Knives Out

This week we cover one of the best movies of 2019. Hot off the Last Jedi, Rian Johnson comes out swinging with on of the best who dunnits ever. Is this Chris Evans best ever performance?

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Chapters

• 0:00 Welcome And Knives Out Reveal
• 1:02 First Impressions And Rian Johnson Style
• 2:44 Cast Highlights And Blanc’s Accent
• 5:20 Whodunit Love And Structure Twists
• 8:05 The House, Props, And Payoffs
• 10:02 Fun Facts And iPhone Villain Rule
• 12:40 Theme Tease And Listener Mail
• 13:45 Plot Walkthrough Begins
• 28:30 The Will Reading Fallout
• 35:05 Blackmail, Fire, And Car Chase
• 41:00 Fran, The Donut, And The Reveal
• 47:00 Motives, Morals, And Final Turn
• 51:10 Themes: Greed, Privilege, And Kindness
• 55:20 The Good, Bad, Ugly, Fine
• 1:07:46 Double Feature Picks
• 1:10:20 Next Week And Calls To Action

Transcript

SPEAKER_03: 0:03

Hello and welcome to the We Recommend Podcast, a movie podcast where every week we recommend a movie for you to watch. Then come back here and listen to us discuss. I'm Jesse. And I'm Jason. What were the overheard words by the Nazi child masturbating in the bathroom? Cause this week we recommend knives out.

SPEAKER_00: 0:29

He does kind of sound like that. Yeah, I was blanc.

SPEAKER_03: 0:32

I was like, oh wait, I have to. The only way I can get into ballcord and late horror voices. Now boy, I say, I sorry. It's like the only way. Used to be better. I'm actually that was actually pretty bad. Me and my friend Richard would do that all the time. Yeah, he was Brendan. Yeah. Oh. So, first time watching? Yeah. What'd you think? That was awesome. It's kind of almost like a perfect movie.

SPEAKER_00: 0:54

I had a wonderful time. I was so just focused. Wrapped in the mysteries. Who done it?

SPEAKER_03: 1:01

Yeah. Um, yeah, this came out in 2019. I think it was my favorite movie of 2019 going up against like Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and Parasite, but like Who Done It's fucking rule. Yeah. I feel like they really nailed it. And I love it because Ryan Johnson, he's always been kind of um what's the what's the right word here? Anytime that there's like a uh like a normal storyline, you know, that's been done a billion times, he finds a way to like kind of manipulate it and trick you. He's always done that in all his movies like Brick, Brothers Bloom. Uh he also did Looper and Slash Jedi, which that's why a lot of people didn't like it. They're like, wait, you did things that Star Wars movies don't do, and he's like, ha ha ha, gotcha. There's gonna be so many angry nerds. Yeah, and there were not two in here though. Which I feel like you can feel that, um you can feel that the effect of angry people on Twitter really uh got to him in this movie. Yeah. Cause I will say the knives out uh movies seem to be like Ryan Johnson just makes movies about people he doesn't like and they all lose at the end. Especially once you watch Glass Onion, which we'll probably do next year on this podcast. That was just like we hate everybody that's on Twitter. So here it is. We are people who don't we're just kind of influencers that are kind of the worst. He makes fun of them, which he's kind of doing with this, you know. He had like the Nazi child, uh a little bit of politics talking here. The second one has way more of it, and it's honestly kind of why I like this one better than that one. But um, so this cast kind of fucking rules, right? Yeah, maybe like one of the best casts in a movie ever. I know.

SPEAKER_00: 2:52

As soon as it started, I was like, holy shit, it's gonna be great.

SPEAKER_03: 2:55

Yeah, it's wild because like everybody's like, I don't know, everybody puts on their A game in this.

SPEAKER_00: 3:01

It's like they sent out a flare to anyone, any actor that wants to be a pretentious baby.

SPEAKER_03: 3:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 3:07

And they're like, God, me, me.

SPEAKER_03: 3:10

Right? It's like, yeah, Daniel Craig, Benoit Blanc, who's this, you know, he's amazing. He I guess he he came up with his own accent. I have some facts about that.

SPEAKER_00: 3:19

Other why why do they always go southern? And I think just knowing that he's British made me hate his accent. Yeah, it just didn't match, but it's fine, it's good.

SPEAKER_03: 3:29

Um, so Ryan Johnson says, I had written into the script that Blanc speaks with a subtle southern accent. Subtle. Ryan Johnson explains that Daniel Craig researched accents and became attached to historian Shelby Foots, cadence and draw. So it's kind of that it's a little fog horn, leg horn, and it's also a little Harlan Pepper, which is Christopher Guest's character in Best and Show, which is funny because Christopher J Guest is Jamie Lee Curtis's husband. So yeah, that's kind of how they came up with it. Um and Chris Evans, my favorite Chris Evans role. I mean, other like he's just done Captain America, which where he's like, I'm a tight lace, goody two shoe, blah, blah, blah, and which he's kind of always been stuck in ever since uh Fantastic after Fantastic Four. Um yeah, this is my favorite role. He has the best fucking sweater in the history of sweaters. It's a nice sweater. I was like, I want all the sweaters. Um and yeah, he's just he plays this kind of lovable shithead that you feel like you can trust, but it's like he's too good looking. There's no way you can trust this rich guy. I can't trust any of these people. Yeah. And the Anna Darmus, which um she's huge now, but this was kind of like her big role where she just wasn't like, yeah, where she just wasn't like, let's put her in a movie so she'll take her top off. Because that's like every movie before this, is all she did. And this got her um the next John um uh uh uh 007 movie. Oh and it also got her into Blade Runner and all these other movies. Blade Runner actually might have been before. I'm not sure. Jamie Lee Kurt is fucking crushing as usual. Uh Michael Shannon, which is apparently he's like the funniest person on set. People were like, he is one of the funniest people you'll ever meet. He like all his funny lines were like made up from him and just added by him. Uh Don Johnson, love him. Yeah, love my Miami Vice Guy.

SPEAKER_00: 5:19

Silver hair.

SPEAKER_03: 5:20

He's just so he has been attractive since it probably the day he came out of the womb, you know.

SPEAKER_00: 5:26

I hated him in this movie though. I know. I mean he's great acting.

SPEAKER_03: 5:30

He starts off where you're kind of like, oh, it's Don Johnson, I like him, and then you're like, oh no, he's got a shithead. Immediately gonna be a shithead. And then, of course, Christopher Plummer, he's great and everything. Uh funny thing, Christopher Plumis, who plays Harlan Thornby, the older guy. Um, his you know, he's got his mother in the movie, like the old lady around. He's six years older than her. Wow. Yeah. Is that not crazy? Christopher Plummer, R.I.P. Man, he acted until he was like 90 something. He was 90 in this movie, apparently. That's insane. And then we have to talk about Tony Collette. Okay. It's so great. Because she's always kind of like this moody, sad, like stressed out character. And this is finally where she's like, Oh my gosh. I love crystals. Yeah, I love what she's dancing around. Everybody's around. She keeps like trying to grab Linda, and she's like, it's so good. But yeah, um, and then there's even more people, but like Keith Stanfield, he doesn't really have much to do in here. He's just kind of like, What are you doing, Blanc? What's happening? Um, so uh, are you a fan of Who Done It? Like Agatha Christine's kind of thing.

SPEAKER_02: 6:39

Yeah. Might be one of our double features at the end of the movie, I would assume.

SPEAKER_03: 6:44

Yeah, I love it. And I love how this movie is like, hey, it's a Who Done It, but oh, we're 40 minutes in. Here's Who Did It?

SPEAKER_01: 6:52

You're like, wait, what?

SPEAKER_03: 6:53

And she didn't even mean to do it. And then it's like, but wait, there's more. It was fun. It's like it knows exactly when to turn everything upside down, right? It knows exactly when to do everything.

SPEAKER_00: 7:07

It's really interesting that they went, they show you exactly how it was done so soon. Yeah. Of course, they had to lead some stuff out.

SPEAKER_03: 7:15

Yeah. And then it's like, it's just so fun trying to piece it together.

SPEAKER_00: 7:17

And then as you watch it again, it's like, oh, because you're kind of just like after you find out what happened, you're kind of just like waiting for Marta to get caught. Yeah, you're like, how's she gonna get out of this shit? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 7:30

Is it um is it obvious that it's ransom?

SPEAKER_00: 7:34

It wasn't obvious to me.

SPEAKER_03: 7:36

It wasn't obvious when I first watched it, but I was kind of curious for like a new watcher.

SPEAKER_00: 7:39

It's like is that something that's maybe made me trust him a little bit? I know what I'm like fuck you.

SPEAKER_03: 7:44

It's like especially when he gets to uh that place where they go to eat, you think like, ah, well, we can trust them, even though he tricked her into tricked her into eating beans and toasts. Yeah, it's like, oh, what a British breakfast. Um, do you think the story's a little too complex or complex just enough? No, it's with all the twists and turns. Okay. Oh, that was fine. I was curious. I was just trying to think, like, um, it's like, is this just something because I've watched so many movies, it came pretty easy to me. I was just curious. Um, all right, we already kind of talked about it. Um so I actually already asked about the sweater, but uh this is kind of the best house and sweater movie. Yeah. The fucking house, like especially when it opens up on the intro and the dogs are running, and I'm just like, oh, oh, I want to live in that house. I'm gonna be haunted by everything that's ever died in there.

SPEAKER_00: 8:34

And it's got a secret window.

SPEAKER_03: 8:35

Yeah. Come on. That that is my if I ever want to the lottery, I would just make. I've always wanted my own secret bathroom in a house where I just like pop something and then I walk in, and nobody in the house except for me and Natalie knows about it. And she'll have her own and I'll have my own. All I want is a secret bathroom. We'll have like a TV and everything in there.

SPEAKER_00: 8:57

You just have walkie-talkies in there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 8:59

So like uh Yeah, breaker uh Natalie, uh you pooping. Um but yeah, that's uh that fucking house, man. Oh, I want it so bad. And all the knives. Just knives differently. Um so what about whenever he like I just this movie's so smart, right? Even everything up to the line of Christopher Plummer where it's like, I don't even know the difference between a prop knife and a real knife anymore. And then at the end, it's like fucking prop knife. Everything comes back in this movie. It's almost like he set it up, but it's like he he lit he like set up a movie, a book that he wrote, essentially. Yeah. So uh Ryan Johnson said that Michael Shannon was by far the funniest person on set and came up with a lot of his character's funny lines and physical moments, such as his triumphant arm raise during the eat shit scene and his retort, I am not eating one iota of shit. Yes. Too good, too good. Eat shit, eat shit, eat shit, and especially you eat shit.

SPEAKER_00: 10:11

I want to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_03: 10:12

I don't have that much money. God to have so much money that you can just tell everybody around you to eat shit. It's like, what are y'all gonna do? We're all in the same family and we're all rich. Not anymore. So both the titles Knives Out and the working title, whenever it's being made, uh, Morning Bell, are tracks from the album Amnesiac by the English rock band Radiohead. Cool. Glass Onion, uh, that's a Beatles song. So he's Oh, is it? And Wake Up Dead Man, that's the new one that's coming out. Uh, I think uh next week. Um, that one is also a song title.

SPEAKER_00: 10:45

I just don't know what I love watching those AI videos of people cutting glass fruit or vegetables. It's so satisfying. Never seen that. It's so satisfying.

SPEAKER_03: 10:55

I don't even know what it is. Fuck AI. So uh Chris Evans got his dog Dodger, a sweater that looks just like the one he wore in the film. Evans wore a white cable knit sweater in the movie, and it quickly became an internet sensation. That's what that's called, cable knit. Cable net, yeah. And he got his dog his own. Um, Ryan Johnson said that he knew, like he said, Chris Evans is one of the best actors I ever saw because he had to make it believable that dogs didn't love him and he didn't like dogs. Oh, yeah, all things untrue because those dogs apparently love Chris Evans and he loved those dogs. And he's like, he's like, he's goddamn, he's the best actor I've ever seen.

SPEAKER_00: 11:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 11:39

He's a mustard. So on the little mug at the end where it says my house, my rules, my coffee. Yeah. So on the Empire Film podcast, Johnson said it was funny that was it wasn't an accident, but it was kind of an accident, a happy accident. I knew I wanted her to like sip tea in the final shot. And I had my set, I had separately the idea of my house, my rules, my coffee, as the first shot in the movie. And after the first big dramatic shot of the house, breaking the tension with a kind of a goofy modern mug, and like they just happened to give her that mug at the end, and it's like, my house, my rules. Yeah, it's mine now, bitch. Get out. And he said, and then he continued, and I was like, Oh, she can have that at the end. Then when we were going to do the close-up, she was up on the back balcony, and I yelled up, Sip the tea, and she brought it into frame, and those words came up, and I was just like, Oh, that's pretty nice. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00: 12:30

Um such a fuck you moment. I love it.

SPEAKER_03: 12:35

So, one of the most interesting knives out hidden details was revealed by Ryan Johnson himself, and one that he admits could spoil many movies in the future. Most of the characters in the film are seen constantly on their phones, all of which are iPhones. One character audiences don't see using iPhone is Ransom, who later turns out to be the real killer. Oddly enough, this was a requirement as Apple does not allow villains in the movie to use their products, therefore revealing Ransom's evil ways. So now if you ever see someone not using an iPhone, because they use an iPhone every day, they're the bad guys. Um let's see. I think that's probably all I'm gonna do. There's like a shit ton, but I think that was fine. Um well, one that I kind of noticed this go through watching, um, because I've seen this quite a few times. The picture of um Har Harlan it changes. It does it. In the first scene when she's looking at it, um, at the beginning, like right before she's about to talk to Benoit Blanc, he's kind of got a little stern face, and then at the end when she's looking at it again, he's smiling with like a little smirk.

SPEAKER_00: 13:41

I was like, what the fuck? Crafty, crafty man.

SPEAKER_03: 13:45

And I was reading earlier that I guess um they didn't get the paintings done in time, so it was all a CGI painting. I was like, holy shit, I could not tell at all. That's crazy. That's pretty great. That's cool.

SPEAKER_00: 13:55

I liked how he had the knife. That was like his favorite knife, I guess.

SPEAKER_03: 13:58

Yeah, he's like, did he even say anything about where he got that knife? I don't think so. I don't think so. That's his yeah. So, uh Jason, we're gonna hop into the plot. But before we do, I want the audience at home to think, what's the point of this movie? It's a it's a nice one because you know, we kind of did some unserious movies, and now there's like a serious point to this movie, which is great. Um, yeah, let us know what you think the point of the movie is. And if you got any uh um, I don't know, like uh things you just want to say to us, uh, over in the link in the description, you can click on it and text us or you go to the very bottom at we recommend mailbag at gmail.com and you can send us some fan mail. Jason, knives out 2019, baby. So, a housekeeper, friend, or the girl from Righteous Gemstones. Yo, yeah, meant to look up her name, forgot, but she's hilarious in Rochester Gemstones. Because I didn't know her before. Since the last time I watched it, I didn't watch Rochester Gemstones. And when I saw it, I was like, ah, well, Natalie noticed it, and I was like, whoa. That is cool. I'm talking so fast. I need to slow down. That's good. I'm so amp the fuck up. This has to be a really annoying podcast for people who don't like people who talk fast.

SPEAKER_00: 15:12

I've never really met people who specifically say they don't like people who talk fast.

SPEAKER_02: 15:16

I hate people who talk too fast.

SPEAKER_03: 15:17

Yeah. So a housekeeper friend carries a breakfast tray through an expense, expensive mansion full of quirky antiques, display knives, and mist mystery novels. Um, to the novel's elderly author, Harlan Thromby. He's not in his bedroom, so she goes up to hidden staircase to a study. She discovers Harlan Body dead on his couch, covered in blood, his throat's been slit. Dang. It's like, who kills himself that way? That's insane. He's such a diva.

SPEAKER_00: 15:46

She's like, oh shit.

SPEAKER_03: 15:48

Yeah, she just drops the day. Like, what? Kind of crazy. Uh, and that's how you can tell. That's that's how you know someone raised some bad kids. He's like, How should I kill myself in the most dramatic way ever? And I'm sure that's how he ran his household. Yeah. So dramatic. A week later, after Harlan's funeral, a young woman named Marta wakes up in a panic in the bedroom of family's house. Her sister calls her down for breakfast and says Marta needs to go back to the thrombie home that day. Marta was Harlan's personal registered nurse. Investigators want to speak to her about his death. And she was also invited to the memorial, of course.

SPEAKER_00: 16:23

Um not the funeral.

SPEAKER_03: 16:24

Yeah. Yeah. Like, fuck off, dude. Are you kidding me? Marta drives her uh beat-up car to the Thrombie mansion and is welcomed warmly by the family. We then meet the family as they're questioned by the investigators, who are LT Elliott, Trooper Wagner, and a mysterious figure sitting by the piano, randomly playing a high note to rattle the interviewers every so often often. Which I think he did that to um so once they got the story and then he'd hit the the key. The key, every time he did it, they'd be like, Alright, what time? So that was him telling them to ask the time. Time's a very big thing in this. I guess when they were making the movie, they um they would constantly be like, all right, what time is this supposed to be? So they made sure all the timing was right on everything, which is great. Um, the man eventually introduces himself as a famed private investigator, Benoit Blanc. First, they question Linda. Harlan's eldest daughter. Linda owns her own company. It's very clear she is the one who runs it. Her husband, Richard, merely helping. We discover through her that Harlan was killed on the evening after a party for his 85th birthday. Linda insists she and Harlan had a good relationship, but her terse tone and measured words mean we are not so sure she's trustful. And I love as we're gonna go through all the characters, they always kind of cut to the same shots, right? Like him at the edge of the table blowing out his candles, and it's always could the people are changed between who's carried it because they're all like, Yeah, we had the perfect relationship. So clever. Um, but she recalls her brother Walt had uh played by Michael Shannon, had an argument with Harlan at the party. She also has a low opinion on Walt Uh Walt's son Jacob, who is always on his phone being an alt-right troll on social media. The entire family refers to him as a Nazi.

SPEAKER_01: 18:09

Yes.

SPEAKER_03: 18:09

Yeah, so good. Nazi child. Um, under questioning, Walt remembers that argument. Harlan wanted to let Walt go from the publishing company that Walt runs on behalf of his father. Walt anxiously asks Harlan if he is being fired, but Harlan pats his cheeks and says they'll talk about it the next day. It's like, boy, I mean, the old man was like, I want people to want to kill me at the end of my life. I want, you know, it's since I kind of just made them all this way. I'm gonna screw them over after I go. And it's kind of wild. It's like at that point, just let them have everything, right? I mean, I don't know. Why not? They're already ruined. I mean, they're they're not gonna learn anything in their old ages. No, they're not gonna learn anything. If anything, they'll just start selling off stuff and be like, okay, cool. So uh, but Walt tells the investigators something less serious in turn. Walt accuses Richard of also having an argument with Haaland. Harlan that night of the party in his office overhearing Harlan exclaim, You tell her I will. And essentially, Richard was just caught cheating. Uh yeah. Um, he was shown pictures like, Look, you gotta tell her I will, and I'm gonna leave it in this note.

SPEAKER_00: 19:22

Um backstabbin'. Everybody in this family's backstabbin.

SPEAKER_03: 19:25

Yeah. Um, but then Richard's like, no, we're just talking about uh putting Nana in a home, which is something he doesn't want. We also meet Joni Thrombey, who's kind of like a valet girl, he's like super into yoga. Um, love it. I like Joni okay.

SPEAKER_00: 19:41

Yeah, she's hilarious, maybe the least dangerous of all these people.

SPEAKER_03: 19:45

Yeah, right. And she's just kind of double dipping, you know. She honestly kind of didn't belong there, and the only reason she was there is because people liked Meg. It's like she's kind of gotta stay around because they want to make sure their brother's daughter is safe. Yeah. Um she's a widower of another. Harlan's son, she is a spiritful lifestyle guru and tells the investigators that she's still very close to the family even after her husband's death. However, the audience sees that Joni is barely tolerated at the family gathering gathering. Harlan pays Joni daughters, Meg's tuition at college. I love it. I love when she's dancing and everybody hates her. It's like, stop touching me. You're not a part of this family. That's so mean. Yeah, I know. She kind of deserves a little bit. Well, yeah, maybe. Um she she's definitely like she would not, she seems like a person that would not stuck around if they were just like a well-off to do family, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 20:36

Um there they billionaires because of the publishing company. Or they're just millions.

SPEAKER_03: 20:41

They're like it seemed like uh everything that was left to him was only 60 million.

SPEAKER_00: 20:45

But plus the but they said the real asset was the publishing company. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 20:49

So I'd assume at least probably like 500. Yeah. I don't know. It's not billionaires. It's kind of a fantastical world where people still really love books. Oh, I love books. Um, there's also Winnetta, great Nana Thrombe, who is Harlan's mother and is present at the party in the investigation. However, she is senile and rarely speaks.

SPEAKER_00: 21:07

She's so funny though. Yeah. At the same time.

SPEAKER_03: 21:10

Yeah, and then this is where we learn uh Linda and Richard's son, Ransom, is mentioned, but is not uh present to the investigators that are questioning everybody. Ransom is apparently his middle name, his first name is Hugh, but nobody calls him that besides the housekeeper friend, because only the helps allow to call him. Or only calls him Hugh, not allowed to call him Ransom. So before the party, Jacob, while in the bathroom macerating to dead deer, according to the family, overheard Ransom and Harlan in Harlan's office through the event. Ransom apparently had a blowout fight with Harlan, left to the house in a huff. Jacob had overheard Ransom say, I'm warning you during their fight. To the family's surprise, Minoir Blanc reveals that he is he was hired by anonymous, anonymous employer implies that Harlan was murdered by someone in the family. Lieutenant Elliott and Trooper Wagner insist that due to the blood pattern, no one could have been involved. But Blanc persists, he must know the truth of why he was hired. See, it's great. I love the fact that it was ransom that hired him. It's such a good idea because you never expect the person to hire the investigator to be the person that killed. And the clever ways of why he did it and how it all makes sense by the end. It's ugh. So good, dude. That was awesome. So Richard, knowing that Blanc will be searching for motives of Harlan's murder, he sneaks into Harlan's office and like finds a letter and he opens it and it's a blank sheet of paper. And he's like, ah ha ha ha ha, there's nothing on this, and then throws the baseball outside, which will be his demise. Um then he's like mutters under the breath, son of a bitch. Shouldn't have done that, shouldn't have thrown that ball out. So picking up the baseball while walking outside, Blanc recounts the timeline of death that he deduced by questioning all the family members. After the party, Harlan and Marta retired to his study to play Go and administered his medication before Harlan went to bed. Shortly before midnight, Joni heard a loud thunk from the study and went to investigate. Harlan answers the door with Marta busying herself in the corner. He explains Jin uh he explains to Joni that he tipped over the Go game board by accident and that everything is alright. Joni goes back to meditating. Waiting, what uh Walt was smoking outside of the porch and saw murder Marta leave her car at midnight. Linda's a light sleeper and often awoken by anyone using the creaky stairs leading to Harlan's study. She was awoken shortly after 1 a.m. and Walt sees Harlan going down the stairs to get a snack. He calls for Harlan to go back to bed, which he does. Linda was awoken again later by the family two dogs barking the fucking creaky stairs, and just Linda like, God dang it!

SPEAKER_00: 23:42

Everybody stop. So do they all live in the same house? Or are they all just coming in for the party? They all just came in for the birthday party, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 23:50

Um, and now staying for the festivities. I mean, that'd just be strange. No, they definitely don't live there. Um, so last to be questioned is Marta, who's anxiously sitting by his son's room, staring at a portrait of Harlan, uh, staring down at her. She sneaks to the window to overhear investigators outside, and Blanc surprises her. Classic. He invites her outside and explains that he wanted to question her last because he knows she will tell the truth. Turns out Marta throws up if she lies.

SPEAKER_00: 24:18

Sucks for her.

SPEAKER_03: 24:20

Yeah. So Blanc asks her point blank if Richard was cheating on Linda. She says no, then immediately vomits into a decorative vessel. Blanc then asks her to describe what went on after the party. Ryan Johnson at this point was just in love with like these kind of whodunit things. Really? And uh, because he also did Poker Face. Okay. Which is um his show where the uh Columbo-esque character is like can always tell when people are telling the truth. And now she has a murderer.

SPEAKER_00: 24:50

Well, she can tell when they're lying.

SPEAKER_03: 24:51

Yeah, tell tell when they're lying, yeah. And in this, it's like, oh, the person, if she lies, she throws up. And it's like, he really had a quirk for that for a minute. Uh-huh. So Martyr remembers the truth. Once they're in his study after the party, she wants to give him his medications right away. So Harlan goes to bed at a reasonable time, but he insists playing the game Go with her. She indulges him, and Harlan teases her ability to always beat him at Go, which will be important.

SPEAKER_00: 25:14

I like the relationship. She's just like, Can't you just take your medicine and go to bed? He's almost like a child.

SPEAKER_03: 25:19

It's like, I want to play games. He's like constantly getting up to no good, almost kind of like a Yoda-esque character, like when we first meet Yoda. Yeah. Did you ever play Go? I've never played it. I don't know if I if I have or I haven't. There's a game on um on the Switch we have that has a bunch of like a shit ton of like old games and board games. And I think I've played this. Um me and Natalie likes to play. But I couldn't tell because it looks like the game that we've tried before, but they weren't like usually if you like um put like your pieces on the outside of their pieces, like it changes the whole row to like your colors, and it didn't seem like they were doing that. I know. It's apparently a Chinese game that was made over 2,500 years ago.

SPEAKER_00: 26:02

So it's a pretty famous game. I just never played it.

SPEAKER_03: 26:05

It looks fun though. It seems like you just play really fast, which is great. Um very strategic. Yeah. She tells him she isn't playing to win, she just likes making a beautiful pattern. She's just a perfect little angel. He pretends there's an earthquake, knocks over the board, motor rolls her eyes, and goes in her medical bed. Uh hit get to give him his two nightly medications. She administeres him with a syringe and his arm while he confides in her that he's not sure if he did right by his family. He takes a display knife from a stand and mentions how he can't tell which knives are real and which ones are props. Sure, it won't come back to play later.

SPEAKER_00: 26:41

That one's definitely not a prop. He stabs it into the table. Yeah. Sharp as hell.

SPEAKER_03: 26:46

Good thing he had one knife in there. How would he kill himself? So he stabs a knife in the trunk and they're using it as a table for the game. It's a real knife and it's sharp. It's clear during the exchange that Marta and Harlan are very fond of each other. Marta winks at Harlan and asks if he'd like something for his pain. He'd like to do some drugs. You know, do some morphine, baby. He laughs and says yes, and she gives it to him. But she realizes she read the vials wrong. No, Marta. She gave him 100 milligrams of morphine instead of another medication. Normally she gives him 30, and 100 will kill him in 10 minutes unless she can administrate it, the counteract it. Maloxone, I think something. And then we learned even if she calls paramedics, they won't get there in time.

SPEAKER_00: 27:27

I love how calm he is during all this. He's like, this would be a perfect way to kill someone.

SPEAKER_03: 27:31

Yeah. He's like, ooh, maybe I'll add this into like one of my stories, and then he's like, Oh, you can't find it. And immediately steps into the action. It's like, I've waited my whole life to come up with a situation like this.

SPEAKER_00: 27:46

Um is in a really good up like opportune position to help people get away with murder.

SPEAKER_03: 27:52

I know, right? And it all would have worked if this, you know, things didn't work. Those darn kids. Those darn kids. So she starts to call 911, but Harlan stops her. He knows he's gone and wants to save Martha because he knows his mother is an undocumented immigrant, will be deported if Mart Martha's investigated. Undeterred, Martha starts to run up for help.

SPEAKER_00: 28:11

Uh why isn't anyone else in the family nice? Like Harlan.

SPEAKER_03: 28:16

Because uh the rich. They didn't they were born into uh what do you call it? Uh opportunity. Yeah, privilege. Privilege, yeah. They're all privileged. They didn't know struggle. So, and I'm sure Harlan at one point did, so he had like uh his wits about him as he started to get rich. Yeah. Um, which is why all the rich people in our world spend so they all were rich before. Yes. Even born.

SPEAKER_00: 28:44

Um I like how they say that they built themselves from the ground up.

SPEAKER_03: 28:48

None of them did. It was only Harlan just gave him money. That was it every time. So great. So she wants to go downstairs to help, but he trips her before he gets to the floor and she falls to the floor. This was a thump that Joni heard when Joni knocks. Harlan insists that he'll take care of it and gets uh and gets Marta to face the corner so she can answer Joni. Harlan, as Harlan speaks with Joni, we see that Marta is starting to cry. After Joni leaves, Harlan gives her specific instructions and assists that she must do as he says. Marta must make it obvious when she's leaving. This is when Walt sees her at leave at midnight. As she drives off, she doesn't she's supposed to like turn after the elephant, but she turns before because she can't remember it. And I love that the narration kind of changes as she's remembering. That was really like the before after the stuff. The movie is so fucking smart. Um, yeah, so she can't remember if she drives, she pulls off too soon, and the security camera can see her. But she turns off the road, she then sneaks back via side gate. The two dogs are there, but they like her, so uh they greet her without her barking. She gets into the house, climb up it, climbing up a trellis into a false window to the floor of his bedroom. Um, but the trellis, like it breaks and falls to the ground.

SPEAKER_00: 30:00

It's like, don't make any noise, and she's like breathing heavily and going, oh.

SPEAKER_03: 30:07

Um it's gonna be tough for her. Yeah, right. I wouldn't, I was just like, I'm actually just not gonna do it, I'm just gonna leave. Um, she goes to Harlan's bedroom, puts on his robe and hat, and pretends to be Harlan going down the stairs to get a snack. This is when Linda hears the stairs and Walt sees Harlan from the porch. This is her alibi that Harlan was alive well after Marta left. She then leaves the way she came down the trellis. The last thing that Harlan tells her is that absolutely she must not be seen. But in her memory, as she lands on the ground, mission fulfilled, she turns to the window and sees Great Nana staring at her. And she's like, Ransom, are you back already? Martha runs away.

SPEAKER_00: 30:50

You sounding like that old guy from Major Pain. Really? You always you know what I'm talking about. I can't remember his name right now.

SPEAKER_03: 30:56

I was trying to, she almost sounds like um, like the secretary in Monsters Incorporated. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. She sounds a lot like her. That's what I was trying to go for. So knowing that the fate of her mother rested in her hands, Marta follows Harlan's instructions about how to describe what happened that night uh without throwing up. She carefully tells Blanc a truncated version, essentially that they played Go, she gave him his medication, then she left. Blanc accepts her vision of events, then tells her to plan on investigating the rest of the grounds, and he wants her to shadow him as he does so to give him context. So um throughout this film, he says, Ah, he mentions shoe a lot. Ah, the shoe is on another foot. He does mention shoes a lot. Because, you know, by the end of the movie, he's like, You got blood on your shoe. He's just constantly saying it, trying to make her like tell the story.

SPEAKER_00: 31:47

It's like it's probably so he picked it up immediately.

SPEAKER_03: 31:49

Yeah, he immediately knew she was a part of it somehow. So, unlike the other family members, he trusts her because she has a good heart. Marta, unable to get out of the situation without incriminating herself, accepts, then manages to leave the bat to the bathroom. She then throws up. It's like, I was like, you couldn't run to like a further bathroom or something because it's gonna be pretty obvious that you just threw up right outside. Maybe she's a quiet puker.

SPEAKER_00: 32:15

I'm not.

SPEAKER_03: 32:16

I've never been. Me neither. I feel like that's very much a guy thing where we're like, because when we get sick, we're like, you have to give it as much force as possible. I always have trouble because when I do have to throw up, I can never just throw up. It's always like five minutes of just unbearable dry heaving. And then it's like, oh, you couldn't. Why do I even have to throw away up? Yeah, I wonder, I wonder how that works.

SPEAKER_00: 32:38

Because sometimes you get a good one out and you feel so much better.

SPEAKER_03: 32:41

Yeah. The more I dry heave, the more I know this is gonna be a lasting thing.

unknown: 32:46

Oh no.

SPEAKER_03: 32:47

It's like, no, it took like three hours for me to actually throw up. I'm donezo.

SPEAKER_00: 32:51

Never want to be sick again. Me neither.

SPEAKER_03: 32:53

So later that day, the family holds a memorial for Harlan. Marta has a panic attack, knowing she was the one responsible for Harlan's death. Meg pulls her aside, asking if she wants to leave. They go to another room uh to sit and pull out some joints in a secret drawer in the trophy, uh, in a trophy above the fireplace. This was Fran's secret stash. Nice. Uh Marta refuses the joint and Meg shrugs and throws it into the fire after taking one puff. I was like, what are you doing? They've got more. You smoked one one puff, just let it out, put it back in the little thing.

SPEAKER_00: 33:25

So wasteful.

SPEAKER_03: 33:26

I know. It's rich people shit. Walt joins them later to tell Marta that they want to take care of her financially, and they all seem like nice people that will do the right thing, you know, by her. Too bad it's all gonna go horrible when they figure things out. So that night when she goes home, she watches a TV program in Spanish with her mother.

SPEAKER_00: 33:46

Murder Shiro.

SPEAKER_03: 33:49

She then recalls what happened after she left Harlan's studies. After leaving the first time, she goes back into the study to tell Harlan she changed her mind, only to find him lying on the couch with a knife held to his own neck. She pleads with him, but he only assures her that everything will be all right before slitting his own throat. It's like, hey, let her get out, man. Well, I guess it was like, nope, can't stop me.

SPEAKER_00: 34:10

Well, you thought he thought he was gonna die, but he also wasn't having like those sweats or any of the symptoms.

SPEAKER_03: 34:16

Yeah, you figured he'd be like, Wait, she's been gone.

SPEAKER_00: 34:19

She's the medical professional. She should have been like, you should have been having these symptoms by.

SPEAKER_03: 34:22

I would at least wait till I start getting like shakes or something, then I'd be like, All right. Yeah, maybe I don't know. But yeah, I'd just be like, when would I feel it? Because you feel like you'd feel the morphine pretty quick, oh yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00: 34:34

I feel especially intervenously. Yeah. Like I feel like you could feel it instantly.

SPEAKER_03: 34:39

If there was one issue with this whole movie, it's that it doesn't. I just don't know how morphine works. I've never had it.

SPEAKER_00: 34:46

Well, I feel like, but when you're over I've never had it either, except at like the hospital or something. I don't know. But like I've taken I've over kind of like slightly you call it overdosing on pain medication before, but it makes you sick and like immediately. So I don't know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 35:05

If there was any issue with the movie, it would be the morphine aspect of like I wouldn't he be like wonky at least a little bit. Especially going straight to your vein. Yeah, I think he would have been able to feel it. Yeah, exactly. Oh well. She gasps in horror and covers her mouth to stifle a scream, then rushes out of the study again. She pauses at the landing to cry, then pulls herself together. She's going through, she's gonna get through this for her mother. And back up home, Marta holds her mother's hand, the camera pans down, and this is where we see her fidgeting, and then on a little piece of blood on her white sneakers um that she wears throughout the whole movie. Um yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 35:42

So like that was a big gush, gush of blood hit all the way across the room. Yeah, that's a big one right there on the neck. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 35:49

I don't know how far it shoots, but damn. Like eighty. Really?

SPEAKER_00: 35:52

Golly. Well, I mean, that's what it looks like from the room.

SPEAKER_03: 35:55

Yeah. So the next morning, Marta joins Blanc and the investigators examine the grounds, the security camera uh that recorded um her leaving. It was on VHS tape, and she's lucky because she gets to push play and stuff. So she puts it in, and they're like, This is the only tape, and she starts to play it, and then she likes, oh, it's ejected randomly. And they're like, Let's digitize it. And then she puts like a magnet over it to scramble it.

SPEAKER_00: 36:21

It's great. I love how the security guard is just old as dirt. And he's talking about how we've got now we've got all this new technology, and it's just like from the 90s. Yeah, it's like it's like when did this take place?

SPEAKER_03: 36:33

Jeez. It's like I guess they were just like, No one's if no one killed my father yet, they're just not gonna do it. We'll just we'll just keep it VHS. So walking ahead of the group towards the side entrance, Marta realizes that her shoe prints from sneaking back can be seen in the muddy path. Just as Blanc realizes he could examine the shoe prints playing clueless, she walks back towards she walks like through the mud so that her footprints would already be there. And then like, no, no, don't, don't, no. And then she's like, What? I can't hear you, and then walks back through, and then all the dogs come in and it's like, God dang it. So good. Um, so getting to the side of the house, Blanc some surmises that someone could have snuck back into the house using the trellis. One of the dogs comes to Marta carrying the broken piece of trellis in his mouth. She realizes that Blanc can see it and just eats it. I love it. The shot of it where he's just like, hmm, I do say somebody could have climbed up that you just see Marta like, oh shit, throw it off. The dog goes, gets it. Yeah, it's like, thank God. My dog would immediately would have probably brought it to Blanc and be like, play with me, play with me. That's what he did, isn't he? Well, it brought it to Marta, but my dog would have like, I want to go to the person I don't know. I love them more than my family. So the group goes inside and upstairs. Marta shows them the false window accessible by the trellis. Blanc examines the rug leading from the window and notes that there's fresh mud on the window ledge. There's commotion outside, ransom is back. Wait, no, I got that wrong. There is not fresh mud. They don't notice the window ledge yet. There is commotion outside, ransom is back, peeling in on his BMW. The two dogs rush and bark aggressively at him, and he huffs at them in annoyance. The investigators meet him on the porch and he like rebuffs them. He's like, Yeah, I don't fucking care. Yeah, we're talking about the family is upset that Ransom only showed up now, missing the funeral for the memorial, and is only early for the will reading later on that day. They tell him he is useless and that Harlan planned on cutting him off, but he only tells them to eat shit. Eat shit, eat shit, eat shit.

SPEAKER_00: 38:37

I feel like he he knew like he knew what was gonna happen at this point, right? Yeah. And so he just came back to watch it.

SPEAKER_03: 38:43

Yeah, because he knows that Marta's gonna get everything. So he's like, I'm here for the show.

SPEAKER_00: 38:47

Well, he may not even have known that that's what he learned on his birthday, is that all this was gonna happen. I thought he just found out that none of them were gonna get anything.

SPEAKER_03: 38:56

Yeah, no, he knows that like everybody is screwed.

SPEAKER_00: 38:58

I would watch that too.

SPEAKER_03: 38:59

Yeah, I'd be like, well, already know, might as well enjoy my family. Getting it.

SPEAKER_00: 39:05

Can't like to watch it collapse.

SPEAKER_03: 39:06

Yeah. Um, this isn't new. At some point during Harlan's 85th birthday party, they all started arguing about politics. Joni wants to protect undocumented immigrants, while Richard yells drunkenly that they should follow the law. Well, also believes that undocumented immigrants should be allowed to stay, which he will not say later. Um, but yeah, I love it because Marta's like, oh, I gotta get out of here for this conversation.

SPEAKER_00: 39:29

And then he's dragged into it.

SPEAKER_03: 39:31

And then I love, he's like, Marta, come here. You're an immigrant. You're an immigrant. And I love it. Every time they talk say where she's from, they get it, they say that they say something completely different. And Richard also, when she walks up, he hands him an empty, dirty plate. Oh, yeah, she's just the service. He's like, She's a nurse. It's like such a dick. Yeah. Um so yeah, he calls her in, it's like trying to make an example of like, hey, you got here the right way, right? Um but Marta's in silence. She's not wanting to lie because she'll throw up. Seeing the everything happening, blank size and comforts Marta, then leaving so he can finish the rest of the investigation. As he leaves, one of the dogs brings him the trellis piece. He looks up, putting the pieces together. He's like, oh shit. And then they go up and they realize that there's the mud on the rug and stuff, and that there's mud on the uh window. He's like, Oh, we can examine this rug.

SPEAKER_00: 40:27

I don't think I would have noticed the like the window, because he he kind of immediately saw it. He's like, Wait, where's that window go to? Yeah. I never would have noticed that. Right.

SPEAKER_03: 40:37

But he is the best in because they uh the reason they're the poirot. Yeah, they all they all know him because of like a New Yorker uh uh um article about him, and apparently the entire family reads the New Yorker. So I think you have to when you're rich. Yeah, it's like what else are we gonna do? We're rich because we don't play video games and we get things done. We don't have any distractions, so we just read. Which I mean, of course they'd all be readers. They their father is a book writer. Yeah. I'm assuming they probably read so much. That'd be Twait. Yeah. Twait. Um, so then we cut to the will readings. The married couples all hold each other in support, thinking that we'll get a big chump of Harlan's estate. You have uh ransom in the corner just like smiling really big, and it's like, what's his deal? Yeah, uh the will executor opens the legal documents and begins reading it. Turns out Harlan amended his will shortly before his death. His new will left his entire estate and all his publishing rights to Marta, leaving his family with nothing. Hell yeah. He wanted his family to learn how to live for themselves and assist in a letter that it's for the best. And it's like, that's how you end up dying early. I'd be so mad. Yeah, for real. It's like, could you have threatened me about it first and then I would have done something different? Like he immediately just pulled the rug out from under him.

SPEAKER_00: 42:00

Because they all would have would just it would have just been fake forever until he died.

SPEAKER_03: 42:05

Yeah, exactly. But it's just like at that point, it's like, man, I don't know, you raised him. You you you showed him all this. I don't know. So the ex family explodes once more in disbelief. Ransom's sitting in a corner by himself, laughs and reads the room. Marta is in a state of shock, and the family starts to surround her, demanding answers she doesn't have. They hound Marta outside as she tries to escape in a car, but her car won't start. And then Ransom pulls up in his BMWs and he's like, get in and then drive off. That's what I was thinking, too. Yeah. I'm like, I bet he like messed with it. Yeah. So the family tries to understand what happened and why Harlan would cut them off. It discovered that uh Joni had been double dipping. Harlan has been paying Meg's tuition directly into school, but in a clerical oversight, Joni also got the same money herself in a flashback. Harlan says he will sign one last check for her and no more. It's like he figured, just like I'll just start going straight to Meg with the check. She's the only one really in this family that has a heart at this point. At this point. She's still one of them. Yeah. Well, we'll get to it. So the family tries to find loopholes. I love that. Because you have like the guy, the wheel guy there, and he's to keep saying, There's nothing I can do. Can I leave, please? And you have like the um his like assistant falling falling asleep on the couch because it's been like a whole day of them just yelling at him. Jeez.

SPEAKER_00: 43:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 43:27

Sucks.

SPEAKER_00: 43:28

Um, you're useless.

SPEAKER_03: 43:30

Yeah, it's like, exactly. I'm out of here. Um and they all start googling stuff. One of the loopholes they find is the slayer statue. Uh, if Marta is responsible for Harlan's death, she would not get a cent. This is another reason why Harlan helped her cover it up. Ransom takes Marta to a diner and gets her to eat us eat since she hasn't been eating all day, and he tells her that he knew they would be cut off and that maybe it's time he lived for himself on his own. But he still wants the truth. He reminds her that she'd just eaten, that she can't lie without throwing up, and then places an empty bowl in front of her. Ransom then asks Marta, telling him everything.

SPEAKER_00: 44:08

It was thoughtful though.

SPEAKER_03: 44:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 44:11

Yeah. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_03: 44:16

Like, yeah, at least I got you this bowl. That's when he should immediately have been like, I can't trust him. No, yeah. He is not gonna be a good guy in this. So it's a little later on after this. You could tell she told the whole story because there's just a shit ton of beer bottles now around Ransom. Uh, Ransom has a lot of empty beer bottles now. So uh Ransom says he will help Marta get away with it, like destroying the toxology report uh or anything that might implicate her. He hates his family that much and knows how fond Harlan was of Marta. Ransom always thought he was the only one capable of beating Harlan at Go, but Marta, Martha, Marta did it all the time. Um but he will only help on the condition that she gives him his share of Harlan's estate. It's a win-win, she agrees. In for a penny, in for a pound. Um, and he takes her back to the family's home. So um at some point during the night, Meg calls Marta. Meg tries to convince Marta to renounce her for inheritance entirely since it's the right thing to do.

SPEAKER_00: 45:17

Oh man, I hated her so much in that phone call. I knew there were other people around.

SPEAKER_03: 45:21

Yeah, well, I mean, they're obviously forced her to do it. She was like crying and didn't want to do it. Because she seems like the only one that's like, no, I'm pro Marta, and like I don't care. So she didn't She didn't do it because she wanted to. Oh, okay. Because like when the call ends, she like turns and like cries, and they're all like, Yay, yes, do our bidding.

SPEAKER_00: 45:42

I just thought it was so selfish of her to hang up as soon as she heard Marta say she was gonna be taken care of. Yeah, she just ends the phone call.

SPEAKER_03: 45:51

Yeah. But no, I think it's just like she I don't even think Meg wanted to hear that. I think she was just like, I feel shitty for even asking this. Yes. So I think Meg would have been better if I think she would have been smart about it and she would have just been like, All right, let her have it, and then be like, Hey Marta, um, do you think you could help pay for my stuff? Yeah. That's what I would have done. I'd been like, okay, okay. Yeah. Well, I'm not gonna screw anybody over and then I'm gonna ask. Because then later, when Marta gets back to the house, Meg goes to her and it's like, I'm so sorry they made me do it, or something like that. So Marta always thought that they were friends, talking to Meg. Marta assures Meg that she will use Harlan's money to pay tuition for her. Um, so the next day, Marta is surprised to see a ton of press and news vans outside her house. It's been discovered that she's a sole inheritor of Harlan's estate. She tries to sneak out back, but Waltz is waiting. Goddamn, he's cracking with that cane. Yeah. He tries to convince her that they can help her handle the uh attention and the situation she's in, vaguely threaten her with a cane and with the uh deportation of her mother. He's like, We have those resources. And then Marvel.

SPEAKER_00: 46:59

I love Marta for this. She fucking crushes it.

SPEAKER_03: 47:02

She's like, Oh, well, then if I have all those resources, I think I'll be able to handle it myself. It's like, yeah, girl. He's like, no way, no, no, and then she like runs in and like shuts the door, and then she looks through all her mail and she sees like a blank um envelope. Um, and we see that it's a top half of the Harlan's Toxology report, and the um the bottom half is missing, but there's a handwritten message declaring, I know what you did. Yeah, yeah. In a panic, she calls ransom. It's like, no, stop calling the wood guy you don't need to call. And then we get a scene where Blanc sits with the great Nana. It's like, oh I love old age or whatever. Trying to get her to open up. Yeah, and it's like, you're a mighty fine young woman or whatever. I could see her all day with you. And you see, Nana is like finally has like something behind her eyes for once. He's like, Oh, he's talking to me.

SPEAKER_00: 47:57

Um but they all treat it like shit.

SPEAKER_03: 47:59

Yeah. Um, and then yeah, and then the scene cuts away, and then next scene is the firefighters arrive at a massive fire at the county medical's examiner's office. Elliot, Wagner, and Blanc show up too. It turns out the toxology report and any blood samples are gone. Ransom and Marta show up in Marta's car. They're shocked to see the office on fire. Ransom asks Marta if anyone blackmailed her for the toxology report, and she checks her email on her phone. She did get a mysterious email from an unknown sender that morning asking to meet at 1690 Columbus Street at 10 a.m. It's 9 30. So they have to leave now to make the meeting. I love it. She looks up from her car and then like Blanc turns around and say, Hey. She starts trying to drive off. Like, all right, baby driver, calm down.

SPEAKER_00: 48:44

She panics a lot.

SPEAKER_03: 48:45

Yeah. Um, and yeah, so she like peels out as best as she can with her beat up car. Um, and then I love it. It's like, I can't wait. Okay. So and then um Ransom complains that they should have taken his car because it's not going fast, and everybody all the cars caught up to him so quickly. Blunt tries to call her several times, even like drives up next to her and is like, answer your phone. Um, but she ignores. She manages to evade them by driving down several side alleys because she has a tiny car and all their big cars couldn't go through. Um, she and Ransom start to make a plan about getting the Toxology report and destroying it until Elliot knocks on her window. It's like, get out. That was the stupidest car chase of all car chases.

SPEAKER_00: 49:31

Did she did her phone get destroyed at some point in the movie? Or did it be? No, it's just broken. It's just all to show her that she's poor.

SPEAKER_03: 49:37

Yeah. If uh to if you want to know if someone's poor, they have a broken phone.

SPEAKER_00: 49:41

That's true, man.

SPEAKER_03: 49:42

Not even poor, just like middle class, lower middle class at least. Um, so it's over now, except that they lead Ransom away from frisking him, away after frisking him. Ransom looks at her, uh, like kind of like stick to the plan type situation. Blanc asks Marta if Ransom asked her to drive and she says yes. Then she runs, gets inside her car real quick to throw up. And then Blanc's like, I'm gonna ride with you. Oh no. She just threw up in there. Yeah, it's like it's gonna smell like vomit, which I'm sure you probably smelt. Blanc joined her, intending them to drive back to the thrombie home so she can give the final report to the family. Then they start driving, and then Marta's like, Hey, I gotta stop somewhere. And he's like, Sure, why not? Because he's just so long for the ride at this point. He's like, Where are you going? If you're going somewhere, it'd only help me at this point. Yeah. Um, and then Blanc just sits on the car as she goes in and looks none of the wiser. And she, I love it because she goes into one shop, goes out the back door, and then goes into the little wherever building she's supposed to go into. Um, so yeah, they're in this abandoned laundry mat, and Marta, it's dark, and Marta finds her medical bag on the floor near the door. There is still a there's a still figure sitting in the chair in the middle of the room. Marta says she intends to get the report no matter what, but the figure doesn't move. She comes closer, uses her iPhone, flashlight to see, and it's Fran with a spider on her face. Spiders always be on people's faces after you die. It's wild. Spiders love dead people. Um, but uh she seems dead, but oh uh overdose, presumably, from a morphine vial on the floor. Marta gasps, and Fran also grasps a gasp because she's alive. Marta gets her spiders. Marta gets her to the floor to try and free her. Fran sputters. You did this. We'll figure out later. It wasn't you, it was something else. Marta debates what to do, choosing Fran or her mother's fate, but ultimately her good heart wins out. She calls 911 and starts CPR on Fran because she's a good person. Oh yeah. Blanc outside, just like listening to some fucking music, baby. Like, hell yeah. As a bunch of like ambulances coming from behind. He's like, Whoa, what the hell? Well, I say, I say. I do decline. He finds Marta upset, and Marta tells him the entire truth, unable to run any longer. Blanc says, ransom corroborated to story, and then takes them back to the thrombie home. The hospital will call Marta with any updates on Fran. Man. I made a very wordy, wordy. I feel like you have to with a movie like this because it's like the details are you have to have every detail. Otherwise, when I explain it, whenever I go through the ending, it'll be like, ah, okay. Just in case you're listening and you miss something, you know, right? Right. So back at the thrombie home, Meg hugs Marta and apologizes. In the dramat in uh the living room where the elaborate knife thrown display is, Marta begins to tell the family that she accidentally killed Harlan. When Blanc dramatically interrupts, telling the entire family off for being entitled brats. Yeah. Marta, completely confused, asks what is going on. Blanc throws the entire family out of the room, whispering to Wagner to bring one of them in later. He's going to make his final report to the investigators. Blanc always knew he had something missing. A donut. It's a circle with a hole in the middle. Like a donut. Within a donut. Apparently, Ryan Johnson wanted to um wanted to cut that out. Uh, because he's like, it's too silly. And uh Daniel Craig was like, No, it's like everything about this film is all about this donut. Because even like the knives is a giant circle with a hole missing in the middle. And it's like shmack.

SPEAKER_00: 53:26

Yeah, it wouldn't been, yeah, it wouldn't have worked, even though that's more Cajun. Yeah. Like Blanc.

SPEAKER_03: 53:32

Blanc. Yeah, that actually probably would have been. But they don't have holes in the marbles. Yeah. Oh shit. So Blanc always knew he had something missing, but speaking with Great Nana and hearing Marta's full story has finally explained everything to him. The way that Marta told him. Ransom was fixated on Marta's relationship with Harlan and felt robbed that Marta would get everything. Because this is when it uh this was a big deal when he learned that Marta was able to beat him at Go. He's like, that was my one thing with Harlan. And now you have that and all the money. Um so Um, that's what their fight at the party was about. Ransom discovered what the amended will said and threatened Harlan. Um, Wagner brings in Ransom and Blanc tells the entire story. Ransom is aware the only way that Marta will not get Harlan's money is if she is a responsible for his death. So Ransom frames her. After leaving in a huff, he climbed up the trellis to sneak back into the house during the party. Great Nana also saw him leave the house via the trellis, hence her saying she's oh Ransom, you're back already. When Marta did the same thing later that night, having had some previous medical training, ransom switched the liquid in the two vials and removed the morphine counteragent from Marta's medical bags, and he expected Marta to read the labels and accidentally overdose Harlan on morphine. But Marta actually gave Harlan the right medications, unaware that the medications had been switched already. She had relied on the feel of the liquid in the bottles to tell her what they were instead of relying on the labels because she's a good nurse. If Harlan had allowed her to call 911 and gotten checked out, he would have lived. Harlan's death is not Marta's fault. It is a suicide.

SPEAKER_00: 55:16

Damn, that sucks. Yeah. Um really thought he was gonna die.

SPEAKER_03: 55:20

And then Ransom had intended on sneaking back into the house later that night to return the counteragent to Marta's bag, further incriminating her, but the two dogs barked at him and at the side gate, waking Linda, uh, which matches all the timelines and stuff. Hell yeah. After Harlan was discovered with a slit throat, Ransom needed to do more. Knowing that the medical examiner would look at the blood pattern and conclude suicide, he needed someone to further investigate and find the overdose. So he sent Blanc an envelope of cash, an article about Harlan's death. That's how he that's how Blanc was hired. Right.

SPEAKER_00: 55:52

A huge stack of cash. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 55:54

But there was like, I am investigating. Because when you get a stack this big, but there was a hitch in his plan. Ransom had to skip the funeral so he could avoid his family and the investigators in the house to return the counteragent to Marta's bag, but the house wasn't empty. Fran saw Ransom rummaging in Marta's bag and knew he was up to no good. So Fran had a cousin at the medical examiner's office. So she got a copy of the toxology report then threatened Ransom with it. Ransom made a copy of the threat and slipped it into Marta's mail slot. Ransom, knowing that the call of the toxicology report would not show an overdose, threw a Molotov cocktail through the Medical's Examiner office window. Because when they were sitting there at the diner, the one information that um he got was shit, she didn't know. She didn't give him the right overdose. Right. Because, like as she explained it, it's like he was thinking, Oh, she didn't do it wrong at all. Yeah. So he's like, crap, now I have to go and burn this place down. Um, but Fran still had two copies, one of which she hid in a drawer with the joints. Nice. With uh which once again, weed saves the day, which Blanc pulls out to show the investigators Fran intended to meet Ransom at 19 at 1690 Columbus Street at the same day. She tried to threaten him, but he chloroformed her and stabbed her in the neck with a syringe full of morphine. Ransom's morphine crazy. What is this guy? Sandwich crazy? So while leaving, he burned the toxology report. He then sent the anonymous email to Marta asking to meet at the same place at 10 a.m. where she would find Fran's body. But he didn't expect that Marta would sacrifice her own future and her mother's future by saving Fran. And Fran wasn't saying you did this, she was really saying you did this. Fran was the only person who referred to Ransom by his first name. Um and it's like she did the right thing, and that's what saved the day. So Marta gets a call from the hospital. I mean, hold on before we just get there. I mean, fucking great, right? What a great reveal. All of it. Where it's just like Ransom was just like, shit, this happened. Shit, this happened, shit, this happened. And it's like you think that like he's just like a privileged shithead, and it's why he didn't come to all this, and he's doing all this because he's an asshole, but no, he's a murderer. Yeah, so it's like, and it's weird. I feel like that's oh, I'll just go ahead and say, I feel like that's kind of what the movie is kind of saying. It's like, hey, all these assholes that we're just like, no, they're just assholes. No, if they redirect how much of an asshole they want to be into killing someone, they might be pretty good at it.

SPEAKER_00: 58:30

They wouldn't do anything not to lose their livelihood.

SPEAKER_03: 58:33

Yeah, exactly. Um, so don't trust assholes again.

SPEAKER_00: 58:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 58:36

So Marta gets a call from the hospital. She announces to the group that Fran's going to be okay, and she'll be ready to talk soon. In a rage, Ransom confesses to everything and tells Marta she doesn't deserve the money like he does because he was born into the privilege, and she wasn't. He's finally stopped by Marta projectile vomiting all over his face. Let's go, so good. Um, Wagner and Elliot try to come to her aid, but she says she's all right and waves them off, wiping her mouth. They realize she must have lied, and she did. Fran is dead, and Ransom just confessed to the murder. Uh, and it was all being recorded on Wagner's phone. Ransom says in resignation, in for a penny, in for a pound. And then grabs a knife from the display of the throw and he rushes towards Marta. They both fall to the ground, knife embedded in Marta's chest, but she's still breathing and there's no blood. Ransom pulls the knife away, he grabbed, uh he's grabbed a prop knife and he exclaims, Shit. Oh, Chris Evan's so fucking good in this period. And then he's pulled off Marta. Blanc has one last conversation with Marta saying that he wouldn't help that family in any way, but that she'll make the right decisions. She asked Blanc when he knew she was uh there when Harlan died, and he says from the first moment he saw her, because of the drop of blood on her shoe. Um, he he's known the whole time but believed in her good heart. She looks at the smiling portrait of Harlan. I love it. She's like, um, it's like you would have never figured any of this out with me. It's like, you're a bad detective. It's like you're a bad murderer. Or sorry, sorry detective and sorry murderer or something like that. So Richard is arguing with investigators outside while ransom is being led away in handcuffs. At the same time, Linda, who uh one of the dogs brought the little baseball, goes and puts it back into Harlan's office, notices the letter, um, the blank letter that was going to be sent to her, and she's like, hmm, fun. Goes outside, lights up her cigarette or her lighter, and then like puts it under it, and it it's invisible ink, revealed with fire. Then looks at him, and then Richard looks back at her and is like, oh no. Sees that she's holding the letter. Oh Richard. Yeah, and then so she drops a cigarette from her mouth and glares at Richard. The family gathers outside and watches ransom being driven away. They look back at the house and upward. Marta is there on the second floor balcony, balcony, looking down at them all, sipping from a mug, declaring, My house. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:04

Yeah, I wouldn't let them back in.

SPEAKER_03: 1:01:06

Yeah, yeah, definitely be like, I'm calling the cops, get out of here.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:09

This is my house.

SPEAKER_03: 1:01:10

Yes. Technically, when does it well, I guess once the will is read, it officially becomes their house.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:16

Oh, it has to go through probate. Probate.

SPEAKER_03: 1:01:18

And don't you have to like sign all the paperwork and then do you have to like pay taxes and stuff on it? Or probably, yeah. Which probably wouldn't be a big issue. For her now, yeah. So Jason, fucking good movie. It was awesome. I don't know how good of a podcast it would be. It's 'cause just me reading a book essentially.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:38

It's okay. It was like reliving the movie while you were talking about it.

SPEAKER_03: 1:01:42

I was kind of worried because when I was, you know, like doing all this, I was like, oh no, there's so much to say. Should I just truncate it? But I was like, every time I get to the new scene, I'm like, well, I have to put this, this, and this, and this, and this, and this, and like, no. So I left some of like the quotes and stuff out, all the great quotes, but truncate's a fun word. Truncate would say, yeah. It sounds something like Benoit Blanc would say. Well, I say I do truncate. So, Jason, what do you think the point of the movie is? Be a good person, maybe? I don't know. That's why I kind of put it's uh the lack of greed and a pure heart will always point you in the right direction. And don't be a dick, because if you are, you can eat shit.

SPEAKER_00: 1:02:19

Don't be a dick.

SPEAKER_03: 1:02:21

Yeah. And then it's also, I think it's just like, look, if people, you know, people with the wealth and privilege, if they are assholes to you, they do not fucking care about you. And as soon as you get something that they want, they will turn on you. Yes. So, you know, like uh, let's say if a billionaire, a former billionaire, I don't know, runs something or you know, and tells you anything, uh, they're probably lying because they only care about making more money and not, you know, helping you out talking about uh anybody. I do like how they also uh brought up immigration and like the all the stuff that 2019 were all yelling about because it's you know the Trump stuff, which that's like I mean, this obviously a movie kind of like you know has the haze of the Trump era over it, and then Glass Onion has the haze of COVID over it. Yeah. Um, I think this one's kind of a little bit more clever, and it's not like hitting you over the head of like what he's like, hey, you you see what I'm trying to say here versus glass onion, where you're like, all right, man, you haven't seen glass onion. You were on Twitter around this time. I get it. So that's the only thing that kind of hinders that one a little bit. But yeah, um, the point of the movie is don't be a dick. Right? Don't be a dick. If you got money, you don't have to be an asshole. Oh. Jason looks like he's got a lot of money right now.

SPEAKER_00: 1:03:42

I got a fucking Chris Evans esque wearing a cardigan esque like sweater. So it's laundry day, and the only pair of pants I had to wear today were these fancy ones.

SPEAKER_03: 1:03:54

I just noticed how nice those pants were just whenever I said out what you were wearing. And I was like, damn, this is some nice pants. It goes great with your sweaters. It's like, sheesh, sweeping me off my feet. My laptop's growing because of an erection. The joke, it's sitting on my lap and it's growing from an erection. That's the joke. Yeah. All right, Jason. The good, the bad, the ugly, the fine. It's where we discussed the good of a film, something we liked, the bad, something we didn't like, the ugly, something that uh didn't age well, and the fine, something that did age well. I put the acting and the characters. Yeah, I think I can also put like a director and writing, fucking everything in the whole movie.

SPEAKER_00: 1:04:31

That's good about this movie. I really think it's good that you can use this kind of idea and do something new with it and make it amazing. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03: 1:04:41

That's what I liked about poker face. Yeah. Um, it's like we, you know, like it's a playoff murder she wrote, Clumbo, and everything, but like there's so many new ways that he decided to do it. And I think that's what I really like about Ryan Johnson. Whatever he's gonna do, you can't just go, he's always gonna subvert. That's the fucking word I was looking for earlier. He's always gonna subvert like your expectations of something. Um which is very ironic because you know, talking about movies, there's always people who who uh like will complain if something's too predictable, but then there's also people that complain if it wasn't predictable enough. And some people love cer uh when you're subverted, and other people like fucking will murder you if you subvert something too much. Um but yeah, I just love that. Ryan Johnson is just like I make the movie, I can do whatever I want, you either like it or you don't.

SPEAKER_00: 1:05:32

Yeah, and I think you had a pretty balanced thing with this movie.

SPEAKER_03: 1:05:36

And like this is probably this is my favorite Ryan Johnson movie. I mean, it's just T to B. It's a ten out of ten. Uh for the bad, the only thing I had was the little morphine thing. Like if you had to pull like something bad from the movie, it's like, is that how morphine works? Uh yeah, I don't know. I mean, I just don't know drugs, and I just felt like if you gave way if you gave like three times too much of uh super deadly drug that if you use too much, like you would feel it way faster.

SPEAKER_00: 1:06:08

That's it. I think mine was just my uncomfortable uh feeling that I had with Mr. or Mr. Blanc's uh accent accent. Really? That's the word I was from. Yeah, I have heard people kind of complain it wasn't as bad as other people have done it in other movies. Yeah, I mean uh yeah, because Dano Craig's like in Snatch 2, I've never seen it's the worst southern accent of an 'cause it's also an investigator.

SPEAKER_01: 1:06:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:06:35

And she's supposed to be from like a southern bell from Georgia or something. Yeah. And it's so it's laid on so heavy, so thick, it's kind of embarrassing.

SPEAKER_03: 1:06:45

Yeah. And that's the thing. I think there is a like a little bit of subtleness to the foghorn leg horniness, right? It's not as like I'm doing like I say, I say. It's just it's more like it's it's believable enough, right? Yeah, I think so. And you kind of just want to, and you know, the detectives are always a little quirky and things. Like whenever you think of Columbo, it's like if that guy walked anywhere, I'd be like, What? Alright, this guy's got a weird voice. He's a detective. I can't trust him. Um, so for the ugly, I don't have anything. I thought everything pretty pretty much aged well.

SPEAKER_00: 1:07:21

Yeah, I mean, I thought uh uh I don't I guess I don't have anything ugly. Yeah. This is a great movie.

SPEAKER_03: 1:07:31

Um and for the fine, something that aged well, who done it? Apparently we don't have enough of them, and I want all of them.

SPEAKER_00: 1:07:36

But you can't overdo them though. You gotta wait ten more years to do another knives out.

SPEAKER_03: 1:07:41

Well, pretty much it's just uh knives out. That's that's the ones we get. Um, which Netflix. I guess my bat, the ugly is that Netflix took over um yeah, the knives out. They he gave they gave him like$500 million for fucking three more movies of Knives Out. I didn't know it was like a series of movies. My my yeah, that jogged my memory, and I completely forgot halfway through talking what I was actually about to complain about, and it all hit me again. Sorry. My biggest issue and the thing that does not age well is the fact that the sequels are so you got knives out, the sequel is Knives Out the Glass Onion, and then the next the third one is knives out wake up dead man or something like that. Why are you calling the second ones Knives Out and then Colonel Just so you know for sure that it's gonna have like the same actors? Well then just put like uh a blum uh Benoit Blanc story. I hate that it's like that would make more sense.

SPEAKER_00: 1:08:40

I don't know. It is like Jamie Lee Curtis and Don Johnson or any of these people in the other movies?

SPEAKER_03: 1:08:45

Uh no. Okay. It just feels weird because it's like, well, this story isn't doesn't have anything like the next one doesn't have anything to do with Knives Out. Knives Out was just the name of the first movie. You just call it What about what but it's still Blanc? Yeah, they should just like a Benoit Blanc story or an investigation, which isn't that much better, but I'm just like, I don't know. It every time I see it, it bugs me a little bit, so I have to put it in here somewhere, right? Yeah, yeah. But yeah, who donuts? Love them. Fuck yeah, man. Yeah. All right, man. Last category, double feature. So we recommend a movie that goes alongside this movie. Um, I was like, maybe I bet Jason might pick clue. So I picked Who Framed Roger Rabbit. If you want to really get another one with some goofy accents, and it's really fun, and I absolutely fucking love Who Framed Roger Rabbit. I've only seen it like twice in my life. I think I haven't seen it many more times. When I rewatched it a few years ago, I was like, oh shit, this may be fucking weird. Jessica Rabbit. Not gonna lie. I was never really attracted to Jessica Rabbit like the rest of the world is. I guess she's just special. She kind of creeped me out, actually. But Roger himself.

SPEAKER_00: 1:09:56

Uh Betty Boop is in there too.

SPEAKER_03: 1:09:58

Yeah. Alright, what do you got for double feature? I just feel like, you know, it's it's essentially a detective story. They're trying to figure out who killed him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, you framed him, right? It's great. Love it. Poor poor things getting dipped in acid. You know what? I will say Clue. Clue kicks ass. I want to re-watch. I keep saying I want to rewatch it, and I just haven't. I just every time I think about Clue, all I think about them is running room to room. It's so good.

SPEAKER_00: 1:10:23

So silly.

SPEAKER_03: 1:10:24

Uh well, it's such a fun movie. Tim Curry is so good. Yeah. Yeah. He's one of the funniest actors. I don't think I don't feel like he gives enough credit. That's his fucking goofy smile. It's all it's like evil. He's scary. Yes. He's a little scary. Yeah.

unknown: 1:10:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 1:10:39

That's our double features. Watch Who Frame, Roger Rabbit, and Clue. Damn, what a good day that would be. All three of these.

SPEAKER_00: 1:10:45

Um I wish I could do a Roger Rabbit voice. Yeah, I can't. Is that what he said? No. Kind of. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03: 1:10:57

All right. And that's our conclusion of Knives Out. Make sure to join us next week because we're going to have a little bit more fun. We're going to get silly again. It seems like every like two to three episodes, we got to get silly. In this case, we only did one serious episode. Uh, we are gonna do dodgeball. Yeah. Hell yeah. An underdog story. You can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball. Uh kind of one of those um everybody knows dodgeball, everybody loves dodgeball, but when he gets brought up in like classic 2000 comedies, it might be the tenth one mentioned, and it's like it should be in the top five of 2000 comedies.

SPEAKER_00: 1:11:35

I know. I watched it twice in theaters, I loved it.

SPEAKER_03: 1:11:38

It's so good.

SPEAKER_00: 1:11:39

It's just Ben Stiller characters. Yeah. We're gonna grab the bull by the horse.

SPEAKER_03: 1:11:49

Get ready for a quote-filled episode, baby, next week. So join us for Dodgeball, a true underdog story. One of my favorite things from that movie, and I do it all the time with Natalie. It's like, it's a bold move, Cotton. Let's see how it works out for them. The Ocho, Jason Bakman, baby. Let's go. So join us next week for that. Please send us some fan mail. I beggeth of you. Please send the fan mail. Link in the description. Click it and you didn't text us from your phone. At the bottom of the description is our email. I don't know what voice I'm doing. Oh, it's like we recommend Mailbag Edgemail.com. Evil Butler. Evil Butler. I know, and I should be doing kind of like a southern accent. But I have not been doing it. Your range is so gosh, I can do so many accents. They all almost kind of end up turning into a 1930s gangster.

SPEAKER_00: 1:12:46

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SPEAKER_03: 1:12:49

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SPEAKER_00: 1:13:13

What else?

SPEAKER_03: 1:13:14

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