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The Wicker Man (1973)
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A joyful song, a missing girl, and a village that never stops smiling—until the flames rise. We head to Summerisle for a spirited, scene-by-scene dive into The Wicker Man, exploring how folk ritual, music, and community turn a simple investigation into a study of belief and power. We talk first impressions, why the soundtrack feels playful instead of ominous, and how that choice keeps the horror at bay until the final minutes. Then we walk the full arc: the maypole lesson, the graveyard rites, the class beetle trick, and Lord Summerisle’s velvet-gloved debate that makes Howie’s certainty wobble without ever blinking.
Christopher Lee’s performance gets the spotlight—equal parts gracious host and high priest—while Edward Woodward channels a man built from rules and bracing for sin. We unpack the infamous May Day sequence: hand-made masks, the sword-star “execution,” the hobby horse chase, and the reveal that flips victimhood on its head. The conversation tackles whether the ritual “works,” how folk horror replaces jump scares with social consensus, and why an adult martyr becomes the “right” sacrifice when a community is cornered by failure. Along the way, we dig into production lore—lost negatives, competing cuts, and fall shoots dressed as spring—and how those constraints made Summerisle feel lived-in and unsettling.
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Hello and welcome to the We Recommend Podcast, a movie podcast where every week we recommend a movie for you to watch, and then come back here and listen to us discuss. I'm Jesse. I'm Jason. Do sit down, Sergeant. Shocks are so much better absorbed with the knees bent, cause this week we recommend the Wicker Man.
SPEAKER_01:1979? Three. Three. Yeah. I thought you were gonna go with the other Lord Summer Isle quote. Which one? There's so many good ones. Well, it's the one where he's like, get that ring of power. Yeah. Get those filthy hobbits.
SPEAKER_02:Is that what you think these British people sounded like? Yes, well. Sling blade? You know what I like? What I'm breastfeeding, a little egg. Well, there's an egg, there's a bird, and a feather, and a man. Yeah, I buried my grandma the other day in the backyard. Instead of putting her body in there, put a rabbit. Threw in some French fries taters just for her. Yes, this movie rules. This is a masterpiece. I love this movie. Yeah, I knew it. When I was watching it, I was like, I bet Jason's just like to every song. Just like that one song at the beginning where it just constantly is saying just saying barley like free to barley. Yeah. Whatever that means. And then just says it in a different way the next line. It's great. I was thinking, my first question was, what do you think of the film?
SPEAKER_01:So it was so good. And the uh about the music, it made everything so just comical, kind of in a way. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Because at first, you know, it's all weird, and we're supposed to think it's weird because they're like, oh, we're not doing Christian beliefs, they're doing weird things, and everything's kind of about sex in life, you know? And then it's just like it's like, okay. I love the I want the soundtrack. It's so strange. I it's it's such a great, it's like the ultimate folk horror movie. God, I kicked ass. And it's not even a horror movie till the last like five minutes. And then it's like, oh shit, that would suck. Which I wanted to say. Do you do you find the film scary? No. At any point until maybe the end? No, I just it was so good. Yeah. Do you like the ending? Yeah. It's pretty. Pretty metal or didn't have to punch a woman. He didn't have to punch a woman. That was great. Like, that's the thing. With the the wicker man, the Nick Cage one, you like you get why he's punching women, right? It's like everybody's so fucking frustrating. And he's all pent up with, you know, like he hasn't, you know, I'm assuming, ever, you know, came, come. I don't think he's ever come before. So, you know, he's probably got all that built up in him, just like, I'm ready to shoot a wad. Is he a virgin in that movie too? Oh, I don't remember. But like just comparing it to this movie, right? There's so many points that were if you were in his shoes, he'd be like, all right, y'all kill him. I'm about to start punching if you don't start answering questions, all right? Because they're all kind of like a little snooty too.
SPEAKER_01:Not one of these ladies deserved to be punched. Yeah, no, no.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, they're also sweet. I think the film does I wonder how this film was uh perceived as when it first came out. And I know that it wasn't um it didn't make like any money. It seemed like the producers didn't like it. They tried to barrow it bury it. It like Christopher Lee had to use his own money to go out and uh advertise for this movie and stuff like that. So it did make like I'm just wondering for the people who did watch it, did they think like, hell yeah, this was good, or did they perceive it as more like anti-Christian or more anti-pagan? Because when I was watching this, for the most part, I was never on his side, Howie's side. I'm like, dude, this ain't your land, brother. Like, you're just walking in there, I'm a cop, I can do whatever I want. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And like the whole time, I'm like, dude, shut up. You suck. But then at the end, I'm like, I don't know. He might actually have been in the right the whole time.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Because they never killed anybody. So for him. Until the end with him. Seemed like all the deaths were, you know, just animal sacrifices and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_01:Goofballs. Bunch of tricksy goofballs.
SPEAKER_02:And it's just like, I don't know. I mean, they seem like pretty chill and they're having a good time. Like, I don't know. Leave them to this island, let them be.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. They literally haven't hurt anybody.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Until you, you asshole. Though as we find out, you know, they manipulated him the whole time throughout the whole movie. So to get him to that point, yeah. It's pretty cool. Pretty great. They didn't then they never broke any laws. Yeah. I was just until the end. I just when I watched it, I was like, is this because I feel like there is a like I wonder what the motives of the filmmaker was.
SPEAKER_01:Well, and I think it's it's kind of the same as like Midsummer um Summer Al. Well no, the the sum the the movie Midsummer. Oh, Midsummer. Midsummer. It's kind of like that.
SPEAKER_02:I mean Yeah, where it's like you're just kind of the same movie. Oh yeah. Midsummer just took a lot from the wicker man. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I mean, I just thought it was an amazing idea. Yeah. It really makes me just want to be like pagan for a little bit. A little bit. Just hang out on this. I like their way of it. As long as it's a nice isle, nice warm island all year round. Just don't have a hot daughter. That's weird. Yeah, sure. You just have. But I mean, I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:Everybody sings about her.
SPEAKER_02:And they're but I guess you're in that era. It's like, I don't know, she can do whatever. Yeah, pretty cool, I guess. They're all just gonna like hump and stuff and party. Like where I was the most like hating Howie in this movie is when like they're all just kind of partying in the bar, and he's like, Do you have a license to do all this? And it's like, shut up, it's an island, nobody's complaining. Everybody's having fun, but you Howie. You don't like this because you're like, you have all this pent-up Christian guilt inside you, and you want everybody to do exactly what you want. Which is like what the movie is. It's like you're going to it's a man going to the others. Who are the others? What do they do? It's very much like that, which is in a lot of they do a lot of fun shit. Yeah. And then like, if you're unlucky, you might be the one guy.
SPEAKER_01:Have you ever jumped across naked or fire naked? No. I have. And it is a free. Did you really? Is it a free is a free moment.
SPEAKER_02:I was gonna say hang pretty. Is that it's like, ah, you don't really want to shave on them, so you just jump over fire and burn off a little bit. Same. Um so would you consider this the best folk horror movie ever?
SPEAKER_01:No. But it was really good. Yeah, yeah, it was great. I feel like a good folk horror is actually scary. I just I don't know, with all the whimsical music and stuff, it's just like there's no way maybe they thought it was scary in the 70s because it was different.
SPEAKER_02:That's that's exactly what I think it is. Like compared to like what you know, like Christian beliefs and stuff. This is like appalling. Kids learning about penises. Might as well teach them. They're gonna be wanting to use them very soon. It's funny, like how this movie can just like you know, this movie's still pretty relevant, you know. Summer uh Summer's Isle Manor is fucking awesome. I know it's just like a giant castle, it's so good. Whenever they walked up to it, and then they go inside and it's all nice and fancy, and there's two little pictures, one of some tomatoes, yeah, just like just a little Polaroid of tomatoes and some onions. And I'm like, those two pictures don't belong in this castle. I just assume Lord Summer Summer Isle is just like, this is my favorite two pictures I've ever taken.
SPEAKER_01:I get so hungry. Look at these. It's like they went to a thrift store and bought all the old paintings and just put them up in a uh house.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Some of my favorite stuff in this is just when someone there says something or how he sees something, and just his face and just how he's just because throughout the film getting more and like God's is like Hank heel. Oh just like more and more except until the point where he's angry.
SPEAKER_01:Um so um you weren't my son, I'd hug you.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I guess I already answered this, but I was gonna ask, like, pagan or Christianity, which one do you choose in this movie? Kidding? Yeah, because with the pagan religion, when the girl's just like banging on your wall naked, dancing against it.
SPEAKER_01:Hey, come to my room.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's just like you can just be like, I'm pagan, okay. Versus Christianity, you gotta whip yourself on the back 500 times, just be like, get the demons out.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, she put a spell on that dude. Yeah. It makes you think of this is the real hocus pocus. Yeah. This is the better hocus pocus.
SPEAKER_02:Hocus focus. Wiggle spell on him. Yeah. Right through the wall. Something I really like is there's so much directly looking at the camera in this movie because of like POV shots and stuff. Especially towards the end when he's going to like business to business to look around, there's like the bread busting in people's homes. Bread man coffin thing. Yeah. And like they're all showing off their little costume, and it's just like you're showing it straight to the camera. Like, that's when it all starts getting pretty eerie. And I will say, like, all their masks and stuff are kind of creepy because they're, you know, low uh, I don't know, not low rent, but you know, they're like handmade, so it's kind of creepy. Some of the fresh ones were like really really. My favorite was the Buffalo Head one. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:That one was rude. And I think some of these are some of this shit is actually real to this island, isn't it? Because they in the beginning of the movie, it's like thanks to the people of Summers Isle for letting us in on your like religion and shit.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I don't know if they filmed it directly. I mean, not filmed it there. But yeah, they get they got a lot, I mean they did some research.
SPEAKER_01:I feel like some of the people at the end, like there was some people showing off their masks. I feel like those are real aspects.
SPEAKER_02:And I was like, this there's something there, it made it kind of eerie because I was like, are these people in the film? Like, this should happen. Like what's happening. If it does, I want to go. I'm sure they didn't do the sacrifices. I mean, at some point, I'm sure back way back in the day, people did sacrifices.
SPEAKER_01:You think they have like a roped-off area for banging on outside? Like outside.
SPEAKER_02:It didn't seem like it mattered where you were. If you got a bang, you gotta bang.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I know, but like you have like one area that's like keep out the grass, and then the other one's like get it on.
SPEAKER_02:Stop having sex there. This is the good grass. Go over here.
SPEAKER_01:Move two yards over here. This is the sex grass.
SPEAKER_02:It's all lubed up, it's all so can't even cut it because there's so much lube.
SPEAKER_01:Guts of a mower.
SPEAKER_02:All right, so some of the facts. Um Christopher Lee said that he considers this to be his greatest role ever. That's amazing. Yeah, he's like, you know what, got to dress up as a woman, dance in the streets. But like, for real though, the performances in this movie, especially with Christopher Lee and um shit, forgot his name, Edward Woodard? Woodward? Perfect. Which one's Edward Wood uh Howie? Howie, okay. Yeah, the the two the two, I guess, main leads are great. They're so good. And that teacher. I thought everybody was really good.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, it's wild. Except for the only the only time I had a questioning about the actors was the very beginning when he rolls up in the plane and talking to the old guys. Oh, we're right and they're all smiling at each other, like, we're on camera.
SPEAKER_02:This is but I think you could look at it, especially once you get to the end, you can look at it as like, oh, they're all like shit in grins because they're like, We're gonna burn you alive, bro.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, that's true.
SPEAKER_02:I love those guys, though. They're just like, can't be here, dude. And they're all like, Wow, we don't know her, we don't know her. This is I don't know. I love those guys. So director Robin Hardy explained the meaning of the scene with the woman with an egg in her hand nursing a baby while sitting in a graveyard to Alan Cumming in Scotland on screen. Wearing to Hardy is a fertility ritual that she was hoping for another baby. No, but she already has one. So this movie, um yeah, so there is no like official version of this movie that the director is a hundred percent like okay with. So this the version we watch was the theatrical release, but there is a director's cut that's 99 minutes, and there's a final cut that's 94 minutes.
SPEAKER_01:Um, and I guess like extra five minutes, like mostly egg-based. I don't know what those are.
SPEAKER_02:I kind of looked up like a lot of the scenes and it's just a lot of little extra scenes. I guess the 94-minute version is supposed to be the best version. It was hard because I kept seeing people just watch theatrical, it's bit the best. So it's one of those movies where it seems like the director didn't get to really make the movie he 100% wanted to make. Um because there is there's supposed to be more to that scene where she scrap smashes the egg with her hand while breastfeeding. Yes. Um, so as filming occurred between October and November, there were no trees in blossom. The trees in the scene with the pregnant woman had to be brought in and were all handmade. Edward Wood or Woodward admitted one of the memories of filming that stuck out in his mind was watching the trees being brought in on the back of a truck as he had never seen anything like it. So yeah. Um, and there was like, I guess, another point where they had to film in a different location because they're like, well, we can either film in another location or handmake trees and like put glue blossoms and stuff on them because they're kind of running out of budget. And it's just like they filmed at the worst possible time. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:It was taking them forever.
SPEAKER_02:Um, and I guess the concept of the wicker man derives from the single sentence in the It's uh, you know, it's uh Julius Caesar esque word, but it comes out to be commentaries on the Gaelic War by Julius Caesar Caesar. He claimed that the druids of the Gauls built effigies out of sticks and placed living men inside, then set them on fire to pay tribute to gods. Caesar also claims that the men chosen uh were typically criminals or slaves. Modern historians have not been able to verify Caesar's account, and its veracity has been questioned. So, you know, like all this has just been like it's actually kind of just made up, I guess. Julius Caesar was like, we hate pagans, let's make them look crazy.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I don't know. I mean, I guess I can imagine him seeing this and then making it like his own opinions about it, but like I can't believe that anyone put inside of that thing was super happy about it. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Unless they're like completely brainwashed by their religion.
SPEAKER_00:Couldn't he just punch out of it?
SPEAKER_02:Yes. When I saw that door and I was like, hey, kick, have you ever thought about kicking that door made of sticks open? You ever think of that? Howie he could have fought a lot harder. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:He didn't fight pretty much.
SPEAKER_02:Um, this one's kind of funny. Um, so in a 2008 interview, director Robin Hardy said it wasn't Jane Jackson or Lorraine Peters, um, who they filmed nude for the from the back during Brit Eklund's infamous naked dance scene. Hell yeah. Since Eklund appeared topless but did not want to show her rear. It was a stripper he hired in Glasgow, Scotland that vaguely resembled resembled Eklund. He said, We had to find someone rather quickly. The girl we found in a club was promised back the next day to uh to the place where she was performing. To my distress, I discovered she was still with the crew having a good time two weeks later. Eklund said in an interview on BBC One's Friday night with Jonathan Ross that that's the story she heard too. I didn't want to show my bottom, but I shot myself in the foot. They put in the ugliest, biggest bottom in the world. Mine was much smaller and much nicer. I recently found out it was a stripper from Glassgloe. Eklund said she was less than pleased with her body double and wished she had felt confident enough to bear all she can find, confirmed that she was pregnant during the shoot with a son, Nikolai, but denied long-standing rumors that this was the real reason she refused to strip, claiming she did not know she was pregnant at the time. I'm just like, it's funny because you know, when I read that and then I was just kind of watching as I was looking for notes or uh facts, and I was like, but it doesn't look that ugly.
SPEAKER_01:She's not big. What are you talking about? The the concept of beauty in the 70s is insane.
SPEAKER_02:She's she almost looks exactly like your size, except maybe a little bigger down below. I didn't notice. Yeah, I didn't either. I was like, I I've seen this movie four or five times. I've never noticed that was a body double. Now watching it, you can tell by her hair more than you can tell by her butt. Yeah, I guess.
SPEAKER_01:I thought it was fine.
SPEAKER_02:It's a great butt. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Totally fine, butt. Yeah. I wish I had that.
SPEAKER_02:Stripper from Glasglow. Glasgow? Glow? Glasgow.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you know, she's like 80 now.
SPEAKER_02:Did a great job, lady. Yeah, you you danced against that wall the best you could have. We all appreciate your service. So uh Sir Christopher Leed paid his own press tour out of his own pocket, and he hit every stop in the U.S. willing to interview him about the movie. According to a rumor, some farmers in Iowa were surprised to see him on live early morning public access shows because that's how much he loved this movie and wanted to get it out. Wow. Because he just wanted everybody to see it, and nobody saw it. Yeah, because it's like, dude, you got lost. It's just corn there, man.
SPEAKER_01:I bet those farmers were real excited to see someone they didn't.
SPEAKER_02:Jesus Christ, Dracula's here.
SPEAKER_01:That's right.
SPEAKER_02:Everybody gets Dracula. People walking with their little pitchforks and fire. Um like, get rid of those sidebirds, and we're gonna burn this building too. So the current version available in the US and UK is still incomplete, despite its director's cut status, still missing, is a lengthy speech made by Lord Summer Isle on apples. There's a lot more speeches about and fruit. Yeah. Um, so it is rumored that the original negative, the full-length uh version was used as landfill in the construction of the M3 motorway in England. Sir Christopher Lee said that this was apparently done on purpose because Michael Dealey's dislike of the movie. Uh the negative and the outtakes of this movie were stored in a vault at Shepperton Studios after the company was purchased by new owners. They ordered the vault to be cleared of all old material. The vault manager accidentally put the negatives which just arrived from the live lab with the ones that were to be destroyed. Yeah, I'm sure. That's why there's so much of this movie where it's just like, I think there's more. But some people go up. Some people say that the um like the longer versions are like it makes him stay there longer for like an extra day, and it's just like it feels tighter and kind of more complete. Like May 2nd? Yeah, it's like as like eight well, no, I guess it's just like he's just there a little bit longer. Um, and some people say it's actually kind of better and it doesn't make it it doesn't make it any better to be longer. So that's what I really liked about this movie. I was like, this is like a perfect 89-minute movie.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it was awesome.
SPEAKER_02:It's like wow, you got everything across pretty well with just like four or five conversations, really. I I see no need that. And then one research thing.
SPEAKER_01:Commentary on apples for God's sakes.
SPEAKER_02:And I love that this kind of this movie kind of fits with a lot of the movies we did this week where it's like someone's investigating something and then there's a cult.
SPEAKER_01:You know what's awesome about apples? So it's apples.
SPEAKER_02:That's actually my favorite way to start a conversation. You know what something interesting about apples?
SPEAKER_01:Always thought, always wondered. My brother-in-law brought us some apples from Vermont because it's apple picking season, and like they're just flowing out the ears with apples up there. Yeah, and they're the best goddamn apples I've ever had in my fucking life.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And they're gone now. I should have brought you one. Yeah, that'd be great. I don't think about other people. Yeah, that makes sense. Uh they're just so delicious.
SPEAKER_02:I've never had an apple just like right off a tree, have you? Yes. Are they good? Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. I would love to have these are right off the tree apples. Like, I like mine to just stay in like Walmart for 20 to 30 days.
SPEAKER_01:Every other apple in the world is bullshit now. I I I'd compare every apple to the good ones, to the Vermont apples. Yes.
SPEAKER_02:This is not to Vermont apples. Get the dad in my face. This is an ad for Vermont. I only like Vermont.
SPEAKER_01:Me and Bernie Sanders went apple picking. It was amazing. You had to like put them on your shoulders. Like the guy at the bar. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:She's got like a cop from Brittany just be like, oh, I hate this shit. How dare he be on his shoulders? How dare they I sing and have a good time. So uh this is a little bit about a sequel that was written. So it never came to be. In 1989, it's called Burning Man. Yeah. Screenwriter Anthony Schaefer wrote a 30-page script treatment titled The Loathsome Lambton Worm, a direct sequel to this movie. For producer Lance W. Reynolds.
SPEAKER_00:First of all, that name sucks. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:It would have been a more fantastical in its subject matter than this movie and relied more heavily on visual effects. In this continuation of the story, which begins immediately after the ending of this movie, Sergeant Neil Howie is rescued from the Burning Wicker Man by a group of police officers from the mainland. Howie sets out to bring Lord Summer Isle and his pagan followers to justice, but becomes embroiled in a series of challenges which pit the old gods against his own Christian faith. Script culminates in a climactic battle between Howie and a fire-breathing dragon. Yes. The title Lambton Worm and ends with a suicidal Howie plunging to his death from a cliff while tied to two large eagles.
SPEAKER_01:That sounds metal as fuck.
SPEAKER_02:Schaefer's sequel was never produced, but his treatment, complete with illustrations, was eventually published in the companion book Inside the Wicker Man. Director Robin Hardy was not asked to direct the sequel and never read the script, as he did not like the idea of Howie surviving the sacrifice or the fact that the actors would have aged 20 to 30 years between the two movies. In May 2010, Hardy discussed the loathsome Lambden Worm. I know Tony did write that, but I don't think anyone particularly liked it, or it would have been made.
SPEAKER_01:It's time to revisit this idea.
SPEAKER_02:Different movie.
SPEAKER_01:You just said all the auras that I love so much. Like a fire breathing dragon? What? Plunging to your death, strapped to two eagles. Get out of it.
SPEAKER_02:It would have been fantastic if we did like a 50 years later re like sequel to the movie.
SPEAKER_01:Get this movie made.
SPEAKER_02:Donald, the money for the White House, put it into this movie. We need a big budget. Yeah, so that's pretty much all I got for the beginning. Should we hop into the plot? Yeah. But before we do, I want you to think as we're going through the plot, what is the point of the movie? What is the director trying to say? To me, this was actually a little bit kind of like I feel like I got my own point. I have no idea what like the writer and director were particularly trying to say because I couldn't tell if it was like more pro-Christian or more pro-pagan or anti-pagan or anti-Christian. It was very kind of tough. Or it was it kind of anti-both. I don't know. I'll tell you what I think at the end. So yeah. Um, and if you want to tell us what you think, uh you there's a link in the description, or at the very bottom, you can go to our email address. We recommend mailbag at gmail.com.
SPEAKER_01:All right. I'll tell you what I think right now. I love your kitty cat uh sweatshirt.
SPEAKER_02:It's not a kitty cat, it's uh fantastic Mr. Fox. It's the sun.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah, gotcha. It's on the case. I was like, what is it? Why does he have a sock on his head?
SPEAKER_02:It's my fall sweatshirt.
SPEAKER_01:It's amazing. Anyway.
SPEAKER_02:It's like I love wearing sweatshirts, and I love that character. So it's great.
SPEAKER_01:It's incredible.
SPEAKER_02:Jason, let's let's step on Summer Isle Island and meet the wicker man.
SPEAKER_01:I feel like we should play the the sound from a game show. Like what game show is that? A lot of game shows. The ones where they ask the questions to win a million dollars.
SPEAKER_02:Who wants to be a millionaire? Who wants to be a millionaire? Who wants to be a millionaire? They still have that show. It's hosted by Jimmy Kimmel, but now it's only done by celebrities. Only celebrities are allowed to make money for charities. That makes sense. Like all things now. Like Weakest Link, we were watching, it came back and had Jane Lynch, she's amazing, as the host. And it was like, I guess it wasn't getting good ratings. So, like, let's put celebrities in it instead. And it's like, can normal people make money off these shows, please? At least they're giving it to charity. Yeah, that's true. I'm charity. That's my stripper name. All right. So the lead is flying a plane while why some folk song plays. Barley. Some barney. Riggs of Barley. Oh, Sergeant Neil Howie lands on an island, and the people of the town say it's a private property, but he tells them, hey, motherfuckers, I'm a cop.
SPEAKER_01:They're like, get the fuck out of here.
SPEAKER_02:And he's like, technically, I'll arrest you. I'm gonna say that 500 more times. Uh tells him he's looking for a missing girl.
SPEAKER_03:Woo! Scary.
SPEAKER_02:So he received an anonymous letter requesting his presence on Summer Isle, a remote uh Herbidian Herbridian Island, famed for its popular and unusual abundant fruit produce produce.
SPEAKER_01:Famous for its apples.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. A young girl named Rowan Morrison has been missing for a number of months, and he received a letter from the mother. Um he asked the old men that he met at the docking, and that and they are a little off. They seem very off. They say she isn't from the island, but then they remember her mother, Mae Morrison, who does live on the island. He sets out to talk to her as he walks. Everybody pokes their head out of their houses and stares at him. And then he stops at Mae's candy shop.
SPEAKER_00:Slash post office. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:It's like, where the hell do they get all that candy, man? Oh, I love that. She bakes it all, I think. I was just like, geez Louise, how do any of them have teeth? I mean, they're only selling it to them. It doesn't seem like there's that many people.
SPEAKER_01:They've got free healthcare. Yeah, I think.
SPEAKER_02:Uh, I think the gods, the teeth god.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:It's like every year they pull out someone's tooth and bury it.
SPEAKER_01:That's why they had those pictures. Uh that's why the girl had that statue of an elephant in the ivory.
SPEAKER_02:Ah, there it is. So when he speaks to May, she says that Rowan is not her daughter because her daughter, Myrtle, is in the other room painting a hare. He talks to Murder and Mart Myrtle and asks about Rowan. Yes, Myrtle, if she knows Rowan. She says yes, and she runs and says that she runs in the field because she's a hare.
SPEAKER_01:I thought it was great when he was like, nice rabbits. And she's like, Don't fuck with her hairs.
SPEAKER_02:Damn hillbilly thing in this is a rabbit.
SPEAKER_01:David Attenborough's over there, like, yeah, I'm full.
SPEAKER_02:This is my home. Um, yeah, this place, uh, there's a lot of hair talk in this movie. They love hair. They love hair. Um, and I love that like myrtle or uh how he just like gets like right down next to her, gets a little paint on it, and he's like, This fucking child got pain on me.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, well, the days when you could leave your child alone with a police officer.
SPEAKER_02:Hey, what seems to be a Catholic police officer? So he goes to the Green Man Inn. When he enters, everybody stops talking and enjoying themselves. Love when this shit happens.
SPEAKER_01:How about the sign to the green man? It's great.
SPEAKER_02:And I had it in my notes, and I don't know where it's at, but it like the green man like stands for something in pagan religion.
SPEAKER_01:I know it's like when you play um beer drinking games, there's you can do the little green little green man. Yeah. It's something you have to take off of your beer before you drink.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, I didn't hear that.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know if that's that's anything. Maybe it does.
SPEAKER_02:Maybe it's like comes from the same like thing. Well, here remove my little green man here. Yeah. But I love whenever there's movies where like someone walks in, everybody stops talking. It's like an outsider. Yeah, the imagery is so good. And then like it should lead you to believe, like, oh, they're all kind of in on this together because they're all like, oh, I guess we gotta be quiet so we can hear what he's gonna say, so we can plan out the rest of our news.
SPEAKER_01:Well, it's probably the first police officer they've ever seen. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's true.
SPEAKER_01:It's like as well have the like the old West swinging doors where he walks in.
SPEAKER_02:It's a crap. Now we're not gonna be allowed to have sex outside in the grass.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, no, no, that's still happening. That's definitely happening.
SPEAKER_02:Um, so he's gonna be rooming at the Green Man Inn, where he is introduced to the beautiful young daughter of the landlord, Willow, and gets a nice little song sung to him. The landlord's daughter. It's essentially an entire group of men in a bar drinking, singing about we all want to boinker. Yes. If you're lucky, she'll show what's between her left foot and her right foot.
SPEAKER_01:I know, I love this those two old men.
SPEAKER_02:I was like, man, put them in the old man hall of fame. And they're doing their little swinging together and all that. Yeah, no, it seems like a good time. As long as they don't like rob me afterwards, that'd be nice. Yeah, they'll probably do that. I'd want to go to a pagan island where they're just like, yeah, we don't care, man. Just drink with us. Cool. Yeah, that'd be sick. Yeah. Um, Howie hates all this. He hates commotion and stops the fun to tell them that he's looking for Rowan. And everybody's like, We haven't seen her, dude. Already, already. Yeah. Then uh Howie notices a series of photographs celebrating the island's annual harvest adorning the wall. Of the bar with each photograph featuring a young girl, the May Queen. The last photograph is missing due to being broken. And apparently we'll learn no negatives exist.
SPEAKER_01:He's like, Oi, where's that one, eh?
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah, yeah. You sounded American, you seem like you were doing British, then you went Australia.
SPEAKER_01:It's eclectic.
SPEAKER_02:Neil doesn't like his meal and wants an apple, but they don't have an apple. And he's like, by God. No apples. This is like Apple Island. We uh transported them all, I guess. He's like, he's like, Do you want some like uh peaches and cream or something? And he's like, Yeah. And he's just like, he doesn't like these beans look weird, damn it. They're natural beans. Yeah. They all look weird. And it's like, he's being played. So he goes outside, sees people getting down to business, right outside in the field. Neil totally. I I don't think so. Maybe they didn't get it like a good enough shot, so they had to like prolong it or something. And maybe it's because it's dark out, the camera wasn't as good. I don't know. I don't know. But it was wild. Yeah. He was having a moment.
SPEAKER_03:And Neil's like that.
SPEAKER_02:He's like, thank you. And then uh he watches people water a grave and a naked girl crying at a headstone. Right. Water coming out everywhere. I love I like whatever's going on in this town. Yes, I want it. That's how I mourn. Just get naked and bend over. Man.
SPEAKER_00:How fun.
SPEAKER_02:So he goes back into the end and to his room. We see him praying and having flashbacks of his time at a Catholic church.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, his favorite uh what do you call that when you take the bread and the blood? Oh, uh uh communion. Yeah, his favorite communion, I guess.
SPEAKER_02:Yes. He's like uh completely freaked out because he's like, uh, dang it. Jesus no one feels guilty about anything here. Where's all the guilt? We're supposed to be scared all the time. Um so he struggles praying because it's too loud downstairs, and he is feeling tempted by Wheelow, came over to his door and is like, Sergeant, Mr. Sergeant, and then she goes to her room, starts hitting on the wall, and be like, have sex with me. But much beautiful of a song.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, the hey ho.
SPEAKER_02:Get out of the eat my pussy, and then she's like banging on the door, like just really getting down the wall. And Neil's just like biting his like hand, is like, oh, I want to hump the wall. Wild scene. Wild, wild, wild. It's great though. And this is where we kind of see the first time where like we have a character just straight up looking at us and singing or talking. Because like she it's the camera's outside of the window, it seems, and she's just directly singing to us like she's tempting us to come into her room. Yeah, I think it's very affecting.
SPEAKER_01:Um and it's like he was cracking her TV screen. What the fuck? Uh yeah, the little hole in my TV screen.
SPEAKER_02:I don't ask any questions. It was a lot easier when it was a box of TV. Now that there's flat screens, it's like there's very little pleasure in it. Um, I put it like this a weird but yet kind of sexy scene, and uh Neil looks like he's gonna die. Yeah. Like a boy's gonna burst at any second.
SPEAKER_01:It was cool when she went to the country. She had that little statue, and she went over and did like the hand, like kind of rubbed something off of it, and then she kind of held it and then like whooshed it outside. Yeah. Was that you think that was one of candles?
SPEAKER_02:That's what she was doing. Maybe that's like a pagan ritual when you're ready to have sex, you throw a candle outside.
SPEAKER_01:No, she was just like she scoops something like something invisible off of it, and she's like, Woo!
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Where she does that. Yeah, it's like, what is that? Energy? Aura? I don't know. It's just her scent. It's like, I wish there was a more detailed thing about like every single thing that was done in this movie where I wouldn't have to search for like eight hours to figure out everything. It's great, though.
SPEAKER_01:I love this lady.
SPEAKER_02:Um, so now that Neil uh uh blue balls is settled, he goes outside and sees more pagan traditions and songs. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So there's a there's a movie coming out soon. I think it might be a show based on Stephen King's book, The Long Walk. Yeah, it's a it's a movie. In the book, there's a kid who dies literally from getting blue balls.
SPEAKER_00:Really? Yes. What the fuck?
SPEAKER_01:You gotta check it out. I can't wait to watch it. I don't know if it's in the show.
SPEAKER_02:I doubt it's probably in the movie. Probably not, but that'd be wild. I'm excited to see that movie because it's got good reviews, and I'm like, so they walk? Yeah. It's a movie about walking.
SPEAKER_01:They have to walk at a certain speed, and if they slow down, the military shoots them in in the face.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and it's like, I can't wait to figure out anything about it because I have no idea what it's about. And I'm like, what's the movie? It's cool. They walk.
SPEAKER_01:It was cool.
SPEAKER_02:Um, so yeah, he goes, he sees more pagan traditions and songs. There's kids tied to a tree with a ribbon. Uh, it's a song about life and growing up. It's like you got a you got like uh there's a bird that has an egg. Yeah, it's like the lizard. There's a feather, and then there's a man, and or then there's oh, a feather, and that makes a bed, and then there's a man, and then there's a woman, and they lay on the bed, there's a seed, there's a boy, there's a man, there's a grave, and then there's a mate tree. Then kids run around the tree with a ribbon. Yeah, and they then they struggle with the bigger. This was my favorite song. It's a cool, yeah, it's a cool song. It was my favorite. I was like, hell yeah, this is a big thing.
SPEAKER_01:I love how musical this fucking movie is.
SPEAKER_02:I love it so much. I know it's such a celebration of like this of life and like the circle of life. And it's great.
SPEAKER_01:And it would all have been perfect if they didn't burn a man a lot of the kitchen. And then they put Timon and Puma in that Quickerman too. Yeah, and they're just like they're like, this is not a kuna matal.
SPEAKER_02:Where at we've just been eating fruit. We actually all love meat, so we're finding them. So he snoops in on a class uh where the girls are learning about the maypole, the boys are spinning around in the background. We learn that it's a phallic symbol. Neil definitely hates that. He talks to the teacher, he's like, I'm gonna report you, lady, to the authorities because you're teaching these kids wrong things. Yes. He's like, Well, they should probably learn it at some point. Yeah, they're just gonna grow up loving people. I mean, they're all about to want to have those urges, might as well teach them, right? I don't know. Instead of making them feel guilty about it and then they don't have proper sex and then they immediately, you know, you gotta feel angry your first time. That's a part of it. Though I guess like the thing that he's like having an issue with is like, you're just telling these kids to go bang each other all the time. And they're like, I don't know what you want from us, man.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, no, like I think it's uh it's good to teach uh kids about imagery. And you mean that's it's part of human existence. Yeah, everything's a penis, everything is boobs. Yeah. That's one of the lessons I learned in Afghanistan.
SPEAKER_03:It's true.
SPEAKER_01:Everything is shaped like penis and boobs.
SPEAKER_02:Oh gosh, I was just like, I don't really I don't know how to talk about this.
SPEAKER_01:It's okay. It's okay to feel upset.
SPEAKER_02:I'm not upset, I was just like, what? It's just boobs and penises. Just boobs and penises. That's what's in Afghanistan.
SPEAKER_01:No, no, no. No, I get it. No, I'm talking about on our military basis. No, yeah, I get it, I get it.
SPEAKER_02:I'm just messing. Um yeah, so uh he tells yeah, he tells the teacher that he's teaching them he's mad that he's teaching them about sex. He blames everybody for having a good time and being taught what valley symbols and what life is. Lame, such a loser. Yeah, go read a book. Have a drink. I don't know. Deal with the landlord's. I'm sure they got weed on that island. Just take one puff.
SPEAKER_01:That'd be awesome if that was their apples.
SPEAKER_02:They're actually probably more on acid or something. Probably got some weird acid acid mix with her.
SPEAKER_01:Some apple-based acid.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. So he talks to the kids next. He asks them about Rowan. They say they don't know her. He notices an empty deck, the teach desk. The teacher says no one sits there. Then he sees uh then he goes to that desk and he opens it up and he sees a beetle tied to a nail spinning in circles and gets and gets pissed again. I was with him on that one. This boy's pissed. All right, look, here's what I'm gonna say about this. Kids, yeah, well, they're because they're seeing what like the made a poll, so they're kind of replicating that with a bug, but also, you know, kids are little shitheads, right? They you know, kids love to destroy bugs. I know. It's like me throwing firecrackers and anthills growing up and like blowing up insects and stuff.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but that's awesome.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Well, so this was I actually when I saw this, I was like, these kids are kind of cool.
SPEAKER_01:It is kind of cool.
SPEAKER_02:I was like, wow, who would have thought of doing that? But then I'm like, well, you they have the imagery every time.
SPEAKER_01:You know, you know it like the weird girl that was over there, like she did.
SPEAKER_02:The weird girl's like, and then after it makes a goes around the pole two to ten times, I eat a wing or a leg. And it's like, all right, this girl actually might need some sort of uh different place to be. Um, and so yeah, he's just getting real pissed. He's like, you fucking devil. How dare you torture this beetle? Yeah. And then uh he asks for a list of students, and the teacher says he will need permission from Lord Summerlow, but he doesn't care and he takes it anyways. He's like, I am the law. Uh there he finds her name and he calls them all liars. You all should be ashamed of yourself. And it's like, fuck you. I wish one kid would have just said that. Go to your own home. Throw an egg at him. Yeah. You'll have birth on your face later. So the teacher speaks to him outside. She tells him that she has died, but to them, she just becomes trees and air and things like that. Neil asks why they don't learn about Christianity. She says it's easier for kids to understand reincarnation instead of resurrection. Then she tells him to check the churchyard for a grave, but it's not really a church anymore, as in there. Is no, like, you know, they don't believe in Christianity. Yeah. Um, I know I just like went through that pretty fast, but there's a lot of like really interesting things that she says and stuff like that. I really like yeah, no, yeah, she's great. What a great teacher. Yeah. Although maybe take care of that bug situation. Yeah, take care of the bug situation. Yeah. Like I will say, like, you know, like a little more authority would have been nice for a teacher, you know. It's like there seems to be like, it's like thinking about it, it's like, oh, I love how free and everybody's enjoying themselves. But it's like, what happens if there is crime? Like, are they just like, eh, whatever? Yeah, they just get rid of the evidence. Yeah. It's like, so it seems like there definitely is probably, you know, some weird stuff happening on that island. That probably isn't as fun as and great as we're like, yeah, love this island.
SPEAKER_01:It's probably like you do crime, you get sacrificed. Yeah. Like, all right. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't commit crime.
SPEAKER_02:I'll do the time. I'll come back as a devilish apple. Um, but yeah, so he goes to the graveyard to find a woman, breastfeeding while holding an egg. Lol. It's like, which he's like, so is this just like where everybody does it, or like just a breastfeeding area? Do you all have to like bring your own eggs or there's some eggs sitting here? Which is it?
SPEAKER_01:Government.
SPEAKER_02:Yes. Then he finds the grave and creates a cross to put upon it. Um he gets like really pissed off there's so much junk on this like one grave.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, like there were some apples in that basket.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, then he's like I'm gonna make a cross. And apparently, when the actor went back there, um, he uh he kind of just went back to see to the island to see some more of like, you know, just some of the locations and stuff that he saw. And that cross was still laying there. And I think it was like 20 years later. So no one moved that cross. I wouldn't either be like, hell yeah, that's uh that was in a movie. It's history, baby. So uh yeah, um, then he talks to a guy in the graveyard. Uh the guy tells him that uh the grave there, like that they're standing in front of, is Rowan's grave, and apparently he's planting trees on all the graves. That's awesome. And it also has the wee lass' navel string on the tree, because where else would you put it?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, a little beef jerky. Yeah, you know, it's like where it belongs. Yeah, though. It was so funny how he was confused.
SPEAKER_02:Uh Neil hates this. I keep I keep calling him Neil and Howie. It's Neil Howey, Sergeant Neil Howie. So if you get it.
SPEAKER_01:Where else would you put your nails draining more?
SPEAKER_02:And Howie's like, uh inside the body, underneath the earth. I want to kill everybody here. Um, so after discovering the grave, bearing Rowan's Morrison's name in the cemetery, he goes to the doctor where he says, where he sees a lady putting a frog in a girl's mouth to fix sore throat. How'd that make you feel, Jesse?
SPEAKER_03:Whoo, wee bro.
SPEAKER_02:That uh that I would just be like, you know what? I'll die from sore throat. It's like, no, thank you. Did it fix your sere throat? Uh no, it uh tightened my sphinxture. I was like, oh, it's clinching after he's all that. Um and I love it, like pulls the frog out, and it's like, oh, oh, we last. You see, you're gonna be all better soon. And the frog's like, Ribbit, ribbit. He's like, You see, it's already got your cough. It's like, well, yeah, now who's gonna what do you put in the frog's mouth to fix the frog's cough?
SPEAKER_01:Another tinier frog.
SPEAKER_02:And I love he goes in there, it's like um the woman's like, uh, do you need any assistance? Um, not from you, you're all raving mad. Such a good line. Uh so then act at the doctors, he asks for the death records, but the woman he says he needs permission from Lord Samaro, but he threatens her by arrest, saying he'll arrest her and sees no death certificate or Rowan. Um, so he goes to the chemist slash photographer, because you know, yeah, that's obviously like a small island. You gotta have to use chemicals to develop film. You're a chemist. Using the same chemicals. Everybody's got everybody's pulling double duty there.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and he's got the like Siamese twin sheep in there.
SPEAKER_02:It's like, well, you didn't know about the one uh like nurse lady putting a frog in the girl's mouth. It's like she's a nurse, but also she uh raises frogs, so she's like, I gotta make them both useful, you know? Hell yeah. It's like he's like, I'm a chemist, but also I also take pictures. I had to put them together. Um, so he asked about the missing pictures from the last harvest festival.
SPEAKER_01:Did you see the bottle full of foreskins? It was the first one that's gonna be.
SPEAKER_02:There's like foreskins, hearts, lungs, everything. And it's just like, Why are they circumcising? What type of chemistry is this?
SPEAKER_01:Why are they not Christians? Why are they circumcising?
SPEAKER_02:Uh uh. Maybe there's a lot of them that like came from the island or like off the island, and then they come there and they're circumcised because they were raised in Christian beliefs, and then or that. Well, so well, what we'll find out later is that um, you know, that there were Christians there. Yeah, that's why they all they all fled. So I'm sure they had some forescare. And they're just like, hey, this guy didn't leave. Let's get his forescare. Let's let's let's get his penis. So anyway, he goes to the chemist photographer, he asks for about the missing pictures from the last Harvest Festival. He doesn't have any copies of the of the picture, and the man doesn't know if it was Rowan or not. So how he continues around the island, finding more naked women doing pagan rituals and stone around stone and fire. It's like almost like Stonehenge looking thing. Yeah, it was a stone. It's the pregnancy ritual thing. That's where that rules. Yeah, and just got girls. There's like some girls that are in um uh like dresses, walking around uh and like I don't know, uh trees and like hugging the trees and like kissing apples or whatever, and some just jumping over fire naked. Hell yeah. So, how he search eventually brings him into my favorite part of the entire movie, into contact with the island's community leader, Laird and de facto figurehead Lord Summer Al. Fucking badass house. He's very calm and kind. He knew how he was looking for the girl, how he suspects murder, and asked for the body to be exhumed. Summer Al's like, cool. So yeah, do whatever you want, bro. Like, I don't know if you know this, but we're pretty chill. We're pretty chill. I got sideburns for days. Yeah. He says that nobody there would murder her because they are religious people. Howie goes off because he thinks their religion is dumb. So I have I have a whole list of things that I just want to say because this is my favorite part of the movie. Yeah, yeah. So Sergeant Howie, your lordship seems strangely unconcerned. Summeral. Well, I'm confident your suspicions are wrong, Sergeant. We do not commit murder here. We're deeply religious people. Sorry, Howie, religious or yeah, Howie, religious with ruined churches, no ministries, no priests, and children dancing naked. Summeral, they do love their divinity lessons. Yes. Howie, super outraged, but they are no naked. I thought he saw a ghost. Um, so somehow, naturally, it's much too dangerous to jump through the fire with your clothes on. Howie, what religion can possibly be learning jumping over bonfire? Summeroe, uh Parthenogenesis? Parthenogenesis. Yes, that. Howie, what? Literally, uh Summerlow, literally, as Miss Rose would doubtless say in her assidious way, reproduction without sexual union, Howie. Oh, what is all this? I mean, you've got fake biology, fake religion. Sir, have these children never heard of Jesus? Summeral, himself, the son of a virgin, impregnated, I believe, by a ghost. Um, and then Sorel, do sit down, surgeon. Shocks are so much better absorbed with knees bent. Then he explains those ways a bit more. They follow the old gods, and Howie does not like this, Howie. And what of the true God, whose glory, churches, and monasteries have been built on these islands of generations past. Now, sir, what of him? Lord Summeral, he's dead, can't complain. Had his chance, and in modern parlance, blew it. Yeah, hell yeah. Baron and Aaron. It's just like, I don't know, it's like they're back and forth, and they're both such good actors in this scene. And it's just like, this was a good scene. It's kind of my favorite hole. They're kind of going tit for tat.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I know. They're both like highly faithful to their religions.
SPEAKER_02:And so it's just like, who's right? We won't know until maybe the end of the movie. But also, is it vague? Um, but yeah, summer Summer Isles explains how to Howie, the island's recent history and culture. Um, and this is where I put my notes, big castle with fancy old antiques, and then random pictures of tomatoes and onions. Hell yeah. Um, Summer Isle's grandfather, a distinguished Victorian scientist, developed several new strains of fruit that he believed could prosper in Scotland's climate given the proper conditions. Drawn to Summer Isle's unique combination of uh fertile volcanic soil and local waters heated by the Gulf Stream, he incalculated in the local popular a belief that old gods were real and worshipping them by farming the new crop strains would deliver them from their meager livelihood. The crops bore fruit, and the island's Christian clergy were driven away. The population now embracing pagan teachings wholesale. People have fun and grow crops. What could go wrong? Um, and then Howie's just like, God dang it.
SPEAKER_01:We know how much Catholics hate apples. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. They're bad.
SPEAKER_02:That one fucking apple. They ruined everything. We couldn't just be like, all right, we'll give you pass on this one apple.
SPEAKER_01:Apples are sick.
SPEAKER_02:You eat a second apple, now I'm pissed, and then I'll create hell. So enraged by Summer Al's glib comment that Christianity for the Christian God is dead, Howie demands permission to exhume Rowan's body, which Lord Summer Al says, already did, dude.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, man. I thought I'd you could do it. I don't give a fuck.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. He's confident in the belief that such a really deeply religious community as his is incapable of murder. So, Howie's um exhumes the grave and it reveals only the body of a hare. He angry angrily confronts Summer Isle once more by throwing a hare, declaring that he believes that Rowan Morrison was murdered as part of a pagan sacrifice, that he intends to bring the full weight of the law upon the inhabitants of the island. I love how everyone's always singing. Yeah, because like he goes there and it's the uh the teacher just like hanging out with Summer Isle.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he's got his like whole whole getup on. Yeah. With his socks and his kilt and everything. Yeah, it's great.
SPEAKER_02:And he's just like, you know what, you just do whatever.
SPEAKER_01:You're the fucking detective. Figure it out.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah, because he's like, and where would it be? It's like, you're the detective. Why are you asking me?
SPEAKER_01:Just getting more pissed off. I would have been pissed if he got my nice rug all bloody with a hair.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, be like, hey. But the them there, they're probably like, ah, yes, I love dead hairs. So Summer Al sets him off um and tells him it's good he won't be around for the May Day celebration. But he will. So um, how he breaks into the local chemist shop, how he discovers that a negative of the last year's harvest photograph does in fact exist. It shows Rowan standing amidst a meager, pathetic group of boxes indicating that last year's harvest was a poor one and that the crops the island only means of income had failed. It's like it's like there's literally like one fruit in the box. And she's just standing there smiling, and it's like, you shouldn't smile. It's not a good thing. So struck by his recollection of an offhand remark made by Lord Summer about appeasing the old gods when necessary, and by research that indicates pagan societies offer up a human sacrifice in the event of crop failure, how are he deduce how he deduces that Rowan is in fact still alive and that she is being kept hidden so she can be sacrificed as part of the May Day celebrations to ensure a plentiful harvest for the coming year. Um, and there's just like yes, because Howie says a primitive man lived and died by his harvest. The purpose of his spring ceremonies was to ensure a plentiful autumn. Relics of these fertility dramas are to be found all over Europe. In Great Britain, for example, one can still see harmless versions of them dancing at obscure villages on May Day. Their cast includes many alarming characters, a man animal or a hobby horse, who canters at the head of the procession, charging at the girls, a man woman, the sinister teaser, played by the community leader or priest, and a man fool, punch, most complex of all the symbolic characters, the privileged simpleton and king for a day, six swordmen follow these figures, and at the climax of the ceremony lock their swords together in a clear symbol of the sun. In pagan times, however, these dancers were not simply picturesque jigs, they were frenzies, rites ending in a sacrifice by which the dancers hoped desperately to win over the goddess of the fields. In good times, they offered produce to the goods, gods, and slaughtered animals. But in bad years, when the harvest had been poor, the sacrifice was a human being. Hell yeah, it's awesome. And then how he's like, Rowan's not dead.
SPEAKER_01:And I love it, it's like he's thinking out loud, or like you're hearing his thoughts. Yeah. And the librarian's like, Can you shut the fuck up?
SPEAKER_02:Can you like think?
SPEAKER_01:And then he starts talking out loud. Yeah. But you know, like a lot of our Christmas traditions come from these same rituals.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, the Christmas tree. Deborating a Christmas tree.
SPEAKER_01:The Yule log, like shit like that. Christmas used to be fun.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. A lot more fun. Now it's just fake trees and it's boring. Yeah. What's your under the tree? So um, how he's going to leave as he heads to his plane. We see random people popping out with animal masks. Rad. That's when the movie's like, let's go. That's where it feels real folk. And they're all like, oh.
SPEAKER_01:What is the word?
SPEAKER_02:They're all kind of mischievous. Mischievous. Because they're looking at his plane. They're like, and then you got like the little noises where it's like boop, boo, boop, boop, boop. And uh, so when he gets to his plane, it won't start, and the people with mask high, and they're like, and then he decides to find Rowan himself. So Howie walks around looking, he's kicking every fucking door. That's essentially what he's gonna do. So he walks around looking, he spots the hobby horse he read about, and he chases after him. Um, but like, you know, he's actually being like tempted by it and being led to this place. He can't catch it. Yeah. Um, Howie sees Lord Summer Al preparing for the May Day Festival with the townfolk. He hears that they are going to make a sacrifice to the sun god and orchard god for better crops. He's just like, it's like, Howie, you're being set up. Just hang out on the plane. Just don't leave the plane, just stay on the plane, Howie.
SPEAKER_01:I feel like if you learn to fly a plane, you should learn to like how to fix it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Or at least figure out what's wrong with it.
SPEAKER_02:Especially like if you just land in the middle of the ocean, it's like, holy crap. Right. Um, so he goes back to May and tells her that Rowan is not dead, but she does not care for what he has to say. She tells him to go back to the mainland for that. He doesn't understand their ways. It's like the mom's just like, dude, I don't care. Okay. Like, no one here cares what you're saying.
SPEAKER_01:I've got another daughter. It's fine.
SPEAKER_02:It's like you're constantly yelling at people for what they're doing and they're not gonna listen. Howie then searches every house on the island looking for Rowan. Got like the naked teacher, yeah, got a kid playing dead for some reason. Yeah, that was awesome. Because they're just being mischievous. You got the uh boat where it's like a guy's making a fish thing. You got a bakery where they're like baking a like bread bag, bread corpse. Yeah. Um, you got the uh butcher, the funeral home, and he goes back to the inn to rest. He pretends to sleep as Willow and her father talk about wanting him to sleep through the festival. They put a hand candle by his bed. Super normal. You know, I don't know what hand candles do, but I'll give it a hand.
SPEAKER_01:They don't sell them at Bath and Body Works.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I haven't seen that one. That's it's at the demonic one. So, um, and we learned a little earlier that the innkeeper is gonna be punch. Um, so Howie ties up the innkeeper and assumes his place as Punch, a principal character of the Mayday Festival. Disguised, he joins the procession of islanders as they uh kind of go around through the town and perform harmless sacrifices to various lesser gods. Love you got. It's like so at first, you know, he's just kind of walking, swinging his little thing, and then uh Lord Summer How's it? Hey, come on, man. We do this once a year. Get into it. It's one day a year you gotta be into this. Yeah, we see men fighting with swords and kilts. Some of the girls start poking at Howie with the swords, and someone else, now you got the spirit. Yeah. Um, they stop at where the girls were jumping over fire. They create a star with the swords where everybody has to put their heads through. Um, it's like game of chance. Howie goes through, but nothing happens, and the next person goes and they chop off the head, but it was a fake head. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So they knew which one to do.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but like, do they actually do this ritual? And it's like, really? Do they ever cut anybody's head off? It doesn't seem like it, right? No, because I got so I got so many people on an island. Yeah, it's like we'll go through people pretty fast here. We can't be cut killing the kids. I mean, come on. Uh the Lord Summer.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:It's like, oh well. We're gonna have to find another person to take over. So Lord Summer Owl releases open barrels of alcohol for the sea gods. Then Lord Summer Owl announces that a grimmer sacrifice awaits them, and Rowan is finally revealed and relieved to be rescued at the moment. It's like, oh, help me. Tied to a post, Howie cuts her free and flees through a cave, but after a brief chase, he emerges at another entrance on the precipice where Summer Isl and his followers stand waiting for them. And Howie is shocked to see Rowan merely embrace her captors and then notices he's being surrounded. Did I do good, Papa? Uh-oh. Howie, it seems like things aren't gonna work out for you.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's fine.
SPEAKER_02:So Lord Summer Owl explains to Howie that after painstaking research on their behalf, he specifically has was lured to Summer Owl by the islanders, who have been successful in a conspiracy to lead him to believe that a girl is missing um and being held captive against her will, and confirms to him that last year's harvest failed disastrously, threatening the inhabitants with a return with a return to their previously desperate existence, and that they have no intention of allowing that to happen.
SPEAKER_01:I will say that this is the first instance where I ever heard someone say that an adult sacrifice was worth more than a child's sacrifice.
SPEAKER_02:Right. It's like, oh, so pagans are a little bit better than uh, you know, satanic rituals, I guess. So it's always like it's gotta be a goat or a child. Yeah. And this one is like, actually, you know, if we could just get like a virgin man, that'd be like Yeah, that never happens. Bingo. Um, so their religion calls for a sacrifice to be made to the sun god, as Lord Summer Alles explains that animals are fine, but their accessibility is limited. A young child is even better, but not nearly as effective as the right kind of adult. How he's devote Christian lifestyle and livelihood as a policeman mean that he meets the outstanding criteria for a human that is to be sacrificed to appease the gods. He has come to uh uh come of his own free will with the power of a king, and he is a virgin, but uh most importantly, a fool.
SPEAKER_01:Do you think when they sent the the letter with the like saying that the girl was missing that drew him there? They're like PS send a virgin.
SPEAKER_02:Sends it is like um send this letter back and answer the question below. Uh, are you a virgin? Yes, check yes or no. Send it back and don't come until we send another letter back.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So Howie yells that he's a Christian and that he has eternal life. Howie, I believe in the life eternal as promised to us by our Lord Jesus Christ. Christ, Lord Somehow, that is good for believing what you do. We confer upon you a rare gift these days, a martyr's death.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And then they do weird shit to him. Yeah. Put some butter on him.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you gotta oil them up, man. Gotta might as well eat them afterwards, you know. In spite of his uh pro uh protest that the crops failed because fruit was not meant to grow on these islands, and that next year the sacrifice of Lord Summer Isle himself will be called for. How he's stripped bare, then dressed in ceremonial robes and led to the summit of a cliff with his hands tied. He is horrified to find a giant hollow Wickerman statue, roll credits, with which he is then locked inside. The statue is soon to set afire as the islanders surround the burning Wicker Man and sing the Middle English folk song Summer is Ichman in. And they are getting into it. Yeah. Loved it. And a terrified Howie curses them and recites Palm 23 as he prays to God for his sense access ascension into heaven. Film ends as the burning head of the Wicker Man falls from his shoulders, revealing the sunset in a blood-red sky. Yeah, yeah. Jason, do you think the ritual works?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, obviously.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, I'm with Lord Summer. I felt like the zoom in to the to the sun was supposed to be like, it did work. Oh, maybe this is like a world where like all gods exist.
SPEAKER_01:Rules. But they were both, they both believe in eternal life. But one of them is one's is different.
SPEAKER_02:One's reincarnation. You might the other one's you might come back as a tree, and the other one's like, you'll just like live in this like nether space or corpse, I guess. You'll just be like this, like the clouds? I don't know. Wherever you go, wherever heaven's gonna be. Right? Uh so yeah, this ending fucking rules. Did you like the reveal that it was all we actually tricked you?
SPEAKER_01:She's alive. I did. I feel like he did a lot of explaining, but whatever.
SPEAKER_02:It was yeah, and it's just like because I feel like a lot of movies, it's always like, it's like, no, they are gonna sacrifice the child, but just the fact that it's like, actually, sucker, yeah, it's you, bro.
SPEAKER_01:I felt like Lord Summer Island was he'd been like holding this in for days.
SPEAKER_02:He's like, oh, I'm gonna get him so much. You thought you had blue balls for Willow.
SPEAKER_01:What do you think I've been doing over here?
SPEAKER_02:Gotcha bit. Every time you walk into the room, I'm like, everybody was, yeah. Uh it's great. And just like CRISPR Lee fucking nails this section, and so does uh Howie's. He's just they're so good. It's so great. Because like the whole time, you know, I was like, man, how he can just die, whatever. But then like when he gets he's like putting the wicker thing, and it's just like, I don't know, man. You know what? Actually, I'm not on these guys' sides anymore. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:Like, I I thought it kind of ruled, but also well, yeah, I mean it ruled. I think he didn't fight back much. Yeah, I feel like these unless they're just the best weavers on the planet, which they could be.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I mean they spent all year making this wicker man.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Those sticks, I mean, I feel like he could have broken a few a few. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, he definitely could have broken out. He could have rammed the door. I saw no chains.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:There was like one iron lock on the gate. Yeah. Everything else was just dried sticks. Start gnawing on it or something.
SPEAKER_02:Beaver your way out. Yeah. Um, and there were animals also in the wicker man. And so that was sad. The taster was actually in the wicker man when I was on fire. Like they actually put him in and on fire. That sucks. Yeah. Um, he said he was as scared as he's ever been in his life. And the animals were not in the wicker man when on fire. Oh, good. They were able to use camera magic that way.
SPEAKER_01:Did you hear the words of the song they were singing? Um, I can't remember it off the top of my head. Had the subtitles on. It was like when the cow, the you goes before the lamb, and then when the cow goes moo, the cuckoo, the chicken, just animal sounds.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, they're just making animal sounds. You know? Hey, whatever you gotta do, right? Everything comes back to the movie we've done before. Yes, that is the wicker man. Jason, what is the point of the wicker man? Leave those weird island people alone. It's like, dude, just don't go there.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, there's that one island in the Philippines, I think it is, where like no one's allowed to go, but like one Christian dude tried to go there.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah, where killed him with a spear because I had like the uh uh indigenous people there and like he kept going back even though they kept running him off, and eventually they're like, motherfucker. Some kid just speared him through the heart. You're not coming back.
SPEAKER_01:Obviously, you won't leave us alone. Fucking rules. Like we've leave people alone.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, let them do their weird shit. Um I put like actually the dangers of faith. Who's right, who's wrong? Can any of it be right? I mean, the pagan rituals seem very fun and more relaxed and enjoyable until you know, the burning the man alive. While the Christian belief is built more on fear and anxieties that you're wrongs will take you to hell, but if you're good, you'll live forever in bliss. And then it's also just like almost thinking that you're so right that everybody's wrong, I feel like it's kind of a and you know, like people who just believe things wholeheartedly can be dangerous, right? Yes. Uh depending how strong they believe and what they take from text and things like that can be scary more so. I mean, witch trials, right? Yeah, it's totally fun. They went a little too crazy.
SPEAKER_01:They did.
SPEAKER_02:Certainly that cool cool.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And I think when you're comparing two religions next to each other, the one that where people party naked, is you should go that way. Yeah. And not, you know.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Just don't burn someone alive at the end.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I mean, um no.
SPEAKER_02:You can. Literally, the only wrong thing they did was that totally do it if you asked. That was the worst thing that they did. Ended up being a big one, but you know, just like, dang, don't do that, man. Don't burn that guy.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so good. Loved it. Um, they just burn the bread man and they make toast and then put butter on it. Maybe we'll trick the gods.
SPEAKER_02:They'll be like, oh, this isn't a human. But this is good. But it looks like a human. This is good. It's like when it comes to like sacrifices, it's like, what is the idea that like the soul or spirit or energy of a human is going to the gods? Or they're just like, ha, that was cool.
SPEAKER_01:Here's good trees. It's really cool. Like in the in the Bible, it talks in the Old Testament, it talks about God loves the smell of burning human flesh. So that's awesome. That's rad.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, like most that one.
SPEAKER_01:Most gods love that smell.
SPEAKER_02:That one in church.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, they don't talk about that one.
SPEAKER_02:Like, gods are just so bored up there, you know. They're just like, oh it's been around forever. Can you do something crazy? What if we like convince them to put a man in a wicker? Put them in a basket, a wicker statue and burn them. Like, that would be crazy, dude. Like, and like we'll do it, we'll make them do it like every like 20 years. Like, they'll have really good crops for a while, and then we'll be like, oh, we need another sacrifice for your crops to grow, even though we could just do it if we wanted to. They're like, they're like, they're like, fuck it, you got their ass.
SPEAKER_01:He's like, shut up, this dude.
SPEAKER_02:They're just a bunch of like teenagers up at the end. That's what it's kind of like.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's just like it's like the cruelty of children, yeah, running a human population. Right.
SPEAKER_02:Oh god. All right, Jason. So we're gonna hit our good, the bad, the ugly, the fine. It's where we discuss the good of the film, something we like, the bad, something we didn't like, the ugly, something that we think didn't age well, the fine, something that did age well. We got for the good.
SPEAKER_00:Well, what I thought was good is just the idea of this whole community coming together, you know, working together to trick this one man.
SPEAKER_01:This one man.
SPEAKER_02:They moved the pieces all over the board to do this.
SPEAKER_01:Could you imagine if our whole town got together to pull a prank on one guy? Yeah. And then didn't burn him at the end, obviously. That would suck. But like that'd be crazy. That'd be wild.
SPEAKER_02:There's a movie called The Game, directed by David Venture. That's very similar.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I've seen that. Yeah. It's great.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Uh it's just like, dude, you made me do all I'd be so pissed off.
SPEAKER_01:Yes. But imagine how much fun that would be.
SPEAKER_02:It's like at the end of this, like um, they throw them in the wicker basket, they're about to set it on fire. Ashton Kutcher bump open. You been punk, bro. What you think? I would punch Ashton Kutcher in the face. What you think, Howie? Uh but then there's a party afterwards, and we all have fun. Yeah, you know what? The community here, that was the good. Yeah. I thought the pacing and the mystery. Especially the first time I watched it, the mystery was I was like, oh shit, where's this girl? And then, like, you know, the whole ending, it's great. The ending is, oh, what a beautiful horror movie ending.
SPEAKER_01:Great. Um, but yeah, the pacing. And then after they've burned the wicker man, he builds the tower that he lives in and the Lord of the Rings. What do you think they do once it's like like it's like, all right, he's not screaming anymore.
SPEAKER_02:It's done burning. It's like, do they keep singing? It's like what are they? It's like, all right, well, they keep singing, right? Until the sun goes down. That was a pretty good day. So we just I guess we'll just go get some drinks. Maybe. Yeah, you go to the bar? Have sex in a field. We'll see. We'll see y'all in a year. Make sure to plant your seeds. Yeah, plant those fucking apples. Yeah. Um, so what'd you have for the bad? I didn't have anything.
SPEAKER_01:That was kind of a messy piece movie. Um yeah, uh nothing really was bad. I just it was such a I thought maybe if they were trying to make it scary. I mean, this was 70s. Yeah. Maybe add some scarier music. Yeah, I loved all the music. I know, no, the music's so whimsical and funny.
SPEAKER_02:I think, I mean, honestly, I think having any other mu music would make it kind of too cheesy, which is weird because it's playing kind of cheesy sounding movie music, but it's like it's so the music's so in a in the world of this film that it it's perfect, right?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, this is their world. Yeah, and like they're it's nothing about it is scary to them. Yeah, so I was like, that's amazing, but like it wasn't scary. Maybe that's my bad. Is that it wasn't scary to me.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Ever. It could be, yeah. And I guess you know, we're more open people about everything.
SPEAKER_01:So it's like wait for them to burn this guy. So scary. It's like, dude, this guy just needs a break. I thought for a second that he was gonna get away with like he was gonna come out on top on the end, like being the the fool. He's gonna be like, pop his mask off and be like, Ha, gotcha fools. Gotcha. But then they're like, I'm a fish.
SPEAKER_02:No, no, no. No, no, it's just it was awesome. Yeah. Um, I put for the ugly is that like a lot of movies, like other religions other than Christianity, always end up kind of being the bad guy. Yeah. Then there's plenty of movies where real like the religious people are a little too religious. But um, yeah, I always feel like anytime we get like cult movies, and it's always like, oh, we had a we had to like grab from this one religion to make it weird and creepy, and they're the bad guys, and it's always like, why don't we always gotta do that? Like, I mean, how about we just learn about their religion through your movie and like hey, there's a bad person in the religion. Doesn't have to be like, oh, their whole religion, pagan religion sucks. This is what they'll do, they'll sacrifice you. But hopefully you're smarter and you know it's just a movie, right?
SPEAKER_01:My only ugly would be like when the the girls were jumping over the fire naked, if they were really were children, that would be a problem. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:No, they're not like some like there was a kid in um that class that was sitting at the desk that was like 20 years old.
SPEAKER_00:Damn.
SPEAKER_02:So like a lot of the people in this movie are so not all of them, obviously, but like some of them were.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, maybe it's just the whole idea of them being if they were supposed to be children. That's kind of strange.
SPEAKER_02:For sure, for sure. Yeah, that was also coming to like kind of the vagueness to it. It's like all of these people showing their breasts, like would we know what age they were? Like, would you be like, you're a child, please cover up. You know, or would they be a religion? You're free, do whatever you want.
SPEAKER_01:Well, luckily they all had they were all holding their IDs out in front of them. And it said 18, totally 18.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Um uh what do you have that H well? I love these rituals.
SPEAKER_01:I love a good ritual. But like a whole community doing rituals together.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Man, it just warms my heart.
SPEAKER_02:I put the ending. This is so beautiful.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Great last shot. It rules, you know, with like it but it's a surprising movie. When the wicker man falls, it's like it's bowing to the sun. Yeah. That was kind of yeah. That was right.
SPEAKER_02:Uh it's just such a good visual, the wicker man.
SPEAKER_01:There's so much there's so much good imagery in this movie.
SPEAKER_02:It's wild.
SPEAKER_01:All the like the little door, there's like things on doors, like the statues. Yeah, like the little dragon on the door, the carvings and the tombstones. Like the one of them said, This man, uh, one of the tombstones, this man's protected by snake ejaculation. I'm like, Bring me more. I need more of this, whatever it is. Yeah, I need it. It's okay. Uh that's awesome.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's just like, where was all that already there, or did they just like put all that up? I don't know. I don't know. All right, Jason, we're gonna hit our next category, double feature. It's where we recommend a movie to go alongside this movie. And you picked I picked Lord of the Rings. Yes, they're the same movie, especially if the sequel. If they ever made the sequel, it'd be the same movie Dragon and Eagles. Yeah, fuck yeah, man.
SPEAKER_01:But as soon as I saw Christopher Lee in that underbite, I was like, oh, oh man, I love this man so much.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, oh, he's just he's just such a damn freak, you know. I love that guy.
SPEAKER_01:He's like, just imagine Lord Summer Isle grows his hair out a little bit, yeah, gets a stick, has a wizard fight. Bring it, bring it on.
SPEAKER_02:I picked I I picked uh another folk horror movie, and it's uh filmed in Britain or somewhere, can't remember. Um, it's called The Borderlands or Final Prayer. It's got two titles. I don't fucking get it. I watched it last year and it's a found footage movie. It's a a team of Vatican investigators descend upon a church in a remote area to demystify the unusual happenings, but what they discover is more disturbing than they had first imagined. It's great, it's one of those movies where you're like there'll just be a camera set up and it's like there's some noises, something like slightly moving, and it's like, what is what ghosts? Who are these people? Who are these ghosts? Um, but it's really it's it's pretty scary. It's great. I loved it. Um uh and the ending is wild. That sounds awesome. It's a fucking I want to watch it. Rad ending. You may not know what the ending is doing. See, I looked it up and then had to kind of realize what it is, and I was like, oh, that's what they were doing. So whether it was 100% successful, successful with the storytelling, I don't know, but man, I love the ending.
SPEAKER_01:That's rad. Yeah. Do you know that uh Christopher Lee was like an expert in toll in like Lord of the Rings?
SPEAKER_02:Oh, that makes sense.
SPEAKER_01:He he met Tolkien before he died. Really? He would often go to the dressing rooms uh for the in the making of Lord of the Rings to give him pointers on things. By the way, this is actually how you do this.
SPEAKER_02:I know I lived back then because I was Dracula.
SPEAKER_01:He's the biggest nerd in England. Yeah, I love it so much.
SPEAKER_02:And it turned out he's a really good actor in England. That's also kicks ass. Theater kids, man. Theater kids. Once a theater kid, always a theater kid. So, Jason, this is our final movie that we're covering normally for Halloween. Because after this week, when this releases, Halloween will be over. But don't worry, because Friday, there's one more spooky movie coming. And it's Halloween three. We're doing a commentary over it. I've never seen it. Jason's never seen it. I've seen it once. Can't wait to rewatch it and see if I find it better than I did last time.
SPEAKER_01:I'm gonna go ahead and bet on that.
SPEAKER_02:Because Halloween three is a very uh, it's like a cult hit, you know. Oh, really? Um, people didn't like it when it first came out because there's no Michael Myers. But then, like as time went by, people started loving it more. And so, like, I've heard a lot of praise for the movie. And then I watched it and I was like, oh. Oh okay, this was fine, I guess. I don't know. Um, but yeah, so look forward to that for Friday. Um, and see what we think about it as we're watching it. Hell yeah. And then Monday in November, no more spookiness. We are gonna be covering Friendship, the Tim Robins Robinson movie and Paul Rudd movie. It's where a suburban dad falls hard for his charismatic new neighbor. It's got all the greatness of what Tim Robinson does in his bits, but it's also hella stressful and awkward in places. And it's so fucking it's so good, bro. And Jason, that's our conclusion of the wicker man in our horror movie season.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, so sad.
SPEAKER_02:Except for Friday. So yeah, make sure you join us for that. It's I'm just kind of bummed out now. Nah, it's good. We're good. The horror movie season's over, even though probably in like a couple of weeks we'll end up doing another horror movie because I don't know. That's most of my favorite movies. Yeah, it kicks out. I want to redo the thing. Yeah. Yeah, because that was like one of our first ones. It's not the Gret best episode. I think you were kind of sick, and I was still kind of figuring out how to do notes to where I could do them better and more like easier to read. So good. So maybe we'll do that next year. We'll do like a or have a little series where we're it'd be a remake series where we just do some of the films from the like Big Lebowski. We could do a way better episode on that now. Um, so maybe we'll do that. Yeah, thank you for joining us. Uh join us next week for friendship. Um, and if you'd like to leave us some fan mail in our link on some platforms, it allows you to click it, and you can send us a link straight from your phone or go to the bottom where we have our email. We recommend movies. We recommend mailbag at gmail.com. Um, like us, follow us. If you've been spooked because of any of our movies that we recommended, give us give us a five-star rating. Be like, these guys scary. Um yeah, and thank you, Joey Prosser, for our intro and outro film, our music. Jeez, I've uh lost all energy here at the end. Um, yeah. You look like a deflated balloon. I do. I am a deflated balloon. Um, but yeah, this has been the We Recommend Podcast. I've been Jesse. I've been Jason.
SPEAKER_01:Um be kind to yourself. Hell the wicker, man. Happy Halloween!
SPEAKER_02:Bye, be safe.
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