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The Iron Giant
When a mysterious metal giant crashes near a small Maine town during the height of Cold War paranoia, nine-year-old Hogarth Hughes discovers something extraordinary – a robot with the soul of a gentle giant. Their unlikely friendship forms the beating heart of Brad Bird's masterpiece, The Iron Giant.
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Welcome to the we Recommend Podcast, a movie podcast where every week, we recommend a movie for you to watch. Then come back here and listen to us discuss. I'm Jesse, I'm Jason. It's bad to kill. Guns kill, and you don't have to be a gun. You are what you choose to be, because this week we recommend the Iron Giant.
Speaker 2:I want to be a gun, no.
Speaker 1:This movie should be watched in the White House. That's fucking awesome.
Speaker 2:Oh man, I got two of my kids two out of three, ain't bad Hell, yeah To watch this movie with me, they love it, they cry. No, they didn't cry, but they loved it. They cry no, they didn't cry, but they loved it.
Speaker 1:Well, they're emotional stunted watched this yesterday 8am my youngest.
Speaker 2:My youngest was yeah, I was my youngest, was watching it and like, whenever he becomes the badass killing machine, I was like, yeah, killing machine. She was like no, daddy no, it's sad.
Speaker 1:I'm like, oh yeah, oh yeah, I should be teaching my kids this. This is bad. They should know that this is bad.
Speaker 2:I was like oh sorry.
Speaker 1:Dad, you're missing the point of the movie. I'm so young, I shouldn't have to tell you this. Holy shit, when he morphs oh it's rad, yes, it's everything you want and everything you don't want at the same time.
Speaker 2:It's excruciating it's everything Mr Mansley wanted?
Speaker 1:I think yeah it's like, finally I can cause world destruction. Let me kill myself to kill this thing. Hell yeah, superman. This is like I love this Mansley man. It's just. It says so much about today with that guy. It's like so much like he's just so scared of anything.
Speaker 1:It's just what he doesn't know, that he just wants to kill it. It's like he's so paranoid and crazy he just wants to kill. Instead of just hey, robot, you, what are we thinking? What are we thinking? It? Instead of just hey, robot, what are we thinking? What are we thinking? It's like, even if they just were like hey, what if we tried to see if we can deprogram his self-defense thing?
Speaker 2:right, or hey, let's use him. He's got a lot of room for branding. Yeah, we could just make him a face of America, right, just like brought to you by Meta.
Speaker 1:Meta Put like a giant oculus sign on it. It's like they would obviously put very like some sort of technology that could make it where you could put your oculus on and then you could be inside the robot and see what he's doing at all times. Yeah, that sounds pretty cool. Eating scrap metal oh cool, we made the iron giant cool.
Speaker 2:We've already commercialized it. Yeah, whoa no.
Speaker 1:So what makes this movie so good for you?
Speaker 2:A boy and his robot.
Speaker 1:Right, because I was thinking this wasn't even that big of a movie to me as a kid, like I watched it, but it's nothing that I thought was like spectacular, but as an adult like Masterpiece. Five out of five. Yeah, send it to the moon, it's so good. Show the aliens.
Speaker 2:When I told everyone we were going to turn it on Ashley, she got upset, because I remember thinking that too, it was like this movie made me so upset as a kid. Yeah, I just didn't want to be sad. But then, but like I said you know what, it's probably not as sad as you think it is, because she used to think that fern gully was the saddest fucking movie that she'd ever seen in her life, but it had been 30 years yeah, so is it not that sad?
Speaker 1:it's really not. She's like don't think I've ever seen Fern Gully.
Speaker 2:She's like before we turned it on. She's like kids brace yourself for the sadness.
Speaker 1:Your heart is going to get ripped out and stabbed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, but we got almost all the way through Fern Gully. We're like what part are you?
Speaker 1:talking about this movie is not sad at all, isn't it just a really cheesy cartoon, fern Gully.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, because I was thinking I'm sure I've seen some of it, but I don't remember anything. That would be like. Maybe as a child it might make you cry. Yeah, as a kid, because they're like destroying the rainforest, you know, yeah, and they're trying to save the rainforest.
Speaker 1:But like kids nowadays love that.
Speaker 2:But back then it's like kill that rainforest. In the same time, there was also, like the commercials, coming on with like the starved children. So you can donate 30 cents a day to save these kids? Yeah, and then, like we found out later that they were just taking the money and not giving it to starving children.
Speaker 1:So yeah, obviously that's why you never give money to anything that you see on tv. Money to charity ever yeah, at least the ones that get sponsored on tv sarah mclaughlin.
Speaker 2:Nothing against sarah I.
Speaker 1:The problem with Ferngully is like, yeah, cut down those rainforests. We got to build some cell phone tires so we can watch TikToks. I have to watch TikToks about.
Speaker 2:Iron Giant. I can watch Ferngully.
Speaker 1:I can watch Ferngully for a minute long on TikTok. Of course, burn down that rainforest.
Speaker 2:No, that's sad, jesse. Yeah, I know I think this, but it was awesome. We all found out that it was awesome when we turned it on.
Speaker 1:It's just there's something about him, just I don't know. It's like you are what you choose to be, thing man. When it's like starting to rev up to where he's when he says goodbye. When he fucking says goodbye, it's like no, because you can pretty much put in place whatever, whatever sad things in your heart. You can put it onto the Iron Giant because it's not a real object, so you could put like a family member, a friend, a pet, you could all put it on the Iron Giant. And then when he says goodbye, it's like fuck, oh no, that person went away from me.
Speaker 2:That's why everyone was okay. They were like ready to die.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and also I mean the line of like it's bad to kill but it's not bad to die.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Shit dude.
Speaker 1:Every kid should watch this movie.
Speaker 2:It teaches you so much, and it's way better than Bambi.
Speaker 1:Yeah, as far as teaching that lesson, I haven't seen bambi in so long, I don't know is. Was that ever even a good movie? I've never.
Speaker 2:I haven't seen it since I was a child. The part with all the fire is fucking rad yeah, I love animals in distress.
Speaker 1:It's so cool and metal, right yeah like. I was kind of thinking. I was like man, you know, like millennials and shit, we get so much stuff for being kind of soft and like we need our safe places. It's because of movies like this. They're just like hey, like don't kill, like be cool, be chill. And it's just like that's why all millennials are like bro, I don't know, we're just chill, just don't hurt me man.
Speaker 2:Just let me have a good time and do what I want. Don't taste me, bro.
Speaker 1:It's like why can't we all just like be cool and just, we can be a weird iron giant if we want to. I don't know, that's what I take away. Fine, yeah, it's totally cool. So, um, should we talk about brad bird for a little bit? Yeah, who's that? Yeah, so that's the director of this movie. Um, do you want to hear some of his other credits? So, a little movie called I don't know the incredibles nice, you know ratatouille. What incredibles? 2? That's awesome. Or, as I like to call it Incredible, incredible Raccoon, the Incredibles 2. And then Mission Impossible, ghost Protocol, my second favorite, mission Impossible movie.
Speaker 1:That's the one where he's on the building in, like Dubai or Saudi Arabia, whichever, the one that has a huge, tall building, I don't think.
Speaker 2:I've seen it.
Speaker 1:He like suction cups onto it with these like little cool ass things that he always makes and then like one falls and he's like, oh no, mission Impossible 2 is rad.
Speaker 1:It has like some of the best like set pieces in that. But then so, yeah. So he went Iron Giant, first movie. He did some Simpsons and like I don't know if you remember this TV series from the 80s, it's called Amazing Stories. It was a Spielberg thing. It was just like, hey, look at these wild amazing stories. I don't remember that's how he. It was a Spielberg thing. It was just like, hey, look at these wild amazing stories. I don't remember that's how he got a start. And then he did Iron Giant.
Speaker 1:He started off making a masterpiece. He also used to be an animator, so, and he's a voice actor. So I thought you were going to say Capital Critters and then I would have been in. I don't even know what you mean by that. So in 99, he does Iron Giant. Then he goes 2004 until he gets the Incredibles done. And then 2007, ratatouille, 2011,. Mission Impossible Takes a dip with Tomorrowland. Tomorrowland's meh, it's very meh. It was just like Disney's like, hey, do this, so people come to our theme parks and people are like we don't know what Tomorrowland is.
Speaker 2:Hey.
Speaker 1:Disney Tomorrowland kind of sucks. Yeah, that's essentially what everybody's reaction was. Why are you doing?
Speaker 2:Tomorrowland it's like the people of the 40s version of what we were supposed to be living like now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they're like, hey, let's grow up and make sure we never get this happening.
Speaker 2:Let's just make TVs big. Well, I guess Walt Disney's vision for the future was that everyone would be nice to each other.
Speaker 1:That's not exactly how it turned out. That's weird, that never in history has that happened, so why should we start now? Well, that's the magic of Disney yeah, so that was 2015, tomorrowland and then 2018. He does the Incredibles 2 and he hasn't done a movie since. He's got a movie called 1906. Don't know much about it and a movie called Ray Gunn with two N's. Never heard of it, never heard that. So I'm super looking forward to.
Speaker 2:that Sounds like a guy named Ray.
Speaker 1:This guy freaking rules. I wish he did man. I just wish after Ghost Protocol he did a different live action movie. Because when I watched Ghost Protocol I was like holy crap, who who did this movie? This is my favorite because at that point it was my favorite Mission Impossible and I was like the Ratatouille.
Speaker 2:I did this.
Speaker 1:I have to know more.
Speaker 2:Ratatouille is amazing, yeah, and the ride at Disney is really cool.
Speaker 1:I mean the only. I love the Incredibles, but they don't really hit me emotionally. I love the Incredibles, but man when Ratatouille, when it's gearing up to be like hey, this food critic's about to eat something that's going to make you cry, brother, and then I'm like, oh no, things that make you think of the past. I'm heartbroken. It's great. So let's see Just a few more things, movie's kind of just ET, huh.
Speaker 1:Thing comes from space. It's lost there. Kid finds it, takes it to his house. It's rummaging through Kid's trying to make sure it doesn't the parents doesn't see. But then also there's military on its tail and then the eventually the military come, they get it. But there's just a little bit more violence in this, obviously because obviously because it's animated and stuff. But Mom's single, I mean, is definitely inspired by. I mean everybody loves Spielberg, he got his I don't know ET really creeped me out as a kid.
Speaker 2:I did not like him.
Speaker 1:Love his head, hate his weird ass, lumpy body man. His pile of poop body. Yes, it is silly, so gross Silly finger. I love his fingers. So that's what she said. But yeah, just when I was watching this I was like, yeah, et, there's a part where, you know, he picks him up and he flies like near the moon. That was cool, so it's. I was like, oh, oh, that makes sense, because brad burke gotta start doing spielberg stuff.
Speaker 2:So did you ever go to universal and ride the et ride? Yeah, it's one of the best rides there.
Speaker 1:It was sweet. Uh, something I hated was when I got there people were like oh, this ride's like this was the weirdest ride ever and I was like it's the weirdest ride ever. When I saw it I was like oh, it's going to be a goofy little ride, whatever. But then it started happening. I was like, oh cool, and you get the whole miniature city below you.
Speaker 1:That was sweet. We're doing the little. You know everything from the movie, and then it's like what if we did a little bit from the books too? And then all of a sudden there's all these like weird ass ETs around, like they look gross, and it's just like let's go. Oh, so excited. And the fact that the little car is like essentially just the bicycles, it's great.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was really cool. I didn't know there were ET books.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's actually a sequel book and everything that like takes place on his home world and stuff. They were going to try to make it, but you know they didn't Alright. So I'm going to lay down a little bit of facts for you. I'm going to get the heartbreaking one out first Snake, hey, hey, come on. His heart is broken. Hey, stop. I know Jason's really great. Oh, I know Jason's really great. He's like oh, that's what he wanted. He wanted the burr, thank you. His tail is going to like tear down the house. It's whipping back and forth so fast. So Brad Bird was, in part, inspired to make this film as a memorial to his sister, susan. Oh no.
Speaker 1:Who died at the hands of her estranged husband by gun violence. His pitch was what if a gun had a soul and didn't want to be a gun? God? Damn man and you were cheering when he became the gun.
Speaker 2:I did. This is rad as hell.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's pretty rough, pretty heartbreaking things. So let's start out with some facts about the Iron Giant. Did you know the Iron Giant is not the original name of the source material of this? Oh, let me guess it was a book called the Iron man, so they changed it to the Iron Giant so there would be no confusion from the Marvel superhero. Yeah, which now is way better of a thing. Also, the movie. The book was written by Ted Hughes, it was a novella and it was just essentially called the Iron man, a story in five nights, so the movie also takes place in five nights. The novella is basically about the Iron Giant defending Earth from extraterrestrial monsters which resembles like dragons and stuff that has crashed on top of Australia. The relationship between Hogarth and his mechanical friend isn't as thoroughly developed in the book as it is in the Iron Giant movie. So yeah, essentially it was just about a giant robot shooting giant reptiles flying around, yeah man.
Speaker 1:That's badass. The book had a sequel in the 90s the Iron Woman. So 25 years after the Iron man was published, ed Hughes released a sequel to the story titled the Iron Woman.
Speaker 1:The sequel mirrors the original novella in almost every way, except the Iron Woman mostly focuses on environmental issues, whereas Iron man deals with war. So yeah, they're just like let's make the Iron Woman. She just likes plants, she likes flowers. So in the 90s Warner Brothers was like we have to get animated movies up and about because of Disney, they're so good at it. So they started off with Space Jam in 96, and then Quest for Camelot, camelot, camelot that's the porn parody of Quest for Camelot. And then in 1998, in the 99, the Iron Giant became the Division's third film and pretty much way better than the other two.
Speaker 2:I don't think I ever saw quest for kevlar.
Speaker 1:Yeah, me neither but um, you know, space jam, that movie that has so much nostalgia for everybody blows. I thought I'd re-watch it for the sequel and I was like, oh no, this movie bad it's not great, yeah, um, and, and I guess in the book there was no Kent Mansley or the Dean guy, the Dean, the reddest guy on the planet, who is a complete psycho.
Speaker 1:The artist, yeah, yeah, and I guess he wasn't an alien in the book. In the film, the Iron Giant becomes from outer space, crashing onto Earth like a meteorite. In the book, however, the character actually emerges from the ocean and it is the evil, dragon looking monster that comes from space and crashes to earth. It's like I really didn't know they had like I just I didn't even know it was a book until now.
Speaker 2:so yeah, no, no kidding, it would have been interesting if there would have been another enemy in the movie. I don't think that would have really added much yeah I mean the in it.
Speaker 1:I think it for things like this, it being humans are the enemy yeah, always works out better for movies like this where it's like a witcher oh, the thing from outer space is not our enemy, we are our own worst enemy.
Speaker 2:Ah wisdom it could have been like a more of a boogie robot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so Vin Diesel, our best voice actor. I don't know, is it wild? Maybe it's just like the gravelness, or what do you call it, the bravado of his voice and the deepness of it that makes you feel for him and you don't see his goofy ass face, but, like I mean, he has made me cry as both characters. Oh, like in Triple X, oh yeah, dude that movie. Whenever he like falls off a skateboard, I'm like no, not.
Speaker 2:Vin.
Speaker 1:Not you, vin, not Xander Cage, but it's wild. I've cried. I've cried at Vin Diesel, both being an iron giant and a Groot. I've cried so much about him being Groot.
Speaker 2:Those movies kill my soul. Whenever he protected everyone and then he had the little glowy things coming out. Yeah, is that his seed? Is he spreading?
Speaker 1:his seed. No, that was just well. I mean, he is a plant.
Speaker 2:So yeah, technically, everything that he spreads seeds yeah, of course.
Speaker 1:Bro, if you don't think Groot fucks, you're out of your mind.
Speaker 1:Another fun thing. This got essentially Brad Bird, pixar movies right. But what kind of opened the door for that is the fact that this is one of the first films, first 2D animated features, to have an entirely computer generated CG character. This technology was still in its very early incarnation at the time. Prominent computer animated films were Pixar's Toy Story, A Bug's Life, toy Story 2, as well as DreamWorks Ants. The 1999's Iron Giant was considered a major feat in animation. Choice of having CG Iron Giant in a 2D movie was twofold. Animators claimed that it was hard to draw a mostly metallic creature character, and the use of CG also served to further the notion that the giant robot did not belong in that world. Geez, I stumbled over all that, but that was cool. It was the first time a CG character was in a 2D movie. Geez, louise, I can't talk.
Speaker 2:That's really cool. I had no idea, yeah.
Speaker 1:That's amazing, and, man, that's pretty much all the facts I got about it. What would you do if you had?
Speaker 2:a robot, a giant robot.
Speaker 1:Honestly, it wouldn't be too much different from what he did. World domination.
Speaker 2:I'd be like let's go play a little bit.
Speaker 1:I'd just be like, hey, you go hide around giant trees and then when you see people turn your head real slowly, you seem to really like to do that. Those are some of my favorite parts in the movie, where it's like the whole like alien thing, where is it? And the next thing, you know, it just slightly moves and you're like, oh, I didn't know. That was some of my favorite parts of this movie actually. Yeah, um, I guess we should get into the plot. Yeah, let's go. And as usual, as we go through the plot of this movie, think about what the movie, what is the movie trying to tell you. So, and if you have any ideas, leave us some fan mail. There's a link in the description or you can go at the very top of the description, you can click. And if you can't click it, because in certain platforms you can't go to the very bottom because we have our email, we recommend mailbag at gmailcom.
Speaker 2:All right, jason, let's go do you think I have no iron? You think the iron giant kind of represents like a disabled person in a way? Uh, no, okay, I well you mean like uh, it's just like heavy just now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean it could, I think it could literally represent. He's got like a mentally handicapped yeah, you know, because of the dent what, oh yeah, and then he like pops it out and he's like I'm not for a form.
Speaker 2:And then he's like super cool until he gets upset yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, maybe I honestly kind of saw him more of a. I mean, I think like an idea of this movie is the fact that Hogarth wants a pet, and then a giant yeah, because he had the squirrel, yeah. And then so he's kind of like, hey, you're training your pet and then your pet becomes your best friend and then your pet dies.
Speaker 2:And he saves the whole town. Squirrel couldn't do that. Yeah, air Bud could.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, he saved the whole time with basketball, okay, and then he elevated to other sports. How old's this dog? It sports. How old's this dog? It can't be in high school anymore. Get this adult dog out of my schools, alright. The Iron Giant 1999. In October 1957, during the Cold War, an object from space crashes in the ocean just off the coast of Maine. A fishing boat collides with the object, which appears to be a giant robot made of iron. The boat sinks, but the skipper survives and swims to the coast, guided by the lighthouse. Let's talk about Skipper Boy's got a face. He's got a face. That's seen some stuff. I was like man feel bad for this guy. They made him as ugly as possible. They always make fishermen in animated movies kind of crazy looking.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they do, and I think it's when you're out. I guess he's had scurvy.
Speaker 1:He's lost some teeth, seems like he's had everything done to him, just had fish come out.
Speaker 2:You lost the sea a couple of times. You don't have any fruit. You're going to lose some teeth, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So then we meet Hogarth, who visits his mom and begs her to keep a pet squirrel. Then Hogarth meets an artist named Dean in a diner because a squirrel got loose. We see the skipper saying he saw the robot and that he called the government. Dean exposes himself and lets a squirrel out of his pants.
Speaker 2:It was really funny how scared the skipper was to tell people that he saw a giant robot. Yeah, I mean yeah, that's stuff. You just kind of keep quiet, I don't want to say I don't want to say, because you already think I'm crazy, yeah, because he already caught a fish this big, yeah, that big.
Speaker 1:So the following night, nine-year-old Hogarth is watching a late night movie on TV. Oh, by the way, hogarth's last name is Hughes, Like Howard Hughes, a reference to the creator of the book. Oh, yeah, he's watching a late night movie on tv like twilight zone. Yeah, it's like I love that they just made a just kind of a 1950s b movie, because a lot obviously it takes place in 1950s. But then you got like the classic sci-fi. It's a brain that can move. All the actors are bad at voice acting. It's great, great Kind of misogynist, yeah, and then the brain like gets on the head. So it's so rad. I would actually just like to see that full movie.
Speaker 2:I love old, like mystery, science, theater stuff, yeah.
Speaker 1:That stuff. I watched that so much as a kid, it was great. I love that they brought it back on Netflix. I wish they do more so. Um, yeah, he's watching a movie on TV as his mother's working late at the cafe. Then the TV suddenly has no picture and Hogarth, hogwarts, hogwarts, hogarth climbs to the roof to find the antenna cut off and a trail that goes into the forest. Dang giant robot, bad at hiding. Here's the thing the Iron Giant's terrible at hiding and also so sneaky.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because of all the tall trees. This is probably like up in Oregon or Washington, right? Uh shit, those giant ass trees. Yeah, I would assume so, because they'd have to be huge.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh no, it's in Maine. Yeah, I just said at the very beginning it's in Maine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's Rockwell Maine. I didn't know. They had the old trees up there old trees up there.
Speaker 1:Well, it's supposed to be in the 50s, so it wouldn't have been as populated, I'd assume no, or as many, I don't know. Maine doesn't seem like they have huge cities.
Speaker 2:I feel like there have been more lobsters and shit. Yeah, sure, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I mean, if they said it at Maine, he's got to fight one giant crab at least. I'm going to do that in the whole episode. Expelliarmus Hogarth investigates a trail of destruction in the forest and finds the culprit, a 50-foot-tall alien robot. Great shot of the robot looking like he is a part of the woods and then turns his head and we see his eyes. So good, every movie should do that if they have creatures in it. Been watching Alien Earth.
Speaker 2:I can't wait to watch that.
Speaker 1:It's so fun to just watch that show. Just be like where's the alien?
Speaker 2:It's got to be here somewhere.
Speaker 1:As long as you're still, you can hide from anything. Yeah, pretty much. And if you're like a weird shaped creature that kind of fits in with every surrounding, ever yeah. So he runs away but then returns to save the robot when he gets electrocuted while trying to eat the transmission lines on an electrical substation. He's a big, hungry boy. Hogarth turns the substation power off. Love that because it's an animated movie for kids. It's just a giant off switch that anybody could just walk into and shut off if they wanted to.
Speaker 2:Well, I think there was a big old barbed wire gate. That's true. That got knocked down. But I'm just like maybe put that inside of a locked building you know, or it's just like a door that you have to have a key. Yeah, something like that I don't know, I don't know, Just like you know there could be like a killer out there.
Speaker 1:That's like I'm going to kill everybody by shutting down the power. No one can see me.
Speaker 2:It is kind of interesting that he didn't like electricity because, like a lot of robots, right.
Speaker 1:But hey, metal man, you know it. I feel like it'd be more of a tickle. Yeah, I don't know, I can't do his voice. So, yeah, he turns off the switch to be so the robot's not being electrocuted. Hogarth's mother returns from work is worried at not finding him at home. Hogarth, you got to clean up man before you go out, just so you're not in that much trouble, you know. So Hogarth climbs the robot's face and looks in his mouth because he's I don't know smart. I guess it's like my cats around my dog. They'll come around and then he starts growling and they're like, oh, he's growling, I should go to his face. It's like, yeah, snake open your mouth, they'll walk right in. But then the robot wakes up. Yeah, he runs away and the robot disappeared. So his mother goes into the forest looking for him and finds him near the substation. Hogarth tries to tell her about the robot, but his mother is not in the mood to hear anything Good guess mom.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, well, I'm assuming, followed the destruction. Yeah, go towards the most dangerous thing nearby, and so she shoves him in the car and they drive off and he sees the robot behind. It's like hey robot, where the hell did you go? It's loud when you stomp this is like it's like Cloverfield, which we just recently did, when it's just like. Why is this thing so sneaky and also always be able to be seen Well?
Speaker 2:Clover, the Cloverfield monster is in a big city and it's so noisy. I can't imagine that being kind of sneaky.
Speaker 1:It's like the Central Park area that we talked about, where I'm like. It's a giant open field. How did it sneak up right behind you and pick you up? The robot does that a lot in this. It's just a classic thing that movies are like oh, we want him to be sneaky, but he's also giant, so so we'll just use it at will. So Hogarth is at school and we see he's learning about a potential atomic holocaust. This is a great video how to duck and cover. Classic 1950s Cold War stuff Fun.
Speaker 2:I always think of the Fallout boy, like in the Fallout games. Yeah, he's got this thumb to the sky measuring the atomic blast, I think of one thing every time I see this.
Speaker 1:It was an old Boy Meets World episode and it's like it's either like the whole episode takes place to where Corey falls asleep or he's dreaming or something and he goes back to the 1950s and all his friends and stuff are from the 1950s and they're doing this whole ducking cover under your desk and stuff about nuclear wars. They now just remember he says kiss your butt goodbye and they're like how could you say that? But yeah, because it was the 50s and everybody's all conservative and like you can't even say but we're adults, we can't think about her um.
Speaker 1:But yeah, his fellow classmates think it's an evil robot and they also don't like him because he's a whiz kid which we'll find out later. It's just because he does his homework.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's just not a piece of shit, yeah.
Speaker 1:Then we see Dean talking to the skipper who said the government is sending someone Bum, bum, bum Cut to investigating the destroyed power station. Us government agent Kent Mansley, played by Shooter McGavin himself yeah, it's the voice of Shooter Christopher, mcdonald is his name.
Speaker 2:I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast you eat pieces of shit for breakfast.
Speaker 1:He discovers evidence of the robot and decides to continue his inquiries in nearby Rockwell At the substation. While he's investigating the robot eats manly's car, he finds a bb gun that hogar left near the substation like hogar man.
Speaker 2:What a good name. Yeah, oh, it is. It's a great one. I think we've lost a lot of really good names.
Speaker 1:Isn't that the name of the giant furry creature in labyrinth?
Speaker 2:you know, or is that the?
Speaker 1:or is that? No, that's, uh, that's the guy that we first see peeing in a pond. Yeah, because that's the puppet that got lost at the luggage museum. Yeah, so Hogarth eventually returns, looking for the robot. He tries to lure him out with metal so he can take a picture of it. Somehow, the robot sneaks up on him and he runs away. Yeah, I mean, is he like I've been?
Speaker 2:watching a lot of it. Somehow the robot sneaks up on him and he runs away. Yeah, I mean, is he like I've been walking watching a lot of ninjas? Stuff on Tik TOK about how they get around real sneaky and they like walk on their hands. Have you seen that? Oh man, I haven't seen that. Maybe he's.
Speaker 1:And that's what he's doing. He's a ninja robot, oh that.
Speaker 1:so the robot catches up with him and tries to sit like hogarth, because hogarth like falls down and he starts sitting and it's really cute. Earthquakes yeah, yeah, the giant shows him the shutoff switch and now he is friendly because he's like. He shows him that he's like oh, you know, I saved you friends for life. Hell yeah, that's awesome. Um, so he befriends the giant, finding him docile and curious. He teaches him about rocks, trees, and the robot, creepily, tries to say the names of objects Rock, rock.
Speaker 2:Tree.
Speaker 1:Sounding more like a whale at that point. Damn, we are going to have to do Finding Nemo soon. Yeah so we see Kent Mansley telling more government agents about the robot. Hogarth is going to go home and come up with a plan, but the robot follows Hogarth back to his house, even though he tries to get him to stay. So cute, I love it.
Speaker 2:He's the puppy that won't go away. It's so ET's like no stay.
Speaker 1:But then ET keeps following. So upon their return, the giant attempts to eat the rails off the ties of a nearby railroad track. Alarmed by the sound of oncoming train, hogarth tells the giant to repair the track.
Speaker 2:The giant attempts this but takes too long, causing the train to collide with his head. Yeah, that's what kind of made me think he had a little bit of Asperger's or something, because he's like, just trying to get it so fine tuned. He's just trying so so concentrated.
Speaker 1:It's like bro just.
Speaker 2:It's like a fucking train.
Speaker 1:Well, he's also got giant hands. It's like a needle and thread for him he's so delicate though Needle and thread, it's hard. So, Hogarth and God, I'm so tired of all the st hogwarts hogarth and the robot flee before the train crew can investigate. Hogarth discovers that the giant is self-repairing, as loose parts from the collision return under their own power and reassemble.
Speaker 1:It's so cool it's so fucking cool I love that when the feet and like they all kind of like, pop, like their mind of its own and I think I've seen this borrowed in other oh yeah, animations and other movies. Yeah, I mean like there's a lot in like in um, shit, I, I, they've, they've all flooded my mind. It's wild. I know there's like some horror movies that do it where, like the, you know, like oh, han got cut off, but like it crawls back to him and stuff like that there's.
Speaker 2:There's a show in that I think it's on Netflix right now. It's like, uh, scavengers, scavengers reign, yeah on, and it on Netflix right now. It's like a scavenger's, scavenger's reign, yeah On, and it's incredible. But it's exactly what happens with the robot in that show. Mm, hmm, and it's so like totally stole it, yeah, probably.
Speaker 1:I'm just I'm trying to remember, like what did this steal it from?
Speaker 2:Like reanimator, I don't know.
Speaker 1:It's fucking cool. Yeah, okay, it's so cool. I love me some robots. So then we see Kent Mansley learns of the derailment and heads off to see the robot. Hogarth hides the robot in their barn where he finishes his repairs and smiles. The boy has a good smile, iron giant, best smile on the planet. And in space, hogarth is eating with his mom while trying to say a prayer. The robot's hand is constantly trying to take stuff in the kitchen.
Speaker 2:It's good to watch the TV.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, the prayer it's so good, Get out of here devil.
Speaker 2:Oh rad, love it. Maybe the robot's power, but Jesus.
Speaker 1:Jesus. Thank you, robot Jesus, it is robot Jesus. Well, I mean it. Essentially it's about Superman and Superman you can tie to being like Jesus. So they all kind of yeah, same thing, it's all the same thing. So Hogarth is about to get to the robot hand out before his mom finds it, until suddenly Kent Mansley is at the door. Mansley, he slams the door in his face though, mr Mansley. So Kent uses their phone to call General Rogard. Shit, completely forgot to remember this game. Which is so General Rogard, he has made. The guy who voices him has made an appearance in a movie we have done recently. Say Anything, it's John Mahoney, the father. Oh shit, yeah, great voice. Love him, but Rogard is not believing him. Kent needs evidence. Upset. He leaves but then realizes that the BB gun is Hogarth's and returns it to him.
Speaker 1:Then the robot flushes the toilet, doing the toilet paper yeah, yeah and his mom spills the beans about the robot to Kent love the flushes the toilet. It's like doing the toilet paper. Yeah, like a kitten, yeah, and his mom spills the beans about. The robot to Kent Love the bathroom bit. So good, kent leaves once again but saying he will see Hogarth again real soon. That sucks, I just love it. It's like all those noises and they open the door. He's like a little privacy here.
Speaker 2:He gets his head caught in the door.
Speaker 1:Yeah, gotta see this little boy. So in the barn, hogarth helps teach the giant about life. He's able to teach the robot how to speak English through his comic books. The robot is impressed with Superman, but distressed when he discovers a comic book about an evil robot, atom, atom. Oh, Hogarth tells the giant that he is more like Superman though. Hell yeah, Hogarth loves his little robot. So Hogarth loves his little robot. So Hogarth and the Iron Giant go looking for food for the giant. He shows the giant Rockwell and the robot starts to run to it, but he says the people aren't ready for him.
Speaker 2:So if the Iron Giant eats metal, does he poop metal? Maybe he doesn't poop. I mean, he has to right, he's not biological.
Speaker 1:He's not really growing. Ooh, actually doesn't poop. I mean, he has to right, he's not biological, he's not really growing. Oh, actually, man, I guess I should need to know what the book says, right? Uh, because there is actually um cut from this. Apparently there's like a special edition of this that has, like some added scenes, because they deleted a scene where they go into the iron giant's past, where he's on his home planet and he's like fighting with the other robots and I guess he's kind of forced to leave the planet.
Speaker 2:So he yeah, yeah, that's cool. So he was like the con, like they just kicked him out for being nice maybe something like that.
Speaker 1:It didn't really have that much detail about what the thing was. I just know that he's fighting with the other people and he's ostracized.
Speaker 2:I guess he's bullied.
Speaker 1:I don't know if they went into their bathroom habits, though.
Speaker 2:So I'm not sure about that. You got to have some good pipes.
Speaker 1:So while out, they see Dean, dean's cool as hell. Yeah, I love Dean, he's the best. He's a weirdo. At the beginning I'm like how does he end up? Because I kind of forget that. He ends up with the mom and I'm like man, the first time he talks to his mom doesn't really go well Because he's like got a squirrel in his pants. Mom's pretty. Yeah, jennifer Aniston, what? Yeah, nice. So yeah, it says yeah, they see Dean. This gives Hogarth the idea for the perfect spot for him to eat. Dean works at a junkyard. They go there and the giant eats a car, but the horn goes off and it's hilarious cause, in a panic the giant throws it somewhere far, but Dean still hears it and goes outside. I love how he's just like. He tries to crush it. Nothing else I can do, just chucks it. Hopefully it went into like the ocean, maybe, I don't know, probably just like destroyed someone's house Pancake someone.
Speaker 1:So Hogarth intercepts Dean to distract him. Dean invites him inside and we see Dean is like a bachelor. Yeah, and he's an artist. He's a struggling artist who owns a junkyard. Well, he probably inherited the junkyard yeah, yeah, maybe I don't, I don't know, it's weird, I mean I guess if you're an artist that's like, yeah, if he's a great thing to a metal sculptor.
Speaker 1:Maybe he's just like ah, this would be perfect. A lot of junk in maine. Apparently this tiny little town of maine makes a lot of junk, I guess everywhere does. That's kind of probably what the iron woman is taking care of oh god, oh so yeah, uh, we see that dean is an artist. Uh, dean offers hogarth some espresso, some coffee and he's like I'll take some.
Speaker 1:And then hogarth goes on a tangent really quickly about school and how he's picked on for being smart. Dean tells him to not care about other things and tells him you are who you choose to be.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah, Dean.
Speaker 1:Yay, this is going to come back later and it's going to hurt our hearts.
Speaker 2:Did you ever have a babysitter growing up? And then, like we had a babysitter once and I remember telling her that I was totally allowed to do all these things, that I wasn't because, yeah, how would she know?
Speaker 1:yeah, stupid woman, stupid woman, babysitter doesn't know, all my babysitters were always just relatives. So, no well, I never okay, I would never get away.
Speaker 2:This lady was much smarter than me as a like a five year old or whatever memory came from.
Speaker 1:Adults smarter than kids who knew.
Speaker 2:Because I did the thing that I said I was allowed to do and it was bad. It was so bad she's just like yep, I knew it, you weren't supposed to.
Speaker 1:So then, after all the expresso talk, they hear a noise outside and Dean investigates immediately thinks it's bad. The robot picks up Dean, but Hogarth tells him he's a friend. Dean is nervous. Hogarth tries and convinces Dean to let him stay at Dean's and he eventually agrees yeah, just eat up my product, that's good, yeah dude boy.
Speaker 1:He's just like don't eat that one. That's hard, eat this stuff. Hogarth returns home in the morning where his mom reveals that Kent Mansley is renting a room in his house. I love that he comes home in the morning to go sleep, oh you're already up. Great yeah just make it the bed. God damn it. I'm going to fall asleep at school, but yeah, it sucks because, like of course, she had to have a room to rent. Oh man, he stays there. Great twist, though. Love it.
Speaker 2:Did your husband die in the war or did they get divorced?
Speaker 1:Ooh.
Speaker 2:Because there had to be a war that he died in right See 1957.
Speaker 1:She's probably in her late 20s, early 30s. Like, world War II is probably over.
Speaker 2:Like 10 years before? Yeah, he's around 10. Like 10 years before yeah, he was around 10.
Speaker 1:Yeah maybe I don't know. Yeah, maybe a robot threw a car on him. So we kind of get a montage of Kent questioning Hogarth and the robot eating Dean's metal. Dean tries to teach him the difference between art and scrap metal and the robot learns quickly and also kind of makes a work of art in Dean's eyes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was sweet.
Speaker 1:He's like oh well, that does look nice. Dean Dice, he's like oh well, that does look nice. Thank you, Vin Diesel. He's a robot to learn. So Kent at the diner flips out about the robot, saying it could be anything. It could be the Russians, it could be aliens.
Speaker 2:It could be your mom. It could be some laxative, yeah, and then Kent gets laxative putting his milkshake. Choco lax.
Speaker 1:Smart thinking Hogarth.
Speaker 2:And then it cuts to the scene from Dumb and Dumber, yeah when he's on the toilet.
Speaker 1:And then Hogarth's like oh shoot, we got to give him some pills because he has like acid reflux or something, then just murders him with rat poison, with rat poison. Yeah, so Hogarth goes to the giant. They're having fun together. He does like a rocket car thing. Looks hella fun. We see Kent investigating more signs of the robot and then eventually finds Hogarth's camera. No, the three.
Speaker 2:It's amazing that Hogarth didn't like go back and like look for it he's good.
Speaker 1:Not thinking I guess Didn't think about his BB gun or his camera. Probably didn't even know where he put that camera.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because it kind of just like was hanging up in a tree, it got just like thrown into a tree or something.
Speaker 1:So the three go to the lake. Hogarth, dean the giant Hogarth's swimming in the lake. He's like come on Iron. Giant runs away and we're like, oh, I guess he's not going to get in there. Cannonball.
Speaker 2:Which is ooh, it drains half the lake. And guess what?
Speaker 1:guys Cannonball that's a reference to the movie we're also going to do next. And the pond almost completely drains out. It's great, it's so cold, this water's fine no-transcript. At first it's like no, and then you get tired of swimming. It's like, oh, I want to go lay on the beach. And it's like, if I do that, though, I have to get back into freezing cold water.
Speaker 2:Well, they're just like. We want to stay in the water, dad.
Speaker 1:I was like which beach did you take him to?
Speaker 2:It was Panama City, I think. Yeah, yeah, it was way too cold.
Speaker 1:We see Kent developing pictures and he sees Hogarth with the Iron Giant. Hogarth is compared to explain the concept of death to the giant after he witnesses hunters killing a deal deer, deal deal who. We see the who wait. Witness hunters killing a deer. Who see the giant oh the yeah hunters end up seeing the giant. I worded that weird. I love like the little cute moment that breaks your heart even more, that the deer gets shot when he like sniffs the finger because deers are very skittish, but he was calm enough to sniff his finger.
Speaker 2:And then he pets the dead deer like tries to pick it up.
Speaker 1:And it doesn't move. It doesn't move. It's so sleepy Because it's a dead ass, deer.
Speaker 2:We see dead animals on the road. I'm like, oh look, it's so sleepy, it's so sleepy.
Speaker 1:Don't worry, kids, this is sleeping, it's asleep. Don't worry about the drag marks and all the blood everywhere and the bird pecking out its eye. It's just sleeping.
Speaker 2:That bird's its friend. It's kind of become a joke.
Speaker 1:Yeah, your kids are like ha ha ha. Dad, you love making jokes about death.
Speaker 2:Got a good one, so hey why do? Chickens only make one noise. I don't know why?
Speaker 1:Because they can't think outside the box. We see the robot sees the gun. Get that fucking joke out of this podcast. Everybody's driving into the river now Because they're laughing so hard.
Speaker 2:We just lost half our audience. It's a traffic accident.
Speaker 1:So when the robot sees the gun used to kill the deer, his eyes turn red. But Hogarth snaps him out of it At Dean's. The robot is sad. Hogarth explains that it's bad to kill, but it's not bad to die. So he explains that no one really dies because their souls live on. And he tells the giant that even he has a soul.
Speaker 2:Oh, not really oh yeah. Cute. I love it. It's cute.
Speaker 1:I love it. It's programmed Well. I don't know. Maybe they gave robot birth on his robot planet you know, we don't know, I don't know if it went through that and deleted the scene A giant robot pussy out there in space.
Speaker 1:Man that robot pussy popping. Sorry for listening to this with your kids, you should know better. So hogarth is detained and interrogated by mansley um and I don't know. So he like mansley's just at home alone with hogarth. Uh, maybe the mom shouldn't leave her son home alone with a random stranger she just met yeah, I mean I guess he's a government agent, so they're like we can protect you because nobody in the government has ever done anything bad.
Speaker 2:They trust the government. Yeah, not the 50s Complicitly.
Speaker 1:At that point we didn't know that they would just do anything to anybody for any reason if they saw fit, yeah, yeah. Cool. So when he discovers evidence of the giant after finding a photo of him next to Hogarth, he threatens taking him away from his mom.
Speaker 2:Classic bad guy energy Fuck yeah, then he's like, I don't know, I could probably make it to where you'll never see your mom again. God damn.
Speaker 1:Mansley Turns out he's a bad guy, you know. Hogarth tells him he is at Dean's and then he gets chloroformed. Oh, what the fuck, mansley? Don't leave your kids with strangers, god damn, Especially government official strangers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, I know you're hurting Ugh Fuck.
Speaker 1:So Kent summons a US Army contingent, led by General Shannon Rogard, to the scrapyard to prove the giant's existence. Hogarth wakes up during the call, but Kent traps him in his room. Kent and Hogarth stare at each other all night, hoping one of them will fall asleep. And then they both do. Kent wakes up and finds that Hogarth only pretended to be asleep. Yeah, hell yeah, Because he's like gonna go in there and he's like, oh, he's still asleep. Then Hogarth walks past the door.
Speaker 2:Hey, just now waking up and he still checks the bed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and he's like how did he do this so?
Speaker 2:great.
Speaker 1:Oh man, what a genius. So the army shows up and they go to Dean's place. Dean is able to pass off the robot as one of his works of art. When Mansley and Lieutenant General Rogard investigate, kent gets chewed out by the general. Annie and Dean flirt a little bit. She's like also, by the way, with your art piece, why you got random road signs on this thing.
Speaker 2:That doesn't seem to go together. The rest seems to do.
Speaker 1:It's like mom's kind of smart, except for the fact that she leaves her son with random people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's not good. Yeah, she's doing her best.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean single mom. What are you going to do, right, it's like. In so later, while playing with a toy gun, Hogarth inadvertently activates the giant's defense system, firing a laser beam in the process, which is fucking rad, and it sucks because right before he's like you're a Tomo, he's like no, I'm Superman. And then he like starts to act like a Tomo.
Speaker 1:Dean yells at him for nearly killing Hogarth and the saddened giant runs away with Hogarth giving chase. Sad Vin is very sad, I don't know. I hate when you got his gravelly voice, oh no.
Speaker 2:No, I'm good as a robot.
Speaker 1:I live a quarter mile at a time. You almost had me. You didn't even have your car. Fast and the Furious, oh shit.
Speaker 2:We gotta do Fast and the Furious soon, dude we should we have to do that?
Speaker 1:Maybe Keep that. We gotta keep that in mind. I don't think it's on anything right now. That's what sucks, oh no. So Dean realizes that the giant was only acting in self-defense and catches up to Hogarth as they follow the giant. The giant walks in snow, sad and alone, just like freaking Charlie Brown man.
Speaker 2:He throws off the S that he put on his chest while playing Snoopy flies by. Yeah, he's late.
Speaker 1:He just gives a thumbs up. It's like damn, Joe, Cool, you're so smart.
Speaker 2:You're so cool I forgot he was called Joe Cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's the coolest dog you've ever met. Then, in Rockwell, the giant rescues two boys falling from a roof when he arrives, winning over the townspeople pretty quick. I feel like even I would still be like. Maybe we should try to see what this robot's all about, though, but he did save the boys.
Speaker 2:Yes, hmm. Actually those are our shittiest boys in the town. Yeah, they're the shittiest boys.
Speaker 1:I fucking hate this robot Robots there. Please kill those two boys, say you robots. So Hogarth arrives and the giant says I'm not a gun, I'm a god. I can't wait to rehear what I'm saying. Maybe, I can put a robot sound to it. I'm not gun. Mansley, having seen the robot, orders an attack to stop it. Hogarth and the robot attempt to flee. Dean tries to tell Kent to stop because he has Hogarth. Kent tells the general that he has killed the kid Asshole yeah because you have the whole military there at that point.
Speaker 2:What is his deal? Yeah, mansley, what's your fucking deal, man? He's paranoid.
Speaker 1:He's terrified of the threat. Well, yeah, I assume that maybe he was in the war, one of the wars, or something.
Speaker 2:No, he was never in a war. He was just wanting to make a name for himself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and wanted to kill something, or he's like a conspiracy theorist that became government official.
Speaker 2:He's like the.
Speaker 1:QAnon shaman. Yeah, he's the shaman. I thought I noticed Kent on January 6th. I was like that guy looks familiar.
Speaker 2:Annie Mansley.
Speaker 1:So while running they fall off a cliff, and then suddenly the robot can fly Hell yeah, just like Iron man, just like he did, it was like oh no, we have nowhere we can go oh he flies. So Hogarth tells him to put out his arm like Superman, and it's like, yes, he flies. So Hogarth tells him to put out his arm like Superman, and it's like, yes, he's Superman, and it stabilizes him immediately.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But then of course some fighter jets come in and almost trigger the giant self-defense. But he puts a stop. He stops it himself from doing so. The jet shoots him out of the sky, and then now Hogarth is unconscious.
Speaker 2:It's really beautiful how he always covered up Hogarth is unconscious. It's really beautiful how, every time, he always covered up Hogarth every time he's a sweetie.
Speaker 1:So the giant assumes that Hogarth is dead and in a fit of rage and grief, transforms into a war machine and returns to Rockwell. I love that. He's like he removes the dent from his head. He has a hand cannon now transformed to a chest cannon and then also has like tentacle guns. That was obviously a reference to War of the Worlds yeah, his head sinks in.
Speaker 1:He's got a bubble around it to protect it what I love about the design of the Iron Giant. It's very 1950s type of a design for a robot and it's oh, this movie's so brilliant man. So mansley convinces rogard to prepare a nuclear missile launch from the uss nautilus as conventional weapons prove to be ineffective. Hogarth awakens and returns in time to calm the giant. While dean clarifies the situation to rogard, tells him you are what you choose to be Damn. Rogarth is ready to stand down and order the Nautilus to deactivate its prime nuke. But a panicked Mansley snatches Rogarth's radio and orders the missile to launch.
Speaker 1:Rogarth's like hey, you idiot, we're next to the robot you ever think about that one how about all these people are here too. He's fired immediately, right? Well, he probably gets, like what? Five months in prison, Probably back in the government.
Speaker 2:So the missile is targeted, just trying to kill a whole town in?
Speaker 1:five months Probably.
Speaker 2:I legit.
Speaker 1:This is like some dumb ass shit that would happen.
Speaker 2:You get 10 years for a fucking quarter sack of weed.
Speaker 1:For this white man in the 50s. So the missile is targeted to hit Rockwell where it will destroy the town upon impact in the resulting nuclear detonation. Mansley attempts to escape, but the giant intervenes and Rogard has Mansley arrested To save the town. The giant bids farewell to Hogarth you stay, I go Fuck. I love you. I am Groot also. And then immediately I'm like it's fucking 830 in the morning and I'm over here trying to hold back to your second notes.
Speaker 1:And then he flies off to intercept the missile. As he soars into the missile's path, the giant remembers Hogarth's words you are who you choose to be.
Speaker 2:He smiles contently and declares to himself Superman as he collides with the weapon. Beautiful, it's great.
Speaker 1:It's so sad, but I put in my notes something to put kind of put us away from it. Hey, people in town, get in a car and drive.
Speaker 2:Yeah, get out of here I feel like maybe at least try if you could get a few miles away.
Speaker 1:You might be able to outrun it or yeah, because that thing was in outer space when he hit it, so you had plenty of time. If all y'all saw that going and just immediately was like we probably probably got five minutes, 100 miles an hour, we'd probably get out of here, yeah, but no, it was just like it's too late Because it's 1950s nuke. It's not like a now nuke that would probably destroy the cars, could only go like 46 miles an hour, that's true. I like all, scoop us all up and just fly away.
Speaker 2:Yeah, put us in your chest cavity, let's go, let's tie him to a tank or something throw mansley at the missile, yeah, uh, but what?
Speaker 1:what a? Just just an absolute brilliant scene with him. Just everything kind of came back all at once, the whole. You stay, I go, which is what he did at the beginning. You, you are, who choose to be the Superman stuff. It was all building to this one moment to rip your heart out. Yes, and it successfully did it. It's why you don't need the most crazy movies. All you have to do is make us feel and we'll remember a movie like for hundreds of years.
Speaker 2:You always remember how you feel. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:So the missile explodes in the atmosphere, saving Rockwell, its population and the military forces nearby, while the giant is presumably destroyed, leaving Hogarth.
Speaker 2:It's called Rockwell. I had a connection. Rockwell, are you about?
Speaker 1:to say Roswell. Oh, I don't think there's any sort of connection. But while the giant is presumably destroyed, leaving Hogarth, dean, annie and Rogar devastated. While the giant is presumably destroyed, leaving Hogarth, dean, annie and Rogar devastated. Months later, dean and Annie, now a couple, have a chat at a memorial of the giant made by Dean standing in Rockwell. Hogarth is given a package from Rogar containing a screw from the giant, which is the only remnant found. But that night. But wait, there's more, there's more. Hogarth finds the screw, trying to move on on its own and, remembering the giant's ability to self-repair, happily allows the screw to leave.
Speaker 2:He's like hey quit screwing around.
Speaker 1:Fun fact that screw is typing Morse code. It's typing go Really. Yeah, that's cool, I know. Movie Perfect. The screw joins many other parts as they converge on the giant's head on the.
Speaker 2:Is that the same? Is that his jaw screw the same one?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's the main one that like fully fixed them the first time we saw it, so now in a glacier in Iceland, and the giant smiles as he begins reassembling himself.
Speaker 2:In.
Speaker 1:Iceland.
Speaker 2:Yeah, goddamn, that's. They got blown to fucking shit.
Speaker 1:I guess it's like the wind. I don't know that's a long way what I'm assuming is probably the parts spread out all over the globe. I'm assuming this is a giant massive nuke and then I'm assuming gravity. Kind of took it a little bit as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because it was kind of outside. Yeah, it's still inside the atmosphere maybe, but it could have just.
Speaker 1:Yeah, giant explosion, though Threw it everywhere. That's awesome, and I think it just all reconverges on his head. So I think that's because he's got the antenna. Yeah, it's great. I wish I could do that.
Speaker 2:I know and because my daughter was like oh no, I was like just wait, just you wait, just wait.
Speaker 1:That's amazing, the Iron Giant. So good, jason. What's the point? Good feelings Just to feel good and bad? I think it's that you don't have to be an evil dick that just wants to point weapons at people and kill them. You can choose to be a good person and help, not kill. Also, I think it's about gun control, war and some like fatherhood stuff. Yeah, sure, yeah, that's really good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Maybe if you have like some power and it's just like. Maybe like we don't just constantly stick like military on people and stuff like that and we just try to figure out rational ways of fixing things. Yeah, on people and stuff like that, and we just try to figure out rational ways of fixing things.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe take a millisecond to try to understand.
Speaker 1:Yeah people and everything. Yeah, everything's fine, we're all good right, everybody's happy, it's good so glad we have movies like this to make me not think about anything around ever, anytime.
Speaker 2:It's amazing. It's such a good movie. Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 1:So, hey, anybody out there who's a dick, stop being a dick. Yeah, be a robot, or blow you up with a nuclear missile. Robots good people, bad. Be more like robots.
Speaker 2:It's like Bender from Futurama.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just well, don't be like him.
Speaker 2:He wanted to kill all humans. He's an alcoholic but but he had to.
Speaker 1:it lubes his gears yeah, that's great for robots, but human alcoholics usually not good people or just in very sad situations you know alright. Well, that's that category.
Speaker 2:Now we're gonna hit the good, the bad, the ugly the fine.
Speaker 1:It's where we discuss the good of the movie, something that we liked about it. The bad, something we didn't like. The ugly, something that didn't age well. The good, something that did age well. What do you got for the good?
Speaker 2:I really love just like the iron giant and his mannerisms and just how protective he was over hogarth. Yeah, uh, this, just it's beautiful, yeah, yeah oh god, he's doing it again.
Speaker 1:God, you should see how wet the couch is from tears. Nothing else so sweaty um, the good for me is like the message. The message and the way it all comes together makes everybody sad. I mean, it's to the point where, like when you talk about iron giant, people are like, oh man, I love that movie so much and it all, I think, comes from the message and how they put it together if you like, like cause.
Speaker 2:During the cold war, everyone was afraid of nuclear bombs, and then it's just. I mean, yeah, today, like you see the government seeking its military on its own citizens and that's what's happening. They have a hero.
Speaker 1:Yeah, save them from who's our iron giant.
Speaker 2:Who's our iron giant? I guess it's one of us. Hey, gotta be Elon Musk. Snake, right, my dog. Is he going to send a rocket to stop a nuke? Probably not.
Speaker 1:No, he'll probably. He'll just tweet about it. Yeah, he's like oh shit, yeah, um for for for the bad, I put if you don't think the message is good, it's whoever you are that thinks this message is bad. You're the bad. And because there's nothing bad about this movie, it's a perfect movie. It's an hour and 25 minutes of perfection yeah, super good, totally cool.
Speaker 2:I didn't really think there was anything bad about it no, absolutely nothing sucks that his BB gun got broken. I would have been pissed Hate to see that man. God damn, I love my BB gun. I use it every goddamn day.
Speaker 1:Taxpayer's dollars having to fix all the stuff he's destroying. God dang robot, you know what? Kill that robot, so the ugly. I said like oh bad Dean, like jazz.
Speaker 2:Ooh, you're not a jazz head. Guess we probably shouldn't.
Speaker 1:Some jazz is okay. I guess we shouldn't do it.
Speaker 2:Some jazz is really good Most of it bad.
Speaker 1:Our second movie. We're characters like jazz Plattable For the ugly. I put you know Jesus? No, not Jesus, our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ I was just going to say Jesus, you know like all the you know, shoot first, ask questions later type of people you know, Just like the deer. That's still around, so nothing really ever changes, you know, you know. The sequel is the Iron Giant getting arrested by ICE, and that sucks.
Speaker 2:Nothing really ever changes, you know you know, did you see a horse?
Speaker 1:The?
Speaker 2:sequel is the Iron Giant getting arrested by ICE.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that sucks. No, even worse. The Iron Giant joins ICE, joins ICE.
Speaker 2:Oh man, just to blend in. Yeah, jeez, infiltrate Illegals Bad.
Speaker 1:Hey. I've thought about it dude, oh no.
Speaker 2:Oh no, oh no.
Speaker 1:Iron.
Speaker 2:Giant.
Speaker 1:You were my best friend. Oh, what do you got for that?
Speaker 2:Ugly.
Speaker 1:No, there's nothing really that ugly. Yeah, nothing, really ages bad.
Speaker 2:No, not really at all. I don't think so.
Speaker 1:For me for the Maine Maine oh fuck Maine, just kidding. So, uh, for me for the main main oh fuck me, just kidding. Never been to maine seems lovely, except for the fact you got giant robots and stephen king monsters stephen king has worn the fuck out of maine, maine's just like dude, can you make one good story?
Speaker 2:we're not that scary over here, guys, we can't help it.
Speaker 1:It's cold all the time there's crabs everywhere.
Speaker 2:I can only assume so many crabs.
Speaker 1:So I put for the good, I just put robots yeah, fuck, yeah, man the robots, yeah, they're awesome and also, just like kids, movies transcending age and that is really good. That's really insightful it's like all well, if you think about it. All good kids movies do that. Yeah, all pixar does that all. Anytime there's like a movie you go and look up reviews and it's got like all these amazing reviews and then you watch and you're like oh, because it kills you.
Speaker 2:It kills adult people's hearts too okay, do you think they have a guy that's just in charge of that?
Speaker 1:like watching the movie, and he's like like so it's like all these people bring these fun little kids movie scripts to him and then, like there's somebody, get the saddest man on the planet. We have to break some hearts.
Speaker 2:Get the bird man yeah.
Speaker 1:So we got for the good, what Aged well, or the fine the Cold War. Cold War, yeah, aged pretty well. We got out of it.
Speaker 2:We did it. We, yeah, aged pretty well. We got out of it. We did it. We're kind of back in it. Yeah, ran a little bit. We did it.
Speaker 1:Man Back in. We got to get out of this section because we can't stop talking about terrible real life fakes. All right Double feature.
Speaker 2:We need an Iron Giant.
Speaker 1:This is our next category. We recommend a movie that goes alongside this movie. I chose another perfect movie. Guess what? It is no ET.
Speaker 2:I'm with a finger blaster.
Speaker 1:I've talked about ET this whole time. Of course, I picked ET. What do you got?
Speaker 2:Astro Boy. Have you ever seen it? I've not seen Astro Boy. It's so good. He's a robot, yeah, and Jack Nicholas Cage is his dad. And there's these robots in the movie that are amazing. They're fighting for freedom and they're fucking idiots. And it's so good. Nice, I love it so much. It's such a good movie.
Speaker 1:I'll have to check that out.
Speaker 2:I think it really went under the radar for a lot so much. It's such a good movie. I'll have to check that out. I think it really went under the radar for a lot of people. It's really really good.
Speaker 1:It's got decent reviews. I will have to check that out. And that is our conclusion of the Iron Giant. Make sure you join us for oh wait, I just got an important news update Cannonball, because this week we recommend Anchorman or next week we're doing Anchorman baby. It's been a while since we did a comedy.
Speaker 2:You don't know to speak Spanish, so let's freaking do it.
Speaker 1:San Diego's whale's vagina. Oh no, Can't wait to go into this movie Don't act like you're not impressed. One of the most quotable movies ever made. So I hope you're not tired of hearing people quote Anchorman throughout your entire life. Because next week we're about to throw a bunch of quotes of Anchorman at your face and your ear holes, which one are you going to choose to open with that's?
Speaker 2:going to be hard.
Speaker 1:I'm going to find the least funny line in the entire thing.
Speaker 2:You know what?
Speaker 1:I'm going to choose the worst part of the movie. I'm going to get a flute and just play the flute. Five minutes of the movie Aqualung the best Like. I just love that. The movies is like people probably.
Speaker 2:What if we?
Speaker 1:do a bit, that will be old immediately when you watch this movie. It's got some of the funniest people in it. Can't wait to do it. I love that. Veronica Corning, oh, the names Brick Tamland, champ Kind. Oh man, what a perfect comedy. So make sure you join us next week for that. It's going to be a lot of this. Yes, jason will be laughing. I will be starting to say continue the notes and then people just laugh louder and I'll stop it's gonna be great, so join us next week for that and thank you for listening.
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