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Evil Dead 2
In 1987, director Sam Raimi took his low-budget horror hit and transformed it into something entirely unexpected – a blood-soaked slapstick comedy that would redefine an entire genre. Evil Dead 2 isn't just a sequel; it's a reinvention that dials everything up to eleven while maintaining the manic energy that made the original a cult classic.
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Welcome to the we recommend podcast, a movie podcast where every week, we recommend a movie for you to watch and then come back here and listen to us discuss. I'm Jesse, I'm Jason. We are the things that where it shall be again, spirits of the book.
Speaker 2:We want what is yours like dead by dawn.
Speaker 1:Dead by dawn Because this week we recommend Evil Dead 2.
Speaker 2:Yeah groovy, yeah Hell yeah, he'd do his screams like.
Speaker 1:I love the little hand or the head at the end, just as a monkey.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. What is your favorite Deadite?
Speaker 1:Oh man, I love the little hand or the head at the end, this is a monkey. What is your favorite?
Speaker 2:deadite. Oh man, Honestly it's the dancing girl. The Nightmare Before Christmas, Like a little Barbie doll head on is so great.
Speaker 1:It's probably Henrietta when she goes like full demon face or the demon in the door at the end. Yeah, that one's pretty cool.
Speaker 2:I like the hand. Yeah, I love a severed hand. That's true, it's like.
Speaker 1:The best part about the Wednesday show was just the little hand oh. I haven't seen the new one, I haven't either, but it's just like the old one. Anytime, the hand popped up thing I'm like, well, I don't know, it's the hairy cousin.
Speaker 2:Give them better names that I can remember no, the names are perfect.
Speaker 1:We're off topic already, so alright, we have Evil Dead 1, a goofy horror movie. We have Evil Dead 2, even goofier horror movie. Which one did you prefer?
Speaker 2:I guess the second one. It's way more interesting to me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not scary at all versus evil dead one has a few moments where it's like this is kind of scary. This is I don't know.
Speaker 2:Buster keaton meets a cabin in a cabin in the woods movie I think the scariest part was when the the redneck guy the overalls jumped him through the door on him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like the troop, the real horror we would have in tennessee. Yeah, it's, this is just. This. Is them getting a budget and just being like let's go ham on?
Speaker 2:everything it was. All most of their budget was spent on, like Kool-Aid yeah, corn syrup yeah the corn syrup.
Speaker 1:I got a few good facts about all that and it's great. I just love that. They're like let's up the ante, let's make it wetter, let's make it grosser, let's make the trees even like more intimidating by having them almost able to move. He's getting sexual assault trees. Yeah, yeah, yeah, gotta watch out for those guys. When I was watching it I was like all right, I told Jason that there's not going to be any more tree rape. And then I saw the tree grab the girl. I was like am I misremembering?
Speaker 1:something here I was like don't do it again. And then I was like, ah, the tree just slammed her into a tree, yeah.
Speaker 2:What do you call that For a guy? I think it's like a nut buster.
Speaker 1:It's like battering rammed her into a tree. So I heard that there's a rumor that every time Bruce Campbell acts in a movie, an angel gets a chin. The guy has a chin.
Speaker 2:He's the best in the business, chin, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I can't remember what is his. He has a biography. I almost spewed Dr Pepper. I was like dang, I should have waited for him to to finish drinking that before I said that line. I couldn't sit on it anymore but he has a biography called If Chins Could Kill.
Speaker 2:Oh man, Because he's just got a chin. That's amazing.
Speaker 1:I will forever love these Evil Dead movies. Just because Sam Raimi was like I love my best friend. How much can I kick his ass?
Speaker 2:How much can I?
Speaker 1:make him kick his own ass. That's awesome. Yeah, they came up from the start. Well, evil Dead Bruce Campbell. He's in every single one of Sam Raimi's movies, either as a cameo or something. That's incredible. And he loves beating them up so much, even to this day, that in the new Doctor Strange movie he has them literally just punching himself for the whole movie, and then the end credit scene is him finally not punching himself anymore, and it's just so amazing. So, uh, do you think this?
Speaker 2:movie's too goofy, it's very perfect. It was goofy so goofy, in fact, that I don't think I should have been watching it alone.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, it'd be. It's a great kind of like. I have a bunch of people here with me and we're watching it and we're like wide awake and stuff. So is this a sequel or is it not a sequel?
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:Should I explain to you what it is, please? Most time when people are talking about Evil Dead 2, they're like, hey, it's the sequel to Evil Dead, but you know it kind of isn't so. According to reports, sam raimi, the mastermind of the evil dead series, kicked around the idea of a sequel during production of the original movie. Several concepts were considered by saint raimi and future, uh, rainbow three, scribe sheldon litch by the final idea laid the groundwork for Armageddon Darkness. Unfortunately, both Universal and 20th Century Fox ended up passing on the potential sequel, so Rami decided to direct the less than stellar Crime Wave instead, which is a crazy movie and it's just not very good. It's like a crime movie that is slapstick comedy, kind of like Evil Dead is a horror movie. That's slapstick comedy, very much. So then he decided to go back to Evil Dead 2. Just kind of going to give you a whole history of the movie, and so they're trying to figure out what to do with it. And then they ended up getting influenced by Hamburger Helper. What?
Speaker 1:So this is where things get kind of crazy. So to refine the script for Evil Dead 2, Sam Raimi brought in his friend Scott Spiegel. Spiegel influenced a lot of the franchise's direction with the additions to the film, including an added emphasis on slapstick horror, Along with the Three Stooges, which was an influence on the entire series. One influence was Spiegel's short film Attack of the Helping Hand, where the mascot goes on a valiant rampage scene where ash has to fight against his own hands was influenced by the short.
Speaker 1:That's incredible, yeah. And then so, um, stephen king got involved into getting the sequel made. So there was, uh, still a hurdle to deal with. The film needed a distributor. Famously, stephen king had such a profound experience watching the original Evil Dead that he publicly endorsed the film. King mentioned the idea of producing a sequel to movie Kingpin, dino De Laurentis, and history was made.
Speaker 1:Ironically, the guy had offered an adaptation of King's Thinner. I don't know if you've ever seen that. It's where a guy gets thinner. No, I haven't seen that. He gets cursed by someone at a carnival and no matter how much he eats, he just gets skinnier and skinnier and can't gain weight. Uh, he offered that same ring me, but, uh, he turned down the offer. Um, but the guy didn't hold any grudges and ended up doing evil dead. So evil dead 2 had right issues. So, according to ash, uh, well, according to bruce, well, according to Bruce Campbell, rights issues ended up leading the film to become neither a reboot or a sequel. The original Evil Dead was distributed by New Line Cinema, while Evil Dead 2 was distributed by the Dino guy, which meant that Raimi and his crew couldn't get the rights to their own movie. This led to the first few minutes of Evil Dead 2 being a scaled down recap of the first film. That boils down the plot of the first film fairly quickly, despite the opening Evil Dead 2 almost making the original film redundant.
Speaker 1:So yeah, it's just essentially like let's take the parts that matter of Evil Dead 1, just do it real quick Necklace head, chainsaw, all the stuff. Is it the same cabin? So no, it's actually filmed like 270 miles away in North Carolina, westboro, north Carolina.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but is it supposed to be in the movie?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's supposed to be the same place.
Speaker 2:He comes back to the cabin. He's always making terrible decisions for women.
Speaker 1:You know how in Evil Dead 1, you got the whole people, they all die and then at the very end, ash is like I win, and then all of a sudden the evil like comes through the house and kicks through the door and like goes at his face and then it cuts to black. So this whenever the girl dies and then he's just like standing in the woods and the evil comes and then he turns into demonic. Yes, ash, technically, when the evil comes at his face, that's where the new movie begins. Evil always comes to your face.
Speaker 1:It always comes right in your mouth. But yeah, so it is a, it's a recap of a movie and then into a sequel. But the recap is also not completely like the original. Yeah, so they just did it again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Which is fun there's also. You got the rat in the cellar. Towards the end they named the rat Senior Cajones, which is Mr Testicles. Yes, I bet he had huge balls. Yeah, let's see, man, rats do have huge balls, do they? I've never really seen rat balls, goddamn man. I guess I should look some up one time. John Normus, so Henrietta the demon in the cellar. That was Sam Raimi's brother in it and because it was in North Carolina during, like the summer, he was sweating a lot and he said he would take off his costume and literally just like a bucket of sweat would pour out of him.
Speaker 1:Which I feel like happens almost every single time that they anybody films something like with a lot of prosthetics, they always say, yep, buckets of sweat fell out of me. Gross Holly Hunter. Do you know who? That is the mom in Incredibles. Her voice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's also in a ton of other stuff, and that was Raising Arizona broadcast. Yes, she's also. I thought it's the rich lady, right? She's not in this movie. Oh, she was going to be in this movie because Sam Raimi lived with the Coen brothers, Francis McDormand and Kathy Bates and Holly Hunter Goddamn, wild fucking house. So much talent and so much money to be made in that house Little do they know. But she was not able to get in. For whatever reason she wasn't able to be in the film. But I just every time I think I even mentioned this last time, but I just have to constantly keep saying the fact that Sam Raimi, the Coen brothers, Francis McDormand, Holly Hunter and Kathy Bates all lived in a house together.
Speaker 1:Why don't we? That should be their next thing. So I don't know if you noticed there's a weird kind of production company at the beginning and end of the movie. It's called Rosebud Release Corporation. So you know about the MPAA. They're the ones that rate the movies. All right, yeah. So the original film was controversial for its staggering level of violence and gore, so much so that it was dubbed a video nasty in England Video nasty, which means you cannot watch this movie. Everyone knew that Evil Dead 2 would be given an X by the MPAA, so Raimi Campbell and Robert Tapper came up with a plan. At the time, dino's production company had a deal with the MPAA that prohibited him from releasing X-rated films. So Raimi and crew set up the Rosebud Releasing Corporation, which allowed them to distribute the movie without the MPAA's input. So they did a loophole.
Speaker 2:It's so cool yeah.
Speaker 1:And I don't see how you could say that this movie is X-rated. In the 80s man People were like, oh no, there's so much demonic stuff in it. We can't allow anybody to watch this. And it's just like this is the goofiest shit you've ever seen. But you know, this is like around satanic panic shit and stuff like that. So you know, everybody had a stick up their butt.
Speaker 2:I guess the US wasn't the only place that had a satanic panic.
Speaker 1:I think it was kind of everywhere that Christianity kind of was around right Everywhere the light touches.
Speaker 2:Everywhere the light touches.
Speaker 1:Simba.
Speaker 1:There's satanic panic going on All right, and so the large demonic head Ash battles in the climax of the film, which the crew nicknamed the Rotten Applehead was too large and cumbersome for the crew to carry back to California, so it was left in north carolina and soon disappeared. Its whereabouts were unknown for a number of years until it was found in a halloween haunted house attraction just outside the original shooting location of wade's barrel, north carolina. That's great, how great. You're just like walking in the woods like what the hell is that? Then you're like we have a haunted house attraction.
Speaker 1:This would be perfect love ghosts up there I would assume they probably watched the movie was like, hey, that's filmed right down the road, let's go to this place. And then they're like what the heck? They left props. Oh man, I would be ec ecstatic. So one last thing the scene where ashes doused in blood coming from the walls was filmed by placing Bruce Campbell horizontally on the floor and then pouring gallons of fake blood on him from above. The scene was the scene was filmed with the camera turned 90 degrees to create the illusion that he was standing upright, was standing upright. So much blood was dumped on Campbell that not only did, he feel like he was nearly drowning.
Speaker 1:He would also produce red snot for the next couple two weeks, or the next two weeks every time he blew his nose. To make matters worse, his insistence that authentic Cairo syrup right, Cairo, yeah, Cairo syrup whatever Formula was used to simulate the blood made him a target for every fly in the neighborhood. So he's covered in flies for the rest of the filming that sucks.
Speaker 2:My dad used to buy that shit for pancakes.
Speaker 1:I have some here to make fake blood.
Speaker 2:Really yeah Sweet.
Speaker 1:I've had it for like 10 years, nice, since the last time I used it. I wonder if it's crystallized or maybe I got like some, maybe I got some new stuff, I don't know, but yeah I do know. Like when I first saw it is like all the stuff was at the bottom, like I guess the sugar or syrup or whatever, and then there's like clear stuff at the top and I was like, well, this is gross. Yeah, we used to eat that. That's nuts, I think. Me and Natalie used it for, uh, we got married and it was the day before uh, halloween when we got married.
Speaker 1:So we came back home on halloween and we're like, oh, we gotta do, we should just do like a funny goofy costume just hanging out around the house. So we did um billy and uh blanking on her name from uh scream, I was the killer and she was sydney yeah, yeah, it was fun. Yeah, just for us. Just for us. It's a little fun thing for us. You know that's great cool. I feel like that's a lot of stuff at the very beginning, so we should probably move into the plot, right yeah and before we get into it we want to know.
Speaker 2:We are gonna try to figure out the point of evil dead 2 and, if you can, please tell me, yes, is there?
Speaker 1:a point, or is it just inner god dang dang baby, all right. So let's start evil dead 2. So film starts and we learn about the necronomicon, or the book of the dead. Its pages are written in blood. It will make demons come for you, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:You say the magic words and we never see the book Really. Yeah, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 1:Because it was burned in the first movie and we didn't see it burn in this movie.
Speaker 2:But I'm assuming it burned. That sucks, they could have just made another one.
Speaker 1:Well, it is at the beginning, but then you like you don't see it after the rest because it's technically burned in the temple or whatever. Yeah, yeah, because that guy on the tape, so the first like five, 10 minutes of the film, essentially acts as an edited account of the first evil dead. The alternate version starts with protagonist Ashley J Williams Ash for short and his girlfriend Linda driving to an abandoned cabin high in the mountains. I don't know. Man, right, like you, just Like if someone drove me, like we're gonna stay in this cabin, I'd be like.
Speaker 2:We're gonna. We're not renting, it's just a house.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's technically supposed to be his cousins right. Well, no, I thought you just said Well it used to be his cousins and then now it's this girl's.
Speaker 2:I don't know, just banking on that, no one will be there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then it's not gonna be covered in spiders and bugs.
Speaker 1:It's like, nah, like I'll come up here, like a week before we're gonna stay clean it up and then we come back. So, within the cabin, ash plays a piano while Linda dances in her underwear. Yeah, he's pretty good. He has recently given her a silver chain with a little magnifying glass. So, within the cabin, ash plays a piano while Linda dances in her underwear yeah, he's pretty good. Yeah, he's pretty good. He has recently given her a silver chain with a little magnifying glass on it. He's like you know, after they're done, she's done dancing goes up to her. He's like hey, what do you say? We have some champagne. Huh, baby. After all, I'm a man and you're a woman. At least the last time I checked, huh, and you're a woman. At least the last time I checked, huh.
Speaker 2:Dude, his face is so good there, he's so cartoonish.
Speaker 1:I know he's ugh Like. I just wish I knew Bruce Campbell. I'd be like yeah, I have to put your face on film as soon as possible. Your chin, it's great. So when Ash goes into another room to get a bottle of champagne and Linja changes out of the rest of her clothes, he finds a reel-to-reel tape player and switches it on. Bum, bum, bum. The recording explains that the cabin belongs to Professor Raymond Noby, who was busy translating pages from the Necronomicon Ex Mortis, and the first one, I believe it's called Mortum Demento. In the recording it's called the Book of the Dead, which they found in the castle of Kandar beside a ceremonial knife with a skull on its handle. Love that knife it looks.
Speaker 2:I didn't know it was a knife, I just thought it was like a, maybe a magic wand, it's like of course.
Speaker 1:How do you kill a demon? Stabbing it with a person's spinal cord that went to a point with a face that goes, hey, make sure you stab me in somebody. All right, recitation on the book's passages that this dark spirit is given license to possess the living, and then proceeds to recite one of the passages which isn't smart, which awakens an evil force that possesses Linda like breaks through the window, she's like screaming, and then Ash is like what? Come on, baby.
Speaker 2:What are you?
Speaker 1:possessed. So, discovering Linda's disappearance in a shattered window, ash ventures outside and is attacked by a now demonified Linda.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when he chops her head off with a shovel.
Speaker 1:I just love when she pops up. It's like and then she's walking and they're wearing those like stuff. That, what are they like? Clouds your eyes type of contacts. Thing is when they used them even in the first movie and this one they still couldn't see in this one.
Speaker 1:So when you see her walking, she's like she's kind of struggling a little bit and it's great, so panicking. That terrified Ash gets lucky and manages to decapitate the love of his life with a handy shovel. Following this, ash decides to do the decent thing and bury his new headless girlfriend keeping the silver necklace as a pendant.
Speaker 2:I was just like what are we doing here, ash? What do you mean? When someone dies, you take you go to the cops.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, you have to report it you can't just bury a person. I know, it's just like now I guess I assume that we skipped a section where he learned from the first movie that he got to like decapitate them and remove all their arms and stuff and bury them. That's the only way to stop it. Maybe we just skip that part in this first one. I forgot about that too the movie's just trying to say don't fucking think about it.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's what I told myself too, I'm like I'm thinking too much. It's like there's no reason for this. Let's not think so.
Speaker 1:now that we're at the end of the first film, the evil force sweeps through the woods and cabin and spins.
Speaker 2:The stress.
Speaker 1:Ashley the woods possessing him, um evil. Flying through the cabin is always amazing, just like bashing through the doors. Yeah, it's so good and it's just like they even got it right in the first film and they made it better in this one by it not obviously just being people pulling strings and opening the door. This time the doors are flying off and stuff yeah, so great.
Speaker 2:I do like this whole section where he's kind of going crazy or he thinks he's going crazy yeah. That's pretty cool yeah, and then he's great.
Speaker 1:Possessed makeup he really looks mean, and then he like falls into the little puddle and pops up. He's like but then, like, fortunately the sun's coming up and it's just like leaves him, and so then, he's fucked up, yeah, um, and so, like the mist, retreats back into the trees in the woods, um, and the cloudiness from ash's eyes leaves. Ash is perfectly healthy now, if not uh kind of depressed and stuff, because he just killed his girl and uh, he does what anybody would do.
Speaker 2:Uh, pass the fuck out yeah, he just sleeps there on that puddle he's like, forget it.
Speaker 1:Who even cares if I die at this point? I'm exhausted.
Speaker 2:I guess he has been up all night killing someone and burying their body.
Speaker 1:Plus he had to drive all the way there, and he was so close to having sex, so that was probably exhausting too, but he didn't have power steering, so it was really hard.
Speaker 2:Probably yeah you ever driven a car without power steering? Yeah, it sucks ass. I tried and I was like I hurt my arm.
Speaker 1:I like tried to turn the car and I was like, ah, I should have stretched.
Speaker 2:I didn't realize how hard this would be. It's like you're trying to steer a pirate ship in a storm.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just not worth driving, so superimpose face on it and hears a voice saying join us ash bravely, uh gets into his oldsmobile and makes a dash for freedom, only to find that the bridge is now destroyed by evil evil.
Speaker 2:Yeah that, uh, that was weird that the bridge was all like, yeah, it all curled up. Yeah, it's great. Like what did that? Yeah.
Speaker 1:Evil.
Speaker 2:Did the bridge get possessed? Whatever is in the woods going? Really fast towards people that's what did it, I guess, or maybe that giant face at the end is just like, just like biting it while he's sleeping.
Speaker 1:So and then the sun goes down very quickly, yeah, super classic. And you get this rad-ass shot, dude, where it's just like it's obviously him in front of kind of a green screen. You get this very cinematic sun going down with a car in the background and he's just like turning Abnormally quick. Eye-fucking-conic bro. It's like my favorite shot in the whole thing. Not really, we will get there.
Speaker 1:And yet again evil is pursuing. Uh, he's like gets in his car. He's driving off, it's like falling behind him, but then he kind of speeds up. They got branches like hitting him in the face as he's driving a. Uh, he runs into a street tree and the car with the car and abruptly is thrown from the car through the windshield and crashes onto the ground. He runs the rest of the way from the car through the windshield and crashes onto the ground. He runs the rest of the way through the woods to the cabin and the pursuit continues. There are at least nine doors or like a hundred doors Don't know how many doors in this cabin and an unfinished hallway in the small cabin, or he's running between the walls or something.
Speaker 1:That's what I thought too. And then he's finally able to evade it by into this little, the little what do you call it? Like trap door that leads to the attic or bunker, or whatever you call it?
Speaker 2:I don't know the fruit cellar. Yeah, yeah, the fruit cellar. I don't know it was a fruit cellar, it's a root cellar. Who would put?
Speaker 1:a fruit in that cellar. There's rats all in it. There's rats all in it. And then evil is just like looking around like meh I'll come back later and retreats back into the woods. Yeah, man, this. Uh, I love the little chase through the cabin. It's so good and it, but it just makes me think like can I like go to this cabin and see how in the world this cabin is laid out? Is every room like four by four, four feet by?
Speaker 2:four feet. It seems super tiny from the outside. Yeah, and then there might be two rooms.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and turns out there might be nine to ten rooms.
Speaker 2:Maybe that's like what's what's supposed to be scary, yeah it's like uncanny of how many rooms are in there.
Speaker 1:so at an airport we meet, annieby arrives. She arrives by plane with a with 300 year old pages of the Book of the Dead and is picked up by her boyfriend, ed. They start their drive to the cabin to join her father, and I love it. They're like, oh, so I heard you found some something. It's like, yeah, some pages. Oh, really, is this a big deal? It's like, yeah, it could be nothing or a doorway to another world, like, yeah, I mean, those are usually the two options I guess she's a real historian.
Speaker 1:If I was the boyfriend, I'd be like, yeah, doorway to another world, sure lady, let's just go to this hopefully romantic habit so read to you, like in the new show, when ash is reading the necronomicon to his date and then it awakens the dead again.
Speaker 2:It's like oops god I gotta, I gotta go back and re-watch that show is so good he's working at the fucking supermarket, supermarket, that's what it's called.
Speaker 1:that's how the first movie begins the shop and save or something. That's where he works in. Uh, army of darkness at the beginning, because every one of these movies starts off different than how the last movie ended, almost kind of like the Resident Evil movies that came out, except it's funnier in the actual good movies. So Ash wakes up and is super scared. He walks through the house because he's trying to find what's in there and finds a piano playing itself.
Speaker 2:Is it?
Speaker 1:playing the song that he was playing. Yeah, I think so, right, yeah. And then the music, even though it is reminding him of Linda, makes him completely not think. Hey, ghost, what's playing?
Speaker 2:This piano.
Speaker 1:There it is, and so he takes the silver necklace from his pocket. Then suddenly some boards barricading a window fall. Looking outside, he sees Linda's grave marker fall over in her headless and already badly decomposed corpse.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he just buried her, like yesterday, yeah.
Speaker 1:And it reanimates and dance, like she's in Nightmare Before Christmas.
Speaker 2:That was amazing it's great. Spinning pops off her head.
Speaker 1:It's just like what Jack Skellington does. Deb Burton, you stole it from Evil Dead and she leaps into the woods. Yeah, I love that it gets a head and it's obviously a Barbie doll, but it's like super fresh compared to her composed body, and so her moves include seductively straddling a tree limb.
Speaker 1:She then vanishes into the dark like she just jumps off, then reappears just outside the windows and grabs Ash telling him to dance with her. After being slammed into the window barricade several times, he breaks free and Linda Heads falls off again. And then Ash all of a sudden is back in his chair screaming, thinking was it all a dream? Who knows, was the dancing corpse a dream?
Speaker 2:I don't know the window barricade seems intact. But then suddenly Linda's head, smiling head, drops into Ash's lap, says hello, lover, and bites his hand hard and between the thumb and forefinger yeah, hello lover, he can hand hard and between the thumb and forefinger he can't slam her head into everything trying to get it off.
Speaker 1:Trying to move it, just like keep slamming it. It's just like gah, gah, gah. But then he's like, ooh, work shed. Hell yeah, oh man, the work shed.
Speaker 2:And though it goes to the work shed clamps her head in a. It's causing to release its grip.
Speaker 1:It starts to mock Ash. He reaches from the spot of the tool shelf marked for the chainsaw but it's not there for, like the first movie. It's so good, but Jason, where could the chainsaw be? Maybe the headless torso has it. Linda's got it, bro, when that torso comes in and it's obviously like a puppet or I don't know. Maybe it's somebody in a suit and it's just like, just like going all over the place.
Speaker 1:It's so funny, it sticks itself into itself Because he like ricochets the chainsaw with like a crowbar or something and it goes in her and it's like Like a hacksaw or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was good thinking.
Speaker 1:So good and I don't know. It's just cinema, man, just cinema, wildest shit. It's just like was he the first person to think of this? He's the only person to ever think what if a headless person was running in with a chainsaw and somehow it got the chainsaw stuck on itself and started cutting itself in half?
Speaker 2:Am I the first person to think of?
Speaker 1:that let's just put it on screen and see what happens.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:So he pries the chainsaw from the body and the detached arm still holding it and yanks on the pool start cord. The head, looking much nicer, begs not to be hurt, then spews black bile and turns evil again. It gets all in his mouth and then Ash destroys it, cutting it in half and spewing blood all over the shed and turning the light red. That's awesome. Yeah, that was pretty cool. It's always good when movies do that, covering the light the sole light source with blood and everything becomes red.
Speaker 1:I think this is the first time I remember seeing that. Yeah, I mean, maybe there was like a 70s movie that did it or something Probably, probably like maybe a Friday the 13th movie, maybe, yeah, but it's great. Same for me, a master of this. So, upon returning to the cabin and trading the chainsaw for a double barrel shotgun or a boomstick he doesn't call it that on returning to the cabin and trading the chainsaw for a double barrel shotgun or a boomstick, he doesn't call it that though.
Speaker 1:No, that's Army of Darkness. Yeah, A handful of extra shells. Ash is further frightened by an unseen entity moving the rocking chair and moaning. You know it stops whenever he walks up to you and is going to put his hand in it. It's like just don't do it. Shoot it with your shotgun and hope something happens.
Speaker 2:I know he pulled Just don't do it, shoot it with your shotgun and hope something happens. I know he like pulled the shotgun back, like hey, you're not going to do it, you're not going to shoot you, he's just trying to touch you.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So, thinking he's going crazy, he just drops his shotgun and tries to console himself by telling his reflection in the mirror that everything is fine. However, his reflection suddenly comes to life, leans out of the mirror and it's all like demonic looking and contradicts him, laughing at Ash's situation and then choking Ash before vanishing, leaving Ash holding himself by the throat. And then he taps the mirror with his right hand. Just an ordinary mirror again. Yeah, he's losing it, but anyway. So after he like pulls back, all of a sudden some best stuff happens. His hand gets dark veins on it, like the thing yeah, like all spewing from the bite room on the edge of Ash's right hand as it mutates and grows longer fingernails and it begins to move around under its own control and make strange laughing noises.
Speaker 1:Then starts attacking Ash by grabbing his face, growling at him and shit.
Speaker 2:This shit is the funniest stuff. What if it was doing like the little mouth you can do with your thumb?
Speaker 1:Hey Ash, I'm your hand. Okay, little googly eyes on it. I'm going to kill you. You hear it's like why is my hand all of a sudden a gangster?
Speaker 2:from the 1930s. Is it because Jesse can only do that type?
Speaker 1:of impersonation. So he holds it down and screams to be given back his his hand.
Speaker 2:You bastards, give me back my head and then does he try to drown it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, is that what he's? Doing but before that, annie and ed drive to a block, uh, uh like drives to the bridge, but it's blocked by workman jake putting a barricade in front of the destroyed bridge. Then suddenly we see Bobby Joe there too, leaning on their car. I love like the reveal of Bobby Joe. It's like, possibly, like it almost feels like some badass reveal the way it's just like turns to her and it's like, yeah, she's here too, I guess, just leaning on their car.
Speaker 2:Yeah, see I thought that they were going to try to kill the other couple when they were like follow us on this trail. That's what it feels like, right?
Speaker 1:no, they were totally legit well, it's because everybody gives a maniacal smile, but it's everybody's just feeling like they're duping the other because of the hundred dollars. It's like a weird little part at the end, like, okay, yeah, guys, can we get back to the evil stuff in the cabin? But yeah, they're saying that there's no other roads. At the end, like, okay, yeah, guys, can we get back to the evil stuff in the cabin? But yeah, they're saying that there's no other roads that lead to the cabin. And they say that there's a small trail in the woods and they would lead them there for $40. Oh, no, $100. And he says, sure, if they carry the luggage.
Speaker 1:And the redneck people are like, yeah, we got them $100 to walk down a trail. Yeah. And then Annie's just like by the way, I have a trunk that somehow fit in my car.
Speaker 2:I don't know. Is that another Oldsmobile they were driving? It looked like it. They have giant trucks.
Speaker 1:It almost looks like the same car. Essentially it does. Yeah, I think it probably is, yeah. So then we cut to Ash trying to drown a hand, and the hand's getting the upper hand and starts smashing dishes all over him it's so good, it's so goofy and starts banging his head in the sink, starts hitting him and even is able to flip him over and after a few more plates, it spots a claver and starts dragging Ash's unconscious body towards it. That was hilarious. But the funniest thing is is just like when he's laying on the ground he just gives like one more little bowl, like dink, it's just like, dude, it's so fucking good, it's so ridiculous and funny, I know.
Speaker 1:But as the hand is getting to the cleaver, ash wakes up and stabs his own hand, pinning it to the floor. That's right. Who's laughing now? He's going completely crazy. It's just Bruce Campbell has just an amazing face. Snake, can you stop please? Are you possessed by a Kandor demon? No, he seems like he is so, and he hacks it off with the very chainsaw he used moments ago to carve his lover to pieces. I hope I never have to cut my own hand off.
Speaker 2:I love how he's laughing maniacally while he's sawing his own hand off, puts a trash can on top of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because that's like, and then like. While he's down he's like who's laughing now? And then like blood spewing in the face and it's just like yes, man, yes, that's something that the remake in, like 2013 gets so right, but like in not a goofy way, just gets like the whole something fucking metal as shit is happening. And then it's like, yeah, blood spewing all over you and it's just like, ladies and gentlemen, filmmaking it's amazing.
Speaker 1:So then we see Annie, Ed and Bobby Joe are proceeding through the dark woods, trailed by Jake struggling along under a huge trunk, a giant trunk, that's awesome.
Speaker 1:So Ash traps his amputated hand under a tin and a few books, including a farewell to arms, so good, and he binds the stump of his arm with cloth and duct tape. But his rough hand escapes and hides inside the walls. Ash fires several shells into the wall and the hand taunts him, gives him the finger yeah. And then he gets stuck in a rat trap. He's laughing at it, yeah. Then it gets stuck in a rat trap. He's laughing at it, yeah. After several more shots, the walls begin to bleed, then spew like essentially like fire hoses throughout the whole. That was awesome, spraying ash and cover the entire room in blood. Then it sucks it all back in. Yeah, ugh, so good. What the hell's happening? It's just, you know, spewing blood from walls. It just never will get old, all right it's all good.
Speaker 2:I had no idea, because I've never seen this one. Yeah, I had no idea the amount of, like the volume of blood that was gonna get coming out of places.
Speaker 1:Well, it's like when you watch the first one there's so much like claymation type stuff and more like ooze and then blood and it really goes like insane with all the puppetry and stuff in the first one and in this one they're like, wow, we can't just redo that. What if everything spews blood all over Bruce Campbell's face? What if we just did that 24-7 in this movie? Oh yeah, and it turns out it works. So suddenly the blood turns black and vanishes back into the walls. Ash sits on a chair and it breaks under wrist weight.
Speaker 1:That's awesome, it's like just constantly something, just nothing can go right, it's just evil is like if we can't get you, we will make sure we are constantly pranking you, yeah that might be the most evil thing that happens.
Speaker 1:It's just like you know a new girl, you have winston, who either pranks too hard or too little. Yeah, it's like what if we just like like, burn his shoe and spread some ashes right outside of his car? It's like that's not a prank. Or it's just like what if we cut off his head? It's like this is like demonic Winston, essentially from New Girl. It's like no, bro, this is just a prank, Don't worry. So in one of my this. Honestly, I think this is my favorite part of the entire movie. So Ash, now laying on the ground because of the chair breaking under, goes and looks at this deer head and it is laughing maniacally.
Speaker 2:It's just a mounted deer head. It's laughing like crazy and suddenly everything, all the items in the house starts laughing.
Speaker 1:It's like lamps cabinets. It's like lamps cabinets. Books Join in. It's Beauty and the Beast demonic way, and Ash, who appears to be losing his sanity. Laughs along with him, and he's like Oompa loompaning with him, and it's just. I get the biggest laugh out of that scene and it's just great Cause, like all the Stuff is kind of going with him.
Speaker 2:It's like yeah, we're all having fun here.
Speaker 1:Then he stops for a the stuff is kind of going with him. It's like yeah, we're all having fun here. Then he stops for a second and everything kind of stops and he's like I'm just doing it again. Oh man, it's just like who thinks of that? Who thinks of it?
Speaker 2:Was this all Bruce's idea?
Speaker 1:No, I think it's Raimi, and whoever the other writer was. It's so good, so good. But then all of a sudden, the laughter ends abruptly when Ash hears movement outside the door and unloads a shotgun into it. So the people at the door are Annie and the gang who has pages of the Necronomicon with her. Ash shoots through the door, clearly on his last nerve. The results in grazing Bobby, joe, ed and Jake beat Ash as Annie notices the absence of her parents in the cabin After seeing the blood on the chainsaw and on Ash and pretty much every square foot of the house they come to the conclusion that he killed Annie's parents.
Speaker 1:The four newcomers throw Ash into the fruit cellar Classic.
Speaker 2:Why call it a fruit cellar?
Speaker 1:I don't know, but that's what they call it. Why call it a fruit?
Speaker 2:cellar?
Speaker 1:I don't know, but that's what they call it. Is there a lot of fruit in North Carolina? Maybe that's what demons are like. This has to be a fruit cellar right.
Speaker 2:Maybe they didn't want to call it a root cellar.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean yeah, I've never heard fruit cellar before. I've heard wine cellar, root cellar cellar, tortures chamber.
Speaker 1:I don't know so Annie tortures chamber? I don't know so. Annie, ed, jake and bobby joe. I mean, here's the thing, here's how you know a movie is good, when they see a character and they're like what should we name her? What about bobby joe? That's how you know it's gonna be a good movie. So they listen to recordings of professors nobies, noobies, I don't know how to say it when they learned that Nobie killed Henrietta, annie's mother, after she became possessed, and buried her body in the fruit cellar Probably after he made that recording of him reading from the book.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I love it because this is where you have Ash, down at the bottom of the steps with Senior Cajones just listening to the thing. You know he's listening to it and I was like I bet not, like nothing will pop out of the ground anytime soon, because suddenly henrietta then rises from the grave and attacks ash. Henrietta, someone's in my fruit cellar, someone with a fresh soul. So the other four hear all this happening, like someone's down there with them probably nobody right, probably not henrietta and they release him from the basement. So the other four hear all this happening it's like someone's down there with them Probably nobody right, probably not Henrietta and they release him from the basement, hauling him out by his head and force the demon wife into the cellar, although this procedure results in Jake getting grabbed by the face, ed similarly grabbed and thrown into the wall and Bubby Joe getting a mouthful of flying eyeballs.
Speaker 2:Oh, that was great.
Speaker 1:She swallowed it. Yeah, that's how you get possessed.
Speaker 2:I was sitting there watching it. I was like don't go in her mouth, Don't go in her mouth.
Speaker 1:And then like Henrietta's face starts getting like that wonky, snake-like looking face or whatever they're like slamming it. Slamming the cellar door on her.
Speaker 2:Luckily they and they're like slamming it slamming the cellar door on her and luckily they're able to lock her in there like an ancient lock.
Speaker 1:Yeah, lock was crazy, yeah I guess what happened to the husband to the, the dad or oh uh, we'll find out in a second. Oh yeah. So ash explains to the group that there is something evil in the woods. As we see evil heading for the cabin, bum, bum, bum. Henrietta takes human form and tries to persuade Annie to let it out. Ash sees through this trick and grabs Annie and shakes his head. It's like no, that's not her. Annie says that thing in the cellar is not my mother. At this point it becomes apparent that Ed too has become possessed, levitating, and takes a bite out of Bobby Joe's hair and tells him all that, yeah, that was gross. We are the things that wear. It shall be again, ah.
Speaker 2:She should probably see a doctor if her hair can come out that easily.
Speaker 1:God, I love Ed's demon face man. When things just like start going batshit crazy and like people start, the demonic voice happens and then it's like everything starts laughing along with it. It's like comforting for me somehow. So I see it, I'm just like, oh, this is great, this is pure joy, this is this has been a good morning so far. Um, and it's like spirits of the book we want your life, life dead by dawn dead by dawn, swallow yours oh man, demon head dude.
Speaker 1:I can't explain to you how horrifying that would be to see, but how I don't know. Man, I see it. I'm just like I want to hang out. He was at a party.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So jake is thrown up and breaks the light bulb with his head. Ash appears to flee, but as the others have been frozen with fear, ash returns brandishing an axe. He hacks Ed to pieces, spraying green slime everywhere, and then so With an axe and air, yeah, and then, like everything kind of calms down for a second. Jake notices through the barricade window that the trail that came in ain't there no more, because what we'll learn soon trees can move.
Speaker 2:Some trees can.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then the clock's pendulum stops suddenly and it's very quiet for a moment, following some ricocheting sound effects. All of a sudden like, and just like, random noises, like I think there's like a monkey sound and there's like some, like human sounds and everything looks flat. Yeah, it's. They put like a weird like effect on it.
Speaker 2:I don't know what it is, but it made it uncomfortable to look at 2d or something, but they took a picture of it and I turned it this way yeah, it's very strange and I I really wish I knew how they did it.
Speaker 1:I looked at the special features. I couldn't couldn't find anything on how they filmed that, um. But yeah, I just love the fact that they're like all turning their head like it's trying to figure out where it's going from watching a ricocheting bullet and so then, um, ash starts walking around and everybody's kind of coming with him, or ain't?
Speaker 1:annie's comes with him, um, and then we see the spirit of annie's father pop up. I must have fallen asleep during that part. Oh gotcha, yeah, this is where, like it looks like they essentially just projected it on the wall and it's kind of like no, I didn't see that.
Speaker 2:I just didn't know that that was her dad.
Speaker 1:And it's very like when it cuts to what's the demon's name in Azulu or whatever In.
Speaker 2:The Exorcist.
Speaker 1:It kind of has that where the whole face is white and the darkness, so it like pops out the eyes a little bit. Yeah, the professor appears ghostlike before them and says that the pages and he possesses are the key to spelling the evil deed dead, and it will also save his soul. So I'm assuming he's in hell.
Speaker 1:Somehow he got out and was able to go to the cabin. I don't know. He's like all right. We've been just punching in the balls for about three months now, so we'll give you a little break and go talk to your daughter.
Speaker 2:So Bobby Joe, put that pineapple away. Yeah, that's not for him.
Speaker 1:Bobby Joe then discovered Ash's possessed, disembodied hand holding hers, and she screams and knocks down their only oil lamp and runs into the forest, where then we see the most sexually aggressive trees. I love evil trees yeah I mean.
Speaker 2:To be sure, less rape in a movie is always better.
Speaker 1:Yes, and luckily they do not do that in this movie, but it does kind of like caress her mouth. Yeah, and like rips her shirt a little bit and it's just like no trees Ash shirt a little bit and it's just like no trees. Gosh, have sex with your own guys oh no like people that are what? Do they call them naturists or whatever they're gonna be like. Wow, that was the most racist thing you could say to trees species?
Speaker 1:I don't know but yeah, then the trees sadly destroy. Just throw Bobby Joe into a tree and once again, sexual harassment trees win again.
Speaker 2:Oh man.
Speaker 1:They always do.
Speaker 2:Sucks. We need to teach these trees about consent. Yeah, Ashley's.
Speaker 1:Like you know what I'm going out there. Takes them out there, shows them a sexual harassment video that you'd like to play in a workplace Like an HR video.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the tree gets all video, so the tree gets all sad. Yeah, sorry.
Speaker 1:So Annie and Ash find a drawing in the pages of the book she brought along which depicts a hero in 1300 AD, said to have dispelled the evil. The hero appears as a figure with a chainsaw like hand and a shotgun which later in the next movie we will be heard, called a boomstick. Fuck yeah, man, yeah, boy, can't wait. Fearing for Bobby Joe, jake picks up the shotgun and brandishes it at the others. Ash tries to convince Jake that Bobby Joe is dead dude, but Jake grows furious and throws the book pages into the cellar and forces everyone to go after her.
Speaker 2:That's where all the book learning goes. Henrietta's like finally something to read down here. It's getting so bored as a demon.
Speaker 1:She's just reading old magazines. Yeah, it's like oh, I think I wrote this actually. So outside the trees are moving, but you know, it's not the way that they move with wind. They're just kind of like, hey, come out here, buddy.
Speaker 2:You want to catch these hands, brother you want to catch these hands brother, some of this.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So the group goes into the woods, only to discover that the trail has disappeared. Evil, and then we see evil starting to rush at them again, and then all of a sudden, they can't see it though. Right, yeah, and yeah, it's like they can and they can't.
Speaker 2:Is it like wind? Yeah?
Speaker 1:Well it's just. It's essentially just demons coming after them, but I think they're like invisible, but sometimes they're not invisible, we just don't ever see them, just kind of see like movement, yeah.
Speaker 2:And sometimes you do see them like a Jurassic, like a, like the raptors in Jurassic Park, yeah.
Speaker 1:But yeah, so evil is coming after them. Ash, you know, is this like telling Jake like, hey, dummy, Like we're going to die, and then he like knocks Ash down and he throws Annie down and then all of a sudden, a possessed Ash wakes up. Yeah, how and why?
Speaker 2:The evil rushed into him I know, but like can it just possess anybody, yeah, or anything, anything, anything living. That's why the trees can be possessed.
Speaker 1:And how did it just do his hand Like what? Well, because it got bit, so his hand was getting possessed, but it just wasn't fully possessing him yet, and so he was able to cut it off, but it's already a possessed hand. So I guess it's just like living you know, demons can possess dolls like Annabelle dolls and kill people in their hotel rooms. So yeah, and Ash is a demon. Now he throws Jake into a tree. Ash chases Annie back to the cabin. He looks badass as a demon.
Speaker 1:He's so cool. I need to play the video game. They have like an Evil Dead video game, I believe. Well, they have like a bunch of them now what they have, one that's kind of like you know how. They have that Jason game. Yeah, they have one where it's like Evil Dead and you can do it like that and stuff. It's really cool. So Annie, back in the house. She grabs the bone dagger from the first movie and accidentally stabs Jake as he's trying to get back pointed the gun at them and stole her book, Hit him and pushed her down and stuff.
Speaker 1:So she has to pull Jake bodies inside so that she can shut the door.
Speaker 2:Ash pounds on the door.
Speaker 1:It's like god, dang it. He's like dude. You stabbed me and this is how you're going to do me.
Speaker 2:He deserved it.
Speaker 1:So Ash is pounding on the door and then suddenly sops and he removes the dagger from Jake and then drags him to a safer place right next to the cellar door, when, of course, Henrietta pops up and drags him to the head.
Speaker 2:Into the cellar head first, into like a meat grinder or something.
Speaker 1:Because then, like Annie is like hosed by a river of blood. It's like in any horror movie. If you're like what should? What? All right, any horror movie. If you're like what should? Alright, we need something kind of cool to happen, always say gushes of blood, just add that into your script. It's always good, I'll never be upset about it even if it doesn't make sense, I'll be like didn't expect that, but that was really cool.
Speaker 1:Ash attacks Annie, accidentally ripping her necklace off her neck, as she lays unconscious. Ash looks at the necklace and reverts to his normal self after being reminded of Linda.
Speaker 2:Same necklace, Sad demon face.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's like learning to love again, but yeah, so essentially just the one thing that can beat demons, true love, that's all you need. You just need love Did he really love her. We don't know. Yeah, well, it seemed like he did.
Speaker 2:Took her to a murder cabin.
Speaker 1:I mean, would you make a face to just anybody, or the one that you truly love? No, that's just Ash.
Speaker 2:That's true Because I do do that sometimes and it doesn't work yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, that's just, we don't have the chin we don't have the facial features, that's it. So then, like Annie wakes up and she's trying to like chop him with an axe, and he's trying to convince her.
Speaker 2:She comes back at him again. She's no longer possessed. He calms her down for a second. Yeah.
Speaker 1:But then he's finally able to convince her that he's not possessed anymore and Ash and Annie agree to vanquish the evil together, for which they will need those pages in the basement. God dang it, jack. Why'd you?
Speaker 2:have to throw them in there.
Speaker 1:But hey, baby, you know what I love in movies A montage, yes, and lock and loading.
Speaker 2:Fuck yeah, let's go baby.
Speaker 1:So Ash, with his I guess his technical know-how he just like knows how to do this for some reason he's able to convert the chainsaw into a chainsaw, hand fitting firmly on his amputated stump and sawing the end of his shotgun.
Speaker 2:I wonder, like when that idea popped in their head? Do you think they knew it from the beginning? After he cut his hand off?
Speaker 1:So they for sure assume that you know, because they're kind of trying to figure out a way to like make this. I feel like they wanted it to end up first in uh, medieval time, and then they saw the hamburger helper thing. It was like cool. And they're like well, now that he only has one hand and we have a shotgun and a chainsaw, what do we do with a chainsaw?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:My God, let's put it on his arm. So, after getting all the best things I've ever seen it is amazing and after getting all this set up and putting the chainsaw on his hand, ash announces Groovy.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah.
Speaker 1:It's like a classic, classic Evil.
Speaker 2:Dead thing. He says it like Duke Nukem.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he says it in, like you know, ash versus the Evil Dead At the end of the Evil Dead remake, if you could say for the whole thing, you just see Ash pop up like in a dark room just saying groovy making you think that they're going to set up a sequel where the person in the remake and Ash are going to fight together to fight evil.
Speaker 1:But that never came to happen. Yeah, sucks, fucking, hate it. So Ash no longer a coward running from evil but a hero to vanquish. Ash and Annie return to the cabin where Ash cuts the cellar doors in half and enters the cellar and finds the pages strewn about the floor, seemingly leading him deeper into the darkness, where he recovers the pages after a Skelemon jumps and scares him. Then he tosses the pages perfectly to Annie somehow. Yeah, it's like they just like perfectly go up to. I'm like Maybe they were wet from all the blood. I was like, okay, well, they obviously glued those pages together and did it.
Speaker 1:But I was like you know what Out of this whole movie? Don't believe that the most so weird how, when, like you, can watch movies, they can do the most ridiculous thing, and then it just be something that in real life there's no way would be possible. So all this fantastical stuff that is obviously fake and would never happen, and then all of a sudden they just do this one thing with something that should be realistic and it's so unrealistic the way it is that I'm like I have problems with this film.
Speaker 2:Well, I think it's. Maybe think it's because that throwing a stack of papers is often seen as like a like.
Speaker 1:I'm pissed and they go everywhere.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they go everywhere. It's a huge thing.
Speaker 1:It's like that's not how that works. It's just like it's weird, how, like you know, just because you know you hear people talk about movies and sometimes people just have like the weirdest nitpicks and it's like, why is that a weird thing that I just have to talk about and say it's like I can't get past it in my head. Maybe they're just really heavy, yeah, some of those, some of that medieval paper you know, made out of human skin Probably, yeah, or at least like it's probably just what hide from, like a deer or something, I don't know. So Henrietta pops up out from under the stairs and attacks Ash and knocks him out.
Speaker 1:While Annie reads the pages, henrietta then leaps out of the cellar door and is like flying and attacking Annie yeah, she looks so gross yeah it's so great Annie Ash emerges from the cellar and begins fighting with the flying Henrietta anytime he whistles.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like all the demons turn. Yeah, they're like oh fuck, dude, that's a whistle.
Speaker 1:It's like I know, like we only known him in this movie for like 10 minutes, but dang, he's cool. He's got to make sure he doesn't chin us. I've never been able to whistle like that. Yeah, I can't like blow out and whistle. I can only whistle a second in. Is that how you whistle? No, I whistle blowing out. I can only whistle blowing in. Oh wait, no, I can whistle blowing out. Wow, this is probably a riveting podcast. On this week's podcast we figured out Jesse figures out he can whistle blowing outwards.
Speaker 2:I made my mouth roll trying to do it with my fingers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I bet you did. I just spent the whole day trying to do it.
Speaker 2:I did it one time and I've never been able to recreate it, yeah sure, that's how he made his mouth go. Maybe I was losing my mind.
Speaker 1:So yeah, ash emerges from the cellar, begins fighting with the flying Henrietta. He is the upper hand, until Henrietta starts hulking up, brother, and transform into a more vicious, demonic form that sounds like a monkey yeah, the big, long, the giraffe, demon head monkey neck, monkey demon that's crazy. I love that thing. It's great. I wish it was my Like monkey monkey demon. That's crazy. That's a love, it's great. I wish it was my friend, you know.
Speaker 2:It looks like the claymation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it did. Yeah, because then whenever he like, zooms out in the long shot that he's fighting it it's like very goofy.
Speaker 2:He like punches the air. The lighting is completely different.
Speaker 1:And like you can tell that the creature is being filmed at that point, and they're like putting the like reverse, like superimposing it on top of Ash yeah, it seems like they might be reverse projecting it, rear projecting maybe, I don't know it's whatever yeah.
Speaker 1:so Ash is saved when Annie distracts Henrietta by singing a lullaby that Henrietta sang to her when she was a girl. Because the demons are possessing them, but the person is still there. That's why it's able to like, transform back into the person and be like please don't kill me, oh, yeah. So while Henrietta is focused on Annie, ash uses his chainsaw to decapitate and dismember the demon. I'll swallow your soul.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll swallow your soul. I'll swallow your soul.
Speaker 1:And then deals the final blow by delivering a shotgun blast to its head. That was awesome. I'll swallow your soul, swallow this, swallow this. Hell yeah, annie and Ash have a tender hugging moment, and then the molesting trees attack. Can't stop, won't stop. I love the scene, though, though, when the trees are attacking and then it's obviously like all miniatures and stuff, but they get outside of the house and, like, the trees are kind of moving on it and the house almost looks like it's about to start sinking into the ground.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the trees are fucking scary. Yeah, they look. I think that was like the best looking demon, in my opinion, all the little tree faces and stuff. Yeah, the tree faces.
Speaker 1:So Annie takes the pages and begins translating to the text to manifest the evil which appears in the form of a large bloody head covered in faces of those it has possessed and the power to wilt flowers, and turns Ash's hair white there, which it will be in.
Speaker 2:Army of the Darkness.
Speaker 1:Yeah and well, it's just like one little streak, it's kind of like a Mr Fantastic type streak. While Ash is grabbed by tree branches and brought closer to the creature which he tries to fend off, the chainsaw in its eyes seems to irritate it a bit.
Speaker 2:All the goo comes out of the tree.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And then Annie recites the incantation to rid the earth of the evil, a large vortex opens up just outside the cabin, gravitating everything around it, including Ash's car, a large tree and the evil itself. Annie is then stabbed in the back by Ash's severed hand with a bow knife. So good, he got the last laugh, man.
Speaker 2:I think she's been getting rid of that thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, laugh, she's been getting rid of that thing. So, with her dying breath, she speaks the last words of the incantation, and the giant head and his tree hands are sucked into the vortex man. It's like I'm reading the most ridiculous show, vortex. Before it disappears, ash is left in the cabin with Nanny's body for a moment before the doors and he's like you did good kid. And suddenly the doors ripped away, showing the Vortex is still there. Ash is sucked in with a long of trees and many items from the cabin.
Speaker 1:So and then we cut to Ash's car and a tree far from the sky and land on a large block of rock. He looks up and finds himself surrounded by armored and mounted medieval knights. The knights are about to attack Ash when a winged demonic creature swoops down from the sky, terrifying the knights as they scatter. Ash reaches for his shotgun and blows the creature's head off. The knights gather around Ash as he prepares to defend himself. One knight then lifts his face places and declares Hell, who hath fallen from the sky to deliver us from the terror of the deadites? Is this the first time they called them deadites? And then the army of medieval warriors then falls to their knees and begin chanting hail as Ash realizes that he is in fact the prophesied hero from the sky. The film closes with Ash shaking his head in disbelief and screaming no, as the camera pans out to show the large army that now awaits Ash's command.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, I love that once he kills the like Deadeye and you got this one like knight, that's like huh could it? Be. But he's got like the most goofy little, like the little eye holes, but they're so close together, it's just so kind of goofy and they're like, and just the way he's moving he's like, huh, what could this be? Ah, oh, what could this be? Ah, jason. So now we went over the plot again. I mean masterpiece, right it's so insane.
Speaker 2:It's just, but I can't wait for the next one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, next year baby, we might do it January next year. Army of Darkness.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's.
Speaker 1:So if you have the first one, which is little goofy but mainly a horror movie, then you have the second one that is really goofy in a horror movie, then the next one is just, it's just goofy in medieval times, just him killing a bunch of demons.
Speaker 1:That's awesome like the army that the army of the dead he has to face is great. You got one character and it's essentially just Ash in demon makeup, so he's essentially fighting himself. It's really great and goofy. I know there's some people that don't like it because it's like that's not Evil Dead and it's just like you can't just keep going back to this cabin.
Speaker 2:How can you say it's not Evil Dead? He just went back in time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like come on guys. It's just not like you know, when things change a little too much people kind of get riled up. It took a left turn. Yeah, so Jason, what's?
Speaker 2:the point.
Speaker 1:What's the fucking point of this movie?
Speaker 2:No, no, no, I don't know.
Speaker 1:The point is that no matter what you face a chainsaw or a hand in a cut off shotgun can protect you.
Speaker 2:That's what I've learned, so true.
Speaker 1:No matter what you face, whether it be paranormal or real, chainsaw, hand sawed off shotgun solves everything. See, I think I fell asleep.
Speaker 2:So I tried watching this last night and I fell asleep pretty early in it, yeah, and I woke up to the end of I think it might have been the end of Army of Darkness, where he's like don't think, just shoot. Yeah, ok, yeah. So I saw that bit and then it ended, so I thought that was the end of this movie.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's crazy so.
Speaker 2:I was waiting for that, I know. And then today I fell asleep and Nosferatu was on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a thing Like, if you're sleepy, you know, just like old kind of campy, goofy horror movies are not something you can really watch, because me and Natalie did watch this last week or earlier this week while you know like smoking and drinking, and we just watched Final Destination, bloodlines, and then we just like, oh, let's watch another one. But I was like man, it started getting a little sleepy. It was still great and funny to me, but then you could definitely feel like, oh, this is a slow part. It's like, ah, I'm kind of getting tired for bed, so I get falling asleep during it, especially if you're really tired. I was really tired you have to take your kids to have to do for their lives.
Speaker 1:You know All right, so that was the point, which is just movie fucking cool dude. So that's the point.
Speaker 2:Hey, can you? You know about filmmaking? I was. I watched a little bit of the credits and there's a position on the film crew called best boy?
Speaker 1:Yes, what is the best boy? It's always the joke. Uh, oh, is it?
Speaker 2:yeah, because like because everybody's like oh, I want to be the best boy I know, just imagine like a little boy dressed up in like a victorian like costume with like fluffy hair, you know so best boy they're?
Speaker 1:they're essentially they're a crew member in both, like the lighting or gaffer, which if you ever see gaffer, that's like lighting and uh grip department. Best boy is the second in command, working directly under the gaffer, uh or chief electrician or creagrip chief of the grip department. They are responsible for the logistics and administrative task within their respective departments, ensuring smooth operation and efficient work workflow. So essentially it's just like if things start wrong, best boy steps in and says I got you.
Speaker 2:You keep doing what you're doing. I'm going to fix.
Speaker 1:Whatever the other situation is Nice, I'm the best boy in this film. All right, so we're going to move to our next category the good, the bad, the ugly and the fine. It's where we discuss the good of the film something we liked the bad, something we didn't. The ugly, something that didn't age well. The fine, something that did age well. For the good, I put Bruce Campbell, yeah, and well, obviously, the Sam Raimi weird-ass mind shit their ability to film great things.
Speaker 2:What about you? Yeah, just, I don't know this is. Would you consider this a B movie?
Speaker 1:that's tough goofy ass horror movies the first one is, I think the second one technically isn't a B movie. It has the vibes of a B movie, but it's so much too much budget yeah, it's, it's this way it's this filmed way.
Speaker 1:It's a better film in terms of being filmed. You may like the first one more, so I know some people do, but I think I like this one more just because I laughed a lot more. Yeah, it's great, yeah, and there's like a lot of. Really. It's the very it's the problem with you know, filmmakers first films. It's like all right, we got to get these people here and we got to get it to make sense.
Speaker 1:But I feel like, as you start, making help, it's like oh, we got to get these people there, we got to figure out who they are, which is usually how you you want to do it, but like for an hour and 25 minute movie, you know, just like let's just go. And I think that's what they found out when making this film. It's like we don't need all this shit, we can just let's just go, let's just have the evil here now. Yeah, which is what we wanted, especially out of the sequel, where it's like we already know how this works. Let's go, which is a problem in some movies. When you just, especially when you get to like Friday the 13th Eight and it's like let's hurry, I think OK. So for my bad, I think this is a bad movie, but I like it. Yeah, my bad. Is you calling it a bad movie? No, the bad and it's not. I don't think this at all. But I know some people think it's too goofy. It's like they like their horror movies.
Speaker 2:Scary, not goofy, but it's a horror comedy. I mean, since I watched the new like Bruce Campbell in the new Evil Dead show Ash vs Evil Dead, I kind of that's my first experience with it and so he was a really goofy then. So when I saw this I was like this is the Ash that I know. Yeah, yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 1:It like this is the Ash that I know. Yeah, yeah, that's what it is. It's like this is what Evil Dead is. It's just funny horror stuff with goofy ass characters, yeah, and then for the ugly, I don't really have anything, I think, at all ages pretty great, yeah, I mean for what I mean? Obviously, I guess the special effects and stuff are.
Speaker 2:But honestly, let's go back to this.
Speaker 1:I enjoy it because I was saying I was watching Final Destination, bloodlines Bro. The movie looks like garbage in a lot of spots. I really enjoyed it and it was fun and the deaths were all great and I got what I wanted from Final Destination. But man, it looked bad. It just like there's so many cgi parts that I'm just like this is a cartoon with human people in it sometimes and it's just like. Then we watch evil dead 2. I'm like give me this, god. It doesn't have to be slick and pristine, just give me this right, I think for me.
Speaker 2:Uh, bruce campbell aged pretty well, like his.
Speaker 1:I just really enjoy his humor and his if someone told me they don't like bruce campbell, I'll swing on him because he's such a fucking idiot boy. Yeah and he's just there's. He's so charismatic. Yeah, he's not the best actor in the movie, but that's what I mean, who cares?
Speaker 1:it's like but there's something about him is like no, that's how a person would act, that's how, like, your goofy friends act and that's what really works. And then you know he's a good guy outside of in life and it's great. I'll read that biography. Yeah, jen's good. Now he's telling me next time I get an audible credit I should download it. I have to, and I think he reads it himself. What? Yeah, oh man, that's the best biography is when they do it themselves.
Speaker 1:So what aged well for me is Sam Raimi man? He's a master of horror. When he makes a horror movie, it's great.
Speaker 2:We should make some other stuff. He's done like new newer.
Speaker 1:Uh well, he did drag me to hell. He did the spider-man trilogy, the original dark man, um, and then he did after drag me to hell. He didn't really make a movie for a long time until dr strange, okay, all right, sucks that he hasn't really made that much and he came back just for a marvel movie and, yeah, it was. There was great parts where you're like that's sam raimi, baby. And then there's other parts where it's like, all right, come on let's get through this marvel shit.
Speaker 2:Let's go, just cranked it out. Can we get some money?
Speaker 1:yeah, it's just like I would love to see his whole fully thought out. Only his idea dr strange mouth into madness or whatever it's called. Put Put deadites into Marvel. Yeah, it kind of did with the. Did you watch Doctor Strange, mouth of madness or whatever?
Speaker 2:it's called.
Speaker 1:Oh, you should, Because there's a part where, like, demons become his cape or whatever. At a certain point, his cape, yeah. So do you care if I tell you things about it? No, I'm good. So there it's a multiverse, shit, right, right. And there's at some point where he goes into the multiverse where he's dead and then at the end he wakes back up as undead Doctor Strange, nice, and there's all these like dead-eye kind of like little demons and he's able to like wrangle them up and it becomes his cape and they're all like and it's like very Sam Raimi, that's great. And it's like very sam raimi, that's great.
Speaker 2:And it's a wonderful, it's just there's not enough of it because they have to make it a comic book movie.
Speaker 1:You know, it's like what if we just didn't make it? Uh, like, uh, I don't know a, uh, I can't think uh no, just like why.
Speaker 1:I don't know what I'm trying to say, I don't know. Just make it a horror movie. Come on, have some guts. All right, sorry about me not knowing words. All of a sudden, yeah, a Marvel horror movie. That would be sweet. Yeah, that's what they were trying to say. This one was going to be, and it's like it's not. It's just you got the good stuff and then you got some of the boring stuff that it's in every Marvel movie. All right, so we're going to go to our next category. It's called Double Feature. It's where we recommend a movie alongside Evil Dead 2. I'm running out of breath over here Out.
Speaker 1:of steam, yeah. So what do you got?
Speaker 2:I don't know if this is the same one as I did last time, but the movie Idle Hands.
Speaker 1:Hell yes, bro, me and Natalie love that movie. We're actually thinking about doing it for the podcast. We keep talking about how I wanted to do it. Maybe we should. Yeah, we should. We should do it soon, me, you and her. Yeah, that'd be great. It's so fun, it's so stupid. You got Seth Green and that other guy there just dead on his couch, oh, because like one's got like a thing in his head and it's so good. It's been a while since I watched it a couple years, I think. It's been a long time for me.
Speaker 2:Love that movie, puts it in the microwave.
Speaker 1:Idle hands are the devil's playthings. I chose Creepshow 2. Baby, you ever seen it? Oh, it's so good, they're like, they're so. It's like three macabre tales from the latest issue of a boy's favorite comic book dealing with a vengeful wooden Native American, a monstrous blob in the lake. It's the best one. That's cool. You should watch it just for that. And Undying Hitchhiker. It's like one of them's written by Stephen King, one George A Romero and one I don't know this person.
Speaker 2:Oh, so they're like short films.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's an anthology series. Oh, neat and Creepshow used to be this comic book back in the day and it, like, inspired Stephen King and a lot of the horror filmmakers and stuff from the time. Yeah, it's great, it's so fun. It's like bad and good all at the same time. Yeah, it's wonderful. But yeah, I recommend Creepshow 2. And that is our conclusion of our episode on Evil Dead 2, baby.
Speaker 2:Hope you enjoyed it. The second most Evil Dead.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they don't get much evil or dead than that, except for in two more Evil Deads that happen. But yeah, join us next week as we're going to get a little, our hearts are going to get warmed, we're going to have a lovely time with a giant robot, because we're doing iron giant during the cold war yeah it's such a fantastic little sad film that you know just made.
Speaker 1:Uh, all the boys and girls cry back in the day I remember crying and it's like vin diesel's uh best role next to root wait he's the giant, he's the giant, wow, yeah vin diesel he's he is a great voice actor. I mean, he's got a weird ass voice and people like it I do, yeah, I do like his voice.
Speaker 1:It's great, yeah can't act, but he's great. So yeah, join us next week for the iron giant, um, and let's land this uh dead eye baby. Let's boomstick this shit. Leave us some fan mail. Click the link at the top of the description. At the bottom is our email. We recommend mailbag at gmailcom. Leave us some reviews, baby. I know we're getting new listeners, so do the dang thing and give us reviews, because then people will be like I have to listen to this now. And then I'd like to thank joey prosser for our intro and outro you can follow him on x at mr joey prosser and dang it.
Speaker 1:This has been the we recommend podcast. I'm jesse, I'm jason. Dead by dawn. Dead by dawn. Thanks for watching.
