Orange County

Orange County is a coming of age comedy that moves like it has something to prove, because it does. We recommend it for one simple reason: it crams a full story, a stacked cast, and a ridiculous number of laughs into 82 minutes without feeling rushed. If you’ve ever wanted to sprint out of your hometown and never look back, this one understands that feeling and then pokes holes in it.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:03

Hello and welcome to the We Recommend Podcast, a movie podcast where every week we recommend a movie for you to watch, and then come back here and listen to us discuss. I'm Jesse. I'm Jason. Sean, you're my same height. That is neat. Cause this week we recommend Orange County. Yeah, boy. I wish I didn't say that. Um man, this movie, you know, I'm gonna name some things that make this movie good. Alright, go for it. Harold Ramus. Yes. Catherine O'Hara. Yeah. John Lithgau. Hell yeah. It's funny. Jack Black. Mike White wrote it. And the most important thing of it all, an hour and 22 minutes. Oh. Ladies and gentlemen. Man. Give it an Oscar.

SPEAKER_05 0:58

It really should. They squeeze so much goodness.

SPEAKER_03 1:01

I know. It's a whole story. There's there's so many memorable things. Yeah, that's wholesome. Do you want me to get naked and start the revolution? We're gonna go pick our butts. Jack Black is amazing in it. There's just so much cleverness in it, and it tells a full story and doesn't overstay its welcome. Wow. Yeah, you're right. And every scene is funny. And it has the best soundtrack. It really does. Like everything. And I know I feel like it's making fun of me by having the soundtrack it does, and me being like, hell yeah, butterfly fucking rolls.

SPEAKER_04 1:35

2010s. Yeah, it's like the uh it's wild.

SPEAKER_03 1:40

So much butt rock and just like weird the whatever the pop music was then. And cake. Like that fucking cake song kicks ass. And I mean the movie is loaded with stars. Yeah. Like, you know, the biggest one, Katherine O'Hara, R.I.P. funniest person. She's like in every good movie that you like. And it's while she just pops up and it's like, she's the funniest person here. It's like, did something happen to uh Bob? Did something break?

SPEAKER_04 2:12

Literally nobody care.

SPEAKER_05 2:13

That's so funny because my my mom remarried a guy named Bob. Really? And he was so much older than her. And it was it's so similar. That's insane.

SPEAKER_04 2:25

Well, he wasn't as like geriatric as geriatric as this guy, but like for sure he was geriatric.

SPEAKER_03 2:32

Yeah. Oh man, like talk about a family trying to ruin their son's life. Good. I don't think they're trying. I just think that every I think Well, not trying, yeah, but just completely successfully ruined his life.

SPEAKER_05 2:44

Every adult is so insanely incompetent. Yeah. At the at the beginning of this film.

SPEAKER_03 2:50

There is like when Ashley makes the argument, it's like you're just trying to run away from everybody. I'm like, Yeah, he should. Other than you, get the fuck out of this county. Have her go to a school closer to Stanford or something. Have her go.

SPEAKER_05 3:06

Listen to yourself.

SPEAKER_03 3:08

If he got into if she, I mean, if that was possible. Or just both of you guys like be like, all right, let's go to a school far enough outside of Orange County that we can be successful at.

Why The Comedy Lands

SPEAKER_05 3:19

Yeah, just just long enough so that you realize that Orange County's not that bad.

SPEAKER_03 3:23

Yeah. Listen to us. We watched this movie and like, hey, the point of it, we didn't like it. It was wrong. Just kidding. I think it's a sweet movie. It is so sweet. You liked the movie, eh? When was the first time you watched it? Or is this the first time you did it? I don't know. No, and I this isn't the first time. I don't remember the first time I watched it. Uh mine was on Comedy Central for sure.

SPEAKER_05 3:44

Yeah, I think that's probably what it was.

SPEAKER_03 3:46

Maybe you might have rented it. Like half the movies that are comedies that we're gonna put that we put on this podcast are like, yeah, I saw on Comedy Central for the first time. Well, Comedy Central was such a different animal. Yeah, it was way better than like every shit. It had all the funny stuff on it. It was great. That in TBS, it's like that's those were comedy was, and that's like the two stations I watched. Oh man. Um, I saw this, and the first time I saw it, I didn't like it. Yeah. Yeah. I was I think I was I was yumming, young and dumb at that point. Like because it was like recent because it came out in 2002, and I was I was only like 11 when it came out. So, you know, I didn't have any taste in anything.

SPEAKER_05 4:26

Yeah, I had no idea who Jack Black was back then. Yeah. I just remember loving his older brother. Yeah, I don't think I did either.

Cast, Creators, And Context

SPEAKER_03 4:32

He reminded me a lot of my older brother. Even though I think my brother was listening to Nacious D at that point, and I loved cue balls and sausage. Your butt cheeks are warm. Die you're nerdicks. Um, but the thing is, every time I watch this movie, it like gets better and better and better. It's like the more I age and the smarter I got, the like, oh, like the butterfly song, you know, when they're all dancing, I'm like, I don't get it. It's a cool song. Why is he so upset? And then I'm like, oh, it's because it's like, you know, it's like, oh, look at all these superficial people, and it's like they're all dancing together, and it's just like, I gotta get out of these like clicks and shit and stuff like that. Uh, or something like that, yeah. Um, and then it's just like the comedy gets funnier the older you age, like that the adults get funnier as you age. You're like, oh I will eat your face. And then like like the maids do everything in the house room. And then with uh her ex-husband, it's just like every time the kid acts up, it's like, where's the maid? Go upstairs and give him his Ritalin. Yeah. Very accurate. It's exactly what people and it's like written by Mike White, and you know, he like him and Jack Black were actually neighbors, and like he wrote this for him uh completely. And Mike White, you know, School of Rock, movies like that. Hell yeah. Um, and White Lotus. He did the three seasons of White Lotus, and made it to the final three in Survivor, and spoilers, spoilers, spoilers for the most recent episode of Survivor. I'm pissed. He I recently evicted from Survivor or uh voted out from Tribal Council. I should watch Survivor, yeah, you should. And I'll tell you which seasons to watch so that you can miss the bad ones. Alright, alright. Um but yeah, and he's so funny on those he's like so good on those seasons because you know he talks to like he has to talk in rooms with producers and like convince people to do, you know, to make give me millions of dollars to make a story. And it's like I don't know. And he's just like a naturally funny person. Um and he like makes like White Lotus does not seem like Mike White when you see him, but then you're like, I can see that little weirdness in you. Yeah, I don't even know what he looks like. Yeah, and um this was uh directed by Jake Kazdan, who is Lawrence Kazden's son, who did uh he's the one that directed Empire Strikes Back. Uh The Big Chill and movies like that. Yeah. He's a track.

SPEAKER_05 7:10

You just put Empire Strikes Back and Big Chill in the same like Yeah, two equally good movies.

SPEAKER_03 7:17

I love the Big Chill. I don't think I've seen it. Uh it has just the cast is fantastic. Oh, there's uh it's just it's kind of like a hey, when boomers were in their middle ages type of movie, but it's like, I don't know, it's interesting. You know, it's got a great soundtrack, and it it really is just like a group of people coming back because someone died and they're just kind of like talking, and it's you got like all the okay, let me just look up who's in it. Um because I I apologize if I sound sick, it's because I am sick. Um and I can't think good, which is no different than anything. So I mean it's got like William Hurt, Glenn Close, Kevin Klein, Jeff Goldblum, and Meg Tilly, Kevin Costner, um Tom Burger, Bird Bur Burger. So, like, you know, that's a fucking rad ass cast. Um but Jay Kazden, um, he has worked with Jack Black like on almost every movie. Uh he's done this, he done the the new Jumanji movies, he produced What with The Rock? Yeah, and he produced um New Girl. He's like the reason New Girl exists. God, New Girl is so good. Um, so you know two two two great minds came together.

SPEAKER_05 8:28

Yeah, man. Um New Girl's one of my favorite shows. Yeah, it really is. It kind of trailed like towards the game.

SPEAKER_03 8:34

You give me cookie, I give you cookie. You give me cookie, I give you cookie.

SPEAKER_05 8:41

What did he do after you said you loved him? Or what after finger guns? Oh, yeah, finger guns.

SPEAKER_03 8:51

Then he moonwalk away. Yeah. It's like I my favorite stuff with him is like when he does his pranks. It's like it's the first prank episode that like that was like one of the first times I cry laughed on that show. We're like, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna like burn a shoe, and then we're gonna put a little dust outside of his car window. It's like it's not a prank. Where it's like, how about this? We drop a car on. It's like too big of a prank. So lunators. Um, so this is a great cast, right? Yes. Agreed. Do you what do you think about Colin Hanks in this cast? The lead. It's Tom Hanks' son, by the way. That's Tom Hanks' son. Yeah, can't you tell? No. No, there's his bowl cut sucks. Yeah. There's some movies when like you'll see him act and you're like, oh shit, that's very Tom Hanks of him. That's kind of cool. I never knew that. That's crazy. Do you like him though?

unknown 9:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:48

Like in this role. I think he's great for this role. Sometimes when I see him, I'm like, I don't know, I don't trust him. And I can't explain why.

SPEAKER_05 9:58

I trust him more than he trusts his hairdresser.

SPEAKER_03 10:02

Right. I know. They really did give him a shitty haircut. Like everybody has pretty decent hair in this sense of friend. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 10:07

I think he's just got a uh the an unfortunate face, also. Yeah, yeah. So the hair, there's just like not much you can do with it.

SPEAKER_03 10:16

It's just like if if Tom Hanks had the blandest son.

SPEAKER_05 10:19

Yeah, but no, I think he's like, I always like him. Faces facial wise. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought I always think he just looks like a genuine person.

SPEAKER_03 10:28

Yeah, he really does. He looks like just a regular human being, which is nice. Just like sometimes when I see him in it, I'm like, hope he doesn't have too big of a part, but then I always like enjoy him. So maybe it's just something I'm going through. Um, Jack Black, always funny, huh? Isn't that weird? Yeah. He's been doing like pretty much the same thing since the start of his career, and uh, I don't ever get tired of it.

SPEAKER_05 10:54

I know. I I did kind of get tired of him in the Minecraft movie. Um, but I don't think that was the situation.

SPEAKER_03 11:00

I think the thing is you're tired of the whole movie. Yeah. Still need to watch it. Except I just want to invite a bunch of like young people to watch it so they can just like throw popcorn everywhere and trash my entire house whenever they see a chicken jump.

SPEAKER_05 11:14

Yeah, that didn't happen in when I went. So like, yeah, I know what you're talking about.

Coming Of Age In Real Life

SPEAKER_03 11:18

Because you know, we can't just go we can't go to the theaters and be normal human beings anymore. Um, do you so do you have like your own coming of age moment? Because you know, it's a coming of age story, and there's always like the moment in those movies where you're like, oh hold on, I've figured everything out. Uh not really. Yes, me either. I feel like I've had a billion tiny little moments like that, but not like where I have to run somewhere now.

SPEAKER_05 11:47

Is that when you realize everything you thought was true is actually bullshit? I've had those moments.

SPEAKER_03 11:52

Oh yeah, yeah, kinda. Yeah, it's like not as happy as the come again to age moment, but you know, I just think it's like sometimes I think it's like even a small of enough of a thing to be like, I don't think I ever want to talk to this person ever again. Yeah, no, I've had lots of things. Or what if I um while I'm at work, I try to not talk to this person ever again? Right.

SPEAKER_05 12:14

Yeah, no, that's why I wear my headphones. So that I feel like that's like the universal sign for don't fucking talk to me.

SPEAKER_03 12:19

Doesn't work. Doesn't always work. It as a, you know, because there's like always you like girls be like, yeah, I put my headphones in so no one talks to me, but like guys always come up and talk to me. Girls, don't worry. Guys still come up and talk to me too when I have my earphones on it. And it's like, leave me the fuck alone.

SPEAKER_05 12:37

So Jesse knows exactly how you're talking about it.

SPEAKER_03 12:39

Except instead of trying to hit on me, they're usually like because when I was at Murphisboro, it people would try to sell me like little books and stuff all the time. What? Yeah, just like hey. No, it would just be like, I got like some Buddha books one time, there's some Christian books one time.

SPEAKER_00 12:54

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:54

Um, there was one that I was like, well, this is a cult and I don't know what this religion is, so uh please leave me alone. They always commented on my white headphones that cost it that cost$15. They always said, Wow, those look like uh expensive headphones. I'll always be like, no, and then I'd walk away. Well done. Well done. Um but sometimes like it like because usually if people approach me nicely, I get sucked in. I'm like, shit, now I'm gonna listen to their whole speech. And it's like, because now I feel like we're too far in a conversation to leave. I've been to Chattanooga once. It's like nature reserve people, and they got us for like 10 to 15 minutes. And we bought a calendar. Damn. And then we immediately canceled when we got back home. Never get anything from them again.

SPEAKER_05 13:46

Although I feel like a nature reserve, that's just a little that's very low bar.

SPEAKER_03 13:51

I think they're all scams. So anybody that sells stuff on the street, I think they're all scams, and someone's getting really rich off this shit while they have people shove their stuff in people.

SPEAKER_05 14:00

Everything is a pyramid scheme. Don't trust anybody. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 14:03

Even if it's helping people that's really nature. Yeah. Um, do you have a favorite movie that's a coming of age story? Hmm. Mine's probably Step Brothers. You know, you're coming of age, like 50. That one's fucking awesome. I think like, probably like one of the most pivotal ones, um, Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Yeah, I'm like, when I think of it, when I think of coming age stories, for some reason, even though I don't haven't seen that one like a billion times, it's just like the my immediate go-to. Or like Daisy and Confused, one of them, too.

SPEAKER_05 14:34

Days and Confused was one of my favorites growing up.

SPEAKER_03 14:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 14:37

Yeah. That's a great one. I fucking love that.

SPEAKER_03 14:40

We should do that one too. I do, I definitely want to. Um we just need to like just like start writing down the movies we say, so I don't have to spend 30 minutes like, is this on something? Is this on Well God, I gotta look through Netflix for Jason Gutierrez. Um So has a book or a movie or just like a piece of art ever made you want to change your life? Like it does uh old Colin Sean Colin hangs here.

SPEAKER_01 15:08

Not um not necessarily. I don't think uh I don't think so. I don't just drive.

SPEAKER_03 15:16

Nice. Yeah, I was like, I definitely have to make movies. And you know what? It it didn't do anything. Yeah. That's pretty much it. Because I was like, I was like, whoa shit, this movie fucking rolls.

SPEAKER_05 15:29

It's a lot of theaters. Maybe it's my own uh self like disintegration or something. I just never I never thought that I could do anything that these people do.

SPEAKER_01 15:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 15:44

You know what I mean? Yeah, I never thought that I could ever make something good.

Trivia, Bits, And Wild Facts

SPEAKER_03 15:50

I get that. Uh especially because it's kind of like an artistic form. But I mean, even like if you saw something in a movie where it's just like, wow, this person did this, I feel like I could do that type of thing. Yeah, I don't think I've ever had that revelation. Me neither. I guess it's because life is in movies, huh? All right. We're gonna get into some facts. So before Lance, Jack Black, jumps into the pool to save Sean, one of my favorite scenes. I love a good, I'm sad, I walk, and then I just either fall into something or fall down. Uh, this is one of my because it's this is a great gif, right? And then the other great gif is um Michael Sarah in Arrested Development, where he just like walks in, drops his bag, and just falls straight on the ground on his face.

SPEAKER_05 16:34

That is one of my favorite shows.

SPEAKER_03 16:36

It's just like one of like just it's just such a funny thing to put on screen. Just to be like, I'm this upset that I fall flat on something. It's so funny in movies. Um, but so Jack Black takes off his socks and he's gonna run on the table. It wasn't in the script, but Jack, but it was an idea of Jack Black's wardrobe assistant, and they did it. It's it's like it just it's that one little cherry on top where it's like, why are you taking off your fucking socks like you're wearing shoes? Oh man. He's so funny, and how he is so athletically chaotic.

SPEAKER_05 17:20

Yeah, his body is just not.

SPEAKER_03 17:22

It's it doesn't look like it should be able to do it, and it does, and it does it. Yeah, he's so small and uh round and spry. Oh, I love that man. He better never die. Chuck Norris died today, goddamn it. Are you fucking serious? Yeah, you didn't hear about this? No. Yeah, well, I guess all the jokes about him. Uh well, I don't know, but I guess we're a giant like bear? I guess we didn't make a joke about it. Is the one thing we nobody joked about. I got him, I guess.

SPEAKER_05 17:53

I feel like the only way he could die is if another planet crashed into ours. I told I told Natalie, I was like, damn.

SPEAKER_03 17:59

Um we made all those jokes.

SPEAKER_05 18:00

Nobody has a chance now.

SPEAKER_03 18:01

He made all those all those jokes that like the only thing scared of death or the only thing death is scared of is Chuck Norris.

SPEAKER_05 18:08

It's like, I guess we were wrong. And like when I went uh when I joined the army, all like I would say 90% of all the like uh what do you call them? The um the chants you do when you're marching, the cadences.

SPEAKER_01 18:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 18:23

They were about Chuck Norris. Really? About how whenever he does push-ups, he pushes the earth down. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:32

But there were so many. Yeah. God. Do you know who did not like Chuck Norris jokes?

unknown 18:38

No.

SPEAKER_03 18:39

After like the first like four times of hearing them? Me. Yeah. Just kidding. I liked well, it was just like it there was a point though in high school where it was like, shut the fuck up about Chuck Norris, guys. I get what you mean. Y'all don't even watch Chuck Norris. I I watched Walker Texas Ranger, god dang it.

SPEAKER_05 18:58

I saw him jump with two grenades into an explosion.

SPEAKER_03 19:02

Because it I it would just be like, I because people would talk about it, oh, y'all like because you know, I like to watch a lot of really shitty action movies growing up because we had them all like videoed on VHS tapes, and it'd be like, Y'all, y'all like Delta Force? And they're like, What? And I'm like, Y'all don't even know who you're talking about at this point. You've never seen any of his movies.

SPEAKER_05 19:19

I really I was kind of on the on the fence with Chuck Norris. I loved hearing the jokes, but I would never share them. I just I thought they were too lame to share.

SPEAKER_03 19:29

Yeah. Well, that's the thing, because everybody was saying the same jokes over and over. Yeah. And it was like, yeah, guys. I'm also being, I liked them for a while and then they got really old. But then being a little rude.

SPEAKER_05 19:40

But then Dodge walked everyone out, and you're like, oh, you know.

SPEAKER_03 19:44

Fuck it, Chuck Norris. Man, it's been a tough year though, of losing people. Like actors in terms of like actors that like, hey, they actually all seemed all right.

SPEAKER_05 19:53

Yeah, no, Catherine, God.

SPEAKER_03 19:55

It's just one of those things we're like, you know, we're becoming middle-aged. I mean, we are middle-aged. And so now everybody that was middle-aged when we were watching them on TV, they're all above middle age. They're all olders, and it's just like, but somehow, Clint Eastwood, he said, God damn it, not the dude.

SPEAKER_01 20:15

He cannot be killed.

SPEAKER_03 20:17

Death came to me and I sent him to Chuck Norris' door. He's so powerful. So Jack Black, um is screenwriter Mike White's next door neighbor. Oh, sorry, guys.

SPEAKER_05 20:32

I'm sorry. I was like, maybe Death went to Chuck Norris or it went to him first, to Clint Eastwood, and then he was like, fuck. I'm just up next.

SPEAKER_06 20:44

This guy's scary.

SPEAKER_03 20:47

You're gonna have to live here forever. Damn. All right. You have to make 100 more movies. But I have a feeling he's I feel like Chuck Norris, or not Chuck Norris, uh Clint Eastwood. I feel like he's done because he was doing like two movies a year at some point in his 90s, and now he's no longer doing it. Yeah, I'm sure. Now it's Ridley Scott at this point.

SPEAKER_05 21:05

Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_03 21:06

Yeah. All right. Um, I actually already said the fact I was gonna say. So in a scene where the dog bites uh Schuler Fisk's face, um, the dog really did bite her nose. And when when I saw that, I was like, that was a legit bite on the nose. And then I was like, I found the fact, and I was like, hell yeah. Her reaction, her reaction and the scene were kept in the movie. She was not upset and said the dog, Andy, had been having long days and was being picked up all day long. So she understood. He also had a crippling drug addiction. Whoa. No, I'm joking out of that. But it's just like it's like you you can't be too mad at Andy.

SPEAKER_02 21:41

He's had long days, he's been picked up, he's been on, he hasn't had cocaine for two hours.

SPEAKER_05 21:47

You know how dogs are these days. I know. I see that whenever my youngest, like, she aggressively kisses our dog and the dog growls. I'm like, hey, watch the fuck out.

SPEAKER_03 21:58

I know it's like I don't I don't ever trust um being around dog's faces very close. Like even um yeah it's just like I don't trust dogs. I don't like at any I mean they're just the I mean they came from wolves, they're gonna kill us. Yeah. Like with a cat, as long as they don't go incomplete insane. Yeah, but they usually just like scratch you. Usually they'll like s they'll like grab onto you and you're like, hey, stop, and then they're like, then they just run away. It's like cat's away. But a dog, it's just like they bite, they bite hard, and then they'll probably stop. But it's like you gotta go to the doctor. Same with a cat. If a cat bites you, go to the doctor. California! You know that song? Yeah. That plays in the credits. There we go. That's by Phantom Planet. Um, Jason Schwartz is uh Schwartzman's in that. He's uh Asteroid City. Um all the Wes Anderson movies. That's him. That's awesome. Um is featured in the end credits. The song would go on to be the opening credits song of Orange County based television series, The OC. Colin Hanks also went on to guest star in an episode of The OC. Wow. I love that song though. Yeah, it is a good song. It's a good song. It's like I've never been in California, but I'm like tossing my hair in the wind, like California, that's where I am.

SPEAKER_05 23:18

Oh, I want to go. I was supposed to go this year, but we had to cancel.

SPEAKER_03 23:21

Yeah, I remember you told me that. That sucks. Yeah. So Jack Black's character gives a fake name to Ben Steelers. It's like the best joke ever. Firefighter Joe Johnson. The real Joe Johnson worked with director Jake Kasden's father, uh, Lawrence Kasden, on Star Wars and Indiana Jones, and directed the original Jumanji, which would later have two sequels directed by Jay Kasden. Although it's like, uh, what's your name? Uh Joe. Uh John? Your name's Joe Johnson. The way Ben Stiller says it is you're Joe Johnson? He's looks so way too serious to be a firefighter. I know. It's so like that's something that Ben Stiller's so good at. It's just like he can play it so straight down the middle, and it just makes it funnier. Um, John Lithgow and John Lithgow and Colin Hanks would both play villains on Dexter in seasons four and six. Yeah, he's a he kicks ass as a villain. Yeah, John Lithgow rules. He just kicks ass. Yeah, he really, he's one of our best actors. So good. When he goes, I go. Um, did you ever watch season six of Dexter? I'm not sure. That's I think that's the apocalypse one. It was fine. Season four is the last like holy shit, this show's good. Yeah. Season. I don't think I really ever kept track. I just remember watching it like that. We watched the whole original series and never went on to watch the other one, which we should since we have Paramount Plus with no ads. Nice. So that would make it easier to watch. Um so Colin Hanks, his father, Tom Hanks, appeared in Apollo 13. This disaster um made extensive use of an abort guidance system that allowed for manual course corrections that was invented by Judith Love Cohen, who was also Jack Black's mother. Are you fucking serious? The world, man. It's small. It's so small. It feels so big, but it's so small at the same time. Wow. Yeah. It's like I did not go to look up to make sure all that's a thing, but I can do that right now. I didn't verify. But in terms of what IMDB told me, it seemed legitimate. Um, but let me just make sure this is actually uh yeah, aerospace engineer. Wow, that's incredible. And she has an IMDB because um she should. Wow, yeah, that's Jack Black's mom. That's crazy. That's wild. Well, they've been on the red carpet together. And she's been on Who Wants to Be On a Millionaire as a Phone the Friend on an episode that Jack Black was on. Okay. Back to Orange County. That's so cool. I know. I was just like, I gotta put that shit in. That's gotta go in there. I didn't even know he had a mother. I thought he was just bored. I thought he just from a guitar pick that formed into a human being. Hell yeah, knock our brains out. What's your favorite Tenacious D song? Uh, I was always a fan of Wonderboy. Yeah. You know?

SPEAKER_06 26:28

Wonderboy.

SPEAKER_03 26:29

I'm not gonna lie, I think it might be bones. You know, a bunch inks, and it was one. It's like the first song. It's probably because it's like their first song that I heard on their album. And because it's the first song on it. The one note song. Yeah. Or like the I can I can sing one. The it's like, look, I have a way that you can sing longer than uh ever because you can just sing while inhaling. I'm not doing it. It's so good. If you just want to hear what they sound like, go listen to the first album tonight's deep. And then go watch the pick of destiny because it fucking rules. Master Exploder.

SPEAKER_05 27:12

Yeah, I haven't even seen the whole thing.

Fan Mail And Listener Prompt

SPEAKER_03 27:13

I've seen it. Really? So good. Ben Stiller's also in it. So we're gonna hop into the plot of Orange County. But before we do, we want you to think what is the point of Orange County? And if you have any god dang idea what the point is, leave us some fan mail. Or if you're on YouTube, just type it in there. If you want to leave the fan mail, it's a link in the description. And then at the end of the description, there's our email. We recommend mailbag at gmail.com. Thank you. And now on to the plot. Man. I thought I was feeling better than it was. And now all this talking has exhausted me. So let's continue the talking. Let me go through a whole plot of a movie. I just did uh T2 sound uh T2's uh main theme song with my hair clearing in my throat, if anybody caught that.

SPEAKER_05 28:11

Uh you know what's gross are fucking uh tonsil stones. My son has had tonsil stones and they're just they're just gross. And when he coughs them up, he shows them to us. I'm like, no man, I don't want to see that. I don't know what tonsil stones are. They're gross. It's like little calcified pieces that just show up in your tonsils, and he needs to have his tonsils removed.

SPEAKER_03 28:38

Ooh, fun. I've never had my tonsils removed.

SPEAKER_05 28:41

I did.

SPEAKER_03 28:42

Did you? It was the best thing ever happened to me. Like my doctor, every time I saw him, he's like, God dang it, you got the best tonsils I've ever seen. Those things so good. Those things that gotta stay in there. I don't really know what tonsils are, so let's move on. Yeah. Fair enough. I don't either. I don't have them anymore. It's like, it's something that like everybody's always like, Yeah, you know, I had my tonsils removed. I'm like, oh, I'm never gonna look this up and I'm never gonna ask what tonsils are. Apparently mine were gross, and I asked if I could have them, and they said no. They said no, we already ate them.

SPEAKER_05 29:17

Well done, doctors got me again. Yeah, got me again.

Plot Setup And Stanford Dream

SPEAKER_03 29:22

Um so, Orange County. Sean Brumter is an A student and a class president at Vista Del Mar High School in Orange County, California. Has always been his desire to go to Stanford. He lives in a nice house with his mom, Cindy, who married a second time. And although Bob has money, he's now in a wheelchair and heavy heavily medicated, so he can hardly function. His loser brother Lance also lives with him. And now I'm not gonna talk like this anymore. So at the start of the movie, Sean Bromner is narrating. He's actually reading the letter is sending along with his book Orange County to Stanford, Professor Marcus Skinner, who wrote the book Straight Jacket, which Sean found on the beach and read many times. It changed his life and inspired him to become a writer. Or he was just a typical surfer bro and much cooler. His friend died eating foam in a massive wipeout, surfing a tsunami. Yeah, that was awesome. We're gonna go surf a tsunami. Goes out there. Oh, Jos. I just loved like the eulogy. Uh he died the way he wanted to, eating foam in a massive wipeout.

SPEAKER_05 30:26

That is the best eulogy you could ever, I think you could ever have. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:30

It's just like, man, too bad he wouldn't hear it. Um but yeah, he seemed like real like I love that whenever he was like his idea of you know, like being straight laced and like now I gotta be serious and go to college, is to make my hair worse. Because he had like messy hair, but I was like, that actually works better than what you got on now with this bowl cut. Yeah, you just stopped caring.

SPEAKER_00 30:54

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:56

Um, so at the start of the movie, Sean uh oh, already said all that. In some flashbacks, we meet some of the main characters like Arlo and Chad, who are bummed Sean sold his surfboard to write. Lance, who is constantly recovering from the night before, his overly positive girlfriend, or in other words, supportive. Yeah, I love her. His illiterate English teacher. I didn't read it all, but that's Mike White. That is Mike White. That's okay. Yeah. All right. Um he's always like, and you probably notice him from uh School of Rock, which maybe I'll watch that. We should do that on the podcast. We should do that. Love that movie.

SPEAKER_05 31:33

The song that all the kids sing is he tells the the the little girl to listen to like uh delicious.

SPEAKER_03 31:49

I will not, because I hold the power. I only delete when I mess up. Just kidding. If you ever say anything weird, I do I do get rid of it. That one. Oh, Pink Floyd. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I can't remember the name of the song, but yeah. That was actually pretty good, Jason. I actually wasn't sure. I love the album. You were a woman in here from Pink Floyd or well, not from Pink Floyd, but on the album, I don't know. Um, but also just whenever he does immigrant song in the band, it's just like Jack Black, ladies and gentlemen. Uh and then you can listen to our other podcast. It's the uh We JO to Jack Black. And it's just where we talk about Jack Black while JO ing. And JO ing means jerking off if you didn't know. Sorry, Mom. So a counselor tells him that he is a shoe-in to go to uh Berkeley. Oh, I mean Stanford, and that he shouldn't apply to any other schools, and he believes her. Yeah. I mean, at least apply to a community college, which you don't have to, you can just go. He just has so much hope in the adults in his life. And they've given him no reason to. They've all been I know you know something that is really great about this movie is like, is like the selfishness of adults. Yeah. And like it's something you don't really I don't I didn't really realize that until I started becoming an adult. And I was like, we're all fucking selfish. And it's wild how little we care about like the youth or anything. Yeah, and I'm like, this all completely pans out because the older I get, the more selfish I get, and it's wild.

SPEAKER_05 33:32

You know, it kind of like puts evolution on its ear a little bit, like you're supposed to be looking out for your youngins.

SPEAKER_03 33:39

We have too much technology, we have too much stuff. Yeah, it's too easy to just. Everybody's still having kids. Damn, we're never gonna retire. We won't. That's fun. So after the audience sees Sean find the book that changes his life, Sean sends the letter. Lance lying on the floor gets bumped by Sean opening the door. Yeah, Sean to provide him with some urine so he'll pass his test required for his parole officer. I haven't. I'm too scared to get ever get in trouble. Um, and then on that morning, Lupe, the maid, is fed up with being bossed around by Sean's mom, who does little other than drink, and she decides to quit. Sean persuades her to stay speaking Spanish uh so his mom won't understand. He tells her he will double her salary. He asks his mom. He asks his mom uh to tell him if the the let to tell him when the letter from Stanford comes in and she starts to cry. And then Bob needs his pills. Yeah. Bob always needs his pills.

SPEAKER_04 34:38

And she's like, Did you give Bob a I'm not a nurse?

SPEAKER_03 34:41

Yeah, like take some responsibility, you lady. When she doesn't want to be, which we'll find out a little later why she doesn't like her life, but and then at the same time, it's like I don't think he'd been happy either way. It's like you're the type of person that would just always kind of be miserable. Except, well, we'll get to it. We'll talk about it later. Everything I just said, completely wrong. So um, so we've see that time was past because it's uh it's the anniversary of Lonnie's death, and Sean and his friends want to do something special. At school, Sean's like blow something up. Yeah, like a skateboard, his not skateboard, surfboard. Surfboard. And at school, Sean's girlfriend, Ashley, tells Principal Herbert about Chevy. Chevy I was shocked. I do not forgot he was in here. A classic bad person, but love to see him on the television screen. He's still a bad person in the movie. Yeah, that's why he's so good at it and funny at it. Um uh that so he tells Ashley tells the principal that she wants to help save animals affected by environmental disaster. Principal says the principal says, Yeah, we'll save these seagulls, but after this, all animal dies. That's the last time we're doing this.

SPEAKER_05 35:59

I'm tired of saving seagulls. After this, every animal's gonna suffer a horrible death. It's so good.

SPEAKER_03 36:06

And then the uh principal asks for someone to speak at graduation. Um Sean says Tony Morrison, and he's like, nah, dog. And then it's like, hey, uh, you know somebody that knows Britney Spears, right? And then he's like best friends. And then like the song kind of comes in a little bit, and then he's like, ooh. Hell yeah. Uh wow. So good. And that's all the rest you see, that's all you see with Chappie Chase for the movie. Oh well done.

SPEAKER_05 36:32

I always like Britney Spears.

SPEAKER_03 36:34

Yeah, Britney Spears was wheels.

SPEAKER_05 36:36

She she got she had a lot of bad shit happen to her.

SPEAKER_03 36:40

Yeah, she made the mistake of uh becoming famous in the wrong era. Yeah. She became famous when everybody was just trying to get pictures up her skirt. Yeah. And it drove her insane. And then her uh, you know, everybody in her life kind of just took advantage of her. Like her totally cool boyfriend. And dad and parents and everything.

SPEAKER_05 36:59

And uh she's she's had a rough go.

SPEAKER_03 37:02

Yeah, and then uh tried to shave her head so that you know people would like maybe leave her alone.

SPEAKER_05 37:07

And then that one YouTuber came out with a pretty load.

SPEAKER_03 37:12

And you know what? We made fun of him, and he was right. That's the sad part, right? Even though I still think she she like she's dancing with knives now though. And it's just like she's dancing with knives? Yeah, have you not seen her Instagram videos? She'll be like dancing with knives. No, she does still seem like a little like uh out of it.

SPEAKER_05 37:31

I thought she was like retreated into a cave to become a hermit. Yeah, and she makes Instagram pictures.

SPEAKER_03 37:36

Oh, that's yeah, and um, she also made the mistake by driving in a very busy city where paparazzi are constantly trying to take pictures of you and you know, driving with your kid on your lap in the front seat. You can't have kids. Something in the country happens. All right. I'm not saying that might have happened to me, but it might have happened to me. I might have been really young driving on a road. Yeah. Um that's just how we do it here in Tennessee, all right? You keep your good city living in the city. What were we talking about? I don't even remember. In English class, Mr. Burke, played by Mike White, announces that he will be studying, they will be studying Romeo and Juliet. Lonnie's girlfriend and shallow cheerleader, Tanya, just can't. She's still grieving.

SPEAKER_05 38:24

Then class He's like, You dated her for two weeks.

SPEAKER_03 38:29

Then class is interrupted by a female student telling Tanya she got into Stanford, and then uh all of a sudden she's no longer depressed. All of a sudden she's jumping in slow motion. The way they use slow motion is uh so satisfying. And they always like do it to pinpoint, like when it's just like what the fuck is happening, yeah type of situations where it's just like I gotta get away from these people, these people are all fake and everything. Like, how? How? Uh but Mr. Burke. Now, when I say Romeo and Juliet, who comes to mind? Dana, Claire Danes? Mr. Burke, that's right, Claire Danes, who else? Chad, Leonardo DiCaprio? Mr. Burke, right? Who else? Well, you know someone else who was involved in that movie, who in some ways is as famous as Leonardo DiCaprio, and his name is William Shakespeare. And some great movies have been made based on his place. Hamlet, West Side Story, The Talented Mr. Ripley.

SPEAKER_05 39:21

I had no idea the talented Mr. Ripley was uh based on a Shakespeare movie. I don't know if it is. I don't know either.

SPEAKER_03 39:26

Uh Waterworld, Gladiator, Chocolat. I think it becomes a joke that none of these are based on William Shakespeare. I don't know if that I don't think so. I did like the talented Mr. Ripley. Oh, that maybe fucking rips. Are you talking about the movie or the show? Or have you watched Black Rag? What's the show? Yeah, it's like all in black and white. It has the hot preacher from Fleabag. No. That's still that's you've never watched Fleabag? They're like six episodes each. You and your wife would love it. It's hilarious. Seriously. Go home now and watch it where I'm gonna keep recording until you come back. They're like 30-minute episodes too, and no ads, so it's like really fast. That's cool.

SPEAKER_05 40:07

I lost a copy of The Talented Mr. Ripley, uh VHS in a pool game. Because that was the that was the ante.

SPEAKER_03 40:16

Um it is uh inspired by it. So I don't know if that means it's a direct thing, but it's inspired. But isn't everything technically kind of inspired by William Shakespeare? I don't know. Probably. Um uh and we're gonna continue. So uh Sean drops everything and calls Lance on his cell phone. Sean tells Lance to check the mail, and Sean rushes home to find a pin envelope. He calls him, he's like, hey, this is Sean. It's like, Sean, pick up the phone. No, this is Sean. He's watching Spongebob. Yeah, he's watching with Bob. And the way he laughs. Oh, he's so good, dude. Um, so he gets home, he like rushes home, and Lance is laughing at SpongeBob. Uh, trying to find the letter, he drops a vase on Bob.

SPEAKER_04 41:08

Poor Bob.

SPEAKER_03 41:10

Uh he then reads the letter and he didn't get in. I didn't get in.

SPEAKER_00 41:15

Oh god.

SPEAKER_03 41:16

Uh Lance tells him not to worry because he also didn't get in college. Look at the comedy turned out. And then uh his mom comes in, it's like, did something so fucking happy. Is something happen to Bob? Did something break? And then he tells her, like, I didn't get into Stanford. And she's like, Oh yeah, I'm so sorry, like laughing so happily.

SPEAKER_05 41:39

It's the only like stable thing in her life.

SPEAKER_03 41:42

Yeah, it's like terrible. Well, it's like, yeah, I'm sure she hates Lance, doesn't like Bob, just wants to be porked by a tennis uh coach. That's the dream. Yeah. So having been rejected by the one school you apply to, Sean goes to the guidance counselor, Ms. Cobb, and demands to know what happened. Ms. Cobb doesn't even remember that she talked to him or that he's even a student. And he's a student by the president.

SPEAKER_05 42:06

Are you a student in here? It doesn't apply to any other schools, not even a safety one.

SPEAKER_03 42:12

Yeah. It's like, you told me not to. You said she win. And then she he pulls up the transcript on her transcript on her computer and sees Sean has a 2.5 GPA and a 970 SAT score. Sean knows this is wrong and looks looks at the transcript and it's Shane Bernard.

SPEAKER_05 42:31

He's just phoning it in. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 42:33

God damn. And then meanwhile, we cut to a different Shane. He announces to his friends that he applied to Stanford as a joke and actually got in. Sean blames Mrs. Cobb for sending the wrong transcripts and like goes to like shaker essentially, and then he knees him in the balls. She runs out, 911!

SPEAKER_00 42:51

911!

SPEAKER_03 42:56

Oh, I mean, it's one of two, it's two things here. She's a terrible guidance counselor. Of course. He should not have only applied to one school.

SPEAKER_05 43:06

No, yeah, he shouldn't have listened to never listen to adults. Yeah, do not.

SPEAKER_03 43:09

Especially guidance counselors. Because you know how many people they see in a day?

SPEAKER_05 43:13

A lot. You know how much they care?

SPEAKER_03 43:15

A little. You know how much they get paid? Very little less than what they care. Less than enough. They used to care more, and then their paychecks never got bigger. Nope. Um, so and then Sean leaves the building walking right through a group of cheerleaders dancing to Butterfly by Crazy Town. And he's just like, I gotta get the fuck out of here, dude.

SPEAKER_05 43:37

That one girl was like, I gotta, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:39

She's like, ugh.

SPEAKER_05 43:42

His little balls hurt. Yeah. Oh, yeah, because he's got a shit. Yeah, he does get hit in that.

SPEAKER_03 43:46

Like Ashley comes up, it's like, What's wrong? He's like, I gotta go to my dad. So he goes to his dad. Sean's father, Bud, is very rich and he could donate money to Stanford and get Sean in. He and Ashley drive to Bud's huge mansion on the Pacific Coast highway where toddler Jake is misbehaving and his mom, Krista, played by Leslie Fucking man, babies.

SPEAKER_05 44:05

She's awesome.

SPEAKER_03 44:06

She's in a billion movies. She's almost never the lead character, but she's the best part of half those movies.

SPEAKER_05 44:12

Yeah, love Leslie, man. I love that his he's like, What's the what are you sucking on there?

SPEAKER_04 44:18

My pooty.

SPEAKER_05 44:18

My pooty.

SPEAKER_03 44:24

So Krista comes in wearing a bikini. She can't control him, so he asks Rosa to. Krista invites Sean in, but his father is yelling at someone on the phone. When Sean talks to Bud, Bud indicates that he won't do anything to help because Sean is throwing away his life. Bud says even though he fears his health isn't good and he may not have much time left, he will devote all his energy to keep keeping his business going so he can leave it to Sean. Sean tells him that he doesn't want his money and that his father has only ever did anything for himself. And then in the background, Chris is getting like rubbed down by the gardener. Yeah. So she's like rubbing he's got like the leaf blower. And she's putting her feet on it, like sexually like flirting with the leaf blower.

SPEAKER_05 45:07

It's like, yes. Even when he came out to the pool and she's like, You filled out. Yeah. Your arms and your chest.

SPEAKER_03 45:16

Yeah. It's like it's essentially the character from uh Big Lebowski that uh what's her name plays? I can't remember her name.

SPEAKER_05 45:25

I'll suck her dick for$10,000. Uh okay. I'll just gotta find the ATM.

SPEAKER_03 45:33

Oh, I was thinking you said it the other way around. I'm about to so Ashley, who waited in the car, rescues a dog which is about to get run over, and then when Sean gets back in the car, it's just ripping up his car. I'd be like, what the hell are you doing? I know. I love how he's just like he's like, well, my son. Yeah. At least like she's a good person. And she's smart. Yeah. Unlike the rest of the cast. She really is like the only one that I feel like is the smart one in the movie. She really is. Completely. Other than like the professor guy later.

SPEAKER_05 46:05

Oh, Mr. Skinner.

SPEAKER_03 46:06

Yeah. So Ashley admits she wants Sean to go to Orange County University with her. She is going to study marine biology there, and she is afraid they won't be able to stay together otherwise.

SPEAKER_05 46:16

She prayed against his prayer. Yeah. She canceled it out. Yeah. It's like, why would you do it?

SPEAKER_03 46:21

It's like, well, I didn't think it would happen.

SPEAKER_05 46:22

I didn't think it would work.

SPEAKER_03 46:27

So, but there is another way for Sean to get into college. Tanya's grandfather, Arthur Gantner, is an official there. Ashley tells Tanya what she knows about her. The audience sees flashbacks of Tanya in bed with a guy at a Halloween party. It's like someone's little brother. Yeah. And a couple other incidents. She is a mess. Including one at Lonnie's funeral where she makes out with uh the two friends of Lonnie's. And then one where it's at prom night and she makes out with a female janitor. Yes. She's like, okay, that one dude.

SPEAKER_05 46:58

I love how screwed up she is.

The Home Visit Disaster

SPEAKER_03 47:00

It's amazing. It's like the classic popular girl that just can't control. She's a fucking train wreck and I love it. Yeah, she's always like drunk and making out with everybody. So soon, Sean has just minutes to prepare for a home visit from Mr. and Mrs. Gantner.

SPEAKER_05 47:15

The outfit his mom has to wear. No drunken outbursts. She's like, okay. Okay. Let's change into something normal.

SPEAKER_03 47:26

Sean has to get his mother to change into clothes that make her look presentable and not act like a total lunacy tick, which she is.

SPEAKER_05 47:33

Bad chance.

SPEAKER_03 47:34

Uh she is hurt and tells him she could have been with a hot tennis instructor and said she had sex with Bob four times. Sean's like, what are you talking about? It's like, I did it for money. It's like, oh, I didn't ask you to do that. Sean says both her and his father have money and they're both miserable, which makes her perk up. She's like, he's miserable.

SPEAKER_05 47:54

Yeah. He's just like, money can't buy happiness, happiness. She's like, yes, it can. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 47:58

It's like you're both miserable. It's like, huh? What? Um, she asks for some alcohol to calm down. He tells Lance to stay hidden, who's just like in his underwear only. I love Lance so much. And I love the line. It's like, because he's kind of worried about um, it's like, because Ashley's like, yeah, um, they're gonna be at your house in 15 uh at a certain time. He's like, she's like, is that a problem? It's like, yeah, do you know who lives at my house? The worst people on the planet. That is true. So the Gantners arrive, and Sean welcomes in and tells them how much he wants to go to Stanford and everything Mr. Gantner needs to know in order to accept him. Sean's mom comes in drinking and volunteering way too much information, including that Bud left her for a 20-year-old, and he tells how she ended up with Bob. She tells the whole story. And then, like, eventually, like Sean's just like, geez. Puts his head down, like, God, dang it.

SPEAKER_06 48:56

Um he realizes a small glass beside Mr.

SPEAKER_03 49:03

Ganser. Oh, and then um, oh yeah, um, Arlo and Chad come to the door wanting Sean to come surf and announces they heard he tried to kill Miss Cog. They get mad that he doesn't want to go serve on Lonnie um's death diversary. So they say they're gonna go pick each other's butt. And then one guy's like naked, and the other guys, huh?

SPEAKER_04 49:27

They just don't have a clue.

SPEAKER_03 49:29

He's like, oh god. It's a perfect catastrophe. Yeah, then Lance comes in wearing only underpants and socks and asks where his urine sample is, which Ms. Gantber is about to drink.

SPEAKER_05 49:40

I love how when he walks in, he's like, Don't you see we have guests? And he just pops his underwear like string, and like he's like, Oh, oh hey. He's so free. Yeah, he's so to to have that level of freedom. Is that something like your dad did just walk around in Taddy Whites? Uh only at night. Yeah. Like I was one night I showed up late at night and he wasn't expecting me because we uh you know we had shared custody. Yeah. And uh I was able to drive, showed up at his house at like nine o'clock one night. He comes to the door, whitey tidies with a baseball bat. Yeah. And I was like, You need to get some sun, man.

SPEAKER_03 50:21

That's like that's just like something that like I feel like at least in like my age group, like everybody's dad just walked around in t tidy whiteys, like just throughout the house, even like all the kids are home. It's just like isn't that no weird? Is that like I mean, I guess you're just comfortable. I don't have kids, so I don't know. Is that something like you just walk around in tidy whities? Sometimes. I guess we we wear boxers now, so it's different.

SPEAKER_05 50:47

Whenever when when you expect people to be in bed, like the kids, and you kind of trust them to be like doing what they're supposed to do it, then you then you kind of have the freedom to do it. Yeah. But then they always, always come out and be like, what are you doing, dad? Oh, I pay for this house. You go back to bed, I'm walking around nowhere. I don't like to worry about it, go to bed.

SPEAKER_03 51:10

I think I just I think I just uh I think I just figured it out, actually, by just saying that. I think I actually understand why now. So yeah, Mrs. Gandor's about to drink it and he's like just spills it everywhere. And then Bob needs his drugs. He's out there yelling, I need my pills. He's got he's got like a bloody bandage on the top of his head. Um and then somehow Lance, whose drugs are kept kept in aspirin and Tylenol bottles, got his drug drugs and Bob's drugs mixed up and sold Bob's drugs. No, he sold his pain pills. Yeah, the rescue dog also starts causing trouble. Um the Ganders have had enough and leave. And as Sean is trying to change their minds, Bob in his wheelchair rolls down the stairs and bumps the car. Mr. Gantner says, You will never get into Stanford. Watch your fingers. Yeah, such a good little line. Watch your fingers. Elder. It's like I've never seen such elder abuse before. He's like, No, I love Bob. I love Bob. He's just rolling down the hill. If I was Sean, I would not have walked back in my house. I'd have been like, someone get Bob, and I would just walk down the street, and then I'll come home when I'm ready to come home. Be like, Bob, you got to feed me.

SPEAKER_05 52:24

Well, no one's gonna take care of Bob.

SPEAKER_03 52:27

You're gone. He's a loop, he's not home. Um, so Sean down on his luck, and maybe my favorite part just walks into the pool face first. Uh Lance jumps in to save him. I'm gonna save him. Just jumps in splashing around everywhere. Um, he does. He does. He's just a fuck up. It's just a classic fuck up. I love it so much. At least it seems like he's a fun fuck up and not like a really is. Not like a, you know, usually when people are on pills a lot, they're just like, uh Yeah. And they steal and they yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 53:02

I mean, I guess he did. He probably does. He seems like he sells changes and makes enough money. He did steal from Bob. He sold his bank.

The Stanford Road Trip Chaos

SPEAKER_03 53:08

But he just stole, he sold the wrong ones because he keeps them in different bottles. He keeps them in random bottles. Like, ah, Lance is who did the Tylenol murders. He's like, ooh, I kept my cyanide in the wrong bill. Actually, he took that one to the store. So Lance says Sean should just go to Stanford and pretend to be a student, and then Lance decides to drive him there and afford Bronco in only three hours. Hell yeah. Driving as fast as he can. Ashley comes along. Lance is not that good of a driver and constantly getting distracted because of talking about making shirts in Hawaii. It's like, yeah, I just make little shirts like I don't know. It's so funny. I can't remember what it was saying. I love it. Uh and then I was hitting several cars. By the time the gang arrive at Stanford, it is long past dark, but Mona, the receptionist, is still in the emissions building. Amazingly, Sean thinks he can ask to see the Dean of Emissions. Mona explains that it's it is late and won't even give them the information allowing them to talk at the talk to the dean at his home, which is how is she after they leave, Lance sneaks in or crashes it. That was awesome. He's so good at just being like just like that slapstick comedy. Um while Sean and Ashley figure out that they can find the dean's address in, you know, like a phone book or information. Mona hears the crash and walks in. Lance starts flirting with her. She Oh man, it's beautiful. She asks, um, does he want her to call security? And he asks, Do you want me to get naked and start the revolution? And then he takes off his pants. Man, it just seemed like in 2000s, it's just so much easier to have sex. You just be like, hey girl. I just I think that he knows even though I have the worst tidy white's on the history of the planet, I'm gonna pull him down.

SPEAKER_05 54:52

You're gonna be like, No, he's got the horrible cut like cut-off sleeves sweatshirt. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 54:59

It's like the grossest you maybe.

SPEAKER_05 55:01

I came here to save you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:05

Uh and then we go to Dean Durkett's teenage uh Dean Durkitt's house. Uh his teenage daughters are arguing while his wife is busy packing for vacation. Sean finally persuades Dean Ducott to look at his transcript that Sean has to run out to his car to get. While Ashley starts noticing some pills in her, uh the jacket pocket of the jacket that he lent her? The chaos jacket. Wherever that jacket goes, bad things happen. I love it. Um, and then while gone, Ashley has all of Lance's drugs, not knowing that they aren't pain meds, the dean asks for some and takes multiple pills. She's like, Yeah, just take them all. Yeah, take two or three or four. And it's like, yeah. Um, then um we see that Bud comes over to Cindy's house, uh, the father and the wife, uh, mother uh house and admits he misses her and has sometimes driven to her house hoping that they would get back together. And they end up in bed.

SPEAKER_05 56:03

No, that was a really sweet moment. It was it's like two good actors just acting. It's like, oh shit, this is great. The the moment where he's like, She's not a good mother like you.

SPEAKER_03 56:12

Yeah, and then her reaction to it is like her terrible hair. Do you want to have a beer?

SPEAKER_05 56:22

Because they're both just a fucking mess.

SPEAKER_03 56:24

Yeah. And the And it's like such a real thing for like divorced parents, and especially if there's still a little bit of love to them, but they just can't make it work. And like, of course, the movies are able to make it work eventually. It's easy, but in real life, it doesn't ever seem to work out that way. So the dean is impressed with Sean's transcript, but says it's too late. But after the dean leaves for a brief period, he comes back fucked up and feeling good.

SPEAKER_05 56:50

He just took a bunch of uh ecstasy, yeah. That's what I'm assuming.

SPEAKER_03 56:54

He tells Sean that he really likes him, and then he says, Sean, we're the same height. That is neat. That's something my wife will just randomly say. It's great. She loves this movie because this movie is so good. It slaps ass. I know. We're gonna watch it again tonight because she wants to watch it. Got it for her for her birthday. She didn't watch it yet. That's awesome. So in his euphoric state, he states uh Sean. Oh, already said that. They tell him they should go to his office and put him in the system, and Dean starts kissing him. Meanwhile, Mona has also taken off her clothes. Uh Mona shows Lance the list of students who are accepted. Lance sets it on fire and throws it in the trash. You shouldn't put that in there. And they just stare at it.

SPEAKER_05 57:38

You know, I've only I've never taken a full ecstasy like pill. I took a half of a one one time and I fell. Well, yeah, kind of. I fell in love with a houseplant.

SPEAKER_01 57:49

Oh.

SPEAKER_05 57:50

Yeah. I petted it for hours. Did you make babies? Uh I haven't been able to do it.

SPEAKER_03 57:55

I've not been contacted with child support. That was a that was a drug that I've always liked, just wanted to kind of be like, what does it feel like?

SPEAKER_05 58:03

I want to do the whole, I want to do the full. I want to do the full pill. I want to go full pill. I want to go full pill.

SPEAKER_03 58:10

I'll laugh like that. Like sound like an idiot. Yeah. Where do you get drugs even? I don't even know anymore. I don't know, dude. I'm the one that's always like, when people have drugs, I'm like, how do you get it? I'm like, I just we recommend at mailbag.com.

SPEAKER_05 58:26

I just like have this guy.

SPEAKER_03 58:27

I'm like then I'm like, well, can I? They're like, no. I'm like, well, then how do they get make business? I don't understand. No one's ever like. It's probably because I'm such a goody good and I look like an arc. It's like, I can't help but always wear my hat backwards and I wear sunglasses. And then I wear a badge everywhere I go. Oh yeah, that's weird. You should probably stop doing that. So when the dean, who can barely remember who he is, arrives with Sean and Ashley, the building is in flames and Lance and Mona are leaving. Um, they kind of just like walk away half naked. And then a firefighter played by Ben Sealer interrogates Lance.

SPEAKER_05 59:05

While he is a firefighter.

SPEAKER_03 59:06

Yeah, and just keeps asking, like, what's your name? Joe. Uh uh John. Joe John. Like, your name's Joe John. No, uh Joe Johnston. Uh he claims that he knows nothing and was just walking around the neighborhood, the firefire, and soon came to see the fire.

SPEAKER_00 59:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 59:23

Firefighter pretty much is immediately like, all right, he did it. Then like uh Lance runs away. He's like, uh, we got a uh we gotta run. We got a smallish white male running. He's very unkempt. Um and then uh so yeah, um Lance, Sean, and Ashley leave before they get arrested. But first, Sean calls Lance a drugged out loser, and it's like, it's like he is, but he's a lovable. He's like, no, you're actually right. I can't really you should just yell at him at that point. You should yell at everybody at this point except for Ashley. So Sean and Ashley talk. Sean says it feels like the whole family has come together just to sabotage him. Ashley tells him he doesn't want to go to Stanford to study with Skinner, he just wants to run away. He wants to be free from everybody and go to Stanford to meet normal and better people. She says that he knows if he goes to Stanford that he will uh that they will break up. She tells him that if going to Stanford is the only way he could he can be who he wants to be, then she feels sorry for him. But I mean, it's his family is crazy. Right? They are they're completely ridiculous, and I would probably want out as well. I mean for sure. Like it's like he's like gonna have to leave her, but like he's gonna get out of that house. And Samper would be pretty much a guarantee for him to get opportunities that he won't have by going to other schools because it's gonna be like fuck Kip. Yeah, that's true. It on high school girls. But I mean it is it's like it's it's just like the one little point in the movie where it's just like you know, you know, they're making her say this, but it's just like uh I mean, if his family was just like half of what they were, I'd be like, yeah, dude, you're just trying to run away. You're just being a baby. Like, it's fine that you don't get a stamper. Just go to community college for a year and then transfer. Sure. But it's like the whole like I'm just like, uh, I think you should probably get out of there. They're gonna burn the house down while he's sleeping one day or something. No, but like I get it. They're just like, hey, you can be whatever you want to be no matter where you go. That's true. And it's like that's something that he's not realizing now. But which is also a real truth. Yeah. I mean, you're just being a rider, you can ride at home.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:32

For sure. Right. And you can um even if you can't go to Stanford and work with Mr. Skinner, you can still like collaborate.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:40

Yeah. And plus like the biggest lie we you're told as a kid is that to be successful you have to go to college. And let me just tell you this, guys.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:50

I watch a lot of I watch a lot of YouTubers that all dropped out of high school. Hell yeah. And they make a lot of money and own businesses now.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:57

So and I went to college.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:59

They're not doing backs. Yeah. Me and Jason went to college and we're still paying for it. And we work in a factory. Hell. And honestly, if we didn't have to spend money, maybe I could have made more YouTube videos and I could have had more time to do things that I wanted to do. You just gotta do stuff with your feet. I think you make it. Here's the thing, kids. Think about what you really want to do, and then see if you actually need college to do it. And then in the meantime, paint your toenails. Because you do need college to do something. Let's be real. Some things. Right. Like, I mean you need that piece of paper. Yeah. But if you have an opportunity, like for something that's gonna lead to something, and you don't have to go to college for it, take that some bitch. Um, also, don't take advice from us. So I don't know what the point of my conversation is.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:45

I like this. We should have an advice column.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:48

Yeah, we recommend advice from other people, not us.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:53

We know we we do we don't recommend doing what we did. No, we have to we have we recommend we give advice. Doesn't have to be good.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:02

Yeah, we're not professionals, we're just recommending you do what we tell you to do. People make millions like this. That's true.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:10

We could be that that's true.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:12

Anna Ferris had a um she had a podcast where it's just like essentially people call in and she has like celebrities on and they just give advice to people. Nice, and they're all comedians, so it was very funny. And so I was like, they actually have really good advice sometimes. That sounds hilarious. Yeah. Um, and she's so weird. Anna Ferris, she's so weird the way she talks. And this is like her comedy is so funny. So, Bud and Krista just kind of casually decide to get a divorce outside of the house. Hell yeah. It's like Krista pulls up, like, what are you doing? What are you doing, that robe? Um, I think we should get a divorce. Okay. Um, split custody of the kid? Yeah, that works. It's like you can have the house. Oh, really? Really? Cool. All right, and she speeds off. See you later. I'm going somewhere. It's like that might that's like the best joke ever. Just like two people who did not want to be together and like, you want to get a divorce? Okay, here, just take the house.

unknown 1:04:07

Okay.

Party Night And Meeting Skinner

SPEAKER_03 1:04:07

That house kicks ass. Yeah. If anything, she can just sell it. Yeah, she's set. Yeah. She can keep the gardener too. He did have a big hose. Yeah, he did. Oh, he knows how to blow too. I think that's definitely what he's doing. I don't know. So Sean and Ashley go their separate ways, and Sean meets Gretchen, who is reading Faulkner, and they have a conversation. Oh, you reading Faulkner? Like, yeah. Well, he's a good writer. I'm like, I mean, most people already Faulkner. Everybody knows what you Faulkner's like. Uh, and they have so Gretchen eventually invites him to a party at Alpha Road Chai House. Um, she introduces them some other girls, and then the whole group starts dancing to Butterfly by Crazy Town. Because they have to. And it's just like everybody's the same everywhere. Oh, because everybody's more complex than just being one type away. You can still be smart and also dance to butterfly.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:07

You can.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:08

It's the complexities of human nature.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:11

I once did the kid and play dance with a librarian.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:14

I don't know what that means. Okay. It's a kid and play dance.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:18

It's the one where you put your leg up and you jump and you like you lock like knees and you jump around. Anyway.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:28

She was like It's great.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:31

It's great. There was an actor that was hired for the wedding. Yeah. And he was dressed as uh the pirate from the Disney, the Caribbean.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:42

Is this a wait, are you at a wedding?

SPEAKER_05 1:05:45

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:46

And you're dancing with a teacher?

SPEAKER_05 1:05:48

She was a librarian.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:49

A librarian.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:50

Yeah, yeah. But the the the pre the guy that I guess the pastor was dressed as Jack Black. Not Jack Black, Jack White. No, no, the the pirate. Oh. He's in full pirate Jack Sparrow. Sparrow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was I got tipsy and I started talking to him about famous shipwrecks. I don't think he fucking knew anything about it.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:17

Hey, come on, idiot pirate. Get on me. I got I got some ships to talk to you about. Hey, have you ever seen Longbeard?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:25

How's he doing? I'm going back to the library and thank you very much.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:30

The reader goes like, hey, can someone get this drunk? I really think I'm an actual pirate. He keeps like shaking me and asking me where my treasure is. I think he might kill me later. Bro, like you just like you tell me things, and it's just like every sentence, I'm like, where's the story going, man? It's like at first it's like, yeah, it's dancing with a librarian. Then you're like, I'm at a wedding. I'm like, what are we talking about? I don't even remember anymore. I thought you were gonna be like something at school, and then you're like, oh, and by the way, the uh the preacher, the uh preacher, he was dressed in Jack's barrow.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:08

It was a beach wedding.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:10

It's like you just need to write down all your stories, and I'll see if I can like make a movie out of it or something.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:14

I don't I never remember them until I'm here with you.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:17

Good thing we have them here. Now they're recorded. I just feel like that'd be a great like uh like third act scene in like a movie or something. It was so something that'd be a new girl. Be like, um, what's his name? Uh oh my god. The guy, you want cookie? I got you gave me cookie, I gave you cookie. Whatever the the Nick, Nick, it'd be like something that he was doing. He's like, no, yeah, just there's this librarian. I've been dancing with her the whole time. By the way, there's a pirate here. I've been talking to him about shipwrecks all day.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:50

It's like she was a great dancer. Yeah. And when I started talking about the shipwrecks of Jack Sparrow, yeah, and about how like the people that survived the sh the being abandoned at sea had to eat, they had they were found with like phone fingers, finger bones in their pockets from that, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:07

Yeah, that yeah, that one.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:09

Yeah. So this was recent. No, it was a couple years ago. He was like, Oh. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool. Like, why are you telling me this? Because you're dressed like a pirate. You're an actor, you're hired to be here. Now play your part in the page. Dance monkey dance.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:33

It's like, sir, I'm I'm I'm a preacher.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:36

It was not a preacher. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:39

It was Jack Sparrow.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:41

Was the Jack Sparrow. I like to think that you're just like, like, if we like flashbacks to it, it's just like an actual preacher. And you just thought he was a pirate the whole time because you were like, you're way drunk.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:56

I was way drunk, but he was in full regalia. You talk to me about ships, sir.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:01

Or it's just like at the end of the night, your wife's like, there was no pirate.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:06

You were the pirate.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:07

You were talking to you were talking to a tree the whole time that someone hung their pirate hat on. That was a great story. That was that was that was a solid five minutes of diss, and I loved it. So Sean goes upstairs at the party and can see Ashley talking to Kip, who's just talking about Scrabble with her, who is good looking and intelligent, or well, might be intelligent, but sounds real dumb. He's got a dumb turtleneck. Yeah. He hears her saying nice things about his book and then falls off a roof of the back. Nice things about Sean's book, and then falls off a roof. Then he and Ashley get in arguments like, Were you spying on me? No, no, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:50

At least it's honest.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:52

Yeah. Um, and then after they argue a little bit, Sean sees Professor Skinner. What luck. And tells him who he is. Skinner remembers him and says he was impressed by Sean's book about his life. And as they talk, um, and he says that he loves his characters and that he can tell that he loves the characters he wrote. Skinner says his story needs an ending, though. He tells him that what he gained from his book is that even though people seem superficial and stupid, there's still hope. Skinner says he thinks Sean will be a good writer, and he's say that again. No, that's fucking cool. Yeah. And like, I can't remember who played the actor, but like I really liked him. He fucking crushed it. I think it's like William something. You know what? I gotta look it up. No. Um Yeah, he did a great job. He like really slowed the movie down, but like in a like a good way. He's like, hey, this is we needed someone that could bring in a performance that would just kind of crush this scene, and he does. And kind of validates his whole Yeah. And pretty much tells him, like, it's fun doing whatever you want to do wherever you are. Yeah. It's okay. And like you're only gonna learn from the people that you're around. And it's like you don't have to run away from them, you can just learn from them. Sure. But also move out of the house because you're gonna get burned alive in there. Lance is not good for you.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:17

Lance is gonna cause trouble. Yeah. He's gonna always need your piss forever.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:23

And so he's like walking away, he's gonna go walk back to Ashley, but then he runs into Lance, who's hiding from the police in some bushes and gets and throws a beer can at Sean. Um so he says that they have to leave now and leave Ashley behind.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:37

So she's fine, she'll find a nice young man while we sleep in his bed.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:42

Oh, he's like, no, we have to go. And he says, follow him so they can escape, but then he just runs and jumps over a fence and falls aggressively. Of course. And one of the best things in comedy is falling rolling down hills.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:53

It's always good. I fucking love people falling down, it's one of the funniest things. It's great.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:57

And the longer they fall down, the better.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:59

Like when you're on ice and you're slipping for like 10 minutes. Yeah. Oh man.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:04

There's one like Instagram reel that does that. It's like this guy is like, he's like, oh, I'm standing on ice, and then he starts walking and goes, so long. And then he just falls flat on his face.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:16

That's the funniest shit in the world.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:17

It's such a bummer. It's like, man, because like for how long he falls at first, you're like, he's gonna fall. And then he's like, damn, he's still going. It's like, well now, I hope he doesn't fall. And then he falls, and it's even funnier because he fell. I know, Snake. Snake's like that.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:34

That is funny. Yeah, dad never shows me his reels.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:38

Um, so they go to get Ashley, who still doesn't want to get in the car. It's like, no, I'm not coming. Lance helps him apologize and uh tells Sean to say he loves her. And she's like, and in movies, that always gets you the girl to say that you love her. Um, she gets in the car as Lance yells for her to get in the car. Get in the car! You love him, he loves you.

unknown 1:12:58

Get the car.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:00

Um, they stop somewhere, and Ashley and Sean make out while they think Lance is sleeping, but he's only pretending because he's gonna watch his brother make out with the girl. That's hot. Never want to do that ever. So it's the next day, all the characters meet up in Sean's house, and I mean every character. Uh, we learn Arlo and Chad are in love now. Um because I guess like Arlo is searching for some keys, and then I guess they realize they just loved each other at that point. Bud makes a large donation to Stanford for a new admissions building and gets him into Stanford. Everybody is happy, kind of, but Sean goes to his room and sees all his memories and realizes he can stay in Orange County and be a rider and tells everybody he was super happy now. Too bad his dad spent all that money for no reason.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:46

Oh, I'm sure he's fine.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:48

Yeah, I'm sure, but I notice we never cut to the dad's face. I feel like I feel like maybe there had to be a joke. It's like, are you fucking kidding me?

SPEAKER_05 1:13:58

Yeah. Well, at that point, it's supposed to be like the dad finally came around to help someone else. Yeah. And then like Yeah, and everybody, everybody grew. Yeah, but then like he just kind of fucked. Thanks. Thanks.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:14

You really learned the realist. You really made me feel bad, and then I do something good for you. And now I'm like, I guess I have a building. That's when I would call be like, you have to name it after me now. Maybe his other son can go to Stanford now. The the very young one.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:27

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:27

Not the Lance one.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:30

Yeah, I mean, I I feel like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:32

He's leaves him an opening for at least one.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:36

Should have been like, It's like, well, can you get Ashley in there too? He's like, alright, I'll buy another building.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:41

And he j if he just did it, maybe he could like call him and like cancel. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:47

I don't know. Um and then Sean narrates the ending where he buries his book of Skinner uh the co buries his copy of Skinner's book on the beach, hoping someday it will help someone else. The end.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:00

There's some crab out there having a change of heart. Crab people. He's like, oh, a book?

SPEAKER_03 1:15:07

I want to be a writer. Then he reads it. It's like then he goes back to his other crabs. Guys, I don't think I want to say crab people anymore.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:16

And then they just eat him a lot. Start ripping his claws off. Yeah, they would.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:22

You are weak now.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:23

I love this. I love I love the crabs.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:26

That's our next movie. They're horrible. First, we're gonna do your wedding movie where you talk to a tree with a pirate. There were no trees, sir. So you're so drunk. There's it was in a forest. We were on a beach. No beach, it was the desert. There were crabs. There were fiddler crabs everywhere. Is that your nickname, is it? It was the band. So that's the end of the plot.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:54

Jason, what's the point of Orange County? I think the point is that people are just who they are.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:06

And you have to accept that.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:12

It's like you're never gonna get somewhere where everybody is exactly how you want them to be. There's always gonna be shitty people around, and there's always gonna be people that you really like.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:19

And even the people that you love, even though they're a catastrophe, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:28

They can st they can still kind of sometimes like come together and like in some way and help you out. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:38

That's pretty much it, yeah. It's kind of a classic it's the classic coming of age story, but instead of finding growth for moving forward, it's more about finding your growth from where you've come from and the people you're in life that help mold you into the person you are now.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:50

That's more succinct.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:52

Well, it's easy because I have it written down. So I write it down. Uh you may eventually have to leave them, but those people are what made you who you are. And by realizing that that you can find your happiness. I will never go back to where I was raised. Ever. Yeah. I like like I guess technically I'm not too far from where I was raised, but like, you know, I had a good childhood, so it was all good.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:15

Yeah, it was fine until you figure out that they're full of shit. Jason's going to say, I haven't had my coming of age. I still technically I need to find more books.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:28

I need to go looking for trash on beaches. Well, I think you've actually your coming of age was realizing that there are some people that you do have to cut out. Because that's also in some in some coming of age stories, that's kind of like, oh, these really these people that are like a cancer to my life, I have to cut these people out. And that's also a type of coming in age. It's like instead of just holding on to people that are constantly making your life miserable, it's okay to let them go. Yeah. You know? If they're that bad, you know. They are. I mean, because like I guess like I mean, everybody in this, they all had like they all had good hearts because they loved them so much. Like everybody loved Sean so much. And they all wanted to be around him. They were just kind of like because he was the glue holding everything together. But they weren't they kind of weren't how Sean wanted them. Just burping out my lungs.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:19

That's fine.

Good Bad Ugly Fine Ratings

SPEAKER_03 1:18:20

And Sean just had to realize, like, I'm being selfish here. They're gonna be how they're gonna be, but they love me and I love them, so it's like I gotta stop trying to like make them how I want them to be and just let them be who they are. That is true. They're not hurting me, even though they kind of almost they're gonna kill you if you don't leave. You can call them on the phone anytime you want. Sure. Cool. So we're gonna hit up our next category the good, the bad, the ugly, the fine. It's where we discuss the good of the film, something we liked, the bad, something we didn't like, the ugly, something that didn't age well, the fine, something that did age well. For the good, I put it, it really captures that holy shit, I gotta get out of this place feel. Yeah. Um, which I think like most people have in high school. You know that where you just like see a certain group of people and you're like, I got it. No, this isn't me. Like I don't want to be with these people. But uh, which is just like, I don't know. It's like it's hard to c capture that type of feeling in just like a few just like the butterfly thing. It's like that's kind of what it's like. Oh, he is not where he wants to be. And it's kind of like a perfect encapsulation of that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:26

What I thought was good was that he had these people in his life that were willing to really take swings. Yeah. Like Ashley, when she went to her friend, she was like, if you don't do this, I'm gonna tell everyone your secrets. Yeah. That was hilarious. Yeah. And then she's got he's got his brother, who is just will literally burn down a building from him. Yes, exactly. And his mom will attempt, she at least attempted. She attempted. But she's got her own.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:56

She made the mistake of giving her wine. But I'm actually gonna give you, I'm gonna give you half a glass of wine, that's all you get, and then you get water.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:05

Take the edge off the water. But she has the guest pour the wine for her, so it's not her fault. Yeah, that's true. Um But yeah, I just it's it's always good to have I I thought it was so heartwarming to see all these people that were willing to to change to help out Tom Hanks' son.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:27

Yeah. Pretty good.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:29

We should all do.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:30

We should help him out.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:31

He needs help. Colin and Chet. Let's help them both. Uh for the bad, I put the accuracy of a teacher and counselor. Yeah, man. At a teacher very similar. I also had a counselor whenever I went to go like get my classes and stuff for MTSU that I was like, well, maybe we should come back another day if this person. Since there's more than just this one counselor, let's see if we can get a different one.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:55

I never had a single counselor that gave any single modicum of a shit about my life or any that was what was going on.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:04

Yeah. Um, yeah, the ones at MTCU were not nearly as good as the ones at like the community college I went to. They were they were way better than that. That's cool. Except for the fucking one that I got that just completely never scheduled one class that I definitely needed, so I had to go a whole semester again just for one class where I could transfer. So frustrating.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:29

Yeah. Um, you got anything for the bad?

SPEAKER_01 1:21:33

No, not really. It's such a fucking great movie.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:39

Yeah. I loved it. For the ugly, I put Mike White will never win Survivor. Oh, man. And he got so close one time. Spoilers. Yeah. I already spoiled it. If you want it, hey, I will spoil Survivor on this podcast, and I'm so sorry. I will tell you when I'm gonna spoil it though.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:55

I think maybe the ugly is that uh Mike White and Jack Black don't do more things together. Because they that is just a combo made in heaven.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:04

Yeah, right. Yeah. Well, I think Mike White did like the wrote for the Tenacious D show that they had.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:10

Um also, uh I think the next SNL, the guest is Jack Black.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:18

What? The musical guest, Jack White, and it's like they fucking did it. Yeah, they finally did it. They have the white and black connection. Um, the fine, I put um Catherine O'Hara and pretty much the whole cast.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:33

Oh, this cast is loaded, dude. She's so good, she's so lovable. Even though, like she had a drinking problem, she's you could always tell, like, she she cared for them. And whenever after he told her she was a good mother, and she just started immediately mothering the kid. Yeah, the uh the pootie kid. The pootie.

unknown 1:22:56

Where's my pootie?

SPEAKER_05 1:22:57

It was like so natural for her.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:59

She's yeah, because it's just like, oh, it's like uh it's like drink your milk, and he's like, I don't want to. What do you want? I want a pootie. Like, well, we threw that out. You want some juice? And he's like, Yeah, it's like, well, go get the juice. Go get me some too. Yeah. You're so helpful. It's just like, well, why did that work? But everybody else talking to the kid didn't work. I don't know. I think it's just her. I'm missing. Because actually gave some, instead of just yelling, just talk to him. Gave him some agents. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:25

Um anything for the fine for you? The fine? I think I I love seeing movies like this that kind of they kind of give you insight into the people in your life that you kind of underappreciate sometimes.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:47

Yeah. Because of uh the way they act, but I don't know. I guess sometimes they really come through for you.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:55

Yeah, it makes you think I miss it makes you kind of think like, oh, should I that person that I'm like, god dang, they're so annoying. They are kind of cool at the same time. So it's like maybe I should appreciate them more.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:06

Yeah, I get that.

Double Features And Next Movie

SPEAKER_03 1:24:11

Something randomly just popped up on the screen. Okay. So we're gonna hit up our next category, double feature. It's where we recommend a movie to go to alongside the movie we just talked about. So I recommend a 2003 movie. Hey, this one's for you, girl. It's called Grind. Grind. It's uh it's in the era where they're like Oh, grinder. I've got I've seen that. It's like, hey, wait, what do kids like? Skateboarding. Okay, well, let's like a make a movie that has very little plot, has um about 40 jokes, 18 of them hit, and then the rest is just we see people skateboarding.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:54

It's one of those movies. It's like it's weird because it's kind of a cult hit, and they're actually making a sequel to it. And I was like, what the fuck? Um, but it's like four skaters follower to idol on his summer tour and attempt to get noticed, get sponsored and become the stars themselves. It's got the guy from um uh Rat Race.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:11

The guy that talked about this.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:12

Wait, what? Yeah. It's got Joey Kern, Adam Brody's in it. It's oh wow. Uh it's got a my Mike Vogel. It's got actually, it's got like Jason London, got a really good cast. It's it's weird. Um, the worst actor in it's actually Ben Margera. Steven Root's in it. All right. Steven Root. Um Ben Margera. Yeah, so if you're just like from the if you're you know, like you're growing up in the 2000s, those movies are for you and you should watch it with Witch County. Um and if you do watch it and don't like it, well I understand. But I liked it. It was great watching it while, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:51

Using some of that Delta 8, some of that sticky icky, and some of the wine.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:58

Sure that helps. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:59

So what do you got for your double feature? Mine is something that is not streaming anywhere. Is uh saving Silverman.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:07

Hell yeah. I fucking love. Yeah. That's all that Jason Jason Biggs and uh is Jack Black in that one too? Or is that Stealing Harvard? That I'm not sure. I don't know. I haven't seen it in a long time. I've got a lot of movies that sound exactly the same as Orange County.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:24

That's you know, in the early 2000s, it's wild. Like his girlfriend is problematic, so his best friends kidnap her. Yeah. And hijinkson's soon. I love that. I should rewatch that.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:36

It's man, maybe if me and Natalie watch Orange County tonight, we'll just like watch some like early 2000s, like happened around college type movies. Cool. Well, watch those movies. Um, and then watch this next movie that we're doing next week. That's right. We said we're gonna do Donnie Darko, and that's what we're gonna do. Get ready to follow the bunny wherever the bunny takes you. Whether it's a theater to a plane crash, whether you got a portal coming out of your chest, or that Patrick Swayze is this weird teacher guy. You know. Next week is gonna be a mood. Make sure when you're listening, you have your best bunny costume on.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:22

A scary ass bunny. I know.

Wrap Up And Sign Off

SPEAKER_03 1:27:24

Holy shit, whoever made that bunny. I fucking conic. Yeah, join us next week for that. I am exhausted and burning up in this room, and I'm gonna end this podcast very quickly. My back is covered in sweat. Nice. So uh leave us some fan mail. That would be very good. Um, follow the podcast. Uh, I think Jesse also might do some antibiotics or something. Uh right. Uh do whatever you do for podcasts, okay? You guys know what to do. Every podcast you listen to says the same shit. Do all that shit. You do for the other podcasts for us because you like. Yeah. Please. Um. And thank you, Joey Protestor, for our intro and outro music. You can follow me on X at Mr. Joey Proster. Um, yeah, this has been the We Recommend podcast. I've been Jesse. I've been Jason. And uh Jason, let's get naked and start a revolution. Pick our butts. Oh, yeah.