{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"startTime":0.17,"endTime":1.19,"body":"Action action."},{"startTime":1.19,"endTime":10.327,"body":"All right good now hit this red button here And I'm gonna push this one up here Now we're"},{"startTime":1.19,"endTime":10.327,"body":"recording Does it keep zooming out like that?"},{"startTime":10.327,"endTime":11.938,"body":"Yeah, that's like the active."},{"startTime":11.938,"endTime":17.161,"body":"It's the You like it I feel like yeah, okay"},{"startTime":21.152,"endTime":22.165,"body":"stairs."},{"startTime":26.667,"endTime":29.29,"body":"of sound for phones."},{"startTime":34.424,"endTime":35.648,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":38.633,"endTime":39.894,"body":"All right, you ready?"},{"startTime":39.894,"endTime":40.485,"body":"I'm"},{"startTime":46.219,"endTime":49.73,"body":"Hey everybody, my name is Danny Dimas and this is the Earn Your Title podcast."},{"startTime":49.73,"endTime":52.87,"body":"I'm here in studio with one of my favorite 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skill."},{"startTime":475.247,"endTime":476.767,"body":"So can you speak to like,"},{"startTime":476.843,"endTime":485.765,"body":"what maybe like, if your kid has a problem here, maybe he's a superpower somewhere else,"},{"startTime":476.843,"endTime":485.765,"body":"like the balancing of that, maybe he's just not gonna be good at math and that's okay."},{"startTime":485.765,"endTime":486.745,"body":"Yeah, for sure."},{"startTime":486.745,"endTime":491.307,"body":"And I think the reality is not every kid is an A student and that's okay."},{"startTime":491.307,"endTime":495.068,"body":"Like I think we, like A has become the average and it's not."},{"startTime":495.068,"endTime":496.808,"body":"Like C's get degrees."},{"startTime":496.808,"endTime":505.389,"body":"And I'm not saying that kids shouldn't try their best, but I do think, and I see this a"},{"startTime":496.808,"endTime":505.389,"body":"lot in this school, we'll have families who they 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brain."},{"startTime":573.387,"endTime":576.128,"body":"She thinks in math terms."},{"startTime":576.128,"endTime":577.258,"body":"She does really good in math."},{"startTime":577.258,"endTime":584.91,"body":"Whereas my boy Eli, he's really good with language and he can read better than Finley can,"},{"startTime":577.258,"endTime":584.91,"body":"but Finley does better in math."},{"startTime":584.91,"endTime":590.772,"body":"So if I compare the two, they're both doing well in school."},{"startTime":590.772,"endTime":592.05,"body":"One has a strength."},{"startTime":592.05,"endTime":595.361,"body":"in one area and a weakness in the other and the others vice versa."},{"startTime":595.361,"endTime":598.402,"body":"I can't look at that and say I did better for Finley or did better for Eli."},{"startTime":598.402,"endTime":599.412,"body":"They're just individual kids."},{"startTime":599.412,"endTime":600.792,"body":"And they're going to be different people."},{"startTime":600.792,"endTime":601.432,"body":"Exactly."},{"startTime":601.432,"endTime":601.982,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":601.982,"endTime":602.512,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":602.512,"endTime":606.653,"body":"It is okay if your kid gets Cs in high school."},{"startTime":606.653,"endTime":608.304,"body":"He can go be successful."},{"startTime":608.404,"endTime":613.325,"body":"And even in like, you know, it used to be like going to college was the standard for"},{"startTime":608.404,"endTime":613.325,"body":"success."},{"startTime":613.325,"endTime":615.526,"body":"Well, I think we realize it's not."},{"startTime":615.526,"endTime":621.684,"body":"Like a bunch of us in our generation have huge student loans for degrees that we're not"},{"startTime":615.526,"endTime":621.684,"body":"using."},{"startTime":621.684,"endTime":633.331,"body":"And I think we can encourage our kids, hey, if you are not college material, that is 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process."},{"startTime":1482.22,"endTime":1484.282,"body":"have parents who are in denial."},{"startTime":1484.282,"endTime":1485.893,"body":"They don't want their kid to be identified."},{"startTime":1485.893,"endTime":1491.927,"body":"Maybe they, like I said before, they were in special education, they felt like there was a"},{"startTime":1485.893,"endTime":1491.927,"body":"stigma around that."},{"startTime":1492.828,"endTime":1496.871,"body":"And for those parents, I would just say, open up your mind a little bit."},{"startTime":1496.871,"endTime":1498.973,"body":"It's okay for your kid to need help."},{"startTime":1498.973,"endTime":1500.754,"body":"That's not a death sentence."},{"startTime":1500.754,"endTime":1502.375,"body":"We want to help them."},{"startTime":1502.375,"endTime":1505.357,"body":"And in general, schools want to help."},{"startTime":1505.357,"endTime":1512.73,"body":"So if you get called into an office and said, hey, your kid's struggling, they're 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little note that says I want my kid to be evaluated or"},{"startTime":1542.904,"endTime":1545.366,"body":"I want my kid, I need a meeting."},{"startTime":1545.366,"endTime":1551.63,"body":"If it's put in writing, they are required by law to respond to that request in writing."},{"startTime":1551.63,"endTime":1559.278,"body":"And if you feel like the school is not listening to you, you can write that letter and"},{"startTime":1551.63,"endTime":1559.278,"body":"remind them you have to respond to my letter."},{"startTime":1559.278,"endTime":1560.899,"body":"and that is something important."},{"startTime":1560.899,"endTime":1562.98,"body":"So we have to be an advocate for our kids."},{"startTime":1562.98,"endTime":1565.401,"body":"We know our kids better than anybody else."},{"startTime":1565.401,"endTime":1568.773,"body":"And if you want your kid to get help, make sure that you go after it."},{"startTime":1568.773,"endTime":1574.606,"body":"Don't let them, don't let it be eighth grade and all of a sudden say, man, I wish I would"},{"startTime":1568.773,"endTime":1574.606,"body":"have done this or this."},{"startTime":1574.606,"endTime":1577.918,"body":"Start it when they're young and allow that process to take place."},{"startTime":1577.918,"endTime":1585.832,"body":"just, I think your job is to ensure they're getting an education, which also means you"},{"startTime":1577.918,"endTime":1585.832,"body":"have to be educating your kids."},{"startTime":1585.832,"endTime":1586.402,"body":"Sure."},{"startTime":1586.402,"endTime":1588.433,"body":"I think sometimes people"},{"startTime":1588.433,"endTime":1593.534,"body":"I go to work, I my kids to school, when they come back from school they should be smart"},{"startTime":1588.433,"endTime":1593.534,"body":"educated."},{"startTime":1593.534,"endTime":1595.515,"body":"That's not really how it works."},{"startTime":1595.515,"endTime":1596.985,"body":"The parents have to be involved."},{"startTime":1596.985,"endTime":1602.137,"body":"Like if your kids don't understand how a credit card works when they graduate high school,"},{"startTime":1596.985,"endTime":1602.137,"body":"you failed."},{"startTime":1602.137,"endTime":1604.978,"body":"want the, it would be nice if the high school did that."},{"startTime":1604.978,"endTime":1611.399,"body":"But you need to teach, like my, Alison's here visiting from Ohio, my nephew who is, how"},{"startTime":1604.978,"endTime":1611.399,"body":"old is Eli?"},{"startTime":1611.399,"endTime":1612.09,"body":"He is seven."},{"startTime":1612.09,"endTime":1612.9,"body":"Seven."},{"startTime":1612.9,"endTime":1617.628,"body":"He helped me make breakfast and he, we had to combine something."},{"startTime":1617.628,"endTime":1621.65,"body":"to doubling the recipe and I would ask them, here's the recipe, now double it, what is"},{"startTime":1617.628,"endTime":1621.65,"body":"that?"},{"startTime":1621.65,"endTime":1622.97,"body":"And they had to use math."},{"startTime":1622.97,"endTime":1624.751,"body":"You have to be involved as well."},{"startTime":1624.751,"endTime":1626.852,"body":"As dads, this is our job."},{"startTime":1626.852,"endTime":1628.072,"body":"Educate your kids."},{"startTime":1628.072,"endTime":1631.604,"body":"If their high school's not gonna give them the hands -on stuff, that's on us."},{"startTime":1631.604,"endTime":1632.955,"body":"We have to do that."},{"startTime":1632.955,"endTime":1635.986,"body":"And I think it's important that it's not a separate thing."},{"startTime":1635.986,"endTime":1637.786,"body":"You should be constantly educating your kids."},{"startTime":1637.786,"endTime":1640.218,"body":"Now when they become teenagers, they might not wanna listen to you."},{"startTime":1640.218,"endTime":1641.258,"body":"You have to keep doing that."},{"startTime":1641.258,"endTime":1643.359,"body":"But it is important that we are involved."},{"startTime":1643.359,"endTime":1646.152,"body":"Well, and I think even in education, we talk about like,"},{"startTime":1646.152,"endTime":1647.302,"body":"collaborating with the parents."},{"startTime":1647.302,"endTime":1648.613,"body":"Like we are a team."},{"startTime":1648.613,"endTime":1656.614,"body":"No decision gets made without the parents and the district and the teachers and the"},{"startTime":1648.613,"endTime":1656.614,"body":"intervention specialists coming together and making that decision."},{"startTime":1657.215,"endTime":1661.646,"body":"you need to be an active participant in your child's education because it's important."},{"startTime":1661.646,"endTime":1663.076,"body":"That's awesome."},{"startTime":1663.076,"endTime":1665.987,"body":"Well, this has been the Earn Your Title podcast."},{"startTime":1665.987,"endTime":1669.578,"body":"This is my sister Allison, and I'm so happy that you guys joined us."},{"startTime":1669.578,"endTime":1670.668,"body":"I can't wait to talk to you later."},{"startTime":1670.668,"endTime":1671.898,"body":"Have a great day."},{"startTime":1672.898,"endTime":1673.338,"body":"Good."},{"startTime":1673.338,"endTime":1674.699,"body":"Is that okay?"},{"startTime":1674.699,"endTime":1675.819,"body":"Yeah, it's good."},{"startTime":1677.863,"endTime":1679.103,"body":"How long did we go?"},{"startTime":1679.103,"endTime":1679.713,"body":"27 minutes."},{"startTime":1679.713,"endTime":1681.283,"body":"What's your target?"}]}