O Brother, Where Art Thou?

“Man Of Constant Sorrow” is one of those movie songs that rewires your brain, and we cannot shut up about why it hits so hard. We recommend O Brother, Where Art Thou? and then dig into how the Coen Brothers turn a goofy chain-gang escape into something that feels like myth, musical, and road comedy all at once. If you love movie soundtracks, Bluegrass music, or films that somehow become comfort watches, this one is a feast.

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Transcript

Welcome And The Perfect Song

SPEAKER_00 0:02

Hello and welcome to the We Recommend Podcast, a movie podcast where every week we recommend a movie for you to watch, and then come back here and listen to us discuss. I'm Jesse. I'm Jason. I detect, like me, you're endowed with the gift of cab. Cause this week we recommend, Oh brother, where art thou?

SPEAKER_04 0:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 0:36

Well, I guess uh we can't talk about this movie unless we ask uh I ask you this question. Is um Man of Constant Sorrow like the greatest fucking song ever made in the history of the planet?

SPEAKER_03 0:48

Yes. This whole soundtrack is really good.

SPEAKER_00 0:51

It's insane. Not a bluegrass guy, but golly, they crush it in this movie. It's wild. The siren song. Yes, go to sleep. Man, it just makes me want to fall asleep. It really does. It really works. So it made church sexy. I just remember when like the first time I watched it, just being obsessed with that song. And just like, you know, George Clooney kind of like swoops into the mic.

SPEAKER_03 1:16

It's like it doesn't even know what he's doing.

SPEAKER_00 1:18

Yeah. It's just coming out. It's just happening. And it's just it's so cool. And then by the time you get to the end, like you love the three goofballs. Yes. And then like at their little dancing, it's like, you know, I kind of get those goosebumps like fuck, this movie did it. This is a successful movie. It was so hard. And it it just it just makes me so happy every time I hear that song.

SPEAKER_03 1:38

You think it's the power of the devil that's making them how to sing so well? You know, because the guy playing the guitar.

SPEAKER_00 1:44

Yeah, well, yeah, you know that the ironic thing is it's like his guitar playing was fine. But their singing was the best. Maybe, I don't know. Maybe there was like a deleted scene where they ended up talking to the devil.

SPEAKER_03 1:58

No, I think because they he sold his soul to the devil to play guitar real good. It's like you're gonna be a star and I'm gonna make it happen.

SPEAKER_00 2:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:06

But like even I even have to make these guys sound good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:10

It's like they get to keep their souls. This isn't fucking fair. So um overall, what do you think of the film? It's just like uh do you love it? I love it. So much. So it's like we've covered Fargo. No Country for Old Men. What else have we done of theirs? Yeah, we've we've definitely done others of theirs. God, it's so bad. Oh, the big Lebowski. Yeah. And then now this. So like out of the four, which which ones do you which one do you kind of prefer?

SPEAKER_03 2:44

I don't know. I mean This is the this one's the most recent in my memory, so I'm just gonna say this one.

SPEAKER_00 2:51

I definitely think this is probably the least successful out of those other three. Wow. I do kind of like the other three more. I think this movie is great, fantastic, and I absolutely love it. So like no shots at it. I just think personally for me, I do enjoy the other three a little bit more. And right now, I kind of actually like Fargo more than No Country for Old Men just as of talking today, just because I've been thinking about Fargo a lot. But you know, you put No Country for Old Men in front of me. I'm so good.

SPEAKER_03 3:25

I think I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna say that one's probably my favorite.

SPEAKER_00 3:30

And honestly, now that I'm just thinking about it, I think that actually might be my favorite even sitting right now. I mean, it is one of my favorite movies ever, so of course

Coen Brothers, Odyssey, Clooney Magic

SPEAKER_00 3:37

it is. Um so you big Homer guy, big Odyssey boy.

SPEAKER_03 3:41

No, I mean I haven't I've never read The Odyssey. Really? I kind of I think in English, uh high school English, we kind of brushed over it some.

SPEAKER_00 3:49

That's uh it's it's weirdly one of the few ones that I remember the most as a didn't really read growing up, but like I do remember a lot from English clash about the Odyssey. It's just kind of fun, and it was like a lot of all heroes' journeys kind of stem from the Odyssey. So, you know, we've kind of seen this the story over and over and over, just you know, with not you know, Cyclops and stuff.

SPEAKER_03 4:13

Well, this one has a I I say it's it's gone a little farther, um, but has a lot more parallels because it it it has an emphasis on like homecoming and yeah, which is like the whole point of Odyssey is yeah, it's like uh getting home to his wife.

SPEAKER_00 4:29

Uh trying, yeah, just trying to after the Trojan War. Because it's the character in it, Odysseus, is the guy that did created the Trojan horse. It's after the Trojan War, he's on his way home. He's like Poseidon's like his boy or whatever, or he's Poseidon's boy, and it's just like ah, you can't do all this stuff, and then there's a Cyclops and there's some sirens and stuff like that. Um it's great. Uh from memory, probably would not like to read it now.

SPEAKER_03 4:59

I think I would. I'd like to get into it again.

SPEAKER_00 5:02

Yeah, it's just you know, this is like the way it was written. Maybe an audiobook while I'm at work, spoken and then written. It's like because I don't even think like Homer was technically a real guy, I don't believe. Because like the story is just word of mouth, like it was never written down for like a the longest time. It was just people telling the stories word of mouth, I believe. I could be completely wrong, but I think that's what I remember from high school, and that was a long time ago. Um, so uh could George Clooney talk your pants off? Yes, because he could mind.

SPEAKER_03 5:34

God in terms of Especially in this post-depression era, like Yeah, with this Dapper Dan.

SPEAKER_00 5:40

Dapper Dan man.

SPEAKER_03 5:40

This is the depression, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 5:42

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's why everybody's like falling on hard times. Yeah. Because I mean, it's just I don't know, because he's charming, even if he's not talking fast, he's just like a handsome, handsome old boy. And it's I don't know. He in terms of like Cohen brother movies, when it comes to like talking fast, I think Cluny is maybe the best with their dialogue. Yeah. In terms of like, oh, I can talk really fast. He's just uh yeah, he's the best. Yeah. It's just I don't know, there's something just so charismatic about him that it's like, yeah, I would, uh, even though I only have two weeks on the chainkang, you know, I'll yeah, I'll escape with you. Why not? When it does that reveal, it's like I was only two weeks away. I'm like, why did you run? You had it, bro.

SPEAKER_03 6:27

He's tired of breaking rocks, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 6:29

It does seem miserable. Oh, but you get to sing those fun fun songs like Poe Lazarus. Yeah, and then you have a bunch of people on horses. Like, if you stop for a second, get to work. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'd rather actually shoot me. Just do it. If this is my life, do it.

SPEAKER_03 6:42

Did you just like pretend to hit the rock real hard?

SPEAKER_00 6:47

Be like a zoolander for you when he's in the coal mine. I think I've got the black lung lung pop. Shit, we're doing that soon. So um bluegrass, bluegrass fan. Is this the only time you're a bluegrass fan? Is whenever you watch this movie.

SPEAKER_03 7:08

Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of bluegrass that I like. There's this really great band that does uh covers of other albums. Like there's a uh Metallica album that they covered. Hell yeah, that's awesome. That was incredible.

SPEAKER_00 7:21

Yeah. It's and it's weird because it's like bluegrass and country, you know, they kind of go hand in hand, except uh country sucks my ass. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 7:29

It's I like bluegrass.

SPEAKER_00 7:30

It's because like country doesn't feel like it. Well, especially now, it's like there's no heart to country, I feel like anymore. And like whenever you listen to bluegrass, it's I mean, it's obviously I feel like it's this country and blues mixed together. Yeah. Well, I would say modern country.

SPEAKER_03 7:44

There's a lot of like outlaw country I c I still kind of like.

SPEAKER_00 7:47

Yeah, I mean, if you listen to like uh some of Willie Nielsen stuff, it's like, damn, that guy, for some reason he sounds really good. I don't know what it is, but um, there it seems like a weird because like the bluegrass, they don't sing they don't sound nasally, yeah, you know, but they have that type of sound to their voice, and it feels like that's what you have to have. Um and uh on the siren song, I don't know if you know who Allison Krauss is, but she was one of the singers for yeah, um the three ladies don't sing, that's not their real voices. Nobody in here sings with their real voices, except for um uh Tim Blake Nelson, who sings that jailhouse song at the very end. And uh he's the only one that actually sings with the song. Cohen's are like, whoa, you can actually sing. All right. Well, we're gonna use that then. That's awesome. Yeah.

Bluegrass Soundtrack And Its Legacy

SPEAKER_00 8:35

So speaking of the songs in this, the film soundtrack became an unlikely blockbuster, even surpassing the success of the film. By early 2001, it sold five million copies, spawned a documentary film, three follow-up albums, O Sister and O Sister 2, and two concert tours, and won Country Music Awards for Album of the Year and Single of the Year for Man of Constant Sorrow. Also won five Grammys, including Album of the Year, and hit number one on the Billboard album charts the week of March 15, 2002, 63 weeks after its release and over a year after the release of the film. I mean, come on, man.

SPEAKER_03 9:12

I talked to a sur a long time ago. I talked to a surgeon who said that he would have this album on loop while he did surgeries. Hell yeah. It's like, I don't know how to feel about that.

SPEAKER_00 9:24

It's like whatever gets him in the zone, I guess. Yeah, whatever does it, I guess. Sitting there singing with his like scalpel. He like pulls out a bone, like sings into it. Yeah. Just whipping out your intestines. Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:39

Spin him over his head. Surgical text, singing back up. Yeah. Fuck yeah, man. Just like doing the little shoulder stance and like moving side to side.

SPEAKER_00 9:51

Even you under anesthesia, just like tapping my foot or foot. Yeah. Fantastic. So about 350 Xers were hired for the clan rally sequence. Many of them were members of the military formation troop, and many were black. Joel Cole Cohen later recalled hearing one say, This is the freakiest thing. A bunch of black people and like KKK robes that's kind of funny. Hilarious. It's like, yeah, suck it, KKK. One of the biggest uh things I had with this movie was I was like, Mississippi, guy's running for office, and and he's part of the clan, and he gets thrown out. I feel like they would raise him up, he'd be like, Yes, you win now, especially in that time. I was like, Well, this seems like the most un unrealistic part of the movie out of all this silliness in it. It's like that, what no?

SPEAKER_03 10:53

The pretty sure the clan was like pretty popular back then.

SPEAKER_00 10:57

I feel like that's what some people ran on at that point, you know. But it is so satisfying at the end. Very, very much so. It's like just burn them.

SPEAKER_03 11:07

And I love how Dan uh John Goodwin's got the costume, he's got the patch on it with one eye.

SPEAKER_00 11:14

It's like, hey, I think we all know who you are once again to wear that. So um Big Dan. Yeah. Although Homer is giving co-writing credit on the film, Joel and Ethan Cohen claim to never read the Odyssey and are familiar with only through cultural osmosis and film adaptations. It's like you can kind of tell. It's like when I was watching, I was like, man, it's like I've always yeah, because I did kind of watch a video before I went into it. Oh brother without that, it'd be like, all right, let me just see like all the pinpoints of the Odyssey. So I'll watch like a 30-minute video. Then after doing that, and then watching this, it's like, well, they kind of know what the Odyssey is.

SPEAKER_03 11:53

They hit a lot of the markers.

SPEAKER_00 11:54

Yeah, I mean, they gave you the sirens and the cyclops and then like the flooding at the end, and that's pretty much it.

SPEAKER_03 12:00

The the holy cows being killed. That is true. There is the whole cow and then punished by Zeus because he's in the electric chair.

SPEAKER_00 12:06

Yeah, yeah. That is true. Um, according to Joel Cullen, there was a snake catcher on set. Um, we hired this guy and he came to set with a golf club, and he would and what he would do is he would look around for snakes. If he saw one, he would rope it with a golf club and put it in his bag. Asked him what you called somebody with this profession, and he said, an idiot. That's awesome. It's like I was when I read that, I was like, man, Jason's gonna love that. Snake man. It's like we hired a guy to come and set with a golf club to do a lot. I thought you were gonna say just whack. Yeah. Just got snakes flying everywhere, just shitting them all over the place.

SPEAKER_03 12:51

Just chipping them into the bag. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:54

And the uh American Humane Association, organization that protects animal rights, mistook a computer-generated cow in the movie for a real animal and demanded proof before that they would allow to use their famous disclaimer, no animals were harmed in the making of this motion picture. After seeing a demonstration of digitally domain, of at digital domain of how a cow was created, the Humane Association added the now familiar, but then much rarer, scenes which may appear to place an animal in jeopardy were simulated. Nice. No, it's ridiculous. And maybe it's just the way it looks on Blu-ray, but maybe look, you know, a little bit less CGI in in theaters, but I'm like, what are you talking about?

SPEAKER_03 13:40

Yeah, in this day and age, would you ever think that someone actually shot a cow with a Tommy gun? Like, get the fuck out of here.

SPEAKER_00 13:49

That is it is a it is a crazy part of the movie.

SPEAKER_03 13:51

It is yeah, it was pretty cool. Baby.

SPEAKER_00 13:54

Which I kind of was, yeah. I mean, though, though the I wasn't even thinking, I was thinking about like the cow in the water and on the roof. Yeah, I wouldn't even I wasn't even thinking about the gunshots. I was like, yeah, that actually did look pretty realistic. I saw maybe I'm actually being an asshole. I do understand. Because when I saw it, I was like, this this really looks like they're shooting some cows.

SPEAKER_03 14:13

It's like it's so unnatural to have a cow on the top of a cotton house.

SPEAKER_00 14:17

Yeah. Love it. Love

Wizard Of Oz Links And Trivia

SPEAKER_00 14:20

it. So Joe Cohen revealed that the film was inspired by the Wizard of Oz. It started as interesting, three saps on the run kind of movie. And then at a certain point we looked at each other and said, you know, they're trying to get home. Let's just say this is the Odyssey. Um, we were thinking of it more as the Wizard of Oz. So we wanted the tag of the movie to be There's No Place Like Home. So it's kind of weird how it because I always heard um that they considered this their Wizard of Oz movie, and I was like, But it's an Odyssey movie, and it's kind of both. How is it Wizard of Aussie? Well, because it's three people trying to get home. It's uh and you know one one is one is dumb, and then one has no courage, and then Oh, like like uh homeward bound. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:08

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:08

Yeah, it's there's a lot of places. So at the KKK rally, the chant is reminiscent of the chant used by the witches, soldiers, and wizard of oz. Also, when the three main characters ambush clan members and don their capes and hoods, it is reminiscent of the lion, 10 man, and scarecrow dressing in the soldier's uniform in order to gain entrance to the castle, or in this case, the clan rally. So I guess uh they represent the lion, 10 man, and scarecrow from Wizard of Oz. Oh, yeah. I think that's how they did it. Yeah. All right.

Sepia Look And Digital Color

SPEAKER_00 15:37

So, you know how I'm always kind of talking about like, hey, color correction, oh brother Rarthow. I'm always like, yeah, that was like the movie that really did it for the whole film. Well I got out we finally have reached this film, and now I can talk about it fully. So one of the notable features of the film is its use of digital color correction to give the film a sepia tinted look. Joel Cohen stated that this was because the actual set was greener than Ireland, apparently. Cinematographer Sir Roger Deacon stated Ethan and Joel favored a dry, dusty delta look with golden sunsets. They wanted it to look like an old hand-tinted picture with intensity of colors dictated by the scene and natural skin tones uh that were all shaded of the rainbow. Initially, the crew tried to perform the color correction using physical process, however, after several trials with various chemical processes proved unsatisfactory, it became necessary to perform the process digitally. Um, and then the whole film was graded digitally on a computer. The negative was scanned in the spirit at 2k resolution, and then colors were digitally fine-tuned. The process took several weeks, resulting digital master was opt out on film again with a Kodak laser recorder to create a printmaster. It was the first time this has been done for a whole film in Hollywood, but not in other countries, apparently. So yeah, they essentially it just kind of is the reason everything looks the way it does now. Uh better and for worse. Yeah, and I love how like it starts off, you know, it's like very, it's almost kind of like very sepia tone, you know, like there's very little colors at all, and then it kind of comes in and it's like I love that shit, and then it ends the same way.

SPEAKER_03 17:13

And it's yeah, there's fantastic. There's a huge difference like between the the scenes on the river and just out in the like the prairies and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 17:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:22

I know.

SPEAKER_00 17:23

I love the way this film looks though.

SPEAKER_03 17:25

It just makes me want to live in it for a little bit because you know, it just seems like the good old depression days. Seems so depressing. Make America depressed again. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:37

On our way, baby. So Tim Blake Nielsen was Joel Cohen's neighbor. Joel hadn't really seen him acting anything. When the Cohen sent him the script, he thought they were asking his advice as a former classics major. Oh, nice. And he's the only one that actually read the Odyssey on the set. Oh, yeah. He's only one. It's like, I'm the only one that knows anything about this. Um at the end, he's like, well, actually. Actually, the Cyclops actually happens very early in the story, not halfway through.

SPEAKER_03 18:05

And um And they were turned into pigs, not frogs. Pigs by the sirens, okay.

SPEAKER_00 18:10

I do have something about that. Um, so at the end, Everett's line finding one little ring in the middle of all that water is one hell of a heroic task, is a reference to the legend of Theseus, who had to find a golden ring at the bottom of the ocean to prove that he was son of Poseidon. Wait, I said Odysseus. Yeah, it's Theseus. Theseus. I get so confused. I don't know. This it's that it's be it's probably because of Hades that I'm playing now, and I'm kind of getting everything kind of confused.

SPEAKER_03 18:37

Again, rules. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:39

Uh another possible interpretation of the siren's actions at the river is that by giving Pete over to the police, the women turn you Ulysses' men into pigs. As Cersei does in the Odyssey. So it's like giving them to the pigs.

SPEAKER_03 18:52

Oh, turn them into the pigs. In the pigs.

SPEAKER_00 18:57

Yeah. Very clever, they are. Very, very clever. Um yeah, love this movie. Uh, love all the performances. Um, but I mean, just the top three. I mean, John Totoro, Tim Blake Nelson, and George Clooney, I mean, they just absolutely kill it. Yeah, for sure. Turn into a horny toad. I thought you was a toad. Oh, it's so good.

Mailbag And The Movie’s Point

SPEAKER_00 19:30

So before we get into the plot, we we have some comments to get through, and also we want you to send us some email about what you think the point of O Brother Warathaw is. Uh and you can go to the link in the description, send us some fan mail that way, or if you're on YouTube, we'll read your comments. And at the bottom of the description, there is an email. We recommend mailbag at gmail.com. You can send us email through there, and our boy Mark with a C. Mark sent us a message. Um, this is during Dogma. He says, Yes, please, and thank you. I randomly turned this on uh late night and was instantly hooked. Um, he says, Yes, that was a Martin reference, and people from the Middle East are brown in complexion. Um, and then he says, This has been the cultural corner with Mark with a C. Nice. And you know, Mark, I do have a question. So now looking at your name, I see that it says like it's like on YouTube, it's Mark Christian81. Um, and Mark ends with a C and Christian begins with a K. And I'm starting to think it's actually Mark with a K. And he just switched the C into K. Oh Mark, please let us know. It was actually my wife, she was like, Oh, I see what he did there. And I was like, What? And I was like, Oh shit. Is he actually Mark with a K?

SPEAKER_03 20:53

Mark, we'll never know.

SPEAKER_00 20:54

Is it C or K, man? We gotta know.

SPEAKER_01 20:59

But anyways, let's get into 2000 M1's Oh Brother Martha.

Escape, Prophecy, And Hard Times

SPEAKER_00 21:07

Cool, so O Muse, singing me, and through me tell me the story of the man skilled in all the ways of contending a wanderer hurried for years on end. Wow. Completely uh misspelled some words in there. That made me feel real dumb to start off the movie. Yay! So movie begins with some men in almost black and white and men on the Chang Gang in Mississippi in the Depression era. It looks so miserable and hot. Yeah. Uh yeah, Chang Gang, no fun. Uh just I would just hit myself in the head with the pickaxe. Uh and then in a very goofy way, we see three men running in the chain gang. Like pop up, start running, dunk back down. So great. I'm up. They see me. It's like, how do they even get away? Like in any way. There's so many people watching. So we see the three men steal a chicken, run from some dogs. Hop on a train, uh suave and smooth talking Ulysses Ulysses Everett McGill gets on the first and talks to some wanders. Uh, but slow-witted Delmar can't make it on the train and everett falls off the train. I love he gets on. Well, you fine folks on this train. Where do you happen to think this is going? It's like they're like, huh? Um, hot-tempered Pete and Everett argue who should be leader. And Delmar is with both of them. I was like, I'm with it, whichever one. Yeah. Tim Blake. I honestly I think my favorite performance is Tim Blake Nelson in this. He's really good. So funny in this.

SPEAKER_03 22:39

Although Pete's always got that stupid look on his face.

SPEAKER_00 22:44

Yeah. Love it. It is cousin Hogswaller. Love them. So uh Everett convinces them that he has hidden 1.2 million after robbing an armored car and promises to split it with him. They hitch a ride with an elderly blind man on a well railway hand car, and he foretells that they will indeed find treasure. So it may not be the one you seek. I think it's supposed to technically be like Homer. Oh. So I think Homer was blind.

SPEAKER_03 23:12

If he ever existed. The blind prophet's kind of a trope and yeah, there is a blind prophet in Odyssey, too.

SPEAKER_00 23:19

So um, if you guys know anything about the Odyssey, please let us know everything we get wrong in a polite way.

SPEAKER_03 23:27

I will say though, perfect transportation for a blind person.

SPEAKER_00 23:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:31

You just go forward and backwards.

SPEAKER_00 23:32

You just crank and be like, I hope I know when I get where I'm going.

SPEAKER_03 23:35

I'll get there eventually. Someone will tell me.

unknown 23:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:38

Hey, you passed the station. Oh, thanks. And also there's also talk of a cow on a roof. Yeah. A cow on the cow?

SPEAKER_01 23:48

Of a cotton house. This guy's insane.

SPEAKER_00 23:55

Stowing up over here. The burping episode. So they travel on foot to visit Pete's cousin, Washington Hog Wallop, where they are met with a kid shooting a gun at them because they hate the bank. Yes. Um, the cousin removes the shackles, gives them new clothes, and allows them to sleep in his barn for the night. However. And I love that, you know, like they eat a little bit and then they just kind of sit there and just listen to the radio.

SPEAKER_03 24:25

What did he say when he asked about his wife? He's like, she R-U-N-O-F-T.

SPEAKER_00 24:30

Yeah. Run off. And they say it like three more times later. It's like the kids like, you don't are you in N F O T, my car. Um, and so yeah, they're sleeping in the barn. However, the trio is awakened by the Thories, led by the devil, partially blind World War I veteran, Sheriff Cooley. Hell yeah. After Hog Wallop had turned them in for the reward.

unknown 24:55

Damn.

SPEAKER_00 24:55

I love you.

SPEAKER_03 24:56

We're in a tight spot. Oh, he's so menacing. I love you can always see like flames in the reflection of his glasses. Yeah, it's great. He wears his sunglasses at night. It's incredible.

SPEAKER_00 25:06

It's because he's the coolest guy that's ever lived. Except he's a bad guy and wants to do bad things.

SPEAKER_03 25:10

Yeah, damn, we're in a tight spot. Over and over.

SPEAKER_00 25:13

It's like, damn. They're always in a tight spot. So the barn is set ablaze, but Everett, Pete, and Del Mar escape with the help of Hogwallis' rambunctious young son who drives him out of the fiery barn in a car. Um Pete throws a torch at the police car filled with guns, and then uh Delmar steals a pig. It's like, why do you have this pig? Stole from my kid. Oh, just like the perfect, like really just like dumb 1930s, like country person. It's like you know, and it's just like seeing them all the time. Still now. Do you ever like miss the days when people just sat around a radio and listened? Yeah, like whittling on the porch and stuff. I love that shit. I feel like now I understand why we had pets. Because like, Jesus, there's nothing to do. And why man m most people love dogs over cats? It's like, well, dogs give me plenty of entertainment. My cat keeps walking away from me. Yeah. And they're evil. It's like sometimes I think of like with all the animals, I'm like, man, with games and TV, I really don't pay attention to them at all. Until my little cat comes and gets in sits on my lap and then like scratches his head, and then he I won't sit here and talk about my cat.

SPEAKER_03 26:35

What is that called? Uh something like when cuteness like cuteness overload and you get like you want to eat, commit violence. Yeah, or get it. It's just like, oh, I just want to rip your head off.

SPEAKER_00 26:46

You're so cute. I just want to wear your skin. I just want to pet you so hard your hair falls out. So they steal the young man's car and shoe him off. Everett is pissed that he can't get his Dapper Dan hair jail. He's a Dapper Dan man, after all. Yes. While hiding in the woods, making a plan to get the money, Pete gets mad that Everett stole his cousin's watch, even though he turned him in. He stole from my kid. Loyal to a fault. Yep. While arguing, they see a bunch of people in white walking into the woods singing a hymn. Oh, love it. That song is pretty cool. It's just it should be like it's kind of scary at first, and then it's just like all this mindlessly walking into the house. And then it kind of like, because this they all sound good. I'm like, this is kind of relaxing.

SPEAKER_03 27:30

They've got had to be like a choir. Like, are they all singing? Well, I think it's just like a congregation.

SPEAKER_00 27:35

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's definitely like a choir. Yeah. Um, so they encounter a religious congregation in the midst of a mass baptism. Pete and Delmar are drawn in and are baptized as well, but Everett resist. While be damned, Delmar's gone been saved.

SPEAKER_03 27:52

I know. I love it. Because Everett's like, y'all are dumber than a bag of hammers.

SPEAKER_00 27:58

Delmar, all my sins been washed away. Yes. Come on, boys. The water is fine. Oh, it's so good. I loved it. And it's like, because he pushes them in. He comes out, he's like, apparently, when I was baptized, I did the same thing.

SPEAKER_03 28:18

Every time they dunked me, I'd be like, he just held you underwater. You're fighting him.

SPEAKER_00 28:24

It's like, what are you all just watching this man do this?

SPEAKER_03 28:30

Come out of the water, punch him in the dick.

SPEAKER_00 28:33

Now I'm gonna baptize you. PR. I don't like this motherfucker. People in the church, this is beautiful. Oh. I always knew Jesse's baptism would go like this. You may baptize?

SPEAKER_03 28:46

Uh many times. Every time he went to a new church. Anytime he went to a new church or new religion. Did you ever do it in like a pool or was it always just sprinkling water on you?

SPEAKER_00 28:55

It was always in a pool. It was always dunked. It's like I remember it's like a lot of times like most of the baptisms I saw was all just like sprinkling water on the head. I'm like, you feel like that's more of a Catholic thing. You ain't saved. I know. You gotta put your whole damn body in the water. You gotta go all the way under just your forehead's a little saved.

SPEAKER_03 29:18

Toss that baby in a river.

SPEAKER_00 29:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:21

You can't just sprinkle it.

SPEAKER_00 29:23

Um, so the law is hot on the trail trail mainly due to Dapper Dan himself.

SPEAKER_03 29:30

Oh, because they followed the bigger.

SPEAKER_00 29:35

There is nothing, it's just there's nothing better than like a quick little saying that rhymes. Dapper Dan Man. It's just like the best part of uh Iron Man 3 is I'm just a man in a can. Oh. And it's just something I say all the time. I've only seen that one once. I don't remember anything.

SPEAKER_03 29:50

You should rewatch it because he's just like 500 Iron Man's Iron Men.

SPEAKER_00 29:55

Yeah. It's great. He's like barely ever in the suit. It's a very lethal weapon. Nice. So they let her pick up a hitchhiking young black guitarist named Tommy Johnson, who claims he sold his soul to the devil in exchange for musical talent. Ain't that a small world? Religiously speaking, Feed and Delmar have just been saved. I guess I'm the only one unaffiliated. Uh, you know what, actually, I said that Tom uh Tom Blake Nielsen was the best. No, it's George Cliffby. I mean, just the way he says that line, it's just absolutely fantastic. So

Recording A Hit In A Can

SPEAKER_00 30:27

they hear that the nearby uh WE ZY radio station pays people to sing into a can. Man in a can. So they put a visit to the blind disc jockey, Steven Root. I love Steven Root so much. It's singing version of constant sorrow with Tommy accompanying them, calling themselves the Soggy Bottom Boys. They are paid 40 in cash and leave satisfied. So fucking good.

SPEAKER_03 30:50

That's rad. And it's so funny when it cuts to uh Steven Root's character, yeah, like behind the glass.

SPEAKER_00 30:55

He's like, It's like they come in and he's like, We don't play any of that new stuff, we only play like down home stuff. And then he's like, Are we all black? And they're like, Yeah, yeah, we are. And he's like, Well, I don't like black people. It's like, well, only our guitarists. It's like God.

SPEAKER_03 31:16

Yeah, well, yeah. Isn't it like first he's like, Yeah, all of us except for our guitarists here, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he's awesome, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:24

So good. Yeah, Steven Route, uh, why he needs to be in everything. I mean, he It's like growing up, we've seen him in everything. Like, you know, all the like dodgeball, King of the Hill, um, this, office space. And it's just like, wow, he really was such a part of our childhood. And even though I know like people liked him at that point, but now he is just like a legend. It's like when Steven Roots in something, everybody's like, and of course the great Steven Root. It's like we're we've been what we watched uh Widow's Bay on Apple. Oh, we're watching that right now. It's so funny. I love it. It's so good. It's like does a great job of being very funny in a very normal way, yes, but a not normal way, and then also kind of being pretty creepy in some elements.

SPEAKER_03 32:12

I know I love that show. We're really enjoying it.

SPEAKER_00 32:14

It's like every oh God. I don't know. It's just so good. I actually like we finished it and I just want to re-watch it.

SPEAKER_03 32:21

The guy when the dude's in the guy in the coffin, it's like, fuck you. Like, he's like, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, let me out. I can't.

SPEAKER_00 32:30

Fuck you. Fuck you. I don't want to talk to you. I'm mad now. It's so great. And uh I'm blinking on the girl's name, but like the like right-hand woman of his, she's she's the best part. She's so her episode with like Oh, yeah, the party. It's like the mirror trick. Yes. So good. Hell yeah. I want to rewatch it. Already just and their faces in the mirror. Oh, yeah, the mirror tricky. It's so good. Oh, hello. It was like one of the points where I'm like, I'm just like enjoying the whole episode. I'm like, this is so stupid. I'll love it. And then that, and I was like, oh, I that made me feel really scared for just it is such a quick little flash, and it's like, I hated that. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:16

Anyways, I don't know I'm getting like goosebumps thinking about it. It's so good.

SPEAKER_00 33:21

And it's just like if it's wrapped up in this whole stupid ass party, it's so funny. Uh and then show is an absolute treat. So, um, yeah, they get the $40 in cash and just the soggy bottom voice. Oh my oh God.

SPEAKER_03 33:39

I don't the look on his face is like, I don't know what I'm doing. It's just yeah, this is happening. This is happening.

SPEAKER_00 33:45

Somehow, this is my voice now.

SPEAKER_03 33:47

Came out with a hit-ass song.

SPEAKER_00 33:49

Yeah. Just kill me. So as the men leave, they run into Pappy O'Daniel, who's there to do some politicking as he is running for governor. It is so he treats his song like shit. Low-key, some of the best parts of this whole movie is this guy and his like uh cohort, yeah, just like repeating everything he says, but like not understanding what he's saying. He's like, No, I'm you idiots, I'm not actually being serious. Like, oh yeah, well, of course you're not. And the son just being absolutely useless. It just it feels so accurate to what like uh someone running for office back in the day would be like, yeah. It's like that fakeness about him that like back then we were even stupid to when we are now, and it's just like we can't see right through it, we just all fall for it. And we Which I'm sure wasn't true.

SPEAKER_03 34:44

And we've stopped using little people as a gotta sweep them up.

SPEAKER_00 34:49

I'm a man for the little people. Oh no. Maybe we should bring it back. I don't know. We were practically there, right? So that not why sleeping in the woods and listening to Tommy sing and play his guitar, Everett asks the men what they will do with their money. Pete wants to open a restaurant in the West where people call him Sir. Delmar wants to buy his parents' farm that has been foreclosed, and Everett has no plan. Because he never has a plan. No, he just moves forward. Hell yeah. So the shadowy sheriff cooley and police track them down and find their car near their campsite. Everett, Pete, and Delmar part ways with Tommy as they escape. The next day they meet famed Robert George Babyface Nelson, who hates being called babyface. On the run from police, they shoot at cops and cows. He's like, get in. He's like, hold the wheels. They start shooting at the cows. It's like, what the fuck is going on?

SPEAKER_03 35:40

Yeah, just be just to be cruel. Yeah. And that in in the story of the Odyssey, I think these are holy cows of the god Helios.

SPEAKER_00 35:48

Yes, something like that.

SPEAKER_03 35:49

And then Zeus punishes them. And it was like, that's really cool. Never thought about that before.

SPEAKER_00 35:54

Those damn gods.

SPEAKER_03 35:55

Well, he did kind of very fickle. I mean, I know what he was I could see what he was trying to do when he shot the cows. He's trying to get them to stampede.

SPEAKER_00 36:01

Which was like, Yeah, I mean, which one got in the road?

SPEAKER_03 36:04

I don't even think he meant to. I just think he just been cruel. I think he was cuckoo crazy, man. He's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 36:10

There's a lot of heart hurt in his heart. Um, and then they accompany him and robbing a bank. Like goes in, he's like, shoots his gun up, like nobody really reacts at all. Everybody's just like sits there, he gets the money, and then someone's like, That's baby Phil Snailson. He's like, What'd you call me? Now, like the other three are just kind of standing around, like, what's going on? So funny. Um, then after spending the night at campsite, babyface, who seems very melancholy, gives them a share of the stolen loot and departs. Because it's like, what's wrong with you? Why are you so unhappy?

SPEAKER_03 36:42

So depressed.

SPEAKER_00 36:43

Money doesn't make you happy. It doesn't make them happy. He likes the thrill of it, but uh he's just an empty man inside. Just a baby face inside. So back at the radio station, we learn that the uh record they made is extremely popular. And now the radio execs uh want to get the record out there. They're even like, who are the soggy bottom boys? Because nobody knows them. Because a blind man is the only one that's heard them. So the trio trio's still a pie. Like Redol.

SPEAKER_02 37:12

So good.

SPEAKER_00 37:14

Ah, so classic. Love it. They're just like laughing while they're eating it. Such a good bit. So it's like kids. And uh throw a newspaper away that is talking about the soggy bottom boys and asking, who are they? While hitchhiking, um hitching a ride, they almost are seen by the cops. More people asking about the soggy bottom boys. They hitchhike some more, ever get some dapper dan and they steal a car. Nice little montage, essentially. Um so, and I love it. It's like because like someone goes into the like inside to pay for gas, and they just immediately jump in the car, drive off. So good. So then the trio encounter three silent sirens, beautiful women washing clothes in the river, and are seduced by them.

Sirens, Big Dan, And Betrayal

SPEAKER_03 37:58

It is funny watching them all just be so dumbfounded at what they've found.

SPEAKER_00 38:04

And they start for start forcing drink down their throats. Uh it's so great. And then, like, just like the song and them like throwing their clothes like on the rocks, and it's it is kind of like hypnotizing, weirdly. It's just the way it's filmed, like how they're walking so slowly, and it's like the one time they get everett to shut up.

SPEAKER_03 38:24

It's in perfect harmony, yeah. And it's just turning them all into horny toes.

SPEAKER_00 38:28

It's like, you know, music, you know, it really does something to you.

SPEAKER_03 38:33

A part of the moonshine.

SPEAKER_00 38:35

A part of me kind of wishes we did sinners than this. Oh it's like what's uh what's uh um Mississippi and the Delta for black people, and then the Delta in Mississippi for white people, and like the difference between the musics and how everything's acting. That would be interesting. So it's just been an interesting contrast, I feel like. Um yes, so Delmar and Everett discover the next morning that Pete has disappeared, and Delmar believes the women turn him into a horny because they left his clothes?

SPEAKER_03 39:10

Like, what are they what happened?

SPEAKER_00 39:12

Yeah, it's just because he got their clothes. Yeah, that's what I understand. It's like, why are the clothes still there? Um it's like I guess they just got him drunk and drug him off.

SPEAKER_03 39:19

He's the only one that got lucky and then arrested.

SPEAKER_00 39:21

So he he had like a maybe he didn't pa he maybe he was the only one that didn't pass out and then they like lured him away for the reward, I guess. Maybe they couldn't. So why they need to do all three? I don't know. They couldn't carry them all. Just love his clothes are abandoned, like he's just been like raptured or something, and then like there's a frog on him. It's so good. It was in his pants, wasn't it? Like artist crotch. Like crotch or like chest, something like that. So carrying Pete in a shoebox, Delmar and Everett go to a restaurant for breakfast where they meet Big Dan Teague, a one-eyed Bible salesman, and like Everett, he has the gift gap. Um, also at the ref restaurant is Papio Danielson is struggling with his election because he's losing to his fellow rival. Oh man, the rival sucks. Yeah. Thinking that the box contains money, Big Dan lures them to a field for an advanced tutorial on salesmanship. And then he just violently beats the two men, kills the toad after finding no cash, and steals their car and what money they have on it. It's like I love it because he goes over, he sits with them, and he's like, What do you do there? Uh Big Dan, he's like, I sell Bibles. And it's like, in a times like this, this is the easiest thing to sell. Yeah, people are looking for answers, and I'm the one man with them. And then I just love it. Goes out and he's like talking, talking them up, and he's like slowly just getting ready to hit the shit out of him with a Bible.

SPEAKER_03 40:45

He just hits them and like every single watching and eating.

SPEAKER_00 40:48

It's like just eating his corn. It's like, what's going on here? That just beats the shit out of him. It's so funny. Uh, there's not a lot of John Goodman in it, but the little there is, he nails.

SPEAKER_03 41:01

Remember in the story of the Odyssey, whenever they're captured by the giant, the Cyclops, they all escape by wearing sheepskin. Yeah. Like to kill the sheep and then sneak out.

SPEAKER_00 41:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:10

Oh, just thought I'd thought that.

SPEAKER_00 41:12

Yeah, that was that is like because that's like near the beginning of their journey. Yeah, I remember that being one of my favorite parts. And we actually ended up watching the Odyssey in the class, and that was my favorite part of the whole film. I didn't know there was a movie. Oh, yeah, there's plenty. Uh blanking on his name. It seems like that's Cark Douglas. He's he's got uh a movie or a show with him. I think that's the one we watched. And so cut to Pete, who's been captured by the law and is being whipped, Sheriff Cooley threatens him with a hanging. Unless he gives up where Delmar and Everett are. Everett tries to keep Delmar's spirits up. He is sad that they're gonna dig up the treasure without Pete. They pass a chain gang where Everett thinks he saw Pete with them. Definitely did. Yep, definitely them. So, bruised and defeated, Everett and Delmar arrive at Everett's hometown where he attempts to speak to his strange wife, Penny. Penelope, which is in like Odyssey.

SPEAKER_03 42:03

What do they call the girls? Um, they're they're the waldrop girls now because of Vernon.

SPEAKER_00 42:10

The quad trip triplets or quantum, whatever.

SPEAKER_03 42:13

I don't know, but they're they're so cute and they're all tied together with a rope.

SPEAKER_00 42:16

It's like especially the one that just kind of like always stops and wanders a lot. Yeah. Um, but Penny played by Holly Hunter, an absolute treat. Uh, mother of his seven daughters, he finds that Penny is engaged with Vernon T. Waldrup. He's a suitor, he's a bonus. He's a suitor, he's he's bona fide. Love that shit. And that's the classic. It's just we kind of discussed this during like Fargo and um Big Lebowski, but like, you know, the repetition of certain like sayings, and like this is a Dapper Dan man. He's bona fide, he's a suitor, like over and over and over until it's just like, it's so funny. Because it's annoying the shit out of him. Yeah. Uh apparently he's Waldrup is the campaign manager for Homer Stokes, a man for the little man who really likes sweeping. He is running for governor against the grouchy elderly incumbent, Pappy Old Daniel. Penny refuses to take Everett back and was so ashamed of his arrest that she told their daughters he was hit by a train and killed. Lots of respectable men have been hit by trains. I love it. You're not her daddy, our daddy's dead. It's like, yes, I am your daddy. Why is your motility who did that? It's like, are you going around telling our daughters I've been hit by train? Oh, it's so great. And um, yeah, this this waldrup guy, oh, he's great. This actor is. He looks so funny.

SPEAKER_03 43:44

Looks like a little rat. Like perfect. I love his the the old boxing style that he comes out with.

SPEAKER_00 43:50

Yeah, oh, when they do their little fight and he just gets the shit beat out of him. It's like I'm trying to think is it's uh Vernon is played by Um Ray McKinnon and I was thinking he looks like he Oh yeah, he's in Deadwood and Mud. That's probably where I've seen him the most. I was thinking he was the guy in Oh, he's also in Ford vs. Rory. Hold on, I'm just trying to see if he was in Deadwood was a really good show. Movie.

SPEAKER_01 44:20

And he was not.

SPEAKER_00 44:22

I was thinking he was in You know, and I can't if I can remember the actual name of it. Uh Moulin Rouge, but he's not. So never mind. But yeah, Everett and Waldrup have a silly fight where Everett loses badly. It's like he gets thrown out of the store. It's like, ah. Damn. It's like he's not a fighter, he's a talker for sure. So, rejected, Everett and Delmar attend a movie where a prison chain gang is in the audience. Pete, it turns out, was turned into the police by the sirens, is once again in chains. In the theater, Pete advises his friends to not seek the treasure. Do not seek the treasure. It's a bushwag.

SPEAKER_02 45:06

And while wheezing, he's like, We thought you were a toad.

SPEAKER_00 45:14

Oh man. So good. And the three's like, y'all cut it out up there. Man, that messed up my voice. Oh man. You put a frog in your throat? Hey! Don't talk about frogs. You know how I feel about them. Even just the idea of like stepping on a frog and it's squishing is ugh. I know. It'd be awful. So even wearing shoes, it'd be like, well, my shoes are gonna get warts. Ugh. Frog's a gross dude. So, uh, Pappy and his sons are and campaign managers are talking about what they're gonna do about their campaign. They talk about paddling and kicking. I don't even remember why I put that in there. That night, Everett and Delmar stealthily break him out, better break Pete out of jail. Pete tearfully confesses that after threatened with death by the authorities, he revealed their plans to find the armored car loot for Sheriff Cooltley, whom they finally learn is the one that's been hunting them across the state. However, Everett reveals that he fabricated the story to entice Pete and Delmar to escape with him. Everett had truthfully been arrested for practicing the law without a license and was determined to escape when he heard his wife's plan to remarry. If caught, the trio could face an additional 50 years in jail, jail. Enraged Pete tackles Everett because he only had like two weeks left.

SPEAKER_03 46:34

Well, you should have just stayed. Could have said no.

SPEAKER_00 46:36

What I love about it, this whole thing, is the fact that he was caught practicing law without a license. And it's just like that, and what this movie does so well is that is the most believable thing I've heard in this movie. I'm like, yeah, of course, this smooth talking guy thinks he could just like practice law without probably having zero idea of what he's just like, yeah, if I just go in there and make a rousing speech, everybody's gonna believe me. Yes, and just it kind of is true, yeah. It's true now. Yeah. But it's just like, yeah, of course, this like big-headed person would think that. It's a fucking con artist. It's like, I love it. I just see me, I'm like, yeah, that sounds about right. Forever. That's exactly what he would get arrested for. It wouldn't be for fighting or killing anybody, it would just definitely be for I thought I could talk myself into a situation.

SPEAKER_03 47:27

Not a violent person.

SPEAKER_00 47:28

Putting my best or best Dapper Dan product.

SPEAKER_03 47:32

Uh just been a spokesperson for Dapper Dan.

SPEAKER_00 47:34

And I just love how mad Pete is. So mad. Love it. No, that's a good if they did make O Brother War Thou again. Like that would be great. It's like he would obviously, they probably the Dapper Dan people would be like, Yeah, you can be the face of our product. Yeah, I'd go for that. Then he'd be bona fine. I'd take the sequel. He's got he's a bona fide. He's a suitor. So the three stumble upon a Ku Klux Klan rally in a nearby field doing a silly little dance.

KKK Rally Rescue And Payback

SPEAKER_00 48:05

There is nothing better in movies than when they just make the clan. Looks so dumb. All they are is it's like a bunch of theater kids almost essentially trying to play out a cult ritual. And it's just like y'all are so stupid.

SPEAKER_03 48:19

Yes. So dumb. Especially with names like Grand Dragon Wizard. Yeah, the Grand Dragon.

SPEAKER_00 48:25

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Um uh yeah, Django. It's so good. It's one of the best kids in there. They're great.

SPEAKER_04 48:36

My wife stayed up all night making these hoods for y'all.

SPEAKER_00 48:42

Now we all agree that it was very nice to do that. I'm out of here. Oh man. So they see that Tommy Johnson has been captured and that the clan is preparing to hang him. The trio disguise themselves as color guard members and attempt to rescue Tommy, but are confronted by Big Dan with only one eye cut out of his hat or hood. A member in attendance. The red robed grand wizard, it so happens, is candidate for governor Homer Stokes. It's like, oh, I knew he was a bad guy. The red, um, after a scuffle, Everett, Pete, and Delmar topple a huge fiery crucifix onto Big Dan, presumably killing him and escape with Tommy.

SPEAKER_03 49:26

It was kind of awesome. I caught the spear. Yeah. Right before. Yeah, that was pretty sick.

SPEAKER_00 49:30

And then it's like, so satisfying. Killed by the cross. Hell yeah. After Burning Cross, after trying to sell all his Bibles. Clever. So the men escape, and Everett wants to get his wife back, but the others don't really care. But Everett talks them into it as he is able to do. Um, the four men arrive at a campaign dinner disguised by long false beards, pretending to be the hired band. They slip on stage and entertain.

Concert Reveal And Political Pardon

SPEAKER_00 50:00

Del Mars sings an impressive version of In the Jailhouse Now while Everett attempts to speak to Penny again while on stage. He's like, Hey, it's me. Like pulls his beard down. I love the little silly dance. Oh yeah, because he's like doing that thing where he like holds his uh overalls, and then it's kind of almost like a chicken dance, like moving side to side. Absolutely love it.

SPEAKER_03 50:24

And then they come out with their banger. Yeah. Oh, so good.

SPEAKER_00 50:27

Yeah. And uh he tells her he can get a license for dentistry, and she's like, Are you fucking serious? When the men launch into Man of Constant Sorrow, they watch in awe as the entire audience is rises to its feet and cheers, recognizing them as the elusive soggy bottom boys.

SPEAKER_03 50:42

Like the Elvis Presley of Depression.

SPEAKER_00 50:45

Dude, George Clooney just crushes this scene, pulling his beard down.

SPEAKER_03 50:51

Yeah, making the ladies go crazy.

SPEAKER_00 50:54

Dancing and the suaveness, the coolness from him of a character that has just been so none of those things except talking it like it. It's so good. And I don't know. I watched it, I watched, I watched this scene twice because I thought it was so fun.

SPEAKER_03 51:13

I absolutely love it. And then they carry out Homer on a rail.

SPEAKER_00 51:16

Yeah, because Homer comes, he arrives and tries to reveal them as a man who disrupted the lynch mob in performance of his duties. And he's like, Come on, right, y'all. And they're like, it's just like crickets. Um the townspeople are outraged at Homer's uh confessed racism and literally ride him out on a rail. Nice. Uh bad move, Homer. Uh it's like white people be crazy. I love, I wish we could still do that. Ride people out on rails. Yeah, just like pick them up. It's like, so that's how people should get fired now. Yeah. It's like at least it's kind of a cool story about how you got fired.

SPEAKER_03 51:54

I mean, he could have just jumped off the rail, I guess, right? But I feel I guess like if it's it's high up enough where you might fall off and get hurt, so you don't want to fall.

SPEAKER_00 52:01

Then you fall off, they might beat the shit out of you. So Everett, Pete, Delmar, and Tommy resume playing, and a delighted and victorious um uh Pappio Daniel joins them on stage and grants them an official pardon and become his brain trust. I love it.

SPEAKER_03 52:18

He's shaking his buttons.

SPEAKER_00 52:25

I love Pappy. He's one of the best characters of the whole movie. When he comes out and he like, it's just the scumminess of a of a politician to be like, I can take advantage of this situation. Let me get up here and pretend like I care and not just doing this for myself.

SPEAKER_03 52:42

Yeah, and he uses he uses his uh I guess his role in politics to sell his own biscuits.

SPEAKER_00 52:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:49

It's it's right on the money.

SPEAKER_00 52:51

It's something that uh yeah, it's very accurate right now. Anybody want any gold shoes or watches? Um rump watches. Because we're making it better again by going back to the 1930s, baby. Let's go. Kill me. After the event, Penny takes Everett back, but demands that he return to their old cabin and retriever wedding ring. Ain't gonna be no wedding. I said my piece and counted a three. She counted a three. Oh no. God damn it, she counted a three. Serious. Absolutely love it. And uh, I think like there was some stuff earlier in the movie about how they're gonna like flood an area. Yeah, it's like some signs and things like that.

SPEAKER_03 53:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:38

Us. Um yeah, I love their ain't gonna be no wedding. It's like when she gets mad. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:51

Uh had to retrieve a ring from the bottom of the ocean for Poseidon. Damn Poseidon.

SPEAKER_00 53:58

Yeah, son of Poseidon. That's right. See, I mean, you you got the knowledge. Did you like watch something recently about it? Or just like read something, or you just remember? Uh it's blacked out for a second. It's blacked out into the Theseus days. So they briefly see babyface Nelson again, recaptured by police, but in extremely high spirits, happy at the thought of being executed in the electric care. Cow killer. Just like Zeus. Yes. Or uh just like what Zeus is gonna do to him. So the men arrive at the cabin the next morning, but to their horror, find that Sheriff Cooley and his posse have caught up with them, and his men have already

Flood Finale And The Wrong Ring

SPEAKER_00 54:40

dug their graves. As the authorities loop nooses over a tree branch, Everett drops to his knees and prays that he might see his daughters again. Um, before we continue, it just really sucks for uh um Tommy, you know.

unknown 54:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:56

He's like, I didn't do anything. Yeah. He's like, it's obviously a racist thing, but it's just like, let the guy go. He didn't have anything to do with this.

SPEAKER_03 55:04

Well, he's the devil, and he sold assaulted the devil. So he's getting that's true.

SPEAKER_00 55:09

He's a devil.

SPEAKER_03 55:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:10

It's like I wonder how he sold assaulted cooley.

SPEAKER_03 55:13

You well, I think all you have to do is go to the crossroads and say some magic words.

SPEAKER_00 55:18

Oh, the movie was Zoe Sardana and Britney Spears.

SPEAKER_03 55:20

Yeah. Or Bone Thugs in Harmony. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 55:25

My rockish song is bone.

SPEAKER_00 55:28

God, I love that song. It is like the bet the best beginning to any song. It's like I wish I could sing. Um, so uh at that moment, the valley is flooded, the cabin is destroyed, and Everett, Pete, Delmar, and Tommy surface on a newly made lake and hold on to their coffins, which is fantastic.

SPEAKER_03 55:51

Saved by death. Death itself.

SPEAKER_00 55:53

Pete and Delmar think that it was a miracle, but Effort tell Everett tells them that the land was meant to be flooded to use for electricity. It's gonna completely logical. I just love it. They're all like, it was God who saved us. Well, there's actually a problem. They knew this was gonna happen. A perfectly good explanation for any of this, as you see here, that they're gonna flood this land to use it for electricity, and this whole place is gonna be lit up. It's like, welcome to the future, boys.

SPEAKER_03 56:20

Yeah, then he sees the sees something he um doesn't understand, like something that's completely illogical. Yeah. What the prophet told him in the beginning.

SPEAKER_00 56:29

Yeah, the cow on the roof. The cow on the roof. So they see the cow on the roof, and then Tommy on a roll tied desk with his rings. They retrieve the thought-after ring from a floating roll top desk and return to town. Shortly afterwards, Everett is happily reunited with Penny and his children. The family is taking a walk through town where Penny remarks that the ring Everett brought her is the wrong one. She firmly asserts, so frustrated Ever that he must find the original ring now at the bottom of the lake. Oh, it's like it's like, well, come on, it doesn't matter. It's like I counted three.

SPEAKER_04 57:04

Ain't gonna be no wedding. He went through a lot of shit to get that for you. Yeah, I know, right?

SPEAKER_00 57:08

Because they almost died, you know, right. Their daughters sing the hymn, Angel Band, as they cross the paths with the elderly hand car operator who had predicted Everett's face. Fate, not face. The end. Yeah. So, Jason, what is so good? The point of the story.

SPEAKER_01 57:33

I guess uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 57:35

I mean there's a lot of different points. I don't know. What's your point?

SPEAKER_00 57:42

It's mainly a story about redemption and search for your home.

SPEAKER_03 57:47

My first thought was that nothing I can do is ever good enough.

SPEAKER_00 57:53

True at the end, yeah, it's just like all this.

SPEAKER_03 57:55

For nothing, and I have to go well, they are free now. Yeah, they are free. They've kind of made made their peace with you know higher powers or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 58:05

Change their lives, you know, just for the better. Well, they got that soggy bottom money. That's right, yeah. And on and uh speaking of that, go to my OnlyFans, Soggy Bottom Boy. Ah did it. Uh so we're gonna hit up our next category.

Good Bad Ugly Fine Plus Politics

SPEAKER_00 58:25

The good, the bad, the ugly, the fine. It's where we discuss the good of a film, something we liked, the bad, something we didn't like, the ugly, something that didn't age well, the fine, something that did age well. I mean, the good is easy. I mean, this cast is incredible in every aspect of this movie. There is like there's not a bad performance from anybody anybody, anything. Um, I was actually curious, so I guess this is a movie that some people don't actually like. What? Yeah. And it's like I've heard this, like, oh, it's too silly and stuff like that. I'm like, well, you've seen a Cohen Brother movie, right? You've seen the Big Lobality.

SPEAKER_03 58:58

Some people just can't be.

SPEAKER_00 59:00

It's like I was just kind of wondering, like, as we're getting to the bad, which it's like we're on now. Um, like I put nothing and I was just like, what do you think people have an issue with?

SPEAKER_03 59:12

Maybe some of the religious stuff. I don't know. Like, I know when my younger brother uh turned twelve, I got him the Harry Potter movie, and my parents told me that it was demonic and evil. So they made me take it back, and I chose this movie to give him instead. And they're like, oh, that's perfect. That's perfect.

SPEAKER_00 59:34

This really nails it. So I don't I don't really know. Which is ironic, because I mean like the lead character, the one that you're rooting for the whole time, is the only one that does not become religious at all throughout no matter what.

SPEAKER_03 59:48

Everett's character could also be like shining a light on um society's, you know, uh obsession with appearance. And yeah, that's true. Maybe that's has something to do with it. Yeah. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:00

Yeah, and that he kind of gets his way by being the only one that isn't the religious one. Yeah. He's the only unaffiliated one. Thinking things well, he doesn't think things through at all.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:11

Yeah, obviously. And you know, they're con cohorting with someone who sold their soul, and it actually makes them successful. This movie's metal as fuck.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:21

Hell yeah. Uh I put for the ugly, um, pretty obvious, uh, the KKK and the fact that there are still people in Tennessee that they're into this. You remember like what was the like anonymous the when they released like all the names of like people in office that like are affiliated with the KKK? That was like a long time ago. I don't remember. I don't know like how accurate it was, but I do remember nobody cared about it, right? There was quite a bit of Tennessee in that I think are still in office.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:55

Yeah, they're running the show right now.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:58

Hate everything.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:59

It's just gonna we're gonna be like, you know, Texas just passed the law where they are forcing Bible reading in school. Tennessee's gonna be next.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:07

Two steps forward. Or no, one step forward, two steps back. Three steps back. That is the name of Tennessee.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:13

Just let's on June July 1st, like yesterday, they just put a whole bunch of new restrictions on marijuana. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:21

Yeah. The thing that was literally the best. Scheduled, like made less illegal in this country. And they're like, how about nobody use it? And it's like not even. Hey, but please do what every politician in Tennessee wants you to do. Drink and pop pills so they can arrest you and put in their prison and that so they can make more money off your DUIs.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:46

Yeah, and free labor and yeah, we should take slavery out of the constitution. We got a little uh little political there at the end.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:54

I absolutely apologize if you don't believe in anything that we said. It doesn't matter. You could suck it. But keep listening. Because we all don't have to agree on everything to still be cordial with one another. Yeah, yeah. And we don't really bring up politics that much. It's just hard not to. Define Cohen brothers.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:17

I love their their um their filmmaking is so good, like with this story, because it's just going it's kind of it's moving so fast, but it's yeah, but you don't re there's it's good storytelling.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:29

Yeah. It's they just take regular people and put them in situations that are ridiculous and it just works 100%. Or they take a type of character. Yeah. Like with the big Lebowski. You take a stoner, you put them in this crazy uh like noir plot, essentially. Fargo, you take this like midwestern cop and put him in this like weird like crime spree type of or like uh just blanking on whatever corruption. I don't know. What what what do you how do you say what they're doing? Um I don't know, murder shit. Uh murder blogs and in this you just got like a s you know, just like a guy who's not really good at anything but talking, and then you put him in this like hero's journey type of situation. It just always works. I don't know. It's weird. And they're just some of the wittiest film writer or filmmakers. Um, please come back, please start making movies together again because you're they break up, yeah. They're just off making their separate movies and they're just not nearly as successful. And it's weird, and it's like I don't know what the deal is about.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:39

Now we're gonna have to learn their first names. It's bull crap.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:42

Joel and Ethan. Okay, no, pretty easy. Only said it a thousand times. Cool. So that's that category. Uh sorry I can't talk sometimes. Um, our next category is double feature.

Double Feature Picks

SPEAKER_00 1:03:56

Well, we recommend a movie to go alongside this movie, and there is a perfect one that I have. Please. Holes. Oh, I haven't seen holes. You've never seen holes with Shia LaBeouf? Oh. It's actually a movie that's longer than this one. Yeah, they're just like, you know, instead of an actual camp, uh, they're like sent to like this bad boy camp. So a wrong wrongfully convicted boy is sent to a brutal desert detention camp where he joins the job of digging holes for some mysterious reason. It's treasure. Um, yeah, this movie rules got shot a little boof. Uh Sigorny, Weaver, John Voigt, Tim Blake, Nelson. I mean, the cast is stacked, and all the kids are like, they're so good in it, man. You and your kids should watch it.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:37

I know, that was what the ass feels like it's on Disney.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:40

Yeah, it's like PG.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:41

Awesome. Yeah. Yeah, I've never seen it. I always heard there was a book, too.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:50

God. I've I watched that movie so much as a kid. It really is uh it's great. I really want to watch it. Maybe I'll do that.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:58

Hell yeah, man. Yeah. Oh yeah, what do you got for your double feature? Well, I was thinking like I don't know if I decided already like the three kings with a Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:14

They're in the you know, in the desert. And I I feel like they're it's it's kind of a it's kind of a cool movie where they they find the treasure map in somebody's butt and then they got to go find the gold, and then there's this huge redemption story around it.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:28

You wanna hear something extremely interesting? What uh the Cohen brothers sent uh George Clooney the script while he was on set of three kings. Oh nice. Yeah, because it's like a couple years before. That's cool. Isn't that fun? I love that you bring it up. Three Kings is a perfect recommendation, Jason. So maybe I've never seen that I really want to.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:47

That has that has um like cool battle like fight scenes and uh it's like a torture scene that I can't get out of my head. Is that Jamie Foxx?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:57

Seeing that? No. What? Oh, I was thinking of different ones. Ice Cube, Mark Wahlberg, George Clooney. And Spike Jones is in it. Good guest. He directed her and Where the Wilder Things Are Where the Wild Things Are, and Adaptation and Bing John Malkovich, a movie. Have you ever seen Bing John Malkovich?

SPEAKER_03 1:06:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:15

Oh, we're gonna have to do that.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:16

It is pretty good. Yeah, love that movie. The whole like puppet scene is so it's like so good.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:21

It's so sad. But then but everybody's like, ew!

SPEAKER_02 1:06:24

Oh, this is terrible.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:26

Disgusting. It's like, I don't know, it's kind of the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. Um, so yeah, that is the conclusion of O Brother

Rocky III Next Week And Reviews

SPEAKER_00 1:06:35

War Thou. I hope you guys enjoyed it. Make sure you join us next week for that's right, baby. Rocky III! You thought we weren't gonna do Rocky again? We're doing it all the way up until Creed. Well, we're not doing Rocky V. I'm debating on Rocky Balboa. It's a ridiculous one, but I still really love that movie. But we are skipping Rocky V, don't worry, guys. Yes, Rocky III! It's where they're like, this is the movie where they're like, what if we didn't care as much about all the stuff outside of the ring, but really cared more about boxing. So, yeah, join us next week for Rocky III. It's gonna be a banger. Watch it this morning. We're about to do it immediately and pump the fuck up about it. Because there's no better way to start your morning than 7:30 in the morning watching people beat the crap out of each other. It's so good. Ah pity the fool who hasn't watched that at 7:30 a.m. So yeah, join us for Rocky 3. Um, thank you for listening. Please leave us some fan mail. We love to hear you. Us and Mark are pretty much the closest friends you've ever had. Um, but yeah, seriously, uh leave us some good reviews, you know, tell people about us, see if they like us. Uh, you know, like we're just some we're so we're like good people that like talking about movies. Um, and you know, support us instead of boring ass hella popular podcasts I listen to. And I'm like, why do anybody ever listen to these podcasts? Um, so yeah, because even though we might not be the best podcast, I try so hard. I give all my energy to this shit. Hell yeah, man. So leave us some good reviews. Do it for Jesse. Do it for me. Up here crying during Rocky III, 7 a.m. in the morning for you people. Leave us some good reviews. Uh no, but yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:42

Your emotions punch you in the face.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:44

Yeah. Um, but yeah, I guess that's pretty much it. I feel like I said anything. Uh yeah, just leave comments, send us to people, ship us there. And this has been the We Recommend Podcast. I've been Jesse. I've been Jason. Horny. I'll say them first. Bye.