterio it just like moves a lot. Yeah, jason, what's your movie? He's looking it up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was looking it up, I was trying to think of this, I had it earlier. But there's this movie where all the villains are on like bike helmets and he kills a billion of them. I can't remember right now Bike helmets. There's a lot of like faceless villains, but they're wearing like these black helmets.
Speaker 1:Premium. Oh, that's a bicycle thing, yeah.
Speaker 2:I can't remember what it's called?
Speaker 1:I guess not. Well, I'll give up, maybe.
Speaker 2:Jason will a bicycle thing. Yeah, I can't remember what it's called.
Speaker 4:I guess not. Well, I'll give out, maybe Jason will figure it out, yes. My recommended movie is Sisu.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, sisu, it's like the war movie, right? Kingsman, kingsman, okay.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that would be a good one. Sisu was like set. After World War Two. Old man lost his family but he's still trying. I think he lost his family after the war. No actually the war is happening. World War II is getting near the end.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like when an ex-soldier who discovers gold in the Lapland wilderness tries to take the loot into the city. German soldiers, led by a brutal SS officer, battle him.
Speaker 2:That sounds awesome.
Speaker 4:It's really, and it's like he doesn't like talk at all. It's basically like another John Wick. And that was like one day we it was when we had our movie pass Like, oh, let's go see Sisu. And we were like, oh, this is a good movie and it's worth. It's really worth it, especially like John Wick and like kind of revenge things that church scene is so good, I think the first one was really fun.
Speaker 1:I haven't seen any other ones. I haven't seen any other ones either the second one was kinda they got cowboys in it. I really wanted to watch it isn't it just no?
Speaker 4:I don't think so not bad. I don't. I know well, you got Justin Timberlake.
Speaker 1:Channing Tatum's in it.
Speaker 4:Channing.
Speaker 2:Tatum yeah, he spits the go on the thing.
Speaker 4:No, it's just there's certain they do. A typical thing, I think Kingsman to me was like this is a spy movie, like a goofy spy movie, but modern and it's fun to watch it was really fun.
Speaker 2:I just like this is a good like princess.
Speaker 4:Offers of anal sex that was hilarious, so bad, that church scene. Oh, dude, that church scene. I just was not expecting it. I'm just sitting here I was in the theater the whole time with my mouth open.
Speaker 2:I was like oh, that was awesome.
Speaker 1:We'll need to have that happen a little bit now. That is our episode on John Wick 1. Thank you for listening and make sure you join us next week because, after we just did two hitman action movies, we're going to go into something a little bit sillier. And we're talking about wedding singers, because we're doing my favorite Adam Sandler comedy.
Speaker 4:Grab your meatballs, the wedding singer.
Speaker 1:I've not seen it. You haven't seen it. Oh, it's so funny, I cry at the end.
Speaker 4:I put it on the other day but wasn't in the mood. It's on Peacock.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, oh man, when he does his song after man, when he does his song after he got broken up, it's like I want to kill myself.
Speaker 3:Yeah, hell yeah, kill me please.
Speaker 1:Pretty pretty please Kill me so good. There's a lot that didn't age well in that movie.
Speaker 3:Oh man, it's going to be a fun category.
Speaker 1:Yeah, join us next week for that and thank you for listening. As I said earlier, please send us some fan mail. Be like Dakota's a great guest, yay, or?
Speaker 4:you hate him. Tell him to shut up, yay also say that.
Speaker 1:I can hear him shaking his leg um, but yeah, send us some fan mail. Please leave us a review. If you know any John Wick fans, tell them. Be like hey, listen to this cool podcast, john.
Speaker 4:Wick fans no there's definitely not three of us in this room. Um so yeah, and be like hey, listen to this cool podcast. Are there any John Wick fans?
Speaker 1:No, if you like guns you like John Wick? There's definitely not three of us in this room. So yeah, join us next week for Wedding Singer. Leave us some reviews, Give us some fan mail. I'd like to thank Joey Prosser for our intro and outro music. You can follow him on X at Mr Joey P got anything to say? Kill?
Speaker 4:me.
Speaker 2:I want to die. I guess that's.
Speaker 4:John Wick's theme for the rest of the movies. Yeah, but you can't.
Speaker 1:And well, this has been the we Recommend podcast. I'm Jesse, jason and Dakota, and remember, we're the men you send to kill the fucking boogeyman.
Speaker 3:Bye, bye, bye.
