Dirty Harry

Dirty Harry has one of the most quoted lines in movie history, but the real hook is uglier and more interesting: it’s a thriller that asks you to cheer while the hero breaks the rules. We recommend Don Siegel’s 1971 San Francisco crime film and then pull it apart from every angle, from Clint Eastwood’s strangely subtle acting choices to the way the 44 Magnum turns a cop into a walking legend.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:03

Hello and welcome to the We Recommend Podcast, a movie podcast where every week we recommend a movie for you to watch and then come back here and listen to us discuss. I'm Jesse. I'm Jason. Now you know why they call me Dirty Harry. Every dirty job that comes along. Cause this week we recommend Dirty Harry.

SPEAKER_01 0:30

Jason! What did you think? No, I really liked it. I feel like there's a lot of reasons why people call him Dirty Harry. Because they know I don't think they really nailed that down.

SPEAKER_02 0:42

What do you mean? You know it.

SPEAKER_01 0:44

They only talk about it like I know, but like there's always a different reason. Yeah, it's like why they call him Dirty Harry. It's the shit end of the stick because I do every dirty job. He's a peeping Tom.

SPEAKER_02 0:55

He punches people. I know. He really is. Um that's something I always kind of forget. I remember him like looking at through the window of Hot Mary. Love that like everybody on that street just calls him Hot Mary. But then I forgot about the part where he's like watching like the threesome couple, and he's like, I gotta get up. Or I need to take some time for myself. He's like, he's really a shitty character. But played by just man, Clint Eastwood is a good actor. It's wild. It's like even like all his small reactions, which is something I don't remember. I just remember like the broad stuff, but just like his little facial reactions, and always like, man, he really loved this character. I guess that's why he did like four more of these.

SPEAKER_01 1:43

Yeah, best sideburns in the business.

SPEAKER_02 1:46

Um are you a big uh fan of Clint Eastwood in terms of his acting and stuff?

SPEAKER_01 1:52

I d I am. I've always enjoyed it, even though I've never seen any of the Dirty Harry movies.

Why They Call Him Dirty

SPEAKER_02 1:56

Yeah, I've only seen this one. I've heard that the other ones, they just kind of get worse as they go. Yeah, um, but he ends up directing, I think, a couple of the next ones. That's cool. Uh but yeah, so um we're doing this because of Zodiac. Because it's like, oh, this is based off Zodiac. This is like a wet dream. Right. For people who who were like chasing the Zodiac, they're all like, if I could have fucking done it like dirty hairy, and they really made the Scorpio killer to be a little bitch.

SPEAKER_01 2:28

Yeah. I love it. Yeah, it's great.

SPEAKER_02 2:31

He's terrifying though. Yeah, for sure. Fucking bus shit. Yeah. Golly. First time I watched it, I was like, I didn't realize that this was gonna be this intense of a movie. Because, you know, you watch like a lot of the older like cop dramas and stuff of the 70s and earlier, usually even when they're gritty, it's just like the killer's never like, I'm on a school bus slapping kids. Like, whoa, we went to another level here. This guy was just a sick, sick fuck. Hell yeah. Which I kind of appreciate that that they did it, but they had to do that because of how bad of a cop Dirty Harry is.

SPEAKER_01 3:08

How do you think they figured out which kids deserve to be slapped? Um, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 3:13

Probably one was like it was probably like they're all right, which one of you, which one of these kids are we gonna like pretend to slap here? It's like one was in the bathroom. Oh, he's not here. Okay, we'll get that kid. Uh fun little fact, the kid at the end fishing. Yeah, that was uh the Scorpio, the actors, it was his stepson. Wow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:34

Oh I love when he grabs one, the kid sticks his tongue out, like the Scorpio is really bad at limping.

SPEAKER_02 3:43

Yeah, I think. He had like two wound in his leg and a wound in his calf. I think that leg at that point just was unusable.

SPEAKER_01 3:51

Well, like when he after it was, I think after he had been stabbed, uh maybe the next day he was wearing jeans and he was supposed to be limping, but he was just like skipping.

SPEAKER_02 4:00

Yeah, he he was definitely doing a skip more than a limp. Which I've never been stabbed in the ski thigh, so you know, I don't know, maybe it's all hurts. Maybe you're right. I don't know. Um But it is and I feel it's like which one out of the Zodiac in this did you prefer?

SPEAKER_01 4:19

I mean, I prefer Zodiac. Yeah. But this this movie was pretty good though.

Zodiac Parallels And Scorpio Fear

SPEAKER_02 4:22

Yeah, no, it's it's a great movie. Um it's shorter, which is lovely. But um I was just kind of curious as we're doing it. Yeah, it's like I do kind of like the more realistic, grounded way of looking at how they would go about finding this person, a person like this. But then like sometimes, you know, like when we go back in Zodiac, if it was just like Mark Ruffalo just shot uh Arthur Lee Allen in his tiny little shorts when they're at his uh trailer, it would have just all been over. He was like ah Zodiac dead. We would have never known if he's actual Zodiac, which is kind of the problem. But and I do like how this movie kind of made the it did a good job making it as hard as possible on Dirty Harry. Like the fact that he goes and gets himself beat up by that one guy is so fun and smart, right?

SPEAKER_01 5:18

Yeah, it's wild. Um I I also like this movie because it made me realize that boomers they didn't change because their side society changed, they were always the same. Yeah. Like whenever whenever his uh captain or whatever is like, hey, when are you gonna get a haircut? Yeah, like, are you serious right now? He looks amazing.

SPEAKER_02 5:40

It's like, what are you talking about? Dirty hair. It's Clint Eastwood, his hair is not even that big. And I was like, well, you need some avocado toast. Yeah, right. Pull your bootstraps up or whatever. It's like it's been saying the same ass dome lines forever. It's wild. Um, did you find the the scorpion Scorpio to be uh scary at all?

SPEAKER_01 6:03

Not really. Did you find him too weasely? It was pretty weasley, and he wasn't he wasn't he was just opportunist. Yeah. I mean, I guess the zodiac was too, but at least he got his It's like he well got his hands dirty, the zodiac.

SPEAKER_02 6:20

This guy was sniping people from uh rooftops, which is a fucking coward.

SPEAKER_01 6:24

Based on the uh that one sniper I can't remember, I think which one the Texas sniper or the one that was in the bell tower at the college? I think so.

SPEAKER_02 6:33

Because I think that happened in the 60s or something, or it was like something related to the Mansons. I can't remember. I got it in my notes somewhere. Um But yeah, it is kind of terrifying, just especially at the start, because you have the girl swimming on the roof. Yeah, and then he snipes her. He's like, Man, you're fucking on a roof swimming by yourself. You think I'm probably the safest I'll be swimming, right? And then nope. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 6:58

I it's what was she wearing, though? That's true. She had to come in.

Script Drafts And Production Facts

SPEAKER_02 7:03

She was asking to be sniped in the back on the roof. Horrible. So we'll get into some little facts. So after Clint Eastwood and Don Siegel came on board the project, they hired Dean Reisner to work on the script. In his first rewrite, the bank robbery scenes end with Harry not pointing the gun at the robber but placing it against his own temple, pulls the trigger, laughs, and then walks away. Eastwood and Siegel both felt this was too extreme, even for Harry.

SPEAKER_01 7:29

What? It's like this is much better.

SPEAKER_02 7:34

It's more intimidating.

SPEAKER_01 7:35

It's a great practical joke, Harry.

SPEAKER_02 7:37

It's like, well, the guy could still pull it up.

SPEAKER_01 7:39

I don't know. I know. I just thought it was so funny how he just like click and he laughed, like, huh?

SPEAKER_02 7:45

Well, gotcha, bitch. And it that's always that's like the big scene from the movie. But I weirdly kind of remember the the bus scene the most, and then like him and his partner running through the the streets at night chasing like that one guy that's not the killer. Yeah, it's like I don't know why I always remember that scene the most, but yeah, it is a classic iconic scene of well, do ya? Do you punk?

unknown 8:13

It's great.

SPEAKER_02 8:14

So I feel lucky. Yeah, that guy can squint his eyes and talk through his teeth better than anybody else. So when uh Clint Eastwood approached Don Siegel to offer him the directing job, Eastwood gave Siegel four drafts of the script, one of which was written by Terrence Malik, who uh big director. He did uh uh Tree of Life, uh Days of Heaven, I believe. He's very uh thin red line. Oh yeah. So that war movie. Um, you know, he's very like poetic director and I've never seen any of them, I've never even heard of the other ones. Oh. Um but he's he's like his movies are very quiet and like very long and uh very thoughtful. And in Malik's scripts, he had altered Scorpio from being a mindless psychopath, killing only because he likes it, to being a vigilant vigilante who killed wealthy criminals who had escaped justice. Siegel didn't like Malik's script, but Eastwood did, but Malik's ideas formed the basis for the sequel, Magnum Force.

SPEAKER_01 9:11

Oh I was I was about to say, like, they should just make that movie too. Yeah, because that makes it sound amazing.

SPEAKER_02 9:19

Which but I think Parliament is just like, no, we gotta catch cash grab on the zodiac stuff. Yeah. Which is terrible, but that's how people are. So serial killer Scorpio was loosely based on the Zodiac Killer, who used to taunt police and media to notes throughout the crime, in which when he threatened threatened to hijack school bus for all the trillion children. The role of Harry Callahan was loosely based on the real life detective David Toshi, who was the chief investigator on the Zodiac case. And if you're coming into this and you did not listen to Zodiac, go back and listen to our Zodiac episode. Um Scorpio uh wears a belt with peace symbol buckle throughout this movie. According to producer and director Don Siegel, it reminds us that no matter how vicious a person is, when he looks in the mirror, he is still blind to what he truly is. Peaceful. Not peaceful. Which um I guess so the Andrew Robinson, the guy who plays Scorpio, created a backstory for Scorpio, which involved him being drafted into the Vietnam War and seeing unspeakable horrors, horrors when he returned home to the United States. He found himself a figure of hate and his war experience combined with the people's treatment of uh of soldiers caused him to go insane.

SPEAKER_01 10:30

That's crazy. Yeah. That's pretty cool. He had a sweet gun case.

SPEAKER_02 10:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:35

I want one of those. This is great. Every time an assassin pulls out a gun case, I'm like, where can I get one?

SPEAKER_02 10:41

Yeah, it's like, where can I get a gun case? I won't put guns in it.

SPEAKER_01 10:44

I want to cut out the foam perfectly and make them all fit.

SPEAKER_02 10:47

And like take it to work and they're like, what do you have? And open it's like a sandwich and some other stuff. Just put it in the fridge.

SPEAKER_01 10:54

Putting the sandwich together like he is in the front.

SPEAKER_02 10:58

Bring out something like mayo and some mustard. Um, so in the bank robbery scene, uh, you can see like at the movie theater in Marquee, it says it lists play Misty for me, which is Clint Eastwood starred in and directed that movie, which was the first theatrical movie directed by him. Cool. I've never seen it, but apparently it's really good. Um and Eastwood directed the scene with a suicide jumper. Um it was great. And I guess the reason he had to do it is because they're on that like lift, and like they couldn't it was such a small confined space to direct that um and the director was ill, so he's like, we'll just have Clint Eastwood direct it. Um and I guess he was always kind of scheduled to direct that just because it would work better in terms of amount of space. So that's why it's like such a small space they had to have just like, well, he's directed before, so I'll direct it. And it is a great little scene. He's like, Yeah, let me down. It's like now every time I somehow try to do this, they always try to take us down with them. And oh, and that kind of leads to like the part whenever I'm talking about his facial features, uh Clint Eastwood, you know, because they bring him down and he's you got the little lift and like little crank that to make it to where you can like kind of wibble wobble and then like also break it. And whenever it gets all down, he puts like the little hold on it, and like the face he makes, he's like, you could really tell he's like it's like, man, he's such a good director. Or actor.

SPEAKER_01 12:31

Um well, it looked like it didn't work and he got frustrated with it.

SPEAKER_02 12:35

Yeah. And I was like, is that real, or was he being or was he just that good of an actor?

SPEAKER_01 12:40

It's like the zipper at the the county fair. There, you know that ride? Uh uh. Oh man, it's awesome. But it kind of wobbles back and forth like that, and you can't really control it, and you're just kind of stuck for the ride.

SPEAKER_02 12:50

Oh yeah. I do know what you're talking about. Yeah. It's been so long since I've been to a fair. Oh, yeah. Now when I go, I'm like, I'm never getting on those rides. Yeah. They're terrifying. I can't believe I did it.

SPEAKER_01 13:03

Now looking back as an adult. Like, they don't even check to see if they're still working. Like, I got into that train thing that goes in circles up and down, you know, the loop. Oh, the uh ring of fire? I guess. That's what they called it in my county family. Well, like I got into it and there was no there was a giant hole above you, so you could see out, I guess, for some goddamn reason. And I my seatbelt didn't buckle. And I was like trying to see, I was trying to fix it, and then they just started the fucking ride. So and then they stopped it when I was upside down, and so I was like holding the roof, trying not to fall out through this fucking hole. So scared.

SPEAKER_02 13:39

Oh, it's like, why did we ever do it? Like, I always think because one of my favorite rides was the so it's like on a thing that spins you real fast, and there's a little wheel that you can kind of spin your own thing. It's like the most insane and thrilling ride. It's just like you're just going in circles and then you make yourself go in circles even more. And it was just uh so fun. But like ours was kind of wiggly, like the whole our whole thing was wiggling versus the other ones weren't kind of wobbly. And I was like, this doesn't seem safe, but had the best time on it. Fucking bolts and screws flying out everywhere, yeah. Um, so I guess Arnold uh Schwarzenegger cited this cited the character Harry Callahan as being one of the biggest influences on his career. So Schwarzenegger said watching this movie inspired him to seek out action roles with wisecracking heroes who were a law into themselves. Stick around. And I was just like, he didn't have that much wisecracking. You know, Arnold. He kind of got like kind of missed a point on his character.

SPEAKER_01 14:42

Yeah, Arnold's like, I want to do Dirty Harry, but silly.

SPEAKER_02 14:45

Yeah, but silly.

SPEAKER_01 14:47

He's sleeping.

SPEAKER_02 14:50

So this movie makes references to then recent criminal court trials, Escobito versus Illinois and Miranda versus Arizona. Escobedo versus Illinois was a 1964 case which ruled that any statements made by a suspect without the presence of legal counsel were inadmissible as evidence. Miranda versus Arizona was a 1966 case, which ruled that a suspect had to be informed of his or her rights interrogation. If he or she was not informed of his or her rights, the subsequent interrogation was deemed null and void. And like Callahan was like, What? I've never heard of this shit. I didn't know any of this. It's like, what are you talking about? You're the guy, you're like a detective at this point. You should have known this a long time ago.

SPEAKER_01 15:39

And I love how the Scorpio is like, but I won my lawyer.

SPEAKER_02 15:45

So great. He just really makes you fucking hate him.

SPEAKER_01 15:50

Please kill him now. Please kill him now. Um you're gonna save yourself a foot chase later.

SPEAKER_02 15:55

Last couple of things. So Andrew Robinson in real life is a pacifist who despises guns. In the early days of uh principal photography, Robinson would flinch violently every time he fired his gun. They even had to like shut down production just to send him out to learn how to convincingly fire a gun. But if you watch the movie now, he still like blinks whenever he shoots. And I'm like, well, I feel like everybody kind of does that. You do where you hold it out and you kind of close your eyes and like Robinson was also squeamish about filming the scenes where he verbally and physically abuses several school children, and the scene where he racially insults the man, he pleased to beat him up. Like, turns out this bad guy in the movie, good guy in real life, as far as we know.

SPEAKER_01 16:40

And in the 70s, I think we have a different interpretation of the goodies now.

SPEAKER_02 16:45

Eastwood performed all his own stunts, including the stunt where he jumps onto the roof of the hijacked school bus from the bridge. That's why you it's obviously his face the whole time. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:53

Yeah.

Fan Mail And What It Means

SPEAKER_02 16:53

Love it when actors do that. So, before we get into the plot, um, I ask you to think about what the point of this movie is. What is this movie saying? What is it trying to say? And if you have anything to say, you can leave us a message. And if you're on YouTube, you can comment, or you can go into the description where we have a link that you can just text us from your phone, or at the very bottom, you can go to we recommend mailbag at gmail.com and leave us some fan mail. Which we got some. What? Yeah, well, it's uh it's a YouTube comment. Um it's like uh the the Mac magnificent Mark Christian or whatever. He's on uh YouTube. Um and he commented, I just found you guys really enjoying this far. Keep them coming. And then on our Zodiac um episode, he read he read Patton Oswald evening boys.

SPEAKER_01 17:47

Yeah, that's what it was called. That's the the husband who's well, his wife went crazy looking for the killer and she died. Oh, hey, Mark, thanks, bro. Yeah, appreciate it.

SPEAKER_02 17:58

My boy Mark with the C, baby. Um, thanks. I was because he put that comment and I was hoping that when I said it, you would know what he's talking about. I was like, I have no idea. I was like, did he mean like uh the comedian?

SPEAKER_01 18:11

Yeah, the comedian, yeah. His wife was she was like obsessed with trying to find um a serial killer and she was she ended up killing her. She ended up like having heart failure or something. Damn. Cool. Thanks, Mark. That's awesome.

Dunkin Coffee Chaos

SPEAKER_02 18:26

Yeah. An evening back to you concerned. Don't know why I said that so weirdly. Yeah, thanks. See, isn't this fun when you c talk to us back? It's so cool. Thanks, Mark. Man, like so. I didn't like right before this, I had a lot of coffee. I had like a full mug. People were like, oh Grace talking about drinking coffee again. It's all the art Jesse ever does. It's like we get it, you're just a spaz on coffee. I chugged that thing and I did not realize I was doing it. And it is hitting me hard. It's like I'm having trouble concentrating.

SPEAKER_01 19:06

I got so angry. We went to Dunkin' Donuts for um to get coffee and breakfast for my daughter's birthday.

SPEAKER_02 19:12

Yeah. Happy birthday, daughters.

SPEAKER_01 19:14

All the food looked like it'd been sat on, but the coffee was like mostly cream. Like we got it. My wife got a latte and it was so sweet and horrible that we just use it as creamer.

SPEAKER_02 19:25

You can't honestly, if you go to Dunkin', just don't get anything in your coffee. It's because their coffee is not very bitter, um, anyways. So, and if you let them pour milk and sugar in your coffee, you're insane. Yeah, I got an iced coffee.

SPEAKER_01 19:41

I just wanted an iced coffee, and it was just white.

SPEAKER_00 19:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:45

What did you do? You can't, you can't go there. And they didn't even spit in it like I asked.

unknown 19:49

Yeah.

Plot Setup And Funky Score

SPEAKER_02 19:50

It's like uh before you bring it out, can you spit on it and slap it in the face or call it daddy's little slap boy? But yeah. The nice thing about Dunkin' Donuts, though, is uh they're ice americana, not too bad. And it's only like you can get like four things there for$13, or you can go to Starbucks and get two things for like$20. Yeah, that's true. But they know how to make coffee better. That's Starbucks. So, coffee talk is over. We're gonna hop into the plot of Dirty Harry, 1971. So, with bells tolling, the film opens with a zoom in on the Marble Wall Memorial in true tribute to the police officers of San Francisco who gave their lives in the line of duty. Um, it's like goes all the way back to like 1878. It's like crazy. I'm like, kind of want to go see that plot. That's pretty cool. Yeah. And then up to the current year of this, which was 1970, uh, we see a policeman's badge uh dissolves into a muzzle of the end of a barrel, baby. A high-powered rifle of a criminal sniper looking, uh linking the two combatants. The babyface hippie looking killer on a rooftop has his weapon with a telescopic lens aimed at a young woman in yellow one-piece swimsuit at a nearby rooftop hotel swimming pool. As she swims lap, he pulls the trigger and blood spurts from the bullet wound uh in her left shoulder, which uh is kind of weird because it seems like he should have been on the other side of the building to shoot her there, but that's okay. And the water turns red and all cloudy. Yeah. The music in this scene. The music in this movie is so funky and jagged.

SPEAKER_01 21:33

All the all the percussion.

SPEAKER_02 21:34

Just like, hell yeah, woman getting shot. Let's go, baby. It's just like so good. Yeah, it's wild. And uh apparently the guy who does the music for this ended up doing got famous for doing the music for Mission Impossible. Nice. So he came up with the d d d d and it's like, whoa, cool. Now I want to do Mission Impossible. Could have been a little more funky though. Yeah, I know. Um So then we meet a sunglasses wearing inspector Harry Callahan of San Francisco Police Force. Uh he investigates. Um at first they go to the woman who got shot and then goes to the rooftop. And he sees that there's a spent shell casing of the rifle and carefully places it in an envelope. And then they also find a ransom note pinned to a TV antenna. Um and a man, a few words throughout the entire film, he reacts with a simple expletive. His first line of dialogue. Jesus. Even the way he said it, I was like, he barely sounds like he's saying Jesus. He's like, Jesus. Um Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:38

And was that like a water treatment plant that he was on top of? I don't know. It just seemed like a normal It's like the tallest water treatment plant I've ever seen. Yeah, I think it was just supposed to be a regular building. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 22:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:50

Yeah. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 22:52

Is that what I said?

SPEAKER_01 22:53

Those water was all yucky and then turn on the fan.

SPEAKER_02 22:55

Yeah. That's true. I don't know what it was.

SPEAKER_01 22:57

What are you doing, San Francisco?

SPEAKER_02 22:59

Well, are you San Francisco? Why has he got so much smog everywhere? DuPont.

SPEAKER_01 23:05

All those idling cars outside of banks.

SPEAKER_02 23:08

Yeah. We just like. We'll get there. We'll get there. So the handwritten note is projected on a screen and read by Mayor. Um, the drained sniper, a madman calling himself Scorpio, demands cash, or he will zoom killing of random targets among the cities. Innocent citizens to the city of San Francisco. I will enjoy killing one person every day until you pay me$100,000. If you agree, say so tomorrow morning in personal column San Francisco Chronicle, and I will set up a meeting. If you do not hear from if I do not hear from you, it will be my next pleasure to kill a Catholic priest or uh Scorpio.

SPEAKER_01 23:47

I love I love how the mayor is like, how are we supposed to get$100,000? Yeah, right?

SPEAKER_02 23:53

It's like uh I don't know, probably your bank account, dude. It's like I feel like the entire city would be like, uh any bank would probably be like, okay, yeah. I know. It's like, aren't you like one of the wealthiest cities? Yeah, I think so.

SPEAKER_01 24:11

I don't know if at this time, but I don't know, they seem pretty nice.

SPEAKER_02 24:15

They definitely don't take care of the people around them in their own city.

SPEAKER_01 24:17

That's what I think is like we don't pay criminals not to do crime. Yeah. Well let's get the money.

SPEAKER_02 24:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:23

Tomorrow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:27

Um also, so yeah. Um this is where I put in my notes. So the character is obviously based on the Zodiac killer. Um, but also the composite character also has elements of Charles Manson and 60s Texas sniper Charles Whitman. That's what it was. Yeah. Nice. Yep. So the mayor concludes to the chief police: the city of San Francisco does not pay criminals not to make not to commit crimes. Instead, we pay a police department. Like, oh uh, what's his name? Uh uh Callahan like I know.

SPEAKER_01 25:00

And they have this all this like respect for I guess the mayor is the boss kind of of the police department, right? Like he's the one that but it was so funny. Like, yeah, show a little respect. It's the mayor.

SPEAKER_02 25:12

Yeah, because uh Callahan walks in, he's like, he's very like crude and complains about waiting almost an hour. Oh well, for the past three because they're talking about like, all right, have Callahan come in. It's like, all right, what do you know about the case? He's like, nothing. He's like, what?

SPEAKER_01 25:27

What have you been doing?

SPEAKER_02 25:28

Well, for the past three quarters of an hour, I've been sitting on my ass in your outer office waiting on you. And uh, I love it because um, yeah, and so according to Callahan Superior Chief, uh Lieutenant Al Bressler, additional rooftop and helicopter surveillance teams or portrayals have already been arranged around the city's Catholic churches and schools, and in black areas, computers are also being used to run checks on persons who have Scorpio birthdays. Um, the mayor decides to agree to pay the criminal enhancing, slow-burning, angry gaze of Callahan, who disputes the decision, you're gonna play this creeps game. Um, and I love like because as they went through that information, every time that Callahan was trying to say it, the lieutenant was like, I better interrupt him before he says something shitty. But then at the end, um, with like the Scorpio birthdays, he's like, Yeah, we do it because of the birthdays. And then the mayor's like, okay, this guy's the one that actually knows what's going on anymore.

SPEAKER_01 26:24

Um yeah, after he leaves, he's like, Yeah, that actually makes sense. When he asked him about the uh the rapist. Yeah.

Bank Robbery And Iconic Magnum

SPEAKER_02 26:33

Yeah, because he's like, uh, yeah, let's not have it as uh violent as the last time. And he's like, he's like, Well, uh, I shot a person who was gonna rape a girl. It's like, well, how do you know he was even gonna rape it? It's like, well, uh, not every day that you have a man chasing after a woman with a knife and a heart on. He's like, yeah. All right, cool. Yeah, that makes sense. So at a local burger den, uh, Callahan goes to eat. Um, he gets his usual.

SPEAKER_01 27:05

Who gets a hot dog at a burger restaurant?

SPEAKER_02 27:08

Gets his well, have you seen those hot dogs? Those hot dogs are fucking giant, dude. They were, they don't even make buns that big. But I love that it's like he's like, I want my usual. It's like the lunch version or the dinner version. He's like, doesn't matter. What's the difference? Just like, do you have a hot dog at lunch and dinner? That's insane, dude. Because don't they say like every hot dog like takes five minutes off your life? This guy's gonna die next year.

SPEAKER_01 27:33

He's he lives fast and hard. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:37

And dirty. So he coolly asks about the uh the server Jaffy? I'm like, what a name is that.

SPEAKER_01 27:48

That's a fun name.

SPEAKER_02 27:49

Um, about the tan Ford parked across the street in front of a bank. He specs a bank robbery, a 211 in progress, and has him phone the police department for backup, and he muses himself if they'll just wait till the cavalry arrives, and then immediately hears like the siren's going off.

SPEAKER_00 28:03

He's like, ah shit.

SPEAKER_02 28:06

I guess he does have a lot of like quips in the movie. It's just because the way that he says them, it doesn't sound like quips. It sounds like just like an annoyed police officer.

SPEAKER_01 28:16

It's so kind of like dry, and I love it.

SPEAKER_02 28:19

Yeah. Um but I do it's it's kind of ridiculous because a part of a lot of things in this movie, I'm all like, this isn't it, this isn't how a police person should be. Because I'm just like, you just assume that there's a a car parked in front of a bank that they're just immediately robbing it and not going in there and just like it's like you just parked, saw the car, walked in, and says, Is that car still there? Could just be a car there, right? You're calling in like a whole cavalry just for like a hunch, but then it's like annoyingly correct, but then it's also like one of the best scenes of the movie, so it's like eh, who cares? So Callahan calmly strides outside of with his monstrous long barrel heavyweight Smith and Weston 44 Magnum baby, ready for action. And then uh three men uh come out, he single-handedly stops the heist by shooting and wounding one of the fleeing robbers who backs out of the bank door, one shot, and another one, second shot, and at the second suspect who runs from the bank and jumps into a getaway car with the driver. Another shot, the third, that misses its target is heard when the camera looks from behind the driver. Another blast smashes the windshield of the car straight, uh driving straight at Harry, fourth and fifth shots, causing it to crash into the flower stand while the hydrant turns on his side, still chewing his lunch amidst water spewing from the plug. He kills with a six bullet the passenger in the upturned car who attempts to flee, and then Harry looks down to see that his pant leg is covered in blood, seeping through from a leg wound. Yeah, it's funny because I was like, ooh, I know it, I gotta count all the shots here. Yeah, I didn't even think about it. Yeah, so then he finally walks to the entrance of the bank and threatens the wounded bank robber who is reaching for his shotgun on the sidewalk with an oversized view of his non-regulation weapon, he states his most memorable, courageous line. Um when he baits the criminal to gamble on the luck with his lethal version of Russian roulette. Sorry, I don't know why I put that. So I know what you're thinking. Did he did he I wait, hold on, I gotta grit my teeth more and talk through it. I know what you're thinking. Did he fire six shots or only five? Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I kinda lost track of myself. But being as this is a 44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, would you What if that's sorry, sorry, sorry, and would blow your head clean off? You've gotta ask yourself one question. Do you feel lucky? Well, do you punk?

SPEAKER_01 30:49

I always have to snarl.

SPEAKER_02 30:50

It's so fun. I love like in podcasts when people try to like do quotes and they kind of mess up and be like, man, it'd be so funny if the movie would like keep like messed up lines.

SPEAKER_01 31:00

Sorry. Excuse me. And the guy's like, oh, it's okay.

SPEAKER_02 31:03

Do you feel lucky?

SPEAKER_01 31:05

You were saying? Yes.

SPEAKER_02 31:08

So the thief surrenders. He says, Hey, I gotta know. Harry Gun clicks empty when he pulls the trigger aimed at the bank robber. The criminal is spared after making his choice, although Callahan is an ineffective enforcer of law and order.

SPEAKER_01 31:21

I like that guy on the ground that uh he was pretty much done for, right? He got shot in the shoulder.

SPEAKER_02 31:28

He got shot. He just didn't want to get shot himself with a shotgun. So I will say, you know, maybe just let him go and uh follow him in your car. You caused a lot of damage and you could have killed somebody dirty hairy.

SPEAKER_01 31:44

I loved how that car got flipped over like it was made of plastic. So sick.

SPEAKER_02 31:48

Man, I love it's just you know, I always hear like people are like, man, we just don't make movies like we used to. Man, we really don't. We really don't. Like they just even though like the you know, there can be some like jankiness in older movies, it still just feels and looks real. Yeah, it looks great.

SPEAKER_01 32:07

I love seeing all the like the outfits people were wearing, like the car, all of the shiny.

SPEAKER_02 32:11

Everything is colorful.

SPEAKER_01 32:12

Yeah. Because it's like, oh, this is just how real life looks.

SPEAKER_02 32:17

And technicolor. Technicolor, yeah. That was uh that was like the the Technicolor is like the company that like started color into films and stuff like that. PanaVision, it's just like a type of camera.

SPEAKER_01 32:28

Oh, that makes sense.

Why Modern Movies Look Gray

SPEAKER_02 32:29

Um, I hope I got all that right. But I will because I saw that there was a trailer for a new Jake Dylan Hall movie, and I was like, 'cause I'm like hella into Jake Dylan Hall movies right now. And it was a guy Richie film. And I was like, oh, snap, this should be fun. It looked like shit. Oh it looked like gray concrete. Like that's what it looked like. And I'm like, why did we decide that this is it? And let me tell you why. Because Marvel back in the day, they uh do doing like um like test screenings and stuff like that. General audiences in these test screenings thought that uh they preferred like the you know how in Marvel movies all the skies are just white and gray, like there's no clouds fucking anywhere. Whenever you want to notice that, and it's just like looks like gray concrete. And because that scores better with audiences and general audiences prefer that because it's you know non-uh upsetting, I guess most audiences. Interesting. It then every like big budget movie goes that way. It's like whenever you watch like gray man on Netflix, it looks gross.

SPEAKER_01 33:32

I thought you were gonna say this because the Marvel's Marvel movies used up all the good film. You use all the good you used all the good color up.

SPEAKER_02 33:41

But it's just like because I I like I watched the trailer and I was like, it made me so upset. And then it's like Jake Gyllenhaal's character, just like I'm just like, oh, this is a boring talking guy. All right, cool. I'm like, man, guy Richie, this isn't you. Are you okay, guys? It's just like a bad is a bad trailer, and it might be a decent movie, but it's like Henry Cavill in it and stuff. And I was like, Oh, I was kind of I was kind of excited for it, and I was like, no, it just looks like shit. I love Henry Cavill as The Witcher. Yeah. I'm just like and like his uh guy Richie's other films like that he's done like recently, like they don't really they have like color to them and stuff, and I'm like, uh, it's a bigger budget. So this that's why they're like, all right, we gotta make sure as many people would want to go see it as possible, so let's make it as neutral as possible for audiences.

SPEAKER_01 34:31

And I'm like, Maybe Henry Cavill's just too handsome for color. That is true.

Chico Joins And Street Patrol

SPEAKER_02 34:35

It's like, well, we can't have all these guys and girls getting wet in theater. So at a hospital, as Harry is administered treatment by Steve, he divulges that he has been wounded before in his line of work and that his life has suffered a personal tragedy. The death of his wife, Steve apologizes for ramferencing Harry's wife after he re realizes he spoke wrongly, won't wrongly. And later we'll learn that um uh he was his wife was hit by a drunk driver. Um sucks, yeah. So throughout the city, numerous rooftops have some officers positioned on the lookout for the blackmailing killer Scorpio. In uh the homicide department, Harry is assigned a replacement uh against his will by the lieutenant, a rookie college edict educated um cop named Chico Gonzalez. He is less he is a my I'm I messed up like my lettering a lot, and they're like a lot smaller this go-around, so I'm like struggling to see it. So he is less dismayed by the new partners at the ethnicity than his lack of experience and his m uh major detective work liabilities. You gotta be kidding me. I know I don't got any time to break in any newcomers. Why don't you do this boy a favor? If I need a partner, I'll give someone who knows what the hell he's doing.

SPEAKER_01 35:57

Right. And he's like, all my partners died. Like, maybe just let me do this.

SPEAKER_02 36:02

Yeah, and then the other guy is just like, hmm, I don't trust this guy. And then it's like, well, uh, he's not lying. He will get shot later. I'm sorry. So uh Gonzalez wants to know the uh origin of Callahan's well-known nickname. One of his associates, the greed Giorgio, uh emphasizes dirty hairy fat so yeah gosh. Um and he he emphasizes dirty hairies across the board, non-racist, and unbigoted prejudiced and hatred just for everyone.

SPEAKER_01 36:32

Everyone, I know I love it.

SPEAKER_02 36:34

It's like yeah, that's good. That's I feel like maybe that's a good thing and a bad thing to be a cop. Well, it's at least he hates everybody, not just specifically one group. So in a scene transition, a scale model of the city of in the office dissolves into twin spires of a Catholic church, St. Peter and St. Paul Church at Washington Square. On a nearby rooftop of the Dante building, Scorpio is set to strike his next victim. He reads a message to him from the mayor in the personal call-ups, like, uh, we agree to terms of money, but uh uh you psycho killer, could you just like be patient? It's like, really, dude? How about this? Be like, hey, we got the money. Um, so just call us and set up to meet, and then just be like, all right, yeah. Ooh, actually, this day doesn't work for us. How about like a couple hours later? Do you use Google Calendar? Yeah. Uh so he rips it up, um, tossing all the pieces. He dons black gloves and uses a telescope to target an exetger uh uh to target a black man. And after assembling his rifle and getting poised to shoot, he is spotted by scouring patrol helicopters and thwarted, but he escapes. Boy can make some faces. This actor had to get the role from face alone, right?

SPEAKER_01 37:58

Yeah, but he's always like I know when he was watching that guy, like he picked his target and then he kind of disappeared behind a tree and he was so he was so upset.

SPEAKER_02 38:07

Yeah, he's like, Oh, and then he saw him.

SPEAKER_00 38:08

He's like, I get the cue.

SPEAKER_02 38:14

It's great. And like, oh, the guy that plays this, he he does such a good job. At first, I always remember kind of being like, I he overdoes it, but this time watching it, and I feel like it's because I like every movie the most when I watch it at 7 a.m. in the morning, which is very strange. Um but I was just like, man, this guy is fucking killing this movie. He's crushing. Because I think sometimes I'm like, oh, he's overacting. But now, like, especially as you go through the movie, you're just like, no, he's just portraying a crazy person. He's doing a good job. And plus, I can't say he's overacting whenever I love like the reveals in all the screen movies when they're when they go way over the top. Never done as good as our boys Skeetoric and Matt Matthew Lillard, though. Scream talk. So during a night patrol, Callahan and Gonzalez cruise the streets populated by peep shows and strip joints. Their police radio describes a suspect an adult male Caucasian. Caucasian.

SPEAKER_01 39:13

I repeat, an adult male Caucasian.

SPEAKER_02 39:18

Last scene, the suspect was wearing a pair of uh chinos, a pale blue shirt, brown coat, a sweater, dark gloves. He was carrying a tan suitcase, which probably contains the 30 aught six rifle. The man is wanted on suspicion of homicide. Callan commits that on the weirdos that are seen on the streets, these loonies they ought to throw a net all over them.

SPEAKER_01 39:38

I love how he's like he's wearing tan chino. He's like just described every man in the 70s.

SPEAKER_02 39:43

Yeah. And now every hipster in modern day. Yes, he has a very big mustache and wearing a flat cap. He's also listening to a walkman, which doesn't even exist yet. So uh Gonzalez spots a man with a tan suitcase and they go to uh pursue the man. Um, so Callahan follows the man down a dark alley where he's seeing him entering an apartment. So he stands on a trash can, spies on these couple who like she he gives her a gift like from a suitcase, and he's like, ah, damn it, it's not the killer. And then he falls off, and then like the guy immediately like just takes the girl's shirt off and he's like, Wait, what's happening here? And then he falls off the he gets pushed off the trash can, and just like a bunch of like older men start beating the shit up.

SPEAKER_01 40:36

We were watching her. He's like, You can't do that.

SPEAKER_02 40:38

It's like you're it's like you're a peeping Tom.

SPEAKER_01 40:41

And then these are all the peeping toms. Yeah, grouped up.

SPEAKER_02 40:44

We were gonna look at Hot Mary together. You smashed our one good trash can.

SPEAKER_01 40:49

Yeah, I mean, I I get it. Hot Mary just came to the window, topless and everything.

SPEAKER_02 40:52

I know she didn't care. Well, it's 70 cents. I mean peace and free love, right?

SPEAKER_01 40:56

Yeah, good neighbors, yeah.

Suicide Jumper And Dirty Jobs

SPEAKER_02 40:57

And um, so then he's like, I'm a cop, and they're like, Yeah, whatever, and they start beating the shit out of him. And Gonzalez comes off, and then he's like, I just had another thought about why they call you Dirty Harry. Gonzalez, you son of a bitch, you got him. So in the meantime, sirens Blair, somewhere in the city, back in their patrol car, they receive a radio report on of an 804 in progress near the civic center. They found a crowd uh rescue squad, and this is the suicide temp. Harry volunteers to talk him down and slowly lifted up. Uh without being the without begging the suicidal man to reconsider, Harry shows brutal indifference when he asks his disturbed man for his name and address to later identify his match body on the pavement.

SPEAKER_00 41:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:41

And then like he further angers the guy by Harry's comical reaction to the threat to puke. The man jumps on the apparatus to take Harry down with him. It's so funny. It's such a good scene.

SPEAKER_01 41:55

If you piss him off enough, he'll just do something crazy.

SPEAKER_02 41:57

Yeah.

unknown 41:58

I love it.

SPEAKER_02 41:59

Uh the cop takes advantage of the distracted jumper, knocks him out, and brings him down safely. Back on the street, he tells his pal how he truly earned his nickname every dirty job that comes along.

SPEAKER_01 42:10

I don't know. After watching the show Dirty Jobs, I don't really kind of man, that show is so good. They're like, hey, Harry, can you come unclog this toilet? That's dirty job. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:21

Micro. So likable on that show. Everybody loves Micro. Yeah, get your damn hands. He's so handsome. Yeah, and it was just like nice to be like, finally, they're like, hey, you want to see some shitty jobs? Stop complaining about your crappy jobs and look at these people hanging out in the sewer.

SPEAKER_01 42:36

Yeah, these people get paid to scuba dive into shit and unclog drain.

SPEAKER_02 42:40

And they force this one guy to eat it.

SPEAKER_01 42:44

It was his first day.

Scorpio Escalates And Stakeout Trap

SPEAKER_02 42:45

It was his first day. Yeah. The green horns, we make them eat. It's just classic. It's like, yeah, the new newbies, we make them swim without any scuba games. Oh no. So the next day while driving through uh a district, the two cops are directed to an empty lot where the body of a young boy has been discovered, shot in the face from a rooftop. The mother of the deceased deceased Mr. R Miss Russell tells Charlie that her son was only ten years old. Damn. Um brutal, and then like Gonzalez like sees the shot and he's like starts to throw up essentially and is just like, damn. Yeah. Um at first third Harry's like, uh, go take care of the mother. Go take care of the mother. And I then you see Gonzalez, he's just like over there about to throw up. He's like, he didn't take care of the mother at all. And then you just allow the mother to walk up to the boy. I'm like, if the kid was shot in the face, maybe don't let her come and see the child, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:44

I feel like she would have been wailing like maybe we just got there after all that.

SPEAKER_02 43:49

Yeah. Within the Hall of Justice in the police chief police chief's office, a map diagram of the city is marked with blue flags that identify where all the units will be on nocturnal due. All areas of the city except for the North Beach area, where one building has an unlocked rooftop. We're saving him that for him, they say. For surveillance, Callahan will be stacked out that uh staked out there on a building that overlooks the roof where the sniper was earlier spotted near the church. The detectives predict that Scorpio will pick the same rooftop in order to select a Catholic padre at the um at his next target. He may just figure out he may just figure he owes himself a padre, Callahan says. Um yeah, and it's uh it kind of goes to last week in Zodiac, whenever there's that whole scene where you have um Jake Gyllenhaal and Robert uh uh Downey Jr. and then Mark Ruffalo, and they're they're kind of talking through the case with like each other, um, but separately. And then they kind of realize that the taxi driver was to break his uh pattern so that it would be harder to find him. And this is probably why he would have done it, because they're like, oh shit, he keeps doing the same thing. So if I keep so the zodiac killer's thinking, if I keep doing the same thing, then you know, they'll eventually find me. So it's like broke the pattern and it really helped the zodiac not get caught.

SPEAKER_01 45:10

But but but when you um lay a trap for a a killer with a gun in a certain building, like an apartment building, for example, do you pee do you tell the people inside?

SPEAKER_02 45:23

You would think hey, we're hey, don't schedule your threesome.

SPEAKER_01 45:27

Maybe you should all just leave for like a day. Yeah. We're gonna have an insanely dangerous person come into your apartment building and go right right to the top of it. Yeah. We're leaving the doors unlocked for him.

SPEAKER_02 45:39

I guess you you can't do that though, because then it would be like, uh, what if they say something and they see the person coming to the building, they're like, hey, just so you know, like be careful, the killer might be here and we got cops on the lookout. And then it'd be like, oh, thanks, I'm leaving.

SPEAKER_01 45:55

Yeah, just leave.

SPEAKER_02 45:57

So it's like, well, it's just like if someone said that in the hallways like the killer, they would like ruin the whole setup. Yes. But then, like, you know, you got people on a um, so yeah, like they're on the rooftop, Callahan's just like being a peeping Tom again, and he sees that these couple are having a threesome. And if they told him, it'll ruin their threesome.

SPEAKER_01 46:12

Yeah, even though it got ruined anywhere, anyways, when there was gunshots. Can you imagine how hard it would be to schedule something like that? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:19

And I love like whenever he sees like the girl that's in the apartment. At first he just sees like the couple that are about to go to the apartment making out, and he's like, And then he sees the then he sees Chico. He sees he sees the girl who's just like in brawn panties, and she's like, hmm, oh wait. She goes away and then comes back completely naked. It's like, that's better. Is that what she's thinking? Like, oh shoot, I forgot I have clothes on.

SPEAKER_01 46:44

It's weird. This is weird. And why aren't you in uniform?

SPEAKER_02 46:48

Yeah. And I love that they're like under like a Jesus save sign. So funny. I feel like there's some sort of commentary there.

SPEAKER_01 46:58

Jesus saves the recording. Yeah. Every time.

SPEAKER_02 47:01

Um, but while he's being a peeping tom, he uh sees that the door from the roof is ajar and he's like, the killer is a big thing.

SPEAKER_01 47:07

Oh damn, I missed it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:09

Um, so working together, Gonzalez shines a spotlight on Scorpio as Harry aims his rifle and shoots at the crazed uh Scorpio. Um, and he keeps missing, and then Scorpio starts to grin giggle and uh grin gleefully and returns the bullets in repeating rifle fire and blasts the Jesus save sign above them. They pursue they pursue after him, but he escapes, but not before apparently killing Officer Collins. Another cop laments. He never knew I hit him.

SPEAKER_01 47:36

It was well, we did. It was a bullet. It was a bullet.

Buried Alive Ransom Nightmare

SPEAKER_02 47:39

It was a bullet from the killer. So the next day, Lieutenant Bressler's office. They are informed that Scorpio grabbed a 14-year-old girl girl and Mary Deacon. Um, and they have like a bunch of pictures of her. And uh Scorpio allegedly left a suspicious suspicious object in Golden Gate Park containing another demand letter. According to Bressler, the poor kid went to the movies last night and she never came back. She was buried alive with just a small amount of oxygen left to sustain her. Gonzalez reads the letter about Scorpio's burial of a live kidnapped young girl, which demands$200,000 this time. Let's just make it two billion dollars. Um but I guess um one million. Because of this movie, I guess it gave like some guy an idea like in the late 70s or 80s and kind of did the same thing. That's shitty. But they held her in like kind of uh like a hole that was similar to that, but uh the girl died after 48 hours because a bunch of leaves got over like the ventilation from the thing and it she uh passed out and died. That's sloppy. Yep. You're getting sloppy out there. It's like, come on, killer, you're supposed to go there and rape the leaves. He's like, dang, I forgot one thing. Uh the mother identified the bra of the girl, the and the like the little pieces of hair, and a bloody tooth extracted from her mouth. Pulled out with a pair of pliers. He said it's and wrapped in tissue. Harry immediately assumes the worst. You know she's dead, don't you? He's like, Thanks, Harry. But the mayor is gathering the funds to pay off the blackmailing um so that he will tell police where she is located. Brestler advises Callahan to play it straight in their race against time. He's using a lot or he's like, he's using up a lot of favors, Harry. He wants to pay, no tricks. That's the mayor. Or that's the lieutenant saying it to Callahan about the mayor. He volunteers to be the bag man to deliver the ransom money in a large yellow bag to the extortionist for the girl's release. Gonzalez asked whether he can cover Harry, but is denied the request. He discovers another reason for his partner partner's moniker. No wonder they call him Dirty Harry, always gets the shit end of stick. It's like, damn, Gonzalez just really like sat in pretty quick to fit null alongside Dirty Harry. So we see him at a hardware store. They're gonna, he's like wiring himself so that Gonzalez can follow him and hear him. Uh then he also, Callan is given the yellow bag containing$200,000. Um, uh like the police chief's like, make sure nobody takes this away from you.

unknown 50:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:08

Um, and Brestler advises that Harry may be led all over town and it's given specific instructions to not attempt to capture. And I love it. He's like, Did you count this? Like, it's not my job. He's like, I always knew I'd get rich on the police force. Um, so in few full viewer Brestler, Harry prepares himself with a long switchblade knife that he scotch uses Scotch tape to put to the side of his calf, and I was like, That's awesome. Scotch tape usually doesn't work that well. Uh no. If uh rapping gifts during Christmas says anything, I'm like, what does this tape even work for anything?

SPEAKER_01 50:40

Yeah, you really need some good strong like.

SPEAKER_02 50:42

I guess back in the day, probably before regulations tape actually worked.

SPEAKER_01 50:49

You can wrap a gift, you can wrap a person.

Payphone Sprint Across The City

SPEAKER_02 50:51

It'd make you go mentally insane because of all the stuff you're probably helping using the tape. It's a lead-based tape. Yeah. Um yeah, and like the uh the chief is like, uh, it's so sad that officers have to learn how to use these weapons, and it's like I always kind of forget, well, because switchblades, they they used to be illegal. Yeah, and it's like I can't believe you know you should be able to know how to use this. And it's like they're kind of rad. Does it matter what type of knife we know how to use? I mean, it's only saving you like a second whenever you use one, anyways. It's like a knife's a knife. And that's not a knife. This is his knife. Got him. Crocodile Dundee talk. His first destination is the boat dogs at the marina. A payphone rings with a call that warns he will be bounced all over town to make sure he's alone. Scorpio threatens with a deadly game. The girl dies if you fuck up. So his design his first destination in the chase across the city is in the Forest Hills Muni station, uh, where Callahan runs on foot. He rushes down a long flight of stairs to catch uh um like a I guess it's uh blanking on train. Catches a train, completely blanked on the name of those, apparently. He follows instructions to take the underground K streetcar after a short ride, exits at a church uh by Mission Dolores Park. He enters another payphone and is directed to go for a longer run next time and proceed his next steps back to where he's just come from, essentially. Um, and there's like an old man answers. He's like, get the fuck out of here. The guy's like, who was that? It's like, I don't know to some old man. He's like, dang some. It's like chill out next. No, like what do you expect? It's a public phone. Yeah. And then like um he says, public phone hamburger stand, aquatic park, hubba, hubba, hubba, pig bastard. It's like, what? And so then he goes to the next location, he enters to a tunnel run um where Harry. It's okay. So he enters the tunnel where he's uh met by some thugs on trying to rob him. He like scares him off with his gun after punching a couple of them. They're like, okay. But I love this scene, it's so fun. Just like him running all over the place, and it's just like it's kind of building up that tension. You're like, this isn't gonna end well, and I know.

SPEAKER_01 53:08

Can you imagine carrying that bag all over the place?

SPEAKER_02 53:10

Yeah, with also like that giant ass gun that he always carries. Yeah, it's always fun. It's like his pants are constantly about to fall off.

SPEAKER_01 53:16

He's gotta be wearing suspensions.

SPEAKER_02 53:18

Yeah. So in another phone booth, he is told to go to the massive illuminated cross at uh at Mount Davidson Park, a long distance away. On his way to the top of the steep park, he is again confronted by another person, a gay man named Alice for some reason. All right. It's like, why do they throw that in? I think like this movie is just really trying to uh hammer home. It's like San Francisco, it's crazy. Yeah. And because it's definitely playing into that, um, the idea that like California, that's where all the weirdos and crazies are. Oh, you can't go there. It's just like, I don't know. It's like they of course they may like makes that character as weird as possible, and it's like, what?

SPEAKER_01 54:07

And e in this time, w didn't people still use gay as in like happy also? Or is it kind of in that transitional?

Mount Davidson Beatdown And Escape

SPEAKER_02 54:15

I don't know. I think they've they've always I think it's I mean, I think they just probably used it both ways back then. Still, you know. So at this summit, under the tall concrete cost, Callahan is ordered by Scorpio, hidden in the shadowy dark of the night, to freeze just like a statue. He drops the back in my ass just so funny. It's like a red. I'm like, yeah, I was like, oh, I'm kind of glad it wasn't just a plain black uh thing. I was like, ooh, red, that's a fun little twist. Um so he drops the bag, surrenders his weapon, raises his hand, and turns his face across, put your nose right up against the cement. The killer, uh seen partly from bird's eye view, slugs and whips Callahan with his rifle, crosses the head side of the head, knocks him down, savagely kicks him, and he uh decides he's gonna change his mind. I'm gonna let her die. I just wanted you to know that. Um, as Gonzalez races up on foot into the park to intervene and save his partner, he listens to more of their conversation through his radio. Do you understand? I just wanted to make sure you knew that before I killed you, pig. Um, it fires at Scorpio to prevent the murder, but a shot and wounded in the process with his last bit of strength. Harry reaches and gets a switchblade and jams into the killer's thigh.

SPEAKER_01 55:28

It is the the funniest thing.

SPEAKER_02 55:31

It's like you keep calling these cops pigs, dude. You got stabbed, you stunned just like a squiggy pig. It's so good. I was just like, man, this guy sounds like a pig, and he keeps calling people pigs.

SPEAKER_01 55:46

This guy loves pigs. Yeah, his mask just made him look so silly.

SPEAKER_02 55:49

I know. It's like he has such a watt big mouth tooth. The guy knows how to open a mouth. Scorpio stumbles away with a yellow bag with a knife still stuck in his leg, tumbles down a steep dirt hill, and lets go the bag with a ransom. When he comes to a stop, Scorpio takes a tight grip of the blade handle and removes the stiletto from his leg with one excruciating blood-dripping pool before scaring away. Oh man. And I love the blood. It's so like bright red. Hell yeah. We used to make blood in this country. We used to have color for blood. In movies, they weren't CGI, GDS, dark as hell blood. Use corn syrup, like a real American. God bless the American. Uh so both Gonzalez and Callahan um are nearly killed, but they survived the attack. To Brestler, Callahan defends the action of Gonzalez in following him, especially especially against the direct orders of the Chiefs. Gonzalez was Gonzalez was obeying orders from his superior.

SPEAKER_00 56:51

Me.

Kezar Stadium Hunt And Torture

SPEAKER_02 56:52

He didn't know anything about it. And when the miss is over, if the if he wants my badge, well, he can have that too. Meanwhile, Scorpio got himself looked at in an emergency hospital to be treated. The doctor from the hospital uh calls the police with an important phone tip. Callahan and Bressler are given details about the stab wound treatment just administered to a guy who has a knife wound in that leg.

SPEAKER_01 57:16

Yeah, they'll just treat anybody with a stab wound, won't they?

SPEAKER_02 57:19

Pretty much. Well, back in the day, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:20

It seemed like Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:24

You're supposed to keep doing what you had long blonde hair, medium build, about 150 pounds, pale complexion. Both uh Giorgio and Callahan visit the hospital as the conversation continues. I believe he works around here. When they had football, he used to sell programs at the stadium. I think the groundskeeper lets him live there. Kezar Stadium, the two detects drive to the football stadium. Um, yet it's within easy walking distance, apparently. So finding the outer chain link fence locked, Harry decides to scale it. Um, while uh the guy named Fatso was like, too much linguine. Gotta go find another way in. It's like literally what it said. I was like, really? What do we do here? Um, but he did not get a warrant to enter the stadium. So and then we see Scorpio's eyes and music like that's great, are highlighted in the darkness as he watches Harry walk into the area and kick in the door of the groundskeeper room where he lives. Uh Harry hears footsteps and pursues the killer, hobbling and stumbling down some stairs, steps um to the closed midfield playing area as he calls out, stop, and points his gigantic magnum at him at the one in. And uh DeGiorgio turns the floodlights on in the stadium and illuminates the exact position in the field. And then like Giorgio's coming down, he's like, Go on, get out of here. Get some air fatso. He's like, You're the boss. Don't want anything to do with this. I got some leftover linguini in the car. I'm gonna finish. It does sound good though.

SPEAKER_01 58:56

God looks good, living game.

SPEAKER_02 58:58

And then I love it, Scorpio, who's like got a bullet wound in his leg. He's like, It's like, hell yeah. Love it. Squirbus. Um, and then he's like, uh, Harry aims a gun at the killer and uh single-mindedly wants to know where the girl is, uh buried and hidden, hiding behind and manipulating the protection of the state and the laws of the system. The Scorpio is a pro Yeah, and the Scorpio is just like, I have rights. I have rights. I thought this was America. This is supposed to be America. Should have listened to him. Should have listened to listen to the killer sometimes. So and then there's this great fucking shot, dude, of them on the football field. It's a helicopter shot and just zooms out. Good. This movie looks so good.

SPEAKER_01 59:55

It's 70 as hell. Should have made a football pun. Yeah, like you're in the red zone.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:00

Yeah. Looks like I got six points.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:07

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:11

And then, like, whenever he puts his foot, look puts his foot on his uh his wound, that's the extra that's the extra point. Now it's a total of seven points. And we're gonna do an onside kick.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:28

Yeah. Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:30

Uh I love the 49ers. The killer's like, what are we talking about here? I'm actually completely confused now. Uh, but it's so good. I love the shot there all of you. It's so good. Um, so yeah, and then uh Callahan's orthodox interrogation and torture are very effective. The location of the kidnapped and buried girl is extracted from the psycho later that evening.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:57

She's supposed to be 14?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:58

Yeah, supposed to be.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:00

That was weird.

Miranda Rules And DA Takedown

SPEAKER_02 1:01:00

And the pictures, I'm sure, I'm sure they used a different person to pull out a new element of the. Which is exactly what they say in the movie. So yeah, they find her new corpse and she's dead. Uh oh, so she was dead. I thought that oh no. Okay. No. Uh she's hauled out from her grave, a hole in the ground, laid on a stretcher and covered in it with a blanket. Soon after, in the office of district attorney. Um, so yeah, this is um He goes to the district attorney. This is the part of the movie where I'm like the movie's trying to get us on Dirty Harry's side. Right. The whole time. So I have been. It is kind of this fantasy of like, uh, if the cops could just really do what they wanted, they'd catch all the bad guys. Okay. Not true. Right. Obviously. They could get the wrong people. There's been a bunch of wrongly incarcerated people because of terrible police work. Um, so this whole scene is because the DA is like, you dumb fuck. You didn't do anything right, and now we can't charge this guy with anything. And he's like, What? And it's like, you gotta know this stuff, Dirty Harry. I mean, you just how long have you been a police? And because they're like, Can't we even have the rifle? It's like, you didn't get warrants, you didn't read them the Miranda rights. We literally can't do anything with this case now. And he's like, This is bullshit. And it's like, it's your fault. It's like I know you had, but it is one of those. But and then like, because there's also like the judge, he's just like, Yeah, man, you fucked up. You did everything wrong, so we can't use any of this stuff. But it's also very effective, especially when you know that they're getting it right, right? Because it's like, well, if that girl was alive, they could have saved him from what his actions were. Yeah. Which may have also at that point been a different story, because then she would have been alive and she could have been like, this guy kidnapped me and stuff, and then maybe you could do more police work and then it'd all come together. So you see why he did it, but it's also it's like you had your killer right here. Nothing bad would have ever happened after this if you just did everything by the book, but they also probably would have never found him.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:09

Yeah, that's true. She would have been dead anyway.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:11

It's just like, what the fuck are we supposed to do? This movie is very much in position of being like Dirty Harry did the right thing. Uh especially later at the end of the film. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:21

It's just not legal.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:23

Legally. And it's like it as much as like, oh, this part's problematic, also makes me kind of like appreciate it's like, damn, when cops do do the right thing and get the job done, God, it's so hard on them, you know?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:36

But it seems to me like it it shouldn't matter if they have the gun and they do a ballistics test, it shouldn't matter how you got it if it's the gun, right? Yeah. But I guess I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:45

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:46

Because it's like, well, what if you I mean at this point, Dirty Harry broke all the laws.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:50

All the lawyer has to say is Yeah, then then the whole case is thrown out.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:54

It's just like, well, what if he planted that gun? And then if you can't use certain amount of evidence, um, and it's not gonna be in the court, then it's like, what do you do? Right? So it's a tape. Yeah. And it it like sucks, but it's also there to protect to detect innocent people. And then it's just like, ah, what do we do here? So, and I think this is why this movie is kind of like more than just a ah, Dirty Harry, bang bang.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:21

You know, vigilante call.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:23

It's kind of a movie that makes you think a little bit about like or it kind of like makes you think about like, well, how do I feel about this? And movies like that are better than movies that don't make you think. That is true. That's really cool. Um, yeah, then Dirty Harry's like, I fucking hate everything. But it is, it is kind of a frustrating part because I'm like in my notes, but like, are you new here, Harry? Have you never been a have you never been part of the police? At least read the Miranda Lights. After you shot him, be like, well, I did one part right, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:55

I know, like imagine when that law, that law was just passing, it's so new, and everybody's like, oh man, I forgot.

Tylenol Case And Evidence Anxiety

SPEAKER_02 1:05:04

Yeah, I'm sure a lot of people probably got away with some stuff just because like, you know, like cops are like, oh, damn it, I didn't do that. Well, he's free to go. Shit. We were watching uh I can't remember me and my wife were watching a true crime talk and I can't remember if it was the Tylenol Killer or if it was a different one we were watching, but yeah, someone got their didn't have their Miranda Rites read to him. I think it was the Tylenol killer, and so they had to let him go.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:34

Damn. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:34

And they're it got like all the way like into court and they're like, they couldn't charge them. And uh was the Tylenol killer the one who was putting poison into he worked at the Tylenol like facility and was like so with the Tylenol c uh case, so they thought it was one guy who wrote so they put cyanide they took the capul capsules of uh Tylenol out and put cyanide in them instead. So they thought it was this one guy because this one guy, uh fucking crazy person who obvious definitely probably killed somebody and then raped somebody later in his life. Um then so they thought it was him because he wrote a ransom note to uh the cops or whatever or somebody saying, like, hey, I want so much money sent to this bank account, and apparently it was a rival of his that he did not like. Um and then it was RFK. But then they kind of I think they didn't read the Miranda ride, so they couldn't get him or something. But then they got him on um or no, they did get him for um uh what do you call it when you're trying to get money from people or in what blackmail? Blackmail or something, I can't remember off the top of my head. But so they gave him like the maximum sentence for that, which was 10 years. Extortion. Fuck yeah, Jason. So they got them for that. But uh there so the shitty thing about that is that they so when they did the investigation of all the Tylenol, they let Johnson and Johnson, who create makes Tylenol, do all of the testing on it. Oh yeah, and um Johnson and Johnson was like, we don't have cyanide in our in our plants.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:12

Definitely don't anymore.

Scorpio Plays The Victim

SPEAKER_02 1:07:13

Turns out in their plants, they could have easily someone could have easily went and got cyanide. So, but it definitely seems like the guy that they arrested the first time because he seemed uh like a not good dude. Sure. And very sketchy and definitely probably murdered somebody and cut up their body and put it in an attic. Um, but yeah, so so it's like tough because it's like I really want to blame Johnson and Johnson for it. Yeah, they do have some blame. They yeah, I mean they didn't do it maliciously, but they definitely didn't protect themselves. They did not keep deadly things away. So um it's one of those situations. So it it definitely so no the case is unsolved, essentially. Yeah. Um dying on top. So uh so the it's very sad though, like the way that a lot of people died. There's like three people in one family on like the same day. Damn. Yeah. Literally, the person that died, um, two other people later had headaches from being just being so distraught and stuff, they took the same bottle of pills and then they died immediately. And it's just like, what a bad day for that family. So on this on a street in the city, the long-haired Scorpio limps around um uh past a plywood barrier near a playground painted with black graffiti down with the pigs. Close up of his waist reveals ironically that he wears a misshapen and twisted uh peace symbol belt buckle and un um yeah, like for the, you know, the peace-loving hippies and anti-war movement, late 60s. Obsessed to catch Scorpio stubbing um obsessed to catch Scorpio, Callahan shadow shadows the release killer as he makes the rounds of the city and ventures into the red light district at the Roaring Twenties Club featuring topless dancers in a bar. So uh later Scorpio contacts a man in a rundown factory and hires him for$200 worth of getting the shit beat out of him. And he wants every penny's worth. All right. Um he's gonna beat his face and body to um to make him look nasty and like a bloody pulp essentially. Um he then like starts like saying racist thing to the guy because he's like, Are you sure you want like all of it? And then he's like then he like really kicks him in the stomach and then throws him out. It's like I'm fucking done. Um so yeah, then he uh to retaliate against uh Callahan. Um so he goes and is like he contacts like the media and stuff. He's like, Yeah, he's been following me and like this, I'm being harassed, and this is what they did to me. It's like I'm innocent to proven guilty, and it's like I'll the doctors punch you in the face afterwards. Um and he's like, they're harassing me for no reason. Um and then uh and he specifically identifies Callahan as the person who did it to him. And so the statements are gonna run at four o'clock news and are set to be printed in the San Francisco Chronicle to the police chief. Harry admits conducting surveillance on Scorpio in an unofficial capacity on my own time, but denies beating him up because he looks too damn good. That's how I know I didn't do it. Yes. Um, the chief issues a restraining order towards Callahan, no more interference with the suspect. I don't want any more surveillance. Oh, wait, no, I'm sorry. I'm getting confused on who's saying what. He says I don't want any more surveillance. This is the Clinton verse. Yeah. As Harry leaves the office, Eastwood verse Eastwood verse. As he leaves the office, he quips that Scorpio has also achieved what he wants. Um money. Well, because he's like, I don't want you to surveillance him anymore. And he's like, Oh yeah, neither does he.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:50

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:52

So Callahan visits his check his Facebook. Yeah. Callahan visits uh his partner, Chico, who is in physical therapy and expresses how his recurring second thoughts have led him to quit the police force. He has decided to not return to the life-threatening profession, been a lot of thinking about it. I have a teaching credential, and I figure, what for, you know? Uh Chico's blonde wife, Norma, also nervously has worried about her husband's safety amidst the scum of the city, blames herself for causing her husband to leave the force. Harry is forced to remember that his ex-wife also objected to his dangerous job and lost her to wife to a drunk driver. Um, even Harry admits that he understands their decision. Tell him I understand, you know, him quitting. I think it's all right. This is no lie for you two. And also, I told you so. Yeah. I try to tell him to not work with me, and I don't know what to say. Harry also confesses to himself that he is too at a loss knowing why he still remains in the force. I don't know. I really don't. My voice it's getting worse. Something about my voice. Something. I used to talk like this. And now I talk like this.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:01

A short while later, Scorpio, uh, can you just go to a speech therapist and be like, give me the Eastwood treatment?

SPEAKER_02 1:12:08

Yeah, it's like uh smoke 40 cigarettes a day.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:11

Put all these gravels in your mouth and gargle. Yeah. Gargle some acts.

Bus Hijack And Final Showdown

SPEAKER_02 1:12:14

And make sure you grit your teeth and grind them so hard that they eventually fall out. Come a long way. Short while later, Scorpio um robs a liquor sore for one evening that has already been a long history of frequent robberies, 14 times in the last three years. Nice. Uh he clobbers the much robbed uh armed liquor proprietor.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:34

Over robbed, if you ask me.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:35

Yeah, on the side of the head with a bottle of uh liquor that he has just purchased, takes the man's gun in another liquor bottle and rushes out of the store. Feel so bad for this guy. Because like he's um Scorpio's doing a great job of being like, oh, don't point that at me. I'm I'm I'm scared of guns. Like, the guy's like, God dang it. I like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:57

I like that he grabbed a replacement on his way out though. That was smart. I was like, oh you didn't pay for it.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:02

Yeah. That's just like at this point, there's a certain point where he's like, I've I'm retiring. Oh, I'm gonna do something else. Um, so uh, and then the next day, the uh Scorpio chooses more innocent victims when he hijacked, hijacks a yellow school bus with seven children as it makes its afternoon rounds. He jumps aboard, impersonates a bus inspector, and then terrifies the female driver on the bus uh with a gun pointed at her midsection. Hear me, you old hag. I'm telling you to drive, or I'll decorate this bus with your brains. He turns around and encourages the school children to sing. And then one starts singing, Oh McDonald, have a farm. And then uh, yeah, so he he starts, uh, all the kids innocently joins, and then even Scorpio starts to fun. And the bus driver starts crying, and I'm like, it's gonna be so terrifying for her. Just like the amount of responsibility. Like, not only do you have to keep it together, you also have a gun pointed at you, and you're terrified for these children. Terrifying. Then you know you're probably gonna get shot at the end of it.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:09

How many bus inspectors are walking around this city? I don't know. It's like, what do you do they usually inspect the buses? I don't know. Uh maybe don't let adults on the kids' buttons. Shut the door, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:14:18

It's always like one of those things. It's like, so what, as soon as you get on the bus, you're just gonna they're gonna just be as well behaved as possible. So what's the point? But maybe they're supposed to like check the doors and seats and make sure everything's safe. Meanwhile, Harry Callahan is summoned to San Francisco City Hall where he climbs the steps to the mayor's office as he is joined there by Lieutenant Bressler. The mayor has already responded to another ransom note delivered at 8 a.m. in the morning from Scorpio. Scorpio calls and informs the mayor that he has just hijacked a charter service school bus and kidnapped seven children and the bus driver from the uh school. I've got I've I need I should have got like a voice for the Scorpio. It's like, I've got the kids. You start screwing around, the kids start dying. Holding the city hostage a second time, he orders the preparation of a jet plane from Santa Rosa Airport with ransom demands of$200,000 within a half hour, then alerts him to his plan. So, uh, mayor guarantees the criminal safe passes to escape the plan. I guarantee you, you will not be molested in any way. I give you my word of honor on it. It's like, fuck off, mayor. Yeah, I'm the mayor. Yeah, I'm the mayor. We've never lied or anything. Ever. All mayors are always respectable.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:30

Dip into my own bribe fund, pay you.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:33

Which I did uh to get this job. So a second time Callahan is asked to deliver the ransom money to meet blackmailer's demands, and he explodes in anger, refusing to do the mayor's police bidding. Uh, you can get yourself another police delivery boy.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:49

Yeah, or just use like UPS or something.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:51

I mean, at that point, like, do you blame us? Like, fuck off. What about just because why would you want to send me?

SPEAKER_01 1:15:57

I need to try something else.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:59

Yeah. So he chooses to pursue and stop Scorpio this time on his own terms. In the final hijack bus school school bus sequence, the bus passes um like the Golden Gate Park or whatever. When the bus approaches within um hearing distance, the children are now singing row your bolt boat. The bus crosses the Golden Gate Bridge heading towards Marine County, where it drives through a tunnel. The warped, frightening, and vicious monster begins to terrify the children by slapping them and extorting them to sing. All your mother's gonna die if you don't start singing. I'm gonna kill all your mothers. And so they turn off the highway, um, going to San Quentin. It's horrible. Um, against orders, Dirty uh Dirty Harry pursued the killer as his personal vendetta. He is positioned on a wooden railroad, trestle above uh San Francis Drake Boulevard, waiting there for the right moment to jump on the roof of the moving bus. Um, Scorpio's like, no way, dude. Are you serious? Whoa, this is about to be a rad ending. It is wild. It's like, wow, he knew exactly where they were going. And he's like, I'm gonna stand on here and look hella cool. So uh Scorpio shoots his pistol at the roof of the bus uh after Callahan gets on it, uh, trying to hit the detective. After the bus driver screams, faints.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:19

Dirty hair is just shooting indiscriminately into the bus. I don't care how many kids I gotta kill to kill you. He's really point break at this.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:29

Yeah. Um but yeah, the guy, uh Scorpio knocks out uh the bus driver. Uh, then he takes the wheel, sideswaps a VW bug, and then swerves the bus to try to dislodge Callahan from the top of the roof. When the vehicle veers and crashes into some gates at a rock quarry, um, Callahan is also thrown from the bus into some sand. Scorpio escapes through the bus's rear emergency exit and runs to the gravel plant. Through dusty corridors where his crushed rock is being conveyed. The cop chases and tracks after his uh Scorpio through the plant, exchanging gunfire several times. The pursuit leads to a small pond with a wooden platform uh behind the civility. There, Scorpio grabs a young boy, who is his stepson, in real life, who is fishing, uh shields himself and points a gun at the boy, Ted, laughing madly and gleefully while threatening I'll blow his brains out, but Callahan won't surrender and drops his weapon. The accurate marksman narrowly misses the boy with one shot that severely wounds Scorpio to the upper left shoulder. Um, this allows the young male hostage to escape. Um Harry walks slowly to the Scorpio and stands above him with his magnum for their final showdown during the manhunt, gritting both his teeth and jaw, um, gives him a grin, a repeat of his monologue from earlier.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:44

Oh, word for word. Do you feel lucky? What do you punk?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:48

By reaching for his own gun, hoping that Harry is out of ammunition, he shoots the man or Scorpio while he reaches for a gun, but there is one more bullet in Harry's gun. Scorpio has executed a headshot wound in his or a shot dead in his chest. Yeah, and throws him back into the water. And then um Callahan takes out his uh badge and is like, I can't fucking work for this system anymore and throws his badge away. A beautiful helicopter shot as he walks away.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:20

That was rad. I feel like point because it reminded me like of point break when he does it.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:26

This movie is very influential.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:28

And uh all the shooting into the air, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:34

Maybe the it is kind of they're kind of two good movies to watch next to each other because uh you know you got the gruff manly version, which is dirty hairy, and then you got the sensitive point break version.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:46

But it's so different because he just never should have been hired. Yeah. Keanu Reeves, football players shouldn't just get to be cops, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:57

Right. He was he was the best damn FBI agent they had. No, it wasn't he was good at shooting his gun and all the training, Jason. And he had the man, the myth, the litter, Gary Busey by the side. That is true.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:15

Like too bad, uh, too bad Harry didn't, you know, whenever him and Gonzalez didn't go to a hot dog stand and be like, Utah, or uh Gonzalez two hot dogs. That would have been great.

So What Is The Point

SPEAKER_02 1:20:34

One for now and one for dinner. Jason, what is the point of dirty hairy?

SPEAKER_01 1:20:42

Um, I guess uh it's I guess the the whole movie is really about how he's just like uh dirty Harry is just kind of un uneded. Yeah, unhinged a little bit, but he's also like a pretty he's not unhinged, he's very like put together in the movie, like mentally and stuff, but it just I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:07

I for me I put the police are always right and you'd be able to do whatever they want. Yeah, that's it. No, it's just definitely like a it's just like a police fantasy.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:18

How far would you go to I guess fulfill justice? Is that really justice if you're doing it wrong?

SPEAKER_02 1:21:28

At this point, uh by the end of the movie he's a vig vigilante. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:32

What's what uh differentiates uh uh justice from uh vigilanteism? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:40

It really is a movie that's just like we have laws in place to protect, but it also hinders. So maybe we need a dirty hairy, but also at the same time I feel like how many people have died innocently because of a dirty hairy. But it is a movie, so it's just supposed to be a police fantasy.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:57

We all need a every police force needs at least one dirty hairy.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:02

And this is kind of how like all cop movies were back in the day.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:05

Yeah. They're all just like the cops gotta get the job done no matter what. Um, which is hella fun to watch. It is. But if you think about it, you're like, I mean, it's it's nice that he knows that it's the killer, so it's like, all right, but like what if he was wrong? Then he's fucked up this guy's life. But you know, by the end, it's like, well, he obviously got the right guy here. Um but yeah, that's like when I was watching, I was like, I guess the police are we should just always uh let the police do what they want, I guess. And in California, around this time, it was never an issue. It was never an issue for certain people in that area. Yeah, you know. I mean the movie kind of is a western, yeah, which is Clint Eastwood's Will Forte. I love that he's got the biggest, the most powerful pistol on the planet. Yeah, it makes me want to play arc raiders and use the anvil. Yeah. Really just go around with my mic on every time someone like starts shooting people when they're downed. How many bullets did I feel? You feel lucky, punk.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:08

Have you seen video guy who goes around downs players and asks them if they support Trump?

Good Bad Ugly Fine Ratings

SPEAKER_02 1:23:13

Oh, no, but I did. I don't know if I ever sent you the video, but there was um, I'll have to try to find it because I sent it to a couple of my friends, and it was uh a guy comes out and he's like, his name is Donald Trump. And so he's doing the Donald Trump voice. And it's funny because there's someone that's also named Chris Hansen that walks up. Chris Hansen, I love Chris Hansen. I'll have to remember to send you that. Um so we're gonna hit our next category: the good, the bad, the ugly, the fine. Also, let us know what the point of the movie is. Uh, it's where we discuss the good of the film, something we like, the bad, something we didn't like, the ugly, something didn't age well, the fine something did age well. Sorry, I get a little loopy. Coffee's coffee's running kind of falling out of my system. I can barely lift my arms.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:55

Yeah, you're leaking all over the place. Yes, what's up with that?

SPEAKER_02 1:23:58

Uh don't want to talk about it. So I'm for the good, I put um Eastwood and uh the actor that played The Killer, Andrew Robertson, whatever his name was.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:10

Yeah, I think they both did a phenomenal job. Excellent job. And I really liked uh the music, like we said before.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:16

It's just it's such a should I be tapping my toes while these kids are getting slapped around?

SPEAKER_01 1:24:21

It's the it's I don't know, it's such a cool time to be alive. Yeah so funky. So funky.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:28

It's like it and it's such a juxtaposition to like what we have now where everything he's doing, wah or like very synthy, because we've you know we've completely reverted back to 80s style uh scores, which I love. But it's just kind of nice to hear you got Toby Maguire from Spider-Man 3 dancing in every the background of every scene. Um for the bad, I put the detective doesn't know the laws. Yeah. So I think the one part where I was like, huh? Why is he so surprised about any of that?

SPEAKER_01 1:25:07

You don't need to know the laws when you've got a giant gun. When you got a magnum, you are the law. Yes. That's the whole point. Yeah. Um you got anything for the bad? Not really, no. And you didn't like No I pretty much I mean, there's a lot you could say about slurs. But Yeah, but I mean But I feel like in every Clinton Eastwood movie it's pretty obvious that he it is kind of put in there to be um non-serious.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:35

Like it's not Yeah, they're representing the time and what these people would have probably thought. And uh Dirty Harry and because they are books, I believe. Oh, really? I think. And this yeah, they're all books. Like all of them are based on books, I believe. I think uh if I'm wrong, you can send me some mail and tell me I'm wrong. Um I guess I could look it up, but I'm forcing you to give me some fan mail.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:58

Yeah, I don't think there's really anything bad.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:00

Uh yeah, I mean it's just a movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:02

Um I thought even the sound effects are like really good for nice. Yeah, the gunshots are great. It's uh everything just looks so shiny, colorful.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:11

It's amazing. San Francisco's a great place to film a crime story, as we've found out in the past two movies pretty much. Um The Ugly I put rogue police. Uh it works in this case, but uh it's all movies caught movies were. Uh nowadays we realize how it sometimes doesn't work out. Right. It's great when they get the killer, it's bad when they don't get the killer and they get the wrong person.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:33

I think my ugly was about the if you're gonna say a girl's 14, you know, she doesn't have to be naked when you pull out of a hole. Yeah. It's just like that's just a little unnecessary. Yeah. They cover her up with a sheet.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:46

I don't know. Uh I guess it's I get what you're trying to do.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:50

Yeah, they're really trying to make like you see how fucking brutal this is?

unknown 1:26:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:53

Like I get why they did it, but it's just like it's still sad either way. You didn't really need it, right? Don't retrop sweepers scene. Uh the fine. Something that age will. Uh the killer. I found him scary.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:07

I didn't find him scary. He was like too goofy for me. It was just when he slapped the kids.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:11

I'm like, this is a nightmare.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:13

Yeah, it's insane. But but if you ever if you grew up riding a bus all the time, it's this shit happened. You know, it just happened.

Double Features And Sequels

SPEAKER_02 1:27:20

This shit happened. School bus did you drive right in. Man, I had kids on the bus that might have been psychos. Uh should look them up. Wild shit happens on the bus, man. Yeah. I got picked on a lot on the bus. Oh. Until I got in high school and people were like, no, Jesse's cool. I just hid, basically. Just like, where have you seen Jason? Yeah, he's hiding under the seat. I don't know. Yeah, basically. Um This killer is scary. I know from watching watching, you know, like the movie, I'd be like, ah, this isn't scary, but like, if you can if this guy was in real life, yeah. What the hell? Honestly, I think it is because I've been watching so much uh true crime talks. Like I've watched like five or six in the past like week. Nice. So uh is that why you're so upset? Uh it it leads to a lot of weird thoughts before bed. I'm just like, I'll start thinking about it. I'm like, I don't want to think about this fucking pet. So I've been putting on Ghost Adventures. Nice. And I'm like, Zach Baggins, so dumb. Love that boy. Hate him and love him. Um I forgot where I was going with this, and I gotta stop because that's annoying to hear on a podcast. So uh we're gonna hit our next category double feature. I chose Lethal Weapon. Nice. Which one? Just the first one? First one, yeah. It's the only one I remember the most.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:43

I remember the fourth. Fourth one, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:46

That's considered the worst one. Really? Yeah. Just because uh, you know, you always think of Lethal Weapon being really funny. Yeah. And I do remember watching the fourth one, our boy Pesh. The Joe, the Pesh. Yeah, yeah. The legend. Um and it's very much just a comedy in that one. That movie. Um you go back to the first one, not a comedy. Definitely about a cop with PTSD. Oh, yeah. A lot of suicide stuff in it as well.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:13

Um I don't know. I'm I just I four was the only one I ever owned. And so I watched it all. Oh, that makes sense. And that makes sense. Why didn't you? I never even I was an adult before I even saw the first one.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:24

Yeah, is that the one where he's sitting on the toilet? Uh and like the toilet bomb? Or is that the first or second one?

SPEAKER_01 1:29:31

I just I remember the in the fourth one, they're trying to fight the guy with the flamethrower, and he's like, take off your pants and go quack, like go cluck like a chicken to get his attention.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:40

Yeah, and uh first movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:41

They just make fun of him for it.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:43

The first movie starts off with Mel Gibson potentially jumping off a building. So, you know. Uh it's wild how the sequels is kind of like if you think about Rambo, by the time you get to the end one, it's like, what? And by the time you get to the end of the Lethal Weapon, it's like, what? Um, but yeah, that first Lethal Weapon's great. Uh written by Shane Black. Nice. We will we should do Lethal Weapon later this year. If it comes on streaming, we'll do it. Fuck yeah. Uh, what's your double feature?

SPEAKER_01 1:30:09

Well, I was looking, I I thought maybe check out one of the other um Dirty Harry movies.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:15

Magnum Force apparently is the second best one.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:18

Yeah, I'd say even though I haven't seen it, like I would recommend watching those because yeah, I kind of want the box set of them now just to check them all out. Yeah, they're they seem pretty cool because none of them are streaming anywhere.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:27

All these god dang streaming sites. Why is it never any of the movies you want to do on TikTok? It's like I always like, oh, I want to do this movie. Where is it on nothing? Where's it all with this movie? On nothing. Because you know, I don't want us to have to rent every time we do a movie because it's like five dollars. And it's getting to the point where I'm like, might as well just buy these movies, right? Just to have them. Um, yeah, that's a good choice. Even though I've never seen them.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:52

I know. I want to watch them too.

Next Movie And Farewell

SPEAKER_02 1:30:53

Hell yeah. Uh that's it. We did it. Yeah. Bing bang boom, baby. We've done Dirty Hairy.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:00

Now we've done it dirty.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:02

Now that we've had uh fun with our serial killer series here, our zodiac themed serial killings. It's time to laugh, baby. It's time to have some fun. And tomorrow, the great late Catherine O'Hara, one of the great comedic actors ever. Um she's amazing in this movie. She's like the drunk. Oh, go ahead and like the person. Uh, we're doing Orange County. I just made it. I love when like the person comes to uh Colin Hanks' house, and uh like he's gotta have like a good interview with the person so he can get into the college and she's spiraling out of control because she's drunk and on pills, and she's so funny. Jack Black crushes Mike White's in it. Yeah, he's so cool. Mike White's in it. He's on Survivor, the season of Survivor. It's so good. Mike White did The White Lotus, he's also a huge Survivor fan. People that he did Survivor with are in White Lotus one in season one and two. Cool. Fun.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:00

I never really watched Survivor, so I didn't really catch it. I know.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:03

And uh as y'all know, Daddy loves Survivor. Real Survivor Head. Real Survive Head. Jeff Propes is daddy. He rapped on this latest episode. What? I was like, you're trying to get people to continue to watch Survivor. So and new audience members, and I'm just like, you you chose wrong. Jeff Propes. He's like, everybody start doing this.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:27

Oh no.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:28

And then he started doing like a fucking slam poetry rap or whatever. And it's just like sounds horrible. Uh you got like people like the contestants are all like, whoa, and I'm like, no, this is cringe watching at home.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:44

They probably don't have a lot of entertainment on the island, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:48

Yeah, they do. They got plenty. I have no idea. I've never seen it. Constantly scheming against each other. Oh, it's so fun. I love getting tipsy watching Survivor. Just like yelling at my wife for strategy plans for each player. And I'm like, I'm so sorry. I do not.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:02

You gotta do the same thing with the show alone. Oh, yeah. But it's I guess it's not as good. That's where they're like in that's the stuck out in the wilderness alone. It's a fun show.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:12

I do like it. Yeah. Um, Survivor. Alone talk. All right, I gotta go get a haircut. Holy shit. Time to wrap it up. Um, thank you for listening. Orange County, watch it, listen to us, and leave us some fan mail, leave us some reviews. Thank you, Mark, once again, my dog Mark with a C. Um I suspect uh leave us some more comments. We'll talk about some more. Um yeah, uh leave a review, follow, tell friends about us, uh, do other stuff, leave reviews, please. Leave reviews, please.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:49

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SPEAKER_02 1:33:53

Your nearest antenna, I'll look for it. Um, but yeah, thank you, Joey Prosser, for our intro and outro music. This has been the We Recommend Podcast of Been Jesse. I've been Jason. I know, I know what you're thinking. Did we fire six podcasts or only five? Do you feel lucky?

SPEAKER_00 1:34:14

Do you punk by the bigger?