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Cloverfield
A nameless trailer that crashed into theaters during Transformers screenings became the talk of the internet overnight. Just a date—1-18-08—and fleeting glimpses of destruction in Manhattan. That viral marketing campaign launched Cloverfield into the cultural consciousness before anyone even knew its name.
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All right, jason. So we have to discuss our intro. Oh man, intro to what? Our podcast. So I kind of get a lot of shit about the way I say hello, hello, like Mrs Doubtfire. Well, no, that was probably. If anything, that's probably everybody's favorite hello. I've done, but I always kind of get crap about the way I say hello and welcome to the it's just hello is a weird thing to say.
Speaker 2:I don't know Apparently well, it's just.
Speaker 1:I guess I don't ever say my voice kind of. I guess it's weird to say in an enthusiastic way, hello and welcome. I don't know, so I'm going to cut out the hello. So I guess we can start the podcast. You ready, I was born ready, all right. Well, I guess we can start the podcast. You ready, I was born ready, all right?
Speaker 2:Well, I just want to say hello, so bad, just get it out.
Speaker 1:It feels weird. I feel like I need to welcome my friends.
Speaker 2:Hey, hello.
Speaker 1:Or maybe, hey, welcome to the we Recommend. I don't know, but I think I'm just going to start by saying welcome to the we Recommend podcast, a movie podcast, where every week we recommend a movie for you to watch and then come back here and listen to us discuss. I'm Jesse, I'm Jason. Okay, just to be clear here, our options are die here, die in the tunnels or die in the streets. That's pretty much it. That's pretty much it Because this week we recommend Cloverfield. Yeah, boy, so Godzilla's like ugly cousin. It's like a tick that drank Godzilla's blood and then like grew, damn, yeah, like radioactive blood. It kind of has like a tick-like feature, I feel like to me, like the little ticks it drops off its back. I love those guys. Those guys can party with me anytime. I love the little parasites. It's kind of crab-like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're awesome. They kind of remind me of the Starship Trooper bugs. Yeah, they do, don't they?
Speaker 1:They're really small but like small versions of them with, like I love their little mouths, their little beady eyes.
Speaker 2:And they make your body explode. Yeah, it's incredible.
Speaker 1:It's like are they impregnating them?
Speaker 2:Are they just?
Speaker 1:like Maybe their bite kind of reacts to our bodies and fills us with gas and fluids, and then your stomach explodes. Hell yeah, Lizzie Kaplan man RIP. Sorry girl. Sorry, you died in this movie. She's an amazing actress. She always has small parts of herself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's the lead actor. She's got top billing in the movie, yeah Well she's.
Speaker 1:It's actually funny. The lead character Rob is Mike Vogel and Lizzie Kaplan both show up in New Girl.
Speaker 2:Very, I think like the same episodes. They got rubbled, they got.
Speaker 1:Barney rubbled. Rob Shrey did, rob Shrey did, I think. Well, who's in the Cloverfield Lane? That is Elizabeth Mary Elizabeth Winstead.
Speaker 2:Was she in this?
Speaker 1:movie no.
Speaker 2:That is a. I kept thinking it was one of the survivors.
Speaker 1:So I guess let's talk about how they've completely fucked up the franchise, right. So there's Cloverfield. This came out. Everybody's like oh my God, there's all. I don't know if you remember the trailer for this. No, did you go see Transformers? The first Transformers?
Speaker 2:movie when it came out. Oh, yeah, yeah, megan.
Speaker 1:Fox, Also a new girl that I'm watching. It just got done with her set of series. So the cool thing about this, they dropped this perfect trailer. Right, You're watching the trailers for Transformers. Me and my buddy's like I can't wait to see Transformers, even though I'm not the biggest Transformers guy Can't wait to watch it. There's some shitty trailers probably.
Speaker 1:I'd assume Probably an Iron man trailer, dark Knight trailer, whatever. And then next thing, you know, it's like whoa, there's this found footage thing, there's something crazy. And next thing, you know, you just see the fucking Statue of Liberty's head there. You, you see something saying like oh my gosh, it's huge, it's alive. And you're like what the fuck are you talking about? Did he say it's huge or it's a lion, I'm not sure. So people thought it might have been a Voltron movie, because it's a lion.
Speaker 1:And then it just it cuts off after you see all the screaming and stuff in the head and it says one 1808. No fucking title, bro. Literally. I'm getting chills talking about it. I did not care what happened in Transformers after that trailer Because I was a boy that loved big monsters. I like big monsters more than I like big robots, so holy shit.
Speaker 2:What were we talking about? Liberty's face? Is it like the surprise? Look on her face. Oh what were we talking about the Statue of Liberty's face is like the surprise. Look on her face. Yeah, it's like oh, it has had an.
Speaker 1:I-ego face, whatever you call it. It's funny in the trailer the Statue of Liberty's head is much smaller.
Speaker 2:Because they made it bigger for the movie, because they made it the actual size of the Statue of Liberty, like robot chicken, like build the dolls.
Speaker 1:Weirdly, I guess the Statue of Liberty's head is not as big as you think it is apparently. Wow, yeah, you'd think it'd be much bigger.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but man dude, that trailer which led to me going online on my AOL internet where if you wanted to load up anything it took 10 to 15 minutes. Hell, yeah, took 10 to 15 minutes. So I'd be on my computer like 7 pm to like 5 am, just like 1-18-08, and then when you do that, it like took you to this blank website that just had some pictures from the movie, like close-up of people like scared, like covered in dust and stuff no information yeah no information, that's it.
Speaker 1:But if you dive a little deeper, all the characters have MySpace pages. Whoa, what Viral marketing, baby.
Speaker 2:That's insane.
Speaker 1:And the fun part about that is all of them logged in. The last date they logged in was the release of the movie and they never did anything again because they all died.
Speaker 1:And then you had all the deeper things, right? So you have JJ Abrams. He, in the show Alias that he created, there is. He likes to put his own branding in it, like slusho shirts, which is what Rob's work, oh, really, he has on. You go to that Web site, takes you about, like it. You dive deep into, like, oh, this underwater drilling and things like that.
Speaker 2:Is it the same as Sephora?
Speaker 1:No, but there's also a funny thing about that. I'll have to tell you later, but it's this whole thing that you could. Then you go to this another website and you learn about the drilling. And there was a lot of drilling for like oil or like some sort of like mineral or something that they like were putting in the slush hoe drinks or something. Oh sweet. And then, like they'll have some pictures and it's just drilling, and then there's like a video. It's the drilling, but something like goes across the in front of the drill and then it like attacks it, and it was like really cool, that's what they really drag you down a rabbit hole.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dude, this is why I was obsessed with jj abrams and before I realized, oh shit, this guy's just trying to be like steven spielberg his entire career. But uh, it just led to this obsession with me and it's why I love cloverfield. Now, why I got upset about cloverfield is they never gave us a sequel, but talked about having a sequel before their movie came out. And then, you know, they released 10 cloverfield lane, probably the best movie in the series and way better than cloverfield. The cloverfield will always be number one in my heart. Yeah, there's just no monsters and yeah, well it's till to the end.
Speaker 1:Then you get like the ufo and stuff like afterwards and it's like this whole big reveal of oh shit, there is an actual monster invasion. But it's like alien UFOs. And it's not Cloverfield, though. It's just like they use a Cloverfield branding to make this great script that Damien Chazelle, who directed La La Land, Whiplash First man, wrote, but they just decided to turn it into a Cloverfield movie.
Speaker 2:That's a wild thing to do. Yeah, they did kind of.
Speaker 1:They did the same thing with Cloverfield Paradox. It wasn't originally a Cloverfield movie. They turned it into a Cloverfield movie I don't think I've seen.
Speaker 2:Paradox why didn't they do the same thing as they did as Tremors 2 and 3? Let's make it, hey, let hey, let's give them, let's give them wings. It's like, oh, they can walk on land. Third one they can fly. They fly now, they fly now um four, they tunnel again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it was just, it was just such a weird thing, um. And then there was also, uh, a quiet place that was originally supposed to be turned into a cloverfield movie, but they're like, well, is too good, we're actually going to keep it. That would have been closer, yeah.
Speaker 1:I know they actually kind of look similar shapes and stuff, right. And then there was this movie called Overlord. I don't know if you saw it. It takes place in like World War Two and it's like Nazis turning people into monsters. That's cool, fucking amazing, it's brutal, it's rough it's great, I'll let you borrow it.
Speaker 1:It's got John Boyega in it, wyatt Russell, kurt Russell's son, in it. It's pretty good. It's like it's pretty vicious and that's what I like about it, but yeah, but so, after over like 15 years, they're finally like hey, by the way, we're giving you that Cloverfield sequel. So in January 2021, jj and them, they're like hey, we're going to give you a sequel, an actual sequel. That's not going to be found footage and this is going to be a regular ass monster movie. That is a proper sequel. It's going to be, let's see.
Speaker 1:I guess it's going to be written by Joe Barton, who I don't know if you've seen the movie the Ritual on Netflix. He helped write that movie. That's cool. And it's going to be directed by, oh god, babak Baba Yaga, but it's Babak Anvari. He's an Iranian filmmaker. He did a movie called Under the Shadow which I blew about watched, which was pretty good. Um, yeah, but he has a couple movies on Netflix and it's supposed there's no release date. Who knows if it actually ever gets released. Seems like everything JJ touches gets weirdly crazy release dates way down the line. But yeah, that's uh, that's history of Cloverfield, I guess.
Speaker 2:I didn't mean to go through all that, but I ended up just doing that. And do you think what's the guy's name? Tj Miller.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:His character's name is Hud. Do you think it's short for a heads up display?
Speaker 1:Like first person. Yep, that's exactly what they did. Isn't that great? It's so fucking fantastic.
Speaker 1:So now that I went through all that, what else was I going to say? Yeah, it's just such, is it not just like a great idea for a monster movie to make it found footage? Yeah, I think it's a pretty cool way to look at it. Yeah, it's really good, because every fucking stupid ass monster movie always is like we got to get. We want you to have the perspective of the people because it's cooler and it's like yeah, it is, but you guys like never show us that, right, it never makes it believable that these are people stuck into this situation. And this actually gives us that feeling of hey, you're on the ground and there's a monster and it isn't attacking you, it's just attacking. It's attacking everything else. Yeah, and it's just, I don't know, but it gives us the ability to get very realistic shots of the creature from Sex Kid you might not normally see in a monster movie, and it's just like this is the shots when it looks up and you got the monster like, and it's like ah, this is cool.
Speaker 2:I ah this is cool.
Speaker 1:I do like how they. They delayed showing you what it looked like. Yeah, they for a while, because jaws kind of uh completely ruined ever seeing monsters in a monster movie.
Speaker 2:Well, it's a shark.
Speaker 1:You know what sharks look like yeah, but you know, it's the whole fact that, like, you never see the shark, really till the very end, okay. And then every monster movie after that's like, yeah, we decided to go the jaws way, and it's like, just say you didn't have the budget to show the monster. And if you show monsters too much, it does lose the effect, I guess.
Speaker 2:So yeah, and they don't even show the whole Cloverfield monster till the very end.
Speaker 1:Which that's what JJ was like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like Jaws and it's like OK, Show his headlongs in his belly arms yeah.
Speaker 1:But there's something really cool about this. Just because you know what I like, All right, you know what sucks about the new Godzilla movies is that they look like crap. They're very cool to watch, but it's just. You know, when they finally got to the area where you wanted it, you want to see these monsters interacting with each other and it's like you want to get rid of the humans.
Speaker 2:It's like there's too much humans especially in the first couple of Warner Bros.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's like oh my god, I don't care about these people. You didn't make them likable or anything.
Speaker 2:The little girl saves Godzilla.
Speaker 1:Oh well, the Asian kid is great in those parts, rebecca Hall's great. But then you know they give it to you. But what do they give it? They give it like this hollow earth thing and it's like, oh, this is all computer generated and it looks bad and it's just like I don't know. It just ends up looking silly when you see them too much. But it's like we got to find that like sweet spot of you see plenty of the monster and you also just give us a good human story and show us plenty of the monster. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they can't find that middle ground. Yeah, I think you're right. Host did it very well. Yeah, maybe we did earlier. That's like almost like the perfect version of you cared about the characters and the monster. You got tons of it. I do like it.
Speaker 2:Like in Godzilla, if you're going to show the monster, you got to show a wrecking shit yeah and shit all the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, and fighting something big. Yeah, which I feel like this did very well.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, but even without it you should see like explosions and shit flying through the air. Yeah, it was awesome.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh man, the shots of it just getting bombed was great. So did you notice the thing falling in the water at the very end? The Coney Island stuff? Did you notice the thing falling in the water at the very end, the Coney Island stuff? It's like where it cuts back to them. It's like I had a good day, oh, and then it falls into the water. There's like this thing that falls into the water. That's what it was. No, oh, the creature is on Earth and it came from the water, I believe.
Speaker 2:That's what I believe.
Speaker 1:Well, what was that thing then? Some Jason, you know, some people don't fucking know. It's pretty easy to assume it's a monster though when I remember I try to look up, I felt like there was plenty of things that said what. There's a lot of speculation what the creature is. It's obviously a deep water creature. That's why it's got like crab-like parasites on it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so the idea is that like that thing fell into the water, I believe, and like woke the creature up, oh, but there's also kind of stuff that kind of goes against that. I have so much fucking shit in my notes, dude, it doesn't really to me, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I guess you could say it's a deep water creature, but the crab thing's on its back, I mean, did they all just breathe oxygen, thinking too hard? If it's just like a deep water creature, thinking way too hard.
Speaker 1:I mean, it felt like it had like almost, uh, amphibian, yeah, like things on its side, almost kind of like frog, like yeah, that was the membranes coming out of its head, yeah, so maybe that helps it breathe on land and maybe it was a creature that used to roam and then could go between water and land and it just lives in water but comes up on land just because it can.
Speaker 2:I don't know somebody threw a rock from space and woke it up hey wake up.
Speaker 1:That was like the dad daddy cloverfield, like it's time to wake up. There's a civilization we have to destroy. Oh, that'd be crazy if there was an even bigger clover. Yeah, uh well, this is a baby.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, yeah how do we know?
Speaker 1:that, uh, let's get into the notes, okay. So before we get to that, though, I have other notes. So, um, this was very fun to learn after I watched the movie. Finally, they sort of had information. So there's images from the movie 1993, 1933, king kong, uh, 1953, the Beast from 20,000 Fathoms and the 1954 them. There's little images hidden throughout the movie and if you pause it at the right time you can see it.
Speaker 2:It's cool.
Speaker 1:It's an homage to monster movies.
Speaker 2:There's also a lot of Spongebob Squarepants on the TVs. That is true. Well, why not? It also has a Maybe this monster lives in a pineapple Squidward.
Speaker 1:I gotta go kill in New York City. Well, I think something people would say about this podcast is really bad Spongebob.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean I get it.
Speaker 1:So the idea of having air sirens blaring in the background at the end was Steven Spielberg's idea. He felt the sirens would serve effectively as a countdown to the massive blast that comes. I just love how everybody takes their movie to Steven Spielberg and he gives a, gives like one note, and they always put it in. I feel like we've done, I would too. We've done a lot of movies where Spielberg's like do this and they're like yes, sir, yes, daddy. Obviously you can't watch this movie, it being in 2008, without people like the obvious 9-11 imagery.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah for sure. So Matt Reeves brings up the idea of some people comparing the events of the film to 9-11. He says I think we were always aware that it did, in that we felt like it was a way of dealing with the anxieties of our time. Reeves goes on to mention Godzilla how these kinds of genre films deal with real-life anxieties people have, how effective that makes them. But at the same time these films are a comfortable way for audiences to deal with these anxieties. Like the original Godzilla it was all about the nuke that hit Japan Like the original Godzilla.
Speaker 2:It was all about the nuke that hit Japan, you know right. Oh, yeah, yeah, I thought you were talking about the one that came out in like 2001. No, no.
Speaker 1:That was about. Hey, the guy that Roland Emmerich make a cool movie that's going to be actually really bad yeah.
Speaker 2:But loved it as a kid. I just remember the PR campaign, for that was insane. Yes, the Taco Bell shit. I had the Taco Bell cut out.
Speaker 1:That's awesome, it's huge. I had, I had like the mama, godzilla and all the little baby ones. Great idea to have a Godzilla make babies. You know, wish we saw the scene. So one of JJ Abrams ideas during filming for Matt Reeves, the guy that directed, uh, war of the planet of the apes.
Speaker 1:And uh, what was the one? No, dawn of the Planet of the Apes. He did the two sequels after Rise of the Planet of the Apes and he did the newest, batman. So Matt Reeves started with this movie, which is fun. Matt Reeves to take an extremely small crew to New York City and shoot Gorilla Style on the streets. Extremely small crew to New York City and shoot Gorilla Style on the streets, gorilla Style on the streets and the sheets.
Speaker 2:It does feel like the camera is being held by a gorilla.
Speaker 1:Right, it's like it's very realistic.
Speaker 2:I didn't know if I was getting motion sickness or if it was because of the medication I took.
Speaker 1:I'm so lucky that watching things on TV does not give me sickness. If I try to read something in a car I'll get sick, but if I'm watching a movie where they're like, I'm like, I understand everything completely. But Abrams and Reeves felt that if enough was filmed because they filmed it in LA.
Speaker 1:So they took people to New York City essentially and just filmed over a week, just some, you know, like New York City, like destruction filmed over a week just some, you know, like New York City, like destruction and stuff like that, to give it a more, you know, realistic feel to it, which I feel like it did a really good job with, because I didn't know it was filmed in LA until I had to go online to watch it, okay.
Speaker 1:So Matt Reeves explained about the monster being a baby. The secret that we had was that the monster was a baby. Having just been born, it was going through separation anxiety and had no idea where its mother was and was freaking out. It was a completely foreign place. It didn't understand a thing. That didn't understand a thing and that would be sending it into kind of infantile rage, which was very frightening. But the thing that was also frightening to me was the idea that not only was it going through an infantile rage which was very frightening but the thing that was also frightening to me was the idea that not only was it going through an infantile rage, but because it was suffering from the separation anxiety, it was spooked. It was really afraid.
Speaker 1:And as the military started shooting at it, I started thinking like if we were attacked by a swarm of bees for the first time, it wouldn't necessarily kill you, but you'd be terrified. You'd be like what are these things doing? And for me, there's nothing scarier than thinking of something that big, that spooked, Like if you're at a circus and suddenly the elephants are spooked. You don't want to be anywhere near that, You'll be crushed, and so that's just became a way to again find an approach, to give an emotional or a grounded point of view to something that was completely outrageous. I mean, a giant monster is a third, but you have to find a way to make it real. That's wild.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is a baby. So now I feel bad for it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's, yeah right.
Speaker 2:Not really.
Speaker 1:I do Things cues hell. It's not cute. What are you talking?
Speaker 2:about His little face.
Speaker 1:It's all slimy and gross.
Speaker 2:I love the Cloverfield monster and I wish I had one. Well, I guess technically I got my dog snake. You might as well act like one. Did you see the radioactive wasps? Uh-uh, some wasp made a nest on a nuclear facility or something and now they're just like radioactive wasps now.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, I'm gonna turn into a wasp man. Yeah, hell, yeah, that's awesome. Can't wait for that, shit yeah, or I'll just die of poisoning. That's awesome. Can't wait for that, shit yeah, or I'll just die of poisoning. Radiation is like this but if so, if you watch Cloverfield Paradox, we get a shot of the Cloverfield monster, but it's way bigger, nice, and I think that's supposed to be like full grown version of a.
Speaker 2:Cloverfield monster. It's like this one, but later.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this one, but bigger. There's a lot of information about the Cloverfield Monster. Like, seriously, we could just do a separate podcast just talking about the Cloverfield Monster. Go online. There's plenty of information about it. They took a lot of inspiration from underwater things. It's like, obviously, something that probably was smaller, but as it got you, you know, like probably born closer to the surface of the ocean, but I guess they're. They go down to like the bottom and they just get bigger and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:Uh, but yeah, it's essentially like a deep water monster, essentially a greenland shark like they kind of got ideas from, you know, the giant squids and octopuses and stuff that live at the very bottom of the ocean and stuff like that, which I think is the rightest thing ever.
Speaker 2:Those things are like aliens.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the entire underwater is just aliens. Right, it's wild. I love when there's all you know, just like I feel like every couple of years we get a new creature arrived on the surface of the ocean and you see it, it's like who put that down there? That's just in the ocean and I'm supposed to go to the beach every once in a while. Hey God, why? Yeah, what are you doing, dude? Not enough weird creatures at the top of the surface, you made jellyfishes. You could have stopped. Ugh, jellyfish.
Speaker 2:You ever?
Speaker 1:snung by a jellyfish yeah, yeah, me too. And then your dad tells you to pee on it, and so you pee on your leg and then you like, grow up and you realize that's not something that actually works why did I expose myself to everyone at the beach to pee on my leg?
Speaker 2:that's super weird. Dad's like fucking loser.
Speaker 1:He's over there pointing at me and laughing I just made you say hey, you see how small that. He's over there pointing at me and laughing with the crowd I just made you.
Speaker 2:Hey, you see how small that kid's penis is. Look at his tiny dick.
Speaker 1:He's like go on.
Speaker 2:Loser. It's like dad is this cold water.
Speaker 1:I'm eight. How big do you?
Speaker 2:want it to be.
Speaker 1:Oh God, all right. Well, that's a way to end the notes section. No-transcript. Probably run away real hard, Would you run on the other way? I'd be in my car. I'm like I wonder what uh New England's like at this time of year. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Get the fuck out first. I mean, they tried.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I guess, uh, you know, travis the girl, the guy that was with Beth at the party, yeah, that guy.
Speaker 2:uh, he just dipped out and he didn't even know.
Speaker 1:I guess the backstory is that he didn't even know there was a monster attacking New York until he got home.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, damn Lucky for Travis.
Speaker 2:Good thing she was a little bit clingy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, get away from that. Yeah, oh, dude, could you just imagine turning on the news and then it's like hey, there's a giant monster attacking the world.
Speaker 1:It's like shaking your house and you're watching the TV Like wow, it's like, thank goodness none of these movies ever take place, you know, in like small town, tennessee. Yeah, dude, it'd be pretty easy because we'd be like, oh, there it is, there's no giant buildings blocking it. All right, I'll go that way. And it's weird, you know, every time I watch one of these monster movies, I'm like why can't they just kill it? Why is it that tough? Yeah, why are they so tough? Why are they always impossible?
Speaker 2:to shoot, is he like super squishy.
Speaker 1:I mean, I guess it's if you think about, like you know, shooting a, I don't know.
Speaker 2:But they dropped some pretty big-ass bombs on it, a bunch of them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you would think that at least bombs would take it out. But I get it. It's a movie and this monster movie, it's just not supposed to die. I guess it just has like concrete skin on, though It'd have to have like steel beams for skin, essentially, I guess yeah, I don't know Very thick hide, yeah, oof hide, yeah. Oh, you know, after they kill it they can be like we should see how it tastes, just in case there's any more down there. That's right, because then we can find them and just eat them, just overfish the shit out of them. Yeah, that's what we do, that's at least what japan would do, like, oh, not just whales, let's also do cloverfield monsters.
Speaker 2:That sounds so gross.
Speaker 1:I mean it's nasty oh, that, I mean it's supposed to be from what I've heard because they're just filled with mercury. They're like one of the worst like seafood options you could have, just because they're just contaminated with mercury.
Speaker 2:It gives you like big, big feature.
Speaker 1:Like it like blows up your head. Fuck yeah, man, like not explodes your head, but just like it makes your head bigger. That's awesome, you ever seen someone smarter yeah. Yeah, so that's also smarter.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, so that's also what we're talking about.
Speaker 1:All right, man, I think we should just get into the movie, right? Yeah, I feel like if I'm, I'll just keep rambling about things I remember from my childhood. This was just a very big movie, Like. I remember all the hype about it, yeah, and it just awesome. It really like took over my life for a while because we had to wait like eight months before the movie came out. So that's eight months of me just being like when will we get more information about this crazy trailer?
Speaker 1:I'm pretty sure I saw this in theater. Oh, yeah, I did. It was actually a great theater experience until the end and I knew that there was going to be something at the end. And you know, we get all the way through the dope score that they have and then you just get this thing that sounds like it says help us or save us, but really it's. If you play it backwards because you know JJ's like I can't make it easy on them it says it's still alive, but when I watched it in theater, as soon as they're about to talk, a, as soon as they're about to talk, a guy farts really loud, and then I remember the guy being like well, there was a guy like a few rows behind him was like so glad I waited this whole time just to hear the fart instead of what was actually playing and I was like.
Speaker 1:So then I had to go home it's been 40 minutes trying to figure out what it said, because my dial-up internet oh, that's hard, all right. So before we hop into the plot, uh, we just want to remind you that we have a new category. It's called what's the point of this movie?
Speaker 1:it's where after we go through the plot and stuff, we're gonna discuss the point of the movie and we'd love to hear what you think the point of the movie is of Cloverfield. I think it's probably just monster attack, get cool, but we'll see what happens. But you can leave us an email saying what you think. The point is that we recommend at mailbag, we recommend mailbag at gmailcom, or the top of our description there's a link you can click and you can just text us from your phone.
Speaker 1:All right, so, jason, let's get into the plot of the movie. So we see that it's going to be found footage from a personal video camera recovered by the United States Defense Advanced Research Project Agency. A disclaimer text states that the footage of a case designated as Cloverfield where we get the name Cloverfield and was found in the area formerly known as Central Park RIP Central Park field, and was found in the area formerly known as central park rip central park. Uh, the video consists of segments taped the night of friday, may 22nd 2009 macaulay cullikin's down there feeding the pigeons yeah, next to keanu reeves also feeding pigeons.
Speaker 1:Um. The video consists of segments from friday, may 22nd 2009. The newer segments were taped over older video that is shown occasionally, all right. So the first video segment opens when Rob wakes up the morning of Monday, april 27th, having slept with Beth, a previously platonic friend. Maybe don't point your camera at a naked girl. He's sleeping, especially when y'all aren't even dating.
Speaker 2:Well, he promises it will never end up on the Internet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's never been a thing called revenge porn. We see that. And then like we it like cuts out and they cut and like they're throwing food at each other trying to catch in their mouth and it's like no way on this planet would they have gone, done breakfast and still not have put any clothes on at this point. So they make plans to go to Coney Island that day and then the footage cuts to May 22nd at 6.43 pm, when Rob's brother, jason and his girlfriend Lily prepare a farewell party for Rob, who will be moving to Japan. I like the intro, I like the beginning. It's so shaky, it's so crazy, it's very.
Speaker 1:I don't fucking know what to do with a camera and that's why it's very shaky and you can always tell when an actor has the camera versus when they actually have a camera operator with it. It's like here that's the actual guy doing it and you know he has no camera technique at all, because it's like yeah, I feel like a bobblehead watching.
Speaker 2:No, I think the best part of the beginning is TJ Miller just being an idiot, I know he, he's very funny.
Speaker 1:He's a canceled person, but very funny.
Speaker 2:Is he really yeah?
Speaker 1:Oh man.
Speaker 2:Everybody gets canceled.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't remember what it is, or if it still is an actual thing, or if it just.
Speaker 2:He was jerking off in front of the chimps at the zoo.
Speaker 1:I don't think it was anything like.
Speaker 2:What yeah? You can get canceled for that yeah that's true, I'll do it right now.
Speaker 1:I was just like did you hear something? But yeah, tj Miller, he's kind of like he's what gets you through all the human parts, I feel like most of the time.
Speaker 2:And he's pretty good. I didn't really care much for the first like 30 minutes, yeah, Until the monster shows up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, especially after you watch it a couple times, you're just like it's fun to just. I love the soundtrack at the party. It's great they have a lot of really they have older Kings of Leon songs, which was my favorite version of Kings of Leon's.
Speaker 2:Taper.
Speaker 1:Jean girl, it's great.
Speaker 2:This sex is on fire.
Speaker 1:So they make plans, whoop. So yeah, then their friend Hud Platt uses a camera to film testimonials after Jason unloaded the task to him because Lily was like Jason film all this shit and he's like I don't want to do that at a party. Hud is an amateur video filmmaker filmmaker and the video footage he shoots is very jerky and cuts in and out very quickly. Um, but tj miller makes this kind of whole thing feel real, like I feel like he does a great job with the camera and if me, him just being like someone who does not want to do this is, but has a little fun with it but also just kind of wants to party.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it's. He works because he's like the nervous talker.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And so that's the person you kind of need. Yeah, camera. Yeah, exactly, because if it was me, I wouldn't be saying shit.
Speaker 1:I feel like Rob was never going to watch this video. He's like all right, I'm sick. Hud has a crush on a mutual friend, marlena. It's Lily's friend who's also attending the party. Hud is very awkward and weird around her. Love that. It's Lizzie Kaplan. This was my introduction to her and now I've watched. You know, I've watched more TV and movies. I'm like shit. She was kind of in everything around this era.
Speaker 2:New Girl, True Blood, a couple movies. What about TJ Miller? Was he in a lot of stuff before this? He was a stand-up comedian. At this point.
Speaker 1:I don't know when Silicon Valley came out, but I think after this movie and Silicon Valley he just started popping up in everything Deadpool and a few other comedies.
Speaker 2:He's just got a huge fro and gains a bunch of weight for Silicon Valley.
Speaker 1:That's how you get famous in Hollywood as a funny person. Jonah Hill can tell you all about it. So we had a classic awkward movie party. People like just like mouthing nothing and it's like slightly kind of dancing to no music because there's no music there. Later in the night Rob arrives for a surprise party. This is probably the biggest laugh in theaters. Whenever he comes out, he's like oh, and then he immediately walks right back out the door. I'm like that's great. Yeah, uh, I will say a lot of like the confessionals and stuff that happens at this party. It's not scripted. They there was a script, but they're like this needs to feel more natural if it's found footage. So a lot of everything tj miller's saying is not scripted. There are some beats that they have to obviously get like, especially when they stop with the camera and you see people doing something.
Speaker 2:That's usually scripted Like dialogue.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but yeah, I feel like that rock going in and going back out. I'm like that feels very, that doesn't feel scripted, that feels like a legit, like that's what I would do in a surprise party.
Speaker 2:I would just freeze like.
Speaker 1:I did at my surprise party. It's like what do I do?
Speaker 2:So I would shut the shadows in the room. It's like, oh, oh, am I?
Speaker 1:Is this sleep paralysis? So, rob, he gives a speech. Rob asks Cud, is Beth coming to the party? And then she shows up with a random fucking guy named Travis Damn Travis. Boom, boom, boom. I put in my notes. Well, this video's ruined and you'll never watch it now. It's like great, the girl I like is Brought in a guy to this party. And now I'll always remember this party as this.
Speaker 2:You need to normalize showing up alone.
Speaker 1:I put in my notes because I didn't remember what's about to happen. But I put also maybe just don't bring a guy you're dating to a guy you just slept with a few weeks ago, last day, in America. There's no way it could be weird, yeah.
Speaker 2:Just like, maybe it's New.
Speaker 1:York. It's like I get you're going to the party and like y'all aren't in a relationship, but you know, you have to show up with a date.
Speaker 2:This is something I never understood. You have to show up with a date or you're a loser. I was just a loser.
Speaker 1:It's also like hey you guys obviously slept with you.
Speaker 2:He probably obviously likes you, though we'll figure out a little more information in a second and there's going to be drama.
Speaker 1:It's his last date. Just have a good time with him, and if you never see him again, you never see him again. But I don't want to put all the blame on her, because it can be shit a little. Rob soon realizes that Hud is using Rob's video camera to shoot the testimonials and that he didn't change the videotape inside, which means he taped over Rob and Beth's trips to Coney Island In Beth's farewell message. Beth is really distracted on the camera, but she says she's really going to miss him. Later Hud catches Rob and Beth fighting with each other in the hallway. Turns out Beth had not broken up with Travis and she's pregnant when she slept with him, rob over a month ago. So she was with Travis and not broken up while sleeping with Rob. Beth is still with Travis and Rob is angry about that, though Beth says Rob hasn't talked to her in three weeks. So he had sex with her and just didn't talk to her. So you know what, rob.
Speaker 1:Maybe you deserved it yeah you should have just talked to her, um. But then it's also the same thing. It's like yeah well, I was about to leave, so maybe you don't want to get too attached, but then at the same time you can't get upset with him, her at this party. So talking really fat man, this americana is like make me go a mile a minute all right. So after lily tells hud that beth and rob had sex because no one knew, because hud's the whole time like there's something weird.
Speaker 2:Something weird's happening. What's up with him Did?
Speaker 1:you hear about that, yeah, and then he gets told that, and then he immediately tells everybody at the party and they're all like we don't believe you, hud.
Speaker 1:So we see Beth is leaving. She says good luck to Japan, or good luck to Rob in Japan. She good luck to Rob in Japan. She says good luck to you, travis. It's like Rob, you're an asshole. You should have just called her the next day. Why didn't you? Yeah, so on the roof, rob hood, jason talk on the roof. They tell him he should have called her and Jason calls him a douchebag. Yes, um, and this is like an example of a classic. I blame the girl for something because I didn't do anything about it. Yeah, classic movie shit. Yeah. Suddenly, an apparent earthquake strikes and the city suffers a brief power outage. The local news reports that an oil tanker has capsized near Liberty Island and the party, very smart when it comes to earthquakes, decides to go to the roof.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I love how the news is talking about it immediately. Yeah, I know it's great and they're on top of it in New York.
Speaker 1:Yeah, kind of the most unbelievable thing, right? Because I mean I guess a tanker exploded, that's a big deal. Yeah, just knocked everybody's power out. I feel like when there's an though I will say I feel like in New York if there's an explosion, the news should probably be on it pretty fast, because everybody's immediate yeah, you're probably right Throughout this they're constantly like was that a terrorist attack?
Speaker 2:You know type of thing, yeah.
Speaker 1:Which man terrifying right God.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'd be scared as hell.
Speaker 1:I would also probably go to the roof, the buildings falling and stuff on this. When I was watching it, I was just like now that I'm older, I'm like fuck, fuck, 11 dude, they really is really effective. So there they see a giant explosion and debris flying everywhere and they run to the street.
Speaker 1:It's coming straight from the buildings so this is the shit that you saw in the trailer for the Transformers. This is it. You see that and you see them run on the street and the Statue of Liberty head and they come in, optimus Prime comes out and fights them. Autobots roll out Autobots and then you see the monster pick him up, eat him in one bite because they're tiny compared to the monster.
Speaker 2:No way he'll pull out his stupid sword and then Bumblebee's like let's get ready to rumble.
Speaker 1:I don't know whatever it's on the radio or TV, I don't know. I'm not the biggest Transformer fan. I like that first movie, but and the third movie, but that's it. So when the party goers leave the building, they see a head of statue of liberty crash into the street with several stunning scratch and bite marks. Fucking amazing. That was awesome, right? It's just like that's the shit you put in the trailer.
Speaker 2:It's all you need. You don't need any more trailers. The monster's out there in the bay or whatever, like his baseball cap on no, I like.
Speaker 1:Here's what I think it is. I think like the monster gets behind the Statue of Liberty and puts his head right where the head was, and then you got the mama.
Speaker 2:Cloverfield taking a picture that's the sequel.
Speaker 1:Let's spoof this shit that's really good alright, Poof this shit. That's really good. It's got a shirt that says I love New York.
Speaker 2:It's just like a classic tourist Nice. Hell yeah.
Speaker 1:So yeah, hud records what appears to be a hand of a large creature. Several blocks away, passing by another building, a glimpse of a monster is shown that causes the Woolworth building to collapse. The gang heads into a bodega to escape the chaos. Hood tells Rob that it's alive. Bum, bum, bum.
Speaker 2:It's alive.
Speaker 1:Ugh amazing, so fun. And what's the deal with?
Speaker 2:the what's the deal? What's the deal with that newspaper box with the 0% on it? Huh, oh, I don't know, it's a theme, like in the very beginning, when it's before the movie opens. There's like the words on the screen and it says something about 0%, and then there's 0% graffitied onto that mailbox. It's like a newspaper stand.
Speaker 1:I know exactly what you're talking about. Holy shit, jason I. It's like a newspaper stand. I know exactly what you're talking about. Holy shit, jason, I, don't, don't, no, what's the deal?
Speaker 2:What's the deal with all those percentages?
Speaker 1:Who are these percentages? I feel like you could easily probably do a podcast bingo with us. It's when will Jesse bring up Seinfeld? When will he do a zero? When will he say a? When will he say bum, bum, bum? What TV show will he bring up? A TV show he's watching?
Speaker 2:When will Jason make you feel uncomfortable?
Speaker 1:When will Jesse make? Or when will Jason make Jesse go what? And obviously a horse thing blowing up. Yeah, oh man, there there was a horse. Too bad it didn't get squished, no, it was just like. I guess I don't have humans, I now I just have this buggy gotta make a living.
Speaker 2:Great shot, though, and then it trots away.
Speaker 1:You want to go right at my horse and buggy? All right. Well, we got. I'm trotting here. Yeah, oh my God, that fucking got me, dude. All right. So now that we're laughing, let's talk about terrible things. So, jason, he goes outside Ooh, that's your name Goes outside and the gang goes with him. Everyone is covered in ash. Very 9-11.
Speaker 2:Yeah, with all the smoke blowing down the street.
Speaker 1:It's very effective, Very effective. There's also a lot of weird extra stuff going on. In the background there's one bigger guy who's just walking. Then all of a sudden he starts scooting away. I'm like what's that guy doing?
Speaker 2:He didn't want his picture taken. He's just like I don't want to be in this movie. It's like when you walk in front of someone taking a picture, You're like shit, get out of the way.
Speaker 1:He's like he was just actually in New York. It's like what the hell's actually happening. So the group decides to exit Manhattan via the Brooklyn Bridge. While walking to the bridge, we see all the destruction looks great. It's setting up like the full monster reveal.
Speaker 2:so well I guess I've never been to New York, but I guess you have to go out on a bridge to get off of it, because it's an island.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's like 27 bridges that like lead to Manhattan. They made a movie called 27.
Speaker 2:Bridges and they had to shut down all 27 bridges.
Speaker 1:OK, then they could have traveled through the Lincoln Tunnel.
Speaker 2:I specifically remember the trailer to that movie, like Will Ferrell.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they could have traveled through the Lincoln Tunnel. I specifically remember the trailer to that movie. Like Will Ferrell, yeah and get a Tesla tunnel and send you right out of there.
Speaker 2:Oh man.
Speaker 1:One person at a time. Yeah, so they finally make it to the bridge. While walking on the bridge they see the Statue of Liberty and a ship destroyed. Then Rob gets a call from Beth saying she can't move.
Speaker 2:I wonder why Suddenly, a gigantic tail destroys the Brooklyn.
Speaker 1:Bridge and Jason Poor Jason, let the bell toll.
Speaker 2:Another angel got its wings.
Speaker 1:The rest of the group escape the bridge. With the chaos in the street and screaming hurt all around, they try to console Lily, very upset that jason died, um boy. So starting from here, starting from here every five seconds is rob rob yeah, and every five minutes rob is an asshole because everybody's like oh my god, someone died. Rob's like I got I'm gonna walk away.
Speaker 1:I really want to get laid guys. I really gotta go somewhere. Um, but the like, the chaos in the streets and the screaming is so good. In the part where, especially because I was, you know, I was writing, typing my notes, I wasn't looking at the screen during this part. Then I was just like, and it's just, I keep thinking of how the movie is like, you know, probably kind of how, like, 9-11 was right in the street.
Speaker 1:Like I mean think, if you like couldn't see in front of you because there's smoke and you just, you just see people running, you can't really pay attention. You just hear the screaming. It's like dazed people, just like shambling about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man.
Speaker 1:It's fucking crazy, love it, yeah. It's fucking crazy, love it, yeah. So On the street they see looting Rob's phone is dead and he goes to get a new battery. There they see a news report show that the National Guard's 42nd Infantry Division attacking the monster and smaller parasite creatures, falling off its body and attacking people. News reports are great, so fucking cool. It's where we finally get to see the monster for the first time. Really, oh yeah. And it's just like great, like over the head shots of it. It's like how you do it through the found footage version of it and then you just have everybody gets quiet while looting, like, oh wait, maybe, maybe this toaster isn't worth it, maybe I should be getting out of here.
Speaker 2:Man, it was a real trip back to the aughts, wasn't it? You got all those big ass TVs yeah.
Speaker 1:And you know like people have probably stole the TV and it was like running in the military, it's like all right, we're evacuating. You just got people with giant.
Speaker 2:TVs after looting.
Speaker 1:It's like that's really what you're going to bring. Yeah, uh, just this part is so great and rob's not paying attention at all. Then rob gets a new battery, listens to phone message from beth saying she is trapped in her apartment, unable to move um, then the whole gang, they start going against getting railed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, travis, no, no, because of the rebar in my chest, it's like rob gets there.
Speaker 1:It's like is this what you're into? Is this this why you didn't leave Travis?
Speaker 2:I'll be over there as quick as I can, yeah.
Speaker 1:I will never leave, so Rob's like I'm going to get her. The other three are like are we sure about that? And we see like on the other side of the street, like a whole crowd just like walking single file line, like let's go army, and walking single file line like let's go army, um, and so they're all going to venture down to midtown, manhattan, to rescue beth. Marlena doesn't want to go, but she does anyways, and it's just like. Marlena, are you really that invested in this group of people? You seem like you're only there for lily and she didn't talk to you at the party.
Speaker 1:I'd have been like peace, bye, this isn't worth it to me, because I don't know beth and I only know one of you other people and I would just try to get, I guess even if there's a giant monster, you still don't want to walk around alone, because you'll yeah, like, look, I would do this for my wife, sure, Obviously, but this guy just was friends with this girl and had sex with her once, and now he's like I am the hero I get. We need a plot of the movie, but obviously this is ridiculous.
Speaker 1:It's like Rob. What are you going to do?
Speaker 2:I mean, I guess he makes it there and he gets her For love.
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't know. I mean I get it. I would probably do the same thing.
Speaker 2:Get that, yeah god it's like this is just actually the whole.
Speaker 1:This is what her orgasms do it just destroys the whole city.
Speaker 2:That's all you can say.
Speaker 1:Tremors um, yeah, so they're all gonna get it. The monster is shown to be moving between the buildings in midtown Manhattan, causing widespread damage. They find themselves in a battle between the creature and the military and then run into the subway station Such a good part of the movie where you know they're like ducked down.
Speaker 1:They see all the cars driving, missiles flying over their heads, flying over it, and then you see the monster like stepping on the same street as them, and then HUD is on the other side, like just like yelling Rob, like what are y'all doing over there? And then they're like what are y'all doing over there? And they're like just can't see anything. But they're just pointing and they're like we're going to go to the tunnels Because that's where you should get Underground, under the monster. Yeah, that's smart, yeah, and so, yeah. So then they go under the subway station. It's just a really great scene.
Speaker 2:Then Rob gets a phone call and cries For the life of me. I really thought there was going to be like a subway train on fire going through the tunnels. That'd be sick. I don't know why. Maybe I saw it somewhere else.
Speaker 1:So Lily consoles him, but like she lost her boyfriend that was talking about potentially eventually getting married and Rob hasn't really cared at all about what Lily's going through. And then Lily's like oh, I'm so sorry that this one person you had sex with one time is in trouble, but also like your brother died and that was like probably going to be my husband. So maybe we should talk about all that and then Hud and Marlena talk. He's kind of and he tries to comfort her.
Speaker 2:He kind of sucks. He's talking to Marlena, yeah, but he's kind of and he tries to kind of sucks he's talking to Marlena. Yeah, he's really bad. You could have left. Yeah, you made the decision. Why did you do this?
Speaker 1:But he doesn't know how to talk. But then there's also this like don't remind me, yeah, but he does kind of like say something, kind of even gives him a look like oh, thanks. So Rob convinces the group to follow the tunnel tracks to reach a station near Beth's apartment inside the tunnels, while navigating using the flashlight from the camera. They talk about the monster, but thanks, it came from the sea.
Speaker 2:Shouldn't the flashlight be in front of the people?
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, but you're trying to film everybody, I know, because they probably can't see like a couple feet in front of them and he's.
Speaker 2:I guess he's at least got 10 feet visibility. He is trying to capture them too yeah, because there's this whole.
Speaker 1:It's like are you filming this? Yeah, people are gonna want to know something that in every single found footage film. They have to say why they're filming.
Speaker 2:And do you think they brought up Superman because of TJ Miller? What do you mean? Because he's like, haven't you heard of Superman? Like they're trying to talk about where they came from.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and JJ loves Superman. But it's also one of those things where now it's like everybody's heard of Superman. No, me and my wife we've been watching the new season of Big Brother and there's somebody on there who does not know, who knows what Superman is, but like knows nothing about him, and it's like, oh people, people still live in this world. I don't know.
Speaker 2:I never really read comics or nothing, but I still know a couple of things about Superman, yeah.
Speaker 1:So it's great I love walking through the tunnel. This is very effective and scary scene. Oh, we're about to get to like probably my favorite part of the movie, the icky rat. So, um, they see a bunch of rats running away, and it's never a good thing when you see a bunch of rats running in one direction.
Speaker 2:That would have been cool if they would have like a million more, like a flood of rats, yeah.
Speaker 1:Um, and then they hear some noises but can't see anything. So Hud turns on the night vision and we get this dope-ass shot of the parasites on the top of the ceiling. It's such a good shot, it's so effective. The parasites are the scariest thing in the movie yeah, clover, they called the Cloverfield monster Clover, clovey Cute as hell and I love them. These parasites, holy shit, get them away from me. They're too small. The big thing cool. And they're so bitey. The small thing, eee. They're just like big spiders, they're on your level.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they are like spiders, they're crab spiders, crab bird spiders, tremors Like the cave spiders yeah.
Speaker 1:Those things are so, or maybe it's cave crickets that I'm thinking of, I don't know. I don't know if I'm looking all of it up. So, while saving HUD, marlena is yeah, so they're all getting attacked. And while saving HUD, marlena is bitten by one of the creatures. That's a very gruesome bite. Yeah, they hold up in like a maintenance room type rest area and drink some water. Hud thanks Marlena for saving him. It's kind of a sweet little moment between, like, hud and marlena. There's a her oozing wounds. Yeah, he's acting like a normal human being for a second, yeah, instead of a weird guy.
Speaker 1:Um I'm gonna keep this camera, yeah in your face and then we get the line of like, wow, we gotta get out of here somehow, and it's like I'm pretty sure you probably should stay there. It seems to be the safest spot you've been in this whole time yeah, you got all the mountain dew you could ever.
Speaker 2:Yeah you have water.
Speaker 1:Just wait till the you're all the giant bombs and then you can finally go back out. Um, but yeah, so they decide this is where we get the line that I said at the beginning of the movie, where it's like so we either go uh the tunnel, die above and die, or stay here and die. It's like yep, that's pretty much it. So the four, they decide to exit the subway and enter an underground mall area, which I guess is just a thing in New York. But Marlena begins to feel unwell. She's like I don't feel good. I feel like I'm about to get pregnant, really fast and explode.
Speaker 2:My tummy's going to explode.
Speaker 1:So they are found by soldiers and luckily they are taken immediately into like a military command center base where the soldiers tell the group that they have not yet identified the monster's origins and whatever it is, and whatever it is, it's winning. I love it. It's like, hey great, you guys just happened to take the exit to where there's a military medical base I like how they're.
Speaker 2:You know they're rolling in the wounded soldiers and there's that one, and his whole belly is missing it's been blown out.
Speaker 1:That's what happened to her. Yeah, because they're like, oh, it's another bite, and hud's like I don't look at that, I'm sure there's nothing to worry about. Um, and we learned that the military is about to leave. Then Marlena begins bleeding from her eyes and she is forcefully taken to a field hospital and explodes. That was rad.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah.
Speaker 1:Called it the explosion of blood. Yeah, and you can see like the shadow of her stomach. That was great Wild man. It's just getting harder to give birth these days. We're going to hang to C wild man. It's just getting harder to give birth these days. We're gonna need to see that. Yeah. So rob, still intending on saving beth per se, is one of the military commanders to let them go. He is informed when the last evacuation helicopter would depart before the military executes its hammer down protocol which will destroy man destroy.
Speaker 1:Manhattan in its entirety in order to kill the monster.
Speaker 2:The hammer time protocol. The hammer time protocol Get MC Hammer. We need a stat.
Speaker 1:Challenge this monster to a dance battle. It's like I know Obama's not president yet, but he's like MC Hammer.
Speaker 2:We need you.
Speaker 1:We need you.
Speaker 2:He's got the red phone that the president calls when he's like mc hammer oh, we need you, we need you. He's got like the red phone that the president calls when he needs him yeah so puts on his shades, yeah oh yeah, I guess I don't have, I don't have a bush impersonation?
Speaker 1:I couldn't do it. Strategery, the teacher impersonation, so I couldn't do it. Strategery, strategery, mc Hammer. No, I can't do it. I'd do a better Obama than that, even though I should have worked on my Obama before I did it.
Speaker 2:Oh, so the last helicopter will leave Manhattan at 0600 the next day. Maybe he'll stay in one of my hotels.
Speaker 1:Here's the thing. I love that that you know. This one military guy is like alright, I'll specifically deal with these people, even though I'm sure a thousand people have come up to him. I have somebody that's missing, and this guy's just like. I've had this conversation a thousand times today.
Speaker 2:What if they were like shit?
Speaker 1:they found us, yeah um, this movie does a great job showing the military working in action. Right, it's great. I'm like hell, yeah, we got it under control. How'd they get here so fast? Yeah, so while exiting the military base, hud breaks down over the loss of Marlena. Lily stops and consoles him and cries with him. Selfish ass. Rob tries to leave them again. He's like guys, fuck your feelings, I don't have time.
Speaker 1:I know, I also know these people and care about them, but I don't care about them. Guys, I had sex with this girl dude. Come on, this is more important than the feelings you guys have. So, though, it is a ticking clock, so they have to hurry the surviving group travel to Beth's apartment. Feeling to just.
Speaker 2:He's like what does it leave? Zero, six hundred. What time is that? Yeah, to Beth's apartment building to.
Speaker 1:He's like what does it leave? 0600, what time is that? Yeah, it's 6 o'clock. Oh, I knew that so, yeah, they get to Beth's building and discover it's leaning on a neighboring skyscraper.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah that is bad whenever you see them check the elevators and they don't work is that when? You decide to turn around and say all right. You leave her a voicemail Like sorry, elevator's broken, I say Rob's like he gets up 10 stories like what, how high is it 30?
Speaker 1:I don't know, man, we'll have to go 20 more feet, so horny.
Speaker 2:And then I'll have to go back down.
Speaker 1:I won't even be able to have sex tonight. So but here's what I love. I love that Slowly get there and HUD's like well, I guess we could go up the one that's standing and then cross over the roof and they're like that's a great idea.
Speaker 1:He's like shit, nevermind, I was just kidding. I was just kidding that wouldn't work. So they go up to the buildings, they he's. Some for some reason thinks that he should get in an elevator and go up, even though there's a giant monster attacking. Obviously, take the stairs, I mean, it would have been faster. It would have been faster, but then you're stuck in an elevator, if something happens, that's true.
Speaker 1:But then they get to the top floor and they're going to cross over to the rooftop and then the group finds Beth fucking impelled on exposed metal construction rebar, rebar sucks ass. I put my notes like ha ha ha, she's dead. I almost had a piece of rebar go through my foot. Dude, I almost landed on rebar one time, like playing football into my foot.
Speaker 2:But it didn't go through it, it just went like most of the way through.
Speaker 1:Yowch bro, I was playing like I was playing tackle football with two of my friends in high school and we went to this place and they had like rebars because they're going to build something but we're using that. All right, once you pass that, that's a touchdown. And so I went to catch the ball and then I was stumbling and I turn around, I'm like like that would went straight through my stomach and I was able to like kind of flop over the left and I was like you have been fucked up.
Speaker 1:I said I'm done no more footballs.
Speaker 2:The pile of broken glass. That's a 10 yard line. Yeah, no, I was so drunk and I jumped out of the pool to get a volleyball yeah, landed on it. Didn't even know I was hurt and got back in the pool.
Speaker 1:And then and got back in the pool, and then there's like this cloud of blood all around me. It's just like then, all of a sudden, you, I think I'm hurt, don't know. Hey, jason, did you get in the pool with our shark? What?
Speaker 2:Jaws, so yeah.
Speaker 1:I guess she just got lucky that it didn't hit her heart and no main organs. Yeah, that's very lucky. Hit her heart and no main organs? Yeah, that's very lucky. Um, super. I remember reading about people being like how the hell is she running around? I was like she saw a giant monster and everything kicked in. Yeah, so they free her by lifting her up.
Speaker 1:Hella brutal bro that's one of the hardest parts of the whole movie to watch, because you can hear, but then you also have her panicking. It's her panicking. Then I'm like I don't know, just like cut it off, yeah, but it's like it's worse if you drop her.
Speaker 2:See if, oh, dude, like they pick her up and they're like, oh slippery, it's like oh, one more time don't worry that one got my lung.
Speaker 1:Guys. How about somebody just hit me over the head with a block or something? See if clover's got anything, any medicine on him.
Speaker 2:He's like hey guys, what you doing?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so then they see the monster heading for him. It's a great shot of like the monster's, like you fucking you're not having sex on my watch. Jesus sit here, me here, to stop this Ultimate cock blocker. But I love that Beth says what is that? It's just a terrible thing so they head off they're navigating the rooftops and we get great shots of jess jets bombing the monster.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's so flying overhead, yeah, and it's just like the way like the camera's moving.
Speaker 1:It's obviously an actual camera operator at this point, because they're getting the shots perfectly um those things are shockingly loud. Yeah, in real life, yeah oh, I mean they, because you know they usually go over stadiums during football games. They're so loud and it's like the best part of going to a live football game. It makes your heart race. Yeah, uh, it's like that makes me feel like, yeah, this is fucking america, baby football.
Speaker 1:Bomb the other team, let's replay the national anthem. So yeah, they head off and are navigating the rooftops and get the shots of the jets bombing the monster Inside the building. They run into a parasite.
Speaker 2:What's that? Another terrible thing. Yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 1:And then Rob axes it.
Speaker 2:It's like all right, Rob, we're playing Hero Time. Yeah, and then Rob axes it. It's like all right, Rob, we're playing Hero Time yeah.
Speaker 1:So they make their way to the evacuation site at the Grand Central Terminal, where they encounter the creature again. You got more shots of the bombing tank getting stepped on it's all amazing Squish Seriously. Like the end stuff with the monster and this.
Speaker 2:You think that the tank would have just been like flattened, or do you think it would have gone like into the ground and not been completely flattened? I think it just been.
Speaker 1:I think it probably would have erupted a little bit out of his feet. You know, like I don't know, if you watch the hydraulic press. Yes, I do they always kind of like expand around it, usually no matter what it is, or it explodes.
Speaker 2:Maybe it's like stuck in his foot. He like lifts up his foot. He's like aww, it's like stepping on a Lego for him, ow.
Speaker 1:Ow, I'm not even old enough to play with Legos yet it's got the. So Lily is first rushed into a departing Marine Corps helicopter to escape, before the terminal is destroyed. Moments later, rob, beth and Hood are taken away in a second helicopter and witness the creature being bombed. It's so cool, just like the top down view of it. It's like all the city's lights are gone at this point and you see the stealth bomber and then like, you really like. And then you see the monster every time the explosions light it up and you just hear him going stop, I don't know how to get home. And then, yeah, the stealth bomber comes up.
Speaker 2:It's so cool.
Speaker 1:So fun and cool.
Speaker 2:You think it's dead.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and the creature falls into the smoke. They're like, yeah, we did it. Then, and the creature falls into the smoke and they're like, yeah, we did it. But then it lunges out of the smoke and smacks the helicopter. If I was them I'd be like, hey, pilot other way higher, can we like?
Speaker 2:you saw what was happening why are you still this close? He's looking at it too, like, oh shit, let's go to fuck.
Speaker 1:It's like I forgot, I'm not in a movie, Just really wanted this guy to get this shot. I mean, it's pretty amazing. Yeah, so yeah. And then it lunges out of the smoke and hits the second helicopter, causing it to crash in Central Park, killing all the occupants except Rob, Beth and Hood. What luck. 15 minutes before the hammered down protocol is to commence, the trio regain consciousness and attempt to flee and like they're picking up HUD. And then you kind of hear like boom, boom, boom. Then HUD stands up and then the other two turn around like hey, there's a giant monster here. It's like y'all didn't see it before. What's the?
Speaker 2:deal. How sneaky is this monster? Yeah, because they're not on the main island anymore.
Speaker 1:They're in the middle of Central Park. It's like how far away was this monster?
Speaker 2:Did it like jump? I thought that they flew off the island to another place.
Speaker 1:No, no, they just like they barely. They're still in Manhattan. No, they didn't go anywhere. Yeah, they didn't. They lifted up and like made it maybe a mile or two To and like made it maybe a mile or two To.
Speaker 2:Me it kind of looked like the monster swam across the water to get to them?
Speaker 1:No, I think it just. It just somehow snuck up on them you know it really hates these guys. It's like I upgraded my sneak level. It's like when you play video games and you're like crouched down, walking straight into someone and they're looking right at you. It's like I'm glad I upgraded my sneak. So yeah, hurd turns back to retrieve the camera when the creature suddenly appears and eats part of him yeah, he bites him in half, doesn't?
Speaker 1:he yeah, cause you see, you see like his feet sticking out of his leg and he just falls and it's like toughest camera you've ever seen in your life and they check on him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Like he hasn't just gotten bit in half. It's just like Hud, are you okay? Come on, Even if he was alive, it's like.
Speaker 1:I can't walk.
Speaker 2:Kill me please Like.
Speaker 1:You know how we talked about killing Beth with a cinder block, because you know we dropped her again. Well, based on the, it'd be better if Hud like falls, he's like half a body, he's like you get back here, cloverfield monster, I can still take you.
Speaker 2:He's crawling after him.
Speaker 1:I've gotta get him hey, rob, rob, come back yeah, rob's like ah, we got like five minutes and I really wanted to have sex with her again.
Speaker 2:I was the only girl in New York now, the only person I cared about.
Speaker 1:so the only girl in New York, now the only person I cared about. So Rob and Beth grab the camera but like why? And take shelter under an arch. As sirens blare and the bombing starts, rob and Beth each provide their last testimony of the day's events. The bridge begins to crumble and the camera is knocked out of Rob's hand and buried beneath the rubble. Rob and Beth proclaim their love for each other just as the bomb explodes, the camera freezing up before the footage cuts.
Speaker 2:So they're dead, though, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're definitely dead. They're pretty much dead. Yeah, I don't think they I mean they probably will never get found.
Speaker 2:On the news when they were listening to the radio or whatever they said. If you can hear the s, which means they were definitely in the blast and like is it a nuclear weapon? Is it just like a big old hammer?
Speaker 1:down, whatever that means. I think they were just like a whole bunch of stealth bombers. The whole world starts to shake and then, like as Manhattan's like blowing up his like parachute pants, lift him up to the sky, jesus. Take me home pants. So the film ends with the final of Rob and Beth's trips to Coney Island on April 27, 2009. Unseen by them, an incredible, undiscernible object falls from the sky into the ocean just before the camera cuts out. Beth states I had a good day. Aww.
Speaker 2:After the credits a voice can be heard saying help us.
Speaker 1:But when played in reverse, it says it's still alive damn dun, dun dun. That's awesome so, um, I feel like the point of the movie is just to give us a monster movie that looks cool, but the other? Point is, I guess, for the characters like true love finds a way, I don't know, there's really not much of a point of this except to have fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is just super fun, kind of awesome.
Speaker 1:Yeah, great idea, man, just like a great idea for a monster movie. It's very creative, jj Abrams and my crew, because Drew Goddard, who he also he was co-director but actually the main director of Cabin in the Woods that we did. He also was the showrunner of the first five episodes of Daredevil Sweet. Those are the best ones.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And he wrote the Martian, the Matt Damon movie, oh shit. So he ended up having a very successful career. And then Matt Reeves. Martian was okay, it's just like all the smartest people, like up and coming people of Hollywood, just made a great little movie and JJ Abrams obviously always has great ideas. He just has a hard time following through with everything Finishing up on his movies, but yeah, so falling through with everything, finishing up on those movies.
Speaker 1:But yeah, so what do you got? So our next category the good, the bad, the ugly, the fine it's where we discuss the good of the film Something we liked, a scene, a character, something. The bad, something we didn't like A scene, a character, something. And then we got the ugly, where we talk about something that didn't age.
Speaker 2:Well, the fine Something that did age well. What do you got? As the good Monsters, yes, and the mystery.
Speaker 1:Like the yeah, Like what is this? Why is? This it's like we don't because it's found footage. It just it gave us all the. It gave us no answers. Yes, like we just had to put it together, I put the ARG of this movie. What does that mean?
Speaker 1:Alternate reality, gaming type thing you know, like the the the trailer, the websites and all that was so fun and it really sucked me into this movie and it's a movie that like is a big part of my life. Even though it's just like a good, like fun movie it's not like a great, amazing movie, but like it just holds a special place in my heart and that's why I wanted to do it for the podcast. Also, the shots of the creature and the creature design. I think it's a. It's tough with creatures because when you see them, it's a. You have this expectation of them always being really it's gotta be really cool and crazy and awesome. You want to be like, yeah, right, and the ultimate creatures are like King Kong and Godzilla and they just look so rad. So I can see it probably being very hard for them to create like a cool creature. And when I first saw it I was like this is very strange. I thought it was a lot kind of bat-like when I first watched it and the more I saw it.
Speaker 1:It's like very like watery bat-tick kind of creature. It's great.
Speaker 2:What's up with his belly arms? Are they for hugs? What do they do with them?
Speaker 1:That's when he J-O's, that's foreplay arms, that's all those arms are for they're very sensual lovers, these Cloverfield monsters. Alright, what do you got the bad I got a little motion sickness sometimes. Yeah, I put that in the ugly. I was like this could be a very nauseous kind of movie for people, a lot of people. That's the biggest thing that when I talk about Cloverfield, people are like I couldn't, I can't watch it and I'm like try harder. Yeah.
Speaker 2:It was good enough to suffer for it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's just all worth it. Those shots of the creatures I put the bad as usual monster movie at. Want More Monster and monster movies. Don't give you enough monsters. Yeah, they didn't really follow through with that.
Speaker 1:It's just not really the point of it. You know, can't have these people constantly. I want to go film this thing. So for the ugly I put could make people nauseous. Also, man, they had such a great idea for like a franchise and they just they couldn't, I don't know, it's like, it's like they're almost lazy about it. Well, it seems to me, let's not create a, let's not create an idea for it, let's just keep reading scripts and then be like oh, I want to make this movie, but how are we going to? How are we going to like, how are we going to clover fire? Well, it's like, how are we going?
Speaker 2:to how are we going to like, how are we going to Cloverfy it?
Speaker 1:Well, it's like how are we going to market this? Oh, let's just put Cloverfield in the title and then put some aliens at the end. Oh yeah, that sucks. And the same way that Cloverfield Paradox. It was just a space movie with some weird trippy like science stuff, and then they shoehorn some scenes on Earth with a monster attacking, and it's what the fuck are we doing? It's just kind of dumb.
Speaker 2:So are they trying with the franchise that I guess that they just throw the scripts in the Cloverfield bin.
Speaker 1:It seems like they read a script and they're like, oh, this is a good movie, but like we're never going to get it made because it's franchise time, like this was. You know, everything had to be a franchise at this point. It's the only thing that made money, and so I think they're just like all right, well, I had cloverfield to it but with the storyline, because I haven't seen paradox.
Speaker 2:But with the second one it kind of had this idea where you couldn't even go outside anymore because it was yeah, it was toxic or something john goodman's character said there's been an attack and people could die out there if you go out there, but it's just an alien invasion.
Speaker 1:But it was supposed to be like oh, we don't know if the air is breathable and stuff, but spoiler, by the way, for all of 10 cloverfield lane. Sorry, I'm assuming if you're listening to cloverfield, you probably watched the second one whoops, um, but yeah, and then, uh, spoiler, spoiler, spoiler, ending spoiler, sorry we already spoiled it earlier.
Speaker 1:But then she gets outside and there's nothing wrong with the air, but then she sees a UFO and it's like fuck, and then it attacks her. Here's the thing when the movie came out they constantly talked about they had so many ideas for a sequel and they just never did any Because they were going to keep it found footage and be like we could make just this one attack. We could make like 15 sequels off of it just from other people filming it from their perspective. That's true.
Speaker 1:Or attacking, or maybe there's more monsters waking up around the world, yeah, and I think they were just like maybe because people were like, oh, it's too nauseating, but it's like you could follow the military, you could have like a news reporter, you could just follow them. It's like Wreck or Quarantine the movie where it's like it's just someone doing a news report about firefighters and they get stuck in, they get quarantined into a building and there's zombies or whatever. Right, very cool. But they just never did it. And I know that, like all the main creators became very successful and got put on like so many projects. And JJ got Star Wars, I'm assuming all that got in the way of everything, yeah, and now they're just like all right, jj is co-producing and the story is left up to these random people. Now, and I think that's why now, a decade later or 15 years later, it's like we promise we're doing one, like is it too late? I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't think so.
Speaker 1:I mean it's been long enough. Obviously I want it All right, so for the fine I put 10. Cloverfield Lane is kind of a masterpiece, except for the part that she won in Cloverfield. It's just a great thriller, like claustrophobic thriller.
Speaker 2:And the marketing. It's one of my favorite John Goodman roles. Yeah, he's ever done.
Speaker 1:When the Academy Awards came out I was so fucking pissed he did not win it. He that's like his best acting he's ever done. He was so scary, it was terrifying. What do you got for the fine?
Speaker 2:Uh, I don't know, I just monster, let's just say monsters.
Speaker 1:Monster, that's fine, it's good monster, equal scary good.
Speaker 2:Oh monster cool I don't know um, I mean monster being cool is good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, monster being cool, cool, all right. So we're gonna hit up our next category. It's double feature. It's where we recommend to go a movie to go alongside this movie. Come up with anything.
Speaker 2:I really I've never seen Pacific Rim. You've never seen Pacific Rim, I can let you borrow it.
Speaker 1:I almost thought that that's the next movie we should do Hell yeah. So I got this movie. I recommend a movie called Monsters. It was just really fun, it's you know, we had Hastings back in the day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then I went there and I used to just buy random fucking movies and I saw this movie called Monsters and I was like, oh, that's got Scoot McNary in it. I like that actor. It's a monster movie and I kind of heard it was like a cool little movie. So I bought it and then I watched it and it's directed by Gareth Edwards, who did Godzilla, the remake, godzilla Nice that just recently came out. He also did Rogue One until he was kicked off for directing the creator, and then he did the most recent Jurassic Park. That also was a failure.
Speaker 2:Can't wait to see it.
Speaker 1:He got shoved into just indie filmmaker who made a great low budget sci-fi monster movie got put into Hollywood's machine way too fast and probably should have ground to powder, yeah he should have probably made a couple other movies where he went to this whole huge budget shit, but it's a really fun movie.
Speaker 1:It's like these octopus type alien creatures. That's cool. And it's like six years after Earth has suffered an alien invasion, a cynical journalist agrees to escort a shaken American tourist through an infected zone in Mexico to the safety of the US border. There's this, oh bro. There's this shot where the two like two monsters kind of like, come up to each other and like talk to each other. But it's so beautiful the way the creatures are designed and it's just like wow, with a low budget, this guy made an amazing monster movie.
Speaker 2:I love it.
Speaker 1:It seems like some people are like too slow, but I was just like I don't know man, I like the characters. Scoot McNary, baby Scoot McNary, Scoot all over you. Yeah, if you haven't seen monsters do it, you can learn how Gareth Edwards became a thing.
Speaker 2:Cool, I'll see if it's on anything.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I just had it up. I should have saw.
Speaker 2:It's on Hulu, yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, cool yeah, it's fun, it's a. It's not too long, uh yeah. So that's our conversation on Cloverfield. I'd like to apologize to anybody, um, who just heard me talk uh very fast constantly. My wife is my wife tells me, it's like you talk so fast. Yeah, um, but yeah, sorry for that. But join us next week because we're gonna do probably one of my favorite horror movies ever. One of them. Oh, we're gonna do evil dead 2 baby we did evil dead 1 last year.
Speaker 1:Jason's never seen evil dead 2 uh, let's say evil dead 1 is the scarier version of what of evil dead. Evil dead 2 is like what if we had bigger budget and it was funnier, nice, yeah, dude, I'm actually so excited for you to watch this and talk about. You get the necronomicon. I think there's less tree rape in this one. Oh yeah, I know I guess someone, someone, they're like hey, we'll give you some more money to just redo what you just did, just less trees, less these trees are canceled less.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what is it called when you're infatuated with trees? Something to do with Arbor Day?
Speaker 1:I don't know. Join us next week for Evil Dead 2. It's gonna be a banger. And yeah, leave us some fan mail, man. You know it's all in the description. Just check out the description. We got our email, or there's a link at the top. Leave us some reviews. Fan mail man. You know it's all in the description. Just check out the description. We got our email and or there's a link at the top. Uh, leave us some reviews. We're getting some new followers. Hell yeah, baby um. So you know, if you don't follow, just press the follow button, just so I know that you're actually watching. I know we have plenty. We have quite a bit of listens. It's just it doesn't show that we have followers, but I'm like, I know people are listening Because you can kind of see locations right, not like direct locations.
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Speaker 1:yeah so I want to hear what some of the smaller podcasts. So if I see one that has like 4.8 with 50 reviews, I'm like let's fucking go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hell yeah. I do that all the time and I always review them.
Speaker 1:Used to not, but now that I have a podcast, I definitely review the podcast. But yeah, sorry, man, it's this, it's this coffee, it's. It's got me fired the fuck up. Yeah, so that's the episode. Thank you, joey Prosser, for our intro and outro. You can follow on X at Mr Joey Prosser. And well, that's it. This has been the we Recommend Podcast. I'm Jesse, I'm Jason. It's alive. It's still alive. It's alive. Bye, mc Hammer. Thank you for saving the day. Thanks for watching.
