Tucker & Thompson
Troy and Jim sit down and discuss life, politics and coming together!
Tucker & Thompson
From Political Strategies to Thanksgiving Joy
What happens when Bernie Sanders, Ronald Reagan, Taylor Swift, and Donald Trump find their way into one dynamic conversation? Imagine the unexpected synergy between political intrigue and personal anecdotes, as we navigate everything from Bernie Sanders' credit card cap proposal to amusing tales of RV nostalgia. We dive into the fascinating world of union versus non-union work environments, comparing how these structures function in the construction industry and beyond. With humor and insight, we explore the nuances of financial discipline and its reflection on personal integrity while sharing stories of friendships forged in the most unlikely places.
As our discussion unfolds, we turn our attention to the colorful intersection of celebrity influence and political narratives. From Taylor Swift's cultural sway to Trump's unique political strategies, combined with the unexpected antics of RFK Jr., we question how these figures shape public opinion and media portrayals. Our conversation meanders through the complexities of taxation, insurance frustrations, and the military-industrial complex, all while contemplating the fairness of current systems and the role of community support. There's no shortage of spirited debate and candid reflections as we tackle these weighty topics with our trademark humor.
Finally, we embrace a lighter, more nostalgic tone, appreciating the quirks of family and cherished memories. Thanksgiving traditions, cabin getaways, and the joy of embracing differences highlight our desire for meaningful connections and a more harmonious world. Whether recalling childhood heroes or laughing at the absurdity of RV adventures, our stories underscore the value of acceptance and shared experiences. So join us for an engaging session filled with laughter, introspection, and a fresh perspective on life's unexpected intersections.
May God Be with you!!!
Good afternoon, what's up? We're on live again, by the way. Ready to go Live again Live? What does that mean? That means that on Facebook they can go watch us live while we're on air.
Speaker 1:Get on Facebook right now and tell people to go watch.
Speaker 2:I tagged you, I tagged me. Oh good, so anybody who's on your Facebook should tag up, should show up. Yeah, let them know right now.
Speaker 1:I might get myself in trouble.
Speaker 2:Don't get yourself in trouble.
Speaker 1:That's not a good idea you got to turn that off, though, my bad, I'm a rookie.
Speaker 2:You see rookie.
Speaker 1:All right, man, it's been a while. It's not even been a while, it's been a very short week. But, man, there's a world.
Speaker 2:So much going on, rotation of the earth has pulled in a direction that's, and how many people are just like all right, Trump, I'm on. What's up? What are we going to do? Let's go. Bernie Sanders even reached out.
Speaker 1:Really? Yeah, you didn't see that.
Speaker 2:No, I didn't he went on Twitter and said that he's down to help control the. He's there to work with them on capping credit cards at 10% interest rates, Because I guess it's something he talked about on the campaign.
Speaker 1:I never heard him say it. That was a big issue for him.
Speaker 2:That's a good thing. Yeah, I mean Bernie Sanders has. He doesn't like the, the, the, uh, you're a Bernie Sanders guy. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But he has some things that are good. I mean, everybody has good qualities. I mean I think he's a great guy, he seems like a great guy. I don't like his policies, but I don't think he's evil.
Speaker 1:I could never take Bernie, for Every time we talk I'm like he's a character from some strange sitcom somewhere. He should definitely be a character Abraham Simpson. There should be something. There should be a character named Bernie Sanders on either the Symptoms or Family Guy, the other one, family Guy. I think Bernie Sanders belongs on Family Guy. It's possible? Yeah, there should be a character. I believe there already is.
Speaker 2:Honestly, but I mean the socialism I'm not about. I'm not saying that. Oh, he's a socialist, that's his. He will tell you that's what he is about socialism. Wow, you get it.
Speaker 1:I what I mean to really, you know, advocate for socialism, you have to ignore a lot of history. You do, I agree, I do, I don't disagree or you have to be ignorant, as the day is long, like you got to. You have to have the good sense. God gave chickens.
Speaker 2:I think that socialism on its core sounds good to most people when it's presented properly. If you don't work, if you don't know the history.
Speaker 1:Socialism only sounds good to people who are freeloaders. It never sounds good to a guy that's going to work every day, putting in the hours, putting in the effort, waking up early, going to bed late, grinding, grinding, grinding. It only sounds good to those who are lazy and those who are leeches in society.
Speaker 2:Well, unions are a socialist program in themselves, explain. I mean it is, it's, everybody gets the same. I mean you have to work for it, but everybody gets the same.
Speaker 1:Well, no, it's not the same.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, it's Marxism, will tell you right away that's the first move is to get everybody in the union.
Speaker 1:That is what they did in history. Yeah, yeah, that's the first. I never put those two things together. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:It is a socialist idea but it's not a bad thing. But I mean the thing that where the union is not socialist is because, especially in my trades maybe not in the Ford workers or something like that, but in the trades like what, what I do the guy that's that that works harder, works all the time and is consistently working. The guy that doesn't work hard is on unemployment a lot.
Speaker 1:Right, but it's not socialism, because when you come into a union outfit and I'm not advocating for union outfits, I don't, personally, I don't, I don't think there of any, I don't, personally, I don't, I don't think there of any, I don't think, I don't think they work, but anyhow. But, but you come into the union, and when you come into the union, right, you come into the union at a certain scale, and don't you have to like move your way through the scales to get to a certain place? To you know, you make more money as you gain more experience. Is that not the case? No, you get it through time, time, yes, time, time. That's what's wrong with, that's what's wrong with the unions.
Speaker 2:Time. It's not like you test out. I mean we do.
Speaker 1:we went to school, I went to apprenticeship school yeah, but you have to have a certain education to do certain jobs. That's how it was in the city when I worked there. I mean, of course, there were dinosaurs that hung around longer, so they were the guys in charge, which that's what was wrong with it, because these guys, just because they hung around, that's the whole thing, they earn positions.
Speaker 1:You're like, you can't read the back of a cereal box and you're telling me how to put gravel in a hole Like. That's why I couldn't like bro. I can't hang out here.
Speaker 2:Wait, someone had to tell you how to put gravel in a hole.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you thought there was a policy for that or something in the union.
Speaker 2:I'm like Preston it's not rocket science, it probably is, we just have to fill no, there's a process.
Speaker 1:And you can't spell patch. You know what I mean. But you want to tell me how to, and the guy would come into work hungover, just because he had been there longer, you know, and he would just. And then they'd try to tell me how to do things because I always did concrete, I did construction All my whole. That's from a kid. So when I went to work for the city, you know, I was a little older, I was probably in my mid-20s, and they were all these guys that were working there. Some of them knew what they were doing, but by and large most of them just did not know how to put their pants on right and they were telling me how to pour concrete. I'm like, bro, that is not what you should. The roads I mean these guys were working on roads in the city of Lorraine and I'm like I was telling guys twice my senior how to do stuff. I'm like, no, we have to build it that way.
Speaker 2:That's a perfect like when I was in a small company, when I started in the's. I mean, that's, that's a perfect like when I was in it. I was in a small company when I started in the union. I worked for a company that had maybe 12 guys, something like that, something something to that effect, and I did well. There I was, I did well. I mean I I don't know where I fit in as far as who knew what, but everybody around me that was older knew what they were doing. All had different ideas, but they all pretty much knew what they were doing. But when I left there and I went to work for a big company with a couple hundred carpenters working for them, oh my God, dude, just brain dead. They just didn't know what they were doing.
Speaker 1:It was horrible, we were doing the.
Speaker 2:Statler Building downtown Cleveland. Probably 80 carpenters on the job. Out of 80 carpenters, not one of them could tell you what to make. The rough opening of a door.
Speaker 1:So you're saying that the union carpenters, the socialist carpenters, were better carpenters than the free capitalist?
Speaker 2:carpenters no, they were both union. Oh, they were both union. They were both union. Both of them were union shops.
Speaker 1:Let's do a comparison between the union you said socialist socialist structure and then the, the free, the free capitalist, the guy that, the guy out there that's just looking to go to work every day doing whatever, who's a better carpenter?
Speaker 2:oh, that side doesn't make a difference. In my opinion, I haven't seen anything that makes that a difference. There's a there's it's. That's like saying a black guy will vote for trump or a black guy will vote for kamala has nothing to do with one, has nothing to do with the other. If a guy is talented and appreciates what he's doing and is trying to do a good job, he's going to be a good carpenter. You know what I mean. It just doesn't. The two have nothing to do with each other.
Speaker 1:What I guess. What I'm saying is doesn't the free market force you to be better? No, as opposed to being protected by a union that doesn't matter how good you are.
Speaker 2:You're not that protected.
Speaker 1:You're not that protected. I felt like you were at the city.
Speaker 2:That's what I felt like. I felt like you were poor.
Speaker 1:They protected lazy slothful, and that was the part of it. I'm not going to work harder than all these other guys and I know more than them.
Speaker 2:The problem is with the city and I'm not getting rewarded for it.
Speaker 2:It's one place you work. That's it. You know what I mean. Like where we work in the carpenters union. I go to work for 20, 30, 40 companies and I have the same job. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. So you have, you have to you. It almost has a free market value to it, and that wasn't in that you had to compete for the bids, right, yeah, I mean the contractors have to bid, but as a worker you have to. I mean, if you're no good, they'll just get rid of you. They're not going to keep you working. And because a carpenter's is such a grand scale, it's not like and I guess electricians probably have it too where you have some that are more aimed towards industrial or some that are more aimed towards dentist office or something, then they have a little better handle of it. Where in a carpenterers it's a lot of like a guy is a metal stud guy, a guy's a wood guy, a guy's a cabinet guy, a guy's a flooring guy. So you're pro-union, is that what?
Speaker 2:you're saying I am pro-union, yeah, why? Why am I pro-union? Yeah, I've been in the union my whole life, so I mean it makes a big part of it. It was good to you. The unions have been good to you. Well, I mean, it was a better option out there, for in most cases there's too many guys out there and but now, that being said, there's enough guys out now that you don't have to accept.
Speaker 2:Like there's Janan and Herner. I don't know if you know who they are. They're in Monroeville. They that the program they have. I mean they run everybody through apprenticeship training. They have some of the most efficient workers I've seen. They're hard workers, they're knowledgeable workers and I mean they just do a great job. I mean, and they're a non-union company.
Speaker 2:Star is another company that has some good people that work for them. I would put Janan and Herner a step above quality-wise of their employees. Well, I mean, I'm not saying Star is bad, I'm just saying I would put Janan and Herner a step above. They just have a little extra in there where they really put the time and effort into training their guys to be good and they pay them. Well, they tell you some of their bonuses and some of the guys are getting bonuses that are better than you're making as a union carpenter yeah, you know for the year. So I mean they, they have some really good programs where you can't do that in the union because of legacy costs now, because they have so much money going to retirees that are retired already I'm not sure where I stand on that, unions and all that, but anyhow, back to bernie sanders we said all that to come back to Bernie Sanders, and Bernie Sanders is being he's courting.
Speaker 2:Trump for it. Well, he did about that part of it, and I know one of the other things that he wants to do is he wants to get rid of all the lobbyists. He wants to get rid of them, and that's why I said he's got some wonderful things that are in his thoughts, but it's not, you know, definitely not socialism, but getting rid of lobbyists. Wonderful, sign me up. Yeah, yeah, I'm for it Credit cards not going over 10%.
Speaker 1:Sure, sign me up for that too. They should be beneath seven. Yeah, I agree that's ridiculous. Like 10% is insane.
Speaker 2:Well, that's what I was talking about.
Speaker 2:Jesus don't ask for more than 10. Come on, that's what somebody else said. Who said that? I forget. I just heard that it might have been Tucker Carlson, I think might have said that the church don't ask for more than 10. But the thing is, the problem is that the people that can't pay off their credit cards are the ones that really are hurting the worst you know what I mean and have the least amount of means, and that's the ones that are paying the big, high percentages and they're the ones that are exploited.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're being exploited by it, you know, Right right. Which you know. That's a whole other thing. But Trump's out here building a negative.
Speaker 2:Reagan is the one who jumped up interest rates On credit cards. Yeah, really yeah, reagan. Before Reagan, I think you weren't allowed to be higher than 16 or 17. He's the one who opened it up. Before that, it was considered loan sharking and by doing that it is exactly that. It is exactly that. That's why in the 80s, when we had the recession and housing that's, when loans on houses like you were getting a mortgage on a house it was like 10%. Do you use a credit card on houses like you were getting a mortgage on a house? It was like 10. Do you use a credit card? I do. Yeah, I use credit cards. Yeah, I mean amazon, for sure, that card is always getting charged on constantly.
Speaker 1:20 I like the concept of using credit cards because I like spending other people's money rather than my own, and so the the yeah. So if you use a credit card, this is what I like about it, as opposed to like my bank cards. A lot of my wife likes to use the bank card. I'm like stop using the bank card, because if the bank card gets jacked and this happens all the time if the bank card gets jacked, then my money is attached to the bank card, but if the credit card gets hijacked, that's not my money, that's their money.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you know what, my buddy Hassan, he had somebody we thought I think it might have been well, it doesn't matter. But my buddy his debit card had money taken out, a bunch of money taken out of the ATM like quite a bit Over $1,200, I think $1,400 total were taken out in the bank to reverse the charges.
Speaker 1:They gave it back to him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was out of his debit. It was a debit card.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't play with it, I don't play with it. I rotate three cards and I make sure those cards. I mean. I had to learn all that the hard way, though, growing up. It's just crazy. You go to college, they give you a credit card, which is something that you teach in school.
Speaker 2:I burned my credit when I was young, real quick, and I actually had to pay it all off. And then, before I could buy my first house, I was like 24 or something. I had to pay off because I had ruined it when I lost my job and when I was 18 or 19 or whatever it was. So I had to pay off all this credit card debt to get my credit right to buy my first house. And as I was closing it, there was one that somebody was making me pay it again. I paid who I owed it to, but apparently they had already sold the debt. But I had to do it that day Cause I was closing the next day, you know. So I had to get hurt.
Speaker 2:Oh, it was horrible. I wanted to and the guy's like, making fun of me on the phone Like he was an asshole. He's like, he's like I'm like, uh, like, uh, yeah, I need to clear this up. I call him real nice and he's like oh well, that's no problem, just kidding, I go. No, I paid it already. I try, I give him the transaction. He goes oh, no, that he goes. I own the debt. Now I don't know who you paid, but I own it now it's my dad and he, and then, uh, I said no, no, no, I just need to. You know, I got to clear this up. He goes, well, he goes. If you paid, he goes. Eventually it'll get to me. It might take a few weeks or something, but I will get it.
Speaker 2:And I said, well, I said I have to have it to close on this house. And he goes, he goes. Well, he said, then you're going to have to pay it. He goes, that's the only way I could do it. And I go, well, I mean, I, I, you want me to pay it twice. And and it was so small too, it was like 350 bucks or something. It wasn't nothing major, but I'm like, I'm like, uh, you know that that doesn't seem right. And he goes, well, he goes, you're going to, I go, I can't, I'm not paying you, I'm not doing it. And he goes, well, then you're not getting a house.
Speaker 1:And I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 2:I'm starting to get mad and dude like he starts going you're never gonna have a house. Oh no, he said he did that dude, if I knew where he lived, I never seen nobody. So so and I, and it worked because I had paid it, because I got my house fine. Oh my goodness, yeah, that was early on. I learned like, yeah, you credit and get you in trouble quick, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I I use them, but I use them to my advantage, Like I, and I never um, I never allowed them to go beyond the threat.
Speaker 2:There's a certain threshold that I hold, that I know Well, if you want to keep your credit right, you should never go over 30%. That's the rule of thumb. It's like you know that keeps your credit score where it should be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that we should teach our kids that. I'm really trying to show my kids that. Teach my kids that it don't matter. I know Dale told me that my Uncle Dale, he was constantly telling me that. Nobody ever told me and I wish I would have known that. You know the whole credit score situation, interest rates, investing.
Speaker 2:You know, you just want something Didn't you take applied math in school?
Speaker 1:What's that got to?
Speaker 2:do with the price?
Speaker 1:No, they taught us all that in applied math. No man, I don't remember ever hearing any of that. I took accounting one, two and three with Hishmay but I never connected the dots that my checkbooking would someday equate to a credit score that would enable me to buy or to be denied to buy a home on credit or a car. I never really connected those dots. I think we need to do a better job in the education system of helping kids connect those dots, especially in lower economic demographics, in certain demographics Maybe.
Speaker 2:I don't know that it'll make a difference. I don't think it makes a difference. It doesn't make a difference. I don't think so we don't give a shit, we don't think you know what you're talking about. Well, the problem is this.
Speaker 1:The problem is the people that can afford to make the mistakes do, and the people that can't don't. Those are the ones that are being exploited. They can't afford to make those mistakes. I would tell myself Troy, you cannot afford to go into debt. You're already poor. The last thing you can afford to do without the luxury of money in the bank, the last thing you can afford to do is put yourself further in a hole and then allow that system to make you a slave and a consumer for the rest of your life. Now, granted, I woke up at some point and was like wait a minute, but I don't think you listen at that age?
Speaker 1:I don't think I don't know, but are they listening at 27? Because I think that's when men begin to develop a brain. Is it 27? Are you listening at 27? And, do you know, at 27? Has anybody ever taught you that at 27? I would hope so. You think no, huh Bro. No, not where I came from, not in the hood. Really, I had to go find that information off of myself.
Speaker 2:Didn't you work with anybody that helped you? Nobody cared enough to tell me, did they just?
Speaker 1:say hey, go pour this, concrete for me.
Speaker 2:And you guys didn't talk about nothing else while you were at work.
Speaker 1:I mean dumb stuff Really. Wow, when are you, man? Who are you hanging out with?
Speaker 2:I need to know your friends that help you so much I mean, I think I look back at, like, say, jimmy Dean, as we talked about him earlier today, that's a journeyman I worked under, like that's who I basically worked all the time with, and yeah, we would have all kinds of conversations like that, like, yeah, you know, just we would. I mean, I guess it was part of we would have debates about like lunch. Even I remember like, because he was one that would, would his, his mom would pack his lunch every day, cause he was divorced at that time, moved back at home and his mom would pack his lunch every day. And I'm like, you know, I'm like, well, you know, why not just take care of your own lunch? And he's like. He's like, cause I won't do it, and then I'll be buying it and this and that, and he's like, and then you'll, you know, you'll spend X amount. I forget what it was. I want to say it was like, well, we had it figured at that point like eight bucks a day or whatever.
Speaker 2:So, that's $40 a month 15 bucks. You could have bought your lunch and packed them for 12.
Speaker 1:So you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So we, oh yeah, we would have those conversations. Or even like the coffee, like a coffee every day and you pay a couple bucks for coffee that you could have just poured a thermos at home, or things like that. Yeah, we'd have those conversation.
Speaker 1:I probably wasn't as transparent as I should have been either. Even if I were having them, I wasn't gonna let this, this dude I didn't know or trust, give me advice, you know.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, jimmy was just like. He was one of those people that just put his advice out there for you. It was a real asshole.
Speaker 1:I mean well, those are the guys you know those guys. Those are the ones that you know. They can be jerks all they want, but they're telling you the truth. Whether you want to take it or not, you know the first day, first day at work.
Speaker 2:Here's a funny story for you. First day of work, working with Jimmy Dean Okay, I'm an apprentice, never met the guy a day in my life. I got the job through my at the time father-in-law was a leasing agent for Visconsi Properties, which Visconsi was Dick Jacobs' old partner. It used to be Jacobs and Visconsi. Visconsi had Southland Shopping Center and all these big work. That's where my father-in-law worked. So the contractor that did all their work got me a job and it was just I was digging ditches, whatever. But he said I can get you in the union with this other guy. So I go to work first day, the union with this other guy. And here comes Jimmy Dean.
Speaker 2:Now this guy's you know, he's got a cigar in his mouth probably at that time, maybe 26,. You know, thin, thin guy, kind of like grumpy a little bit. I'm trying to make, make you know, conversation with him, just regular conversation, you know. I mean just normal shit. So our day's going on, he's showing me how to do this or that and he's laughing at me for my snips I got, or whatever, and I go. I said, said something to the effect of was he married or something? He gave me a quick answer like no, I'm divorced. And then, whatever the next thing was, he's like you're real short.
Speaker 2:I ask him about four questions and finally he just turns around and goes look dude, he goes. I just got divorced. I moved in with my mom. I drive beater fucking trucks because I'm too cheap to make a car payment. Now can we do some fucking work?
Speaker 1:I don't want to make nice with you. What did you do?
Speaker 2:you went to work I went to work.
Speaker 1:That was it From then on, man. What did it teach you?
Speaker 2:He was my. I mean, that's who we me and him started my first construction company. Me and him started together. Yeah, so you ended up developing a relationship. Oh, very, he actually ended up marrying my wife's sister. Nice True story, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And that was a. He's a grown man, that's a man.
Speaker 2:Who Jimmy, yeah, we didn't need and that was a. He's a grown man. That's a man who jimmy, jimmy, he had a good dad. He had a good father. He grew up in a good family. He got his mom and dad were like. His dad taught him stuff all the time.
Speaker 1:You feel like like real strong principled men are like that. They're just direct, they're just, you know, they're just like listen, like just here it is yeah, headlines bottom lines. We don't need to talk about the middle.
Speaker 2:Yep, listen here it is Headlines, bottom lines. We don't need to talk about the middle. Here it is, Are you?
Speaker 1:like that, I like him now. Now I see how funny he is.
Speaker 2:Are you like that With what?
Speaker 1:Just headlines, bottom lines. We don't need to talk about the middle, let's get it done.
Speaker 2:No, I'll talk about anything. I don't care, but I'll tell you the truth. I'll tell you the truth. Is there a little bit of jerk in you? I don't feel like it's being a jerk. I think you're being a jerk if you don't tell somebody the truth.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you are that the truth hurts, and so anyone who will tell it has to be very principled. The truth only hurts if you don't live in it. Right, that's my point, and so all of those who live in the truth. They're abrasive, they're strong, they're direct, they walk in one direction.
Speaker 2:You can't mix them up, but I feel like I see that you say that all the time like you can't mix them up, but I feel like it's a good thing to be open to suggestion.
Speaker 1:It is, but you'll have to test what I've come to know is true, and testing it isn't the same as just me open to suggestion from it. The testing I'll allow the test of it, but what I won't do is just allow you to influence me because you do it, and that's what's wrong with most of society. We just go along with you know, because her name's Taylor Swift and we're like, oh yeah, I'm a Swiftie.
Speaker 2:I'm a Swiftie Trump's testing everybody. Wow, he's out here making it known. He just, freaking, threw down the gauntlet. He don't give a shit, dude.
Speaker 1:Holy shit, oh man, and I love it. I'm here for the whole thing, man, where?
Speaker 2:two-thirds of the country said.
Speaker 1:I'm with that guy.
Speaker 2:And he's just like. That's it.
Speaker 1:Taylor Swift can say what she wants. Oprah can say what she wants. Beyonce can say what she wants. I'm with that guy. I'm paying too much for eggs. I'm with that guy.
Speaker 2:I love it, the podcasters. Did you see that on Saturday Night Live, the skit that they had? I didn't see it. They showed I forget what the name of the pod. It was a generic, they made it up funny comedy podcast. There were a bunch of goofballs, dumbasses talking on the podcast and they're like and Trump's calling them yeah, yeah, I could do that. What's? Secretary of Commerce.
Speaker 1:I need a guy. I need a guy. So let me go. Let me go call this guy who works at Fox, Fox News Network. I'm going to have him run the military for us now.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Perfect, perfect, perfect. But I think in his next, I think in his next election cycle he learned so much from the first that he's not going to make those same mistakes coming back.
Speaker 2:Well, I think that now there's a cockiness to it too, where it's like well, I mean, I feel like he's just. He didn't win the popular vote the first time, Right, so you?
Speaker 1:kind of got to think, you got to have, you got to kind of look at yourself.
Speaker 2:You believe that in 2016? Yeah, that he didn't win. I do believe that. Yeah, I think a lot of people were in 2016. I'll be honest, I voted for Trump. Oh, 2020, I'm talking about yeah, but 2016,. I voted for Trump, but I was like, when he first came on the scene, I remember my daughter calling me and going did you see who's running for president? And I said who? She said Trump. I go oh Jesus, you know, like that's not because he had already done it. I think he did it the time before against Obama, didn't he?
Speaker 1:I don't remember he threw his hat in the ring for a minute and then backed out.
Speaker 2:I think Obama was the reason he did it. Oh yeah, they show that You've seen that right. He makes fun of them at the White House correspondence dinner, I think, or something. Yeah, that was pretty funny. He threw his hat in the ring the one time she said I'm just, I was kind of like I could understand where the, where you were questionable at that time, cause I mean here you are, it's just, I mean Trump is, I mean he's Trump.
Speaker 1:I don't think he's arrogant this time. I think he's just really aware, he's very aware of of the decisions that he did. You don't think he's arrogant? I don't, I mean he's arrogant. I mean, yeah, I don't know. I don't know that I can say that.
Speaker 2:When you were in Gatz out as the Attorney General, you are just like Don't you think that's I mean outside of the accusations that have just come against him Not just that were old accusations. I just heard about them. They've been, he's actually been found innocent of them or whatever.
Speaker 1:Oh, well then, look, then that's a good choice.
Speaker 2:But the people they're coming out and going. No, they were true.
Speaker 1:Well, you know let's go back and review what we previously had for the last four years OK yeah and compare the two. No, that's a good choice.
Speaker 2:No, I know Because? No, when you watch him and when he's on it, he's on it. And he's on a committee, everything I mean.
Speaker 1:he's always giving you facts. He's just coming after you, I mean.
Speaker 2:I'm one that sits on the like. I know you probably don't feel that. I mean I don't want my leaders to be coked out and I don't want that kind of stuff going on. I mean, that's kind of some of the suggestions that are going on with him is that he was buying prostitutes and doing drugs or whatever. But I mean, if a guy's doing coke but he's making the country great.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to be mad about it. He's like I'm going to be mad at you.
Speaker 2:I mean, if he's not tweaked out and grinding his teeth on the White House floor, man, I'm alright with it, it's cool it's cool, I'm not saying I want it.
Speaker 1:Outside of that particular pick, I feel like RFK.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm real excited about RFK and the thing is they're trying to paint him as he's this crazy.
Speaker 1:But he was a Democrat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but they've always said that he's crazy like an anti-vaxxer.
Speaker 1:Well, because he dismantled their money laundering systems. Sure, you go after the pharmaceuticals and you go after the food industry. What's left, man? Where are you going to make your?
Speaker 2:money. Did you see the picture of them going to the UFC fight in the plane? I did not see that. No, you didn't see it. No, what picture they all are eating McDonald's RFK's got McDonald's right in front of them no Swear front of no swear to god.
Speaker 1:that's not a real picture. That is a real.
Speaker 2:That's a troll dude. No, there's no way. Rfk is eating. I think trump put it out there.
Speaker 1:I think that it was actually. Why are they eating mcdonald's first?
Speaker 2:of all, that's not even real.
Speaker 1:There's no way I swear to god, I don't believe. No, I wouldn't, even if I saw that image. There's no way I'm buying that. I swear to god. Let me see if I can find rfK is in way too good a shape man. How old is he? 60?, is he?
Speaker 2:68? I thought that's what they said, but that doesn't sound right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it doesn't Like when you say 68, that seems, that seems impossible, but yeah, but this dude is in incredible shape and he didn't get there eating McDonald's.
Speaker 2:I'm telling you, here we go, let me go see if I can find it. I'm trying to find it. Trump on his way to UFC. Yeah, they're all sitting on the plane and he's got it. Now he's not taking a bite. Let me just put that in front of him. The troll.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty sure it's in his hand, though. I mean, I'm pretty sure that's what I saw. I swear, let me see if I can find it. Where are you? Come on, I just keep seeing them at UFC. I want to see him on his way there.
Speaker 1:And Trump took care of that. Rfk said listen, trump, you got to get that off.
Speaker 2:I was shocked when I didn't see him at the.
Speaker 1:I've seen him at the. No, I didn't see RFK, that's a Trump at the the last UFC season.
Speaker 2:Yeah, rfk was with them, was he? Yeah, oh, didn't you see him come in like the fricking Avengers? They are the Avengers. Yeah, rfk on the plane with Trump, right, what is it? What do I put on here?
Speaker 1:I'm the plane with Trump Trying to find it. I put on here on the plane with Trump trying to find it. It's not there, man. It's a figment of your imagination.
Speaker 2:I was uh, what's that called? What do they call that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's one of those uh, I forget what they call it. Yeah, yeah, I know what you're talking about. Where they? You think you spend that way forever. Something effect.
Speaker 2:And it was always blue right and the fruit of a loom.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the cornucopia. Yeah, they say it doesn't ever happen. No, bro, that was there. It had to have been right there. It was there. I feel like it was. There's a bunch of those.
Speaker 2:I'm like no, that's not true there's people that say, like, show videos of them, or pictures of um him doing, uh, the fruit of a loom in their underwear, like they'll show, but I don't know if they're true or not. Like I mean the everything. That's the problem. Like you, you see, um, just let me remember it the way I remember it. Like, like my, my daughter, she, you know, she sent me, I sent her something the other day. Oh, I sent her something the other day. Oh, I know what. It was the woman that killed her father. Did you see that she killed her father because of Trump one? She went nuts and killed her old man. Like I don't know what the deal was with it. So I sent it to my, I sent it to my daughter, like the clip of it, the news clip, and she sends me a text message that says I wonder if that's true. Like that's, that's where we're at in this world yeah, where anything can be fabricated here's a news story.
Speaker 1:I wonder if it's true, ai is tripping me out, man. Like sometimes I see stuff and I'm like what is that? Like there's no way, and then they'll have images of like sea creatures they caught and they'll have. They'll be AI generated and then those won't be real. It's just keeping me out of the ocean. I'm never going to the ocean again simply because AI has fabricated sea creatures that are beyond terrifying. There's no way. I'm just not doing it. Did you see that that thing with um, with Rogan I think we're not Rogan where he brings the scientists on and the scientists, they begin to discuss memory and what memory is, and like how the scientist says, listen, there's nothing, there's no, there's nothing in the brain that would suggest that that we have memory.
Speaker 2:There's nothing that suggests we have memory right, there's no evidence.
Speaker 1:There's no evidence in your brain. If we take your brain apart and we look at it, I forget the guy's name or anything, but if we take your brain apart, he's like there's nothing in in your brain. There you go. You see that.
Speaker 2:And I've got it up on the screen. Oh man, he's got it.
Speaker 1:He's got a Big Mac or something. It's a quarter pounder with cheese. He's got a quarter pounder and some nuggets and fries. Yeah, he's got nuggets and a little dipping thing there. He's got some barbecue sauce with some French fries. Oh, that's gross, man. That cannot be real. That is not. I don't believe a word. Why in the world are they all rocking?
Speaker 2:oh no, because trump was working at mcdonald's, he probably got him a discount. Yeah, crazy. Yeah, I mean, where are we living? But that was, yeah, that was just on the way to the ufc fight. Friday or saturday was a saturday night, right? Yeah, it was after the. Did you watch that the Tyson fight?
Speaker 1:That's not what I remember. Listen, Mike, I'm going to need you to put something on.
Speaker 2:Put some clothes on, dude.
Speaker 1:Come on man.
Speaker 2:Nobody wants to see your cottage cheese. I told you. I said that's when I knew he lost. I said when he, when they show before the fight even started. You knew he turned around. I'm like oh man, that's an old man, ass, he ain't winning shit.
Speaker 1:You're like that that is not ready for this that is that is not ready for what we're in. No, clearly, that was a scripted event that we witnessed. Clearly it was scripted. The first two fights, though, were brutal man.
Speaker 2:Oh, the first two fights Almost too much to watch. The second two fights were really good fights. Holy moly, they were really good fights both of them.
Speaker 1:Oh my goodness, they just beat each other to death man, yeah, the first, the first, the second fight.
Speaker 2:The first fight was dumb. That was a lame like I don't know what that one was where he's humping him in a corner. That that fight sucked. But the second fight and the girl fight were awesome, yeah those were definitely.
Speaker 1:I guess those were the only two I saw, but man, that was brutal, but then, yeah. Then then to see that that was ridiculous. Netflix better be careful. They're going to ruin boxing for Did yours freeze up.
Speaker 2:No, yours didn't freeze at all, not at all.
Speaker 1:Not once.
Speaker 2:Really, mine froze up about three times.
Speaker 1:No, mine didn't. I don't know what was going on with it. Everybody was complaining about it too.
Speaker 2:It blurred out as soon as I put it on, like it was like pixelated for a minute, and then it came in and see mine did that a couple times where it was pixelated, but then there was times where it would just be that like a spinning thing at 25 and 99 what's?
Speaker 1:wrong with netflix?
Speaker 2:never they, I don't know. They said they had too many more than they anticipated, or whatever you want to call it. I don't know, I don't know what it is, I don't know it was. It wasn't that bad though. I mean, I watched the whole Tyson fight without doing it. I watched the whole girl fight without doing it. Yeah Well, it seemed like it was more in the commercial than it was anything, but yeah, they walked in like the Avengers, the UFC, that was wild. Yeah, like to see all of them coming in there. And oh, dude and Jelly Roll picking his nose. Oh, dude and Jelly Roll picking his nose. Did you see that? What, dude? This is bad.
Speaker 1:I did not see, dude, it's bad. You're telling me Jelly Roll picked his nose On TV On television Sitting behind. Trump Just in there. Even worse, even worse. He did not eat a booger. Do not tell me he ate a booger, dude. Do not tell me that is not real TV. Stop it. No, I swear to God, look, I'm going to show her intentionally, then there's no way.
Speaker 2:No way, till you see it, he gets caught. I'm going to show you, it's going to blow your mind. My wife sent it to me, I swear, not even an hour ago. She sent me this and I'm like you gotta be kidding me. He literally, and it's where is it at here? Here, she goes right here. This is it right here? No way, dude. So jelly roll is right above her or right above Trump, I mean. Oh no, dude, he puts it right in his mouth. My man, he, he puts it right in his mouth, my man, he, he puts it right in his mouth. He just kind of looks at it and goes, like this, he goes.
Speaker 1:First of all, first of all. First of all, why, why, why would you eat a book? Why would you do it in public? If it's something you do. You have got to know, you have got to be more self-aware, that you are on a camera somewhere. You're behind the president of the United States.
Speaker 2:You're jelly roll and you're behind the president of the United States. You're Jim. All right, Jimmy, do not eat boogers man, Somebody might be watching.
Speaker 1:I plan're Jim. All right, Jimmy, do not eat boogers man, Somebody might be watching. I plan not to. All right, just be. I don't care if you're in the car. You think you're alone. Don't do it.
Speaker 2:I mean, I could see, like I thought Are boogers, that delicious.
Speaker 1:I've never eaten a booger, but I'm just wondering what do they taste? Good, he didn't know where to put it. I don't know. Flick that thing away, man, where's? He going to flick it On the president Somewhere, Flick it behind. Get rid of that man. Do you think he gets you?
Speaker 2:just got to get rid of that man. Do they file assault charges if you flick a booger?
Speaker 1:on the president. Blow like that. You know, like clean it out, you know, but don't eat it. You don't eat it. Don't eat it. Listen.
Speaker 2:Dude, I can't believe it. That's crazy.
Speaker 1:I couldn't believe it. I never saw that. When did that come out? She?
Speaker 2:just sent it to me, like a couple hours ago. She just sent me that I'm like you've got to be kidding me. Wow, Wow. And he literally you've seen it. I mean he literally just goes there's no AI involved, nothing, no yeah, he's just enjoying lunch.
Speaker 1:I'm going to go ahead and believe that that was some AI technology. That was next level.
Speaker 2:The comments are great.
Speaker 1:The comments are like I can't, I can't, I just can't do it.
Speaker 2:I can't do it. The comments are like somebody save me.
Speaker 1:Somebody save me.
Speaker 2:That is good that is really good, that is really good.
Speaker 1:That is really good.
Speaker 2:Jelly Roll can do whatever he wants. We still love Jelly Roll.
Speaker 1:He didn't get that big. Looking at boogers, you know what I mean. My bad, my bad.
Speaker 2:I wonder what the nutritional value of a booger is.
Speaker 1:I mean it's got to be high in protein salt. It's got to offer some immunity. There's got to be some stuff in there. Do you think that?
Speaker 2:Who do you think ate worse that day? Rfk or Jelly Roll? Definitely RFK.
Speaker 1:I mean, I guess it depends if Jelly Roll was part of that Thanksgiving's coming up. Yeah, you know what I mean Thanksgiving, it's true. Just stay away from the boogers. Oh my God, yeah, man, yeah.
Speaker 2:So that was the Avengers as they're coming in, yeah.
Speaker 1:So we'll see what happens here.
Speaker 2:The economy likes it, they said that Elon Musk is just like at Mar-a-Lago and just won't leave.
Speaker 1:It's just chilling. It's probably good for his business. It's weird because I never wanted to buy a Tesla. I never was interested. But now I'm like make one that's a hybrid, so I can buy one.
Speaker 2:That's mixed. Yeah, because you want gas. Yeah, why.
Speaker 1:I drove one. I drove a be a Toyota Sienna, or was that? What a Sienna is that the van? Yeah, I think it's a van and it was a hybrid. I Drove around the state of Arizona for $20. That's pretty good. I'm not kidding you, man, that's pretty good 20 bucks. I Started in Phoenix and I went all the way around the state. $20. That's all I put in that gas tank. Did you have to charge it or anything? No, because it does its thing While you're driving it charges.
Speaker 2:Oh okay, so if it's a hybrid, it charges the battery? Oh, okay yeah.
Speaker 1:And if you stayed within a certain thing, it used the energy, so that's far better than probably battery, then Definitely. That's what I'm saying. I don't understand why he doesn't make them. I don't understand why the industry didn't make those cars first phase hybrids, all of them, all of them, unless you've got a certain percentage that's being tested in that arena, where they're just full-on electric cars.
Speaker 2:Well before he had the Teslas, I mean, the Prius had been out. That's a hybrid. That's been out forever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but every other vehicle wasn't Give me the Cybertruck in hybrid form, I might buy it.
Speaker 2:Oh, I got you. You see what?
Speaker 1:I'm saying, give me more options in the hybrid world and then let the infrastructure begin to form around it, and then I would be interested in it. But you take those hybrids to mechanics. They can't work on them.
Speaker 2:They don't know what to do with that. You'd have to be an engineer. Yeah, you can't just yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's not much you're going to do with those. Yeah, man, roscoe from down bad, you know he ain't got nothing for that. There's no, there's nothing, that you know. There's no tool. Just replace the battery, yeah, but then what? How much does that cost? Much as a new car. They're big money. They're big, big money. I think that's why I don't, yeah, so I guess that's good business for Elon right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, except for that, I feel like most of his first buyers were liberals.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and now I think they're going to become more conservative for sure.
Speaker 2:So his shares he's got to be going. They're probably just like you know, because they still have like, they're probably like upside down on him. Still they're paying on him. You know what I mean? And they're just like they're so pissed off. They want to go buy something else, but they can't, they're stuck. How do you trade that thing in?
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't think you can. The whole car value market, that thing's crashing right now. Your truck man Gone. There's one I saw somewhere on the news they're dropping it by thousands, twenty thousand, so I believe nobody's buying it. I believe it nobody's buying it. I mean, those cars, those trucks got so expensive. They're amazing. Like I'm, I looked at those new silver autos, man. I want one of those, you know.
Speaker 2:But no, you don't. Yeah, hey, spent, I'll let you take mine. You want to trade?
Speaker 1:You drive my.
Speaker 2:Yoda, I'll drive your Rado. I'll let you take mine for three days, okay, and you won't want it why?
Speaker 1:What's wrong with it?
Speaker 2:Just junk, really Junk. It looks so good though it looks nice, it's nice, it looks nice.
Speaker 1:I feel like. It's like a. I feel like when I'm driving. It's like a beautiful Bob Seger singing in the background.
Speaker 2:It's like a beautiful stripper you know, beautiful on the outside.
Speaker 1:I went to the Bob Seger, you went to the stripper.
Speaker 2:There's the analogy no, it is, it's, it's. I've had, I've hated it. I hate it Really. It unlocks itself no way. Never. Can figure out why. Haven't been able to figure it out whatsoever. And one time I was literally sitting on my front porch and my keys were upstairs. Nobody was upstairs and right in front of me the lights went and it unlocked.
Speaker 1:I'm like what the hell Don't you have that feature where you can remote lock unlock? Do you have that? Yeah?
Speaker 2:from the app. Yeah.
Speaker 1:But I had that in my Ford and I never had it as a problem.
Speaker 2:No, you know what I mean. And then when I get in it, sometimes it's connected to my Apple CarPlay, sometimes not Every time I have to hit her pen to get in there. Do, do, do, do, do, do do. I have to enter a pen, so I have to go on my. When I have, say you get in a truck with me, I have to enter the passcode for my phone in front of you in a big screen, about that big. Every time I get in the truck Well, not every time, 60% of the time. Sometimes it just doesn't need it 50% of the time.
Speaker 1:It works 100% of the time.
Speaker 2:The Raptor whenever I had had it was the first truck I had to has the auto high beams. Have you ever had that yet? Yeah, the auto high beams phenomenal. I just one of my favorites thing just comes on when it, when it needs to, and then shuts off automatically. I mean on my raptor point, I mean you were just like amazed, like holy, wow, this is awesome. It never misses, it's always right, and I got a funny story about that man. I almost got it, mine don't. Mine are like freaking now. They like just come on, stay on when people pulling up Like they're horrible, they're so delayed, it's just garbage. I just don't like it. I don't like that truck whatsoever. Rides like shit, everything.
Speaker 1:I just don't like it. You'd love my Toyota then it's reliable, there's nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 2:I can't think of anything. I wouldn't buy a Toyota. That's like a terrorist truck Really. I mean, that's what they drive.
Speaker 1:They drive forever. That's why I bought it. That's why the terrorists buy them.
Speaker 2:That's why the terrorists buy them.
Speaker 1:So you're saying I'm a terrorist. I'm saying that terrorists drive the same thing that you drive. That's all I'm saying. All I'm saying is the ideologies of the unions belong to socialism. I'll let you take it for a cruise man. You'll never be the same. You're like man. This thing starts up every time.
Speaker 2:No, you know what? That Raptor? Honestly, I've never driven anything. That's a good-looking truck.
Speaker 1:Best truck. I don't know why you got rid of that dude. That thing was nice.
Speaker 2:Because I got $53,000.
Speaker 1:Oh, for that thing, $53,000.
Speaker 2:And you know what you just said. It tanked right now. What would it be worth today? I don't know. Worth more than that? Silverado, probably, probably. Yeah, and but, yeah, but that's a, that's a trail boss, it's not?
Speaker 1:no, yeah, it's nice dude, I look at it, I'm like man, it's really tempting yeah, it's not, but my truck's paid for so.
Speaker 2:But somebody has a zr2 trail boss or whatever, the zr2 one, the bigger one, then they love it. They say they have no complaints, man, I think they look sweet.
Speaker 1:My buddy has one. Why does he have that? Yeah, he's got one of those. He calls it white boy. He calls it white boy. It's big, it's a big white truck, man. I don't know what size it is, but it's. It's. The front end looks like a mac truck coming at you. Man, that's probably that zr2. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, they, yeah, they're sharp. It's good man. My goodness, it's nice.
Speaker 2:Those are like 96 grand Holy moly.
Speaker 1:Who's buying trucks like that? Who?
Speaker 2:Who, who? I got a friend that's a millionaire and owns one.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, but the average Jimmy out here, I'm just trying to drive a cool truck, right? No, that's deep. Yeah, I mean for a midsize, for the, for that Toyota, now that it went up, that, that Tacoma, they went up to like 60. Yeah, it's insane. Well, that's, mine was 63. They have got to come down. There's no way, there's no way we should be my.
Speaker 2:Oh no, because they were already high, because what happened was they already got high, they were too high, whatever it was seven years ago or something eight years ago, they got so high that they started doing seven-year loans on them. Remember when we were young. It was like five-year loans, yeah, four. When I was a kid it was five, four and five First cars I remember buying were five-year loans.
Speaker 1:Now, they'll go seven Because you wanted lower payment.
Speaker 2:But yeah, possibly but I think that was pretty standard.
Speaker 1:Won't they go eight, Do they? I don't know. When I went to buy a Harley one time, they offered me an eight. I'm like, no, look man, I don't need that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's nuts, but I mean the thing is they were already high because they went to that seven, eight years.
Speaker 2:Well, that was half the price they are now. They were like $40,000, $50,000 then, you know what I mean, when they started doing the seven-year loans. Now they're even higher. And, by the way, wages haven't moved up that much in those 10 years either. I mean for a union carpenter or union. You know, yeah, really haven't. They've moved a little bit. Yeah, socialist carpenter, it is a socialist idea. They teach you that in Marxism, that that's the first thing you do. That's part of Marxism. The first thing you do is to get the union strong. I don't want to say that.
Speaker 1:Why not? Well, have you ever watched any of the what's that one series called? Uh, I forget what it's called. The guy man, I can't think of it, but the whole thing is geared around the socialist movement. Oh man, I forget what it's called I probably didn't watch.
Speaker 2:I probably I don't like to.
Speaker 1:You know exactly what's poison my mind with things like that. You know exactly what I'm talking about. But they did that. It was a big fight for the union. I can't remember what it's called.
Speaker 2:Peaky Blinders. Oh, I haven't seen that. I've heard about it though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've heard about it. It's the whole show that it revolves around. It's not very edifying, but it's it's. It's geared around the whole idea of socialism in this guy, this one guy that fights, you know, for the free market and Fights the whole socialist movement in the world, globally. You know it's just one character right, tommy, but yeah, fighting socialism.
Speaker 2:But, it's a true story?
Speaker 1:No, but it takes that era of where there was a threat of socialism, communism, to overthrow the world and it really deals with it. But it deals with it from a perspective of like a gang of guys who rise from this impoverished, you know demographic, to this place of prominence. And then he gains notoriety and his fight then becomes the communist, socialist movement and he starts building cars and he makes liquor. Know, he makes liquor and you know the whole thing. But the whole dynamic is centered around the socialist Marxism movement and the communist movement of the like the thirties, the twenties, the thirties, the forties, and you see him wrestling with these dynamics in in the world basically. So in peppered in is all this other debauchery but yeah.
Speaker 2:So, speaking of communism, do you think that joe biden did you see that is trying to freaking like he's trying to start a war? Dude trying to like he's trying to make things rough on trump when he comes in? Huh?
Speaker 1:well, I don't know if it's so much that as much as it is greed. I think that is the industrial war complex at its on display for everyone to see, and he's made no bones about it Before he leaves. He's going to feed as much money to the war in Ukraine as possible. Why? Because all that money comes back to all his people here. It's just a money laundering scheme, and the bigger the missile, the bigger the money.
Speaker 2:I think I've even seen them at some point make an argument that well, all this money is being spent on American weapons.
Speaker 1:It's all being spent to make money and all of those people invested that are in invested interest in that, they want it to be spent like that because they make money. Every time there's a war, every time a missile goes into the air, every time they sell one, all those people get rich. We should all invest in the same stocks or we'd all be millionaires, because that's what it is, man. It's just that, and I know that. Oh no, and isn't it interesting how they use such an altruistic motive to say, no, we need to protect Ukraine from the dominance of Russia, but like who's?
Speaker 2:Well? I've been saying it over and over, I've said it a million times the problem with Russia and Ukraine, what happened was they sent Kamala over there and she talked with and she told you it was. Are you saying?
Speaker 1:it right.
Speaker 2:Because you've got to say it right. Say what right? Kamala Kamala, kamalto Kamala, right? Say what right? Kamala kamala, kamala kamala. I don't know, is it kamala or is it? I think it's kamala, but I don't know. Yeah, that's what I think it is, but they sent her over there to talk to uh zelinski ahead of time. This is when russia's board building up on the on the border and when they send her over and this is her own words she's the one who tells you exactly what ahead of time. This is when Russia's board building up on the on the border and when they send her over and this is her own words she's the one who tells you exactly what happened. She for one. She didn't talk to Putin whatsoever. She had not one conversation with Putin. She went over there and she talked just as Alinsky, and all she told him was don't worry, we got your back. Yeah, and she's proud of that. Yeah, that's the worst thing. You could have told him. That's that's like that's, that's what I've been saying, like that's the same. Why don't we?
Speaker 1:have diplomats negotiating terms of peace, yeah, why? Why doesn't? Why don't we have not, like, go ahead and do it we got you. No, we're going to fight on this side of the of the of the war exclusively. We're not going to negotiate peace. We're not going to use our influence in the world to come to terms of peace. So nobody dies, Right, we're just going to support this. Why? Because I mean, you know, because war is a big business.
Speaker 2:I don't even think it's that. I think she's too stupid, am I?
Speaker 1:wrong. I don't think she's very intellectual. I don't think she's very intellectual. I don't think she's much of an intellectual. However, I think she is the mouthpiece for the industrial war complex and she just is feeding money back to her people. But that could be Her policies. Are there to make money for her people?
Speaker 2:So they tell you to come there, and that's what they want you to say to them, right?
Speaker 1:I would assume, yes, I would assume that.
Speaker 2:So that still comes down to stupidity, because you're too stupid to say no to that. I mean, you've got to. You should step into that situation and go. No, I don't think so.
Speaker 1:Or you understand that your interest in this is selfish. You don't care about the average American or the or the innocent lives that have to die. It's all about making money, do?
Speaker 2:you think we can go without us paying any taxes? Like, do you think that citizens should have to ever pay taxes?
Speaker 1:I think taxes have a place. I think we should definitely contribute to the liberties. It has been grossly taken advantage of by very greedy people who sit at the top of the mountain to make sure that they live in a certain way, and they do it on the backs of those who pay taxes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think, when you look at like the federal government and you look at like Trump saying no tax on tips or no tax on overtime, things like that, I think maybe just no tax on wages period. That's what I think. I think that we can do it. I think it's just a redistribution of money anyways, like you've got so many people that are paying taxes that don't get returns, so what should?
Speaker 1:our taxes go to? That's a very simple way to approach this conversation. What should our taxes go towards? Roads, our military?
Speaker 2:What else? You see what I'm saying, well, I, what else you do have?
Speaker 1:to have social services, to some degree.
Speaker 2:I mean social services, as in the people that need help. You know, like me and you, we grew up.
Speaker 1:We were poor, we Okay and we'll give a percentage to yeah I mean, I think that has to happen or we give a percentage to.
Speaker 2:I mean churches can do the same thing. But churches help, yeah, but not everybody, if you ask me.
Speaker 1:In a utopian society that's what I would say Like, community, build bigger churches, yeah and so, and make them accountable for what they give to the community and make that and make a percentage of what they what comes in force it to go to the community. That was one of the things we did. I did automatically when I began to operate in full, from full capacity, I took a percentage of what we brought in and I made sure that that was invested in the community of faith. So last year we gave nearly $1 million back to our community, meaning like, like you know, like rent, you know, groceries, just just average benevolent requests that came through. $1 million nearly went back to the community of faith. So I think if we do that type of thing in the government, you just make sure that those funds of course you have to pay people to do certain things, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I think it's all just redistribution right now. I don't think that the average working Joe out there, I don't think that the taxes that you're getting taxed in your paycheck are doing anything. All they're doing is basically, by the end of the year, you've got people who barely pay taxes getting huge tax returns, and then you've got other people that aren't getting any taxes, that are back, or maybe they even owe some more. I have to pay a lot, yeah, and I'm not talking about an individual who is a business. The business should pay taxes. You know what I mean? Okay, the business should pay taxes. You know what I mean. The businesses should pay their taxes.
Speaker 1:So you're saying the business itself should pay, but not the workers of the business? Sure, really.
Speaker 2:I think none of the workers should have to pay an income tax. I don't think so. I don't feel like, I don't think it's necessary.
Speaker 1:I mean, what they have proved to us over the last four years is that we could do a whole lot more with our tax dollars, and we're not willing to do.
Speaker 2:We're taking $35 trillion of debt and then giving away $40 billion. I think they don't need our tax dollars.
Speaker 1:They do not. That is what they approve of. That's the way I've seen it. I think you're right.
Speaker 2:I think you're right. There's enough income out there in taxing the other businesses and, by the way, there's enough, like you say, roads. I thought those were paid for when you buy gas. There's a tax in your gas. In fact it's like 80 cents a gallon or 75 cents a gallon is tax for the roads. Why do you need my tax for?
Speaker 1:that. So I'm talking services like police, fire, those types of things. Yes, military protection we need to build our military. What does your property?
Speaker 2:taxes go towards? I don't know, police, fire Right, social services Right and how many times do we have to pay? That. But why do we got to pay the income tax to the federal government? That's what I'm telling you. I don't think we do. I don't think we do. I think we pay enough taxes outside of that Sales tax. You're paying. Property tax, you're paying.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm down. I mean, if you're suggesting getting rid of some of those, yes, I'm down, I think income taxes will just disappear.
Speaker 2:I don't think there's any reason to have it.
Speaker 1:I think it should be one-tenth of what it is right now.
Speaker 2:I think it should be gone. I think it should be gone.
Speaker 1:In gone Income tax? I think should be gone, other than say Isn't that what Trump is proposing? No, not that I'm aware of, with the tariffs and everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, that's the way I guess it was in the 1800s, when America went at its root before. I guess that was.
Speaker 1:We didn't have income tax whatsoever. And I remember. So what's the income tax now?
Speaker 2:What's the rate? It depends on what you make. It could be upwards of 43%. You know what I mean. That's? I mean that's a lot. And then that don't even count your property taxes, and you know what Property taxes are. So, like you know, when we talk about roads and cops, police, I mean that's your property taxes. But it's not like when you buy a car which I feel it should be but when you buy a car you pay a tax, sales tax, on the car. When you buy it, when you buy a house, you pay tax on it every year, just every year. You have it, you just keep paying it. So you're renting your house the rest of your life, no matter what, no matter what, you're running that house. Now I will give credit to like cities, like rocky river, that, um, if you're retired in that neighborhood, you should not, you don't have to pay it. And in west virginia, if you're a veteran.
Speaker 1:You don't have to pay it. Veterans shouldn't have to pay for hospital um medicare medical costs. That those are things we should do right away. I think we do that already. No, we do not. I'm pretty sure they get free medical Veterans do. Their families? I don't know.
Speaker 2:I think so, I think their families do too.
Speaker 1:They should. Am I wrong or no? I don't know that they do, but they should.
Speaker 2:I know that they do, for sure. That's why we have all the VA hospitals. Yeah, and I don't know enough about it because I'm not a veteran myself. I'm not either, but I don't know exactly. I don't know enough about it, but I think there was a new program that come out, where they're or at least it's been proposed, maybe that they're trying to reimburse for regular hospitals rather than just VA hospitals.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's what I was going to say. So what's the deal with the VA hospitals?
Speaker 2:Because VA hospitals have all the same services. They have dental services, they have heart surgeries, they have all that stuff. They have all the different services and the VA does cover, I believe, outside of there too, Like if you had a heart attack and you end up going to a. I'm pretty sure that's covered. Yeah, I mean if you're.
Speaker 1:It doesn't feel like it to me, though.
Speaker 2:It doesn't feel like it to me, though it doesn't feel like there's been some complaints that it's probably not as good a service as it should be. You know what I mean. There's been complaints about that. It should be for all of us, but I believe it's always been.
Speaker 1:It's all corrupt, right? I mean we know that, right, we know that the insurance industry as a whole is corrupt. I mean I pay insurance for my buildings and a tornado came through and destroyed all the buildings, yeah, and and I got 18, 1800 bucks. So the end, that's, that's you. That's not now. You didn't go fight it, or I got an attorney, but then you know like, but it's like the people within the entire industry know the racket, so they're like they protect themselves in the racket. So, racket, you call a company and say I need you to come inspect this roof and tell me whether or not I can get it. The insurance company. It's like why do I have to convince an insurance company to repair a roof?
Speaker 2:after a tornado. Their attorneys are on payroll too. It's not like they have to pay an extra amount.
Speaker 1:They'll wait you out, they don't care. The whole thing's corrupt. The insurance for medical is corrupt. My son had a degenerative eye disease. We tried to get the insurance company to pay for it to cover. It wouldn't cover. It had to pay it out of pocket. It was a degenerative eye disease. What is that? There was treatment I forget the name of it but his cones and everything. He had to have these surgeries done so they didn't continue to squeeze or something. It's been a while since he's had it, but we had to pay out of pocket. The insurance companies wouldn't cover the cost of the surgery that he had to have to stop the degenerative eye disease. Had to pay it out of pocket. Wow, Meantime. You could go get a gastric bypass because you have terrible eating habits, but my son has a degenerative eye disease. They pay for a bypass. Yes, Really yes, gastric bypass. You can get gastric bypass paid for, but not a degenerative autism.
Speaker 2:Why don't they just pay for?
Speaker 1:Ozempic man. I don't know, I don't know why they don't. Anyhow, it makes you want to rage against these, oh, I think the medical.
Speaker 2:I think it's all a big scam. There's no reason for them to make you healthy. That's the biggest problem. The auto insurance, not even just the insurance. I think the medical, the doctors, but the insurance, I think, are the biggest problem. I believe that they're the reason that, and I even will go one step further, I don't even think it's insurance companies as much as it's attorneys and freelance lawsuits.
Speaker 1:Everybody, everybody, that's what I'm saying. Everybody plays the game inside the system and then, once everybody gets to playing the game inside the system, they're like and that was. I saw that in COVID. I saw that when COVID went down. I'm like, oh, everybody's playing the game. They got to protect the game, right. So nobody's going to narc on nobody because, listen, if it's COVID, it's COVID, right.
Speaker 2:So let's not, so let's not expose the game here, but these frivolous lawsuits have caused insurance companies to skyrocket Like they're they're like well, I mean, that's what you get.
Speaker 1:That's what you get when you, when you deal with that level of corruption where you just you're just poking it at, I mean, they're just bleeding out the average American to the point where you can't drive a car without insurance, you can't live in a house without insurance, you can't go to the hospital without insurance, you can't drink water without insurance. It's like you can't do anything in this country without somebody taxing you, charging you. I got to go down the road to get permission to drive a car that's paid for. I got to go get a little sticker from the government to say, hey, man, this is a paid-for vehicle, but I need you to give me permission to drive it. So tell me what the embezzlement fee is for this.
Speaker 1:It's a privilege, not a right, come on man. And that doesn't make any sense. I got to go down to the Ohio Wildlife Association to pay to go on public land paid for by tax dollars to hunt an animal and kill. But that's to benefit everybody, though. Who does that benefit? Why do I have to pay to go fishing in a lake that nobody? You didn't make the fish, you didn't make the lake.
Speaker 2:Yeah but you don't want them to run out either. They do control. I mean, if they're doing their job and they try, the goal is to try and keep them from getting too much fish so that you're not going in. And I mean those things. I understand. They're good systems in play when it comes to hunting, like a hunting license just to make sure that somebody is the government don't own it. I get that, but if we go out and kill all the animals, then there's none.
Speaker 2:Yeah don't kill them. But there's always that one guy that wants a little more. Yeah, you know what I mean. Good for him. What if that guy is just killing them all, taking them and then he's charging you 20 pounds for the meat $20 a pound, then the system should fix itself.
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't know, but it's just okay. Let's just say all right, we need that service to monitor the industry.
Speaker 2:It's too much. It's too much on top of the taxes I pay every day to just exist on the planet. No, I don't disagree. I don't disagree, but I think the income could go away.
Speaker 1:Maybe I wouldn't be so outraged if the insurance company actually honored the contract I entered with them. Maybe I wouldn't be so outraged. That's true that you were forced to have. I was forced legally to have.
Speaker 1:Maybe I wouldn't be so outraged by the green man in the woods if I didn't have to pay so much out of my own pocket after I pay insurance medical insurance for my son to see. Maybe I wouldn't be so outraged, but until then I'm going to be a little outraged to see. Maybe I wouldn't be so outraged, but until then I'm going to be a little outraged, and hopefully one of these Avengers does something about that that Trump's hiring right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know what they can do about the health insurance. Obama ruined that and now Trump, in his last one, said that he didn't know what to do because he didn't want to leave people without insurance. You know what I mean? Because he's worried that there's people that are out there that that'll end up without insurance. Now don't you feel like the free market will fix it? It did before. I mean, it worked just fine before that. Why do we have they had? That's the problem. They had like uh, what? What did they call? Like gr? I think is what it was called like for um, if you were like a single guy or whatever and you needed welfare and insurance and it was limited, if I remember right I can't I never had to do it, but I did know people that were on it I feel like it was only good for like a year.
Speaker 1:Why can't I just live?
Speaker 2:without it.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying you can't, but what I'm saying like why can't, if just let me not have it, let me not have auto insurance, let me not have medical insurance? Just let me not have it, just let me live without it instead.
Speaker 2:But no, I'm legally responsible to have it. See, because remember it used to be you'd always hear like that hospital has to take care of you. You go there, they have to take care of you. They bill you for it. If you don't pay, you don't pay it. Oh well, and that was that now. And then they'd say, oh well, you know, medical has got to be so high Cause you got to cover the people that come in and can't even pay their bill. So then that At that time, medical was $400 a month and it wasn't that big of a deal.
Speaker 2:Yeah, even in 10 years, I feel like all Obama did at this point, in my opinion, is just make sure the hospitals get their money. I feel like that's the only thing that happened in that case was that. You know what I mean? He made sure that they got their money. So that's how I feel Obama. That's all he did. I don't think he did anything to help the average Joe, because you could always go to the hospital and they had to take care of you. With the Affordable Health Care Act, yeah, I mean they still do have to.
Speaker 1:If you don't have it, if you go there, I think they have a moral right that they have to take care of you. They definitely have proven to us that they could provide a lot more service to the American people than they're willing to provide by what they've done in the last four years that they've given billions, billions, billions of dollars to foreign countries.
Speaker 2:Wow, we're $35 trillion in debt, yeah, that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1:Billions they've given and neglected average Americans.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, it doesn't add up, and that's what I'm saying. They don't need our tax dollars, exactly. Yeah, it doesn't add up, and that's what I'm saying. They don't need our tax dollars. Exactly, they don't. I mean, there's enough in the sales tax, there's enough in the property tax. There's enough for what they need to do. Let's be honest, the services that we're getting, that we're actually getting, they're getting enough out of the sales tax, out of the property tax, out of the oil and gasoline taxes and oil tax, all those different little things that you get. I think there's even taxes now, like when you go tanning in a tanning bed, if I remember they're still doing that I saw.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I never go to tanning bed.
Speaker 1:somebody said they told me a story. It's just crazy. They told me a story the other day that one of those places uh, that, that real cheap workout place right now Planet Fitness, planet Fitness. There was some guy that went into a tanning bed in Planet Fitness and they didn't find him for four days. Really, yeah, he was sitting there and he was basically just like a blob of jelly just laying there, dead for four days. But those things turn off all the way I know they did, they did, but he died.
Speaker 1:He died in the bed and they didn't find him for four days and my question is they didn't clean it.
Speaker 2:That's my question, like somebody not responsible to clean this up. Oh, that's nasty isn't that crazy.
Speaker 1:I don't know how true that story is, by the way, I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 2:Somebody see that's that's like what with my daughter? I send her a news story. I wonder if that's true. A news story? Yes, I wonder if that's true. Yes, I wonder. That's where we're at in this world. I don't know.
Speaker 1:Could you just go back to the innocence of being a child and knowing that you turn on the news and basically what they're saying is facts, but we don't have that anymore. I don't know.
Speaker 2:I didn't watch the news when I was a child.
Speaker 1:I mean, I just kind of remembered the news being boring, because, yeah, that's what news would be. It would just be basically boring, without opinion attached. It probably still is to kids. You think it's boring?
Speaker 1:I don't know it's like watching WWE nowadays when you turn on the news Well, yeah, this election cycle for sure, for sure, holy shit. You know why? Because then I started watching them all, especially after, after. I was like, oh, I've got to watch this, I've got to see what's being said on the other sides of these aisles, so I'd turn on Fox and I'd turn on CNN, msnbc.
Speaker 2:The View, yeah, the.
Speaker 1:View. I'm watching them all now because I'm like I want to see the outrage. I want to see, like, the tears that are being cried. Oh my gosh, the world's going to come to an end.
Speaker 2:But yeah, how did you feel about Whoopi Goldberg when you were 18 years old?
Speaker 1:I loved Whoopi Goldberg. She was so cool. She was so cool. Now she's just a hateful, spiteful.
Speaker 2:I mean, I had that conversation with Bobby, who was just walked up here. That's my uncle. Tell him to come here and sit down. No, he took off already, but I had that conversation with him. The sad thing is I loved Whoopi Goldberg.
Speaker 1:Whoopi was funny.
Speaker 2:She was hilarious. She was hilarious. She was such a good actress. What happened? I don't know man. I don't know why she felt like she had to go out and just be nasty to everybody. She's so angry. Yeah, I don't know where it came from. Be funny again.
Speaker 1:Whoopi.
Speaker 2:Just go be funny. Yeah, I mean Ted Danson must have did a number on her. What happened to Ted Danson?
Speaker 1:I don't know, they were married right Were they married yeah man she's got like going after this bakery.
Speaker 2:Did you see that? I did see that she kind of doubled down on it now, like she's like that, like at first she didn't even a name, who they were, yeah, and then they put themselves out there and now she's doubling down, don't you, don't you?
Speaker 1:feel like that, like in this particular, like political arena, suddenly all of the rich and famous and all of these Hollywood stars have lost their influence. It's like it's gone, like it used to have some, some leverage, but I feel like it's gone now. I feel like, I mean, I feel like America just wants you to sing.
Speaker 2:I think America just wants you to be funny, like they don't they're just like don't tell me how to think, just go be funny, just go sing a song.
Speaker 1:Just, you're a country singer sing a country song.
Speaker 2:I don't think it's changed for life.
Speaker 1:Beyonce, just go up there and sing Kid Rock Kid. Rock Right, I think they, I don't know, but I just sting, sing though like yeah, I don't know, I just, I've just, I've always felt that way, like their life doesn't affect the rest of us like that's not just just play basketball, and that's another way.
Speaker 2:I love lebron james too. I mean I still do, I'm he's, he's got his opinions or whatever, but I mean I, I just he, I have he was a. I loved lebron james, you know. I mean I was a big fan of lebron james, you know, and I mean after he left, I was just like I mean I wasn't going to go watch the Miami Heat, but I'm just like yeah, whatever. But when he came home I was ecstatic.
Speaker 1:You know I mean too. Yeah, I remember when the announcement was made.
Speaker 2:I left work early. I felt like he really loved Cleveland. I feel like he really had that letter.
Speaker 1:Remember the letter I'm coming home? The song attached.
Speaker 2:It was such a story, oh my.
Speaker 1:God, I've got goosebumps just now. Just saying it, I know I felt him. I'm like, oh man, that's such a good story. But then he got. So his voice got bought, you can tell when the voice gets bought.
Speaker 2:The worst part about that is that he has had no issues here. I mean in Ohio, and I don't think that he actually did in Miami either, but he's had a lot of issues in LA, like a lot of stupid shit, like people writing racist shit on his fence and stuff Like why do you want to be there? Why would you want to?
Speaker 1:be there. He should have just listened to his. I don't know if he had a PR guy, but I felt like he did when he was here.
Speaker 1:I think it was all his people, though he had only hired his own people, I feel like he had a good PR group around him when he was here because he would answer questions right down the middle. He was very, he was very in the beginning of his career. He was very careful how he handled like cultural issues. He was just mindful of it, I felt like. And then the more popular he became, the more records he racked up, the more he got to rubbing around Hollywood shoulders. Then all of a sudden he got influenced. I don't even think it was that.
Speaker 2:I think the problem, the problem and the reason they were able to sell the racial, the racist bullshit to on Trump. The whole reason is Trump's fault. It's all Trump's fault.
Speaker 1:Trump went after Obama and Obama was a popular president, you don't feel like a lot of the voices that created that hysteria around Trump and used and tried to use, influences. You don't believe that was a conspired effort.
Speaker 2:No, I believe that trump caused his own problem. You think so, I know so how I see it.
Speaker 1:But before, before, okay, he was a polarizing figure. He said things that he was very direct and he said things but but but before he was trump, before he, before he was that guy in, but before he was Trump, before he was that guy in the presidency. He was always that guy before and they all loved him.
Speaker 2:But Obama was the left's person. That was their person. So you're blaming the animosity on Obama.
Speaker 2:No Trump going after Obama when Obama was president. I think that that's when Trump he inflamed all that and he made it easy for them to call him racist, but he wasn't going after race. He was going after Obama. He wasn't going after race, but he was going after a very popular president at the time. I believe that time has shown that he wasn't a great president, but he always was a good speaker. You felt like he was doing a decent job. I wasn't happy with his other stuff. I never liked his policies and I said that right from the beginning. I didn't vote for him.
Speaker 1:I don't think anybody paid attention to his policies because he was so brilliantly warm and competent. He had charisma as soon as Trump went after him right away.
Speaker 2:a very because he was so brilliantly warm and competent, yes, and he had charisma, and as soon as Trump went after him right away a very popular president at the time he went after him, and then, when he runs for president, they just made it simple call him racist, and it's believable if you're watching just a quick corpse and you've seen him go after Obama for four years, five years, whatever it was that he went after obama for. He was constantly with the you know birth certificate and, uh, you know he's not a us citizen and all that different, you know, making racist, though it doesn't. All I'm saying is that's how they were able to sell it, I think, because if you take obama out of the equation, there's no way you could ever sell Trump as a racist. There's nothing in his career, that's ever. They have that thing where there is dad's apartments or whatever, but they were like they actually had more races in there than they were required by law.
Speaker 2:Whenever they actually the charges were brought against them, but it wasn't, it didn't matter. I mean, that's just like just now, they brought up charges on JD Tomlinson, but then they were dropped as soon as they went to court, because there wasn't, they were unfound charges. Did he win. They were dropped.
Speaker 1:They didn't even Did he win the election? No, no, no. Who was the other?
Speaker 2:guy who knows All he posted was vote JD out. Oh man, his name is Tony Cilio. Really.
Speaker 1:So he won like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. Basically they put him in a bad light. This is what happened. They basically brought him up on charges that had no stand in them, okay, and when it got reported it got reported that he was indicted. Him and Burge were indicted it said it was not true, they were not indicted. I actually had JD on here. I saw that, yeah, we had him on here, and he said he'd said on the pocket, I've never been indicted. I said, well, I thought you were. I mean, I'm pretty sure that's what they reported. It's kind of what it sounded like. I can't remember specifically, but I'm pretty sure it said that he was indicted.
Speaker 1:That's what Trump should do, man. He should get him a good group, a good group of journalists, an education policy. Put it together to where we create honest journalism in America again.
Speaker 2:Well, it'd be easy. That'd be better. All you need to do at this point. There's only two things you need to do. Elon Musk already has Twitter.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, but don't you think that universities are a big contributing factor to the corrupt journalism?
Speaker 2:I think they're starting to turn. You think they're turning, they're showing. Haven't you seen that, like that college kids was for Trump.
Speaker 2:I think it's starting to turn, because I think that the biggest thing you have to do is get the real information out there, and the information that's getting out there is being censored right now, and YouTube is guilty of it as much as anybody. They are terrible at it. And Facebook is also guilty of it. They are terrible at it and they're censoring things. So I think that that's what, like the same thing that Twitter is doing where it's the wild wild west.
Speaker 1:It's not the wild, wild west man. You should have to go and critically, think for yourself and weigh the opinions presented. Sure Right, sure Right, but journalism should be this, this unaffected area where we raise up young minds to, to help America think critically, as opposed to opinion based. These are not op eds we need. We need journalists. We need honest journalism, the accounting of the facts of things, as opposed to, as opposed to being bought by one side or the other. And these universities are primarily funded with liberal tax dollars.
Speaker 2:You're always going to have people unfortunately, in journalism you're always going to have people that their opinion is going to sway the way they believe, and I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1:Opinion is going to sway the way they believe, and I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2:It's the flat out lying, where you're being dishonest, like when he the North Carolina thing where he said uh, uh, they're fine people on both sides and how they just advertly, like, leave out the fact that he said I'm not talking about the Ku Klux Klan or the. You know that. That's just like do you know? You're lying. And the same thing happened with uh, with him saying that, uh, liz Cheney, should, should, uh, line up in front of the guns. I mean lining up in front of the gun she's talking about. He's talking about she is making the decisions to put people out in that situation. But she's not. That's all he was saying. No-transcript, but she's not. That's all he was saying. She's just putting people out there. And there's people out there that hear the quirks and they believe that that's what he actually said was to put her in front of a firing squad. They believe that wholeheartedly. They didn't ban that on YouTube. You know what I'm saying. They're very selective, you're right.
Speaker 1:They shut my Facebook account down. Yeah, but they banned things like they shut my Facebook account down. I had to rebuild my Facebook account. Oh really, and I don't know why, but yeah, they. Just One day I woke up it was gone.
Speaker 2:I went to YouTube and they had. They had. They got rid of something because I questioned the results of the 2020 election. Yeah, like you can't do that, you can't do that, I mean?
Speaker 1:but I mean I was so mad Like you took my Facebook down, dude. Yeah, I had pictures, images, memories. They own them. What in the world? Like? I'm like what? And all I was doing was really preaching the gospel. I'm not out here, I'm not telling you it's probably hate speech. They probably figured Well. Then I had to restart. I think it might've been on Rogan.
Speaker 2:I think he had a guy on there that he was talking about. Two intellectual people were having a conversation on I believe it was Facebook I think it was what it was Facebook and they took it down and said it was hate speech. And they were just basically talking about the difference between Muslim beliefs and Christian beliefs and they said it was hate speech. And they were just basically talking about the difference between Muslim beliefs and, and you know, christian beliefs and they said it was hate speech. And they were. He said it was a very civilized conversation about the two things.
Speaker 1:Jordan Peterson. I've mentioned it before. He has some really interesting perspectives on like, say, the liberal uh, like the, the liberal left and then the conservative right. He was like his. I don't know if this generalizes, but I left and then the conservative right. He was like his. I don't know if this generalizes, but I heard him say this one time he's. It was interesting.
Speaker 1:The perspective was that you need the, you need the liberal left to push us into progress because, like it or not, they're pushing us in a direction of progressing past. You know what? Pushing us in a direction of progressing past where we are stuck, and pushing us into, like one more time. I don't ascribe to this theory, but it was an interesting theory. He said the progressive left pushes us forward in our thinking, in our beliefs, in our challenging of our old ways and thoughts, he said. But then there's the conservative right that's there to anchor us to the sacred and while I believe in one more than the other, it's the anchoring to the sacred. I don't believe there needs to be a progress made past the anchoring in what is right. I thought it was an interesting perspective.
Speaker 2:It's an interesting perspective because when you're anchored in that conservative beliefs, when you don't understand what's going on in somebody who's not, and you know it's like the experts you know they always talk about the experts, the experts when they call it science. Well, the experts that were given a science in 1910 believe very different. So it's a progression and that's something that has to happen. And he's right. I don't know that it means that we have to have men and women in the same bathroom, but I don't think that's what it meant at all and I think that's what, what?
Speaker 1:and I think the, the, the liberal like right, the, the progressive liberal of the of the democrat side of the aisle, has been taken hostage by lunacy, like by, just, yes, absolute hysteria, and it's been, it's been taken hostage by a percentage of society that is nefarious, perverted almost not a conservative, old-fashioned conservative like there used to be.
Speaker 2:I'd argue that oh, there is.
Speaker 1:I mean the, the. I mean like, clearly there is because trump's not it. Well, the. The majority of america said that's too much. I get it. Conservatism still exists because he won the popular vote. He won the House.
Speaker 2:I get it, but I don't think it was entered a conservative.
Speaker 1:I believe that Trump's stances are the exact same as Clinton's were.
Speaker 1:I would agree. I would agree that they have been so successful at pushing us to the left, the middle. They've pushed the middle to the left so far that now to believe in the left and right in one week of abortion is where before, previously, there wouldn't have been one conservative voter that would have said, no, abortion is not permissible, permissible at any stage of pregnancy, pregnancy. And so they've moved that so far to the left that now conservatives are like well, we'll give you up to the first two, three weeks. You know, yeah, and that's what they've been successful at doing, and and I, and I'm hoping that, um, which is, you know, this is just my hope, but you would hope that that this shift so far left would be a wake-up call for for young people to say now we need to bring this back and we need to bring this back.
Speaker 2:I believe it is. I feel like it's happening. I believe that's why he got all the young college votes.
Speaker 1:I feel like it's happening.
Speaker 2:I think that young kids are. You know, we want adults. I mean, we do want adults, even when you're a kid, you need adults in your life and you want those adults in your life. You want to do what?
Speaker 1:you want to do but you want to get away with it you don't want to do it because you're just allowed Right, which is the part of why some people I don't necessarily like the rhetoric of Trump as much as I do the policies. The rhetoric is like stop, could you please be presidential.
Speaker 2:I don't even feel like he's had bad rhetoric, not lately, not lately.
Speaker 1:I feel, like he's trying to be more presidential. I think he's just accepted it. I think he's very self-aware of himself, or more self-aware than he previously was. In his first you know where he could be, like the guy who fires you before. Now he's like no, I need to be a president. It's bizarre too.
Speaker 2:There's a lot more cussing going on. I know. Please stop that Politicians. Why did they do that all of a sudden? I don't know, it's not cool. Stop, I don't like, it's icky and I'm a cusser. I cuss my ass off. You're just saying I use the F word? Yeah, I will all day long.
Speaker 1:My wife is like that. She's like don't cuss, don't cuss, I'm like I'm. And whereas I grew up in the you know around people who swore bother me so I could be in a room, you cuss, it rolls right off of me. But I don't want to see reagan, but certain people it does bother me right, you get certain people you're like no, please, no, I believe so good you're too pure for that.
Speaker 2:You know, it's like when my wife says something that they're like just off-putting.
Speaker 1:I'm like don't say that, you're too pretty for that, you know you can't talk like that. Let me talk like that. You can't talk like that. Let me talk like that. You can't talk like that. Or it goes back to the conservative perspective of like I need my wife to be soft. Sure, I'll be the hard one. Yeah, you be soft If you need the kids to be disciplined, I don't want you yelling at them. I don't need you like being me, I'll be me, you know, right, I just want. It bothers me when my wife shows a masculine behavior. It's like, oh, don't do that, don't do that. It's terrifying to me. Like, cause, I'm like, I must be not doing what I'm supposed to be doing. If you have to, if you have to usurp my role and take on masculinity, then I'm not doing what I'm supposed to be doing as your husband, as your, your partner.
Speaker 2:That's. That's your own issues. That has nothing to do with her.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, I don't know you should talk to somebody about that.
Speaker 2:That's not healthy. You said that's not good. I mean, a woman is curious and wants to try out and see if she can do it.
Speaker 1:So what my grandmother was that person.
Speaker 2:My grandmother was that person that, like she wanted to like prove she could do this or prove she could do that. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:I don't have a problem with that. I have a problem when, when it becomes aggressively masculine, like overtly too strong, like it. Just I don't, I don't. Yeah, I guess you would call me one of those Like yeah, you got issues, you got issues for sure, you know what.
Speaker 2:You know what the greatest, the greatest ever. What the best? What is it? What is it called? A? Uh, the best compliment you can get is when somebody emulates you. Okay.
Speaker 1:So it is, it is. I often say that that's true.
Speaker 2:It's not drunken. That means they think highly of you and want to just see what it's like to be in your shoes for a minute. That's all Nothing wrong with that. Well, yeah, I don't know, You're my daughter. My daughter actually does things. She's strong. I mean, I come home one day and I lived in South Lorraine, my first house and I come home one day. We had it, had the original, like you know, the tile, the pink tile, you know countertops and stuff that they used to have when the fifties or whatever, when they built those still had that in the counter and the kitchen and the bathroom and a couple of pieces had broken off and I thought, well, I well, I mean, I'm gonna replace this anyways, or whatever you know, and I come home one day and it's fixed.
Speaker 1:She fixed it. She was four years old. I'm done living in this house like this. I'll put some pants on fixing stuff.
Speaker 2:How she is man I pulled up one time and I had a whole truck full of mulch. I'd bought the bags because that house, specifically like you, had to go through the garage, like through the door in the garage, and it's just too much to take the bags back there to mulch it. It was just easier. So I got this whole truckload of probably 45 bags of mulch, something like that. You know, two and a half yard bags. She comes out around the same time, like three, four years old. She goes can I help you? And I, being a smart ass like I am, I go yeah, you can unload the truck. And I walked in the house and I come back out. She's got it all unloaded. No way, swear to god, unloaded.
Speaker 1:Every freaking bag unloaded out of the truck my daughter's like that she's real like don't tell me what to do, but, but in a cons, I don't know how, I don't know how, but it's somehow very conservative. That she's real like don't tell me what to do, but, but in a cons, I don't know how, I don't know how, but it's somehow very conservative, like she's just, she still thinks like me there. Uh, she's still very opinionated like me, but she's very soft and secure in her womanhood and just, I mean she, just I mean I can see myself in her but it's like, it's me as like a tender, nurturing, loving woman which is really weird to look at. You know, you look at your kid and see that it's really crazy, but she does it, yeah.
Speaker 2:Those are your issues. I have issues that's definitely your issue.
Speaker 1:There's nothing wrong with it. I mean, none of us want a manly woman.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying no, no.
Speaker 1:That's not what I mean. I just mean like they could play hopscotch a little bit. You know a?
Speaker 2:little double dutch.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just, I guess I'm saying I don't need her to be like who cares what you need? What does she need? Yeah, well, eat, yeah, that's what I'm saying, I think it freaks me out.
Speaker 2:Maybe she needs it sometimes. It has nothing to do with you. The world does not revolve around you. I know you think it does, but it does not.
Speaker 1:I do not think that Jimmy's over here. He's lying. Guys. We're sitting here having conversation. That's not all. I meant we're having Thanksgiving dinner. Who's?
Speaker 2:cooking the turkey Me. What do?
Speaker 1:you mean Me, what yeah?
Speaker 2:I mean, what are you doing? What do you?
Speaker 1:mean that's a woman's job. Those are not traditional gender roles. You can't do this. You're just going to freak the world out. She's going to have to go outside and work on a truck and you're doing it on a work on a grill, or in the house um, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I don't know what I've decided yet to do. I'll cook some kind of beef, some kind of turkey, but one of the things I thought about was as a kid uh, how, how, thanksgiving has, like the whole, the whole holiday for me, has just become something totally different, and and now I just want back the innocence of that, the innocence of what I'm different. What do you mean? Well, it's just. It's just like the more you know, the, the, the, the less well we're. Really, what it comes down to is like I'm like man.
Speaker 1:I just want to go back to when I was a kid and the life that I lived was so simple and, or the, at least the, the way I saw it was simple, and this is our family and we all love each other and we're all going to have dinner together and life is going to be like this, this, this ball of of security and strength, and our family is our family. And then, you know, the older I get, the more I'm like man. Families are all jacked up, man. We're all messed up. You know we're mad at each other, we're angry, we got, you know, we got issues and uh, we had different families.
Speaker 2:One Thanksgiving, my, my aunt.
Speaker 1:Cheryl, come over to table and beat the shit out of my dad's girlfriend.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I mean that was your normal.
Speaker 1:Oh man, jimmy, I'm sorry. Now those are your issues, jimmy that's a true story. I can't believe it. I just like man, I just want to go back. So I'm like, I'm really focused on creating an atmosphere of security around the dinner table and bringing people to this place, of saying it exists man, there's a family that's still here. Still, one of my favorite holidays is Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2:I love Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1:For some reason, I'm starting to have more of an affinity for Thanksgiving than I do for any of the others.
Speaker 2:That's always been one of my favorites. We were doing it here for a while because my mom likes doing it, because I'm closed, and then my mom likes cooking in the big kitchen and all that stuff and that's fun to her, you know. And it's fun to her, you know. But I think that I've gotten to a point now where I don't like it here because I want to like, I want to be home, comfortable, sit down. Everybody sits down, enjoys, even if I'm not at home, but there's like a couch to sit on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know what I mean Football game in the back. Yeah, yeah, I like it. Christmas music on in one room and just this whole that vibe. I'm it better that way.
Speaker 2:You know Christmas music on in one room and just this whole that vibe. I'm looking for that vibe this year more than any other. I mean, it's a cool vibe when we do it here too.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying, it's not I dig it yeah, but it gets so big, there's so many people come and my mom likes it. She always likes putting on the big Thanksgiving dinner and it might have been 2020. She did a fantastic job. I mean she was. I mean I don't know how she did such a good job, but it was. I mean everything came out great and we had those when she first got the house or whatever. We were over there and that one was a great Thanksgiving too. But I enjoyed that more than I do like here in the restaurant, because I just like that being in the house with a couch, just relax. It's good stuff.
Speaker 1:That's what I want for my, my family this year, and just like it's like everybody. Just come on, man, let's stop being mad at each other. I have a dream, divided. I have a dream.
Speaker 2:Okay, talk to me, I'm okay. I have a friend that has a cabin. His family has a cam. His name is michael belt. His friends or his family has a cabin that's huge and it can house their whole family and they all go and meet there for thanksgiving and they do the whole weekend there. Is it good, he? It sounds amazing. It sounds wonderful. It's the whole family's there and it's not just for one day, they're there for the weekend. They go hunting, they go paint. Oh man, that would be, they go.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's like it sounds like it's like 40 of them, you know what I mean it seems like that, as long as, like, there was no division or anger, angst or you know, I just feel like I mean you just look at every family today and every family I talk to man, it's like there's always some, they're just mad at each other. There's always going to be something going on. It's not that big a deal, man. Let's just get over it. I don't disagree.
Speaker 2:I'm the first person to like I don't hold grudges. I'm somebody that doesn't hold grudges. I can't either. I don't think it's healthy for me or anybody else. I can't either.
Speaker 1:It's not. I don't. I don't think it's healthy for me or anybody else. Do you think a holding a grudge is the same as holding?
Speaker 2:principles. Holding a grudge is the same as holding principles. No, I don't think so. No, they're not. They're different. Okay, I don't. I hope not, yeah.
Speaker 1:Make sure I didn't have some weird thing in my mind.
Speaker 2:Cause I'm like, no, I'm still, and not be mad at you, for we don't have to agree, for we don't have to agree.
Speaker 1:Yeah right, I mean we don't have to agree at all on anything. Right? I love, I love and like people, because loving and liking is two different things. Man like you force to love certain people, but you force to like anybody yeah, I don't want to be around the people you like, right?
Speaker 2:in fact, I think it'd be a boring world if we all agreed.
Speaker 1:I don't yeah, and I'm not looking for that. So just stop stop forcing everybody to think like you. Like I'm just, you know, I mean, like I don't think like me, it's fine, I'm not mad if you don't think like me, right, you know? I mean, I'm sitting across the table from you. Like you don't think like me?
Speaker 2:no, but I love a lot more, like I know I mean we really do, but I I mean what I'm saying is we don't have to make those points of difference division. That's me. We don't have to turn them into division. We don't think alike about a lot of things, but we get along great. But there's a lot of things we don't think alike about.
Speaker 1:There's so many people I like and don't think like. I love that. I love hanging around with that guy.
Speaker 2:In fact, there's people that do dumbass shit, but I kind of envy that I'm kind of like I wish I could do dumb shit like that and be okay with it. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yes, there's a lot of people I'm like why do you like him? I don't know man, he's fun to be around.
Speaker 1:He's a jerk, but man, I really like to hang around with him. He's funny to be around. Yeah, there's a lot of people I'm like you're Uncle Vern, that dude, uncle Vern is Uncle Vern, he's calling you out. No, I didn't say that about Uncle Vern. Uncle Vern, uncle Vern, man, he's like he was a superhero for me for for many years. Uncle Vern was, he was a superhero dude, like I believe it. He was like the guy like don't mess with me, I got an uncle burn. You know what I mean, like and and uh, really the. I attribute a lot of you know the man that I became and becoming to, to those really moments of nurturing, like forming at young, at a young age. Yeah, he was very masculine, very strong, yeah for sure.
Speaker 1:So he was a superhero for a while.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my dad was my superhero. I thought he was amazing. I don't know why.
Speaker 1:I mean I did and I didn't. I don't know Today my dad is I did and I didn't.
Speaker 2:I don't know Today my dad is yeah, I did and I didn't I don't know how to explain that Like he annoyed the shit out of me, but I also never felt safer than when he was around man.
Speaker 1:I didn't know my dad until I was in the sixth grade, right, and then, you know, just went through those weird cocky years of teenage, you know. And then, as I got older, I began to understand some of the struggles of my father and then, and then when he died, man, oh man, when he died he broke my heart for the last six years of his life. He was such a man he was. He was a solid dude man and, and you know, you would look back and people ask me things. You know, I'm like I can't remember a bad thing about my father. He said you didn't know him until you were sick. That's not, that's a bro. There's nothing. I can't, man, I can't speak negatively about that guy.
Speaker 1:Every experience I ever had with him was one where I learned man, like where he just those last six years were gold to me, those were gold. He, those last six years were gold to me, those were gold. He came into my office and I was older, I was doing all right, I knew the Lord, I was strong. I never really held any resentment towards him for anything, no matter what was said. I just said I'm good, I'm not mad at my dad, I don't got daddy issues. He came in and he didn't tell me this, but I think he knew he was dying. He came into my office and he said I need you to forgive me.
Speaker 1:I need to ask your forgiveness, I'm like dad it's so good man, it's no big deal, man, it's nothing to forgive. And then I heard the Lord tell me like you have to tell him he's forgiven because he's in the jail of the prison of unforgiveness, that he feels that he did you wrong. And so there I just say, look, we're never gonna have this conversation again. You're, you're forgiven. That there's nothing. There's nothing between us. We're good, we're solid, dad. And he said, uh, remind you, I'm, I'm, I'm a grown man, right, right, you know. And uh, he said, look, I want to do something. He said, I want to do something to prove to you that I'm your father. What can I do for you? And I just sat there, I just looked at him like you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like I don't need any time. I don't need any time.
Speaker 1:Come on, reese, bobby, way to ruin the moment, jimmy. He said what can I do for you? I'm kidding you, man, I'm not kidding you. He said what can I do for you? I said, look, I thought about it for a minute. I said, well, what's the thing I need? I don't need money, I don't need. Oh, you know what? I'm always worried about my mom. I said, hey, look, you want to help me out? I just said it jokingly. I said, look, you want to help me out? Marry my mom, because she's the only concern I have now. There's her growing old alone. Like I need somebody to take care of my mom. He said I'll do that. They were good like that, this guy. No, not really, not really. But he said I'll do that, right, so he spent the next six years trying to get my mom to marry him Really.
Speaker 2:And she wouldn't do it.
Speaker 1:She would not do it, but man, he chased her. Every week he would drop off candy for my kids at the doorstep, dude you get to see this.
Speaker 2:This is one of those things where you see these opposite ends of things.
Speaker 1:You see this great thing that your dad did and your mom's like, why did you give me a stalker? He was awesome man. For me, though I'm like, oh man, I mean it literally like I was so impressed by it. He spent a lot of time with me, he was a carpenter, he was HVAC. He just, you know, he was HVAC, he did do everything and he spent those last six years. He built, like my daughter, a house in the back of it. Where did he live? When we were kids, Like when we were like in grade school Arkansas and then he moved back up here. Yeah, and later, yeah, probably when I was in college, he moved back up here.
Speaker 2:Oh okay, yeah, right, college. He moved back up here. Oh okay, yeah, right around. You know, 1920 I remember, I remember I I vaguely remember he probably came in here. I vaguely remember you, I know. I vaguely remember like like, when that whole thing went down. Yeah, like vaguely I bet it's yeah, but I didn't remember where he was from. I knew it wasn't here, but I couldn't remember where he was from. I knew it wasn't here, but I couldn't remember where it was?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got a sister in Little Rock, melissa. What's up, melissa? And yeah, she you know. So he was down there with her. How old is she? She's probably man, I'm sorry, melissa. 30s, mid-30s.
Speaker 2:Okay, she's quite a bit younger than you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's younger than me. Yeah, she was a little girl when I went down and, yeah, she probably 40, 40 ish, yeah, okay, but yeah, I was. Uh, can you think about that? And I, I just want to provide that. Going back to Thanksgiving, I just, I just want to create an environment this Thanksgiving for our family and kids, one that fosters forgiveness and restoration. Don't do that.
Speaker 2:Just enjoy the day. Yeah, I'm going to, otherwise you're going to end up like Clark Griswold you want the perfect holiday and it's just not going to be there.
Speaker 1:That's a lot to talk about.
Speaker 2:Just enjoy the moment.
Speaker 1:You do want the perfect holiday. The older you get, the more you're like man. I just want my family.
Speaker 2:I just, I just want my, my Christmases, my Christmases and Thanksgivings were just amazing to me, Even with my aunt Cheryl coming across the table. They were just to me. They were magical. I mean they were just, they were magical. So I was always good to my kids to try and make sure they had literally my. My daughters never woke me up for Christmas. I always went in and got them up every time, like five in the morning, oh yeah, he was knocked out by nine, oh yeah, I would know. No, I was up till late, but I would get up bright and early and I would get a fire going in a fireplace.
Speaker 1:I'd get a turkey in the oven. So you got that smell, I get I get.
Speaker 2:Oh, you're giving me ideas. That's a Nat King Cole on the on the on the radio. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:All the Christmas lights.
Speaker 2:I'm the same way. Yeah, I, I my, that's just. I loved Christmas. That was my like. I loved it. My, I don't know. My grandma would do numbers because, like I lived, like I always spent Christmas at my grandma's. I never did. Even when I did do Christmas, usually my mom would do it the night before and then I'd go to my grandma's Christmas morning. I had to be at my grandma's. That's just what my life was and that was never going to change. So when she would buy presents, there was all the kids. So she had five, six kids and then two grandkids, all the kids. So she had five, six kids and then two grandkids. So you know, she didn't. She didn't pretend Santa came or nothing. She would just put them under the tree or whatever.
Speaker 1:And she would put numbers on them. So so you were like number seven, yeah, but you didn't know.
Speaker 2:you didn't know what you don't know, until Christmas morning. I'm going with that. So she would put them under and and it would be, you would go to bed dreaming about being number four, number three, or you had that dream and you seen them boxes. You're like I want to be number three, like you'd be in a, like just dreaming about what could be a number three, you know. And then you get up and you wouldn't get it and you would do your deductive reasoning. You know, like, oh, there's two of each of the three and five, so those are Danny's and Bobby's.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:It must be that. But yeah, it was exciting, it was just, and my grandma would cook everything from scratch for homemade. The whole neighborhood would come over to eat when she would cook, because my grandma made everything homemade, everything I mean everything. Pies made everything homemade, everything I mean everything.
Speaker 1:Pies, cakes everything she didn't. Nothing was boxed processed. Does any, does anybody do that anymore, like I don't?
Speaker 2:feel like it's there anymore. Man, I feel like that's. Did I tell you this story about the applesauce with my grandma and my ex-wife?
Speaker 2:I don't know, I was one of them. My grandma loved my ex-wife at first, and then the one day she brought over a bag of apples, she goes they're getting ready to go bad. My, my, my, my. My ex is thinking why are you giving me apples that are going to go bad? You know, I think she even said that she goes. Well, you could still make applesauce with them. My ex-wife looked at her and goes it's like 25 cents a.
Speaker 1:Why am I going to make applesauce?
Speaker 2:My grandma lost it. She's just like oh okay, never mind that.
Speaker 1:We're not the same. We are not the same, so yeah, I mean everything was scratch. Yeah, my kids got old. They're all older now, you know, except for the one little boy we have. He's seven. And I told Beck. I said look, we're just going to give the kids a card this year with cash. They won't want presents. You're shaking your head? No, I was like they won't want presents, and then she floated that idea. They're like no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:We want presents.
Speaker 1:We want presents.
Speaker 2:The thing is you could give them the cash and even if you go and buy cheap dollar store stuff, they want presents stuff they want presents. You want some presents. Even if you like you can give them a bulk of money, but some cheap job or store stuff or something to open at least something. Yeah, you definitely want.
Speaker 1:I feel like that was a compliment. I'm like oh okay, yeah, All right. Well, we'll give you presents up to a certain amount, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my daughter one time. She, they wanted that Barbie Grand Hotel and it's a cheap piece of crap. I mean it's just junk. And my ex is going we're not buying this thing. It's junk, it's trash. Not doing it now. I refuse to buy this piece of crap because it's all over the tv or whatever. And she, she just keeps telling them that it's too expensive, where you're not going to get it. You know so.
Speaker 2:And she, usually we went and did shopping together and stuff, and she, but christmas eve I'm just didn't sit right with me. You know, you went out and got it, I went out and got it, we're out and we're doing Christmas Eve in Medina. So I go and get this thing right and we wrap it up and we put it under the tree and these kids open it up and they start screaming the top of their lungs. Oh, she knew. They start screaming at the top of their lungs and they're yelling Santa Claus wasted all his money. Like they're screaming it at the top.
Speaker 2:Dude, the greatest thing I've ever had in my life, like for Christmas, was that moment, like that, just that pure excitement of like just just pure kid excitement over a hundred dollar toy. It was literally, I think 90 bucks, yeah, but at toy it was literally I think 90 bucks, yeah, but at the time it wasn't worth 90 bucks. You know, of course. Now you see them and if you got an original, you know and you sell it on. Have you been to castle noel in medina? I have not, but I just was. I was just looking at it two or three days ago and I thought that you have got to go yeah go check it out.
Speaker 1:It's crazy because you'll go through this one room and it'll be all the toys from your childhood. Really, yeah, I mean, it's over your head, it's everywhere and it's nothing but toys from history. That is awesome, and a majority of them are from our era. So you're looking like I had that, I had that, I had that. I mean it's crazy. And the whole thing is just full of memorabilia of Christmas bygone. That's cool. It's just like you'll just you walk through the attic.
Speaker 2:The RV from National Lampoon is in the back.
Speaker 1:The actual RV is in the back, it's the actual one.
Speaker 2:It's the actual.
Speaker 1:RV. The guy went and in the back. It's the actual one. It's the actual RV.
Speaker 2:The guy went and got it and drove it.
Speaker 1:He literally drove it all the way and it's parked right there in the back. I didn't think I'd like it. I went in. I was just like the whole time I'm just walking around with my jaw down. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I'd just seen it, probably two or three days ago, and I've been mean. I haven't even said none to my wife yet. I mean to tell her. We need to do that it's worth the trip.
Speaker 1:It's worth the trip. I don't know what it costs to get. I can't. My wife, you know, did it and we're like ball. We got to go. That looks cool. I think I want to try it out and get some hot. You know, you get some hot cocoa down there. Have some dinner on the Medina Square.
Speaker 2:That's pretty cool yeah, yeah, I like always like Medina Square. They've got a lot of we used to. They got a tea room there that my daughter used to go to when she was younger all the time. Yeah, but all right, I think we've been on it. We've been going at it for how long? Two and a half hours, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1:Two and a half hours.
Speaker 2:It was a show about nothing. We just said talking about nothing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I signed. Sorry. Sorry, it's a talk show about nothing, sorry, we got opinions.
Speaker 2:All right, we're getting out of here it was nice talking to you, Troy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you too bro.
