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So guys, if you liked"},{"speaker":"[Daniel Dumas]","startTime":2732.033,"endTime":2738.018,"body":"this, contact Lindsay. She's"},{"speaker":"[Daniel Dumas]","startTime":2732.033,"endTime":2738.018,"body":"cool. She dances. And if it's not Lindsay,"},{"speaker":"[Daniel Dumas]","startTime":2738.218,"endTime":2743.783,"body":"find somebody that you can just"},{"speaker":"[Daniel Dumas]","startTime":2738.218,"endTime":2743.783,"body":"connect with. What you just did for me in the"},{"speaker":"[Daniel Dumas]","startTime":2743.963,"endTime":2748.667,"body":"next 20 minutes. 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Thank"},{"speaker":"[Lindsey]","startTime":2774.125,"endTime":2774.306,"body":"Thank"},{"speaker":"[Daniel Dumas]","startTime":2774.138,"endTime":2775.578,"body":"you."},{"speaker":"[Lindsey]","startTime":2774.326,"endTime":2774.951,"body":"you so much."},{"speaker":"[Daniel Dumas]","startTime":2775.598,"endTime":2781.5,"body":"That was very, very helpful."},{"speaker":"[Daniel Dumas]","startTime":2775.598,"endTime":2781.5,"body":"And I will appreciate my free coaching."},{"speaker":"[Lindsey]","startTime":2780.505,"endTime":2780.89,"body":"You're welcome."},{"speaker":"[Daniel Dumas]","startTime":2781.54,"endTime":2784.241,"body":"Another one next week and maybe"},{"speaker":"[Daniel Dumas]","startTime":2781.54,"endTime":2784.241,"body":"another one the week after that. 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