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Burn After Reading
What happens when ordinary people mistakenly believe they're caught in an international espionage thriller? The Coen Brothers' "Burn After Reading" answers this question with darkly hilarious results.
A stellar ensemble cast including Frances McDormand, Brad Pitt, George Clooney, John Malkovich, and Tilda Swinton bring to life some of the most delightfully idiotic characters ever put to film.
Whether you're a long-time Coen Brothers fan or new to their unique brand of dark humor, "Burn After Reading" offers a wickedly entertaining look at human folly, paranoia, and the chaos that ensues when everyone thinks they're smarter than they actually are. Watch it, laugh, and remember: sometimes there's no point at all.
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Hello and welcome to the we Recommend podcast, a movie podcast where every week, we recommend a movie for you to watch and then come back here and listen to us discuss. I'm Jesse, I'm Jason, you are a part of a league of morons. Oh, yes, you see, you're one of the morons. I've been fighting my whole life, my whole fucking life. But guess what? Today I win, because this week we recommend Burn. After Reading.
Speaker 2:You think that's a schwin?
Speaker 1:Yeah, john Malkovich, as Osborne Cox is saying what we all think today. Yes, it's just like we fight that battle every day day. I was literally at work yesterday and it was just. I didn't watch this until today and I was thinking I was like, man, this is exactly what I was thinking yesterday. I was just at work, I'm surrounded by a league of morons yes, I feel like I'm taking crazy pills not you or trisha or anything, just like everything else yes, so did you enjoy the film? Have you ever seen?
Speaker 2:it before. No, I never saw it, never seen it before. It was amazing. Good, such a fun time watching it. Although my I was watching it and my daughter oldest daughter comes in during the scene where Harry shows off his surprise to Linda, she goes oh my dad, what are you watching? Don't worry, it's.
Speaker 1:George Clooney his surprise to Linda. She goes oh my Dad, what are you watching? Don't worry, it's George Clooney, nothing's going to happen here.
Speaker 2:It's okay, it's a surprise for his wife.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or whoever he decides to have in the basement. He definitely used it on Linda right, and then he was going to use it on his wife.
Speaker 2:Yeah, isn't that weird, yeah, I mean, and the thought that his wife would really enjoy that. Yeah, it's a surprise. Yeah, I mean. Maybe I don't know, I feel like the like what he works really hard on it and it.
Speaker 1:You know it's funny, I watched it. So I watched this the first time, maybe like my senior year of high school. It was in florida. This I was like I was hanging out with this dude that came along with the journey or the trip and he was supposed to be like oh yeah, the two kids can kind of hang out. Was he CIA? Was he NIS? No, just didn't really have anything in common with this guy and did not want to do anything he wanted to do, so like, let's get a movie. He did not like this movie.
Speaker 2:I thought it was great who are you if you're out there listening? Who are?
Speaker 1:you. Well, it seems like from going online and I was just kind of reading up what people are saying about this movie and a lot of them were like is this movie supposed to be good? And I was like, yeah, dude, yeah, I think it's a movie that gets better every time you watch it, because the first time I watched it I liked it, but I didn't like love it, and now when I watch it, I'm just like Brad Pitt in the kitchen. That's stupid dance.
Speaker 2:It's so great.
Speaker 1:But this is just such a classic Coen Brothers movie Average people getting themselves into really stupid situations over money.
Speaker 2:I feel like they're, as George Clooney said. When he asked about what this movie was about, he said they're shockingly dumb people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well Doing shockingly dumb things. I guess what I mean average is just, you know, simple people.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I feel like I'm a simpleton.
Speaker 1:Average for today's people? I guess, I don't know. I feel like I'm a simpleton. Average for today's people, I guess, I don't know.
Speaker 2:There's people like this always.
Speaker 1:But it's just, you know people getting in trouble because of money. We've done Big Lebowski, the dude just kind of a dummy getting in trouble because he wants some money. Fargo bunch of dumb idiots getting into money, getting into trouble with money. No Country for Old Men bunch of dumb idiots getting into money, getting into trouble with money. No country for old men. Yep, I will say, uh, brolin's character isn't dumb, but it's just, you know, just some like country folk getting some money and you got burned after reading just some dummies getting money.
Speaker 2:Everybody thinks money's gonna solve everything yeah. But in order to get that, you have to kill.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which I mean it's weird because when I think about the coen brothers I'm like, yeah, they have their hand on the pulse of america.
Speaker 2:It's just people trying to get money any way that they can and that's what all his, their movies, all the way down my pants yeah, oh, they've it's.
Speaker 1:They got me. There's two brothers, there's it's two people, and they got all four hands in there. They only needed one too, so I don't know where the other three are. So let's talk about the performances a little bit Kind of five-star performances all the way through. Oh yeah, probably the funniest Pitt's ever been.
Speaker 2:He's so stupid God he's so stupid and his stupid haircut or his hair color.
Speaker 1:It is great I read that one of the costume designers for this movie is actually pretty tough because we tried to make Brad Pitt look kind of dumb and normal. But everything we put him in he was just so good looking, oh man. And when they went they were supposed to put him in a suit the suit for when he's going to be Mr Black. Yeah, osport, they put him in a normal suit. They're like Jesus Christ. There's no way.
Speaker 2:This guy's way too handsome Throw, some shoulder pads on there.
Speaker 1:They made this suit one size too big. They seamed it to where it completely didn't fit him right and then they gave him a wool tie.
Speaker 2:and they're still like still kind of too attractive, but this is all we can do. I also heard that his hair was messed up because of a commercial that he was doing. Yeah, and they dyed it all stupid.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And they're like this is perfect.
Speaker 1:They did. They actually also filmed this movie in New York, so they could get George Clooney in the movie because he was filming another movie at the same time.
Speaker 2:So they were just like we have to film in New York. I wonder what he was filming.
Speaker 1:I can't remember I should have looked it up, but I should have looked it up. But I think Pitt's performance is great. I think my favorite is Malkovich, though he's so good at yelling, he's so fucking pissed, he's so easily pissed off, it's great. And then, oh, they were just like hey, george, you remember what you're doing? Oh brother, where are thou? What if you did this? But a little bit more quirks. This is like constantly talk about how you might have something. Yeah, he gets it wrong every time. It says he's just such a liar he doesn't even know what to lie about anymore.
Speaker 1:He's just throwing out whatever he can have an issue with. It's like I'm lactose intolerant. It's like okay, next thing I have a show it's like. Which is it?
Speaker 2:no, he said acid reflux too. Yeah, he said, I've got lactose reflux too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he said I've got lactose reflux or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like why? Just because.
Speaker 1:Then you have Frances McDormand doing a essentially the city version of her Fargo character. Yeah, she's so good. Yeah, I love her when she just puts on that northern accent. It's just charming.
Speaker 2:I don't know, something about her teeth just makes it all work. Yeah, because she's got a great smile. But I don't know, I'll just love her.
Speaker 1:It's weird. I was about to say I thought of something really weird to say, I'll just say it. It's like she's man yeah, totally date Frances McDormand. Or hey, you want to be my mom?
Speaker 2:It's like it goes, either way.
Speaker 1:Guess that might be a complex.
Speaker 2:I should work out, just kidding, she'd probably be a great mom.
Speaker 1:Yeah, linda, be our mom yeah, so we've done four. This is our fourth Coen brother movie. So which one do you prefer out of them? Big Coen brother movie? So which one do you prefer out of them Big Lebowski, fargo, no Country or Burn. After Reading.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I feel like they're all like very different, very different, yes, why?
Speaker 1:can't you just have them all different and same? But because I put down in my little notes, make Jason pick one of the four movies. I think it all completely depends on your mood, right? Yeah, like if you're going to get high, big Lebowski, if it's like winter, fargo, or if it's like summer and you're just like I want to feel cold, yes, no Country for Old Men, that's like. If you're just kind of feeling westerny, for sure, like western noir, burn After Reading, if you just want like pretty much just laughs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if I just wanted to laugh and also be in some cozy ass homes. I liked everybody's houses. I was like, oh, these are great apartments. They're like kind of bare on a lot of them, but all the houses were nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, loved it. They were decorated.
Speaker 1:I always when you walk into someone's house if they got a picture of a gun like an old gun in their bathroom. I kind of like I'll come. You like pictures of old guns in bathrooms.
Speaker 2:I don't know it's so weird, but like whenever you see it, you're like man. It's kind of nice. And it's usually like a picture of a quail or something.
Speaker 1:Yeah or some shit. There's always some bird in a bathroom.
Speaker 2:I was like why it's like that's there's always a bird in my bathroom.
Speaker 1:I guess when you're taking a poop you're like man.
Speaker 2:I bird fly anywhere sometimes my bird will fly into the shower. When I'm in the shower, what? I just leave that thing out, uh, flying around. So you've cats, madeline. Yeah, they jump at it, uh, but he can fly. So it's a battle of wits, yeah, but like it's constant everything. Sometimes he'll jump, he'll fly into the shower and squawk at me and scare the shit out of me. Get out of here. This is mine and you like try to get him to take a bath. And he's like not having it.
Speaker 1:He's like no so let's hop in his facts, man yay, facts I love facts.
Speaker 1:The coen brothers, joel and ethan coen, said they wrote the screenplay for this film while writing the screenplay for no country for old men. They would usually alternate every day between writing how do you like put yours, how do you focus? They're just like well, we're kind of let's just do this similar movie, but like less assassins in one and well, there's also assassins in the other, kind of because everybody thinks everybody's a spy in it, which is just so good. Um, yeah, I don't know, it's weird, I guess they're. They're like oh man, we're tired of being so dark in this other one.
Speaker 2:Let's make funny dark stuff. Let's be happy today.
Speaker 1:We'll be sad tomorrow. And for the poster for the fictional film Coming Up Daisies states that it is based on a book by Cormac McCarthy, the guy that wrote no Country for Old Men, and the poster also shows that the fictional Daisy film was directed by Sam Raimiy, a friend and clapper clapper of the coen's, who did evil dead. I love how linda always takes her new boyfriends it's her way of determining if someone's a good fit for her. Because that first guy was terrible. It's like, yeah, why'd you take him home?
Speaker 2:I know when they she was scrolling and you see the guy with the big smile. He's like, oh, that one. And he's like, no, not that one, the weird guy.
Speaker 1:But yeah, it's like you mean the guy that looks like he's probably on a list somewhere. Yeah, yeah, that one so terrible. So on the criterion blu-ray of blood simple. In the shooting blood simple feature at with Barry Sonnenfeld, joe Cohen, ethan Cohen revealed the idea for the sex chair. Chair built by Harry was taken directly from the key grip on their film, who built a very similar device in real life and cited the exact same reasons as for Harry, at same reasons as Harry for its creation. So the fact that they wanted to buy that chair but it's too expensive, so he just made it himself. Yeah, that's crafty.
Speaker 2:So there's somebody they worked with. I love that when he was like I'm just, I just don't have the setup for molding hard rubber. Yeah, Not yet. I'll get there though.
Speaker 1:I'll have all the dildos there needs to be. Oh my God, I guess you just like sit there and just watch your wife. Just, I don't think so.
Speaker 2:No, you sit in the cuck chair that's next to it.
Speaker 1:Oh, gotcha, and that also has a. I'm just thinking will he bring this upstairs? Do you just do?
Speaker 2:this. I'm pretty sure it's staying down in the basement.
Speaker 1:It's a lot of hard work you got to go into that. Looks like the cake.
Speaker 2:Like he's. He's just gonna cage people in there, force them to ride that chair. So what it?
Speaker 1:looks you go down there.
Speaker 2:It looks like a creepy ass basement because it kind of was like a workshop, a sex workshop yeah, have you ever felt that someone was following you do? You ever get that feeling?
Speaker 1:I'm pretty sure I've been paranoid before this makes this movie makes me want to constantly look behind my windows Though I kind of do like in my rear view, but I kind of do anyways ever since I got followed from Cookout in Murfreesboro to my apartment and then was robbed. That's horrifying, so I do, I guess, kind of do that.
Speaker 2:Especially when I pull into. So somebody picked you out of a crowd and said I'm going to rob that rich guy right there.
Speaker 1:I think they were just waiting for someone to pull into the student quarters thing and I knew they were following me. I was like this is weird that they keep, because I was making weird turns, because I was avoiding someone that was outside. So I took like a weird route and I was like this is weird. But I was like didn't think anything of it, I was like I'll park it. And then I was walking up and he's like hey, give me your money. Had everything on my little cookout plate my phone, my wallet.
Speaker 2:What would have happened if you just kept driving and driving? Yeah, I don't know. I think maybe he would have got bored.
Speaker 1:I think they'd probably be like he knows, let's go, he or she knows, didn't even react.
Speaker 2:My school had the. We were having problems with people getting robbed like that. People were following girls into the parking garage, and so they had to install these all these like emergency phone booths. Oh nice, Like you just hit a button and it calls the police. Oh cool yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean terrible, yeah, yeah. Sadly they had to have that, but it's good for them. Cool idea though. All right, you ready to hop in the plot, but before we do, ooh, it's time for me to almost start the plot and then remember we have a category I have to explain, because I've done it every damn time.
Speaker 1:We've started the category. I want you to think, while you're at home listening to this, at work, driving whatever to think of the point of this movie. There definitely is one, and I feel like John Malkovich and what's his name? The CIA guy JK Simmons. Simmons definitely has the point of the movie, but we'll see, let's find out and let us know what you think in our email. Ah yes, our link in the description. Oh, that's a man that's about to drink a burr. There's no way I could drink a beer before doing this, like I'd burp so much I'd be like this gonna be annoying too, bro, yeah, yeah, you definitely.
Speaker 1:Uh, you hold in your burps pretty good, I don't really have the purple yeah, that's true that must be lucky I have to burp so much and I can burp so loud, that I just made it a part of my personality.
Speaker 2:You've got that lactose reflux.
Speaker 1:Dakota. It was either him or his girlfriend, lashawn burped, and it just brought like a tear to my eye that the last time I saw him they're like oh man, lashawn burped so well.
Speaker 2:I thought of you, jesse, and I was like hell, yeah, how do you burp well or unwell, well, it's just like a crappy burp I mean what makes it crappy Loudness and length.
Speaker 1:This is going to be my whole day and I have the ability to burp and continue talking at the same time like it's nothing.
Speaker 1:And it's so funny. Man, that is funny. Oh, I enjoy me, we all do. Oh, Jason, All right, let's hop into the plot. Now that everybody loves me, Everybody listen to the podcast. We actually prefer Jason. No, I can't. Who do you prefer? Let us know in the link in the description and then we'll fight, Get death. So the movie we start off in outer space Bum, bum, bum and we're slowly zooming in Like from the eyes of, like a satellite, essentially. Then we zoom in to the CIA headquarters. Faced with a demotion at work due to a drinking problem, Osborne Cox, played by John Malkovich, angrily quits his job as a CIA analyst. Palmer, with all due respect, what the fuck are you talking about? They're like, you have a drinking problem. You're terrible at work. I have a drinking problem. Fuck you, Peck. You're a Mormon Next to you. We all have a drinking problem, that's true. I mean they started this movie off perfect.
Speaker 1:They're just like, let John Malkovich yell.
Speaker 2:It's kind of interesting that we start off in space because, as as the person, the viewer, yeah, we have all the information that none of these characters do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's kind of why it's funny yeah, yeah, exactly, it's like yeah we're the, the satellite in the sky, seeing people just dig themselves in holes. It's like stop, please, for the love of god, everybody, stop. Have a sense of brain cells I don't know, obviously I don't have any, then I love he gets up. This is a crucifixion.
Speaker 2:This is political it's a crucifixion.
Speaker 1:It turns out he's a low-level guy and like doesn't even matter.
Speaker 2:I know I love that and he thinks he's so important. Yeah, he writes his memoir. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And so he goes home. He tries to tell his wife, katie, but she's upset he didn't pick up cheese, motherfucker. It's just like did you, did you get my, my message? It's like no, I came home early. It's like no, I came home early. It's like well, did she tell you? It's like no, I'm here. So you didn't get the message. Obviously I didn't get the message. It's like I got something important to tell you.
Speaker 2:I can't because I got to get the cheese. Hey, that sucks, man. One time I brought home raisin cookies instead of chocolate chip, like oatmeal raisin.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I be in big trouble in this house too. I actually like oatmeal, fuck you. I love oatmeal raisin. I like oatmeal chocolate chip.
Speaker 2:I don't yeah, yeah, oatmeal raisins. Why not meet in the middle?
Speaker 1:why not mash them together? You know what? Here's what I say about raisins just make, just keep them grapes. That's my big reveal about my opinion on raisins. Stop squishing. I've been taking all the good parts out, well anyways. So then we cut to a party. We meet Harry and his wife Can't remember her name and we learn that they're essentially everybody. Harry and Katie are having an affair with each other.
Speaker 2:Everybody's fucking everybody. And this is where we see Harry.
Speaker 1:He's like he's very, he's very eating in this movie. He likes to eat Um, and he's also a great eater. Every time he eats I'm like you're so. You're so quirky and nebbish yeah, it makes me get anaphylactic. Yeah. And then we we cut to Osborne finally telling Katie about quitting. He is going to write a memoir. He goes to tell his unrest yeah, he's going to write a memoir.
Speaker 2:He thinks it's going to be very explosive. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And she's very upset by this, Like, oh what, You're just going to use my money now. It's like did you even get your pension? He's like no, I quit. He's like what, Don't do that, Just get fired next time.
Speaker 2:But but he did. Didn't he get fired? No, he didn't.
Speaker 1:No, because they were going to take him somewhere else.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they were just going to demote him.
Speaker 1:They weren't going to fire him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I was just taking the demotion, like okay, whatever, why not You're getting older? Like settle down, settle down. Then he goes to tell his unresponsive dad on a boat yeah, it's probably the only place he can just go and say everything that he wants to say.
Speaker 2:His only safe place Is with his dad Is with him and his boat yeah, where his wife goes to have sex.
Speaker 1:It's great.
Speaker 2:Everything sucks in these people's lives. I know they don't and they don't know.
Speaker 1:That's what sucks for them. None of them know. So, katie, she sees this as an opportunity to file for divorce and continue her adulterous affair with harry um. Katie sees a divorce lawyer who tells her that she needs to get all her financial records from his computer and any secrets he has before he is tipped off on the divorce. I love that. The lawyer acts like osborne is just like very secretive, uh, spy and everything. They're like you got to get it one up on this guy, okay, because he's gonna be coming after you he's an analyst, yeah, and he's like he's an analyst like what are we talking about?
Speaker 1:um, we cut to osborne just rambling about the cia, uh, and it kind of reminds me of Michael Scott whenever he decides, like I'm going to write a book, and he gets a little thing and he has like nothing to talk about and that's exactly what he does. He starts to be like just rambling on about something and he's like I don't know what to say Then?
Speaker 2:he's just staring out the window waiting for 5 o'clock to come so he can drink, so he can start drinking you don't have to wait till five. Yeah, proof. So yeah, you're not working, you're an adult.
Speaker 1:Yes, it is. You got the day off two o'clock and jason started. We're not judging here yeah, we're not judging me yeah, it's like if I could keep my wits about me, I'd probably do the same thing. But I'll just read my screen as much as a.
Speaker 2:It's more of a sip sipping. It's a tall boy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm gonna sip so we cut to Harry and Katie having sex on a boat. I've never had sex on a boat me neither man but it's great I need to go on a cruise get the motion of the ocean, yeah.
Speaker 2:I guess they're in DC, so maybe it's like a river. Yeah, I guess it probably it's.
Speaker 1:So maybe it's like a river, yeah, I guess it. Probably it's a bay, right, chesapeake Bay, yeah, that's what they call it. Yeah, this is. And so, and this thing with Harry, every time he has sex he goes for a run. He's gotta keep, he's gotta keep that adrenaline going. That's what fuels Harry. Everything is just adrenaline fuel for him. It's gotta be something fun. He's got to be on the hunt, on the run from something. And when he starts going on the run he notices someone's kind of following him. So parallel all the time, yeah. And then like the car passes on me, he's kind of looking around. Then all of a sudden you see like a zoom in on him and you kind of hear a camera zooming in. Yeah, fun. So, taking her lawyer's advice, katie, she copies financial records and several other files from her husband's computer onto a CD. These files contain a rambling, meaningless diatribe by Cox on the purported CIA activities. This is when the music starts getting very dramatic and I'm like what this is?
Speaker 2:Wait, I thought it was just financial records.
Speaker 1:No, it's like she just kind of got everything I think it seemed like Copied his hard drive. Yeah, just copied, probably like the most recent stuff, I'm assuming. Yeah, so, because the whole, the whole thing that sets us off is his him talking about the cia, making the other people think that, oh, this is like top secret information, but he's just rambling about cia, low-level cia stuff.
Speaker 2:He's never done a great thing in his life.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:He analyzed some shit. I hear you, Osborne.
Speaker 1:Just kidding, extreme mediocrity. So then we meet Linda, who wants to essentially get everything done to her body possible. She wants a total of four procedures. What a great scene. The doctor so good. The actor crushes it Because she's just like, oh, I'm just my charming self, you know. And he's just like, right, okay, yes. We then meet Chad, linda's co-worker. They look at her dating profile. Linda learns that her insurance won't cover her procedures as well. Yeah, that sucks.
Speaker 2:Well, you are, we're in a healthcare system.
Speaker 1:Well, this isn't really essential stuff. No it Well, this isn't really essential. So this is elective things. They say, yeah, yeah, I guess. Right, like I mean if you, if you like, needed the surgery, I'd get that Like, oh yeah your insurance would cover that, but some countries they'll cover it because it's for your well-being.
Speaker 2:It's kind of like gender uh affirming yeah, care.
Speaker 1:Well, I guess they did say that their insurance sucks, so yeah, they call it mickey house. Yeah, it's like we have a terrible insurance plan.
Speaker 2:It's like I don't think most insurance is covered I wonder if it was because she came in and she's like what is up with this mickey house hmo is it called mickey house I don't know.
Speaker 1:I thought she said Mickey mouse.
Speaker 2:No, it's Mickey house, but there's supposed to be like. Is that supposed to be a spoof on Mickey mouse?
Speaker 1:I assume, I don't know, I don't know, I, I, I didn't even notice, I don't know. They just said Mickey mouse. I mean, I love her dating profile, all that shit is great, it's like plenty of fish.
Speaker 2:Yeah, one of the first.
Speaker 1:It's one of those things where she can't put her own picture up, which is, I think, kind of a great idea actually. Yeah, for things, so like when you do go meet him, if you're just like oh, I didn't realize this guy was going to carry so many guns on him to this date.
Speaker 1:Give you a last chance, bag. He's like I'm just gonna keep going red hat, no cap, yeah. So after work she goes to see a match on her dating profile, alan. He seems very off, boring and quiet after an unemotional sex session. She snoops through his wallet and finds a note from his wife. Most likely oh, yeah, plunger.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not cheerios. Yeah, I love where they where they meet up it like everyone goes to the spot.
Speaker 1:It's like well, obviously wives don't come here, only single girls do. Nope, um so, uh, back to Harry and Katie. Katie tells Harry she is divorcing Osborne. Harry says he should divorce his wife. Katie's like I thought that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 2:He's like oh, he's like. I thought that's what we're talking about. He's like. Oh, he's like. No, I got a good thing going here.
Speaker 1:My wife's a famous writer now just like immediately, as soon as he's like realizes oh, you're getting divorced.
Speaker 2:Well, this has gone too far no, your husband's a piece of shit, but my wife's a good person, great and you were supposed to stay with him and I only have sex with you when I want to.
Speaker 1:I have to live with you now, obviously cornered, because it turns out Harry might be a piece of shit when Katie CD gets left on the locker room floor of Hard Bodies a local gym, such a great name by a, a carrier, careless law firm, uh, secretary, essentially this is the older lady, right. Yeah, it falls into the hands of a dim-witted personal trainer, chad gotta love chad.
Speaker 2:Co-worker linda oh, I know, and when he looks at the files he's like it's just a bunch of numbers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, some words and more numbers yeah, because yeah, that's what I put in because they mistakenly believe the data data are bank records of like the CIA and it's a highly sensitive government and Chad's like talking here about department heads and their names and shit. And then there's other files that are just like numbers arrayed, numbers and dates and numbers and numbers and dates and numbers. And I think that's the shit man, raw intelligence.
Speaker 2:Something he likes? Yeah, most definitely.
Speaker 1:We see Harry. He's noticing that he's still being followed. We also see him building something that looks ominous.
Speaker 2:Oh, with the pipes, yeah, or with the metal pipes or whatever.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, we'll wait until we get to the chair. Uh, linda and ted, her boss, go out to get drinks. She's asking for an advance. He because he wants the. It's like uh, the surgery.
Speaker 2:And he's like I don't think I can do that for this.
Speaker 1:It's like also, this is a gym. How much advance do you get at gyms, right, yeah, it's not gonna be much, I guess it's a fancy gym. But in new york, so maybe a salary you get a lot. It's not going to be much, I guess it's a fancy gym but in New York, so maybe it's a lot.
Speaker 2:It's not hourly wages, it seemed like it was salary, right. Yeah, that's what they kind of hinted at.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know, I kind of want to work at hard bodies. I guess, if you work at a gym where a bunch of DC executives and people go to you might have to have some kind of security clearance, but they definitely don't. Yeah, yeah. So, and while they're having all this, she's like, oh, I need this, done, this, done. He's like no, you're perfect, you're beautiful, someone out there will like it. Yeah, she can't get to him like he's got.
Speaker 2:He's got like 15 signs around him that just says me, I love you he's like yeah so, hey, if you thought that maybe some people like you the way you are, yeah, she's like, yeah, losers, yeah he's like oh okay, well, fuck me.
Speaker 1:I guess yes uh and it's richard jenkins. He's so funny, he's you just. He's just such a lovable guy, right and everything he does. You always root for him. You don't ever want anything bad to happen to him. The coens make sure you regret feeling that way. But yeah, so she's not catching on and he's just too nice for her. Essentially, we see Harry hooking up with a different girl this time and they have sex and he says I could go get a run, he could get a run in.
Speaker 2:It's kind of like having popsicles after sex. Yeah, adam Sandler movie. Yeah.
Speaker 1:After getting the data traced back to Osborne, chad and linda plan to give the disc back to him for a reward, with linda planning on using the money to play for plastic surgery. And then you got the weird pit dance. He's like, yes I love it.
Speaker 2:So he's on the treadmill, he's like dancing, yeah, and I love that this is happening like I don't know.
Speaker 1:2, 3 am in the morning. He's like so do you have anything to drink? I just rode my bike all the way here. It's a long distance. It's like I got water Tap water. It's like you don't have any Gatorade. I drove all the way over here I didn't know. So they decide that they're going to give Osborne a call.
Speaker 2:And I guess we could say the call goes horribly wrong. Yeah, because he immediately thinks that his memoirs are so important that someone would steal them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and he's just like you. Listen here, you fuckers. You don't know who you're messing with, but I love it because Chad's on the phone. He's like Osborne Cox and he says it like three times. Yes, I thought you might be worried about the security of your shit. Pitt is a fucking matt. I don't know.
Speaker 1:He's good in this he's crushing it he's very good at being dumb, yeah, um, harry's wife well, and essentially he just yells at him and threatens him, and the situation goes from zero to 100 pretty fast and Linda's on the other line.
Speaker 2:Who the fuck is that he's like? Who's that?
Speaker 1:It's like I'm coming for you guys. So we see Harry's wife. She's going on a business trip and as she leaves, Harry notices someone watching him, but then they drive off. Boom, boom, boom.
Speaker 2:But are they really Nope? They're going to come, but are they really Nope?
Speaker 1:they're going to come. No, there's definitely someone watching them.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:And they're going to come back. Katie goes to her lawyer, where we see it was her lawyer's secretary who lost the disc. And this is the time where it's like, all right, everything's set in stone, all you got to do is sign off.
Speaker 2:But we usually like to say since we're at the point of no return, give it one more day to think about it.
Speaker 1:I love how she kept her in her gym bag.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1:Then we see Linda gets matched with Harry. I kind of wish nothing bad happened. And then like Linda and like Harry got you know, went to be better and then they got together because they're a very cute relationship. But they essentially go on the same date as she did with Alan, the same place they eat. She's immediately loving him because he's so talkative and fun and energetic and just like wants to eat a piece of her thing. He's like does this have shellfish in it?
Speaker 2:because I can't eat it and then he eats it and he's like, he's like, oh, fuck it, whatever, live dangerously yeah, and then he eats it and oh, it's so good have you ever found anything at the gym like no, a cd only. One time, when I was a teenager, I found a cassette tape and I brought it home to listen to it, and it was my introduction to musical theater. It was a little miser. It was the soundtrack to la miserab, really and I loved it.
Speaker 1:Someone's just fucking listening to les mis in the theater at the gym that's weird.
Speaker 2:I was like I love this shit man.
Speaker 1:Anyway, I've only heard like I've only heard like one song, I think, from les mis. I need to watch the movie, but movies are cool, is it?
Speaker 2:is it cool? I haven't seen the one with yeah, the newer one. I haven't seen the one with yeah, the newer one, haven't seen the newer one. So I'm, I'm at solid.
Speaker 1:I always just assume it's like sweeney todd, but less gothic, rich people. Uh, guy wants to get with girl. I just assume that's what everything's about in music, basically yeah. So, um, yeah, they go on their date. It's a great date. Harry laughs at all the main things you're supposed to laugh at and he's coming up daisies or whatever. He's a great con. They go to her house and they have sex yeah, I love how he's like.
Speaker 2:You notice there's no ring on my finger. Yeah, I always tell the truth.
Speaker 1:we are separated. I am completely transparent. Yes, where have we heard that before? I've never told a lie. So Chad goes to meet with Osborne about the disc. He's in his best suit, riding a bike. Chad tries to act tough. He's like constantly like I'm Mr, what does he call himself? Dark Mr Black. I'm Mr Black. Almost looks like he's trying to do Robert De Niro face a little bit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's trying to be mysterious and he sucks at it way out of his depth here.
Speaker 1:Osborne tells him that he could go to jail and eventually cause of blackmail and messing with the CIA, and he eventually just hits him in the face. Yeah, that was awesome.
Speaker 2:It was great he's like, oh fuck, it was so. Eventually just hits him in the face. Yeah, that was awesome.
Speaker 1:It was great. He's like, oh fuck, it was so shocked, yeah, and like the whole time he's like where's the money?
Speaker 2:Squinting his eyes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 50,000. But then Chad does not give him the disc and runs, osborne drives off and Linda picks him up and then rams the back of his car. She was pissed. She's like I get my surgeries, I get my money, but I have my money. And then Linda has the great idea for him and Chad to go to the Russian embassy.
Speaker 2:First thought, yeah, who's a spy? We could take this to yeah.
Speaker 1:And so they essentially they go there, they're like, what the fuck is this? They give them a disc, they take the disc and they're like, hmm, well, if you have more, we could give you some money. So, yeah, they want to try to get a little bit more information so that they can get maybe the $50,000. And I love that. The entire time Linda's like can we hurry this up? I got a date, date, date. And then Chaz is holding his nose the whole time and then Chaz is holding his nose the whole time. We see Harry trying to convince Katie that they need to move slowly, revealing that they are together so that they don't hurt Osborn. Wait till he gets back on his feet so he doesn't really freak out about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just give me more time and she goes home and then Harry's laying flat on the recliner.
Speaker 1:I sound drunk.
Speaker 2:Wait, why does she say does his blood have stool in it? On the phone call that she gets? Oh, because, like, who are they?
Speaker 1:talking about what? Oh shit, I just assumed it was about Osborne. I did too. Oh, she's a, she's a doctor, she's a kid doctor?
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's a kid doctor.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's a pediatrician right, okay, gotcha. Yeah, that's right, it's the blood I've stolen. I was thinking, for some reason I see me put together that it was like Osborne, like maybe he got hit.
Speaker 2:I thought it was too, but he didn't go to the hospital, he just went home drunk. He just went home and got drunk.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we see. Then Harry goes on another date with Linda he home and reveals what he has been working on a rocking dildo chair sex machine. Yes, and I was gonna say something. We got to this point, didn't I? I knew I should have just said it that chair rocks, no, um well, forget it, can't remember cool way to go jesse yeah, um seems like a ridiculous chair do you think?
Speaker 1:if you, your wife, came home, I was like, hey, this is what I was going to ask how well do you think this would go over?
Speaker 2:Not good. I don't think she'd sit on it, especially if I was the one that built it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, if Brad Pitt or George Clooney built it, then maybe she'd sit on it.
Speaker 2:I can barely put together IKEA furniture without putting it together backwards. She sits on it and just falls off. Put together Ikea furniture without putting it together backwards. She sits on it and just falls off. That would be my fear, but man, he really worked hard on it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he really did. He did a great job. He should sell those on Etsy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, make a pretty good living.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, that's curious. So Osborne learns that Chad and Linda took his disc to the Russians and at the same time gets served his divorce papers. That was really good. And he drives home and sees his stuff on the doorsteps and the locks have been changed. My uh Ugh, that sucks.
Speaker 2:Has that ever happened to you? Locks being changed? No, like all your shit's on the driveway.
Speaker 1:No, I have not.
Speaker 2:Yeah, luckily I'm a good boy, my parents, it was my parents.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think he told us that once on the pod. It was one of those facts where I was like what the hell, I did not know that.
Speaker 2:Thanks, dad, nothing.
Speaker 1:I mean, if they did it in the rain, though, I'd be like you're dead to me. No, no, it didn't rain.
Speaker 2:Dead to me. I really didn't have that much stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like one chair and bag. There you go, you have somewhere to sit in your bag, thank you. So with no other data to give the Russians, linda persuades Chad to sneak into the Cox's home to get more files from the computer. Chad, outside of the Cox's home, sees Katie and Harry go inside for a quickie.
Speaker 1:He's got his pillow, yeah, his sex pillow. Katie leaves Katie and Harry leaves, obviously, harry, looking like he's about ready to go for a run. So Chad makes his move and goes inside. Chad notices that there's a man outside, that it's the same man that's been following Harry watching him. Harry is dropped off five miles from Katie's home and is running back 5.2 miles yeah, 5.2 miles.
Speaker 1:And he's running back to it, as Chad is breaking into Katie's home. We got a ticking clock 5.2 miles and he's running back to it as Chad is breaking into Katie's home. We got a ticking clock baby. So, Chad, he's downloading more data and is about to leave One dun dun dun. Harry walks in God how frightening and nothing bad is about to happen. Yeah, he should have just ran back downstairs and exited out of the door. He entered right.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean he could have just went to the back, oh, you mean through the basement, because he went through the back door.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, probably would have been a better idea though he does the worst thing you can do in any situation go upstairs yeah put yourself in the corner just go upstairs you never go upstairs. Um so, and then harry fine, uh, yeah, so he goes upstairs. He hides in the closet, got harry's taking a shower. I'm like leave, leave, and he's in the closet Got Harry he's taking a shower. I'm like leave, leave, he's in the shower, just run out.
Speaker 2:There's nothing else to do. I was so paranoid that someone else was going to come in. Yeah right. Because, Harry's paranoid that someone's following him, yeah, and so I was thinking like some agent's going to come in through the door too.
Speaker 1:But the worst possible thing happens for Chad because Harry goes into the closet and then he's got Brad Pitt's stupid giant smile like hey, he gets shot right in the head.
Speaker 2:I was so shocked because he said multiple times to this point, like twice.
Speaker 1:I think that he's in all of his years of service, he's never discharged his weapon and he does it immediately easily. Well, I think he did it because he's been followed for a while.
Speaker 2:Then he's like oh shit, this is it and he was.
Speaker 1:I mean, my reaction would be to immediately punch the face. I don't know, I would probably just freeze. Yeah, I just love that they. They did the classic gun thing. They introduced a gun in the first act and now it's got to go off, at least at one point. Oh yeah, you're right, I love that chad sees that there's a gun holster with no gun in it it's like, oh, it's like chad you should have more in the corner.
Speaker 1:You shouldn't been right in front of him, just go to the corner, wait till he gets out, pretend to be a suit, or you should have ran out as soon as he got in the shower because he's not going to chase you outside naked maybe, and plus you're, and they have the quietest closet doors on the planet, shit, you know. Thinking about it now, I'm surprised they didn't do a chase scene because they're both like fit and like. Oh that would have been really funny.
Speaker 2:Harry runs, and so that could have been really great yeah wait.
Speaker 1:You know what, cohen? We're better filmmakers than you. Uh oh no, we take it back. But what I love right here it's. This is where we see that this movie is going to be kind of fucking brutal now, I had no idea. It's very, very brutal and I forgot how much blood is splattered in this movie. That was amazing. It's not as bad as the ending death, yeah, Jesus. But yeah, I love Pitt's smile and then I love that because he goes down, Harry goes downstairs and he comes back up with a knife.
Speaker 2:He couldn't believe that he just shot someone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then he's like, he's like checking to see if he's alive and he did the roll to get his gun.
Speaker 2:You just shot him in the head, man, you just shot him.
Speaker 1:I think he's done dude. And then he, like Harry, checks Chad's identity and sees that he has none, and all his tags from his clothes have been removed.
Speaker 2:So he couldn't trace. That was funny. Remove the laundry tags from your suit, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So no one can trace you. They don't know what suit you bought or anything like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, ok.
Speaker 1:And he thinks he says like I killed a spook spy or whatever they consider. Later, at the CIA headquarters Palmer, the guy that demoted Osborne and his director learned that the information from Osborne has been given to the Russian embassy. The two men are perplexed, given Osborne's low-level security clearance, the material delivered to the Russians being of no importance to anyone, and the apparent motive of the Russian embassy?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and the apparent motive of Paul. He's the head of Insider at the Russian Embassy?
Speaker 1:Yeah, obvious, and the apparent motive of all involved parties remaining unknown. Cia also saw Harry dump Chad's body in the Chesapeake Bay, where Osborne's boat is too, by the way, and they are fuzzy on who Linda is. Palmer asks what they should do about the body and the director says uh. Director says, burn it so they don't have to deal with it. Palmer is told to maintain observation until the situation makes sense. Oh, that was so funny. Yeah, he's just like. Well, what about the bodies? It's like what do you? Uh, should we like investigate?
Speaker 2:He's like no, just burn it. Should we get the FBI involved? No, no, fuck, no, we don't want to fucking get rid of it. We don't want to deal with that.
Speaker 1:It's like I love it. The CIA is just like. We don't want to deal with shit. Yeah, but here's the thing. You know, this made me actually feel bad a little bit for the CIA, that idiots found themselves in this situation. We don't even know how they got here, who they are, why they're doing anything, and it's just like. Then it turns out they're all idiots.
Speaker 1:Nothing means anything, but it is a great scene. Jk Simmons and that Palmer guy the guy that plays Palmer is fantastic as a yes, okay, yeah, classic number two. Just the Just JK Simmons's face when he's like, yeah, just contact me later if it makes sense. I don't know what to even do with this situation.
Speaker 2:So he's like I love that. When he asked what kind of security clearance he had, he's like oh, oh, ok, that's fine, none of this matters, who cares? They can have it.
Speaker 1:They already have this information probably this is what our guy inside the russian embassy just talks about daily. Um, so we see that osborne is living on the and, you know, actually thinking about it, and something that you don't really think about the first time you're watching is this is a point where they're like the movie's telling you everything that is happening is dumb, it's stupid and does not mean anything to the world. But it's all. And it's the point where you're, I think you're supposed to click that these guys are fucking idiots, and then you're supposed to just enjoy how everything devolves. The farce, yeah.
Speaker 1:So we see that Osborn is living on the boat and that Katie and Harry have sex in Nice. We cut to Linda crying and talking to Ted. She's worried about Chad. Ted tells her someone came in asking about Linda, but you say beat it, creep. She then gets a call from the Russian embassy. She asked them about Chad, but they don't know what she's talking about. Harry, burdened by keeping the day's prior events secret, is chopping a shit ton of carrots. Yeah, he's having a rough time, yeah, and he immediately gets into an argument with Katie and decides to leave the house with his sex ramp pillow thing.
Speaker 2:That was a huge fit.
Speaker 1:On his way out. He calls his wife to get her to come home. He spots a man who has been trailing him for the past several days and then he's getting out to talk to him and the guy just starts like oh shit. Starts hitting the cars in front of him and behind him Everybody's dumb.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And so Harry gets back in his car and just like reverses it straight into the guy, gets out and chases it and harry chases him and tackles him to the ground. Harry finds out that the man is a private detective hired by his wife, sandra um together really upset about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for impending divorce proceeding. I love it. He's like who are you? Uh, I work for tucker man to marsh, who tucker man to marsh, and they just say tucker man to marsh and it's like how he said I said earlier, in all the other Coen brother movies they love the repetition of dialogue because the more you say it, the funnier it gets. It is always good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, see, I really thought that Harry was going to go on this like accidental killing spree.
Speaker 1:It ends up being a serial killer by accident. Dude, we have a fucking movie there. A paranoid skit. Yeah, it's perfect title accidental serial killer. I need to add it to my list of dumbass movie makes and then Harry starts to cry and walks away. The guy's like get over it, man.
Speaker 2:It happens to all of us yeah, don't be such a baby, harry, which is what everyone should do.
Speaker 1:That's like part of the movie everybody needs a boat to everybody just needs to get over it. This is what this is life, this is what happened. Um so, and then we cut to sandy sandra, who's shown to also be having extra marital liaisons of her own. Yes, so it. So it's just like Custer's, like well, everyone's fucking cheating, everyone's having sex except Ted, damn it. Yeah, poor Ted. And then we see Osborne's checks have bounced. That sucks what did he do?
Speaker 2:What did he do? That was so that made her want to take everything.
Speaker 1:I think it's just just he's an asshole. I think it's just like these. That's what these I think what it was is her lawyer is like he's going to take everything from you, so you have to take everything from him, so you need to do it first before he can do it. Yeah, situation, it is a. It is not a nice divorce.
Speaker 1:This is the type of divorce that rich people get into to have everything. Yeah, hell, yeah. So Then we cut to Linda at the embassy and learns that all the info on the disc is drivel Dribble. The whole plot and everything that has happened is all because they found this stupid CD of a memoir. And everything that they have done, the people that are going to die, the people that have died, the lives that are ruined, are all because of a bad memoir.
Speaker 2:Or someone who didn't know what intelligence was.
Speaker 1:Yes, that is the Coen brothers in a nutshell. So Osborne learns that Katie has taken all of his money. Linda talks to Ted and tries to convince him to get more information from Osborne. He says no and Linda says she hates him, leaving Ted sad and at a bar Harry is devastated, destroys the dildo chair. What do you think a seven and seven is? That's like whiskey and spur Like seven up, yeah, seven up Whiskey and seven up that sounds pretty good yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when he's destroying the sex chair and he hits the dildo. Yeah, this was a present for my wife.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she would have loved this Used on three other girls probably.
Speaker 2:She would have loved it, yeah, and now it's gone. And then Harry goes to see an agitated.
Speaker 1:Linda confides in Harry that Chad is missing and Harry's like. I can't deal with this right now. But, Linda is looking for a man of action. Yes, like I can't deal with you, I got my own shit going on. But Harry decides to agree to help find Chad and then, in a rage, osborne decides he's going to go to Katie's house because he's got the keys. It's a hatchet.
Speaker 2:I've got the new keys um yeah, I really thought he was gonna murder someone too well, I mean we'll get there.
Speaker 1:I thought, yeah, yeah, um, and also the scariest thing on the planet, I think, is an angry john mackovich. Yeah, that guy is scary, yeah, so yell so loud. Yeah, he's so good at being pissed. It's scary, harry. Harry and Linda meet in the park and Linda provides him with more information about Chad's disappearance, but also Harry's like who is that guy? Then a girl walks up to him and he's like, oh, okay, no, nobody. When Linda mentions the name Osborne Cox, harry figures out that Chad is the man he shot with cell phones. There's also a great line he's talking to very relevant to today. This was before smartphones. There's this part where he's saying it's like everyone's kind of got cell phones now.
Speaker 2:So like because, talking about how to find he's a US Marshal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and how to find Chad, and it's like everything's easy now because everybody's got cell phones. It's like soon everyone have a cell phone and with cell phones, it's like soon everyone have a cell phone and with cell phones, people are gonna know where you are at any given moment.
Speaker 2:It's like it came true, kind of it totally is. I mean they kind of have to go off the cell phone towers and where they ping.
Speaker 1:But that's no, it's also not like literally every single true crime dog always has now someone turning off their phone and then reopening it, but it just makes it more obvious. You got to leave your phone on at your house. Yeah, just leave and then you go. You can do stuff without your phone. That's how the um people hate it one of the things that tipped off. That was obviously the guy that in the idaho murders that killed the four college students.
Speaker 2:He like goes at a certain point to kill four college how to kill four college students.
Speaker 1:Well, he already knew he was studying to be a criminologist or like forensics and stuff. Yeah, so he goes, he's going to it and once he gets to a certain point turns off his phone, does the murderings, leaves and then at a certain point turns it on. The cops are like it's obviously fucking him and must be also a ton of other information and evidence he left. He was a bad killer. Good student, bad killer so bad student yeah well, student of killing, he's an incel, so this is who he was yeah, they suck.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So, anyways, take the brown pill, we'll cut back, yeah. So Harry figures out that Chad is the man that he shot, he panics and realizes that there are strange men in the park, most likely the CIA. That are the people trailing. Actually Linda, not him, and he flees, assuming Linda is a spy. I love it. Who do you work for? Who are you? It's me, linda Linsky. Linda Linsky, oh geez. So Ted, believing the Russians have kidnapped Chad, he agrees to go to the Cox's home to search for Osmond's computer.
Speaker 1:At the same time, the CIA has Linda completely covered, got men behind her, a car behind her, beside her, on the other side of her, in a helicopter hovering right above her car. He's like oh, for Pete's sake, so good man. Everyone is bad at telling. In this movie, though, everybody is terrible at it.
Speaker 2:So, but it's like the one time that Harry almost got something right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, yeah, but it just wasn't for him. He's so paranoid. And then here we come to the Damn Hardest part of the movie.
Speaker 2:It's our boy, richard Jenkins, about to have some bad stuff happen to him. Richard so.
Speaker 1:Osborne, who already raided the liquor cabinet, finds Ted in the basement. Osborne initially takes him to be Katie's lover. He soon realizes Ted's affiliation with Linda and what he refers to as the League of Morons. He feels that he has been struggling against his whole life and shoots Ted. Ted is able to run away.
Speaker 2:He's also one of the morons.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's equally part of the morons. Osborne follows him out with a hatchet and kills him right there in the street. That was fucked up, fucking brutal dog. Yeah, man Yowchie right in the face a couple of times and it's to the Out of all fucking people. It had to be this nice guy, ted, that is just trying to help a friend in a shitty situation. Yeah, but he was the only good guy that just saw someone crying in his office that he loved, so he decided to do it.
Speaker 2:He did kind of break into someone's home. Ah, fuck Osborn.
Speaker 1:No, you're right, but he's just trying to get. But at this point, like from his perspective is she seems to be in trouble. We can't even find Chad because of this situation. Let me just try to help him. Maybe you can smooth all this out, that's true, and what does he do? He died.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he gets shot right in the chest.
Speaker 1:It's rough and he throws like a hole puncher at him. It allows him to get away, but he just gets beaten to death with a hatchet. So now we are at the CIA headquarters. A few days later, palmer and his director try to understand what exactly happened. It is revealed that, while trying to board a flight to Venezuela, harry was detained because his name was on a hot list, and that the CIA is holding Linda, who is promising to play ball and sit on it if they will pay for her plastic surgery. I love how he's just like fuck it.
Speaker 1:Pay her, yeah, just pay her A CIA agent shot Osborne during assault on Ted and the bullet put Osborne in a coma because they say, oh, so he's dead and he's like. No, he's like fuck, they're like.
Speaker 2:Well, if he wakes up, let me know he said oh, there's one more thing, linda the woman oh fuck yeah, what about her? He just missed an episode of his favorite show.
Speaker 1:He completely forgot about her. So the director instructs palmer to let harry fly to venezuela, as that country has no extradition treaty with the us and therefore will not send him back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he just doesn't want to deal with it. Yeah, he's like who cares what this?
Speaker 1:guy did. He has nothing to do with anything. Let him go, and he's going to pay for linda's surgery. The director and Palmer conclude that, despite their oversight and the unusual events that have unfolded, there appears to be no reason for the agency to have learned, be it moral espionage or otherwise. The director I guess we learned not to do it again. Fuck, if I knew what we did. The director concludes. He concludes that he doesn't know what he did and, despite not knowing exactly what they did, and closes the file. Then we zoom out back to space where the world just keeps turning the end.
Speaker 1:Jason, what's the point, man? There's no fucking point.
Speaker 2:What's the point, man? There isn't a point, there's no fucking point.
Speaker 1:That's the point.
Speaker 2:Most of what everybody does is stupid and idiotic and it doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 1:Just, goddammit, have fun out there guys.
Speaker 2:Hey, you got one life to live.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Go steal some government files and sell them to the Russians. I thought the point of the movie is how meaningless everything can be. The movie is just about a bunch of people going through shit, finding themselves making every wrong decision, only hurting themselves and other people more, and that everybody has main character syndrome and it's dangerous. Everyone's just out for themselves, trying to be a hero or a romantic lead. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Don't do that. You're not a you're not a main character. If you have the idea to do something like this should, do you ever think you should just stop and ask someone else like ask, find someone who's like smarter than you and be like just let me run?
Speaker 1:this bike real quick. That you know. That's the thing is. That was, that's what head was to linda and chad, but they wouldn't listen to him, you're right. Uh, katie, was that for osborne? We're're right, katie, was that for Osborne? We're all screwed. The wife was that for Harry and the CIA is just they're all smart but also just like out of the loop, because you know who the fuck are these people who?
Speaker 2:are these people, these people?
Speaker 1:How about? Sandy's book the cat that interrupted a filibuster. Yeah, it's like, what is he? I paused it on that scene and rewatched it. I'm like what is the meaning of this book for this film?
Speaker 2:That's a dumb book. Yeah, oh yeah, it's wonderful, it's great. It's all good. It's all good.
Speaker 1:Cohen's baby. Oh, I can't wait to do. Whichever one we do, I think probably the next one I'll want to do is probably going to be a serious man, and it's just about essentially just an average suburban Jewish man cursed by oh shit, what's the? I've probably seen this movie. What is the Jewish curse they put on? I don't remember. Anyways, so we're going gonna finish out this movie, though, so we're gonna talk about the good, the bad, the ugly, the fine. It's where we discuss the good of the film something we liked, a scene, character, whatever. The bad something that we did not like. The ugly something that didn't age well. The fine something that did age well. Um, what do you got?
Speaker 2:for the good. I think my good is that Linda is the only character in this whole movie that came out on top.
Speaker 1:Right, she did it. She's getting her plastic surgery and everything. She's gonna change her ways. She's getting her tummy tucks or whatever, face peeled back or whatever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what are the four surgeries? She's probably gonna get Probably like a facelift. She's doing her arms Boob job. She's doing the boobs.
Speaker 1:Oh, she did talk about it, she's doing the face and she's doing a tummy thing. Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:She was going to do. She was going to do?
Speaker 1:she was, I guess it's liposuction, facelift boob job, and I don't remember what else, I was just guessing, yeah, I didn't know. Well, they kind of say most of it, I, they're going to pull her arm, flap up her crow's feet, cheeky, cheeky, and yeah, she's talking about it's going to get her boobs bigger. She wanted to do stuff to her thighs but the guy's like, well, you can actually still work out your thighs to make them smaller.
Speaker 2:No, that's hard.
Speaker 1:But when you get older, everything goes to your gut and your butt. Yeah, yeah, I put the good as the ending. With the debriefing, I think this whole movie probably barely doesn't really work unless you have all the CIA shit. That was an amazing ending. It's the punchline. At the end of the movie. It's like oh, what did we watch? Something pointless Like thanks, coens, glad I did that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, some stuff happened.
Speaker 1:Honestly, that's how all Coen movies kind of make you feel at the end Just like, oh, nothing mattered Except.
Speaker 2:Fargo.
Speaker 1:Cause, you know, march she gets, she gets to have her her life still, and in this movie she still gets to have her life, yeah. So what do you got for the bad? Uh know, my I put my bad is that it probably isn't the best movie for the first watch. Completely not true, though, because you just said you liked it. It's the first time you saw it. But I think for people that say like the movie doesn't work should watch it again, because it you just have to see all the intricate.
Speaker 2:I was in shock like the whole time I was in shock and like kind of laughing yeah, but like just amazed at how dumb bro everybody just watch it every two years and your laughs would become like your lives go from haha to haha maniacal laugh, especially every time jk simmons like ends the ends one of his scenes. It's like like hell yeah, he's one of my favorites.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so the Ugly. What do you got for the Ugly Dating?
Speaker 2:apps, I guess. Yeah, I haven't been on one in so long but like, I remember being on them and it was bad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll put how true kind of this film is today, you know just, everybody's really just still fucking creating conspiracies in their head trying to act on them, and but they're real, jesse, thinking that everybody's a spy or an agent or massive conspiracy and stuff like this and like you know what, someone's gonna fix it, I'm gonna have all this money now. Was this before q anon? This is 2008. This is I think this came out before this is definitely this is a Bush era movie.
Speaker 1:I think a lot of the movie is probably based on you know everything happening around the George Bush era.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Did you have anything for the?
Speaker 1:ugly. What did you say?
Speaker 2:I didn't really have anything. Dating apps, dating apps, that's right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it seems like, the older dating apps seem a little bit better than the new ones, they weren't. For the girl at least. You don't even have to put your face up so you can feel safe whenever you go, and try to find the person and if they look crazy, you can walk away.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we've lost that over the years.
Speaker 1:Making women feel safe yeah, and now it also now makes everybody feel so insignificant because it's just like your face. Don't like your face. Don't like your face. Like your face, swipe what that face do, swipe. Um, so the fine something that aged well mine is always gonna be when I do this for a coen brother movie, fucking coen's they're amazing, they're my favorite filmmakers and they always will be, and plus the are great.
Speaker 1:I love that. They essentially took like some of the best performances from their other movies and put those people into this movie and essentially just made a great little like story while they're writing their I don't know best picture winning movie. It's like if this is just like a yeah, this was a side project we're doing, it's like your side project's better than most people's movies their main movies. So yeah, fucking assholes yeah, what do you got for your um?
Speaker 1:you're they wipe their asses with this yeah yeah with the script, they sneeze this movie out of their nose. So what age? Well, for you?
Speaker 2:uh, I don't think brad, well, I don't think brad pitt, age well, have you seen him? God, he's always hot watch.
Speaker 1:Once Upon a Time in Hollywood he takes his shirt off on the top of a roof, and I was just like it's like shit, get me on a roof. I was like, oh, why is my chair all wet? It must be like all the girls around me just getting wet and I was like that's me that bit took way too long to get out the joke. Is girl's supposed to be wet, but it me wet. Yeah, jesse wet, jesse wet, jesse wet boy, oh god um no, I think, uh, the coen's definitely the age.
Speaker 2:Well, I don't know, farce Just looking down on actors as they do stupid shit.
Speaker 1:It's the best. It's nice to see beautiful people do stupid things.
Speaker 2:Yes, it is.
Speaker 1:Because all the actors and beautiful people we see, they always live the most perfect lives and then you have to see them really go downhill Cool. So that's our good, bad and the ugly. Fine. Now we're going to cut to our next category, Double feature. Will we recommend a movie that would be a great watch alongside this movie? Jason, go first. You might have heard of this movie before.
Speaker 2:Oh brother, where art thou?
Speaker 1:Yeah, george Clooney is always in a tight spot, a bunch of idiots in a Coen Brothers movie, doing one thing after another and it's actually based on. Well, it's the Odyssey and they also base it. I guess this is the oh brother, where art thou is there. They consider it their Wizard of Oz, but it's also the Odyssey. You got the Sirens, the Cyclops, the Cyclops, yeah.
Speaker 2:John Goodman, god damn.
Speaker 1:I love John Goodman, turn them into.
Speaker 2:Hornet Toad.
Speaker 1:It's the best. Love it. And. I Come singing to my can. Yeah, I chose a movie called After Hours, the Martin Scorsese film. Where did all my stuff go? It's um, it's a movie where essentially one guy who's bored one night decides to go get some coffee, meets a girl and the worst night of his entire life, nice happens, it is. I don't see it like there's a point in the movie where I mean all he's doing is just he lost his money in the cab and just everything spirals and spirals, and spirals to the point where there's an entire neighborhood looking for this guy.
Speaker 1:But yeah, it's directed by Martin Scorsese. Fun fact about it it was originally supposed to be directed by Tim Burton. I have no idea what that movie would have been, but there'd probably been some Skelemons in it. But yeah, it's a great, fun, short little movie that one of our best filmmakers did.
Speaker 2:It's amazing.
Speaker 1:That's cool. Yeah, that is our episode on. Burn after reading, don't burn after listening.
Speaker 2:You ever try to burn a CD? It doesn't, it bubbles.
Speaker 1:Yes, I have, I have burned a CD Me and Richard did it one time. Hell yeah, just because we're like, let's burn some shit, what that CD do.
Speaker 2:We ain't got no parental supervision.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, his dad went out on Saturday nights.
Speaker 2:We watch movie and play Call of Duty. Let's put some shit in the microwave.
Speaker 1:How many Diet Dr, or how many Dr Peppers, can we drink tonight? Eight, I probably had a billion Dr Peppers at his house and have probably eaten a thousand tombstone pizzas at his house.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, it was wild. That's all we did every weekend Fun.
Speaker 1:So if you have fun, let us know. And also have fun next week watching a great movie called Cloverfield, a movie I was obsessed with leading up to the release of it, and you know what Loved it when I watched it and couldn't wait to see what great sequels this movie would have, only to learn they're just going to do weird side projects around this world and it's like why won't you? Just do another one More monsters, please have monster go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, join us for Cloverfield. I'm going to be yelling about the movie and all the all the fun little Easter eggs and things you could do on like just literally in the movie they had little Easter eggs on the actual eggs on the disc, you know, know, like the home screen when you go to like play movie. Yeah, if you did little combinations, what little things popped up in the corner and you could click on them and have like little scenes. That's wild or just. And you could go on websites like physical media. Where did you go? You could go on a slush show website and then learn about how, like they've been drilling and stuff in the ground and it's just like.
Speaker 1:What does this mean? It's like ARG, I think, is what they call it, or whatever it is.
Speaker 2:That's amazing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, join us next week for Cloverfield. Damn Jason, it's time to close this memoir and this case file or whatever Memoir. So, everybody out there, we'd love to hear from you. Got a couple of comments on, uh, youtube, can't remember the guy's name, but he wants us to do bottle rocket and wild at heart. You ever heard wild at heart? No, oh, bro, it's a lynch movie, david lynch movie. It's about the loss of innocence. Like all his movies bat shit, insane, it's crazy.
Speaker 2:It's got nicholas cage and um, oh, no, you know, it's batshit crazy if he's in it.
Speaker 1:What's. What's her name? Uh, what's her name from jurassic park?
Speaker 2:popular hot actress. I think it's her name laura dern. Uh, that darn darn. I was gonna say a different name that I just made up um, but yeah, uh, thank you for leaving us that comment.
Speaker 1:if you're still listening, that was on the Royal Tenenbaums episode. And then there was also another person on our YouTube for Coherence. That is like he loved the movie Coherence and had a little chat with him.
Speaker 2:It was great.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, keep sending us things and I'll talk to you. Whoever you are, we love talking to people. Yeah, link in the description at the top. At the bottom, it's our Gmail. We recommend mailbag at gmailcom. I now have to burp so much. It's crazy. Yeah, leave us some reviews. It'd be great to see more reviews on our podcast. Come on, just do it. You got nothing better to do.
Speaker 2:Come on, mom. Stop TikTok-ing and God want, just do it.
Speaker 1:You got no better stop tick tocking and god dang, review it. Uh, yeah, and people that I keep telling to do it at work and they won't do it. But I'm starting to feel weird about constantly asking them to review us. I've never felt more like you can't know. I feel like a mormon person going to people's houses like, hi would you like to review for your lord and savior? Yeah, fuck, yeah, dude, um, but yeah, thank you, prosser, for our intro and outro. You can follow on X at Mr Joey Prosser. And well, this has been the we Recommend Podcast. I'm Jesse, I'm Jason.
Speaker 1:You know, I could go for a run. Bye, thanks for watching.
