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The House of the Devil
Ti West's "The House of the Devil" isn't just a horror film—it's a time machine. This meticulously crafted throwback to 1980s horror transports viewers to an era when satanic panic gripped America and VHS rentals determined weekend plans. Shot on authentic 16mm film with vintage zoom techniques rather than modern dollies, every frame radiates nostalgic dread.
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Hello and welcome to the We Recommend Podcast, a movie podcast where every week we recommend a movie for you to watch, and then come back here and listen to us discuss. I'm Jesse. I'm Jason. This one night changes everything for me. Cause this week we recommend the house of the devil.
SPEAKER_03:Hey, hail Satan.
SPEAKER_02:That's the devil. So, Jason, is this your first time? Yes. Watching this movie? Yes. Did you enjoy the movie?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I thought it was pretty good. Yeah. I thought it was kind of comical. Like the family when they were doing the rituals. Yeah, it's great.
SPEAKER_02:It's just like, what are we doing? I love it. It's so wacky. It's kind of a perfect, uh, perfect little like small budget indie in like uh indie movie. Short. Yeah. Like that. Hour and thirty. It's nice. Why what was the budget? Yeah, so the budget was only like$8,000. Oh, wait. But there's seven zeros. Is it eight million dollars? Eight million. Yeah. And it ended up grossing like over a hundred thousand, which is nice. Um yeah, it's like low budget and it's so slow through the whole part, but it's like kind of magnificent with the camera work and how like aged it feels. Like if you were to start put this on and someone didn't know, they'd be like, is this movie made in like when does this take place? Like, is it made in the 70s or 80s? Well, it's all about, which is kind of why I think like the ending is so big and wacky and fun. It's like you kind of go through this whole movie, it's slow, starts getting suspenseful. There's like in the middle of the slowness, there's one gunshot that's like, whoa, okay. Hell yeah, calls us with a gun. I was like, wait, this is a splat, this is gonna be like a slow burn splatter movie. Cool. Still that you know, you still don't really know what's gonna happen. You're like, well, it's just gonna be this maniac going through and killing people, and then you know, it slowly gets through, and then she hears something behind the door and it pans, and it's like, oh, this is about so this is like the devil, the devil. Not like, hey, this guy's an asshole, he's a devil. And it's fun. So uh do you like slow burn movies like this?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I do. I I do like uh like suspense. Yeah, did you think it was think it was like too slow? A little.
SPEAKER_02:There was like a lot of um walking at the beginning. Yeah, a little stairs. It just reminded me of how much I hated college. Yeah. Really? Honestly, it makes me kind of love it. Because I loved like walking from class and because all my classes are so far away. And then I was like, oh, headphones, music, yeah, and I was like, I'm this girl.
SPEAKER_03:Yay! Oh, that's so sweet. No, I lived on I was on like the seventh floor, and they had we had elevators, but they were always broken. So like it's just up and down, up and down.
SPEAKER_02:You had a fancy fancy thing. No, I'd lived in like a little house, and I just had to walk maybe like 30 minutes to get to my first class. It was great. Our campus was small. It was super Christian. Did you have to uh did you live with like a sex like a person that just likes to have sex all the time? No. And you couldn't walk into your own.
SPEAKER_03:Actually, no, he I just couldn't masturbate at all. Ever.
SPEAKER_02:That was the worst problem. So do y'all lived in like where it was this one room? Yes. Oh, okay. You couldn't just like turn over and just like, I'm gonna nap. Also, I vi I vibrate when I'm sleeping. Did you say you're gonna fat? I'm gonna nap. Yeah, I think this um, so this was probably maybe like my fourth or fifth time watching the movie. Because when I first saw it, I loved it and I watched it like a couple times in a row. Um, because I just love the vibe, the music, especially the song. Like halfway through, it was a great song. She's dancing around. She did her own choreography. There's like no facts for this movie. It's great. Very frustrating to do a podcast over. Didn't realize that. But yeah, just like the I love like the 70s and 80s like techniques of doing it. Instead of using a dolly, right? Which is something now everybody uses like in their horror movies, instead, like they zoom in with the camera lens. So you just like when it starts, you have that long zoom in where it's just like, oh, we're just zooming into a kitchen, and then it kind of spans a little, and then you see her on the in a different room, and it slowly zooms in on her, and I'm like, oh, this movie's cool. Even the slow parts are gonna be cool.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:How did they do make the um make it look like it was an older movie?
SPEAKER_02:How did they have an old camera? Uh they use a 16 millimeter film camera, which is what was used in a lot of like old. It's like gives you that much more grainy effect, especially in like low light. And I'm assuming they probably had a filter on it, because you know, when they're driving out of town and it's kind of got that like the lights had that like blur to them a little bit. Sure. It's like I'm assuming they probably just put some filters on it and made it like that. And of course, in editing, you can add you know, filters and stuff like that. Yeah, it did it definitely. They were like, I'm gonna make an 80s like splatter demon possession movie. And I think they 100% did it.
SPEAKER_03:Hell yeah, the splatter part definitely.
SPEAKER_02:Sharp turn. It's like whenever you go back and watch like the random movies like on Shudder that are from the 80s, they're all kind of like this, where it's just like, man, at some point it's gonna become a horror movie. And I can't wait because right now it's just a bunch of teenagers or college kids hanging out for a really long time.
SPEAKER_03:Who do you think had the worst roommate? The this girl or uh the butterfly flight? That guy. The butterfly, that guy.
SPEAKER_02:That everybody just living in that world seemed like it was pretty terrible. I was like, wow, dude, I don't know. Like I'm supposed to patchouli an ass in here. I knew people to hang out with. Um I I don't think uh I don't know if I've ever like asked you this question. Like, what's your favorite type of horror? Like demon, ghost, zombie, like just serial killer attacking people. I love that. Or like creature features, your big zombie.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know. Um I guess I've never really thought about it. Uh I guess it just has to be good. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:I think whenever like I it seems like to me, like I really like cultish movies. I do like cult stuff. Like it doesn't always have to be like demon cults or anything, but like when I watched this movie and I didn't know what it was, it was just on lists, right? And I was like, all right, I'll try this one. It's short. It's like I got time. It's on like I think it was on Netflix because I think I watched this probably around 2010, 11, 12, I don't know, whenever. And I saw it and I was like, cool, I don't, I don't know what this is. And then whenever it cut to the people in the pentagon, I was like, let's go.
SPEAKER_05:I love this stuff.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know, it's just creepy, and you know, it's also fun that it like was playing on the satanic panic thing, which is where like everybody went insane for a little while, just thinking there is demons everywhere. And it's like, no, everybody just lies about stuff and everybody believes it. I don't know why.
SPEAKER_03:Um everyone's gonna get AIDS if you're sexually active.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. And I guess there's just something like really creepy about like your body being taken over. Yeah. And this is very like Rosemary's baby, where like, we're putting a baby in you, and it's like getting blackout drunk and waking up pregnant. Yeah. Damn. And you know, for movies where like the whole point of the movie is that they're trying to put a baby in you, that's like this like the son of the D antichrist or is the devil, it's like, you know, I mean, I at least it was not that invasive other than it's some blood in your mouth.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Like if you think of Rosemary's baby, like she thinks she's having a demon, uh, a dream, and then like Satan just is like, you know, rapes her. And it's just like, well, you know, at least you just had a drink from a bloody goat.
SPEAKER_03:That's gotta be every college girl's worst nightmare is waking up pregnant.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's like, dang it, dude. I just wanted to see the eclipse. Now I'm pregnant. Um, have you ever happened upon a pentagram out in the real world, not expecting to see one?
SPEAKER_03:Well, I mean, they're just like shitty ones and like drawn with spray pads.
SPEAKER_02:Ever in like a like creepy environment where you're just like really so we had some woods growing up behind or beside, like a little ways down the road from where we always, you know, we drive foilers and stuff through there, and there was like this barn. And for the most part, anytime we went there, there was nothing, right? And then like one time we're like, ah, let's just go hang out in this barn. And it seems like no one ever did anything in there. I don't know. Like it never had crops or anything in it. So we go in there one time, we go to like the top, and there's like a bed, but then like in front of the bed, there was this giant pentagram. And I was like, hell yeah. What? Oh my gosh. Has the devil been here? It's fucking goats all around. But yeah, that was actually pretty creepy because it's this, you know, not very well lit barn. And then you just kind of see a pentagram and a bed up there, and it's like, I hope everybody's okay.
SPEAKER_03:I like a good old barn. Yeah. One time I I was we were in an old barn and I found like a pristine, like old leather saddle. Like a kid's saddle. And it was so well taken care of. But this barn had obviously not been used and like it was falling to pieces. Yeah. It was just so weird.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's like, what are you doing with this barn? Who are these barns?
SPEAKER_03:Where's the ghost horse this belong?
SPEAKER_02:Um, so like I really almost have I have like maybe two more notes. I already told you the 16mm thing, which uh was very popular in the 1980s, and it gave that retro spec uh uh appearance. Um, this was promotionally released on VHS in a clamshell box. Funny, because T Ty West is in the VHS series, which is the next one we're doing. He lives in a clamshell. Yeah, he lives in a clamshell. What does that mean? Uh, you know, you know, like when you had Disney movies, like the clamshell like VHS.
SPEAKER_03:It's not shaped like a clam.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but that's just what they call things at. Okay. I was picturing like a little mermaid, like or like I guess you could say flip case VHS. Like, I don't know, like flip phone flip case. I don't know. Um, this was only shot in 18 days. Um the house was uh infested by ladybugs. And that's why you can see some in there. Uh it's literally shot in the same kind of style using similar techniques as splatter films of the 1970s and 80s. That's what I was talking about with the camera zooming in and out instead of like panning, which is kind of what most people do now. Cool.
SPEAKER_05:Um Yeah, man. That's it.
SPEAKER_03:It's like it's like literally all the notes. You know what's terrifying about ladybugs? There's a wasp that will lay its eggs under their shell.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And the bugs eat them while they're still alive.
SPEAKER_01:Wait, say that again?
SPEAKER_03:There's a wasp that lays its eggs inside of ladybugs. Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Specifically ladybugs. Dude, insects are fucking crazy. I can watch a horror movie about insects.
SPEAKER_03:They're terrifying. Um I think they call ladybirds in in Europe.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I like that. Yeah, it was uh the the game grounded. They uh they have ladybugs, and then the like the more powerful ladybugs, they call them ladybirds. And the people were like, why the hell are they calling them ladybirds? I was like, I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:The movie Ladybug Facts.
SPEAKER_02:Also, funny thing that we bring that up, Ladybird, which is a movie directed by Greta Greta Gerwig, who is Megan in this movie and got her blames blown out, and she directed Barbie. Nice. That's the girl that directed Barbie. Yeah. Good for her. Bada bing, bada boom.
SPEAKER_03:She might be still without a face.
SPEAKER_02:You know, this like facial reconstruction these days, after that monkey attacked that woman, you know, they just really sleeps and bounds on medical. They really figured it out, and she was just right there in time. So I want you to put yourself, it's 1983, right? You're a young college girl. You need cash so you can get out, so you can go cocaine. So you can, you know, get inside your apartment in the morning instead of like having to wait for your friend to stop having sex. No, you just go in the room. That's true. You probably could. It's like I'm like, Is there a sock on the door? Yeah, there was a sock on the door. Oh, never mind. Yeah. It's like, never mind, we have to obey the rules. Um, and then you're like, all right, I'm gonna babysit because this this will be extra hundred dollars, be quick hundred dollars, and then I'm only gonna need like$117 more dollars. So you go. It's kind of weird. It's like, oh, the guy sounds a little weird on the phone, he didn't show up, but then he calls, and then you go there, right? And he's like, he's a little on edge. And then you know, he's like, by the way, it's not a baby, it's an old lady. You gonna do you gonna do it?
SPEAKER_03:No, really, because that means I'm gonna have to change a diaper, probably.
SPEAKER_02:Truthfully for me, like whenever all right, hit if he acted more normal than this old man did, probably would have stayed. I'd be like, all right, it's this an old lady. If anything, I'll just be like, I'm leaving, come get you old broad. But like if I heard it's like, oh, it's gonna be an old lady, she's just gonna stay upstairs. Just like if you hear a thump, make sure she didn't fall. I'd be like, that's way better than babysitting a kid.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you're right. I mean, if you just turn on prices right and you're good to go.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's like hey lady, have you ever seen blue bloods? Here you go. Um yeah, I was just like, is there any way like in this movie that you'd been like, yeah, I would have stayed? Like in your most desperate situation.
SPEAKER_03:It sounds like easy money. Yeah. And then once you put on your headphones, you can't even hear her fall down.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I would have just kept the TV on. She kept turning the TV off. I'm like, nothing bad ever happens with a TV on. Exactly. Keep your TV on, lady.
SPEAKER_03:It would have made the wor all the work harder for everyone else if she would have just sat down.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Even though, I mean, there she really had no escape because that guy was the the guy that shot Megan was gonna be following them either way to get her there. But I don't think I would have stayed.
unknown:I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's super weird that he lied about it to get you there.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but we're also dudes and yeah, that's true, and I don't need a hundred dollars. So I mean I would take it. I would definitely take that for him. It's her grandma out there needing care. All right, well, I think we're good, like good to hop into the plot. This I really feel bad there. I just I looked all over the internet. The internet said, sorry, I ain't got anything for you. Looked on YouTube, I didn't really see that many like interviews or anything with them, the director. It's kind of bummer.
SPEAKER_03:All right.
SPEAKER_02:But before we get into the plot, I want you to think, what is the point of this movie? Um, yeah. And after the end of the plot, we will let you know what we think the point of the movie is. But if you want to tell us what you think, send us an email or a text message at the top of the description. There is a link that you can click, and then you can just text right from your phone what you think the point of the movie is, or you can just send us some fan mail. At the bottom is our email, and you can send us an email. We recommend mailbag at gmail.com. What do you think the point is? All right, Jason, let's take a trip to the house of the devil. Is the movie metal enough? Does it end metal enough? I think so. It's pretty awesome. I think it's great, right? It's a great ending. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Just want to make sure. Because when I was watching it, I was just like, all right, like I know this whole part is slow and that's something that people have an issue with. I love it because I like the filmmaking aspect of it. But then I'm like, yeah, but the ending fucking goes. It does. Ending rules. It's like, you know, it's a low budget movie, so it's not like technically perfect type of ending, but fun. And then her whole white dress is completely red by the end, and it's like, yeah. Which will, I also think has a lot to do with the point of the movie. So we'll get into it. The plot of the House of the Devil. I am talking too much and saying the same things over and over. All right, it is 1983. Snake's like, come on, move along with it, guys. Oh, really?
SPEAKER_03:New England.
SPEAKER_02:I like to I was thinking Connecticut. Mainly because in the facts is like everybody's I think they filmed in Connecticut, and most like the background people are from Connecticut. So cool. I'm just gonna say Connecticut, you know, the most demonic place on the planet. Yes. So frustrated with living in the dorms of with her oversexed and messy roommate, Samantha Hughes, rents a small apartment. Um, this is where you kind of get that great slow zoom at the beginning where she's standing in it.
SPEAKER_03:It's funny. She's saying oversexed. She just has sex once. I know.
SPEAKER_02:But I think the thought is that she's like, well, because you know, like later we'll get to it. She says, it's in the morning. So it's like, you're still having sex. It's also in the morning. Are you just constantly having sex?
SPEAKER_03:You can you can do two things.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I know, but I think that was definitely the point because she constantly has like all her bra and panties on the ground. Like she just is constantly having sex. And plus, it's you know, a play on the 1980s and 70s films where you know everybody has sex and then they have to die. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um, except for our main character, it seems like maybe she doesn't have sex, which may end up being the point at the end of the movie. All right. So the landlady, uh, played by D. Wallace. She's uh, I don't know if you've seen her in anything, but she's in a bunch of horror movies.
SPEAKER_03:The house renter?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I know that's what we'll get there in a second. Um, so the landlady agrees not to charge her a deposit. Samantha still needs to come up with$300 for first month's rent. I said, landlords like this don't exist. Don't worry about your fees. Look, you know, we'll get your application through, and you don't have to worry about paying me your first month rent yet. It's like, okay, cool. I'm just pets bring them up. Yeah. Um, she walks home, it's a great intro. You just got the song playing. And as she walks and the credits come up, it like pauses on her. It's very fun. Fucking love that shit, man. It's great.
SPEAKER_00:I'm like, ooh, we're in a different decade.
SPEAKER_02:Let's go, baby. I'm gonna wiggle into my chair. Uh, when she gets to her apartment, her roommate is having sex. There's a sock on the door. So she's like, Come on, dude, it's a morning. Like you're always having sex, I guess. Um, so she leaves. She answers an advertisement for a babysitter that she walks past is like on a little cork board or whatever. She calls from a payphone and gets an answering machine, but after the call, she walks away and it starts to ring. Bum bum bum. Is that is that real? Can you call a payphone?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, you can call a payphone.
SPEAKER_02:At least in movies you can. I don't have a call. Um so she answers the phone. The man over the phone sounds way too calm, and I don't know, something sounds off about him, right? He sounds like a weird guy over the phone.
SPEAKER_03:I I don't know. It's it sounded pretty normal to me. It's like, dude, need a babysitter.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but there was like a weird calmness to him. It's like an intense calmness.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. If that makes sense. Maybe he just he seemed like maybe a a professor at the college.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and that's all I think we're like led to believe a little bit at the beginning. Oh. So she goes back to her room where her roommate's side is super messy and grabs her bag. She waits for the man who doesn't seem to be coming, so she leaves because he's like, oh, meet me in like the student or uh facility or whatever. So she's like sitting out there laying on the steps. Sleeping on the steps. Yeah. Hell yeah. So he doesn't show up, so she goes to meet her friend Megan and talk about the apartment. Samantha is stressed about the money. She only has eighty four dollars and needs 300 by Monday, and it's Wednesday right now. Yeah, that's real. Megan says they should tear down all the other fly flyers, so you know, it's like, yeah, no one else can answer the flyers if we tear them all down. I always thought about doing that too. And she was like, Megan's like, nah. Or Samantha's like, no, let's not do that. That's crazy. And I'm like, it's actually smart. It's not a bad idea. Yeah, it's a great idea. It's also we we get a little section where it's like, ugh, the pizza's bad. Like, why is the pizza bad? We'll find out later. Oh. It's Chekhov's pizza.
SPEAKER_03:Check off's?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Well, it's like Chekhov's gun. You in her in the first act, if you show a gun, it's gotta go off in the third act.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_02:Check off's pizza. You have bad pizza at the beginning, it's gonna go off in the third act. It's gonna give you diarrhea an hour later. It's like it's gonna make you have a baby in your so Samantha goes home, where a roommate is still sleeping and snored loudly. Prime it with flavor. Yeah. And it's like nighttime, so this lady, I guess, has spent all night having sex and then slept all day. Sounds like a sounds like a pretty good day. That's pretty chill. It seems like it's probably gonna be a fun night. Um, anything worse than a shitty roommate, though? No, it sucks a lot. It's just like you ever want to be there? Yeah. And it's the only place you got to go when you have nowhere to go. And it's just like so then other places become where you end up going.
SPEAKER_03:I used to bring my room, I had a really terrible roommate. Uh I used to bring him pizza, like lots of pizza, all the time, just so he'd leave me alone. Yeah. My roommates weren't were never really too bad.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, pretty fine.
SPEAKER_03:Mine was always asking me if he looked sick. Yeah. Or if he if Hey, do I look sick?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Why do you keep asking me that?
SPEAKER_03:Yes. I was like, I don't know, man. See a doctor.
SPEAKER_02:It's like, just you actually also might need to see a therapist. Or I don't know, call your mom. Take a picture, send it to her. So uh yeah, she's like the the roommate's snoring so loud, she's like very frustrated. So she goes into the bathroom, turns all the faucets on, and says, and starts crying in the bathroom. And I'm like, ah, classic thing. I do this all the time. Yeah. Can't do this now anywhere because everything's automated faucets. So you can't go and turn on faucets. You just have to look at yourself in the mirror. Uh but then she gets up and she goes and looks into the mirror and says, get a grip. Like, hell yeah. So she's back in her room. Her roommate tells her the man uh uh the man on the phone called earlier. She calls and gets the machine, but he quickly picks up. The man who placed the ad tells her that he and his wife need her that night. Although he behaves oddly on the phone, Samantha's desperation leads her to accept the offer. I promise to make this as painless for you as possible. Oh, geez. Nope. That's what I should have done for the intro. Yeah. Well, I mean, it was probably gonna hurt eventually, but I mean, yeah, they just made her drink blood. It wasn't that painless. Ew. That's so icky, though. Yeah. Well, you don't drink blood often from like a weird-looking old demon lady.
SPEAKER_03:Not even that like tomato-based beer that some people like to mix with their regular beer.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that sounds gross. That sounds uh, I don't know, what's the word? Uh bad. Yeah. So Samantha's best friend, Megan, drives her to the job, which is at a secluded house in the woods. There we hear about a lunar eclipse that night. Megan says she could stay with her throughout the night if she wanted. Um, she is worried about how secluded it is. She also reveals that she tore down all the flyers. She's like, Oh yeah, by the way, got you, girl. Gotcha. Uh Samantha says, if they aren't normal, she can stay. Um, they're kind of this talk. Samantha says, like, they seem normal. I mean, they're rich. And then Megan, you think having lots of money makes you normal? Yes. That makes you weirder, as we all should know by now in the world. Rich people are just insane. It's the whole different life. Like they live a different life and they don't know how to be normal because they don't grow grocery shop.
SPEAKER_03:To be fair, yeah, they don't know. What does that word mean? Yeah. Uh oh man. I said to well, to be fair, I uh also don't know how to talk to people or be normal. I've never been rich.
SPEAKER_02:I'm uh I feel like I'm pretty good at pretending to be normal. Yeah, you're pretty normal. I'm pretty good at pretending to be normal around people. But inside my head, I'm like, what do I say next? What do I say next? Uh how do you have a conversation with someone you don't know very well? Don't taste my skin.
SPEAKER_03:Don't taste my skin.
SPEAKER_02:Someone bring up that they have a pet. I can continue that conversation.
SPEAKER_01:You want to talk about movies?
SPEAKER_02:Any other adults that play video games? No, no? No. Okay. Oops. It's like, oh man, wish uh the average demographic or the people I worked with weren't 60 or 50. So there, Mr. Ullman, uh, who the guy is, is the creepy old man who placed the ad that he is there for the eclipse run. If you're going to watch an eclipse at night, just run from that person.
SPEAKER_03:I'm gonna go watch it get dark.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I can't wait for the nighttime to be even nightier. He then reveals that Samantha will not be babysitting, but taking care of his elderly mother-in-law. Samantha tries to back out, but Mr. Ullman says that people don't like to take care of elderly anymore. And he offers her 400, well, technically offer 300 total, and she's like, make it 400. And he's like, ah, damn, I'm gonna pretend to be upset about this, even though we're gonna put a baby in you.
SPEAKER_03:He's like, no. Double it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Lost my place.
SPEAKER_03:There was this, did you ever watch crank uh, I think crank? Crank anchors? Crank anchors. There's that one rich guy that'd be like, I don't want you to take that price and double it. That sounded a lot like uh uh John Lovitz.
SPEAKER_02:The way you said it, I was like, wow, that sounded a lot like him. That's great. Um, but yeah, so she says 400 and he's like, all right, and she agrees to stay over Megan's objections, who's like, hey, like, this is a terrible idea, don't do this. And she's starting to get kind of upset and crying a little bit. It's like, all right, bye, I'm leaving. Um, listen to your friend. Like, he's too tense, right? This is where I would be like, you know what, old man? Hold on, let me talk to Megan. I'm gonna clear it up with her. And I'm like, Megan, we're running out of this house right now. This guy gets really tense, and anytime I try to I say something that he doesn't want to hear, we have to get out of here.
SPEAKER_03:What really got me was that he thought when he thought the her friend was gonna stay, yeah. Oh, I can only afford to pay one person a crazy amount of money for their time. Like, what does it fucking matter? Yeah. He got two. That's better than one.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Well, it's just like the whole thing, like if she if she ended up saying, Oh, well, she's just gonna stay, but you don't have to pay her, you're just paying me, or if she wants money, I'll just split it with her. But she never says that, so it's like, she's like, Oh, okay. I would have just been like, hey, Megan, when they leave, come back. Like, give me 30 minutes and come back, all right. And then you'll leave at 12 before they get home and then come back at 1230. Yeah, we could have made this happen. Yeah. Um, but yeah, whenever that one point where she kind of gets up, like, nah, and then he guess stands up and it's a little tense. I'm like, I'm definitely out. Um, so Megan leaves, and on the drive home, she stops in a nearby cemetery to have a smoke. Smoke while you drive, lady.
SPEAKER_03:Last nail on the conference.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Uh when her lighter malfunctions, a young man, his name will be uh is Victor, suddenly appears in the window and freaks her out and offers her a light.
SPEAKER_03:Uh she's like cemetery, man.
SPEAKER_02:She's like, Why are you out here? And I'm like, if that guy popped up, I don't need a cigarette. I'm just gonna start driving. I'm just gonna hit the gas. Um he then asks her if she's the babysitter. When she says no, Victor pulls out a gun and shoots her directly in the face, killing her.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:That's how I was like, here we go. Yeah, and now it's just like, all right, we have our villain. I'm sure that this is what the issue is gonna be. This one rogue man. And I love that cultist has a gun.
SPEAKER_03:They always they usually only have like curvy knives and stuff.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, like weird. It's like, hey guys, you can use guns. Guns are better. It's like it's like you can just shoot these people in the legs and then do your cult stuff.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I don't think the devil would be like, you use the gun. Really? I'm the devil, okay? We don't use guns. It's fire and knives. That's it. Also, if you could draw a circle on the ground, I love it. With stars. You know what? Yeah, because I'm a star, yeah, put a star there. I love this devil. The devil's such a valley girl. No, yeah. Bro, you can't even call the devil that. Come on, man. No, it means like I'm getting it. Doesn't it mean like a See you next Tuesday?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, but like, doesn't it mean like a girl who's kind of like a valley girl who wears like all leather and like looks kind of mean? Oh, is that what they mean? It's kind of cunty. Oh. All right, I've never heard of it. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:No, I was just I don't have a problem with cunt. It's just like you can't use that word for the devil. It offends him. Bits please. Devil please. So uh that was fun. Um, yeah. Great surprising uh just like blame brain splatter, though, you know. Just really didn't expect that when I first watched it. I was like, oh, nice, this is a gory horror movie. I think I've I pumped my fist.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you're like, yeah, something happened.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, exactly. Uh but it's like a great, like, bam, oh, cool. I thought this was, you know, it's like it takes you out of that normalcy of like, oh, these are just some girls needing some money. And then it's like, ah, this is a horrific event. Crazy how fast I can change. So, Mr. Ullman gives Samantha half of the baby sitting fee plus some money to order a pizza. Because, you know, college kids love pizza. Mr. Ullman assures Samantha that the mother in law will be no trouble and will probably keep to herself in her upstairs room. They also leave a phone number where they can be reached if anything goes wrong. Like, my luck if I was the baby or the elderly sitter sitter, whatever you call people that do that. Um, like as soon as the parents leave, you just see you see her come down.
SPEAKER_00:Hey. By the way, I'm not staying upstairs, and I'm gonna constantly be wherever you are. I can eat candy for dinner. You want a butterscotch? I have the best hard candies.
SPEAKER_02:It's just stale. She pulls them out of her pocket and it's like, this one's been in my pocket for 10 years.
SPEAKER_00:It's my favorite, and I'm giving it to you. Can you unwrap it and stick it in my mouth?
SPEAKER_02:Immediately falls. Like, ah ah ah.
SPEAKER_03:Old people. Speaking of old candy, I just found a nasty Jolly Rancher in my pocket. Probably been through the wash.
SPEAKER_02:When people give me Jolly Wrenches at work, I never use eat them and always put them in my pocket and then always wash them. Blasphemy. I just don't eat candy. People just give me candy. People just give me candy. Because you might get drugged. No, it's just like I just don't eat a lot of candy. I like chocolate, but like, you know, like Jolly Ranchers. I mean, when I have one, I'm like, hell yeah, this is a Jolly Rancher rancher. But then I'm just like, but anytime I'm like, I don't really want it, but I'm just gonna be nice and maybe one day. And then I watch it and I can never have it. So but anyways, that's my kidney story. Um, yeah, so Samantha meets Mrs. Oldman. Oh, also, whenever the uh husband guy is like talking about pizza, like he keeps repeating himself. He's doing a great job at pretending that he's just like a feeble old man that could never do anything to this girl. I think that little really, you know, puts down her barrier a little bit until Mrs. Oldman comes in and Mrs. Oldman. Oldman. And then she like emerges from the basement and she explains she was looking for her furs and then makes Samantha uncomfortable by commenting how desirable she must be to young boys in leaves. She's like, Oh, you're so pretty that you get fucked. I mean, it's just like, you know, like anytime, like, you know, especially when I was younger and like the older guys is like, man, I bet you're a hit with the ladies. I'm like, man, you just think I'm just out here like boning all the time. Because that's what they're meaning by it. That's what they just wish they could have though. Like, is what they're all they're saying.
SPEAKER_03:And I'm like, I want to take that time machine from Napoleon.
SPEAKER_02:I wish I could go back then to like when the older men like says that to me at work and be like, Yeah, man, I get so much pussy. Crushing it. Put my hand up to high five of them. And if he puts his hand up, be like, hell yeah. And then walk away being completely embarrassed. But yeah, so Mr. Ullmany comes downstairs and he's like, Yeah, you see, you see, old, old ball and chain. I told you everything was gonna be fine. She's like, You're right, I'm wrong. And then I'm like, Oh, what a beautiful couple. And then they're like, pieces, and then he comes back in and like, oh yeah, pizza, by the way. And he's like, I know. Remember the pizza?
SPEAKER_03:Remember the pizza.
SPEAKER_02:Are you sure you can drive and make it back home? You can't remember what you told me. So they're gone. Samantha's kind of walking around the house a little bit. She calls Megan, but no answer. And she does it twice, and it's like, How are you not home yet? Then she orders a pizza, and it's uh, you know, is that the son on the phone? Yeah, that was Victor, the guy that uh old old Barbie director. Um Greta. Greta, what a crazy name.
SPEAKER_03:Greta Norma Pizza Place.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. What can I get for you? Would you like a lot of anchovies? Which I guess is a reference to an eight 1980s movie called Lover Boy. I don't know. Oh, I think it means like turtles because they always had anchovies. I think it's like a jug drug reference. Do you want anchovies with it? I think it's I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:I tried anchovies. I tried anchovies on pizza when I was a kid after seeing the the turtles movie. Yeah. And it was horrible.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I bet. Because whenever I see like anchovies, I'm like, that does not look good. Um, so yeah, short as pizza, the guy seems a little off on the phone, you know? He like seems casual. It's the thing, like these like I don't know. I mean, it might just be because I've seen the movie a few times and I know what's coming, but I'm just like, is that how no that's not how people talk to me when I order a pizza? They're always like, Where are your place? What's your number? What do you want? All right, this amount of minutes, bye. He's like, I don't know. It's the 80s, you know. Yeah, and I guess he's supposed to be probably like he's probably like her age. I know. It's just it's just not how any phone call when I order had ever gone, but different standards back in the day, I guess. So Samantha walks around the house looking around. This would be the most fun of part about uh babysitting an older person, is they're upstairs. I get to look around.
SPEAKER_03:This is where you have the montage of you dancing around the house, yeah. Sliding across the floor in your socks.
SPEAKER_02:So she looks around, she looks at Mr. Ullman's office desk, she tries on some rad glasses. Uh, she goes, she tries to do your homework, but she immediately is like, nah. And then uh she hears a noise outside, so she decides to watch TV where they are talking about the eclipse that starts at midnight. So she turns the TV off and it's like it's saying, like, oh, and now we're gonna have a special feature that's like a horror movie or whatever. And she's like, click, and I'm like, keep it on.
SPEAKER_03:That seems like scary.
SPEAKER_02:That's and it's not a living dead, which is perfect. Um, and I'm like, Yeah, why don't you keep watching it, lady? That's a good movie. Um, but so she turns the TV off and listens to her walkman. She plays uh pool, walks around, dancing around the house until she accidentally breaks a vase. I love the dancing scene. It's so fun. I'm like, oh man, I hope this all elderly lady isn't trying to sleep, lady. That's a loud house. But uh, yeah, and then classic breaks a vase.
SPEAKER_03:Then you just hide it, right? You immediately sweep it under the rug and hide it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, like I hide it, like uh put it in the trash bag, take the trash bag, stuff it down the toilet, just go out back, hide it somewhere far away so they can't see it at night.
SPEAKER_03:Bury that shit in the yard, never say anything about it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and then be like, cool, they're gonna think I live on campus, but I'm getting an apartment, so they won't know. Um, and then so oh, and then it's great. But here's like my favorite part. It's almost like my favorite part of the whole movie. It's wild, and it's such a silly thing. But you know, she's like looking in the fridge and the music playing, then she kind of dances, and then she goes to this one door and the music cuts out. And then she opens the basement and it kind of zooms in on her face. And then uh like the music you can hear the music from her uh Walkman, but like it's not, you know, it's you hear it not in the sound of the movie, but like displaced. Yeah, that uh non or diegetic me. I don't know, whatever. Fuck it. But it's just like super quiet and it's very ominous, and then I'm like, oh, that's crazy. They don't go to the basement. No, not once in the movie.
SPEAKER_03:That's supposed to be the scary part.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but it's all in the attic, and I was thinking, I was like, what the fuck's supposed to be in that basement? More bodies, probably piles and piles of bodies. Unless uh like I missed something and at some point they went into the basement, but I'm pretty sure like at all the times I never remember them going to the basement. It's always an attic. Yeah. That's where the double lives. Unless I'm no, wait. No, I think they do the performance at the b whatever, whatever. We'll get there. We'll get there. I'm sure I have in my notes if it's right. They're like, geez, did you not just watch this movie 30 minutes ago? So uh while cleaning it up, she sees that the closet is full of fur coats. Bump bump bump. But those were supposed to be in the basement. It's like they could have like, you know, more fur coats in the basement. I would totally wear them all. I'd be like, you know what? Broke your vase, and I'm still in a coat. So she also finds a box full of photos of a family other than the old men's posing in front of the house and a car that Samantha saw in the driveway earlier. We get a little cut to like the scene when she got there, and it's like Megan's like, Volvo, nice. And it's like, yeah, I remember. This is like 20 minutes ago in a movie. I love when movies do that. They like, it's only been 20 minutes since we saw a scene, and they cut back like this, it's like, all right, it's not that long ago, guys. Um, so she walks outside to look at the car, but she sees a van instead. That wasn't there earlier. Bum, bum, bum. She walks in, and we see a guy's legs walking behind the van and putting out a cigarette. Oh no, it's the boy. The longest burning cigarette you ever did see.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, that he took from the faceless girl.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, Megan. Um, so now freaked out. She calls Megan again and still no answer. She grabs a knife and goes to the bathroom. Then she looks in the mirror. Get a grip. Call back. Check off, get a grip. Uh, then she hears a bang upstairs and some walking around. With a knife, she goes to check out the noise. She asks us, everything is all right. And then we slow pan in the room, which is actually the attic, and see symbols and a pentagram on the floor with a bloody child in the center and parents laying bloody outside of it.
SPEAKER_01:Then the doorbell.
SPEAKER_03:Scary doorbells. That was cool though. She couldn't see through the door, but like you can see what's on the other side. Oh, fantastic, right?
SPEAKER_02:Because then that's like, oh, this is some like this is like not this is supernatural now.
SPEAKER_03:Scotty doesn't know.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, Scotty didn't know. But yeah, it's like a great little, you know, because you call it the house of the devil, but the devil could be anything, right? It could be a person, anything. It doesn't have to be a satanic movie. So, you know, going into it, not knowing it, and like all this Victor shit, like he kills a girl, and then he's like outside of the house, and it's like, that van wasn't there, he's gonna kill you. And then like five seconds later, it's like, the devil actually might kill you. It's like, uh, this is more than I thought it was gonna be, and it's fun. So Victor delivers the pizza to Samantha, who throws the money and slams the door on him. Then he's like, have a nice night. Then uh Victor wanders around the property to keep an eye on her. Um, Samantha eats some pizza but throws it in the trash because she thinks there's something wrong with it, because she's like, How long can I do that before someone like goes insane?
SPEAKER_03:I've also never seen anyone cut pizza with a knife after they get it. I mean, I guess it probably wasn't cut all the way.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Well, I don't know. I don't know what 1980s pizza was like, but maybe they didn't pizza cut it.
SPEAKER_03:It'd be great if she had one of those huge long tables and she's got like the candelabra and all like beauty and the beast style table settings. Just be like, ooh, fancy. As a college kid, I never thought this would happen. Drink Fego out of a wine glass. Yeah, it's good.
SPEAKER_02:Orange crush. Um so yeah, there's something wrong with the pizza. It tastes bad like it did earlier in the movie. So Samantha gets some water and hears strange noises coming from the sink. Man, that's when I'll be like, I could probably just like I thought she was tripping balls. Yeah, it's uh maybe she is. Maybe she is shrugged up pizza. Um she goes back upstairs to listen around and listens to the sink in the bathtub bathroom. And then when she checks the bathtub to see if it's the one that's making noise, too.
SPEAKER_01:It's full of hair.
SPEAKER_02:It's so gross. She then hears a noise and goes to see what the noise was in the attic. But before sh but before she opens the door at midnight, all the lights in the house blow out. Samantha sees a hand open the attic door and she passes out due to the drugs in the pizza.
SPEAKER_01:All right.
SPEAKER_02:And fear. Here comes the fun. Maybe it's just the fear. So then all of a sudden it like cuts to black, and there's like the screen is almost pulsing like with uh visuals, it's like flickering. Uh we see like the moon is red and it's like pulsing. We see shots of her like tied and like something in her mouth, and it's like dingy dark room with like a grayish light on her, and it's just like pulsing. And then she wakes and it's like it's like ah, it's so fun. Love it. Uh, she's gagged and tied to a slab in the basement surrounded by satanic satanic symbols. So, like, pretty cool. Yeah, it's fucking would you be like, Do you ever wish like, man, why couldn't this happen to me once? No, don't, but like it's still pretty cool. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I think it's also like super ridiculous how everyone is like in robes.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it just like it merely comes out.
SPEAKER_03:And then like sloths, grandma's there. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:There you go.
SPEAKER_02:All right. So I'm gonna talk about the their plan, right? To do all this, like everything that happened to get on it. So the old people probably what drove just like down the road a little bit and like parked, and then it's like was just waiting for Victor to be like, all right, deliver the pizza, and then she's gonna pass out. Hopefully she doesn't go in the attic. Oh, she's about to. Well, let's cut the power. And then hope she passes out then before she sees the demonic creature, I'm sure, that's about to come out of the attic.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, what if you just she was down to the basement first?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Exactly.
SPEAKER_03:I guess so. Whatever.
SPEAKER_02:But I guess he's technically supposed to be watching her the whole time outside of the house. Um, yeah, I'm just curious if you think like the whole plotting and everything works. Because I did look up like what some people say, and some people are like, the plot makes no sense. Like, how are these old people gonna do anything? I'm like, well, they have the young guy, and I'm sure if she tried to run, he was gonna knock her out or something.
SPEAKER_03:And I feel like they put the young guy in charge of everything, even tying her up, and he just had that one up. He just had like the dummy's guide to rituals. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:It's like, I don't know, like, let's draw a circle, put a star in it, I don't know, some fancy symbols, and then uh what do you think? Uh a Windsor knot? Uh what are we thinking?
SPEAKER_03:Maybe like should I double knot it?
SPEAKER_02:Like, I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:Let's use some of that string we use to tie up hay bales.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Yeah, for real. Like those knots, like impossible. Just about so the Ullmans, including their son Victor, and a dwarfish demon woman? I'm assuming that's supposed to be a demon, or it's just like a lady. Yeah. Um demon draws a pentagram on Samantha's belly and then like brings out like this like kind of deformed, like small, uh, kind of look like a uh cow head almost. Yeah, it's like a deer skull or something. Yeah, something like that. But it's kind of like small and like a little deformed on the front or something. Um and so she like cuts her own, like the demon woman or whatever, cuts herself and like pours it into the skull and then like tips it over and it comes out of like the mouth of the demon to her, and she's like bleh, it comes hair. And then Samantha breaks free pretty easily. Maybe, maybe a couple more restraints or something.
SPEAKER_03:I know, and then she gets up and and the the guy is standing there like, Hey, where are you going? Hey, where does she go? He just like steps aside while she runs away. He's like, Oh man.
SPEAKER_02:He's like, I I can't do anything about this, I'm older.
SPEAKER_03:This wasn't supposed to happen.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, he like scratches the demon woman when she gets up, stabs the older man in the stomach with a knife, and like Victor tries to get her, and he like pokes his eye and his. She thumbs his eye over in it.
SPEAKER_03:Like, ah these are they're so shitty at this point.
SPEAKER_02:They really did not think that she was gonna be able to get out of those restreats.
SPEAKER_03:They were not prepared for anything. The evil grandma lady who's like really regretted putting the grandson in charge of the same thing.
SPEAKER_02:Um and then, like, after pushing the eye, she rushes upstairs and then she immediately slips in like a giant puddle of blood and sees Megan's body in the kitchen. That was fucking awesome. And she's like, Megan, and I'm like, how can you tell? You can't. The clothes, I'm assuming. Uh Samantha grabs a knife, Victor chases her and shoots her in the shoulder, and it's like, fuck. But then, like, as he gets closer, she she slits his throat, killing him. Now she's like completely covered in blood. It's like, hell yeah, what a smart thing. But the woman in white, cover in blood.
SPEAKER_03:Also, it was funny. I thought the the sun was gonna uh slip in the blood. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I'm so glad we did the same thing. That was great. Um, so Samantha is is like just kind of going crazy. She's like hallucinating essentially, and she's also like got a ton of abdominal pain. She's getting flashes of demonic faces. That was cool. Um, yeah, and it's just like the lady that we see. Um, Mrs. Ullman corners her in a bedroom after she sees Victor dead, and he's like, You bitch, I hope this baby just riffs out of your stomach.
SPEAKER_03:So did she say that? About the did we know that she had a baby?
SPEAKER_02:No, but you know, drawing a pentagram on her or something, and she's having an abdominal attack.
SPEAKER_03:I I just I thought maybe I didn't really know for sure at that point, but like I just thought it was weird.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I mean, like, technically we don't know yet, but uh, you know, by the end.
SPEAKER_03:And then like, what's what why are they and then this is the part where you kind of get some insight in why they're doing any of this. Because the the mom is looking out the window and she's like, Yeah, because she he she thinks like the devil's calling her through the eclipse.
SPEAKER_02:She takes off her wig, which I'm assuming was like the hair in the tub, I'm assuming was the hair of the people that live there, and she like made a wig so she looked normal. That's yucky. I'm like, I'm curious, like as if maybe the like they do kind of like the ritual, the movie we did last week. Yeah. Where it's like maybe like the devil's keeping them alive through their older age, and that's like maybe that's what like the the demon demonic looking woman or whatever was maybe she's like hundreds of years old or something. I don't know, something fun like that.
SPEAKER_03:That's pretty cool. I thought maybe because she says like talk to me, boy, or something. Didn't she say something like that? Like talk to me, son, or uh yeah, yeah, to like outside, like yeah what isn't it like Lord?
SPEAKER_02:She said Lord up here.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Um Jesus.
SPEAKER_02:But yeah, so she she corners her in the bedroom, tells her that it's too late for Samantha to alter the plan. Ulman, she is distracted when she believes that the eclipse is sending her a message from Satan. Who who doesn't? And is uh revealed to be bold. It's eclipse without you all. Hey, it's just the devil. Uh just check it in, see how you do it. By the way, thank you for all those sacrifices. Oh gosh. I just love gifts. By the way, I've just it's been so long since I've had a baby. Could you please, baby, just let me have a girl?
SPEAKER_03:Let me pick up some clarity. The devil's such an incel, dude.
SPEAKER_02:Like, he's such an incel. He doesn't even want to like have sex and have a baby. Um, but yeah, so while she's staring and staying staring out the window, Samantha comes up and stabs her right in the back and it's like, these people.
SPEAKER_03:This girl rules.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. And then grabbing Victor's gun, Samantha flees from the house. Now her white dress, nearly completely red from blood. She's pursued by Ullman, who was wounded when Samantha escaped from the basement. Oh, yeah, it was the basement. Yeah. So they put her in the basement, and that's where they did the ritual. My bad. So he tries to calm her down and tells her that Satan will arrive as soon as the eclipse is over, believing it to be the only solution. Samantha turns the gun away from him and on herself. Yes, that was awesome. Oh, yeah, uh, don't blame her. Taking me alive. It's like, oh, so you put a devil baby in me? Well, I'll just die. Right? Take my chances on the other side. But then at the same time, right? It's like, oh, so the devil's real. So I probably shouldn't shoot myself. Because you know they say in the Bible, if you kill yourself, you go to hell. But then at the same time, shoot yourself, you're like, Well, I'm actually kind of saving the planet. Yeah. Because I kill the devil at the same time.
SPEAKER_03:Like, you never think she has any of this in her to do this.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And she's just goes balls to the wall.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. It's kind of I got a little bit of that in the point. She kicks so much ass. Yeah, she's just like, no, I don't want to die today. And then it's like, oh, well, I have to now, so uh otherwise I will have a demon spawn coming out of me soon. And I'm sure it's not gonna come out easily.
SPEAKER_03:Fucking hate kids.
SPEAKER_02:It's like, I've always wanted to have a baby, but not a baby with horns. So we cut to the local newscasters, talk about how the astronomers are confused that the moon seemed to move through the eclipse more quickly than it should have. Some then we see like we see the camera going through like the halls of a hospital. Samantha lays comatose in a hospital bed, but the nurse says that she and her baby are expected to make a full recovery.
SPEAKER_03:After a headshot.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, she's pregnant.
unknown:Gosh.
SPEAKER_02:That's so sweet. She's gonna be like a great mother. Nothing's bad's ever gonna happen to that baby. No.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, it's how you raise, it's the environment you raise the baby in.
SPEAKER_02:I guess maybe like she shot and just like completely missed. Like maybe she shot under her brain.
SPEAKER_03:You know? Failure. Yeah. Maybe it was a bad bad bullet. You always need to shoot yourself in the heart if you really want to die. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:You gotta double tap yourself, man. And once you shoot yourself in the head, try to wake up and do it. It's a little harder. Yeah. Um, but yeah, so you know, shit, devil be out there, man.
SPEAKER_03:83. That devil's probably guys in his early 30s now. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So uh, what'd you think of the ending?
SPEAKER_03:Like, or no, he's 40s. And yeah, I thought it was good. I thought it was really cool. Yeah. It sucks for her. Yeah, it really does suck.
SPEAKER_02:It's because I remember the first time I because when I first watched it, I didn't think I didn't know there was gonna be like a baby. I thought it was just like, oh, she's like gonna be poss become possessed or possessed by the devil. And then it's like, oh, she's having a baby. And it's like, this is a Damien situation here. Oh no. But yeah, like it's a great I love this whole this whole ending sequence. It's so baddie, it's great. It's like, oh yeah, this was kind of like a pretty logical and like uh straightforward movie, and then it says, not so fast, y'all. We're into it. Hell yeah. So, Jason, what's the point of the movie?
SPEAKER_05:Hmm.
SPEAKER_03:You know, I had it a second ago.
SPEAKER_02:Stuff being a babysitter in the 80s, you know. You're either gonna get gonna get killed by a serial killer or you know, satanic satanic panic. Periods make girls unclean, I guess. Brain bears, I don't know. Um, also, it's just like it's fun. It's like, what if the satanic panic was real?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that is pretty cool.
SPEAKER_02:Except I didn't see anybody saying that they are flushing people down the toilets, which is what they like. I thought that that was happening. Well, that's like that's what, like, because you know, like during the satanic panic, you know, they were interviewing these kids alone. Oh. And like, you know, they're just coming up with crazy shit that these like their parents or dads were doing. And like, so one of the things was like what kid was literally like, yes, they have kids and they're flushing them down the toilets, and they're like, Hell yeah, the cops are like, Okay, well, we wanted you to say something, but we didn't want you to say something that silly. You're an idiot. How about they did something different? You know, just leading these kids to say whatever they want to hear because you know, uh, people are fucking crazy. And uh, hey, also they're still kind of crazy. Um, but also I think it's kind of like the corruption of innocence. I think the white dress becoming completely tainted with blood is kind of a statement about like, oh, as you get older as a woman or a man, things get harder and you become more like I wouldn't say corrupt, but like shit, fucking life hits you. I think that's kind of what it's mostly about.
SPEAKER_03:No, that only happens to women.
SPEAKER_02:That is true.
SPEAKER_03:It just gets easier for men.
SPEAKER_02:For guys who are just like, oh now we got a wife, cool, everything's gonna be easier around the house now. Don't have to do anything but sit around and watch football. No, but uh, yeah, I just think that's what it's uh probably the main focus is, you know. She was just like, la la la la. I'm innocent. I'm tired of living with like my friend that is constantly having sex. I just want to be alone and happy. And then it's like to get that well, shit, yeah. Paper, you know. You gotta get that paper, you become corrupt.
SPEAKER_03:Hell yeah, get that paper. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Also, I kind of think that's what like most horror movies are about, like the corruption of innocence. That's why there's always like a final girl that's a virgin, you know. Oh man. Yeah, I'm gonna do it. So this movie says nothing about her being like a virgin or anything, she just seems like a normal, quiet girl. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that's pretty cool.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. So, and I want to hear what you guys think the point of the movie is. Let me know. Already told you everything at the top. Girls shouldn't go to college. Yeah. So now we're gonna hit our our next category: good, bad, ugly, the fine. It's where we discussed the good of the film. Something we liked. A scene aspect of filming, you know, whatever. The bad, something we didn't like, a slicine, you know, everything with a good, but it'd be a bad. Um, the ugly, something that didn't age well, the fine, something that did age well. For the good, Jason, what did you pick?
SPEAKER_03:The moment that Megan got her fucking face shot off. That was awesome. That was my favorite part. Yeah, it was just what woke me up.
SPEAKER_02:I was like, holy shit. It's like, okay. Hey guy. Pretty dramatic. Yeah, that is uh, I think that whenever most people like I say, Hey, have you seen the House of the Devil? Oh, that's the movie where the girl gets her face blown off in the car. I'm like, you don't remember the demon, the whole devil thing at the end. No, I know, but like that is the first like bam moment. Yeah. Um, I put, I had a feeling that you were gonna say that, so I did leave that one out of my kids. Um, I put uh the aesthetic of the film. Oh, yeah. Uh, it's comforting, like the slow pacing, the old movie vibes. Cause it's like I that's a lot of the movies I had to watch growing up because we had old VHS tapes. So it was either 90s, 80s, or 70s movies that were just like slow and just kind of it's kind of cozy. This movie is weirdly cozy for me. Her walking around this old house, I'm like, man, I could just take a hell of a nap. It's fun. Except not on the couches that they the furniture they had looked very uncomfortable. But it's old furniture. You're not supposed to be sitting all day here. I would have been playing pool. Oh, yeah. Like as soon as I found out there's a pool room, I'd be like, can I play pool? Right. Because that's what that's what I'm doing for four hours while you're gone. Um, but yeah, also just like the slow burn uh heading towards like a bombastic ending. Oh, it was really great. That's the movies I love, baby. It's great. And uh the lead. Um shit, forgot her name. Uh, but she does a fantastic job in this movie. I thought so too. Yeah. Everybody's pretty good in this movie. Um Tom Noonan, that's the Mr. Ullman. He's great at being creepy. Uh it's Jocelyn Donahue. Um, what else has she been in? She's great. Um, she's in Doctor's Sleep. That's what And she's in Insidious Chapter 2. Yeah, she's in a few good movies. Not a lot more than that, though. Um but yeah, she's great in this movie. Um Yeah, so what do you got for the bad?
SPEAKER_03:Uh really just like the slow the beginning. You know, yeah. It's I mean, even though it was good, it it it was a little slow. And I just really you don't really have any And I guess is it Ty West prerogative to really like not give you a lot of information? Seems like it. 'Cause that's I was like, what why? Why are we doing why are we doing this?
SPEAKER_02:I guess. Oh, like why are they doing what they're doing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I think it's just one of those things where it's like, hey, on the eclipse, I just assume, just because it happens during the eclipse, during the eclipse, there is no moon, there's no light, right? So it's the time where the devil can come out. And it's like the damn, we got like a bunch of different devils. But yeah, I just assume that it's like, oh, maybe it's like the perfect time for like a type of ritual.
SPEAKER_00:It's me, the devil. You'll never find me, it's too dark out.
SPEAKER_02:And I guess the the moon's turning red, so it's a devil moon, blood moon, whatever, you know. Cause right, wasn't there like that one like lunar eclipse or like blood moon that was gonna happen where the moon was gonna turn red, and people thought, like, this was like a couple few years ago or whatever, maybe it was during COVID or something, and like their moon was gonna turn red, and like I always just remember people like on Facebook being like, Oh the rapture?
SPEAKER_01:They say that oh, there's like a conspiracy that this is gonna happen, and it's like it's just like how the fucking universe works, but okay. I'm sure you got that nailed down pretty tight. Because everybody after you who said the world's gonna end was totally right.
SPEAKER_02:So annoying. Um, but yeah, for the bad, I also put maybe too slow for some people, or maybe the ending is a little too wacky. I those are complaints I've seen. Like, some people are like, too slow, but I love the ending. Uh, love the slow pacing ending was too wacky. I'm like, can't satisfy anything. I kind of like the wackiness. Yeah, the wackiness was great. It's a demon movie. It's always gonna be wacky.
SPEAKER_03:Was his name Peter? Like, he was a little wacky. Yeah, he's was that the brother, the but the son? Victor. Victor. Victor.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:He's he's in a I liked him a lot.
SPEAKER_02:I think he, I think he's in the uh VHS, one of the VHSs. Um he's also in a movie called Your Next, which is directed by Adam Wingard, who you did, you know, the Godzilla movies, most recent Godzilla movies, and he's in he's uh also a shitty guy in your next. So it's fun. Um for the ugly, I got like uh, I don't know, man, like uh just like do better at restraining her. Make better pizza. I don't know. Do better restraints. Yeah. You know, it really is the only part where I'm like, she got away that fucking easy, guys. Come on, man. I know you're kind of dealing with a demon woman that looks like she could be a hundred years old, she just and then two old people. That look like they're close to a hundred years old. And then it's like you, hey, Victor, you kind of got to jump at the opportunity here a little faster.
SPEAKER_03:I wish they would have had the demon lady just like holding her forehead going, Oh, you had one job. I was gonna do everything else for you.
SPEAKER_02:And they never she didn't kill the demon lady. She just scratched her head face, so that like lady's still out there. She's still out there. Yeah. Cool. Um, so the fine. Uh oh wait, what was your ugly? That was mine. Uh I don't know. I didn't really have any ugly. I mean, other than just like the one thing. Um it's pretty pretty good movie. Yeah. I thought it was yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Um pretty good. Um so what do you got for the fine? What aged well? Uh cult. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Uh sacrifice. Yeah, it seems like uh cults, cults seem pretty easy to do these days, you know? So like everyone's got a cult where we're constantly hearing about a new cult. They're almost like never about but they're never as cool. They're never satanic cults, which is like what we're constantly people were worried about. It's always like some person using God for their cult. And it's like, you know, it's kind of weird how no one's ever like, yeah, we had a satanic cult and everybody died. It's always like we had a cult and like God told us to kill each other ourselves. And it's like, good, it's kind of weird how it's always backwards.
SPEAKER_03:Good for you guys.
SPEAKER_02:It's like every cult, like big cult that you hear that like everybody died on this compound. It's like, what did they believe in God? And it's like, weird how that's always the one that's killing everybody in this most satanic cults are like, dude, we wear robes half the time and we have sex. It's like weird how it's always like this one just seems to be having fun all the time. The other one, y'all seem way too stressed out all the time. Just drinking flavor aid and shit.
SPEAKER_03:Oh no.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that was kind of Jones. It's kind of like always like a funny thing that I think about in cults. It's like it's always the cults about God and Jesus that are like, or you know, like, because usually half the time the people that start those cults are like, I'm actually God and Jesus. And it's just like, give me your money, guys. That's probably if Jesus ever came down, it's probably not gonna be this person from a trailer park. But it could. But I just feel like probably not, dog.
SPEAKER_03:Praise white Jesus.
SPEAKER_02:Like, I'm pretty sure in the Bible it says like if he comes down, there'll be like horns and people will like kneel, like everybody would just be to their knees. Like, did y'all not read that? Like, that's like the main thing y'all should read is the Bible if you believe in God. Um, my fine, sorry. Um, it's just like I listen to so many like cult podcasts, I'm like, I mean, there's like a whole book that tells y'all how a God comes back and who like the talks to him. Like, you guys can't you guys can't keep falling for this stuff. But, anyways, so the fine Ty West is back, baby. X, Pearl, Maxine. Guy disappeared from a while, and he's back, he's making great movies. Even though I bought Maxine, I've still yet to watch it for like a year and a half now. Seen uh X and Pearl, they're both really great. Um, but yeah, uh, it's funny because like he made this movie and then he kind of like perfected his craft and then made X. He did the Sacrament between this and House uh X, but like he does a lot of the same things in X that he does here, a lot of slow pans, a lot of slow zooms, you know, it's very slow pacing like this. Then but instead of waiting for the last five minutes to do the wackiness, it starts pretty much halfway through X, where it's like, oh, old. That's kind of what I expected. Yeah, and this one he like really draws it out, but X is also a little bit longer, so and there's more bodies to be dead.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Um, also all the old techniques from the past to make horror movies. Um, I love when directors do that because sometimes I just think uh we used to make movies better. We did. Yeah. Movies just used to be even like the bad ones um looked like movies, unlike now where the bad movies look like doo-doo poo-poo. Doo-doo poo-poo. Right, you can tell when you're watching a bad movie now, it's like, uh, this looks like no production versus older movies, it's like just the grain of the film and stuff. It's like at least it feels like someone had to put film in a camera, you know, instead of I turned my phone off.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, right. I was gonna say they turn the filter hit the filter button on their phone. Yeah, it's like held it in front.
SPEAKER_02:What if we put made everybody have cat faces on this one? Yeah. All right, so that's that category. We're gonna hit up our next category, uh, which is called Double Feature. It's where we recommend a movie to go alongside this movie. Um, what do you got for yours?
SPEAKER_03:Uh I wasn't gonna say, but I am another wacky uh satanic panic movie, uh The Craft. Yeah. Hell yeah. I used to love it as a kid because I thought goth girls are hot. I still think goth girls are hot. It's great. But uh yeah, the sharks watch it up on the beach. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Witches doing witchy stuff. Oh, and it's such a fucking 90s banger, dude. Oh, it's just like, you know, it's just like some fucking 40-year-old, like, edgy college girls. And it's just, you know. It's completely ridiculous. It's just like what people who grew up during the satanic panic thought people that would be witches would be like. Uh, because it's got what's her name? Um Freyuza Balk? Is that wait the the Chiban? Nancy Down. Wait, which what's your black hair? Yeah, it's that's the girl with like the big old mouth in it. Yeah, yeah. And the piercings. Um, and she's like, you know, the edgiest of them all. Yeah, and it's like, I don't know, it's just kind of perfect. But really, it's got it's a fucking banger of a cast. Uh you got her, Nev Campbell, Skeet Ulrich. I mean, it's practically the fucking screen cast here.
SPEAKER_03:All my the girlfriends in uh middle school had the out the soundtrack.
SPEAKER_02:Really? Yeah. Yeah, my wife loves that movie, and it's it's like I think that was actually the no, I definitely watched it as a kid, but uh re-watched it and like I feel bad because it's so silly, but I do like it that I can't shut up about how silly it is when I watch it. It kind of reminds me of um cruel intentions, yeah. Like I watched that a lot too. Um I remember coming home one time and like Natalie was watching Cruel Intentions, but I guess I was just kind of in a talkative mood, and I just kind of kept like poking fun at the movie, and she's like, We shut up. And it's like I can't help. There's just something about those movies where I'm just like, they're so good, but I have to talk about how ridiculous they are.
SPEAKER_03:I used to love how she did cocaine out of a tiny little spoon. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, that's don't you you have your cocaine spoon, right?
SPEAKER_03:I have a I did have one, but it was for uh pipe tobacco. Yeah, smoking a pipe, not for cocaine. Those is good. It came on a little tool ring from a pipe. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Um my turn. I'm the one that now has to say a double feature. It's funny because this double feature is actually gonna play into our next movie. So I am doing a move, I'm doing a double feature called The Black Coat's Daughter. Bum bum bum. So during winter break, two students stay in an all-girls boarding school in the company of a terrifying presence. Essentially, it's two girls and uh demonic shit might start happening. It's slow burn, it's such a good slow burn movie, and it's just kind of one of those things, but it has uh Emma Roberts in it um and Kieran Ashka, who I think is the one that became Sabrina, the new Sabrina. Wow, yeah, she's in it, I think is who she is. It's got James Remar in it. It's great. Um, and it's just kind of this fun slow burn movie directed by Osgood Perkins. Do you want to know what Osgood Perkins did? What? He fucking did long legs. Really? Which, by the way, guys, for our next movie, we're doing fucking long legs, baby.
SPEAKER_00:I forgot to put my long legs on.
SPEAKER_02:I have no idea what that means, and I can't wait to find out. No idea what that means. Um yeah, Osgood Perkins, he was uh he's a direct. Well, he's most known to actually being an actor. He's like in Legally Blonde in a bunch of like early movies, um, 2000s and 90s movies.
SPEAKER_03:Legally blonde.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Um he's in a couple of episodes of like Alias and did a bunch of like TV work, um, and then started directing. Uh, he's actually in Nope, too. He's Finn Bachman, whoever that is, in Nope. But um, yeah, long legs is the movie we're doing next, because we're still in this, we're not even in October yet, but well, actually, I guess when this will be released, we're in October. But yeah, uh, we're gonna do some fun long legs business.
SPEAKER_03:Um it kind of sounds like you're joking. Nope.
SPEAKER_02:And I have no idea what you're what any of this means. Bro, you're gonna be like, wow, he put his long legs on. It's like, you know what? Nick Cage's face looks crazy. Guess what? Long leg's face look crazier. Yeah, it's great. I'm so happy that you haven't seen it so we can do this. He also did a movie recently called The Monkey. It's kind of more of like a horror comedy. Uh me and Allie are eventually gonna watch it, especially when it turns October. Because guys, like you're gonna be hearing this in October, but it's only what like September 19th here, so fun. All right, yeah, so join us next week for long legs. And I hope I don't think Dakota wanted to do this movie. I'm gonna feel really bad if he did, but what can I say? Only got a couple days to record these things, you know, man. Um, all right, join us next week for long legs. Um, hey, leave us some fan mail, dude. I told you up top, you know, whenever it's like, hey, tell us what the point is, you can just do all the same things there. And you just be like, hey, hey guys. Also, leave us some reviews. It seems like we also got another new listener. Yay! Damn, dude, we are crushing. Um, we are slowly gonna get a hundred followers. We're gonna be like, we'll finally get a hundred followers and be like, I'm out of movies. Oh no, no, we've been used for 10 years. There's it's it's it's kind of a difficult thing to pick what movie to do. It's so weird because you know, we're just gonna keep doing it, so we can just pick whatever you want because you eventually can just keep doing it. But it's just like, is there gonna be a movie? It's like because you also kind of gotta be like, am I gonna be in the mood to talk about that movie? Yeah, it's like some of the ones like, especially like the ritual in the house of the devil, I was like, I love those movies, but I'm like, can I do a podcast over that movie? And then I watch it and I'm like, hell yeah, I can do a podcast over any movie. What am I talking about? So it's yeah, anyway. But yeah, so uh leave us a review, right? Um like, well, stop uh, you know, just dragging on and then uh maybe I will. Um, I'd like to thank Joey Prosser for our intro and outro music. You can follow him on X at Mr. Joey Proster, and well, this has been the We Recommend Podcast. I'm Jesse.
SPEAKER_03:I'm Jay.
SPEAKER_02:You know, just because you're rich doesn't mean you're normal. Bye!
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