[00:00:00] Rae: Welcome to the Untamed Soul Podcast. I am your host, Rachel Emry, the founder of Radiant Vibes. I am a spiritual mentor and intuitive, energetic alchemists for you, your animals, and your soulful business. This is a podcast devoted to soul activation and embodied entrepreneurship. It is an exploration. Of inspirational humans who are leading the path to a new earth. 

[00:00:34] Rae: Along the way, I will share intuitive insight and practical wisdom to inspire infinite potential in every area of your life. I am so excited to have you on this journey, so together we can become untamed. 

[00:00:59] Rae: I wanted to [00:01:00] take a brief moment just to talk a little bit about what is going on in my world and how you can connect with me before we dive into today's episode. So, I'm currently taking applications for my six month mentorship container called Embody. Embody is for those who are really wanting to go deep into their most authentic expression and become the embodiment of their aligned offers money, energy. 

[00:01:25] Rae: In my opinion, I would say that this is the way that I have put my life's work into where I'm at now. It is the deepest potency in my role. It is where you will get the most of me. It is with one-to-one mentorship in between session support. We will work with more energy around ritual magic that is unique to each person that is with me. 

[00:01:47] Rae: We will learn to use desire in the shadow side of embracing your power. We will tap into your authentic leadership style and use us as a gateway of support and intuitive [00:02:00] strategy, and an opportunity to also deepen your own personal intuitive abilities within your business. That is going to create long-term sustainability For me, I would say this is like the combination of energetics, strategy, frequency, attunement. 

[00:02:17] Rae: And all of the magic, and this is what, if you really, really wanna transform who you are and where you are at in your business and what your business is, and really take those leaps. This is where you, you've, this is, this is the thing. This is application only. You can hop over to my website. There's a link in the show notes for this. 

[00:02:37] Rae: Outside of that, I also have a six week one-to-one mentorship program that is called Clarify. And with this, this is more for you if you have very specific issues and you are needing the combination of energetics to shift those issues and then bring strategy into your support system. Um, really great container to get a [00:03:00] lot of deep clarity around very specific issues. 

[00:03:03] Rae: And I also offer 90 minute calibration sessions. So those are called calibrate, and those are more intensive strategy sessions with a little bit of embodiment. We will also look at your astrology and all of these, so we can see where the shadows are, where there's more potency that needs to emerge within you so that you can feel more free and expressive with your offerings, your content, who you are, and like really show up as your empowered entrepreneur. 

[00:03:29] Rae: And of course you can always connect with me through animal communication, which, you know, I love, I do have openings for some one-to-one long-term energy, um, healing containers. If you'd like to know more about those, you can just hop over, send me some notes, and I'll be happy to, uh, share more about that. 

[00:03:45] Rae: So let's hop over. Here's the show. 

[00:03:49] Rae: Hey, hey. We are back with another week and an awesome collaboration with somebody that I'm so excited to have as a guest collaborator on the podcast today. [00:04:00] Her name is Rebecca Simak, a k a, CARSI B. She is a writer, intuitive Tara reader and a healing catalyst. Her work has been featured in M T V, nylon Shape Bustle and the Zoe Report. 

[00:04:14] Rae: She quit her fashion career to dive deeper into her intuitive gifts. After experiencing a dark night of the soul. She now uses tarot to guide clients, including celebrities, C-suite executives, artists, and entrepreneurs to their own inner knowing and healing abilities. In addition to creating her signature tarot deck, badass Bitches Tarot, Cardi B is also the host of The Hex In the City Podcast. 

[00:04:37] Rae: The Saturn Diaries, a Modern Day Grim War is her first book, and I met Rebecca. It's probably been four years, I'm guessing at some point at this point. Um, and I, I remember my, I found you and I wanted to have a session with you because of the way that you were talking about tarot really resonated [00:05:00] with me. 

[00:05:00] Rae: And I believe I even told you right away, look, I don't have a really good association with tarot because I've just had people be way too predictive or, um, it just wasn't resonating with me. And you were like, you took it with a grain of salt and you were like, okay, yeah, no, it's cool. It's cool. And I had the first session, it was so illuminating to me of the power of tarot and because the guide, it was what you gave to me was more guidance. 

[00:05:27] Rae: And I felt like you were so intuitively tapped in that the cards were there as sort of like a little bit of a stepping stone for you to pull in. But it really, it was like your intuition that was leading the whole thing and you were so. Your knowledge is so vast and it's like how you could pull that in and bring it into the session was incredible to me and I was hooked from that point when, so I have been going to Rebecca for the last four years when I am in need of that guidance that is very intuitively guided through the [00:06:00] tarot, and she has such an awesome brand in the way that she presents herself, as you can probably already tell by the name of her podcast and her Badass Bitches Tarot. 

[00:06:10] Rae: She's such a creative and the way that she puts it out there so unapologetically is just really inspirational to me. And I want you guys to hopefully find the same inspiration that I have through Rebecca as we talk more today. So first, thanks for coming on. I'm so grateful that you're here. And I want to, if you could introduce yourself a little bit about your story and then also I'm love to share Sun Moon Rising. 

[00:06:33] Cardsy.B: Thank you so much, Rachel. Yeah. I'm so excited for this podcast to be a part of it, um, to collaborate with you. Cause I just think you're so gifted and so powerful in terms of your healing abilities and what you share with, with the collective. So thank you. I'm so grateful to be here. Um, in terms of, I'll try to, I'll try to hit on everything, uh, sun. 

[00:06:53] Cardsy.B: Sagittarius Rising, Aries, moon, Libra. I have a lot, a lot of fire in my chart, so a lot of [00:07:00] Sagittarius in general, but mostly fire, um, which explains a lot of, uh, my good and bad traits. But, um, in addition to that, um, kind of my background I think, and, and thank you for everything you shared about like your experience in working together, because that really is my goal. 

[00:07:15] Cardsy.B: Um, I, I even find it hard when people are like, well, what is it? And I guess the most simplistic way is to say that I am an intuitive tarot reader, but it is just as you explained, I I really pull in a lot of channel downloads and messages, and the cards kind of keep me grounded. I always joke that I came from the fashion industry, so I love accessories. 

[00:07:32] Cardsy.B: So like that is kind of my thing that like keeps me grounded in terms of a roadmap. If I'm, if I'm. Getting too much information at once. I can go back to that of like, okay, well, let's see why this is popping up. Why, like, the empress is on top of my deck, for example. Like, why is the empress coming up? Is it the, is it the timing of a Venus placement? 

[00:07:48] Cardsy.B: Is it because there's like nurturing that you, you know, need to look at that you're not giving yourself right now? Um, So I, I feel like that my, my practice is yes, like, um, intuitive tarot, tarot reader, but [00:08:00] mostly what I do is a lot of, um, yeah, intuitive guidance and coaching with clients that are trying to more deeply access their own inner knowing. 

[00:08:07] Cardsy.B: And one of the things I find in my sessions is people often say, without me knowing anything about them, like, oh my gosh, I did since that was coming. And I'll say like, oh, I see this coming down the road in like, you know, five weeks or, or two months. And they're like, wow, I have been feeling that. But there haven't been maybe tangible signs yet. 

[00:08:24] Cardsy.B: And being able to tap into the energies around us, which we're all able to access. And I've actually, one of the things that I love the most and what I do is finding that people have, um, accessed their own under guidance more, whether they start reading TA for themselves and for others, or just start building that into their day-to-day where they can trust it more themselves, um, as they, as they work in sessions. 

[00:08:45] Cardsy.B: So that's kind of. How I work. My backstory, which you touched on in the bio, is um, I learned tarot as a little girl. Um, it wasn't as cool back in the eighties and nineties as it is now, so it was just kind of this weird hobby, um, didn't run in my family lineage. People always [00:09:00] ask cuz there's a lot of like, you know, second, third generation healers. 

[00:09:02] Cardsy.B: Not at all. I came from very lovely but very traditional suburban parents in the middle of rural Pennsylvania. Um, and luckily they were cool with the fact that I would save my allowance at 10, 11 years old and buy astrology books and tarot. I. Believe that I was something from a past lifetime because it was just, uh, like even, even as a kid in grade school, like I understood it and I picked it up quickly so it felt like quite like intuitive and that it was somewhere, somewhere coming through me. 

[00:09:27] Cardsy.B: Um, and like ended up kind of dropping that, um, moved into working in fashion design for the bulk of my adult career. And after a massive dark night of the soul in my, in my Saturn return, which is where Saturn returns to where we were born. And if we're not aligned, it kind of pulls the rug out from under any of those areas. 

[00:09:46] Cardsy.B: I lost a lot, um, and came back to just pulling a tarot card a day of something that was like, oh, I remember, not only this connected me to my intuition, but it reminded me of something that I was good at without having, without it having to cost [00:10:00] anything, without having to seek outside of myself other than literally pulling a card. 

[00:10:04] Cardsy.B: Um, and that's kind of from that point on, I started then reading again for other people. I started, um, Doing one-on-one sessions, and I never thought this would be my full-time career. But from 20 20 17, 20 18 until today, this has become my full-time career in terms of one-on-one sessions teaching, doing events, and then my, my podcasts and, and my first book came out in December. 

[00:10:26] Rae: Yeah, it's so cool how your journey is really unfolded in that, going from like all the fashion design and all of that, but how you really bring so much of that into who you are today and like your costume, I call 'em costumes. So they're, I mean, essentially Oh yeah, totally. Always dressing your dog up and just this cute little Pomeranian and, and the palm will always be dressed up in like the witchy witch and she so not afraid to just be like her witchy woo self and express that, which is really cool. 

[00:10:56] Rae: And even in your. Tarot deck, your badass [00:11:00] bitches tarot deck, which is what you've always ever used for my sessions when I've connected with you. Um, and they're, why don't you describe the deck? Cuz it's, it, they're, oh yeah.  

[00:11:10] Cardsy.B: So unique. I can just pull like a couple that are here right now. So I, um, when I realized that I was kind of stepping more deeply into this as a, um, like starting to read for others, starting to teach in small groups in, in New York City, um, I would always explain, I was trying to make it as accessible to people that, like yourself either had like negative experiences with the Tarell or a lot of people find it very dark where there's a lot of dark imagery and the traditional, or the most popular, I should say, the Smith Rider or white deck. 

[00:11:35] Cardsy.B: And people are like, I don't know about that. And people have, um, some people have a negative connotation to like dark occult and I was like, no, you know, it all comes down to archetypes and symbology. And so I wanted to make it very accessible and um, not intimidating. So I would teach people that, for example, I. 

[00:11:52] Cardsy.B: My deck, the Empress is, um, inspired by Angelina Jolie with all of her babies strapped to her as Tomb Raider, where it's like you're the fierce warrior [00:12:00] goddess, but also a nurturer and also a creators is kind of the archetype of the empress. Um, the hero fans is inspired by Oprah and my deck cuz it's kind of like those aha moments. 

[00:12:09] Cardsy.B: The hero fans is, um, really like the teacher of life lessons. But in the traditional deck, it's this like scary pope looking guy. And everyone's like, what is that? Is that a bad sign? Like, if you don't have the best relationship with institutionalized religion, you can be like, oh, I don't want that. And it's like, no, it's like Oprah, like aha moments, you know? 

[00:12:24] Cardsy.B: Um, so I, that was kind of the, how I was teaching anyway, just in my vernacular. And people really gravitated towards that. And I had this moment, I was, um, in Amsterdam with my best friend and I was always looking for new taro decks. And I, I was seeking one that was kind of empowered, like really strong women. 

[00:12:42] Cardsy.B: And I couldn't find any. There were some oracle decks with like angels and goddesses, but I knew in my mind like what I wanted to find. And my best friend said, you illustrate from being in fashion. She was like, why don't you create that deck? And that kind of planted that seed. It took me probably another, another year or so to actually start the deck, but it was kind of one [00:13:00] of those like moments from the universe that came through her that was like, you have the ability to do this. 

[00:13:05] Cardsy.B: And like that's the way that you teach is very unique and very approachable. And then ever since then, I have only read with my deck because there's like, when you put that much into it of literally like I hand illustrated it, I designed it, I wrote the guidebook. Um, I think that I ha there's, there's so many things even that like pop out to me more so than, than any other tero that I've worked with because it's like so much of me that was placed into it in my own, like downloads as I was creating it. 

[00:13:31] Cardsy.B: But it is, I always say it's, it's a fun deck. It's a good starter deck, especially if there's, if the traditional tarot imagery doesn't like connect with you or doesn't really resonate. Um, and that was really the first, I think, big venture other than doing readings into this space. And then the, the deck started to get picked up in stores and people, it was, it was crazy cuz then I would see these, like, like kids, I say kids like, you know, much younger than me on TikTok reading with it. 

[00:13:53] Cardsy.B: And I was like, oh my gosh. Like, people like this. People get what I'm trying to do in terms of democratizing this as a healing [00:14:00] tool. Um, so yeah. And that, it's funny that you were saying so much of like, you see so much of my fashion background because I think, I don't know if you experienced this in periods of awakening for yourself, but I know with me when I started to really awaken into like, I knew I was leaving my fashion career and coming more into my, my like calling and my purpose work as a healer and as a guide. 

[00:14:20] Cardsy.B: I thought, oh my gosh, what does that mean? Like, am I gonna like move to like a hut in Costa Rica and like, you know, get rid of all of these things that were a part of my life? And I realized all of those things were definitely like a divine part of my journey for a reason. Even down to like my marketing abilities of like card zb and hacks in the city and the way that I illustrate and express, um, through the terra was very much a part of like my creative background and, and my love of like, it's funny that the emphasis on top, like all things Venus, all things that are, um, like bringing beauty out to, to the collective. 

[00:14:51] Cardsy.B: So I think that that was one of the biggest things for me is like, we're, we're trained so much, I think in polarity, in, in society of like, oh, if it's, [00:15:00] it's not this, it means that I'm like, oh, then I'm gonna be this other extreme. And I was like, wait, there's still a lot of me that I still enjoy that actually is gonna probably resonate with certain people that may not be drawn to tarot otherwise. 

[00:15:11] Cardsy.B: And this is kind of like, hey, you can still love fashion. You can still have like tongue in cheek humor and access healing. That's really impactful.  

[00:15:20] Rae: And really quick before I add on, cuz I was making tons of notes, people can buy the deck right from your  

[00:15:25] Cardsy.B: website. Oh yeah, yeah. It's at card zv.com. It's also in a lot of, um, metaphysical shops and bookstores too. 

[00:15:31] Rae: Yeah, yeah. It's, it's really cool. And I think that the one thing that I always feel is so different from when I've had sessions with you, I honestly, I don't think I've ever even had a session with another terror reader to be perfectly transparent. And honestly, you were like, I was like, ok, this girl knows what she's doing. 

[00:15:49] Rae: I love it. My Capricorn moon that needs to have things very grounded and practical in ways that like hit and land that are real, you know, very [00:16:00] tangible for me to digest. And, um, but it's always so interesting how, you know, you can read about traditional, you know, Descriptions online. I'm trying to think of some of the cards that could be really kind of negative cards, you know, that  

[00:16:16] Cardsy.B: Oh yeah, that's, that's a good like, um, yeah, even like the death card, the tower card. 

[00:16:22] Cardsy.B: Like, I don't know how many people, um, listening are familiar with Louise Hay, but I made the death card, Louise Hay, because to me she's like the, the mother of like, modern day, like self-healing. And um, even in her obituary it said she transitioned. It's not like she passed away. She died. It was like she transitioned on whatever date in 2019 and I was like, that is the death card. 

[00:16:42] Cardsy.B: It's like change, transition, transformation. And it's beautiful, you know?  

[00:16:46] Rae: Yeah. And I know when I've gotten specific cards that I thought, oh God, that's reversed, that's bad. And then your tape on it has been, Much more it, you're not focused on that negative aspect, you know? And [00:17:00] I try really hard and because of the way that my brain is wired to stay. 

[00:17:05] Rae: Totally. I mean, you wanna be able to take some of that shadow all, I mean, I'm a total believer, obviously in like blending the shadow with the lie, but like yeah, only ever focused on that dark, negative, you know, outcome that I think traditional. You know, some of the traditional tarot, even traditional astrology, can really bring in, it can make it feel so doomsday or, oh, this is the outcome, or this is how that is, you know, and then it's like, that's actually not it. 

[00:17:33] Rae: And I feel like the way that you really, um, look at your cards and reflect back to whoever's with you and your, and, and me being on the other end is all I can speak about is it's always been from such a place of like illumination and bringing in that, you know, higher frequency of whatever, even if that is a shadowy side of that card. 

[00:17:53] Rae: And the other thing that I always find really interesting is when. There's been things, times where I've had more frequent [00:18:00] sessions with you depending on what I was going on, what was going on in my life or where I was at, and um, the energies that would come up consistently from, I mean, probably from the very beginning of when I started working with you around career, cuz initially I think it was around a relationship that I was navigating some career stuff and I was navigating an ending and moving and all of these things and that I was trans, like transitioning in my life. 

[00:18:25] Rae: But as I started to really tap in more with the career stuff and the business side of it, It was such similar cards that would come up again and again and you would remember, you'd be like, I believe you get this card like all the time or whatever. It's  

[00:18:37] Cardsy.B: funny cause it's like I don't remem like the things I remember I'll remember like astrology and certain tarot cards and it's, I re Yeah. 

[00:18:43] Cardsy.B: And it's funny how you will, if things are still moving in that same trajectory of like, oh wait, this is still coming up. This is either still a lesson, have you looked at or this is still on track for what's coming through. It's, it's crazy how that happens. Yeah,  

[00:18:56] Rae: mine was, I, I just, I can't remember exactly what carpet I know that [00:19:00] well. 

[00:19:00] Rae: I think the empress comes up a lot for me as well. And then yeah, there's um, I a couple times where different ones, and you always seem to know, but one of my favorite times was when I connecting with you was when I was really getting back into the dating scene and, um, You know, I wasn't one that wanted to know like who's my next love or anything like that. 

[00:19:23] Rae: It was more, it was just fun to tune in and I would be really open about, and I would think this session was gonna be about business or whatever, but my guides were coming through you or in that collaboration and they would be so good at bringing in this awareness around the energies of different people that were coming up. 

[00:19:40] Rae: And it was always interesting to me how when I let the session just be guided that way, that that's where it would move through. And I remember some of those were just my most favorite. And they were so fun and funny because you would pull out energies on different guys that were in my world that I was just like not even bringing to the table. 

[00:19:58] Rae: And I remember the one time [00:20:00] you're like, who is this guy that's like a freaking whack-a-mole that you keep just hopping him down? And then he just keeps up here and up there and I'm like sitting there. I was like, oh God. 

[00:20:16] Rae: It was so funny.  

[00:20:18] Cardsy.B: Well, and that's what I love working with you and clients that are in their own, um, healing work, healing practices and or like your self healers and, and teachers themselves, because I think like those are the, the people that are open to like, like where it's meant to be led. I think that a lot of times people that come in with like, this is what I wanna look at. 

[00:20:37] Cardsy.B: I'll absolutely do that. But sometimes there's a resistance to like people thinking they wanna see, oh my gosh, I'm obsessed with this person wanting to see love. And it's like some of this control stuff is actually more about. Things that feel out of control, whether in family life or business. And I think that it's funny of like when you were saying you, you thought it was gonna be more business guided and some of that stuff may come up, but I, I would be like, okay, wait, can we talk [00:21:00] about who this guy is? 

[00:21:00] Cardsy.B: And you're like, where is this? Like yes, I do know who that is, technical.  

[00:21:05] Rae: And I remember the cards that you had pulled right when I started dating back in March. And I've shared this story a little bit in previous episodes or throughout. So, um, because this experience of how I went through that chapter was really liberating for me. 

[00:21:21] Rae: You know, I really approached dating. In such a, a really, um, empowered way when I got back to it early, I guess it would've been early 2022, and then took a couple month break off and then went back on and was like, okay, now I've gotta do it. And I wasn't very excited about it. But, um, the thing is, is that was my time. 

[00:21:41] Rae: It was like this was the time. And so I had a really great, um, you know, great connections with several different men that were coming through. And I was just floored and we connected in there. And again, I thought it was gonna be about like investment business and some of that stuff did come up and, um, [00:22:00] around that. 

[00:22:01] Rae: And, but then there was energies that were coming up through the cards and you came to the end and you're like, it wasn't even anybody that I had specifically asked about at that time. And then you were like, who is the King of Cups? You, I don't even know if you'll remember this, but I remember so you, because you were like, who's the king of Cups and the Queen of Cups energy? 

[00:22:22] Rae: And I was like, what do you mean? And those were two cards that you pulled about and energy and I'm like, I don't know. I thought I'd already went through all of the men with you. And then it sat there and I was like, well there is this one guy but we haven't even met. I don't even know what his deal is really. 

[00:22:35] Rae: I can't get a vibe for him. Or you know, a really good vibe check on him. And you were like, well I don't know. This one seems really promising. It seems like probably a lot of water energy. See what comes up. And lo and behold, the following week is when Ryan, who's my, now we're engaged, you know, partner and and whatnot came through. 

[00:22:54] Rae: And even still at the beginning, I wouldn't have pinned that with him at all. [00:23:00] But turns out he's a Scorpio sun cancer rising and oh my gosh, he's also Venus and Can Venus and Scorpio as well. So it was just so interesting that here's all that water energy that comes in and you're like, this guy's something to like. 

[00:23:14] Rae: Really be aware of, you know, and, and kind of check in. And I'll just never forget that. Cause I was like, I had no idea who it was. But then when it clicked to me about a month into dating him, I'm like, I think this might be that energy that's gonna be really interesting to see all this unfold. So anyways. 

[00:23:29] Cardsy.B: Oh, I love that.  

[00:23:31] Rae: Yeah, you definitely nailed him in that because he does have that whole like, you know, just that emotional intelligence and that emotional iq and he is not spiritual in the way that we are, but it was that, that, you know, really understanding that human emotion at a deep level of connecting and, and tuning in and that love and stuff. 

[00:23:51] Rae: So it was just always so interesting. So those were like some of my favorite ones that came through. And of course, any, anytime, anytime I connect with you, it's always so amazing [00:24:00] that whatever, even the idea is, it's like even if it's coming through it, there's no. It's like there's really no right or wrong, right? 

[00:24:06] Rae: It's just if it's in your, if it's in your energy, the guys are gonna bring in through you the guidance around whatever it is in that. And I imagine that, you know, especially if people were really working through deeper cycles, sometimes there was really deep energetic cycles. And I thought it was always cool how you could see the evolution of me, especially when it came to my business or with dating and like the evolution of like relinquishing some of the things that were really in my way, you know, as you would connect time. 

[00:24:32] Rae: So it's really, really powerful.  

[00:24:35] Cardsy.B: Yeah. And that's the thing that I really love about working with, with tarot specifically, is that, um, there's so much that can be like shown in terms of just like organizing. Like for me, the way that I work is like organizing channeled information, but also in the cards themselves of like, I'm known for like, timing of things, um, coming through and reading like the astrology, the numerology of the cards. 

[00:24:56] Cardsy.B: But the one thing I always ask is, um, like doing [00:25:00] a, doing a prayer meditation, be before I go into a session, just asking for what is helpful, healing and empowering, and like giving me all of the information that I can get through in that session. That's helpful, healing and empowering for the person that I am working with and translating it as clearly as possible because sometimes the way that I see and perceive things, like with King of Cups, I was like, okay, like water, energy, someone who's very emotionally intelligent, very, um, like able to be vulnerable and. 

[00:25:25] Cardsy.B: Express and connect in that way. Um, but I don't necessarily know, um, like who that person is, what their name is. So I think that I always try to like, ask for like what ways that it's gonna, um, translate the, the clearest to, to the person I'm working with. And I, I people that have had negative experiences with tarot or psychic readings that are like, oh, I was told all of these things I didn't ask for that were negative. 

[00:25:47] Cardsy.B: Um, I always explain to some like, sometimes like more dense energies or harder things come through. But the way that I work with like, um, the person's higher self, their guides is like, what is it that is again gonna help and, and empower them to know? Because [00:26:00] I, I know for example, I had gone to a guy who was like, oh, this is gonna happen, this person is gonna die. 

[00:26:06] Cardsy.B: And I'm like, it could, I mean, that could be true, but d does that like serve me to know? Probably not, you know, good at all. Um, yeah, so I don't even, it's not that I, people always ask me, do you not tell if you see, I'm like, n well, I only ask to see what's gonna help. You know? So if there's something that I don't. 

[00:26:23] Cardsy.B: See it's, it's like I'm not asking to see things that are like, here's some information you can't do anything about that. Like is only gonna create anxiety and stress until it occurs. Like I just am, like, what can I give you that is gonna empower you, give you tools to access your, in inner guidance system more deeply as you move forward through the lessons that are showing up. 

[00:26:41] Cardsy.B: Mm-hmm.  

[00:26:41] Rae: Yeah, I think that's a really great way and a really valid point to express to people, especially when you're moving into a spiritual career and having that burden and that responsibility sometimes to be so on. And I, myself, I've had two situations where, you know, um, one in particular where, [00:27:00] you know, After connecting with somebody, it was a couple weeks later that they had a great loss. 

[00:27:04] Rae: And it was almost putting this pressure on myself of why didn't you see that? But at the same time, my intention is not to see death. I won't. Yes. Like in transition sessions when I work with the animals and, you know, that sort of thing. I can see the energies of people, but I'm, I'm tuned in to like the higher self. 

[00:27:21] Rae: What is the, you know, most highest guidance for them at this time right now. And sitting here being predictive about somebody's death is not going to really serve anybody, but put you in fear and yes, anxiety and, you know, it just depends on who you are. Like for me, it probably wouldn't freak me out too bad, you know, but I would still have to go through like that little bit of like wrapping my head around it. 

[00:27:42] Rae: Right. And totally. And I remember I had a session with a client one time that, um, ended up just being a very misaligned client to begin with. And, um, she, there was an issue with her cat and I was, Pretty on it with, you know, what was going on with the [00:28:00] cat. The cat was very clear, like, I'm not leaving. And this woman was so focused on this cat's death because of another psychic telling her six months ago that her cat was going to die in six months. 

[00:28:11] Rae: So this was at that six month cycle. And Oh yeah, I was just very like, I'm like, look, I'm tuning in with your cat and I'm just not getting that. You know, if they're, and this is, it's all free will at, at that totally time and what they're, what they're sharing, expressing. Um, and when it's a younger animal, they're not really aware when it's working with senior animals, I find that they're closer or somebody that's at their senior phases of life, you know, when it gets closer, it's like you can kind of sense like there's a feeling, a shift in the soul, a shift in the spirit and the body and stuff. 

[00:28:41] Rae: So it's like, you can tell they're working through it, but she was just so focused on that and just couldn't let it go. And the cat ended up. Mysteriously dying, um, three months later, you know? So, but you know, I was tuned in at that day and, um, she actually was not very happy with me because I didn't [00:29:00] predict it right. 

[00:29:00] Rae: And I'm like, I'm not predictive. I'm not going into this like this, like that. Yeah. I'm telling you that. Like, you were so anxious about that because of some other previous psychic that tells you this, and that's just not where I'm going in this world. Like, I'm just not gonna induce that kind of anxiousness. 

[00:29:15] Rae: And she already had it because of that time, you know? Mm-hmm. And so I, I'm glad you brought that up because it's something that I feel that we have to kind of know where's our boundaries with that. And also, is it healthy to really, I mean, I don't know. I just feel like that would really be crossing somebody else's. 

[00:29:33] Rae: You know, soul boundaries in a way, because we're really not meant to know about that whole, like, death is uncertain, but it's certain at the same time. Right. We're all gonna, yeah. But like, knowing all of that to such a certainty really isn't our purpose here in this world, you know? It's  

[00:29:50] Cardsy.B: like, oh, for sure. 

[00:29:51] Cardsy.B: For sure. And I, yeah, I agree with you. It's kind of like, I don't know, and maybe some people would disagree and say like, oh, I wanna know that and it would serve me. Um, but yeah, it's not how [00:30:00] I work either. I'm kind of like, show me. And it's not that I, it's, it's, I definitely will share if things are heavy. 

[00:30:04] Cardsy.B: Like, okay, this may be a lesson you're moving through, but there's a reason that it's occurring. Um, but I, I don't think that, like, things that are, um, shocking, jarring, and just being able to predict it and share it isn't always, um, even though, even if it can be seen, I don't know that it always serves people to know it at that, you know, before they're meant to, meant to, to step into the energy. 

[00:30:25] Rae: And even, I think sometimes people think that they're ready for that, but it kind of will send you into a little bit of a, you know, I don't know. It just does, even if you think you are, yeah, those, some of those things are heavy, but like you said, moving through the lesson or the energy is a different, that's a different aspect, right? 

[00:30:41] Rae: That's guidance for you as a person, not necessarily like the way that every single event is going to play out, because we just don't know. I mean, you can give me insight about. Different guys that I would pop out a name and the cards will come up and give, give like in insight and energy around that. 

[00:30:56] Rae: But like, you can't sit here and be, oh, this is definitely the [00:31:00] one, you know?  

[00:31:01] Cardsy.B: Right. Well that goes back to like our f and like people always want that from me of like, this is definitely, and I'll always say, I'll give you the highest, like, probability of the highest timeline, but when, first of all, we always have free will with every decision we make throughout our day. 

[00:31:16] Cardsy.B: Um, and then when you entangle other people's energy into their free will, even like going back into like saying that about the cat, um, and maybe who knows what the other psychic was experiencing, maybe at that time. The cat was in a place of, um, like physical suffering and was perceiving that as like a threat to life. 

[00:31:34] Cardsy.B: But then their, as they healed, their awareness shifted in that like things within that cat's free will change. So I think that there's so many different entanglements that we have when we bring in other people's energy that I'm always like, I can look at like the highest probable timeline right now around you, but people always do want a level of certainty without realizing how much like free will of ourselves and others like shift the Akasha graphics. 

[00:31:58] Cardsy.B: It's almost like a Tetris Mac at [00:32:00] every, at every point there's always pieces moving, you know?  

[00:32:03] Rae: No, it is. And animals are really good reflectors of that, cuz I always tell people, I'm like, they're just, especially if an animal's really going through it physically, And I will have animals where, especially the senior animals, that they're so close and it feels like, oh wow, this is close. 

[00:32:19] Rae: But they're also so affected by the here and now. So if their body is just to the point where it just feels like such shit, they, they're just gonna be, yeah, I feel like it's close. And then they get an energy healing. We shift around a couple things diet wise and a couple different medicinal things. And next thing you know, they're bounced back. 

[00:32:35] Rae: And I mean, I just went through this with my dog, I thought four weeks ago, this was it. This was her night. I mean, I just was so sure of it and, you know, sat with it, did some things to keep her comfortable. But, you know, my gut was like, well just kind of let her move through it. And fortunately, I have good friends to turn to for this too, when I'm in my kind of crisis flow too. 

[00:32:55] Rae: So, and she did, she pulled back and she's doing phenomenal. But I had to tweak some [00:33:00] things. And now if you looked at her, you'd be like, oh no, she'll, she'll probably be here for the next year, but she could go through another cycle next month that, you know, she's an old girl that she's like, yeah, this might be it. 

[00:33:08] Rae: So it's really, I think that's, That like that will, that free will at a soul level and us as like the human or the animal or whatever the experience is, is such a, like really something to take into consideration when you're doing any work like this. And also, I. Even if somebody is aligned, like I felt that sometimes people were aligned. 

[00:33:30] Rae: So take Ryan and I, for example, you know, as we were meeting and coming together, I knew when I was coming out to Northwest Arkansas I would meet my person. And so some, it was so weird because I knew that I just knew it at a gut level. So it was almost weird because a lot of people that I met right away, I would almost be feeling like, oh, is this the one? 

[00:33:49] Rae: And so it really. Took my my mind into like, is this the one versus like just the journey and the experience, because I knew that, and I feel like in some ways it inhibited me [00:34:00] and almost put me in, into making poor decisions around people because I was so focused on that, that it was not really being intentional with who is this person, you know, and more focused on is this the one? 

[00:34:11] Rae: Because I knew that in my gut, like I had a whole dream about this. Like those whole, I mean, just my intuition was so clear. That's not the only reason why I moved out here. But, so it did shape that, that initial meeting because of that, until I was like, no, no, no. That's not how this works. Right? Like, you know better than this. 

[00:34:27] Rae: Yeah. Like, yeah. Yeah. Um, okay, so you have, you recently just wrote your book, the Saturn Diaries, and I don't know a ton about that. I, of course get your newsletter and, and see your happenings, but I wanna know more about that because you're, You're out of your Saturn return, right? Yes.  

[00:34:50] Cardsy.B: Yeah. So it's kind of going back to that period. 

[00:34:53] Cardsy.B: And the reason I chose to release it, um, like when I did, was, well, first I was approached by a publisher in New York [00:35:00] in 2020 and I had started because they said, you know, your journey's kind of crazy. It's a very devil wears product. Kind of like coming from that life, but then making this big, this big shift into the metaphysical and healing space. 

[00:35:11] Cardsy.B: Um, cuz I used to be the creative director of Playboy and I designed for Donna, Karen, and I had this very like Carrie Bradshaw esque life in Manhattan before this is what I was doing full-time. So I had a publisher approach me and I was like, yeah, this sounds interesting. And then literally maybe a month or two later, the pandemic hit and I was, I I ended up leaving New York and I was like, I just need time to figure out like my own my own life and maintain the healing practice and offering as much support as I could to the collective at that time without starting a book. 

[00:35:37] Cardsy.B: So I put it on pause, um, moved to Miami in 2021. And really it was, uh, I would say like largely channeled in six months of 21 to 22 that I completed the book. And, um, it's, it's a, it's, I I explain that it's half memoir, half spell book. That's why it's called, it's called the Saturn Diaries, A Modern Day Grim War. 

[00:35:56] Cardsy.B: Cuz Grim war is like fancy word for spell book. Um, so it goes [00:36:00] through the story of my Saturn return, which occurs when, again, when Saturn is in the place where we were born, which is around every like 27 to 31 years. So we have the first one at 27 to 31, then a second one, like, you know, late fifties, early sixties. 

[00:36:14] Cardsy.B: And if we're lucky, one around 90. Um, so if you're in any of those age brackets or you've passed, you know, at least one of them, you know, um, what that period looked like for you. And for those of us that, like myself, were very misaligned. I wasn't in the right marriage, I wasn't in the right, um, career path. 

[00:36:30] Cardsy.B: I was doing a lot of things that checked a lot of boxes. I had this high profile fashion career. I was married to like, what looked like the quintessential, like perfect. Like we were literally in human rights campaigns as like the lesbian couple. Everybody loves in New York. Um, had all of the things on the surface, but behind the scenes I was really struggling horribly with addiction, depression, and anxiety, and kind of masking it with how, how good my life presented. 

[00:36:54] Cardsy.B: Um, and Saturn return came around and within that period of, um, Like [00:37:00] three years, my ex-wife asked for a divorce. I got pushed out of my global VP creative director role. Um, my, one of my very best friends passed away with H I V related complications. Another close friend died by suicide. And just all of these things that basically I identified as of like, made me, me were being pulled out and I decided that I did wanna release it. 

[00:37:21] Cardsy.B: Um, in this time period because I feel like whether or not you're in, in astrological Saturn returns, so many of us have experienced ego deaths as a result of 2020 Intel current. Um, oh my gosh. I thought I was in the right relationship and it's clear that I'm not from being quarantined with this person, or I thought this was my forever home and I'm realizing the city, this location doesn't resonate anymore. 

[00:37:40] Cardsy.B: Or a lot of people waking up to their purpose work in this time and exiting like, you know, old career path. So whether, again, whether or not it's like an actual Saturn return or you're just having those ego deaths occur, I was like, I think a lot of, um, what I moved through is, um, a, a quite a universal experience, uh, for people in this time. 

[00:37:58] Cardsy.B: And then each chapter, [00:38:00] it is written kind of like, like a memoir of, of my Saturn return, how I moved through that and the healing tools that helped me throughout. So at the end of each chapter is, um, like a ritual, a meditation, an herbal elix. Sir, that I stumbled upon, um, and like in that time and helped in my healing journey. 

[00:38:17] Cardsy.B: So I always say you can read it one of two ways. You can read it like the memoir, which is written very, it's a true story, the whole thing, but it's, it's written very like Sex in the City esque. So it is a, it's kind of like, as an entertaining story of healing. Or you can just go, um, chapter by chapter of like, oh, I'm working on self-love, I'm working on heart chakra healing, I'm working on cord cutting. 

[00:38:35] Cardsy.B: And there are, you know, spells, rituals, healing tools throughout, uh, at the end of each chapter that you can, you can reference for that too. So it is, yeah, spell book and a memoir. That was a long answer.  

[00:38:45] Rae: Yeah, no, I love it. It's great. I'm glad you went into those details because you know, we have our Saturn returns and I always feel like we go through so many different Saturn cycles cuz it also depends on like where the oppositions are, where the squares are, what else is like Saturn squaring in your chart and what's [00:39:00] happening? 

[00:39:00] Rae: Like, I all last year was having Saturn conjunct my sun and conjunct my Venus. And so like, And typically, you know, I had a lot of great transit energy through the fifth house, which you would think, and that's where my son is and my Venus is. I had Jupiter going through my fifth house. I had all these great like things that traditionally you would say, oh, that's amazing. 

[00:39:21] Rae: But I had Saturn conjunct, my son there in Saturns. Yeah, I know my Venus there. So it was really like bringing it up, you know, and making me kind of go about it in different ways that it wasn't, I mean I had a great experience through my fifth house, Jupiter and the Fifth, but there was also a lot of like, how are you gonna be responsible for this? 

[00:39:40] Rae: What are you gonna do with this? And okay, and yeah, you're gonna go day and enjoy it, but you're gonna do it in a way that is like not the way that you've done it before. Right. In a way that's much more empowering and also, um, has a little bit of. Kind of organization to it, which was, so that's so Saturn, you know, it's like, yes, right? 

[00:39:59] Rae: [00:40:00] It's like, you know, no, no having sex too soon. You know, one glass of wine on a date and that's it. And like, you know, and, and getting to really. Ask the questions that are relative to, is this even worth going forward? You know? Yeah. Was so Saturn there. Right. And I remember some people would say, sometimes I feel like I'm on a little bit of an interview with you, and I'm like, yeah, I know, but it'll pass. 

[00:40:25] Rae: You swear it'll pass once I know this is worth my time. Like it'll pass,  

[00:40:29] Cardsy.B: you know? Yes. You're like, it gets fun after the interview admission. Yeah. Yeah. It  

[00:40:33] Rae: gets fun after this. And then all of this stuff that I had to go through with, like, really putting myself out there and, and having it sit on my sun with my business and really restructuring, reorganizing, making some massive pivots that were really scary, you know? 

[00:40:48] Rae: But it was basically sitting there like, no, you, you can have the creative process in the fun of the fit house, but you, you've been doing it in ways that. Not necessarily misaligned, but they weren't lighting me on fire, you [00:41:00] know? Yeah. And creating that, that deeper like ignition within me and stuff. So I think that regardless, it sounds like your book, regardless of where you're at, whether you're in that massive return, I feel like you said, those ego death, I think that's all about working with the Saturn energy and we go through so many different cycles like that through our lifetime, whether it's Saturn or Pluto, or those heavier hitting planets is. 

[00:41:24] Rae: So I, and I love that you always combine the, the spell stuff with it. Um, the ritual, you know? Yeah. What got you started in that?  

[00:41:35] Cardsy.B: Um, a lot of that was, um, somewhat accidental because obviously I was always, since I was little, really intrigued by the tarot and, and like, you know, learned to read at a young age. 

[00:41:44] Cardsy.B: Um, but with my wi with that period and my Saturn return, it was very much like my higher self. Again, I believe things I practice in a past like that, things came through quite by happenstance. Mm-hmm. Like even in like, like in the book, the, the first half of it is kind of when I am still very [00:42:00] in that like fast paced like fashion friends with like, you know, like these, like celebrities and like partying and. 

[00:42:05] Cardsy.B: Um, things would show up in like, like almost comical ways of like herbal elixirs I discovered of like, I had no idea what cacao was and somebody got it from me at a restaurant and I was like, oh. And like, I really felt like, as I was, and especially as I was trying to stop drinking and I'm like certain things that would like, oh, I actually. 

[00:42:21] Cardsy.B: Feel, um, an energetic shift, but in a positive way versus in a numbing or an escaping way. And so things that I discovered along the way, um, and then that really like caused me to dive more into herbology. So like a big chunk of it are actually like healing herbal elixirs, um, in, in the book that like in terms of whether it's for heart opening, whether it's for like cleansing and clearing. 

[00:42:42] Cardsy.B: Um, and then there's also some like, yeah, meditations and spell work as well. But it's, a lot of it are things that were almost placed in my path. Even how I ended up working with plant medicine. There's a whole chapter, everyone's, uh, so many, so many people reference the ayahuasca chapter of like people that are curious about plant medicine. 

[00:42:57] Cardsy.B: Cuz it's kind of like the good, the bad and the ugly of [00:43:00] ayahuasca. It's, it's not definitely like the magic, like, oh, just take this magic tea and everything resets. It's definitely like really deep and intense healing work. But I, um, You know, shared my journey with that and how that showed up in my life was a crazy sync, synchronicity that it was presented to me. 

[00:43:15] Cardsy.B: And I think that like when we learned to access our intuition and like start to listen to it more and dial up that the volume on it, um, things do kind of present the themselves in our path. So a lot of the things, it felt accidental, but obviously it was all de divinely planned that those tools showed up. 

[00:43:32] Cardsy.B: And the more that I embraced it and worked with it, um, then I started creating a lot of my, my own spells, rituals and herbal elixirs and was just sharing them with people. And even, you know, the still the largest part of my, my business, aside from like my writing and podcast is one-on-one sessions. And people even started requesting like, oh, I listened to your podcast before I read your book. 

[00:43:49] Cardsy.B: Can you give me, um, a ritual or tools around this specific thing I'm working with? And I found that that was something that just through the healing that I received and things I worked through, I started to. [00:44:00] Um, intuitively be able to craft, like put like with, you know, herb herbal intention making, elixirs, creating, um, spells in terms of working with different tools and like putting intentions into, into the work to, to move through periods of transformation and healing. 

[00:44:16] Rae: Yeah. So it's so cool cuz you referenced spells and I'm thinking in my mind that, you know, I'm like, oh, these are spells. But I think about the way that I've manifested things in my life. It essentially is like different spells, you know? Yeah. We're just not re, we're not realizing like we are actually bringing that, that witchery into our lives. 

[00:44:37] Rae: Not even realizing, cuz I mean, I'm such a huge thing. I mean, reality bending, timeline jumping and all of these things. I mean, these are big parts of my practice, which are like almost little spells that you're casting out there and putting 'em out there. But very intentional, like clear ways that are for the benefit of your life and others hopefully. 

[00:44:56] Rae: But the herbal elixirs, I, I mean, I'm [00:45:00] huge on the health and, and, and herbs and finding different things that work for me, my dogs and my clients as well. But I've never really thought about it in the way of actually creating this use with. The spells and like using that with the energy to open up your heart shock or open up probably your sac or whatever that it is. 

[00:45:19] Rae: That's definitely something I'm gonna have to explore a little bit more because that feels like it could be really potent and powerful  

[00:45:25] Cardsy.B: in itself. Oh totally. And I think there, like to your point when you're like, it is all just like clear intention. I even feel like though, like cuz it kind of builds of, um, and it makes sense because like the story is me being like quite unawakened to my own like thing, my own powers, my own healing abilities, my own intuition in the beginning. 

[00:45:40] Cardsy.B: So the this like, um, spells and rituals get kind of more involved and like a little bit more intense throughout the duration of the book and it starts, the first one I think is literally, um, an intuition latte and it's like adding, um, specific herbs that open up our third eye and that bring in more self-love and more awareness like cinnamon, like nutmeg, [00:46:00] um, like kind of the calming tranquility of vanilla to be able to access, um, more clearly without the kind of high anxiety. 

[00:46:06] Cardsy.B: Like is it intuition, is it anxiety? Um, so I go through like what each of the herbs that you can put into whether a macho latte or a coffee latte, and even as you add them and stir it in clockwise to call in, there's a little bit of, it's just like a delicious latte in the morning. But like the intent that we're saying, like, I wanna access my intuition more today. 

[00:46:23] Cardsy.B: I wanna call in more self-love. I wanna call in more abundance in this area of my life. It really does kind of set you up for being, being conscious of your ability to call it in and receive it, versus just like getting the coffee when you're half awake, chugging it to, to like get the caffeine fixed. Um, so it starts off with little, uh, like some more, um, simpler but definitely very potent daily, daily elixirs and routines, and then goes into a little bit more intense work if you're moving through massive transformation. 

[00:46:50] Cardsy.B: If you're working through cord cutting, for example, closer to the end of the book.  

[00:46:55] Rae: That's so, so fine. First of all, it's just like so fun and it is [00:47:00] making me realize I have put cinnamon in my, my coffee for like 10 years. It's something I cannot have not have in my coffee. And I mean, not just a, a small little sprinkle. 

[00:47:10] Rae: I mean, I put like a whole tablespoon in my coffee like every  

[00:47:13] Cardsy.B: day. Oh, it's so crazy. So like, my best friend who's also an Aquarius, um, she like, and I, this is like in the first chapter of the book of like, I was like woke, woke up completely hungover in her hotel room. She was visiting from Toronto and she was making like the sad paper cup of coffee in the hotel room and she had cinnamon in her purse and like put it in. 

[00:47:31] Cardsy.B: And I was like, oh, like what is that? Cuz it's something she's always done. And she was like, well first of all it stabilizes blood sugar. That's the other thing in my electros I explained medicinally and metaly what it does. And she's like, first of all, it stabilizes blood sugar and your hangover freaking needs it right now. 

[00:47:44] Cardsy.B: And she's like, and on a, on a healing level, she's like, it, it opens the third eye and invites in love. And she's like, you need a, a lot of all of that. So like, here's your cinnamon coffee. And I was just like, so like at that point, like in this hazy hangover of like, who puts cinnamon, their coffee? And I was like, oh, this tastes really good. 

[00:47:59] Cardsy.B: And to this [00:48:00] day now I add that into, um, like matcha lattes when I'm making people lattes. And it is with that intention of like heightened, um, intuition. He heightened ability to receive the Venus energy of love. Oh, that's  

[00:48:12] Rae: so cool. Oh my gosh, that's so much fun. I'm definitely gonna have to incorporate more of these fun little, like I do them, but with the intention, I feel that how you're explaining it is like having that intention behind it, you know, the ritual and really like invoking that into it. 

[00:48:27] Rae: It just makes sipping my, my cuz I have this whole practice with my latte. I mean, and it shifts like in the winter I'll do more turmeric and have like the, the powder, the turmeric powder in there. Yeah. Or cardamon or something, you know, it just depends. But cinnamon is always my staple and then I always do my collagen. 

[00:48:44] Rae: And um, right now I'm doing more cacao with it as well. Um, yeah, so I came back from Belize. I brought back some really good cacao that was native down there and very natural. I can't get it from here and  

[00:48:57] Cardsy.B: that's so crazy. I order mine from Belize. That's [00:49:00] so interesting. The  

[00:49:01] Rae: link of where you get it, because. 

[00:49:03] Rae: There's, I've tried to get a couple other ones since I ran out of that and they just don't even do it  

[00:49:08] Cardsy.B: justice. That there's, I'll send you the link. It's called Dr. Kaka and he, um, I met him in line at like a, a healing event and we just started talking about kaka and he was like, oh yeah, he lived in Belize for a long time. 

[00:49:20] Cardsy.B: And he was like, that's where I like, get the cacao from. And he, he'll do herbal blends with it as well, or you can just get it pure and like add your own herbs. But, um, that's, it's the, and I've tried so many and so there must be something like really powerful about the land there in terms of, of, um, yeah, in terms of just like growing and creating cacao. 

[00:49:36] Rae: Yeah, that's, it is. I mean, and Belize is just a really cool country to begin with and just very grounded. It's a very laid back and very friendly. It's just interesting around that. But, um, yeah, and I'm ju I mean my, my morning, it's like as soon as I get up that's that before I feed the dogs, before I do anything, my, my coffee's already brewed. 

[00:49:55] Rae: It's like, get my little thing together. So now I'm just gonna be really intentional with all of this knowing that like, [00:50:00] Half the shit I'm doing is already like, it's like opening up my third eye and doing all this, really getting me prepared for the day of like, what's ahead. It's so cool. Yeah,  

[00:50:09] Cardsy.B: and I think it's like those, those small but like powerful things in the morning. 

[00:50:12] Cardsy.B: It really does. Cuz there are days where I'm not perfect on it every day. There are days where I'm like rushing outta bed and like, oh, I'm like, the first thing I do is answer emails, which is not, you know, we've all, we all know that's not good. Um, but then the days that I'm like, okay, I'm really gonna sit and like, make my tea and infuse it with these herbs and like sit with my dog. 

[00:50:29] Cardsy.B: Um, do meditation. It really changes the whole trajectory of my day, and I do feel more worthy of receiving when I sit in that energy. So yeah, there's a lot of good little, um, easy to, to access tools and, um, even the elixirs, like I said, they start off quite simple and most of it I tried to construct. The early ones were things that I just found early on that most of us have in our spice cabinet, you know, and then they get more, more in intense, like later on in the book where if you wanna get, which here, um, and then have a whole like apotheker, like, I like my now kitchen looks like. 

[00:50:57] Cardsy.B: People are always like, what is all of this? [00:51:00] Oh my God, it gets addictive. It's like what they say about crystals. It's like, oh, you just buy one rose quartz, then all of a sudden there's crystals all over your house. My, my whole kitchen is like an apothecary now, but  

[00:51:09] Rae: yeah, sometimes I wonder if that's like a Libra thing because my cousin is a, a Libra son and also has a Venus and Libra, and then I've got like a lot of Libra energy in my chart. 

[00:51:18] Rae: And then I know you have your Libra moon. It's like, yeah. Labor thing. We're really, it's like always balancing the energy there, getting all these things. It's like, yes, so weirdest things in my kitchen too, but it's, it is fun and it's kind of like my own weirdo little space And you know, I'm always saying to people, if you ever come into my world, like to me it's so normal. 

[00:51:37] Rae: But if somebody else comes in it's like, what is going on here? And I don't, you take it for granted of like how fun that is and how unique of like a character trait that is to have that fun. Like having all these little concoctions and doing all Yes.  

[00:51:51] Cardsy.B: Like, yeah. It's so funny because when I lived, I lived briefly in Pennsylvania before I moved to Miami, when I was trying to figure out my next move when I exited Manhattan. 

[00:51:59] Cardsy.B: And um, [00:52:00] it was like you were only like an hour  

[00:52:01] Rae: from me, I think, when you were there cuz you were in camp. Yeah. Yes.  

[00:52:05] Cardsy.B: Totally. Um, and my, it was so funny cuz my dad's friends are just very like, very salt to the earth, but like, you know, born and raised in the, the center of Pennsylvania and were very wary of like my witchery. 

[00:52:15] Cardsy.B: They're like, I don't know about this crazy little witch. And then I would give them elixirs for whether they were like, run down like sinus stuff or I, they, my dad has like a poker game and I had this like, like prosperity tea that had, um, I literally like have like four leaf clovers that I would collect and like put them in the tea. 

[00:52:32] Cardsy.B: And, but now my, this, his one friend Steve is always like, I missed that little witch in her potions. I was here and I'm like, okay, uncle Steve, I'll tell you how to make it. He's like, I'm never gonna make it myself. But like they, I finally kind of like got them to come around very like practical magics. 

[00:52:48] Cardsy.B: Style where they're like, I don't know about this. This is like from the devil. And then it was like, wait, wait, can I get some more of that tea from last week? You know? So cool.  

[00:52:56] Rae: So I'd have to ask, because you're so good at like, even that, like putting [00:53:00] yourself out there and bringing in your little concoctions. 

[00:53:01] Rae: This is something I have personally struggled with and I think, you know, some of it is just life experience. Some of it, I know I've Saturn in Leo, so that kind of restricts some of that like coming out in that sense, you know? And it is in my 11th house and I try not to make that be like a, you know, like a deficit to me and try to work with it. 

[00:53:21] Rae: But for those of us that like, it just feels that you, you, and this might not be the case, but from the outside looking in, it's like, oh, here she's just putting herself out there so raw and so authentic and. Like I do all kinds of these little fun spells and not, you know, realizing it's so much of my world and when I talk to clients one to one, it's similar where you're sharing those things, but as far as like putting it out there with your dad's friends and Yeah. 

[00:53:49] Rae: And, and then, you know, having coming in and like, and your, your character who you are, it's really actually who you are. I mean, you love black. Yeah. You dress in the way that you dress. [00:54:00] It's just who you are. Like is that effortless for you to do that? Is there any part of you that's ever going, well, what do people think or how will I be perceived? 

[00:54:09] Rae: And either way, like what advice would you give to those of us that. Not, I mean, whether it's a struggle or maybe like an inhibition for me, I don't think it's a struggle. I can just feel a little inhibited in that way.  

[00:54:23] Cardsy.B: Yeah. No, thank you so much. Like, that's such a, first of all, such a beautiful compliment and um, it's such a, it's such an interesting question because I do think that like, um, it truly is just me and I am unapologetic in it because I grew up, like I did grow up in rural Pennsylvania and from a young age, like in, even down to being into like te astrology when that wasn't cool, I definitely like knew I was gay at a young age when like it wasn't as like, you know, acceptable on a, on a mainstream level as it is now. 

[00:54:50] Cardsy.B: And I just, I knew I was. Different. And like I just had to be me. Cuz there was almost no way of fitting it. I, it, when I tried it felt more restrictive and like that [00:55:00] I was like failing more. So I think that those things, what I would say about that, the things that feel, um, really challenging and like extreme adversity in our life. 

[00:55:08] Cardsy.B: I often find, we see why because it was like, because I could, there was no other thing to do, but like, just be like, this is me. I'm a huge weird, like, witchy nerd. I was bullied. I was like, I had a like not such a great childhood growing up the way that I did. Um, but it also like left me what I felt like we always had free will, but like almost no choice but to be authentic. 

[00:55:26] Cardsy.B: And it's funny to me when people, I'm so flattered when people think I'm cool, like it blows my mind when people are like, oh my God. But like, you're so cool. And like, I like, you know, when people follow my podcast or read my book and they're like, I, I, I, cause I'm such a nerd, I'm such a freaking weirdo. I have felt like such a weirdo and such an outsider since a young age. 

[00:55:43] Cardsy.B: And I think that like, just embracing it of like, there's no way I'm gonna fit in, so I might as well just be me. And even though at the time it was really hard to be like bullied and ostracized and feel weird, I'm almost so grateful for that experience that I wasn't able to fit in. It was like my higher self, my guides [00:56:00] were like, I. 

[00:56:00] Cardsy.B: No, no, honey, we're not gonna make it easy for you. But like, this is gonna serve you in like owning your voice and owning, owning how you share yourself with the world. Because even people have said in my book like, you're so vulnerable. Like, it's like, I always say the villain in this book is me. You know, like, yeah, I was friends with famous people and there's like crazy things that happened, but I'm like, I show all of my darkness and all of the craziness that I went through. 

[00:56:22] Cardsy.B: And I think that there's, um, like something in like having always felt like an outsider and having always felt, um, that I didn't fit in, that there's like no way to do, to do it the right way. So the only way I can be is, is myself. But I think that a lot of, in this space, in the healing space, it can be. Um, really challenging, especially when we do like, follow other people and there's a lot of these like social media, Instagram, TikTok gurus and it's like, oh, I'm not doing it like them, or it doesn't look like them. 

[00:56:49] Cardsy.B: And when I first started, I'm not gonna lie, like coming out of the spiritual closet in a big way and doing this business was much more terrifying to me than when I came out as a lesbian. Cuz I was like, oh my goodness. [00:57:00] Um, I'm like this, like fashion New Yorker, they're not gonna accept me. And I know that I don't look like what people expect to be kind of in that. 

[00:57:07] Cardsy.B: Space. And I did have like a lot of intimidation of how I was showing up the content I was posting, and I was like, okay, I'm just gonna do what I always did and do it in my own weird way. And then when people, when it started to resonate, and like I said, when I was seeing like Gen Zers posting my tarot deck on TikTok, and I was like, people get it. 

[00:57:24] Cardsy.B: Like it's okay. And like, I think that I just focused on that. I did definitely, and I still occasionally do get some crazy hate mail of, you know, like that I'm like a Satanic witch or that I'm a Illuminati. Um, which is always fun. But I really just try to focus on seeing like the people that are like, oh, they, they get it. 

[00:57:41] Cardsy.B: And even if that's like a, a handful of people, that's enough to be like, there's a reason that I'm expressing myself authentically. Like, to, to make someone else feel like they can fit in where they may not have, you  

[00:57:51] Rae: know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's so I love that. I love you sharing that story because it is so important to really feel that [00:58:00] vulnerability and be transparent. 

[00:58:01] Rae: I'm so transparent in the things that I've experienced as well and what they, you know, the impact that that. You know, left me in moving through that, navigating that. And I feel like it's definitely been a journey for me to find my authentic voice and sharing in that in a way that because of adversity and lack of acceptance and, you know, um, conditioning and growing up, very strict religious and, you know, there, everybody has different, you know, some people have really supportive parents. 

[00:58:28] Rae: Some people do not. You know, and yeah, I have heard from multiple people that coming out of the spiritual closet was way more intense than coming out of the closet as Yeah. And doing so. I mean, I've actually heard that from numerous, numerous people because you are now putting all of that difference that. 

[00:58:48] Rae: Was probably a big reason of why you were bullied and why things didn't happen for you earlier in childhood. And I also feel that through my twenties I navigated so much of that and into [00:59:00] my early thirties until I left my first marriage as well of like that coming into that authenticity and making choices and decisions that really weren't aligned with like who I was. 

[00:59:10] Rae: But I was meant to go through those experiences to come into who I was and putting myself in more adversity and more, you know, just challenging situations where the bullying continued not in a way of as a, as a traumatic, like as a child, but it was in different ways through employees, through different, um, relationships in particular with women and, and continuing to have that. 

[00:59:34] Rae: And I found that for me it was more of a struggle because I was looking at those things of like, what is wrong with me that I can't. I can't seem to fit in that these people are turning onto me. I took it as a personal thing. Like, what? There must be something wrong with me. You know? Yeah. And now I've, I've become friends with human design and that's been really clarifying of like knowing I'm a three six. 

[00:59:56] Rae: And that's very like the three line. And then the six [01:00:00] line, from what I understand, are pretty like challenging lines to deal with, but you're always learning through your experiences. And with a three line, it's such a, um, Uh, um, it is always a reflection where a lot of the times people with that three line feel like there's something wrong with me because you're learning so much through those relationships. 

[01:00:19] Rae: And so I feel like, you know, listening to your story is kind of like flipping it around N there's n into, there's not something wrong with me. I'm actually really unique and different, and I'm going to use that as almost a superpower and, and really come through this because I have no choice, because it's worse and it's more painful. 

[01:00:39] Rae: And I've learned that too. It was more painful Yeah. To please those situations and stay in those situations or those people. And now it's like when people like that come into my world, I have like almost an instant radar for it that. I'm not, you know, cut off, but I'm also just like, yeah, I don't need that shit. 

[01:00:56] Rae: It's just, there's some in my world for it. Like I'm just not even gonna do it. [01:01:00] And then that every time you make those decisions, it's almost more empowering. And then as I've done that in my life, and I consider myself a little bit of a light bloomer in this, that the more that I do that, the more powerful my words get, the more powerful my expression is, the more powerful my work gets. 

[01:01:14] Rae: And like who I am in the world, you know? Yeah.  

[01:01:17] Cardsy.B: And I think that the more that you stand in that the less like, than than experiences that are, um, people trying to, that, that come in, that make you feel like you have to change who you are, show up differently, show up less than it bounces off to the point that then you're not even engaging with that energy, like hardly ever, if ever. 

[01:01:33] Cardsy.B: Mm-hmm. Um, cuz I have to say like, I've been considering that like the, like I've built a lot of my platform on Instagram. Like I get a very, very. Small amounts of like negative comments, like hate mail. And I'm like, I'm so blessed in that because I know a lot of people in that space do. And like I said, I get the occasional people that like, you know, give me, give me a hard time about like witchcraft or, or like, you know, that it's demonic or of the dark. 

[01:01:55] Cardsy.B: But um, overall I have, I've been met with like so much like support and acceptance. [01:02:00] I think because it is that exactly what you're saying is like the more you stand in that your words have more power and there's almost this energy of like, I know who I am and I'm comfortable in who I am. So it really doesn't matter. 

[01:02:09] Cardsy.B: If that's not for you, it's okay. Change the station or like, you know, unsubscribe. Yeah. Like yeah.  

[01:02:16] Rae: If you don't like the interview process that I'm doing when I'm dating you, you can go somewhere else. Yes. Exactly.  

[01:02:21] Cardsy.B: Exactly. There is kinda like that unapologetic of like, cool. Then that's probably like it, that's, that in and of itself is telling us where we stand. 

[01:02:28] Cardsy.B: Yeah.  

[01:02:29] Rae: But I think it's so important for people to understand too, that even looking at you how you do this, so like you are the way that you're so visible, and I mean Rebecca, she does daily tarot card draws on her Instagram channel, so get on. She is always sharing content and value and I watch it all the time. 

[01:02:47] Rae: I'm like always on her. It's like one of my first alerts that I come in and when I'm able to get on there, cuz I'm not on there a ton. But it's, you're, yeah, one of the first pages I go to, I get all caught up and not necessarily on the Daily Energy. I just [01:03:00] love your interpretation of the cards and so I use it more as to learn your interpretation of the different cards and like what that flows into. 

[01:03:08] Rae: And that's helped me with my translation of having a practice with tarot that I now have through, you know, fun cards that really align with me and, um, and using that more for that. But, you know, I think it's really. Kind of important to remember, like you didn't just get there to this layer of expression. 

[01:03:27] Rae: It took bravery. It took courage, it took reflection. It took overcoming addiction. I know like, oh, for sure about that before with your journey, and I'm also one of these that I feel like. You know, this gray area of drinking too is really not spoken enough about, and for, for in particular, I think with women, I mean, I think it is for men too, but I, I think there's just not enough support for that with women and, and hiding ourselves and hiding our emotions and feeling like we're not supposed to be sensitive. 

[01:03:54] Rae: We're not supposed to have feminine desires and, and want that connection and want that relationship that [01:04:00] we're supposed to do it all, all on our own and be, you know, independent bad asses, which we can be, but we can still be that and have these deeper desires and have an emotional landscape and, you know, have this like feminine sensitivity. 

[01:04:13] Rae: I mean, we have hormones. We're not meant to be like men in that sense. Like we have hormones that are fluctuating all the time and we're sensitive to the energies of the earth way more sensitive. So these cycles, like I feel impact us so much more in just being able to like kind of. Drop in and say, yeah, like, I'm just aware of this and I've taken the time to really get to know myself and learn from all of those lessons instead of being a victim to it, you know? 

[01:04:36] Cardsy.B: Yeah. And I think, um, like especially as women in this time period, just talking about how there've been so many, like massive collective shifts and like ego dusts for a lot of us, I think that things that we used to just think we have to do to operate in more of the masculine mindset. Like even in terms of like the Monday to Friday work, weekend in office in terms of like, oh, when I am fluctuating because of, um, you know, [01:05:00] connection to Moon cycles, connection to the Earth, I should just be numbing so that I stay completely like. 

[01:05:05] Cardsy.B: Consistent flat line, like, like the masculine energy tends to be able to operate more in. And I think that removing a lot of that, like many people have the way that they're working, what they're putting in their bodies. I mean, my, my path was not like a traditional like 12 step or anything. It was just really acknowledging that I was doing a lot of numbing to like try to fit into something in terms of like my work life and what I was presenting as that wasn't really me. 

[01:05:29] Cardsy.B: And I think that that is something that's really beautiful of so many of us reclaiming that feminine energy and like, whoa, this is different. This feels very, um, it feels like, you know, our truth and who we are, but like very different than what we've been programmed to operate in. And learning how to operate from from that space is very empowering but also really different. 

[01:05:49] Cardsy.B: Yeah.  

[01:05:49] Rae: Yeah. I love this. I feel like I could just talk to you like all day, you know? It's so much fun. Yeah. Like that you're always bringing so much like neat information and insight to the world [01:06:00] and the magic that you bring forward is truly inspirational. I'm inspired, I am gonna start really, um, actually have some space after, after this, and I'm gonna start looking at, um, different, uh, herbs and fun things. 

[01:06:13] Rae: And even doing this in a more, um, like as you were speaking, I was just getting the download to start working with even these more powerful, energetic cycles and, and working with them through the wave, like working with the herbs and different rituals and that sense. And that's something I've been wanting to do more of in my life anyways. 

[01:06:30] Rae: And now I've just gotten, it's almost like the, the reminder of like, yeah, yes. Like this is so much of the medicine that I share with people and talk with people as well. And I do it in my life, but I'm not, um, and I do it actually often, but I'm not like, It's like I'm not giving it enough credit for what it does help me with and guide me with, guide me with, and assist me with. 

[01:06:52] Rae: So, Um, for those of you that wanna connect with you more, there's obviously your Instagram and it is [01:07:00] card Card zb, right?  

[01:07:01] Cardsy.B: At Cardi? Yeah. C C A R D S Y B. Um, so that's everything's card zb. If you Instagram TikTok on my website's card zb.com. So once you have that, like every, everything's accessible.  

[01:07:13] Rae: Yeah. And I know I've sent several clients to you in the past, but for anybody listening, go have a session. 

[01:07:19] Rae: She's, she's really affordable and she's also got some amazing new offerings that I, uh, was just talking with her before hopping on here that working with Abundance Love. Will you talk about them? Because you're gonna talk. Yeah.  

[01:07:30] Cardsy.B: Yeah. That was, um, one of the things I was just saying to, um, at the beginning of this is that, um, people were coming to me with kind of specific areas of focus. 

[01:07:38] Cardsy.B: So I've crafted three new offerings, one about tapping into receiving abundance, so working with clearing any, um, old programming, scarcity, and then how do we open more to receiving that. Um, sim similarly receiving love, tapping into our own self-love, first and foremost. And then the third offering around accessing intuition. 

[01:07:55] Cardsy.B: And in each of those it does start with, um, a reading of tapping into, [01:08:00] um, your higher self, your guides, but then also adding on tools like, like we've talked about here. Some, some of them are herbal elixirs, some meditations, um, that I'll send through after some journaling prompts that are like really, really diving into those areas. 

[01:08:12] Cardsy.B: Um, so that's in addition to just offering my standard one-on-one reading sessions. There's, there are also, um, those three, um, in kind of more intense healing sessions as well. Yeah.  

[01:08:22] Rae: And of course your book, I'll put a link to the book in the show notes as well. And, uh, for your cards, your, your deck cards. 

[01:08:29] Rae: So cuz they're super cool. So I have a, I have a set so it's like, just so you guys know, it's like they're really cool. It's one of my favorite decks to work with. Well I thank you so much for coming on here and sharing your gifts with my community and, um, also with the world cuz she's, she's really phenomenal and I hope you guys have felt inspired and just the way that I have of connecting with, uh, Rebecca's energy and thank you so much. 

[01:08:53] Cardsy.B: Thank you so much. 

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