Tucker & Thompson
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Tucker & Thompson
Exploring Media Narratives, Dietary Debates, and Generational Wealth in Modern Life
What if everything you thought you knew about politics, diet, and money was just a tip of the iceberg? We're peeling back layers to reveal the underlying truths in today's whirlwind of media narratives and societal norms. From election day jitters to the controversy of meat consumption, we tackle the issues that shape our daily lives. Platforms like X, formerly known as Twitter, and voices like Joe Rogan are put under the microscope. The debate heats up as we discuss veganism, meat, and the wisdom of top heart surgeons who advocate for diet-based health improvements over medical interventions.
Join us as we take a hard look at the biases that permeate our news sources, reminiscing about the bygone era of reliable newspapers. We ponder the uncanny sameness of local news broadcasts and question the motives behind media agendas. Discussions meander into the realms of religion, politics, and the curious intersection of both, while we humorously imagine Elon Musk in a government role dubbed "The Doge." We also explore the impact of celebrity scandals and the intriguing dance between politics, sports, and music, with nods to famous names like LeBron James and Justin Bieber.
Finally, we challenge the notion of retirement, urging listeners to reconsider the potential for building generational wealth and staying engaged in life's later chapters. Through a critical lens, we discuss how money tests character and the pitfalls of slander in politics. With a mix of humor and insight, we delve into personal beliefs, political ideologies, and the structures of church communities. Whether reflecting on the meaningful moments in our lives or questioning societal norms, this episode is a journey through the complex terrain of modern life.
May God Be with you!!!
all right, tucker and thompson, here we are election day, it is election day, it is election day. So what color do we wear?
Speaker 2:I don't know, I'm not getting into that.
Speaker 1:No, I mean, what do you mean For the Civil War? Like, because I mean, do we have to wear a color?
Speaker 2:For the Civil War. You think I was wondering where that was headed. I'm like what do you mean? Oh yeah, man, I mean I know what color I am. You know what I mean, I know what color I am. I've never done this before. I'm not sure. Hey, I'm with the guys that have the guns if it all goes down.
Speaker 1:If we go shirts and skins maybe I don't know, I'm not sure how we're doing this that might not work out well either.
Speaker 2:That might not work out well. Is Trump winning or what are we doing? How do you keep track today? I mean, I feel like they're setting you up for election interference. To be honest, you think you know what I mean. I'm like in the mainstream media. If you go to X and you do a poll there and you look at the polls, it's not even a question.
Speaker 1:I get that, but isn't it more apt that you're on X, if you're leaning right or no? Is left really about X or no? They were. They were before Elon bought it, but are they now?
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't know. I mean the propaganda's still there. I can tell you that the left is yeah, oh, okay, I didn't know that I don't go on X still, I still don't want to. No, I'll go there to look for what I believe to be probably the most honest news I can get.
Speaker 1:That's what a lot of people are saying. Everybody goes, yeah, that's the only place to go for your. But I stayed clear of it because I just worry that it's just I don't know. I don't like any of it. How's that? I don't trust any of it, but, yeah, I think I don't trust any of it. But right, and I don't think I know that he's not editing anything that I get.
Speaker 2:Right, that's what I feel. I feel like yeah.
Speaker 1:But I don't know if the left is going there to to bitch, and the little bit I've seen it don't look like they are. I don't know, I don't know, I really don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I mean, maybe it's my safe place. I just go there make myself feel good, rather than like CNN or Fox news.
Speaker 1:Well, the thing that scares me about that is that I've never liked these. Are Rogan I go to.
Speaker 2:Rogan. I feel like I get better news from Rogan. Oh, I agree A hundred percent.
Speaker 1:It's definitely straight down the middle. I agree with that. He Straight down the middle, I agree with that He'll talk about. In fact, I listened to him talk to people about eating that are vegans. You know what I mean that, john Joseph. He talked with him about being a vegan and all the great things about being a vegan. Then I heard him last night telling Elon Musk that they were talking about how meat's good for you and that vegans just kind of push it a little bit too much. But you know, I think there's good and bad in both. I think that limiting the amount of meat would help you. Why? Why we were much healthier as a country with when we ate less meat.
Speaker 2:According to who.
Speaker 1:The facts, the state, the facts. It's just a fact.
Speaker 2:I got to see those facts. Watch forks over knives.
Speaker 1:Evolution teaches otherwise, forks Over.
Speaker 2:Knives. Evolution teaches, otherwise Forks Over.
Speaker 1:Knives. Watch it Forks Over Knives, forks Over Knives. Who wrote it? Who produced it? It was the heart surgeon at the Cleveland Clinic that invented the bypass surgery.
Speaker 2:You lost me. You lost me. You lost me. It's over, forget it. He invented bypass surgery. I don't trust a thing you're saying.
Speaker 1:medical industry like sorry, you know the problem with him is is that he doesn't treat um, he doesn't believe in treating things medically with surgeries and stuff anymore. He believes in treating it with a diet. Correct, yes, and that is. And I I know, when I was a kid I know you ate different than I did, probably growing up, but I grew up with my grandma was like, no, probably not my grandma, like everything we ate was like from scratch. That's how I grew up. Like we didn't buy store-bought bread. Like I went to your house you guys had wonder bread and I was like, ooh it was soft.
Speaker 2:I was like that's nice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I never grew up with that. I had only homemade bread. Growing up, I ate um. Everything we had was homemade, that there was literally my grandma's pies and whatever it was like, even jelly jams. All that my grandma made it all herself.
Speaker 2:Well, then that's definitely better.
Speaker 1:It is better. But it's got nothing to do with meat. We ate very little meat. A lot of times we didn't have meat. A lot of times when she would make dinner the meat was just seasoning the beans or things like that. I mean she was feeding a big amount of people. They say in that documentary. It says that the average person in the United States eats a hundred pounds more meat than they did in 1920.
Speaker 2:I mean we're just eating more food period than we did in 1920, because there's more food available.
Speaker 1:I don't know if that's true. I don't know if that's true. I think that you ate a lot of food when you came off the farm working. You come off the work, you know what it's like. After a hard day's work, you need to regenerate yourself. So I don't think that's true.
Speaker 2:I think that we're eating worse food. I really don't have much to say here, I'm just making an argument, but I do believe. I mean I eat according to what I believe.
Speaker 1:Evolution teaches Cavemen ate meat, yeah, but it doesn't mean that's all they ate.
Speaker 2:No, and it's about limiting. That was definitely the center of the plate.
Speaker 1:I don't think it was the center of the plate. What do you think they ate? Not to the size portions it is now. No, not a. I mean. Well, think about it. Just economics in general kept you from you know what I mean, just constantly feeding on just pure meat. Economics kept you away from that. Well, at some point. Much cheaper to fill you with beans, I'm saying, if you're a, caveman?
Speaker 2:No, I mean a caveman. Yeah, I guess we're talking about basic diet. As a caveman, I'm going to go kill an animal, I'm going to eat that animal and then I'm going to raise some, some vegetables. You know I'm going to, yeah, that's what I'm, that's going to be my diet. So the center of my diet is going to be the animal, and then whatever else I can you think? Well, I mean I would, I mean you're right, I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 1:The thing when you bring somebody from another country into this country the Bible tells you that we ate frickin' meat. Yeah when? What does it say? We just had big-ass plates of meat. It says that in the Bible, but it lends itself to the evidence of meat as I'm not saying we didn't eat it.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying it doesn't need to be so ridiculous like it is now. No, it's not. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying I'm not saying we didn't eat it. I'm just saying it's not the center point. Like you're not eating like a one pound steak at dinner. You know what I'm saying? I am yeah. Well, you shouldn't be. It's not good for you. It's better. No, I believe it. It's better for you to try some other. First of all, vegetables are always good for you, but it's better for you to limit. Nothing that's not in moderation is good for you, period.
Speaker 1:And meat is included in that. That's all I'm saying. I don't buy into the forks over knives where you eat vegan. I don't believe that. But I do believe that you could benefit by knowing some of those things, what's?
Speaker 1:a vegan Vegan is. They won't eat any animal-based products whatsoever. So what are they eating? They're eating beans and tofu and things of that nature, and they're very healthy, very strong. I know plenty of vegans that are not healthy. I know plenty that are strong. I know that work out every day and like one's an MMA fighter actually John Joseph, the one that was on I mean, there's plenty of it. You just got to eat. You know the right proteins and things like that. Now, I'm not saying that I would want to go that extreme, I'm not even saying that, but I'm saying that you know, hey, put a little more broccoli on your plate, Maybe have a meal without it.
Speaker 1:Like I said, I grew up without me. We had, like my grandma would make, pork chops. I remember that, um, the Bible says we shouldn't eat pork. Yeah, so it says that I don't know, but we would have that and you don't eat pork at all. Not much, no, no bacon no sausage.
Speaker 2:Bacon, no sausage. I love bacon, but no, I don't. I don't eat breakfast that much, but I love bacon. Bacon's delicious, but it is absolutely.
Speaker 1:Turkey.
Speaker 2:Bacon's not bad either, though, actually it's not bad, you can deal with it. I try to. So today, my diet consists of things that are is as least amount as processed as possible, so I just try to remove the process.
Speaker 1:Well, that's a key thing to be in this process. That's getting rid of the process, or seed oils.
Speaker 2:I try not to eat seed oils.
Speaker 1:But plus, not only that, when a caveman was eating the meat that they were eating, it wasn't injected with growth hormones and steroids either.
Speaker 2:So that's a whole other thing, and I do travel far distances to get my beef from a farm. Yeah, that helps.
Speaker 1:That's a big difference, yeah, difference, yeah, that's a definite big difference. But I still think that you could take. If you could take, if you take a little, take meat out of your diet, try and take. If you had to take a hundred pounds of meat out of your diet, be easy, you could do it 365 days. It's only like what? Four ounces a day or something, three ounces, that you could take out of your diet every day. I think that's a doable thing and it'd be better You're making me uncomfortable.
Speaker 1:Move the conversation along, not when it's something you like. Back to the polls.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying how did we get there? You asked me what a vegan was. That's not how we got there. We got there because your boy, rogan, was interviewing some veganists.
Speaker 1:I said he did both sides. He said the one time he was saying the things that are good about me, so it was news.
Speaker 2:We were talking about news, yeah, yeah, yeah. Where do you get your news source? We're live, right, that's what it was.
Speaker 1:Where does?
Speaker 2:everyone get their news source. I want to know when do you? Might be probably the best thing going regionally. To be honest, probably the most honest thing going regionally, I think.
Speaker 1:So we're going to cut it to you straight. Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's the way I like it.
Speaker 2:I'm going to tell you when I'm making stuff up and I'll tell you when I know things. I'm always making up stuff, so that's good You're an antagonist too, I watched you do that to Guido on the show. Guido got the ticket.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah, and you were just razzing him Yesterday when I had the prosecutor on here. I'm like, so if a guy's in a cement truck?
Speaker 2:Is that what he was? In a cement truck?
Speaker 1:Oh, that's right, he didn't get a ticket. The guy in the neighborhood yelled at him. Oh the guy, yeah right, that's what it was for going fast. I've never seen Guido go over like 10. He's like he's a grandma when he drives. Yeah, it's pretty bad and you were just giving him the business. Oh for sure, I was definitely giving him the business he was replying like no no, well, it's funny too, because Guido's Guido will play along.
Speaker 1:So if you're doing that, he'll go. What do you mean? Like? I'll just say like I didn't do that, you know, I'll do silly shit, he's pretty funny, he is funny, but uh, yeah. So I mean, that's, that's all I was saying. News source twitter. I'm not, I don't, I don't follow it. I just think that it's maybe one-sided too much. Where do you get it? Where?
Speaker 2:do you go for news? I take in everything, really. I mean, you're one of those. You go from cnn to fox news, to newsmax, to to MSNBC.
Speaker 1:I do a lot of online searches. I'll go to the internet page and I'll put up the news. Whenever you go to your opening graph, it's got the news and then I'll click on the news button. I'll go look through all that. I watch Fox News.
Speaker 2:It's hard for me to watch any mainstream news or whatever. I watch Fox News.
Speaker 1:I watch it's hard for me to watch any mainstream news or whatever I watch, I just, I just, yeah, I can sniff the propaganda out of it. I agree I can too, I can too.
Speaker 2:It's what I don't like.
Speaker 1:What I don't like about Twitter, though when I go on there, is it just doesn't seem user friendly to me, really, like I don't. I can't't see like just scrolling through there and like looking for news on that. I don't even understand how that would be. Even that just doesn't, I don't know. It just doesn't seem comfortable to me, like it's just not any.
Speaker 2:I don't know. It's not an easy source. I don't think any of them are. I don't think there's anything that exists that is that's going to give you what you're looking for.
Speaker 1:honestly, my news has always been the newspaper. That's my thing. But that doesn't exist no more. No way, that's gone. But that's my favorite dude. There was nothing to me better than getting up in the morning, having my coffee, my newspaper. I don't understand why they can't.
Speaker 2:Just why can't there just be a news channel that gives you news anymore? There can be. There isn't, though. No, there's not, and all I'm saying is I just want to listen to you without you telling me what to think. Yeah, I just want you to tell me A guy murdered his wife in so-and-so.
Speaker 1:I feel like the local's not bad Like Fox 8. I like Fox 8. I think they're not bad.
Speaker 2:They're still full of propaganda A little bit. Did you see that clip on Joe Rogan where they all show back?
Speaker 1:They run back the clip of what oh, of all the different news sources, and they're all saying the exact same thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I saw that yeah.
Speaker 1:But the story is all the same. I mean, we could probably pull that off, Because that video clip that you're talking about there's what like 30 in there. Yeah, Okay, how many local news channels are in the country?
Speaker 2:I don't know, but don't you find it 3,000?
Speaker 1:Astronomically insane. So you found 10% that had the same exact thing wording at different times.
Speaker 2:There's no coincidences. I mean, come on man, when did?
Speaker 1:that come from. There's one thing to say it's not a coincidence, but to say that in pure numbers, that to show 30 doesn't, you know, compare. It's 10%. Maybe I don't even think it's 10%, it's probably like 5%, which it's still. It's alarming. It's 2%. I said it, that's what it is now.
Speaker 2:Now you know, and now everyone knows the percentage.
Speaker 1:But you see what I'm saying. Like, I mean, there's so many, you're going by that, but for you to put that out there and show that, and there is, it's about 30. Maybe even if it's 100. It's nothing compared to all the local news channels in the United States. The problem is.
Speaker 2:They're all a part of the same systemically broken.
Speaker 1:They are the same part of the network.
Speaker 2:They are all part of the network, it's just they are all part of the network dictates the news, rather than the news just speaking for itself and what we need today and I think thank god for the internet and things like this, because you actually get, you actually get from the place reporting, you get you can hear somebody that's actually on site.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, right, right, that's giving you play-by-play.
Speaker 2:That's why Rogan is so important right now, because he's just yeah, rogan is Like.
Speaker 1:podcasts to me are the new talk show.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so when you do your news channel, who's going to give you the news? Are you just going to trust the major networks to give you your news, or are you just going to?
Speaker 1:I just don't watch I never did, though I guess that's probably my problem. I want to just read it, like I like that, like I loved my newspaper, dude, I loved my newspaper. That was my favorite thing in the morning.
Speaker 2:I wish we could go back to the newspaper, because it wasn't so sensationalized then, because everyone didn't get instant gratification, right right. So you actually had to have an art form of writing and communicating. You were a broadcaster, so you were a reporter. So, that's why.
Speaker 1:I guess I click on the news channels, like I do, and just read them. I don't even usually play the videos. I usually read the article, I agree, I like it that way. I don't even usually play the videos. I usually read the article. I agree, I like it that way. I don't know why that's my thing. But yeah, the news channels, I'll put them on, like right now, especially with elections going on. I want to see the updates. Who are you going to?
Speaker 2:watch. I mean, I guess that's why I was going in this. I'm watching Fox News. I don't know what you're talking about. Well, I mean there's still, you know, and what I picked up from fox news, this is what I discerned as I listened to them briefly the other day. I'm like, oh, they're just telling you it's close because they want you to tune in, and I think that's what all of them I think that's wonderful for them to do you that they want you to tune in.
Speaker 1:They could do is to tell you it's close.
Speaker 2:It's so close, razor thin they say good, but that's good, then you'll go out and vote.
Speaker 1:What if they said? What if they're sitting on air and they say, oh, we got it, it's a landslide, and then nobody goes and votes and you lose.
Speaker 2:So I think it's the best thing they could do?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a brilliant point.
Speaker 2:But as I look at that and then I go to actually like what I love about X is that you go there and it's just a bunch of people that are voting online that are telling you who they're voting for he was.
Speaker 1:Well, you know what he was talking about. Um, yeah, that's what originally brought this up. You said that that they polls on x and the polls on x do late, say they seem.
Speaker 2:They seem more accurate to me Once again.
Speaker 1:I don't— but you have no clue. I have no idea. If it is, you hope they are.
Speaker 2:In this case I do hope they are. In other cases I don't care, but in this particular one I feel like the safety of the globe depends on it, which is weird, because I've never felt this kind of tension going into an election.
Speaker 1:The last one. Even I'm like, oh, whatever. Well, I talked about that with Guido this week because I feel like Kamala is bad what they did with Ukraine, especially as the one that keeps and out of her own mouth. So I heard her tell me the story. She went on air and she said what she did. She said she went to Ukraine and she told Zelensky don't worry, we got your back, never talked to Russia, never talked. Well, I said isn't? I told Guido. I said isn't that the same as when you're in a fight in the bar and a guy comes up to you and tells you that Howard is running his mouth to you and you tell the little guy over here you know what I mean, oh, don't worry, I got you. Then he's going to go fight Howard. Right, if you go, I'd watch out. Howard's pretty tough. He go, oh shit, and he started mining his P's and Q's, wouldn't he? You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:And that's what she did. I mean I'm trying to I guess that's oversimplifying it when you're talking world, you know domination, but I still think people are people and they react the same way. I mean it's the same type of situation. I mean you antagonize that to go on by telling them I got your back. You basically told them go ahead, go to war with Russia, I got your back. And that's the worst case scenario.
Speaker 2:Trump wouldn't have done that. Just look at the last four years and what's occurred. That's what's mind-blowing to me. I can't even believe. When I see one Kamala yard sign, I'm like have you been alive for the last four years, have you not?
Speaker 1:participated in the society. The thing that sucks about that is to me. I was just telling my wife today is that I see more Kamala signs than I ever seen Biden or Clinton back in the day. Yeah, I mean, I don't know that that scares me.
Speaker 2:I think that's intentional, I think that that's where the good majority of the money went. But I don't understand how anyone could live in the world today that we're in and have experienced the last four years and say to themselves that's a good choice. You know, when you understand, when you have so much information about the industrial war complex you have so much information about, I mean, just pick immigration.
Speaker 1:Anybody under 30 doesn't have any of that shit. They don't know that. The people under 30, as they're scrolling through their Facebook or Twitter, they see a little comment that Trump said you know, Puerto Ricans are garbage, or they see you know what I mean. That's all they're seeing, that's it.
Speaker 2:I wonder. I mean, I don't know this to be true, but I wonder. If they're, I wonder do they pay attention to that? Because if they're not paying attention to the other stuff, are they paying attention to that? Did you when you were 24?
Speaker 1:No, okay, did you when you were 24? No Okay, not at all. Neither are they, never, neither are they. I mean, I don't ever remember and neither are they. You think, I know.
Speaker 2:But it's so affecting them. At this point they don't know that it's way more than it's affecting them way more. Back in the day, like when we were young, they had it. They're like it broke my heart. Even then I didn't care. I just didn't care. But I didn't. I just liked Bush, and it was my first election. The world seemed to be a safer place.
Speaker 1:He was just such a nice guy and I liked him and he's just as corrupt as they are.
Speaker 2:That though, miss bush, and the little dog, I just, I thought I was just, it was heartbroken. So tell me, I just got this way. Huh, just tell me I got this way because I've gotten older and I'm just I don't know, like how did I?
Speaker 1:I mean it's just, why is it?
Speaker 2:that is it. It's just tell me it's not that important it's just medicate me.
Speaker 1:It's as simple. It isn't that important. You don't think so. It isn't that important when I what tomorrow matter, what happens, life goes on Unless nuclear war comes up. That's the only thing, that's the big problem, and that's Harris, I do remember.
Speaker 2:Now that you say that, I do remember being overtly aware of the Reagan, whoever he was running against.
Speaker 1:The Iran contraband that whole thing.
Speaker 2:I remember being aware of nuclear war. Yeah, yeah, I remember that, I remember that. And so, yes, there are, there are monumental reasons to be concerned.
Speaker 1:That's something I'm. I think that I think that there are smarter people than that. I think that everybody wants to not do that. I don't think there's anybody.
Speaker 2:Arguably the smartest person on the planet right now is Elon Musk. Right now, right, he's pretty brilliant. Maybe not the smartest, but pretty smart he puts some good people around him and he has some great ideas.
Speaker 1:I don't know how smart he is.
Speaker 2:Smarter than the average guy Sucker.
Speaker 1:He said on Joe Rogan that he is top 20 and he's one of only two Americans that are on Diablo, which is apparently a game I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know, but he made a statement the other day that was concerning. He said if Kamala is elected, it will be the last election. Why would he say?
Speaker 1:that. Well, that doesn't mean he's right.
Speaker 2:It doesn't mean he's right.
Speaker 1:They always say that. I've never heard that. Oh God, yes, they always say this it's always gloom and doom. You don't feel that, though you don't remember freaking, the years of freaking. What was his name that died? What was his name? What the hell? Rush Limbaugh? You don't remember him. Everybody was good. It was always gloom and doom. No, I don't remember Rush Limbaugh, really. No, I never listened to him. Oh, everything was gloom and doom. Glenn Beck that's why I don't listen to them. Glenn Beck, runs around scaring the living shit out of you, I think there's a lot to be terrified of right now.
Speaker 1:A really good friend of mine, a really good friend of mine.
Speaker 2:He's religious you think she's competent enough to handle nuclear war conversations.
Speaker 1:I don't think she's going to handle anything anyways, I don't think she's going to handle anything. Anyways, she's a puppet, regardless of what.
Speaker 2:And that doesn't terrify you. Is Donald Trump a puppet? No, God.
Speaker 1:no, he's not a puppet at all. That's why I didn't want him in there. I mean, he's not part of the system. Exactly what I like about Trump is that if you get Trump, you get Elon Musk, you get Vivek.
Speaker 2:Ramaswamy, you get the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you get the best of the best, Like if anybody that I would ever consider for president ends up on that ticket.
Speaker 2:He said he's going to put Elon in charge and Elon's going to cut 80% of the government. You should vote for him, just for that.
Speaker 1:He's going to make him. What did he say? The doge? He's going to make him head of the doge. I don't know what the doge is. That's because Elon just made it up. You know what a dogecoin is, right? No, A dogecoin is like a Bitcoin of some sort.
Speaker 2:I've heard of that, but I've never understood Smurf money. So no, I've never understood that. Yeah, I'm with you, but anyway.
Speaker 1:Dogecoin. He finds it funny, Elon Musk finds it funny to call it Doge, which would be Department of Government Efficiency. But he finds it humorous to call it Doge.
Speaker 2:I never connected those dots.
Speaker 1:No, I'm not saying you're right, but the thing is, just remember my buddy, and he's a religious guy, this guy I know he told me he said that fear is the work of the devil.
Speaker 2:It is. So don't be afraid, yeah, for God has not given us a spirit of fear, but power, love and a sound mind. I agree, well, yeah, you gave it to me. I agree with that.
Speaker 1:However, wisdom is from God, well there's also God helps those who help themselves. So it's up to you to get out there and vote and try and fix things. But I mean it definitely can happen regardless.
Speaker 2:I heard somebody say something. I was like I can't stand when I hear these sound bites and it just drives me nuts. He said Said God's will will be carried out no matter who wins, and while that might be true, it is not true to say that one is either platform is cool with God, I'm telling you you don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1:No, I don't think that's what anybody's saying. One platform. Nobody's saying that.
Speaker 2:One platform professes oh my God. One platform professes Jesus and another platform professes abortion.
Speaker 1:I took you off of the freaking. You weren't even on this whole time, was I it?
Speaker 2:was just me, just you, sitting there talking.
Speaker 1:No, you're with me, but I mean sound-wise but not video-wise. Oh, that's cool.
Speaker 2:That's cool. I mean that would have been weird. You'd just be sitting there talking to yourself.
Speaker 1:Well, no, your voice is there, the voice is there. I, that's what it's like. Well, no, your voice is there, the voice is there. No good, I just noticed. I'm like Jesus. I got to keep paying attention. I could get myself on my game here. This is ridiculous. I got my sound right, but now I'm going to do stupid shit with that.
Speaker 2:You got too much to do. You need another guy in here.
Speaker 1:I do need another guy in there. I do, I do. I don't think anybody's saying that it's God's will and God's okay if it's Kamala, or God's okay if it's Trump. That's not anybody. Nobody's saying that, oh there's a lot of people saying that? No, that would be like saying that God's okay if the kid lives or dies.
Speaker 2:I think you should trust me when I tell you it's in the best interest of our country if Kamala Harris is not our president. That's 100%. No-transcript. Oh, that's 100%. I don't disagree with that. Being spiritually in tune.
Speaker 1:That's 100%. I agree with that. Trust me. I 100%. Just listen to me. I'm not disagreeing with that.
Speaker 2:Listen to me Every spiritual alarm I have is sounding right now. All I'm saying is it's not the end of the world if it doesn't. Oh, the end of the world is near. The return of christ is imminent.
Speaker 1:It is imminent, but but it, but it's it's. The problem is everybody wants to everybody. It may happen in your lifetime. I'm not saying it won't. Oh it will, I know it may. I'm not saying it won't but it. But the odds are most people think they're so important it's going to be in their lifetime and most of you are just a blip along the way is all you are. And eventually it will happen.
Speaker 2:I agree with that, but you're probably every prophecy spoken to confirm the return of crisis as fulfilled. Every one of them, okay. And there were hundreds, if not thousands if you dig deep enough and every one of them have been fulfilled. There's nothing waiting. So what are they? Let's go. There's tons, there's tons. You go through Matthew 24.
Speaker 1:I thought there was only seven signs. No, I've got to stop watching movies.
Speaker 2:You're mixing your stuff up here. You just mixed it all up.
Speaker 1:So what's the signs?
Speaker 2:The Bible speaks of many signs that would trigger the return of Christ, and all of them have been fulfilled. But that would trigger the return of Christ, and all of them have been fulfilled. But what are they? Give me a Bible. I'll walk you through a bunch of them and, if you would like, I'll come back to you next week and I'll just start reading for you. But Matthew 24 tells us of all of the signs that would signify. And be there Wars, rumors of wars. There would be famines, pestilence. There would be signs in the heavens. Have you ever seen? Have you ever seen?
Speaker 2:how it's always been Signs in the heavens, no the wars.
Speaker 1:There's been wars forever.
Speaker 2:Forever. Forever, but none like we have right now. It seems like the world is at war right now. Actually, there are rumors we actually had a war that was called World War I and World War II, but never, but never on the scale of which we see today. How can that be? The entire globe is is now involved in all these wars. Before, when you had a world war, all the superpowers were involved. Now there's war everywhere.
Speaker 1:I don't think that's true. It was the whole world. That's why it's called a world war.
Speaker 2:But I give it to you. Yes, I'm saying yes, that's true, but on the scale of world war it's exponentially worse today. Think of it. I don't think so. There's a war within a war, and then another war next to the war, and then wars within wars and then civil wars. But it's been that way forever.
Speaker 1:We just have better weapons. The Bible says you'd say that.
Speaker 2:But he said there would be massive deception in the end. This is all found in Matthew 24, by the way. He said be careful, because you're going to be deceived. People are going to come and they're going to say it's not the end, or they're going to say, don't worry about it. Signs in the heavens. Matthew 24 tells us there'll be signs in the heavens. Have you ever in your life look at me. Have you ever Like? I've been around for 51 years and I have never seen the Northern Lights as I'm seeing them this year? Yeah, I don't know what that is. What?
Speaker 1:is that.
Speaker 2:That's the government lights.
Speaker 1:First of all, you're wrong about that. I mean not ever. Have you ever 25?
Speaker 2:years ago. I have never seen Northern Lights. 20-some years ago we did, yeah, I never saw.
Speaker 1:I remember it was something I didn't even know about it. My journeyman was the one who was all, and now they're every week.
Speaker 2:Now we see Northern Lights every week.
Speaker 1:Well, no, it was one time. It doesn't seem bizarre to you. It was just one time.
Speaker 2:I mean, it seems like there's cosmic signs everywhere we go. I don't know news. The other day I was just scrolling and it said the moon disappeared. For, like, I don't know they're like we don't know where the moon went. They couldn't find the moon. I'm like what? And I didn't research anything beyond it because, well, if you can't find the moon, I don't know what to tell you to look at it. See, you got to stay off Twitter.
Speaker 1:This is what it is dude. X is not it dude?
Speaker 2:It. Man, it's funny because I I listen to so people. People know where I'm at like in my mind so they'll send me stuff like this one. This one girl sent me something the other day and it was about this cia uh agent that before he's getting ready to die in 1992 he records, like this, 15 minutes of confession about mk ultra, just about everything they're doing, and he talks about how they got this little machine, this little flashy light like in Men in Black, where they flash you and you have a heart attack and it seems like you die of natural causes. He talks about there being this breed of people, alien. He calls them gray people and these gray people now are in the earth, earth and you can tell them because of their eyes. You know there's no, there's no white in their eyes.
Speaker 1:I had the gray people. I had a gray people I walked. I had gray people when I was a kid that used to come after me. True story true story, that's a true, like I, that's a fact, like that's a true story just make a little scary face there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he talks about, he talks about, he predicts a COVID-19. He says, he says in the early or in the 17, 18, 19 years, 20, you know, 17, 18, 19,. He said there's going to be a pandemic of upper respiratory infection and if, if I'm telling you the truth, you'll know it because in in 30 years it'll happen. And then he says the chemtrails, they're raining poison down to reduce the population of the world to 800,000.
Speaker 1:800,000?
Speaker 2:800,000, yes, that's not even yeah that's like I mean it's 8 billion now right.
Speaker 1:I don't know what it is, but it's a lot more than that.
Speaker 2:That's all I know it's $8 billion now, right, I don't know what it is, but it's a lot more than that. That's all I know. It's huge. And then he talks about and then this is the one and he names names. This guy names names. This is the kind of news I read. I listen to, right, he names names, specific names within the organization, and then he says this he says, and the most effective tool we have to control population.
Speaker 1:I don't know, crystal. Who's the guy that did it? She's watching? Yeah, she said I've seen that vid. It's on Facebook. Who's the guy that did that? That's what I want to know. And he says the fluoride that they're putting in our water. Yeah, I heard. Well, fluoride, they say, is bad for us.
Speaker 2:Remember, they used to make us do it when we were kids, yeah, and then I'm like why did they have a squish in our mouth? I think of that as a kid. That was the government I don't trust anybody.
Speaker 1:Well, look at the vaccines back then, our parents with the big blister on the side. I don't know, that's even I saw Kamala Harris said that. She said that Robert Kennedy is a wackadoodle, basically with the vaccine wackadoodle I think it was her. Robert Kennedy is telling the truth. Oh, he's telling the truth 100%. If nothing else, robert Kennedy is looking for the truth and trying to get you the truth regardless.
Speaker 2:Okay, if you're voting for Kamala Harris, I don't understand. Isn't he a better candidate? Yeah, and why didn't you? Why are you not outraged that he was not allowed to be your candidate?
Speaker 1:That's what I told me and Guido had it's so annoying.
Speaker 2:I'm like hey.
Speaker 1:I go.
Speaker 2:I might have got a.
Speaker 1:Democratic vote for me if they had him on a ticket.
Speaker 2:I'm telling you, if Robert Kennedy runs for president, I would be very, I highly like independent.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't have done it on independent Cause it would have been a waste of vote. I know Right. Because then you would have thrown him on that democratic ticket, they probably would have gotten. I think you, I think he would have won. I think he had a lot better chance than she does. I, 100% opinion.
Speaker 2:I mean I don't Okay, and then okay. So, knowing that, how in the world can you say that she has stands a chance?
Speaker 1:to win, because I see those signs and that freaks me out. The signs freak me out my buddy years ago, like when Clinton. They thought I was crazy when I said Trump was going to win, and I did it by signs.
Speaker 1:When I said that I said I didn't count the signs. But I mean, I'm driving down the road and all I see is fucking Trump signs. It can't be anything but that, right. I mean you don't see any other signs. I don't even know what a Clinton sign looks like. And, by the way, dude, who was her VP man? Nobody does. Who was it?
Speaker 2:I don't know, they just did a skit on Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 1:And on Saturday Night Live and they bring out this guy and he goes. I was Hillary Clinton's VP and everybody's like hey, hi, buddy, nobody knew. I wonder who it was. Nobody knows. Oh my gosh, best kept secret in the world.
Speaker 2:But we learned a lot about it. I think it was.
Speaker 1:Tim Kaine, I think, is who it was, or something like that. I think we learned a lot about it, right? No, not at all. I think that's what it was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, but Pence was a waste of air.
Speaker 1:I you know, I liked Pence too I was like when he debated Kamala, I was like wow, what a well.
Speaker 2:I mean I just man and then that way he just stabbed him in the back and I thought that was horrible loyalty tells me a lot about.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, for sure you got no loyalty. You see lebron james tattoo. Did you see that meme that's out there? Huh, they said they there was somebody just like. It's a picture of lebron james with his shirt off and they're just laughing hysterically and at the side of his it says loyalty along the side his side, and then they show all the different teams he's on. It was pretty funny. Yeah, he got none.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the Cavs whooped him up pretty good the other day. That was good to see 8-0, dude. Yeah, they're going to be all right, they're 8-0. Yeah, it makes you want to go buy some season tickets to the Cavs.
Speaker 1:It sure does I mean. I want to go with your, you go buy them.
Speaker 2:Marlon had them when LeBron was here, did he? Yeah, I mean, we were at every game when LeBron was here I had.
Speaker 1:Back then I was doing my construction real big in a company that I was buying most of my material from. We had tickets in the fifth or sixth row, I believe, right behind a visitor's bench. So I would go to probably at least 10 or 12 games a year or something like that, back when LeBron was here. Yeah, when LeBron was here. Oh yeah, that was a golden time. Yeah, we were sitting there, actually my daughter one time. We were sitting there. One time we sat next to Mike Fratello. He was sitting next to us.
Speaker 1:The other time we were there we were like three over from Joe Dumars and my daughter daughter at the time she's maybe 10, 11. I don't know, she's young, she's small and she's got her basketball. She goes over to get Dumars to sign it and she goes over there right while the game's going on. You know it's not a break, it's a game's going on. He snatches her by her shirt and throws her in a seat next to him, just pushes her to the seat next to him and then, as soon as there's a timeout, he signs her ball. He was nice as pie but scared to live with her.
Speaker 2:I mean, joe Newmar is a big son of a bitch. She's a little girl. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:It was pretty crazy, but yeah, it were cool seats and we got to see. It was cool because of the visitor's bench, because we got to see so many different people throughout, you know, while we were there and like Usher would walk past us and stuff like that, because Usher would come across the court and you know he'd come up that side. Usually. Don't talk about it. It was kind of neat. What's that? Don't talk about it why? Because of Diddy, yeah, the whole Diddy thing. It's not his fault. He's like a victim, if nothing else, isn't he? Wasn't he the little boy that was there, he'd be a victim, was he.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, p Diddy took him in when he was like 16 or 15 or something. He's a victim. You can't be mad at him for that. No, no, I didn't know.
Speaker 2:Plus his music, oh my God, I just knew he was. You know what I mean. I'll listen to old school Like I don't listen to any of it today, never. I have like I have. Was that serious radio? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I have them set like old school.
Speaker 1:Yeah, me and my wife were in the car today and I was like, yeah, that's all I listen to anymore, like it's just talk shows. I don't listen because I get in the car with her and it's like she's jamming it out and it's like oh's jamming it out and it's like, oh, this is nice, you know I get back in my car and it's like Joe Rogan yeah. And I'm like, is this because I'm getting old? Or I mean, yeah, you know, getting mad at him would be like getting mad at Justin Bieber.
Speaker 2:No, I wouldn't either. No, I wouldn't. I just heard his name associated with the Diddy scandal and I'm like shh, don't talk about him.
Speaker 1:No, no, he's good. Bieber's going religious now he's singing gospel. Yeah, yeah, it seems authentic too. It definitely does that song. He sings what's that? He sings it a cappella, and it's not a religious song the one where he man what the hell's the name of that song and he's just sitting there singing and he's talking about if, what. It's like that, like if, if you had everything and everybody screaming your name and you were so lonely, lonely. That's it. Oh no, oh my god, this is one of the greatest songs. It's so powerful. When you hear you, you hear that song and you go, diddy was definitely fucking him in the ass, you know it. Like.
Speaker 2:You hear that song and you go this guy, I mean you can tell by that little video they did together where Diddy was with him and he's like tell him what we're doing today, you know, and he's a little kid and he's like we're driving around in his Lamborghini and you can just look in his eyes and see he's terrified.
Speaker 1:I hope not. I hope that's not true. I hope that it comes out that that's not true. I hope it's not. I really do hope it's not true. I mean, first of all, bieber seemed to be a pretty good kid. You know what I mean. But I mean he's I just is telling you something, but he's not. He's not exactly saying that yet, or he hasn't yet anyways, I should say, but he, yeah, lonely. You got to hear this song. Check it out. It is absolutely. I mean it's, it's a, it's a game changer. That song, when I hear it it's like that's the first time. I was like man, this dude's got some pipes Like he can sing. But the emotion that's in it is just unreal?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's unfortunate.
Speaker 1:It's terrible, but I mean a lot of that had to do with just being a rich kid starting out. You know what I mean, like just having everything. He's right having everything, being young, being dumb and just making bad decisions. And he's definitely not doing that today. But I don't know if Diddy touched him. I hope he didn't. I really do. I hope for his sake that he didn't. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know either, but it sort of seems that way.
Speaker 1:I hope nobody got touched. I guess is my guess. I hope nobody ever did. I know they do. I hope that nobody did.
Speaker 2:That's my whole thing. It's just you can tell something is bad there's something bad there? There's no question that evil is there because no one is telling on, no one, everyone just wants to be quiet.
Speaker 1:Did you see that they're saying that? That the DOJ went after him for one reason and one reason alone to get all these people to, to get dirt on them so they can control them, so they could get them to endorse Kamala. And here it is. It's happening isn't it? I guess all the people that have endorsed her are on them party list.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's evil. Evil is worse than we could ever have imagined, and that's what's wrong, because most of us?
Speaker 1:Do they know they're evil?
Speaker 2:and that's what's wrong, because most of us they know they're evil. Yeah, do they when you get to that place.
Speaker 1:You know you've sold out. I mean, I know, did he thought he was evil?
Speaker 2:I know that, but I'm saying, like the others do too they know, they know what they're doing you don't think that they're think they're doing the best for the country you think oprah thinks that gates maybe bill gates. You think bill?
Speaker 1:gates thinks that I think they, I, I think they're arrogant. I think they think I know they're arrogant. I think they think they know what's best for you.
Speaker 2:You're so kind, your heart is so pure. You're like my wife, man, I want, I want. I tell my wife I'm the only dark side you have, man. I just think that there's such an evil that exists within the heart of people that if we were to understand it, it would just frighten us, terrify us. We wouldn't be able to sleep at night.
Speaker 1:But you think that in their minds they're going this is really going to screw them. I got them.
Speaker 2:I think their appetite for, their lust for whatever it is they're after is so enormous that they don't care what happens to people.
Speaker 1:And they don't think that it's better for us or better for them.
Speaker 2:They don't care if you have none. They don't care if they drink your blood. They don't care if they murder your children, send them to war. They don't care because it's all about them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what about that? They said that Trump said Liz Cheney should be lined up and shot. That's not what he said at all.
Speaker 2:Jesus Christ. She should know the effects of wars, that's all he's saying You're going to send my kids to war. Yeah, you should go out there and warn them. Silently. That's what this administration is doing even right now Sending troops to war and they're saying nothing.
Speaker 1:No, there's nobody on active duty anywhere in the country. You keep smoking at reefer son.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:I mean that's crazy, right? That's a crazy thing to do.
Speaker 2:But what's crazy is that people believe that nonsense. Oh, it's nuts. Yeah, it's like you believe that you believe these Cheerios. It's absolutely nuts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but there's people that listen to the blips, that's it.
Speaker 2:And they listen to it. Yeah, they watch mainstream media.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I mean Saturday Night Live's fun, though Not anymore. Oh God they are. I think they're doing a good job this year.
Speaker 2:I think they're doing it both ways. I like the guys that give the news. That's probably the funniest stuff they got. The news guys. They're freaking. Hilarious, yeah, when they tell the racist jokes back and forth. That right, there is gold. That's pretty funny.
Speaker 1:That's one of my favorites. Yeah, that's pretty funny. These guys are funny as shit. No, they're funny, no, but they honestly, I feel like are doing it. I think they're dogging both of them directly. And that's what your job is as a comedian you're supposed to make fun of the candidates. That's what you're, and I feel like they're doing a very good job at it. I haven't really watched it. I mean Trump can be made fun of. I mean dude. He went to McDonald's and French fries to troll somebody Right.
Speaker 2:He's brilliant. That's hilarious. I think you've got to love that guy for that. That's hilarious. He goes and buys a trash truck, puts on a vest, climbs up in a trash truck, plays the role man Did you see him grabbing the handle.
Speaker 1:He did look drunk. They were making fun of him for that.
Speaker 2:It's a long way up?
Speaker 1:No, no, he wasn't even up yet. No, he wasn't even up yet. Like he went to grab the handle and he just like kind of missed. I don't know if he was nervous. I think it was nervous because he saw where the step was. Yeah, so as he's grabbing the handle, he just misses, dude, and he looks like he's drunk. Obviously the man's never drank a day in his life, but I mean, I don't think so. You know, he says he hasn't. He says that because of, or whatever was an alcoholic. He just hasn't ever touched it.
Speaker 2:I always wonder how they turned that guy into a racist.
Speaker 1:Don't you find that odd? That is real odd.
Speaker 2:It's so strange.
Speaker 1:Especially considering. This is the same guy that was at Ellis Island receiving awards. It was like a medal right? Wasn't it like a medal of honor from the NAACP or something Right Along with, like I mean, he was friends with everyone and so he was a politician. He was with Muhammad Ali and, uh, and they love him. Who was the other one? Was it Rosa Parks? Yeah, it was Rosa Parks. Muhammad Ali and Donald Trump all got a medal. That's his company, and now he's racist. Get the hell out of here.
Speaker 1:He's been part of hip-hop culture and I know I loved hip-hop culture growing up. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:And he was always part of it. Yeah, how long has he been married? Do you know how long he's been married to?
Speaker 1:I have no idea. I can't keep track.
Speaker 2:He's had like three wives, right, right, but the one he's with 18 years. He's been with Melania and they keep trying to make him into this unfaithful. I mean, maybe he is, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't be. Maybe I wouldn't want to know what I would be like with $6 billion. I really don't. I don't.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying I'd be able, but I'd probably be wild.
Speaker 1:I'd give Justin Bieber a run for his money, is all I'm saying. I mean, if I'm super rich and what would you do? I don't think money.
Speaker 2:Money affects you like that.
Speaker 1:If I can go hang out with, because you're talking fame too. So it's not, that's not just six billion. So it comes with power, it comes with. It comes with, like you got the, the, the fame of it, like everybody knows don't you think you do something really good with it?
Speaker 2:don't what? You don't think you'd do something really good with billions?
Speaker 1:I mean, would I do?
Speaker 2:something very good. Yeah, what would it do to you? Would it? Would it make you better or make you worse? Like, honestly, do you think for sure it would make you worse?
Speaker 1:oh, it'd make me worse would I do some good things with it. Sure, I do good things with the money I got now, but I do dumb shit too, so I mean I don't know, I mean I just don't you're doesn't money doesn't seem to be money, doesn't move me.
Speaker 2:It's something.
Speaker 1:It's not the money. It's not the money, it's not. It has nothing to do with the money, the actual money, it's just. It's just. I mean I mean now, all of a sudden, jennifer Love Hewitt, it's a possibility. You know what I mean. This is a real possibility. This is a real possibility.
Speaker 2:What kind of person am I going to be? We need to chill, we need to chill, we just no, that's not where I wanted to go. I mean, I'm going to at least go hang out, right, oh?
Speaker 1:thank you, or Jessica Alba. Have you seen Into the Blue? Come on now Into the Blue. You haven't seen that movie? I don't think so. Don't do it. Don Christian at the end of that movie. Oh my goodness, she's beautiful. Clearly we know your vices. Those two women are absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 1:They're absolutely gorgeous and I'm just being a funny guy, but the truth of the matter is that with $6 billion, like the old saying goes, like Tiger Woods cheated on his wife how many times, I don't know, I forget how many. One was too many, okay, but let's say it was 100. Okay. Okay, he cheated on his wife 100 times, okay, and you right? Well, not you, you're a bad example. Let me think of somebody else. I don't know, somebody random, some random guy, just some random ugly guy that comes around that you know, I don't know who he is, and we don't want to put him out there like that.
Speaker 2:I'm glad you didn't use me for the ugly guy. Thank you.
Speaker 1:No, I didn't. No, thank you for that grace. But my point is that he didn't cheat on his wife. Okay, he had zero opportunities, maybe two to cheat on his wife. Tiger Woods had 15 million opportunities to cheat on his wife and he only did it like 100 times, I mean odds-wise he's running good numbers If the other guy does it he might be If that guy had two opportunities to win.
Speaker 1:He's at 50%. He's over here batting three. You know what I'm saying? That's all I'm saying. If the odds are there. What I'm saying, I mean if the odds are there, right? I mean what I'm saying is it doesn't matter if you did something good if you weren't tested. Do you see what I'm saying? Definitely it's easy to be good if you weren't tested, if it wasn't an option. So what I'm saying is what $6 billion would buy me in options then? Now I'm tested constantly. My whole life I'd be tested 24, seven.
Speaker 2:Yes, how do you handle that? It would be the test of what the Bible tells us. Clearly, this is, this is, this is the greatest test of a man's heart. So it's the love of money is the root of all evil, not money, the love of it, and it's not even the money.
Speaker 1:I guess I'm not saying it's what comes even the money.
Speaker 2:I guess I'm not saying that it's what comes with the money. It's the influence, the power, the status, the ego is boosted. But the love of money creates that evil in the world, and so it really reveals what's in your heart. Money really reveals what's in your heart.
Speaker 1:If you've got a box of Twinkies, a box of Ho-Hos and a box of Wing Zings or whatever, what are those little ones, susie Q's? So you got a box, you got three boxes of those. Whatever they're in your house or whatever, get them out. And you didn't eat any of them. You did something.
Speaker 1:But, if you didn't eat any and you never had any in your house, then all of a sudden you haven't been tested, is all I'm saying. You know what I mean? Yeah, okay, that's all I'm saying. Tiger Woods was probably smacking away women.
Speaker 2:So what you're saying is, if Donald Trump cheated a few times, it's cool because he had all that opportunity. I'm not saying that.
Speaker 1:I'm saying he's a better man than you give him credit for Even if he did it a few times, right, yeah, if he.
Speaker 2:And then you give him credit for it, even if he did it a few times, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, if he swatted away 700,000 of them? That's an interesting question. I mean, jesus, cry me At some point. You give in, don't you? At some point? She just said something stupid in the morning. And this girl came along, you know what I mean, and it's just like you know what. Yeah, come here, right. I mean no, no, I'm wrong, no, that's not right.
Speaker 2:That's not how it works. No, no, all right, that just reveals what's in there it just reveals what's in there. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying I give him credit. I think that deserves a little bit of credit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know. I just was wondering. I mean, do you?
Speaker 1:think that there's any, but like does throwing themselves at chris christie I don't know man, no, they're not.
Speaker 1:I promise it's not happening no, just not happening no, it's not happening that's just not happening. So I mean yeah, I see what you're saying so for chris christie to sit there and go, I'm loyal to my wife, oh good, nobody fucking wants you, so what does it matter? Yeah, I mean, you know what I'm saying, like right, that's I mean so and not, and and, by the way, there isn't any out there that are saying that Trump cheated on his wife. That's not like popping up everywhere.
Speaker 2:Isn't it? I thought that was one of their main reasons.
Speaker 1:There's the one woman that he settled out of court with and I'm not a.
Speaker 2:Trump Like I'm ideally. You know, ideologically speaking, I don't support he's settled. I just feel like he's the best candidate to run the country.
Speaker 1:He settled out of court and and has a fatimidly constantly, always denied that anything happened with Stormy Daniels. He's always denied that. Now, whether it did or didn't, I don't know, but he's always just to me, whether it did or didn't, I don't know, but he's always denied it Just to me.
Speaker 2:I'm fascinated with the narrative they place around his life, Because to me he seems like a homebody.
Speaker 1:He just seems like a man that loves his kids loves his, you know, and compared to the person he used to be. You want to know. The measurement of a man is a look at his children, yes, and if you look at his kids, they seem a hundred percent good man, really wholesome, all of them.
Speaker 2:I don't understand how you could look at him and try to demonize that he calls Don Jr wild.
Speaker 1:He goes, he's a little wild, but he's not like what is, because he has a couple beers maybe or something, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they seem very moral. Yeah, what it is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they seem very moral. Yeah, I don't, you know, so I I'm really confused when I hear people he grew up in.
Speaker 2:You know, like don jr, you know him and like I, wonder what's in your comments right now, like is anybody saying anything? It's just crystal on her right now, that's, and she's just like I'm wondering, like because I want to hear why people say these things well, they're not gonna know.
Speaker 1:Nobody knows why they. They say it because nobody's there to to question it and they just want to put a. They just want to put enough of it in the back of your head. It's like JD said yesterday when he was in here. He said I'm going to be exonerated from everything they're charging me with. But they know, if they charge me right now, it's all over the news at election time and then it'll be gone by after the election's over. We definitely got to do better.
Speaker 2:I don't disagree with that. This is not the way to elect.
Speaker 1:They're not doing enough with slander, I think. I think slander should be like and I'm a free speech kind of guy, you're not, what do?
Speaker 2:you want to do.
Speaker 1:But slander has to be controlled. That's always been against the law. How are you going to control it? Well, you don't control it, but you charge people. You start messing with their pocketbooks. All of a sudden people don't want to just say whatever, If it's going to cost you an arm and a leg to tell a lie.
Speaker 2:If they're subjective statements, though, it's not like I'm not saying you're a rapist.
Speaker 1:There's flat-out lies. There's flat-out lies.
Speaker 2:There's flat-out lies but you can say somebody has poor character, that's not slander, but they're not doing that.
Speaker 1:Somebody's a liar. They're actually lying about him. They're actually telling lies on him. They're actually saying he said things he did not say. How do you prove that though? Well, they're recorded. Most of them are recorded I. How do you prove that though? Well, they're recorded, most of them are recorded. I mean most of it's. For instance, they said that he said that you should line Liz Cheney up and shoot her. That's slander. Oh, ok, we're talking about Trump now?
Speaker 2:OK, I thought we were talking about Thomas, but OK.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, JD's a, yeah, that's a possibility. I mean, you know, that's one of those. That's a whole different story. I'm talking about the you said we shouldn't elect this way. I'm talking about Trump. They lie on them. They're flat out lying on them and they're saying he said line that, line up Liz Cheney and put a firing squad. Yeah, that's, that's totally. To me, that's slander. Like that I should, to me, fall under like a lawsuit. I really believe that. I don't see how it can't. At what point? What do you have to say for it to be slander? Because slander is against the law.
Speaker 2:The misinformation. The idea of presenting misinformation is really scary, because anything can be labeled misinformation initially, but then you're tried and but you could sue somebody for slander and it's not stopped, it's not labeled misinformation.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying go and audit and make somebody the police all over the webs. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying file a lawsuit for slander when they tell a lie, yeah, so that they don't keep doing it, because when it comes out of their pocket then they'll stop doing it. I would think.
Speaker 2:Regardless of who wins the election tonight. We got to figure a better way out of. I had this idea. I had this idea. It's crazy. Let's hear it. I want to hear it Now. I'm excited. I had this idea that we should take turns each year Republican, one year Democrat, the next right. So it doesn't matter. We're going to have two options for the Republican year of being a party right, of being the president.
Speaker 1:So what would happen? You run Church of the North Coast right now, right yeah. What if you ran it this year and I ran it next year and then you run it the following year, where that would be destructive? But that's the same thing. But wait, wait, wait, wait. You didn't let me finish.
Speaker 2:Because what would happen then? Ok, so I'm not, I don't necessarily align myself with the, the ideology of the, of the left or the Democrats, ideology of the left or the Democrats, but what would happen is if it were 2025 and we had to elect a president that had to be a Democrat, then what we would have is we'd have the Democrat party would have to present two different versions of Democrats that appeal to both sides of the nation or to the general population of the nation, so you wouldn't get this extreme on this side and extreme on this side, you get somebody in the middle a little bit more, so they wouldn't want to kill the child, you know.
Speaker 1:They'd get a liar. You'd just get a liar. You'd just get somebody who said they're a Democrat and they're not. There'd be a rhino.
Speaker 2:Well, there goes the hope of the world.
Speaker 1:I or not, period, There'd be a rhino Well there goes the hope of the world. I mean just flat out Guido's actually idea is better, but I don't like his idea, His idea is that the presidential candidate that doesn't get elected when you're in a two-party system is the VP. That is not a bad idea. It's a horrible idea, but it's better than yours. It's not a good idea because they'll assassinate them is what will happen?
Speaker 2:The people that want their, the people that you're saying well, yeah, because our government will assassinate the government, but somebody would?
Speaker 1:So right now, like right now, kamala and Trump are running, and if we did what what he says, and say Trump wins or just say Kamala wins, kamala wins.
Speaker 2:Now Trump's a VP and say Trump wins.
Speaker 1:Or just say Kamala wins, kamala wins. Now Trump's a VP. Okay. Okay, you want Trump to be the president and you're a freaking extremist. Yeah, I agree with that. You assassinate Kamala, yeah.
Speaker 2:I just saw that yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I mean that's why it's a horrible idea.
Speaker 2:So mine is better, not really Because at least you get two Republican candidates that Democrat vote. They have to become more like a Democrat to earn your vote. No, because the whole country votes regardless, right? So if you're looking for a candidate, you have to appeal to the whole country, not just a third or a half. You have to appeal to everyone.
Speaker 1:I'm going to give you my unpopular opinion. My unpopular opinion is that President Xi should be eight years. That's my unpopular opinion, but that's my opinion. That presidency should be eight years that's my unpopular opinion, but that's my opinion.
Speaker 2:The president should be an eight-year term. Should be an eight-year term and you believe that would be most effective.
Speaker 1:It would be more effective in the world. We're so involved in the world that the world doesn't know what to do with the United States, because you never know what's going to happen. I agree with that, four years after you never know what's going to happen. I agree with that Four years after you know that's.
Speaker 2:that's brilliant, jim. I agree with that. I mean, I think you're right, I think that I mean eight years is.
Speaker 1:I mean when a president gets elected for for two terms. It usually is the most stable, in my opinion, growing up what I've seen, and it's because that eight-year term, I think, makes a big difference.
Speaker 2:I'm struggling with the idea that if it weren't so corrupt it would be a good idea. But now it's so corrupt because of the military-industrial complex and everybody that's involved in the government is becoming a billionaire. That's the question we should ask ourselves. Why is everyone that goes into the government what we should?
Speaker 1:be asking ourselves is why are people campaigning $300 million for $170,000 a year Exactly?
Speaker 2:How do they raise that much money to secure the position? But can't raise that money to give back to the people they serve.
Speaker 1:It doesn't make sense to me. No, there's $300 million, and why are we fighting with each other? I don't know. Shouldn't we be? Although I went trick-or-treating, I talked about that too. I went trick-or-treating and you know what? There was Harris signs, trump signs, and everybody was nice. Everybody got along. Nobody talked politics, they were just hi, how you doing Happy Halloween trick-or-treat. It was wonderful, it was nice. There was no politics that night and I enjoyed it. I really did, even though I seen the signs you know what I mean and I kind of questioned you know, coming into it and the first couple that had the signs, I was like, oh, they were nice, and all of a sudden, I enjoyed my evening.
Speaker 2:They assume you think like them.
Speaker 1:I doubt it. I think I scream Republican as I'm walking around. I think everybody just knows that about me. You just got to add to vote for Trump, did you? Yeah, dude, he texts me that too. I let's get him, like every that was a funny one yeah, me too that kamala, apparently, is doing the same thing, like she's doing that same thing, like the texts that are going out. So on saturday night live they had she goes. Hold on, I gotta send a text like in the middle of whatever they're doing.
Speaker 1:And then she's like he's like wait, those are actually from you. She's like yeah, yeah, it says this is Kamala and she starts talking that's fantastic, it was pretty good, I mean it was funny. And then Doug, her husband was in the skit with her and he goes can I get off that list? She goes no.
Speaker 2:No, you got to stay on. I wonder I woke up to a Like my wife reading me a text From some, not a post from somebody, because I don't I'm not on social that much anymore, I just go on to post everything she rubbed me. Something from somebody posted. It was something in the in the likes Of this. It said if you vote For Trump, then I don't, I don't want to be your friend Ever.
Speaker 1:It's horrible Right. I lost a friend, the first election I lost so many friends?
Speaker 2:The first one. I lost so many friends. Yeah, the first one. And not even because I lost so many friends, because I I still consider him a friend.
Speaker 1:I shouldn't say I lost him. I shouldn't say I'm with you. I'm with you.
Speaker 2:I don't throw anybody in the trash anymore. Yeah Well, I. It's hard for me, I'm, I'm. I feel conflicted with that. Don't you, though, to some degree like, if you see people that that break off your friendship with you because of you know, political perspectives do you keep? Isn't there a part of you that says I can't really trust you ever again?
Speaker 1:No no. I don't think I. I don't trust people that much, so I don't either. I'm not like, I'm not saying nobody has that much trust it from same, so it doesn't much matter. There's nobody that broke off from me that has any trust in me. I mean, I don't have that. I don't have that with anybody. I don't trust you, I don't trust anyone. That's how I am, dude. I just that's how I am. I feel that.
Speaker 2:I feel that Maybe we can get to that cynicism at a later podcast. Everybody, we'll come back to that reason why me and Jim have trust issues. It's not you, I literally have a sign in my garage.
Speaker 2:I have a sign posted in my garage Jesus and my wife are cool, everybody else, keep your hands where I can see them. Yeah, literally that is. It is a sign on my garage as you walked in. Yeah, so I don't trust anybody either, I agree. But I'm just saying like it's really difficult for me to even like, really difficult for me to even like like I, I, I remove myself from circles and it's like, and I'm like Nope, I was on a radio show before I, before here, yeah, I remember that. Yeah, and I, and because of ideological like perspectives, I'm like oh no, I can't, yeah.
Speaker 1:And I think Mark is somebody that I like a lot. I mean I I I've always, I've always liked to me and him actually were supposed to start a business together at one time. It was called MJS interior and Scotty was involved in getting the two of us connected and it just it never took off because it was just basically, they want to be part of me starting up a interiors company, which I can do on my own. I don't need them. You know what I mean. So that's why it never went off anywhere off the ground. But I mean I, I got to know him during that time a little bit, but he's not, he's a good dude, he's a good person at heart. I think his political views are are, I think that they're. I feel like he feels because it's a race thing. I think that he feels that he has to go along with that because of the race.
Speaker 2:I think that's diabolical and I think it's cowardly and I think nobody should ever do that.
Speaker 1:I agree with you 100%.
Speaker 2:If you allow that confusion.
Speaker 1:For him to be confused doesn't mean that, no, no, no, for that, you know, I do you listen, he's a gentleman.
Speaker 2:Every time you confess christ, then I cannot see a reason why you would be confused.
Speaker 1:Uh, I would argue, because by the political ideology, there was a lot of slaves that were in those slave quarters, that were actual, that believed in jesus and Christ. That's fine. Yeah, of course they didn't probably care for their slave masters and stuff you don't believe, okay, so so you?
Speaker 2:what you're suggesting, then, is that is justified for you for there to be a particular uh mindset, uh uh ideology because of a demographic?
Speaker 1:No, I'm saying that it has to be flexible, so it's permissible for your ethnicity to be associated with your ideology. I'm saying that it's okay to be flexible, is what I'm saying Flexible, flexible. What does that even mean? I mean there's circumstances. He's confused, that's all I mean. He doesn't understand. The gospel clarifies all of that.
Speaker 2:The gospel brings extreme clarity to all of that In your opinion, but he doesn't think that there's no opinion. That's what the Bible says. There is neither Jew nor Gentile in Christ. We are all in Christ. There is neither left nor right, nor up down. There's no donkey, there's no elephant. There's only Christ. There's no confusion there, there's no confusing it. You cannot be this or that and that. You can only be a believer in Christ. I don't profess to be one or the other in this world. That's not my profession.
Speaker 1:But I didn't live his life. I don't know what he dealt with and he's an older guy, we can remove the names from it.
Speaker 2:I'm just. I'm using that as a way of saying.
Speaker 1:He's an older gentleman, that he's lived a life very different than me and you did. Regardless of what happens, we don't know what that was like for him as a kid. Now I don't I get upset with guys like and I'll put his name out there Calvin. You know what I mean. That we grew up with. We loved Calvin to death. He was a good friend. We were good to him just as like we were with Marlon. But for some reason Calvin feels like white people hate him and it's like I don't understand how he could think that after we loved him so much. I don't understand that to me Now. I don't know what Mark's growing up was either, but I don't know that and I don't fault anybody for where they become, what, what led them to, where they're at and how they can. I don't trust anybody either. So if he doesn't trust people based on your relationship, him.
Speaker 2:But if we're in a relationship, then how can you trust that more than you do the person in front of you? Now, there are levels of trust. Now, there are certain people that I trust less than or more than other people, so if I'm in a relationship with you, I'll leave you in the room with a stack of money.
Speaker 1:I feel like with certain people, there's people that would trust Like, not trust, trust, trust. I'm not saying that, but I'm saying like, like, if but, and I guess, we'll go with mark, I guess again I mean I, I trust that I trust that mark is is never gonna, um, do anything to put me in a negative light. I don't think he would do that. I don't believe so. I hope I'm around. I hope I'm right about that.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's how I wanted to believe all of those things as well, about certain individuals, but then the political the, the political ideologies of this world separated. It brought separation. Like I wait a minute, you don't even know those people. You know me. I'm like I, I talked to you almost every other day.
Speaker 1:situation Right. What happened? I'm not saying it's a garden variety situation.
Speaker 2:I'm not using that as particular, I just meant to say like I was there. But because of the political circumstance I'm like, oh, I can't, I can't do that. I can't, I can't align myself with that mentality. When I believe it, it opposes what I believe most deeply in my, in my spirit, like, like I just can't understand how you know we can, we can profess the same Christ and not. But I'm not here's my problem.
Speaker 1:Ok, if I go into a situation with two different people, two separate people, and I don't care what color they are, whatever they are, but maybe they care what color they are, you know, and we're right there with this, and I'm sure Mark doesn't mind me using his name, but if I use him and Tony DiMacchia, okay, okay, there's two people that work in the school district and they're you know what I mean. I think Mark, even with the fact that he maybe feels certain ways about race, I think is a better person than Tony DiMacchia.
Speaker 2:I don't know how any of these people believe or feel. You know what I mean. I just felt the distance and the separation with a lot of people that I thought were really close friends of mine at the beginning of that election cycle. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, and then suddenly like they just fell off.
Speaker 1:Mine was actually a white guy that fell off Like this is interesting.
Speaker 2:Mine was a white guy that fell off, mine was a white guy that fell off, and they fell off for reasons that I could only attribute to political ideology. So I'm like, oh, we're not cool anymore because you think that way.
Speaker 1:I think that you just used it. I think yeah to me. I'd talk to him about basketball or baseball or, you know, the school board. I just won't have other political conversations with them. I guess is how I handle someone like that. I don't cut them out, I just have a different conversation with them.
Speaker 2:I don't, I'm not cutting, I didn't cut any. Well, that's not true.
Speaker 1:You just said you did.
Speaker 2:I was just I, just, I just well, I just was like okay, well then, that then.
Speaker 1:That's that, if we can't align ourselves, but I don't think that everybody's racist, but they certainly.
Speaker 1:I didn't call everybody racist no, I get that, but I did. I said that I felt like in his situation that sometimes he's guided by his race. He feels like he's got to go with his race. I feel like but that might not be true, because it might just be because he's on the school board and he's front of Demacia and they do the whole left side and that's just what they do. That's the, that's the politics of Lorraine. You know? What I mean Is the left. Yeah, I just never understood that's the politics of Lorraine.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean? It's the left. Yeah, I just never understood.
Speaker 1:I couldn't, I couldn't comprehend that that um, I feel like the left is going to die out, though. I think that they've killed themselves this election. I think they've killed themselves Even if Harris does win. Harris had to come in saying very conservative things. She wasn't saying the things she said. She wasn't saying the things she said, trying to go up against Biden.
Speaker 2:But don't you think that's even more terrifying, that she's saying something even though she doesn't believe it?
Speaker 1:Regardless that event. That shows you what America wants. That shows you where America's leaning. That shows you that they're not going to accept it.
Speaker 2:It doesn't mean that just because she says it doesn't mean that she's going to adhere to it.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying she is, but Americans are voting that way and they know it. They know it Well, if they're voting that way, they're certainly not voting for her. I mean, bill Clinton, when he was in office, was what you would call a Democrat back then, and today Bill Clinton would be a Trump guy. I mean 100%. His policies would align exactly with Trump's.
Speaker 2:I mean 100 percent His policies would align exactly with all back then. I mean you hear, you hear recordings of back then. They all said it's exactly marriages between a man and a woman. You can go back and pull clips from Obama saying it. Yes, but not today.
Speaker 1:The left today.
Speaker 2:A girl's a boy, a boy's a girl, that's his right, right Left. They wouldn't do that. It was so confusing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they wouldn't do that. And that's the problem is that they went too far with whatever they're doing and they did it almost in an anti, because trump shook things up. Trump came in and did a republican party and he's not a republican period, he's just not. He was never a republican, not according to what they call him.
Speaker 1:He's still not defined like a republican has been defined for years. It's a Reagan kind of set the standard for what a Republican was. He kind of was the conservative Free market. Free market, that's what a Republican started to come from, and that's where the at least in my lifetime he set the standard. Trump is not that. I mean the markets yes, he is, but you don mean he the markets yes, he is, but, um, you don't think he's conservative, no, his. I think that socially he's very liberal. I think so, I know so.
Speaker 2:I mean I, I mean a hundred percent.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you wouldn't agree with most things that he says. I mean. So what society? Well, I mean, before he was even elected he said that you know, I find his policies to be very men and gay women. That's their business. That's why we have menus at a restaurant. You do not agree with that.
Speaker 2:I would agree that that is their business. It is the free will of every mankind to do whatever they want.
Speaker 1:Just leave me alone and I will leave you alone. That's not the old school conservative view of it.
Speaker 2:You asked me what marriage consists of. I'll tell you it consists of a man and a woman. This was about marriage consists of. I'll tell you it consists of a man and a woman.
Speaker 1:This was about marriage though this is what it was talking about. So yeah, but this is what it was talking about. So I mean, that is a very liberal thought, that's a liberal idea when it comes to abortions. He thinks that you know, abortion it's the right of the state.
Speaker 2:It's the right of the state To determine that's a wonderful idea and I love that brilliant thing for a politician to say but he personally doesn't believe in abortion.
Speaker 1:He just doesn't. But I don't know, stop anybody else. Well, he said it. He said he says I wouldn't choose it. And he's a conservative yeah, he's a conservative, but liberal and almost every idea he doesn't believe in. No abortion, oh, no abortion. Oh well, like that's the conservative ideas. No abortion period, no reason. That's the conservative idea. He does not believe that immigration, immigration, is immigration on a conservative market. Bush said it best we need illegals to do the jobs Americans don't want to do. That was the conservative stance. It was Bill Clinton. That was like we got to put up a wall and get to keep these Mexicans out.
Speaker 2:It was Bill Clinton. That was like we got to put up a wall and get to keep these Mexicans out.
Speaker 1:It was Bill Clinton, okay, but nobody, I feel like it wasn't until this, the last four years, that we said you tell me why. Why are unions, why are unions supporting a candidate that says open the borders, give my jobs? They never did. That's why. That's why you're seeing all the unions and labor jump. That's why they're jumping ship. That's the reason. Because they did it. Because Trump come in the Republican ticket and shook it up and started just doing whatever he thought made sense, and a lot of it is conservative financially and liberal on a social stance. It's how it is, that's what he is, but wouldn't it? Wouldn't immigration be against them? They started calling him racist because he doesn't want Mexicans in the country.
Speaker 2:Well, maybe he wants immigration to be, to be a process where you come into the country and you're vetted and you come through the front door rather than just running through the.
Speaker 1:I don't believe that. I mean he's a contractor, developer you don't believe he wants legal immigration. He wants his drywall going up at 90 cents a foot, but he doesn't want all these people coming through using Mexico to hurt us.
Speaker 2:Don't you believe that the Democratic Party did that intentionally? They opened the borders like that intentionally. I think that they honestly and took them to swing states.
Speaker 1:I don't even think so, I think they did it just because it was anti-Trump.
Speaker 2:It was against Trump, you don't think they had an agenda he forced their hand. No, I think that he forced their hand, do you think most Americans think they have an agenda?
Speaker 1:I believe a lot of people do. But again, I don't believe that people ever are doing things just to be pure evil. I don't believe that to be true. Now, I do believe that they think that after they had to take another stance because Trump took their stance, essentially they'd have to take that stance. Trump took their stance, essentially they'd have to take that stance. They tried to see where they could use it to their advantage and, yes, voting would probably be where they could use it to their advantage. But I think, at the grand scheme of things, trump walked in and was like wait a minute, that's our platform. What are you doing when it comes to that? I mean to immigration. Bush said it we need Mexicans to do the jobs Americans don't want to do. He said it himself.
Speaker 2:Yes, but we need legal immigration.
Speaker 1:No, he didn't.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying he said it. I'm just saying don't you think that that is what he meant?
Speaker 1:No, that's not doing the jobs. Because as soon as a Mexican is legal, he's not working for freaking pennies no more. He wants a paycheck. As soon as he's legal, you've got to pay him Right. So it doesn't matter who we pay to do the job, if we're paying him enough.
Speaker 2:So what you're saying is you think Democrats want illegal immigrants to be here so they can exploit the?
Speaker 1:labor. That's what Republicans wanted originally.
Speaker 2:That's what they wanted, that's our housekeepers.
Speaker 1:That's who was picking our lettuce and our tomatoes. Who what they wanted.
Speaker 2:That's our housekeepers, that's who was picking our lettuce and our tomatoes.
Speaker 1:Who was hanging our drywall? And it still are? I was hanging drywall.
Speaker 1:Yeah but you weren't hanging it for what they are. No, I wasn't. These guys are hanging, hanging. I'm talking hanging hanging. Mexicans have come in my sister where she lives in South Carolina the whole development. You're buying houses at $90 a square foot. Here we're $150, and up In South Carolina she's got a 4,000-square-foot house she bought for $390. And while I was out there visiting her when she first bought the house the whole development the electricians were Mexican. Nobody spoke English. There's no chance. Any of them are getting paychecks. I promise you that's all cash under the table. Yeah, and that's why it's cheaper, because you're paying cash and that's under the table and that's what people want.
Speaker 2:Are you opposed to that? Am I opposed to what?
Speaker 1:Illegal immigration yes, 150 million percent, you don't? Bush pissed me off when he said it. That's how I know he said it. I heard it and I was like this motherfucker. I was like I'm a union carpenter, I want to hang drywall for 25 an hour. What are you talking about?
Speaker 2:So I'm confused by the. I'm confused by the like the union guys too. That doesn't make sense. I'm so confused, right. I'm confused by the union guys too. That doesn't make sense. I'm so confused, right. So that's why I'm confused by the union guys. Always supporting the Democrat Party Doesn't make sense, even though the Democrat Party seems to be stabbing them in the back.
Speaker 1:They didn't used to, though Clinton was about it. No immigration, all that stuff. That was like he was there looking out for them.
Speaker 2:I drove by the UAW over there and there's a Harris thing right out front and I'm like how in the world?
Speaker 1:But they're leaning now Like Teamsters. I think supported, was it Teamsters? Supported Trump.
Speaker 2:I don't think they supported him. I just think they didn't support Democrats.
Speaker 1:So they took that as an endorsement for the other side, because they said 60% of their members were voting and the Carpenters and stuff I know are all going to vote for Trump.
Speaker 2:So then, how does she stand a chance If the unions won't vote for her.
Speaker 1:I don't think she does. Honestly, I really don't think she does. But I'm scared because I've seen the signs. Them signs got you worked up, because I remember I started that conversation earlier on. Jay said to me he was laughing at me because I said Trump was going to win in 2016. I go, dude, I don't see one sign for Clinton anywhere. I see Trump signs everywhere. This doesn't make it. How can you possibly think that we're going to vote in and I'm in Lorain County. If there should be any Clinton signs, they should be here, and I didn't see any. I saw one, I think the whole time Clinton was around. I saw one sign. I see a lot of Harris signs.
Speaker 1:I see almost as much as Trump signs right now, right this minute, today, not where I live, no, well, I'm saying today. Well, not where I live either, but when I drove, I drove down the street to the election board. I seen quite a few, and then I took a different route, heading here, and I went oh shit, that's a lot of signs. And then the roads I don't usually take, but I see them. I go oh, there's a lot more than I thought. You know what I mean. So I'm like it's a little nerve wracking to me that that makes me nervous, because I did not expect that. I did that through me for a loop when I saw it. I mean I seen a couple by me. You know what I mean, but that was it. I didn't know that there was that many. There was quite a bit.
Speaker 2:Do you think the?
Speaker 1:you think the signs, you think they're there because there's just if I saw 20 signs, that's more people than I would expect to meet for Harris. I.
Speaker 2:I would expect to vote for Harris. Yeah, that's how I feel. I know Every time I see them, I'm like what's wrong with them? There's like a couple people in my neighborhood. I'm like you guys okay. Yeah, what's going on? You guys need to see a doctor? Therapist. Yeah, Do you have an identity crisis going on? Do you need some ayahuasca?
Speaker 1:What do you feel about ayahuasca? Going on some ayahuasca. What do you feel about ayahuasca? I don't even know what that is. I'm curious. I mean, it's a what is it? It's like psychedelics, oh yeah, I was curious what you think of it. I don't know. I don't it's it's. My mom did it. She said she's a hippie. Though is it, is it?
Speaker 2:like like a rehabilitation, you drink it, that's it's. It's kind of it's like a it's a spiritual thing, but it's it's definitely like you trip your ass off.
Speaker 1:it's it's kind of it's like a, it's a spiritual thing, but it's it's definitely like you trip your ass off, like it's like, it's like acid. I have some sort of I don't know. I don't, I don't a hundred percent, no, but it's different. They do it like on. She goes there, she had went to Kentucky and there's a group and it's pretty popular. I'm starting after she did it. I had never heard of it when she did it.
Speaker 1:You know it's kind of a beat Nick, like she's in, like she knows all that stuff, like gets into it or whatever. So I go, I guess she gets, she takes it or whatever. And I'm like this is just weird and she's explaining it to me and they, they basically drink it. And then she said after you puke. She said when you puke it's wonderful. She said you're just getting all the hate and anger and bad feelings and all this stuff.
Speaker 2:Anything and resentments. You can come to church with me this Sunday. You can get all that minus the puke.
Speaker 1:She said it's wonderful, but the thing is, I believe her.
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, because it's a person, it's the part of the brain that I mean it's. You're not doing it to party.
Speaker 1:You're not doing it to no. No, she's there in a group, she's puked it up, and then they hang out, and then she comes home and she's just a different person.
Speaker 2:I think you of Jesus and you don't have to trip yourself to do it. I mean, they're drinking a natural substance. God put it there. Yeah, I mean so is. So is apples you can make moonshine from it.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean, but they're not making anything. This is just pure, just what it is. So is marijuana, yeah, and I don't agree, I'm okay with marijuana. I've never been against marijuana.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't do it, but I'm having to be against it. You don't think it's a an entry level.
Speaker 1:I do. I do believe that a hundred percent, but I don't believe that it's as a as its main thing. I wouldn't. I don't want people smoking around here, I don't want my kids to do it, Um, but I don't.
Speaker 2:It's like you said substance abuse anything anything to extremes is just it.
Speaker 1:You, there, you go. That's really bad.
Speaker 2:It's I mean I used to, you know, mess around.
Speaker 1:I never did much. I never really did. I did a little bit, but not a bunch. I drank a lot. I didn't drink a ton. I've never did any Of that.
Speaker 2:A lot I mean well when I say a lot, I mean on the weekends. But then you know, Smoked a little little weed and that freaked me out Like I didn't like that feeling Of being mean either. That's how I it's always made me like.
Speaker 1:Like I was paranoid, like I'm like what Paranoid is what I was. I was paranoid and sleepy. I would like get. I would get, like I would smoke pot, and then I would just want to. I would try to eat the buzz away and when that didn't happen, I just wanted to go to sleep. Just let me go to sleep. So this is over. I want this to be over right now. That's kind of how I felt about it, so I never did like any of it too much. But yeah, I just wondered how you thought about that. I mean, she, she, she used it. I'm just curious what you thought. I didn't know, I don't know it's not, I mean acid.
Speaker 2:I think would be just a. That's a pretend.
Speaker 1:But it's not acid. It's not acid by any or any. My.
Speaker 2:Control. Well, that the, it would be considered a pharmaceutical to some degree. And in that word, in the Greek pharmakia, it means how does it mean? In the pharmakia it's some I'll think of it in a minute but that word pharmakia, pharmakia, so what about? Prozac is demonic.
Speaker 1:What about basically demonic? Same way about Prozac I don't know what Prozac is. Yeah, how can you not know what Prozac is?
Speaker 2:I'm never taking it.
Speaker 1:Was a whole thing when we were like, when we were like 20. It's a whole country kind of. Went on Prozac you don't remember that.
Speaker 2:It's like an antidepressant. No, it's pharmakia.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sorcery, yeah, it's demonic.
Speaker 2:All of it, yeah, all of it. Any mind control is demonic. There's, you're, opening realms.
Speaker 1:I don't think it's healthy for anybody.
Speaker 2:No, you're opening realms into the dark places of the spiritual realm. But lots of people in this country are taking it.
Speaker 1:A lot of people in the world are taking it, but this country specifically. And depression's never been higher. Yeah, I like what Trump said. Did you hear what he said? I didn't hear it. You didn't hear it. Uh-uh, he said it yesterday. He work your ass off. I promise it'll go away. Oh, that's the truth.
Speaker 2:It's true, that's the truth. Everyone needs a meaningful burden. Yeah, literally, if you involve yourself. I tried to tell people that a lot of that are uninspired in the world and who are feeling like nihilism, feeling meaningless. I'll tell them that I'll say look, you have to find a meaningful burden and you have to attack it with all your life. You have to go at it, go find something worth giving your life to and just go, just go as hard as you can. I don't care if it's selling strawberries or you know whatever it is, just go, just go for it. Yeah, a meaningful burden would solve a lot of problems for a lot of people?
Speaker 1:Oh, I, because Reagan said that too. The best social program you can have is a job.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree with. Yeah, I, I agree with that, I agree with that. I remember when I was young and I was, you know, when you're young, you, I mean I never really hated work. I just didn't know. I was just like looking for work that was meaningful. And I remember like when I would be out of work and not working which was rare, I mean I was basically working since I was 15, I think both of us were and not not like sissy jobs. We were going. Yeah, I was hanging drywall, you know, pulling plywood up on a you know. So that's the stuff I was doing. But the times that my life where I felt the least inspired, the least, you know, the least worth, are the times where I was in between work and just kind of god, yes, just kind of just sitting around just waiting for the, you could see how you could get depressed.
Speaker 2:I hated it. I hated that feeling and if, as long as I was getting up and going to work, no matter how meaningless it was, just getting up and going.
Speaker 1:You see it like, it's just like that's why I don't believe in retirement.
Speaker 2:I think retirement's a made-up construct in America from the Matrix. I think the Matrix does that. Oh, it is. It's man-made, it's in the Matrix, it's never in the Bible. On the day that Moses died, he climbed a mountain. He never stopped. No, sir, what killed him was it, was it. It was the end of his life. And what I mean was he didn't stop climbing mountains because he got old. He just kept climbing them until he died.
Speaker 1:And I think that's a philosophy that will bring meaning to a lot of life. I think retirement is a real thing that should exist for everybody, for working for someone else, I believe at a certain age, you should only work for yourself.
Speaker 2:Well, I like that, I like that. But think of it like this. You really don't figure anything out. Until what age? What age do you think? The lights came on, stuff started, wires started touching in your head. I'll let you know, okay, so I'm going to say that that age for me came around 27, 27,. The lights turned on. I'm like, oh, okay, I think I can think a little better, you know. And so so it wasn't until about 25 to 20, I'll give you 25. So 25 lights turn on. So you don't even you know, you haven't, you're not doing anything until 25, 25 lights come on. You start doing stuff. You start, actually, you know working.
Speaker 1:I feel like you're like a dog chasing a car until you're 25. Right, right, I feel like that's who you are, so life's not easy.
Speaker 2:You're just kind of figuring things out. But at 25, 27, for guys, for ladies it's a little sooner and then okay. So now you start building something, you start figuring some things out.
Speaker 1:You start having some children. Did you just say there's a difference between women and men? There is definitely a difference, are you?
Speaker 2:allowed to say that I'll probably be canceled. But there's definitely a difference. They have vaginas, we have penises. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Like that's, like you know all I ever thought of that, it was to have a preacher say vagina. That's it, there we go.
Speaker 2:I said it so. So at 25 you work, and and then so you're saying we're going to work, so the whole retirement ideas, we work from like 25 to what's the retirement age now, 65, 65. Oh my gosh. So we're going to work from 25 to 65 and then we're just going to call it a day and we're going to hang it up, no matter what.
Speaker 2:we do my job when I was 20, you, the car unions, carpenters, 20, 20, 65, you keep going, you keep going, and so the so what the world, this idea that's being sold to us by the matrix is you get to a certain place and now they want you to work until you, you know, until it's over, because they don't want, they don't want you not, not working, because you're not contributing. But you get to that 65 year old and you, okay, let's go down to Florida, get a condo and drift, drift off into whatever. But you think about, like, if you live, you consider, like, what you gave up, you got 25 years, the first 25 years, nothing, that middle part, what 40 years? 25, 40 years, take 35 years, so 35 years you're doing something. And then you take the last 20, if you live, hopefully. So you take the last 20 to 30 on average.
Speaker 2:Let's just say you take the last 30 years of your life and do what? Think about what you could do now with that last 10, 20, 30 years of your life. Then you do it just for yourself. Right, that's my opinion. But think about the wisdom you have now, the experience you have now. And you're telling me you want me to just go somewhere and sit on a beach somewhere, ride around in a now, and you're telling me you want me to just go somewhere and sit on a beach somewhere right around a boat for the next 20, 30 years. I'm telling you that last 10, 20, 30 years of your life, that's where you build up the actual rich part of your life. That's where you become wealthy. That's where you create generational wealth. That's where you transfer wealth. That's where you actually build something that your children can inherit, as long as you don't stop. But society's telling a good portion of our senior community to stop, and for the most part they are.
Speaker 1:They're checking out. What about the argument that wealth builds weak men and weak men build strong men and strong men build weak men? What about that?
Speaker 2:It's a real argument, it's a real discussion to have. But the first generation builds it. The second generation traditionally protects it. It protects it, it defends it. The second generation normally defends it. It's like no, don't touch what dad built. I don't know nothing about being rich, I don't either, but here's what they say. First generation builds it. Second generation defends it. Third generation feels entitled to it. That's when it falls apart. Entitlement destroys everything Entitlement to the family, business, entitlement to what you know, the gift that God's given you. Entitlement ruins it. So what each generation must do, then, is build upon what the first generation built.
Speaker 1:Well, you gotta be, you gotta take some pride in what you're building. Look at Fred Trump, right Donald Trump Now, eric and Donald jr and and Baron like they're. They're. They're amazing kids Like I, I, you know I. I hope to God nothing ever happens where they're introduced to him crazy shit, but it doesn't seem like they ever would be. Honestly, it just doesn't. They just seem like really good kids. Yeah, they seem solid. It looks like he did a hell of a job raising his kids.
Speaker 2:I agree and I don't understand the criticism that's coming to him. However, you look at the other side, it's really bad.
Speaker 1:I mean, their kids are just jacked up and and we're talking about somebody Donald Trump and their neighbor was Michael Jackson, so they spent their childhood playing with Michael Jackson. True story.
Speaker 2:Right, that's a true story. I didn't know that, yeah.
Speaker 1:He lived in the building and they literally were at Michael Jackson's house playing all the time Video games with Michael Jackson, which is quite amazing.
Speaker 2:What I'm trying to teach my kids to do now is all right, I'm going to build something as strong as I can. I'm going to do the best I can to build something that's really solid for you. Now what I need you to do is compliment what I just did. Caleb's going to put it all in one bike, Right, Okay? I'm screaming from the rooftops to my kids like don't live off what I gave you, Build on what I gave you, Sure.
Speaker 1:Just build on it, so whatever it was.
Speaker 2:Whatever it's worth to you, just add to it, Sure, and then teach your kids to add to it as well. I think that's a biblical principle that's taught in the scriptures. You'll see that Jesus said I go to prepare a place for you.
Speaker 1:That's why the Jewish people do so well? Because they constantly do that for each other. They constantly start them out right.
Speaker 2:Build, build, build, build, build and you create generational wealth and you have purpose, you have a meaningful burden for your life. What's wrong with most of the country today? When you talk about generations, the reason there's an identity crisis? Well, I mean there's many reasons and you know they're really nefarious, they're really bad.
Speaker 1:Are you going to say vagina?
Speaker 2:again. No, I'm not going to say that. What's wrong with it is they have no meaningful burden. They're not building anything. It's just what you said. They don't get up every day, they don't go to work, they have nothing to do. They're at home playing PlayStation. They're just not doing anything. So is Elon Musk. And now I don't know what sex I am. I'm a dog, I'm a cat. I have a vagina. I don't have one. He did it All right. Yeah, that's twice. I'll give you the trifecta by the end of the. That's it. Yeah, I think that's it. Meaningful burden Get one. If you get a meaningful burden, you solve a lot of your problems in life. I love it.
Speaker 1:You won't have to take LSD or anything else, but my mom's worked her ass off her whole life so she still had anger issues that she's let go with this ayahuasca, just saying.
Speaker 2:Man, she really did. I have a seat for your mom in my sanctuary. Oh, my mom goes to church.
Speaker 1:Tell her For your mom in my sanctuary. Oh, my mom goes to church. Come, come to me. Well, she lives. My mom was out now, much cuz she's like two hours from here, mm-hmm. So she goes to her local church. But yes, she goes every Sunday. Good, but it's a open church, open dinner, open to doors wide open. So I mean it's an open denomination, like, yeah, I'm not denominational to it's more are you? I didn't know. Yeah, I didn't know that I'm not.
Speaker 2:Pentecostal, but I am.
Speaker 1:Are you Pentecostal?
Speaker 2:I mean, I believe in Pentecost, yeah, Really.
Speaker 1:That's funny. You know, that's what I went to school, that's what I grew up on. Pentecost, yeah, pentecostals yeah, that's the church I went to. It's the only church I ever went, which I never liked because it was too structured but I don't really understand the whole idea of the.
Speaker 2:you know the different denominations, I guess I didn't know that you guys were, that.
Speaker 1:You were just a Bible. You just, you know Jim justice is. Yeah, okay, that's who I went to his church. I went to there was a brother, a brother Shamlin. Do you remember him? That's probably before you familiar, but that's him. And Jim justice that was a Jim justice actually lives across the street from Texas. I know Jim. Yeah, he's a good dude, yeah.
Speaker 2:Um, but not. No, we're non-denominational, but I'm, of course.
Speaker 1:I believe in Pentecost, so yeah, so do you speak in tongues in your church?
Speaker 2:Uh yeah, that's in the Bible, so you are Pentecostal though.
Speaker 1:No, we're non-denominational. I mean, that means you'll accept anybody. But but you're preaching Pentecostal type religion, right? I believe in Pentecost, okay.
Speaker 2:If it's in the Bible, I believe it. To healing, restoration, all of it, I believe it. I'm going to go write a Bible. The precedence, no, the precedent. Here's a here's word the precedence of the early church and the precedence of the life of Jesus. That's it. I get it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I went to the church. So do you have a lot of people that wear long denim shirt skirts? No, no, you don't have that. That's why the church I went to that's how it was. That's your Pentecost. Yeah, that's how the church I went to was. That's what it was. Yeah, and my daughter's one friend was that was that same way. Her mom would come over and had that and the daughter would only go to school like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I remember going to school with a bunch of a bunch of Pentecostals mostly Puerto Rican Mostly they were Puerto Rican, yeah.
Speaker 1:But the church I went to wasn't a Hispanic church, but the ones in school were almost all Hispanic. Yeah, yeah, the ones in school were almost all Hispanic. Yeah, yeah, for sure, that was pretty. Yeah, I didn't know that. See, I learned something today. You didn't know we were non-denominational. No, I did not, I didn't know what you were. Oh see, you're safe, I didn't pay attention. You're safe, I didn't pay attention whatsoever.
Speaker 2:Tell your wife you're safe. She considers a place.
Speaker 1:I like that, though I didn't like the Baptist. I don't like Baptist and Catholic because I don't like the structure. Can you tell the difference between them? Yes, oh God, yes, what's the difference? Structure, structure. What do they do? Baptist is structured. You go there's times, everything's set Really. Yeah, that's like in a Pentecostal church If you go in to talk to the preacher it might be a half hour, but Jim might be there an hour and a half. It's hard to say, you don't know, it seems, how winded he is that day. Right, I mean, isn't that usually the? I mean, that's how I grew up anyways.
Speaker 2:The priority of every congregational gathering should be the presence of Christ.
Speaker 1:I agree with that. But when I go to a Baptist church it was always structured, which I always thought was weird, like he'd be in the middle of story. I'm like, oh, time's up, see you later.
Speaker 2:Oh no, I don't like that. No, there's no way you can do that. That can't you can't dictate that. I agree that, yeah, there, there there was a philosophical adjustments I've had to adjust and make over the years as a, as a leader in the in the ministry, just saying no.
Speaker 1:I didn't even know that there was a bigger church than like Jim Justice's church. I thought he was like the biggest Pentecostal church around here. I thought back then when he was on the lake I don't know if you ever he's still there yeah Right, he's not a preacher, no more that I know. No, no, but I think his brother is, but that church is still there.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I think his brother is a preacher now earlier, where we mentioned names. But I'm on my own business, I'm like, no, I'm just, I'm gonna do what I do and a lot of those experiences have taught me that just keep your head down and just keep trucking, you know like, and try not to pay attention to stuff.
Speaker 1:But I should get more involved in in like, uh, politics and stuff, um, but a lot of people tell you not to because it's that reminds me I've got it set up and I've got it ordered my uh book by case and I've got it set up with the city. I talked with uh bias and he's got the approval for us to put one at oakwood park, so I had that. Oh my thing, that I was gonna do. They did it, so I did mine trip to hell.
Speaker 2:You weren't there, you never came by.
Speaker 1:I couldn't. I told you that was that too I had too much going on that weekend. This weekend's open this weekend I'll have to check more.
Speaker 2:Tell Amanda Hear that, amanda, it's open. It's open Hear that, Amanda.
Speaker 1:It's not open this weekend.
Speaker 2:I got VIP parking, all right.
Speaker 1:On that note, we're going to get out of here before Troy says vagina again.
Speaker 2:Don't trust the mainstream news outlets.
Speaker 1:You know what? It's not done until it's done. They really are awesome. They really are. But I'm glad to know that you're Pentecostal, really.
Speaker 2:I'm not Pentecostal, I'm non-denominational.
Speaker 1:I get it, but that's your belief. But I believe in.
Speaker 2:Pentecost yeah, yes, okay.
Speaker 1:There was a day of pentecost.
Speaker 2:Yes, I don't know what that means but okay, yeah, on the day of pentecost, the spirit of god was poured out. They began to clove and tongues of fire were rested on each of them that's right.
Speaker 1:Whatever you do, troy is not pentecostal. We're out of here, peace.
