[00:00:00] Rae: Welcome to the Untamed Soul Podcast. I am your host, Raechelle Embrey, the founder of Radiant Vibes. I am a spiritual mentor and intuitive, energetic alchemists for you, your animals, and your soulful business. This is a podcast devoted to soul activation and embodied entrepreneurship. It is an exploration. Of inspirational humans who are leading the path to a new earth.
[00:00:34] Rae: Along the way, I will share intuitive insight and practical wisdom to inspire infinite potential in every area of your life. I am so excited to have you on this journey, so together we can become untamed.
[00:00:59] Rae: I wanted to [00:01:00] take a brief moment just to talk a little bit about what is going on in my world and how you can connect with me before we dive into today's episode. So, I'm currently taking applications for my six month mentorship container called Embody. Embody is for those who are really wanting to go deep into their most authentic expression and become the embodiment of their aligned offers money, energy.
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[00:02:37] Rae: Outside of that, I also have a six week one-to-one mentorship program that is called Clarify. And with this, this is more for you if you have very specific issues and you are needing the combination of energetics to shift those issues and then bring strategy into your support system. Um, really great container to get a [00:03:00] lot of deep clarity around very specific issues.
[00:03:03] Rae: And I also offer 90 minute calibration sessions. So those are called calibrate, and those are more intensive strategy sessions with a little bit of embodiment. We will also look at your astrology and all of these, so we can see where the shadows are, where there's more potency that needs to emerge within you so that you can feel more free and expressive with your offerings, your content, who you are, and like really show up as your empowered entrepreneur.
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[00:03:45] Rae: So let's hop over. Here's the show.
[00:03:49] Rae: Hello. Hello. I am so happy to introduce this week's wonderful collaborator who has been a true [00:04:00] inspiration to me for many years. Um, years ago, uh, when I first got onto Instagram, I stumbled again, uh, across her Instagram page. And just was so lit up by how she shared about astrology in such a humorous way that was raw, talking about the shadows of all of our different aspects of astrology, and bringing just a fun light approach to the healing process through astrology.
[00:04:23] Rae: So her name is Renata Tevas. Tarara key. I knew I was talking.
[00:04:30] Renata: So Taravski
[00:04:31] Rae: ski. Yeah. And Renata is a straight talking naturopath turned soul astrologer, Reiki master and business mentor who cuts through the spiritual fluff to deliver the sassy cosmic wisdom you didn't even know you were searching for. But what makes Renata a true master of her craft is her commitment to helping spiritual entrepreneurs.
[00:04:53] Rae: Seekers, leaders, healers and coaches confidently service the world in the, oh my God, I actually [00:05:00] get paid for this way. They were born to do so. So if you love a no BS approach with a little woo and someone who's already walked the path to tell, to tell you exactly what you need to do to make that happen, Renata is definitely your girl, and I can so vouch for that.
[00:05:14] Rae: And all you need to do is just go hop on her Instagram page and you will like in the first it's, it's all the way through and she's. Never shifted from that like really raw approach and just cause it how it is. And I love that For some people might be a little like, oh crap, I feel so called out. But I think that's the point, right?
[00:05:34] Rae: It's the fun of it. So, um, Ren, I'd love for you to share a little bit first, your Sunman Rising. Have to always share that. And then a little bit about your story that's led you to this business, and then also to where you're going. Yeah. Thanks
[00:05:49] Renata: for having me. Um, I, I, I'm, I appreciate you inviting me to have this type of conversation today.
[00:05:55] Renata: And yeah, the sun, moon and rising. So I'm a Leo's Sun in the 12th house. I [00:06:00] am a Ari, uh, rising Leo, and I am a moon in Pisces and the eighth house. Oh, wow.
[00:06:07] Rae: You see, you're Leo Sun 12 house and then a Leo rising, and then your Pisces Moon in the eighth house. That is really cool. So that explains so much about all of the like shadowy stuff that you blend in your Pisces eighth and then the boldness to be able to put it out there in the way that you do all that Leo funds stuff.
[00:06:29] Rae: Yeah,
[00:06:29] Renata: yeah, yeah. And I have a lot of Scorpio aspecting my top three. So like that's why I bring the shadows in the funny way, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's really weird, but yeah, it is. Oh my story. You want me to share my story now? Um, Like from the very beginning, like, well, like, I mean like the origin of my birth.
[00:06:52] Rae: Just, you know, where did you come from? Was this always just where you landed? You know, did you, did you move from [00:07:00] another career and shift into this and also a little bit about your path? Were you always a spiritually like a stew person that just kinda. It was there or is this something you evolved into?
[00:07:11] Rae: Totally. Okay. So
[00:07:12] Renata: Coleson version of my life. Got it. So on July 24th, no, I'm kidding. Sorry. I'm sorry. Ok. Everyone's like, get on with it. Um, so no, I, I de I definitely, definitely did not think this is what I would be doing. Okay. Um, what I did know growing up, I was, I always, I was always fascinated with psychology, so I thought I was gonna be, A psychiatrist.
[00:07:38] Renata: And then I also thought I was gonna be an actress. So, um, and yes, as a kid I would say that I fit in, but there was a part of me that always felt different. Like I always, I thought a little outside the box, but um, I did have these instances growing up that I realized was not the norm. And I think just, you know, [00:08:00] learning that that wasn't the norm, you kind of hide that cuz it's like that's not common.
[00:08:04] Renata: Mm-hmm. So I would say yes. I did and I hid that part of myself very, very long time. The fact that I just thought differently, I operated differently. I was very ahead of my time. And it wasn't until I was in university and I had my own, I would call it my first, you wanna call it existential crisis, spiritual awakening, darken eye, soul.
[00:08:24] Renata: I don't care how you slap a label on it, everyone's gonna relate to this in their own context. Mm-hmm. I was in university and I had this moment that I was in studying in neuroscience, and I thought I was gonna be a psychiatrist. And I, there was a lot of things that happened in my life. I mean, from a, from personal relationships to friendships to family.
[00:08:44] Renata: And then I just kind of woke up one day. I'm like, what the hell am I doing? And I started to feel outta control. You know, and I don't, I don't need to go into details, but there was just a lot that was happening at once that kind of set me over the edge. Mm-hmm. I'm gonna be completely honest. Up to that point in my life, I didn't really understand how people got [00:09:00] depressed or felt like anxious.
[00:09:01] Renata: Like I, maybe I was a warrior, but the universe was like, like your Sloan lesson. You know, and I would say that I spiraled in a deep, dark depression. Mm-hmm. Okay. And I felt outta control and I felt very, like, I don't know what the hell I'm doing with my life. There was issues with friend groups, intimate relationships, family, everything.
[00:09:20] Renata: And I just kind of felt fell apart. Mm-hmm. In a million little pieces. But in a way to cope, I developed an eating disorder cause I felt so outta control that the only way that I felt I could be in control was through that. Mm-hmm. And here I am being like I, I'm like a shell of a human. I don't even know how I got to this point in my life, but I started to realize, cuz I went to the doctor and I was kinda like, again, I was like, this was over.
[00:09:44] Renata: Oh, I don't know, it's maybe my second or third year. I always get the timeline exactly wrong. But regardless, it was 17 ish years ago, you know? And mental health wasn't really talked about. It was very taboo. Mm-hmm. And I was like, I am [00:10:00] not me. I don't know what's going on, but this ain't right. And I remember I was, it was kind of like I was met with, what do you mean?
[00:10:05] Renata: Like, you're not yourself anymore and here's like an antidepressant or go. I was like, can I talk to somebody? Like I was very like, I'm gonna fix a problem. And when I wrote to the counselor I was really met with, I felt very like, judged in a lot of shame. And I was like, damn, like I'm thinking like, you should not be doing this for a living.
[00:10:20] Renata: Like this is, this is an awful experience. And I remember leaving the counselor and I was like, I'm definitely not gonna go on any SSRIs like a drug. Like that's just not what resonates. And I, I don't judge people if that's what they choose to do, but for me, something in my soul was like, that's not it.
[00:10:37] Renata: Mm-hmm. Shortly thereafter, so here I am wanting to go into psychiatry, and I was like, this is not what I wanna get into, because like something happened that triggered this spiraling in my life. Mm-hmm. Later on that week, I remember there was like a job fair at my university. I walked across this naturopathic like table and instantly I was like, this makes so much sense.[00:11:00]
[00:11:00] Renata: And there I was like, I've never met a naturopath. Never seen a naturopath. Never really heard. I don't even know if I heard of a naturopath up to that point, to be honest with you. But when I was reading the pamphlet, I'm like, yeah, he healed the root car. Like we're, this makes so much sense. And so I was torn between being a teacher.
[00:11:17] Renata: Cause after I was like, I'm not gonna be a psychiatrist. I don't wanna be giving people medication like this, something, something happened here. I was still in the development of healing myself. I decided to eventually pursue naturopathic medicine and that's where I really started to heal. So this is where I started to learn the mind body connection, the, the, the, the gut.
[00:11:34] Renata: Like mm-hmm Trauma, psychology, the chakra, spirituality. And that's when really things like blasted off. Mm-hmm. And I was like, I kind of felt like it was like a Hogwarts, you know, like I was like, I felt like Harry Potter. And I was like, I finally belong with my people, you know? And then eventually I was like, Hey, this is it.
[00:11:53] Renata: I found my path. I'm gonna be a natural path. I'm gonna help people heal naturally. This is amazing. Mind, body, and soul. [00:12:00] So then I'm at, I'm, I'm working, you know, in a clinic and I'm working at two places, but one place I'm working part-time for a corporate establishment as their natch bath. And I'm sitting at my desk one day and I'm looking at my schedule.
[00:12:13] Renata: My schedule is completely filled. And I remember being like, why the hell do I feel so empty? Like something's missing. And what else was going on in my life was I was starting to get panic attacks. So every time I turned right into the parking lot to my job, I started to, like, my heart started to beat outta my chest.
[00:12:30] Renata: I started to shake as I walked up to the stairs to my office and I would have sit for a couple minutes and be like, what the hell is going on? Mm-hmm. I just went to school for a thousand years. Spent thousands of dollars of my money, now I'm in debt, and why am I having a panic attack? Why did I gain 10 pounds and why do I have this rash on my face?
[00:12:48] Renata: Mm-hmm. And I remember sitting there being like, this is it. And I remember being like, this is just a stepping stone. You know how hard that is to wrap your brain around when you're just like, [00:13:00] I thought this was it because I thought I had it all figured out and I had my plan. I went to school and it was six fig, multiple, six figures for all that, and it works my ass off.
[00:13:08] Renata: And now what? Mm-hmm. Now you want me to go over here? Are you insane? And I had this pull because I was starting to see patients and I realized people were, I called it, they weren't living in alignment. Mm-hmm. And here I am. I'm like, it's not a glu. Yeah, okay. Maybe cutting out gluten's gonna help with your inflammation, but like, you hate your job, you hate your, you hate your relationship.
[00:13:29] Renata: Like, I'm sorry, acupuncturing you or giving you like veg, adding more vegetables on your plane, gonna fix your problem. So the universe was bringing me people, but then I'm like, these people are disconnected from their soul and so am I. Mm-hmm. And I remember one day I had no plan, didn't know shit, but I was like, I can't keep doing this.
[00:13:43] Renata: And I quit. I had no plan. Luckily I still was living, I was living with my parents at the time, so that offset whatever, and even if I didn't, I still would've figured it out some way. Cause that's my personality. I was like, I can't keep doing this more. I keep having panic attacks. And once I left all that resolved.
[00:13:57] Renata: Mm-hmm. And then [00:14:00] from that journey, I started hiring a coach into personal development. Then I was like, Ooh, I like tarot. And then I discovered astrology, and it was just a snowball effect over years. And I started coaching people. But then I started to really get into the nuances of my tools and how I want to help people.
[00:14:14] Renata: So then over time I was blending coaching astrology, reiki, human design. In my own innovative, unique way to help other people who are out of alignment help them remember a who you are. Mm-hmm. And the fact that you are designed to serve the world differently. But I had to go through that myself to realize that all of our paths are gonna be unique and you're not.
[00:14:35] Renata: And sometimes it's not gonna
[00:14:36] Rae: be what you had in mind. Yeah. Wow. Okay. So that's. Just knowing that's a lot. Yeah. No, it's so good though. I have, I know how to shorten that story. Oh my
[00:14:48] Renata: great.
[00:14:51] Rae: No, it's so good because I think it's so relative that for one, people don't realize how. Often, like almost a hundred [00:15:00] percent of the time, the panic attacks and the anxiety that you're experiencing, the depression, all of that is so much because you're, you're off of alignment of where you, your soul is really desiring to be in this lifetime.
[00:15:11] Rae: Mm-hmm. Or call it soul, call it desire, call it whatever, you know. Spirit, you know, it's this like, there's something more within you that's there to be discovered. And so, you know, a lot of the times people will just push through that and push through it until the point, like you said, they're having rashes, they're having autoimmune, and they're having gluten in sensitivity.
[00:15:28] Rae: And I know I've been in situations where, and it's like, you know, no, this isn't it. It's the stress that you're bearing. You know? Yeah. I've had shingles, I've had even in as a, like, even once I opened up into this, it's like, because we're still in our humanity, right? Yeah. And. I've had cycles where I've gone through deep intense grief times and transitions and endings of relationships and moves and all these things.
[00:15:49] Rae: And then the stress. And I've got one thing that comes out in me is shingles. You know, so I'll get shingles. Mm-hmm. It's like, oh, okay. There you go. Not in alignment. Here you are internalizing everything [00:16:00] and just like pushing through and thinking that's the way to go. And it's really not. And I, I feel that so many people that I've connected with in my time of radiant vibes, Over the last six years is like seeing where that, that misalignment is and how, and how when somebody is not willing to really address those root causes, which are the emotional, you know, the disconnection and the not feeling satisfied in life.
[00:16:27] Rae: It's, it's really hard to get, make any type of like significant change in your world. Yeah. Whether that's weight aligned relationships, career purpose, you know, the lack of sleep, the crunching pain in your body, wherever that it is, it's really hard to shift those things. So I'm. I'm glad that you shared so vulnerably because I don't think enough emphasis is put on that.
[00:16:51] Rae: And then it's so easy just to like, and I'm, this is not to say that there's not a time and a place for medicine, but it's so quick to just slap a bandaid on and here's your pill, [00:17:00] and that just creates more. Disconnection because you're co becoming further disconnected from who you are. And sometimes those come with really significant side effects as well that perpetuate whatever it is that you're going on that's going on with your body or your emotional world.
[00:17:14] Rae: So it's uh, yeah, it's a real thing.
[00:17:17] Renata: Yeah. And I've used medicine over the years. I've had. Surgeries. I've had to use antibiotics here and there, but I tune into my body. So I've, I've been always very connected and I just knew at that point in my life, I was like, this isn't the answer. There's something going on here.
[00:17:29] Renata: Little did I know that was my initiation into like my destiny. Mm-hmm. And I look back, even in my astrology transits, that's the cycles that you go through in your life. What was going on? Then I'm like, damn. Like I wish I knew this back then. And then just getting these other tools or just tools that help you better understand yourself.
[00:17:46] Renata: I was like, I'm meant to be like in astrology. My midheaven is an Aries. Mm-hmm. Your midheaven is your, your your legacy point. It's like your, the, the work you're met, how you best meet your contribution mine's and Aries, and I'm here to be a trailblazer. I'm here to [00:18:00] like be a leader. I'm here to like, Charge and like follow my own path.
[00:18:04] Renata: I'm not here to necessarily work in a corporation and be like, am I allowed to do this? Like red tape and me don't work? Yeah,
[00:18:11] Rae: yeah. Well, and your moon in the eighth and then your Leo, your Leo energy. Yeah. You're no.
[00:18:17] Renata: So like, here I am completely. And then my human design where I started learning that, I was like, damn.
[00:18:21] Renata: So there's these different expressions and nuances to how you were really working. Look, I come, I've come to realize that through trial and error. So I always say to people, you don't need any of this information. It's just a tool to help you better understand yourself. But I recognize like, oh, when I, when I don't trust that instinct, cuz in human design I have is this called thing called sacred authority, which I help.
[00:18:42] Renata: That's my how my innate wisdom speaks to through me. But it's not for everyone. Some is their emotions, some is through talking it out, some it's their heart center. And for me, I was like, yeah, when I don't trust that gut, even if I don't have it all figured out, like that's never led me. Mm-hmm. The wrong
[00:18:56] Rae: way.
[00:18:57] Rae: Yeah. Yeah. I have Sacred World Authority too, and [00:19:00] it's been an interesting, you know, journey into human design for me as well, because learning how that is such a powerhouse. And when I, and look, if looking back through cycles of my life when I was not acknowledging that and just doing it because I'm supposed to work, I'm supposed to just do all of the things and create, you know, the stability so that other people can enjoy it and what happens and then you're going into people pleasing, oh my God, it's, so, it's really powerful to understand it because it's an innate.
[00:19:26] Rae: Like, it's just something feel in your body for, for us as Sapr April. For other people it's different, you know? But yeah, it's, and I feel like that's so important because it is tools and to understand how these things can really support you. They're not like you're, they're not good. You're the only one that's like accountable for your life.
[00:19:42] Rae: And the changes are the ways that you show up in life. These tools are very supportive and can be so helpful in helping you understand, so that you can embody more of who you are. And like a permission slip, like, oh, here you get to be this like, Oh, you, you get to have your moon in your eighth house. You get to be like, You know, super psychic [00:20:00] and intuitive and like, you know, like, I don't, you get it is, it's like a permission slip and I love it.
[00:20:04] Rae: Or the Aries on your mc and, and thanks for explaining that too, because some people listening that I think they're gonna have a background in astrology, but not gonna have like totally, very streamlined details of like what your mc is and stuff. Yeah.
[00:20:17] Renata: And then to make it even more fun, I, my destiny point, which is your north note, it's your North Star.
[00:20:21] Renata: It's like where, what's your karmic purpose? Is blended with my midheaven. It's a conjunction. So they mix together. So like my destiny is to figure out who I am, to be my own person, to trust my instincts to, you know, go in my own path and not be asking permission from people. Mm-hmm. Where I was always being like, am I allowed to do that?
[00:20:39] Renata: Is that okay? Like, and then I was like, everyone's gonna, some people are gonna say yes, and we were gonna say no. And it's like I have to be okay with disappointing others to choose myself. Doesn't mean I'm gonna be this selfish narcissist, but if I neglect. Who I am and I sacrifice myself just to get the approval of others, I'm off track.
[00:20:58] Renata: Mm-hmm.
[00:20:58] Rae: Yeah. [00:21:00] Now here's a, I'm a such an advocate for astrology and all of the tools, but what about for those that would come through this sort of like a skeptical way of understanding and say, but wait, aren't we all supposed to be like that? Aren't we all supposed to be acknowledging like our true self and moving through that and.
[00:21:18] Renata: Well, my true self has to be the trailblazer. Your true self might be to be the collaborator. Your true self might be meant, but it's not just one aspect. Like I'm the, I'm the pro. I'm the, I'm gonna drudge up the, I'm gonna provoke the truth through humor, and I'm gonna blaze my own trail. Where some are meant to be the c e o, some are meant to be the, and everyone's meant to be the comedic.
[00:21:39] Renata: Mm-hmm. Not everyone's, so your true self is still aligned, but it's like how that's expressed through your human design, for example, in your astrology, is your own unique, nuanced way. Yeah. So we're all meant to be our true self, but maybe your true self is very, you're very, um, diplomatic and that's where you, for example,
[00:21:56] Rae: like my, so my mc is cancer and Yeah.
[00:21:59] Rae: You know, so it's like [00:22:00] gonna be more nurturing, supportive containers with other people, but then it's also. It can have its downfalls too because it's so like, and I don't do well with cancer energy, even though it's there. It's like,
[00:22:12] Renata: well cancer's still like it's, yeah. It could be the nurture, it could help p people feel safe.
[00:22:18] Renata: It could be family oriented or like you, you want connections that feel like family, like your clients are like family to you. You treat them with that aspect. Mm-hmm. There's the mother arguing type. There's the emotional, like, again, you wanna look at your whole chart cuz this is where people piecemeal shit.
[00:22:32] Renata: And this is where as an astrologer, I go look. That's like Googling your symptoms on Google and you're not taking the complexity of your chart. Mm-hmm. So even when I'm reading and I send someone their report, I'm like, when I'm reading, I'm like a mad scientist cuz I'm like, my Mercury is also in cancer in the 12th.
[00:22:46] Renata: So I'm like, okay, this is here, but this is here and this is where you get tripped up. But this is what, this is what's like you're meant to lean into and you're not gonna get that from some generic report or Googling it. Yeah. So one thing that I invite people is [00:23:00] sometimes in astrology you're, you're reading about your sun and you're reading about your rising, but it's like you might have other planets or things going on in your chart that alter the expression of that.
[00:23:09] Renata: Mm-hmm. Yeah. So then you're like, I don't really jive with that. Well, yeah, of course not. Because you're seeing it through one lens. You're not actually seeing it through the lens that where it shows up in your life and how it expresses itself through you.
[00:23:21] Rae: Mm-hmm. Yeah. And it's so multifaceted in that way.
[00:23:25] Rae: So what are the, what are the planets or aspects that you would look to? I know there's a lot, right? Mm-hmm. So just kind of narrowing in to help somebody. Understand a little bit more about maybe their unique path.
[00:23:43] Renata: I would always look at, well, you wanna look at your nodes of destiny. Mm-hmm. So your north and south node, that's like your karmic destiny and your north node is like this sign and this like, how I read is I'll tell people, I'm like, this is your north node, this is the, okay.
[00:23:55] Renata: Say it's, say North node is an area is like, And these are, and I'll give them like, these are the [00:24:00] attributes you wanna ask yourself if you're leaning into, mm-hmm. Yeah. This is what you wanna, but this is the shadow, which is your self node, or not your, your shadow, but the self nodes, your karmic comfort zones, which you've mastered in a past lifetime.
[00:24:10] Renata: This is actually your blind spot. This is where you're gonna default to that you're not even aware of. Mm-hmm. And this is, you wanna reduce the shadow qualities, and I'll tell them what that is. So when they're in a situation, they're like, oh, damn. Yeah. I am being like, shadow there. So it just helps people have some context.
[00:24:28] Renata: Yeah. And then I'll say like, this is what you're, you're intended to develop. And it kind of gives 'em permission to lean into that side and also to be cognizant of when they're operating from the shadow.
[00:24:38] Rae: Mm-hmm. Yeah. And,
[00:24:40] Renata: and they still keep the good of the self node. The self node's not evil, right. Not bad.
[00:24:44] Renata: Or you gotta get, just get rid of it. No, you, you just wanna be cognizant that you're blending the better half of it, but you're leaning in that north node, which is the opposite of which you've mastered in a past lifetime. Mm-hmm.
[00:24:55] Rae: Yeah. Yeah. Those are important. I always feel like, cuz my self [00:25:00] nodes Aries and it's on my descendant.
[00:25:02] Rae: And then my north node Libra, it isn't the 12th house, but conjunct, my ascendant as well, pretty close. And then I have Pluto in the first, but they're all within like five degrees. So it's always interesting on that. But, so I always feel, I, I laugh at myself because I do have this, like I'm gonna do it my own.
[00:25:18] Rae: All the time, and I can get really just like, no, no, you know, very, very like focused on I'm doing it, you know, and like there's a wary, like I will tackle it. And I, when I was young, I would like pride myself on that. And now more and more it's, I, it's only taken me 45 years and I'm finally realizing, you know, it is nice to.
[00:25:39] Rae: Collaborate. It is nice to ask for help. It is nice to receive the help and let people like collaborate with you in all the aspects of life. And it's so interesting how, as I've leaned into that so much more has opened up for me and it's, and it's a little uncomfortable because I don't know it, you know?
[00:25:55] Rae: And then moving into it, it's become, Little bit more familiar, but it's [00:26:00] still something I have to consciously like, be like, yes, this is the way, this is the way, you know?
[00:26:04] Yeah.
[00:26:04] Renata: So I always say, explore your nose of destiny. And then my other thing is Kyron.
[00:26:09] Rae: Yeah. I was gonna ask you about Kyron. I heard you talking about that on another, um, collaboration.
[00:26:14] Rae: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:26:15] Renata: Chiron's your primal wound. Right? So, um, this is going to be your deep, deep insecurity. And it, again, people think they gotta get rid of it or like, Oh my God, I have to get, be perfect or heal it. And it's like, no, this, this is gonna be a wound. It's gonna be a scar. That's always there. As a teacher.
[00:26:32] Renata: As a reminder, am I working through the wound? Am I embodying what the wound is trying to teach me? Mm-hmm. Am I, um, so for example, Chiron and Gemini, I'm a Chiron and Gemini, and uh, what that means is the wound around words and communication. So that can manifest as not feeling smart enough or social anxiety, cuz Gemini rules like, Being social and friendships.
[00:26:54] Renata: It can, Kyron and Geminis have a unique perspective, but they're afraid to share their thoughts or ideas. They're not her. They're not, they're not [00:27:00] understood. Mm-hmm. They're misunderstood. So there's a wounding around speaking one's thoughts and expressions and ideas. Mm-hmm. Um, And part of the healing is to speak your truth in this lifetime.
[00:27:12] Renata: Right? To share those ideas. And you might not maybe unders you have this unique perspective and when you speak your truth, it's not about being right, it's not about having everyone agree with you. It's, it's that when you speak your truth, you in, you empower others to speak theirs. Mm-hmm. Right? Um, but that is a lifelong lesson of mine.
[00:27:33] Renata: So I have it. And like people will never guess that I have an issue or a fear out sharing my ideas. And that's why I say to people, cause people are like, oh, this is why I get annoyed as an astrologer. And this is, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't subscribe to this disempowering doom and gloom stuff. It, it irks me.
[00:27:49] Renata: Mm-hmm. And I say to people, I'm like, do, would you ever think I have an issue speaking my mind? And they're like, no. And I was like, I have an issue every day, some days worse, some days better. But [00:28:00] I know I'm designed, I'm actually, this is part of my healing mm-hmm. Is to share my truth. Mm-hmm. And I know that it will cause I will be misunderstood, things will be taken outta context.
[00:28:10] Renata: But I'm not meant to neglect again, who I am, nor note Aries at the expense to fit in and be a people pleaser myself. Note in Libra. And I'm here to share my truth and my truth's gonna evolve over time. Mm-hmm. And it's not even the words I say. It's the embodiment that I am being authentic and genuine in my expression.
[00:28:31] Rae: So here's the question. How did you heal through that and move through that? I know you're working through it on a daily basis. I'm sure part of it's gotten easier as you're more, you recognize it. You recognize where it's showing up, you know, or maybe it's a little less uncomfortable sitting in the energy, right, and you just kind of move through it.
[00:28:50] Rae: But what are some things that you did to really empower yourself through that?
[00:28:54] Renata: Well, sometimes it would, I would just be in complete situations where I ha I had to speak the truth. Like it was just like [00:29:00] the, it, I would literally manifest I the uncomfortable conversation that needed to be had. Mm-hmm. That needed to, to be had.
[00:29:07] Renata: Um, I took a lo, like I did a lot of coaching, did a lot of healing work. Like I basically have a, I don't even wanna know how much money I put into that, but I chose to. Yeah. You know? Right. And. When I learned about my astrology and that wound it, I was like, holy shit, this makes so much sense. Like cuz part of Kyron and Gemini too is like that chasing knowledge.
[00:29:29] Renata: I gotta learn more, I gotta know more information. I gotta, I gotta research all the things. I gotta, I gotta get every angle cuz that's Gemini. Gotta get every freaking angle. So if someone comes at me, I have, well I have this, I have this and I have this and have this. And I realized, I'm like, oh my God. I'm like, that's exhausting.
[00:29:44] Renata: Mm-hmm. So when I learned it in my chart, I was like, The, it was just like, treat it as an experiment. Why don't you just share your truth? Because you're doing the complete opposite. It's not very
[00:29:55] Rae: successful work. Yeah. Huh.
[00:29:58] Renata: You might be quote [00:30:00] unquote liked, but it's like, now I gotta show up a certain way to be, because the, but the moment I, I show who I am, people are gonna be confused or angry or whatever, where it's like, I'm actually making my life a lot harder by holding this in.
[00:30:14] Renata: Mm-hmm. Than speaking it out. And at least it's like, Yeah, I might, I might, my communication might not land good all the time, but I recognize, like, I sent an email out last week. I'm like, Ooh, I got, I got like, Ooh, like the dozen subs, unsubscribers, and I was like, I read back. I was like, yeah, maybe I could have toned that down a bit.
[00:30:31] Renata: But I was like, you live and learn. Yeah. So I still don't have it. Perfect. Mm-hmm. I still second guess and I. But I had to give myself permission to say, well, why am I not really speaking that one? Tools is like, why am I not saying that? What am I afraid of? Mm-hmm. I, um, why? I don't want people to think I look like an asshole.
[00:30:52] Renata: Like I don't, sorry if I don't allowed to swear on this. Oh no, you're good. I don't know. I don't want people to think that I'm a bad person, but I'm like, but I'm [00:31:00] lying now cause I just want you to like me. Yeah. And I just don't operate that
[00:31:03] Rae: way. Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely a conscious choice and I mean, I don't have Kyron and Gemini, but I know also a lot of people listening are going to like wonder about that because they feel like it's something also when we're, we have to have so much of our visibility out there in the online space.
[00:31:21] Rae: When you have a business this way and even just in daily life when it comes to expressing your needs, ex. Expressing who you are and feeling like you're being true to yourself and not just molding to the platter to fit in. You know, that is a very challenging experience for a lot of people, and I feel like when you get on the spiritual path, it's something that is going to invoke that within you, where you're just gonna feel that, wow, like subscribing to this need to fit in, and which which is.
[00:31:52] Rae: Kind of what we all want in, in like our core belonging, the sense to feel belonging. But it's almost like a [00:32:00] conundrum because you, what I've done in the past anyways is like done it with the wrong mold of people. Yeah. You know? And then I am, I am. Feeling even worse. I'm feeling like I'm not fitting in even more so than what I did before.
[00:32:13] Rae: And then I'm just feeling like I don't know myself or disconnected from myself versus when I just am very selective about the energy that I commit to and then starting to show up more and more just making a choice, whether it's just a small choice each day of like, how can I show up? More authentic and a little bit more vulnerable and sharing about who I am.
[00:32:34] Rae: That's really helped me a lot. And similar to what you're talking about, like what is the fear, you know, I mean, a big fear I go through is like, I'm gonna share this and everybody's gonna think, I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. Yeah. Yet, like I know. You know what I mean? It's like, how can I not know?
[00:32:49] Rae: Right. I, and I also know that I don't talk about anything that I don't feel comfortable like in knowing, you know? So it's such a, It's definitely something I feel like we battle with a
[00:32:59] Renata: lot. [00:33:00] Yeah. And like my Chiron, the position is in the 11th house. So the 11th house is Aquarius Energy. So I feel like the wounding of being the outsider.
[00:33:07] Renata: Mm-hmm. Yeah. And I've always been different, and I've always had this wound of feeling weird. Mm-hmm. And I recognize, I'm like, literally, part of my destiny is to speak my truth. It's like in the 11th house that rule, social media. And I, I was like, This is what I'm here to do. So the more I keep resisting that, and I'm not getting anywhere in life, I just, you know, you learn it from even business, like be who you are.
[00:33:25] Renata: But people are like, well, I don't even know who I am. So this was an access point where I was like, I'm gonna experiment with this. Mm-hmm. And the more I leaned into that uncomfortability, and it wasn't easy, like I would like, you know, you're shaking, you're running into the bathroom, you're like, oh. But I was just like, It's gonna get better because I understand too, psychology and physiology from my science and, and, and naturopathic background, that my brain is like, what are you doing?
[00:33:51] Renata: Mm-hmm. And I, I've just embraced the fact that it's okay that this feels comfortable because I am literally trying to train my nervous system to do something new.
[00:33:59] Rae: [00:34:00] Mm-hmm. Yeah, totally.
[00:34:02] Renata: And I find it personally for me, I find it really refreshing when people are vulnerable. Mm-hmm. So I was like, There's gonna be other people.
[00:34:10] Renata: I'm basically attracting who I wanna serve. Yeah. So the more honest and authentic and genuine I am, I'm also gonna lose people, or people are gonna unfollow me, but I'm like, I'm making my job easier. Yeah. Because I am literally showing people who I am and I'm, they're like, I don't like her. It's like, that's fine.
[00:34:26] Renata: Great. I'm not your person. Mm-hmm. And I don't look at that as a negative
[00:34:29] Rae: thing. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Cuz it starts to bring more alignment into your world and it's, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I am in the Aquarius thing, I, it's always interesting to me because people think, well, I have Aquarius on, I'm marketing in Aquarius, and then, um, Venus and Aquarius, you know, and then I have Saturn and Leo and my 11th house.
[00:34:48] Rae: So it does restrict that since of belonging even more. And it's definitely. What I don't feel like people realize is like one of the things we want so much is to feel belonged. Cuz we feel like Alien our [00:35:00] entire lives. But other Aquarius, I'll say some of my really most amazing friends and a lot of clients that come to me also have Mercury in Aquarius, which is hilarious because we sit there, we just, or it's like we're, we're on the same planet, you know?
[00:35:13] Rae: And it's so much fun. But it is one of those things that, like me doing this podcast was a very. I mean, I've had this idea for two years, Renata, but my, that Leo like and Saturn in that 11th house, just kind of like, but I love to speak and share and collaborate and, and, and do these things and share this wisdom.
[00:35:33] Rae: But it was so scary for me and I. It was like, why? Like, what is so scary about this? Really nothing. But it was, you know? Mm-hmm. And that was the wound to move through in that sentence. So it's, it's crazy. Yeah. How that can reflect so much of that to
[00:35:48] Renata: us. Yeah. And yeah, so I say to people like that, that wound will never, like Kyron will never go away, but it's always an invitation to lean more into like, are you, are you, we don't heal and grow, [00:36:00] like we're not gonna grow or evolve when things are, I said to a sil on a rose quartz platter, like, You learn and evolve and heal through the sometimes opposition through mm-hmm.
[00:36:10] Renata: Difficult moments. That's where you get resiliency. That's where you gain mastery. That's where, but it, but it's that willingness to, to take those experiences and say, okay, what did that teach me? And sometimes I get knocked on my ass. Mm-hmm. It's not always like sunshine
[00:36:29] Rae: and rainbows. Right? Yeah. So how do you cultivate this?
[00:36:35] Rae: In your daily life, even outside of business, working with these deeper fears of, you know, you're speaking up or speaking your truth and, and that fear of kyron or, I mean, I feel like Saturn is also where it can kind of restrict in our life as well. And I don't know what your thoughts are on that, but you know, or Yeah, and even.
[00:36:56] Rae: Outside of business and purpose, but like your purpose as like, you [00:37:00] as the individual who wakes up out of bed and brushes her teeth and goes about her day, you know? Hmm.
[00:37:07] Renata: Um, I think, well then it, then it calms down to like my human design aspect where I don't feel compelled to speak on, I don't, it's not like verbal diarrhea.
[00:37:18] Renata: I need to assure all my deep, dark secrets. It's kind of like I will tune in to say, And I'm very intuitive in my speaking, so I'll kind of sit with someone, I'm like, nah,
[00:37:29] Rae: it's not time to bring that up yet.
[00:37:30] Renata: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Like, we'll get to that, that they don't have context. Like it's just, it's sometimes I just trust, I lean into my, like when I'm working with a client and I'll be like, okay, perfect.
[00:37:40] Renata: This is a segue here where I just intuitively know not to go there. And so far that's never, never backfired on me. But that was something that I had to learn that like I have to trust that sense of like my. I can communicate with people where they're at. I know how to match where they're at. And that's very intuitive.
[00:37:58] Renata: Yeah. I trust that. [00:38:00] Mm-hmm. Also, I, I'm cognizant of, am I speaking because I'm trying to be right? Hmm. Yeah. So I, I can be really righteous. Yeah. I'm aware of that part of me. Um, and sometimes I'll say, and I'll catch myself, I'm like, nah, I'm just trying to be right here and I can own it. And I'll be like, I've worked on that blind spot and, um, so I'm really mindful before I speak.
[00:38:26] Renata: Like I'll ask too. I'll be like, if it's a friend, like do you want feedback or do you, are you just ranting here? Mm-hmm. Too.
[00:38:35] Rae: Yeah,
[00:38:37] Renata: there's, these are just ways that I kind of be cognizant of my communication and like I said, I've taken a lot of courses too on communication, cuz that's a wounding of mine. So I've, I've gotten a lot of tools under my belt, but it's been the willingness to get the tools, but also apply the tools in your life.
[00:38:50] Renata: And guess what? That, that requires really messy, vulnerable conversations. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And there's no bypassing
[00:38:57] Rae: that. Yeah. And [00:39:00] really also being so. Honest and truthful with yourself, you know? Yeah. Being able to look yourself in the mirror and be like, Yeah, you're kind of fucked up there. You know, like, it's like, yeah.
[00:39:11] Rae: And, and just own it. Just
[00:39:12] Renata: I own it. And before I would be more defensive, I was prone to being on the defense. Mm-hmm. And I was, I'm very aware that sometimes, like when people suggest things, I'll energetically, I, I, it's not even what they say. It's like their energy towards me and I can feel it. So sometimes I have to be like, okay, Renata.
[00:39:30] Renata: That that's their shit. Like it's a weird experience for me, like Right. It doesn't make sense when I explain to people, I'm like, I intuitively can feel the message or the intention. So sometimes I get me, I'm now I wanna like a attack. So I'm like, okay, now you're just getting triggered. Um, and so I'm hyper aware.
[00:39:48] Renata: Yeah, I'm hyper aware. And sometimes I'll say to people like, Part of my blind spot too, is when people say things to me, unsolicited feedback really pisses me off. Mm-hmm. So I'll be [00:40:00] like, don't tell me what to do. Yeah. I've gotten so much better at saying thank you so much, I appreciate it. I know they mean well.
[00:40:06] Renata: And sometimes they'll be like, I. I, I, I appreciate your excitement, but I, I just request that you do not, you do not give me feedback when I didn't ask.
[00:40:14] Rae: I love that. I appreciate your excitement, but shut the hell up. You know,
[00:40:19] Renata: it's like, cause I'm gonna be passive aggressive, so I'm, I'm brutally honest with that and I say that I, I really appreciate you, you come from a good place and, um, that's not what I'm requesting right now.
[00:40:30] Renata: Yeah. And, um, Or I'll just say, I'm not requesting that. I just need you to listen. Are you able, uh, can I request that from you? And if not, like I, I know who my audience is, right? So I'm also responsible. But my communication, who am I speaking to? If I'm gonna speak to someone who has grossly different views than I do?
[00:40:47] Renata: Mm-hmm. Well, And I'm asking for their feedback and they're gonna be giving me feedback. I, I, so people sometimes get angry because they're like, I said, I can't believe they said it. I'm like, but you gotta know your
[00:40:59] Rae: [00:41:00] audiences. Yeah, yeah. Totally. So it's
[00:41:03] Renata: so. So
[00:41:04] Rae: nuanced. So I hope that kind of was helpful, but Yeah, totally.
[00:41:09] Rae: It does, and I always, and like when you're saying that like, I'm, don't tell me what to do. It's like I get, I think it, that again is parts that you can look at in astrology because would you say that's more of like your, your fiery energy coming out, or where do you think that that comes from?
[00:41:31] Renata: Um, I think it comes through like my culture, my conditioning growing up. A little bit more of that. You can say, you sure you could say it's, I think that's, that's more from like situations that happened in my life where I felt maybe not in control. So now it's like, don't tell me what, like, so I I don't wanna say it's just my fire cuz that's not, that doesn't ring.
[00:41:55] Renata: It's not that it's incorrect. Um, but I can think of [00:42:00] situations where boundaries were violated. So it is a way to protect myself. It's like, don't tell me what to do. Mm-hmm.
[00:42:08] Rae: Yeah. Don't try to control
[00:42:10] Renata: me. Yeah, I think that's more my Pluto aspecting my son, my moon and my mercury. So that's the whole, like, don't you try to like, it's power struggle.
[00:42:18] Renata: Mm-hmm.
[00:42:19] Rae: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I, I feel like it's like you can, there's, there is a fine line and I'm glad you brought that up because yes, the conditioning of what we were brought up with and then our past and what we've experienced shaped so much of this, so, You know? Yeah. Somebody else. And when you're saying aspects, you're talking about like squares potentially, or oppositions, or are you talking squares and
[00:42:41] Renata: trying, so just like how the planets communicate, but Pluto's pretty intense.
[00:42:44] Renata: Mm-hmm. When Pluto hits, uh, important parts in your chart, like especially your sun, your, your moon, your ascendant, your midheaven, your descendant, your icy, or even your mercury, cuz that's your next inner planet. Mm-hmm. That can, that holds a lot of energy in the chart. [00:43:00] Especially when it hits a sun in your moon, in your mercury.
[00:43:02] Renata: So like that's more where that don't tell me what to do. Like, it's that power dynamic. Like don't, don't you dare try to like, it's, it's just trying to be in control. Yeah.
[00:43:11] Rae: Yeah. It's, I have it square Mars, and so for me it can be that. Similar power. Strong. Yeah. And it's, you know, Pluto's, conjunct my ascendants.
[00:43:21] Rae: So, yep, there you go. You know, it's like, it's gonna be intense at times and I've learned to work with it better, you know? But I definitely have a similar That's what I was asking cuz if you were just to connect with me. I'm not, I. Quite as maybe outspoken as you are, you know, and, and, but I am, I can be direct.
[00:43:39] Rae: I, I share direct truths and, you know, yeah. I've learned to say, are you ready for the truth or do you want right now, like, To be a coddle, like how, what do you want? You know? Or to be held. To be seen. Yeah. Or do you want the direct truth? And, and, you know, but I find most people that come into my world, because I'm, I do speak those direct [00:44:00] truths, it's like they're kind of similar.
[00:44:01] Rae: They're ready for it as well. And I like to hear it. I mean, I want the direct truth. So it's, it's helped me in that sense of like, here's where you're, you're. Kind of BSing yourself in ways, but it took me a long time to get to that point when I was young. No way. You
[00:44:13] Renata: know? Yeah. It took me, probably it was when I was maybe, how old was I?
[00:44:17] Renata: 27, 28. That's when I really started to learn about. Ironically was like the right where my Saturn return started. So like responsibility, self responsibility, being accountable. And up until that point I, I was like, damn, I didn't realize I'm a victim or I'm blaming this person. And it was in one of my first personal development courses.
[00:44:36] Renata: I, I actually saw taking responsibility as true power where a lot of people don't wanna take responsibility cuz guess what? It's on you now. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So I recognize a lot of the population likes to blame and shame. That's okay. Yeah, and I get that. So I get that I'm, I could be off-putting to some people who just wanna play the victim card.
[00:44:58] Renata: Yeah. I'm not saying there's not as such thing [00:45:00] as sacred rage or there's shit things people did that they deserve to be held accountable for, but it's like, okay, that happened. What can you do about it though? Mm-hmm.
[00:45:08] Rae: Yeah.
[00:45:09] Renata: So I got so much power from that. So I get that it's not for everybody, but I'm also not here to.
[00:45:17] Renata: I'm not gonna just tell you what you wanna hear, cuz I, I'm like, how's that really helping you? Mm-hmm.
[00:45:22] Rae: Yeah. So, switching gears a little bit. Yeah. Well, I do have to say I've had Mercury, so my marker is zero degrees Aquarius, so I've had Pluto Sentinel there and I, but I love it. I've been loving it because, you know, you could dive down the rabbit hole of like, yeah, how awful that might be.
[00:45:39] Rae: But to me, I, I work really well in intense energies like that, to be perfectly honest. So it's, for me, it's like, I feel like everything's coming out so clear and just being able to get a taste of like waking up to that and in that fifth house energy where it's at, it's been really fun for me. So it's like you talked, but it is when you were saying like Mercury, [00:46:00] the Pluto going through Mercury, it's like that direct truce and I feel like I've.
[00:46:04] Rae: Gotten so clear my words and become more direct in that, like the language and like who I am and stepping more into that role, which I'm excited to see where it goes. I just had to share that
[00:46:13] Renata: cuz it was fun. Yeah, no, totally. And I wanna point on this doesn't mean that I'm gonna be an asshole in my communication.
[00:46:18] Renata: So sometimes people think like, I'm just gonna cut you. It's like, no. I'm gonna be compassionate and empathetic and I'm gonna communicate in a way that I know it can hear you. Cuz I have that 10 years of experience clinically working with different people, different temperaments, and kind of knowing, kind of meeting people where they're at.
[00:46:35] Renata: I'm gonna still tell you the truth up until the point where I know you're gonna hear that. Yeah. And it's never gonna be from this disrespectful way. Right? It's gonna be like, look, I know maybe you don't wanna hear this, or, I know this isn't like the funnest way. Right? Or this isn't like, You know, gonna be super, like good times over here, however, this is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[00:46:59] Renata: Depending on the [00:47:00] situation. So when I say that, um, I think sometimes people are very off. People kind of get triggered when they hear that word. Mm-hmm. From my experience, because they think you gotta be mean and like offensive. And it's really weird cause I've done research, I've asked people. Mm-hmm. So I wanna make that clear.
[00:47:18] Renata: You can speak a truth and it doesn't ha, it can be in a very loving, honest way. Yeah. But when I think of truth, I think of love and I think of love is honesty. Love is not a
[00:47:26] Rae: lie. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's really very eloquently put. That is like truth for sure. Mm-hmm. And it is like a lot of people do get intimidated by that, but really it's just about being like, and sometimes I think even speaking the truth can really.
[00:47:42] Rae: Make somebody feel seen, you know? Mm-hmm. And some of these things, especially in the spiritual community, oh, you know, you shouldn't love money or you shouldn't be like money driven or money focused or any, you know, and it's like, well, I mean, yeah, there's, there's a balance in all of that. But for those of us, like, say me, I have a [00:48:00] Capricorn moon, like.
[00:48:01] Rae: I like to build things and make money for it, you know, like, I like to look at my bank account and I'm not gonna feel ashamed about that just because something that I, it brings me like a comfort of like, yes, I'm being taken care of, you know? And that's okay to feel that way too. It's just like when it goes the other way.
[00:48:18] Rae: But, um, how has this all. Because you, you're now moving into some human design work and starting to incorporate that, which for those of you not listening or for those listening that aren't familiar with that, um, cuz they haven't had anybody yet. Share about human design. So, and from what I've gathered for me, what's helped me with human design, I'm not an expert and still very baby, you know, steps and it's only been about me, um, when I'm looking into it, is that it's helped me understand more of the energy on a daily basis of like, What certain drives and certain experiences that I might experience on an, [00:49:00] on a subtle, energetic layer, you know, like the decision making or, yeah, a three six profile.
[00:49:05] Rae: Okay. So I, I really am here to learn through relationships and learn through my experiences and, and share through that and step into that role through that six line. But how are you taking that now, incorporating that with astrology, and then you're also helping people through business? Like empowering, you know, entrepreneurs through this.
[00:49:25] Renata: So because look, I, I get like, again, I'm o my thinking is usually, like I was talking about alignment like six, seven years ago and like that word wasn't, no one was talking, saying alignment and I'm not, I'm not saying I invented it cuz I didn't, there was other people talking about it, but it wasn't the as trendy it as it is now.
[00:49:44] Renata: Right? Right. When I was 20 something, naturopathic medicine was un like, it's not that it wasn't unheard of, but people were like, Fisher, they'll like, show me the scientific proof. And now everyone's like, oh my god, gut health. And I'm like, oh my God, I've been talking about that for like a decade. So I'm, [00:50:00] I'm always, well, part of me have, I've always been, I've seen things where like I'm, I'm the one who, I'm gonna set the trend.
[00:50:08] Renata: I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna follow the trend. Right. Right. And what I've noticed in business, through my own experience being in a decade now as an entrepreneur, I was like, you know, we're, there's this like formula, like, Sure. Do we all need a lead magnet to build an email list? Yes. Like, you know, are you gonna have to be consistent on social media?
[00:50:26] Renata: You can't just show up once a year and think and just make a post, and then everyone's gonna come like that. There's certain things that you can't escape. There's a strategy, but not all strategies are gonna work for you depending on. You know your strengths. Mm-hmm. Your, and then you use like, the, the astrology is kind of like the map of your life.
[00:50:43] Renata: Like, here's how, here's the lessons you're gonna learn. Here's what you're here to achieve. Here's your destiny, blah, blah, blah. But the human design is like exa again. How does that energy move through you? How do you best make decisions? How are you meant to respond or initiate or whatever to according to life?
[00:50:58] Renata: Like what, what, [00:51:00] what's your wealth potential? What's your wealth formula? What is your, how do you attract your clients? Like, So the two of them together when you malm both. Mm-hmm. Astrology is great. Cause you're like, okay, I'm a North Aries, but I'm like, yeah, but then this is how you know if something's right or not for you.
[00:51:15] Renata: So you wanna sit in with your, I call it your strategy and authority. So I'm a generator, so I meant to, I pull life to me, and as long as I'm doing stuff that lights me up, I'm not out there to go, like, initiate and make sh. It's not that I'm not gonna make things happen when I, when I hear as a regenerator, I'm meant to respond.
[00:51:34] Renata: Like if something, if someone's like, Hey, like when you're like, Hey, do you wanna do a podcast? I have to check in with my sacl authority. This is how I best make decisions to say my innate wisdom that says, do you have energy to give to this? Is this the appropriate use of your energy? Because as a generator, we generate energy.
[00:51:48] Renata: When we're in alignment, we are like magnetic. Yeah. So as long as I'm doing shit that I love, I pull people. To me, if you go on my website, I don't have any coaching thing. I've been coaching people for five years. I don't have a coaching [00:52:00] page. Mm-hmm. Literally people, cause they're like, do you do like coaching and stuff?
[00:52:04] Renata: Mm-hmm. And as a generator, I just bring, I bring the stuff to me and then I get to, I tune into my secret response that helps make decisions. It's a very yes or no, it's a uhha or Uhuh, it's a expansion or contraction. And then I say, yeah, I wanna do that. Or no. Like, thank you for the opportunity. It's not, it's just like, uh uh, I, I can't commit to that right now.
[00:52:23] Renata: Right, right. So yes, I'm, I understand that astrology, but then I now how know how to work with my energy in a day-to-day basis. Mm-hmm. I know how to best make decisions according to my design. Mm-hmm. Because a lot of times people are making decisions logically, which are not meant to. Mm-hmm. I can just as justify the shit a as to why something's a good business move or not, but my SAC authority is like mm-hmm.
[00:52:45] Renata: And if it doesn't always make sense. Yeah.
[00:52:48] Rae: Yeah, that's, I love that you shared it like that because for me that was a game changer cuz I'm also a generator's sacred authority. And when I started to really look at like, does this and, and, and you know, you're, [00:53:00] there's strategies that might be more like the common thing or the hip thing right now.
[00:53:04] Rae: And, and one of the things that never jived well for me were these really long launches and like sure for people that, you know, can sit in that energy and do that, that's great. But for me, I just was like, It seems so long, like it's just like, and exhausting. And to go against that, because that's something that people talk about so much, felt like I didn't know what I was talking about.
[00:53:31] Rae: You know, and that's how I would internalize is like, well, you don't, you don't know. You must not know because that doesn't feel right to you. So you, you must be doing something wrong. And then when I stood back and learned, okay, well actually that just doesn't freaking jive with you. And it just doesn't it, it just doesn't.
[00:53:47] Rae: Yeah. And it doesn't mean it's wrong. It doesn't mean that it, you are wrong. It just means that's not for you. And when I think about like a little quicker moving things, that's like, Ooh, okay, I can get into that. Because I get [00:54:00] inspired, I get lit up, and then I'm like ready to just share and it comes out much easier versus like trying to draw out calculated emails and the right things to say and doing all that.
[00:54:11] Rae: It just, it's, it's like, Just
[00:54:14] Renata: drains me. Yeah. Cause I see to people, it doesn't matter how good your copy is, it doesn't matter how pretty your pictures is, if you're doing it from a forced place, I don't care what design you are, what authority you are, it's not gonna land for people. Mm-hmm. So this is where I teach the entrepreneurs to tap into, okay, well why are you on TikTok when you hate TikTok?
[00:54:32] Renata: Like, or why are you, why are you what offering? You have 3 35 ideas. Let's filter through and use your design. Use your energy, use your design to make that decision on what to proceed and what to move forward with. Yeah. Not what you think you should, what's gonna make you money or blah, blah, blah. It's like, no, because that is where you're lit up by, that's where you go.
[00:54:51] Renata: Mm-hmm. Or I've done the most counter tube shit in my business and that's when literally things escalated. And I was like, there is something to this. Yeah. And I, first, the [00:55:00] way I, I worked, I first experimented it since 2020. 2020. And then finally 6, 6, 7 months ago I started saying, okay, I, I, now, I took a course on it and everything and I was like, I wanna now combine the two to teach you.
[00:55:12] Renata: Mm-hmm. Because I've now experimented with for three years. Right. And this
[00:55:17] Rae: shit tracks. Yeah. And that, I love that you just stated that I've experimented with this. I have worked it into my own life and like, you know that this works for you and how it works for you. And not to discount anybody that you know might be out there that's done it opposite ways.
[00:55:36] Rae: But I feel that sometimes people read a book or you know, and they're like, oh, I'm gonna start teaching this and sharing this, and they really don't. Experiment with it or bring it into their lives and really work with the energy that then that creates a misalignment too of like, okay, are you really living the talk that you're talking, that you walk people through?
[00:55:56] Rae: Have you really experimented with this in your own life? Do you [00:56:00] truly understand how this works? And like a very like broad. You know, for everybody because the people that are gonna be coming to you are gonna have lots of different, you know, energy and types and, and ways of operating in the world. And that that's, it's kind of like a pet peeve of mine.
[00:56:17] Rae: That's something that I just feel that there's a lot of people that do hop into things very quickly, not realizing the responsibility of energy that you hold in this space and that. Yeah, that one that won't get me.
[00:56:29] Renata: Yeah. I, I, I I'm the same. And, but then there's a fine line where it's like, you gotta start somewhere.
[00:56:34] Renata: And I understand you're gonna get better with time. Like your mastery will take your lifetime to do so. I can respect that. I, I, again, know I tune in with my serial authority and I, I know I'm gonna, I know what's next year. I'm gonna be creating a business mastermind with people and blending this soul with this strategy, but I'm like, I'm not there yet.
[00:56:53] Renata: Mm-hmm. Same with astrology. I knew in 2020, I'm like, I'm gonna teach this. It's not time yet. Mm-hmm. But I respect that where a lot of [00:57:00] people will force things. Okay, I gotta make it happen, I gotta do this now. And it's like, but if it does, it's not time. It's not time. Mm-hmm. And there's a distinction with that.
[00:57:07] Renata: There's a not, it's not time cuz you're chicken shit and you're afraid, but then there's not time to respect that. Like the embodiment is maybe not there yet. It's not time. Yes. You got the idea. But that might take seven years to actually get to. Yeah. Yeah. That's a, there's, there's distinctions between the two that, and these are the levels that I'd like to teach entrepreneurs too.
[00:57:24] Renata: Like, yeah, I know you had that idea, but sometimes you need to go through some experiences first, and some of you are, maybe it's just a fear, that's why you're not initiating. So there's distinctions between the two. But I get it like, I just feel like once you kind of go through it, you don't have to know everything about everything.
[00:57:40] Renata: Cause that's impossible. Right. Right. But I, I'm definitely one, integrity is a big thing. Mm-hmm. I'm not saying I know everything about everything. So people will be like, what's this? I'm like, that's just not part of my process. I can't answer that question. I just, that's not how I serve and I'm okay with that.
[00:57:54] Renata: Mm-hmm. Yeah. But there is this just bec if [00:58:00] I'm regurgitating something off the internet versus actually experiencing an embodiment, it's gonna, it's gonna land very different.
[00:58:06] Rae: Yeah, yeah, totally. Like I look at the me not launching the podcast, that was fear. Yeah, it wasn't, it was just me not believing in myself.
[00:58:15] Rae: Me not thinking I knew enough or could share enough yet, but it was, you know, or could talk enough. My God, I got Mark hearing queries. I can talk, you know, so it's like, like all of these things, you know, and, but there was also an embodiment piece that I had to. Embody the belief in myself and yeah, move through that as well.
[00:58:35] Rae: So it's like, if I would've done it too soon, it just wouldn't have landed even. It wouldn't, even though, like I could push through the fear, but it wouldn't have landed, you know? And probably I'd reached out to people and not get the response or whatever, you know, and then that would've done the very thing that I was the most afraid of, reaffirmed that rejection and, and confirm that.
[00:58:53] Rae: And then it's like, nope, okay. Done. You know, and instead of moving forward,
[00:58:56] Renata: so, yeah. And sometimes there's like multiple things going on. [00:59:00] Like, it's like totally. There's multiple things going on, so yeah. Life's wilded. Um, yeah.
[00:59:07] Rae: Yeah. Yeah, I mean I did have, you know, my dad die in that time and moved across the country.
[00:59:11] Rae: I mean, yeah. And that's another lesson of like not putting so much on your plate and the pressure of knowing. Yeah, now's just not the time. But I will do that and I can still be here and feel satisfied with my experience knowing that this is enough for right now. But yes, and I will get to do that Mastermind next year, or if it's not, then.
[00:59:32] Rae: I'll be closer to it. I know it's going to happen because it's something I want deeply inside of me, so I know I'll take those steps to get there, so. Mm-hmm. So what is going on in your world? Where do you wanna invite people in?
[00:59:44] Renata: Um, well, I think the, the easiest place to connect is my Instagram or TikTok, where you'll laugh.
[00:59:49] Renata: Yeah. Bingey, cosmic you'll binge and laugh. Yeah. It's, it's binge-worthy, cosmic wisdom you didn't even know you needed. Literally. Yeah. Um. Not [01:00:00] my words. Some everyone else's. And yeah, the ways that you, you know, where if you wanna explore deeper, my, I have a free newsletter, cosmic, um, cosmic, uh, insights newsletter where I share kind of what's going on astrologically for free.
[01:00:15] Renata: Cuz it can be kind, sometimes really overwhelming, navigating this little experience and you don't have to do it alone. And what's coming up for me is my sole, uh, astrology level one course. And then again, I'm, I'm really e g Ming out and loving those two hour business alignment strategy sessions, combining the human design and astrology to help people kind of service the world the way that they're designed to without the burnout, the guilt and the
[01:00:38] Rae: shame.
[01:00:39] Rae: Yeah. What is your soul, your astrology level one, what is that for?
[01:00:45] Renata: Like, who would that be? So it's, it's, it's gonna be a 10 week, it's, I'm still finalizing, you know, It's like the pre, pre-launch. Mm-hmm. Um, it's gonna be a 10 week, uh, program where I help you decode your chart so you can [01:01:00] not only remember who you are and live out, you know, your legacy, but you can take this if you're an entrepreneur, you're a coach, you're a healer, whatever, and help other people do the same.
[01:01:10] Renata: Mm-hmm. Okay. So it's helping you better understand your purpose, but also using this cosmic wisdom to help others if you so choose to do
[01:01:16] Rae: so. Okay, that sounds awesome. And to be in your circle for 10 weeks would be loads of fun, and I'm sure it's gonna be fantastic. So if you guys hop over to her Instagram page and she is just go with an open mind and take nothing personal.
[01:01:33] Rae: And that's kind of the fun beauty of it. Like I remember it's like, and, and even just recently you're sharing like, hey, It's like, I don't think you said these exact words, but it was kind of like, you're not fucked up because of Mercury going retrograde. It's like, you know, it's just kind of this whole thing, like, stop blaming the planets for every catastrophic or every, you know, bad thought or bad thing that happens.
[01:01:57] Rae: Like, you know, this is life and sometimes it's just [01:02:00] your shit you gotta work through, you know, and just moving through it. But, um, and I, I, I have to, Specifically share this because it was about a year and a half ago, it was a guy that I was dating and I sent him something. He was a, a Leo and he had an S moon and um, I sent him, I think he was Leo, Leo Rising.
[01:02:19] Rae: Yeah. Leo sent Leo rising in Aria's Moon and it Yeah. Yeah. It's like, so I, I sent him one of the things just kind of for fun, he is like, I, that just is so mean. I am not like that at all. And I'm like, okay. It's like so funny. So it's not gonna be for just everybody, but for those of you that just have a lightheart, a lighthearted approach and want a lighthearted approach to all of this, because this whole transformational journey, the healing journey can be heavy and I think it's so important to.
[01:02:52] Rae: Have somebody like Renata in this role that sprinkles her direct, you know, language and also with love and compassion, [01:03:00] and she is direct speaking, but I've personally been in some of her containers when you were doing some energy circles and, and doing your reiki and some of your moon circles, and she's so supportive and so loving.
[01:03:12] Rae: So, you know, and she does hold space so well. So, um, I encourage you guys all to go check her out and get to know her more. Thank you so much for being on here. This was so much fun. And, um, yeah, you're, you're so like knowledgeable and bright and such a gift to the world. Thank
[01:03:30] Renata: you for having me.
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