Best & worst of 2024 & my 2025 predictions

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Welcome to Designing Success from Study to Studio. I'm your host, Rhiannon Lee, founder of the Oleandra Finch Design Studio. I've lived the transformation from study to studio and then stripped it bare and wrote down the framework so you don't have to overthink it. In this podcast, you can expect real talk with industry friends, community, connection, and actionable tips to help you conquer whatever's holding you back. Now let's get designing your own success.

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Surprise! I know you didn't think you'd hear from me until February but I am recording this cheeky bonus episode on New Year's Eve. It's about 1. 30 in the afternoon and as soon as I finish recording it I am going to put it up, schedule it for four o'clock. I'm not going to edit it. I want to get into the pool with my kids. So in the spirit and nature of the conversation I'm about to have and predictions I have for 2025, this is keeping it real, keeping it raw. I will go back to editing when the podcast returns in February and tidy it up a little bit, but for today, I just want to run through the best and worst of 2024 things that I'm predicting for 2025 and just have a like, yeah, a little bit of a New Year's reflection piece. I won't go into too much for 2024 because there's a whole podcast episode that was the last episode of the season that really recapped the year, I feel. So, uh, without further ado, here is my best for 2024. Witnessing students in the framework to start to see their hard work turn into real life businesses. Like when they join, they're a little bit de lulu and they're like, this is wild. I don't know if this is going to work or I don't know if I've got the right grit. I don't know if I know how to market myself, if I can run a sustainable business and getting to the end of 2024 and I've got a big cohort that sort of started around September, October, and they're really starting to get into the juicy stuff. So that's been so exciting to witness. And I've also run my beta round of the framework collective, which is a group of six. It's very small. It's all about scaling. And I'm seeing in just four months, those girls, all of them doing things like hiring staff, opening a street front studio. They all have standard operating procedure libraries, like full libraries. 120 processes mapped out, ready to share with staff and things. We've been doing some really great tidy up of the back end of their businesses and that's been really, really exciting. So it's definitely made it to my best list. This next one is so weird and it really, you know, when it goes to showing your personality, I think it says a lot about me. Um, my denim jumpsuit that I bought, which is It's not even like anything fancy, but being that I'm only five foot tall, I didn't have to get it taken up and it gives Charlene from Neighbors energy like Kylie Minogue in the 80s. It's a full denim jumpsuit. I look like I am a 19 year old. You know, in the 80s mechanic and I am obsessed with it every time I wear it. I'm like, this is the best outfit of 2024. So keep your eyes peeled on Insta stories and see if you spot it. The next best one would be challenging myself to get to Know how to use AI exactly how I want it so that it gets like proper outputs and to build custom GPTs, uh, custom GPTs for my clients. So all my coaching clients, I'm now building out these GPTs for them, but it's just made me so happy to feel that I am in my early forties and I don't feel like I've been left behind. I absolutely am in my robot girl era. I get it. I use it. I have done for Literally is. Um, and I'm just surprised even myself. I think I sort of thought, Oh yeah, like obviously I had Jasper before chat to PT and I dabbled a little bit, but throwing myself all in and leaning into learning and being like an early adopter and going and doing extra courses myself and upscaling so that I can write the coding in the background and I can do different things has been something that I'm really proud of in 2024. I challenged myself. There were times that It got really frustrating. I knew what I wanted, but I didn't know how to do it. I learned how to do all kinds of mapping and programming. Um, and yeah, it was just something that I am very proud of. And last week, just before we broke up for the year, I actually built a custom GPT for a long term coaching, private coaching client of mine who is a property stylist. And the GPT that we built her draws all of its information from her individual. Contracts terms and conditions so that when a real estate agent reaches out to her and she's on the road She's installing a property and says hey, can we get an extension the email assistant that I built her can quickly say Yep, the terms on the extension is X amount for this many days This is the availability like it's able to do everything based on her specific contract terms Terms and I reckon it's going to save her minimum three hours a day, like just pulling over on the side of the road and riding back and, and remembering, you know, how you have to go back to your terms and conditions sometimes. Cause you're like, Oh, what did I say? It cost for an extra edit or whatnot. So all of that has gone for her. Um, and I can build them for anyone that's working with me in 2025 in a private coaching capacity. So that's made me really excited. And yeah, really proud that I've. Just sunk my teeth in and I feel like I absolutely know what's going on. I ran the workshop with AI and every single day I'm up to date and keeping abreast of what's new, what it means, what it can do, and it's wild how quickly things are evolving and how many new things are on the market even just since I've been on a break for a week. The next best would be keeping my Friday emails with all of my business tips. with all of my business tips going and never missing one. So actually getting it out. Actually, I did think I missed one or two throughout the course of the year, but I think that's a pretty good strike rate. And if I missed a Friday, I sent out a random Tuesday or I tested what it would do on a Thursday or a Monday. So it definitely went out weekly. My next best from 2024 would be sitting my children down on Christmas morning and being able to tell them that we're taking a big family holiday, all five of us going to Canada for six or seven weeks and next Christmas to spend it with my family. And knowing that I've built a business that will allow me to switch off for seven weeks, that will allow me to have income coming in over that time. And that will support me being able to spend a ton of money on a holiday like that. That is not something that was possible in the first two or three years of my business. There is just no way that we would have been able to squirrel aside extra income for a seven week trip to Canada at Christmas time. My gosh. So it really made me proud and happy that that's possible. That's a place that we've been in, or that we find ourselves in. And I understand that this drips of privilege and I just want everyone to know how grateful I am for it. We have worked really hard and it just made me so happy and was one of my best moments of 2024. Okay, I'm going to round out with my absolute favorite, the very best thing that happened in 2024. I actually properly created Work Life Balance. I've been chasing it since I started my business. Because it's taken seven years. A lot of mistakes, all the tears, all the people pleasing, all the boundaries. I finally, actually, I don't even need to work an 8 hour day to run my business. What I've been able to create with AI has meant that next year, I still have Wednesdays with Marley, he's going off to kinder, I don't even have to put in 8 hours on the 4 days a week that I work in order to make my business. Business profitable and to make it the process is really tight and it run like a well oiled machine It's just rinse and repeat now and I know exactly what i'm doing and I finally feel like I don't have guilt if I don't reply to an email out of hours And I don't feel like I need to log in on a saturday morning and I just feel so much Relief and no pressure. And I know I've done the hard yards and I know I've missed out on just snuggles on the couch with my teeny tiny babies. And it does make me have lots of regrets. If I knew AI was just going to swoop on in and fix everything, I might not have struggled so hard, but it was just something that I wanted to reflect and celebrate that 2024 has been the year that I have felt properly. Alliant, balanced, all those keywords, just the things that you write as your word of the year. I achieved them this year and I couldn't have done it without AI and I couldn't have done it without my sort of custom AI assistance, but I have done it and I'm so happy and excited for what 2025 looks like because I just don't have to show up as much and I will be able to get twice as much done. All right, let's not dwell on the worst, but I'm just going to quickly hit you up with my three worst things of 2025. Number one, my health. I spoke about it on the past. I spoke about it on the podcast, but I had an iron level of three for about four months of 2024. And I had to let down a couple of student calls. I think I only missed one. I had to skip a few podcast episodes. There were times I just could not get out of bed. Like I did an in home consult with a client and it was Only 90 minutes of that day that I wasn't in bed. I just had obviously zero energy with an iron level of three and it really shook me because when you are a solo entrepreneur as we know it's all up to you and I was so I guess it really helped me to take stock and to sit back and to say, what do I really need to be present for? What can I outsource? What does excellent look like? What am I wasting time with? And actually being sick did help me create better habits because I could just see, like, not sweat the small stuff and see there was so much I was doing in my business that I was like, do you know what? If I can only do three tasks this day, today, that's not one of them. And so I just dropped it, or I designed an AI assistant to out. I just, yeah, it created a lot of space in my business. So it was the worst, but what is Charles Dickens say? It was the best of times. It was the worst of times. So health wise. I'm glad I'm feeling better. I'm glad it wasn't anything serious, but it really did knock me for a six in 2024. The second thing that probably I won't go into the next two things. I'm not going to go into. And there's a lot of information out there, but we struggled a lot privately with managing and autism at our house. We have spoken about it. We still have no support or funding. Um, it's been twelve months of that and almost nine years as well as struggling to parent a neurodiverse child. And I've never felt more underqualified and raw and open and, um Just overwhelmed in my entire life. Please check on your friends parenting neurodiverse kids. They're barely surviving some days. We definitely need a hug. So that was something that was probably the worst in this year as I feel that it could have been managed so much better and I hope that there is more support in our future because it's taken a lot a big toll on us as a family and just, um, yeah, it's just really hard. And the last one, I again, won't go into too much, but the, in the back end of the year, we saw some real ugliness in the Australian interior design mentor space, uh, knowing that an individual is back and offering to teach another round of new designers the same underhanded practices is a pretty hard pill to swallow. Just unsubscribe for that for all of 24 and well into 2025. Okay, so that brings me to predictions. What do I think is going to happen? I send out an email today. If you're not on the email list, see if you can, reach out to me in my DMs and I'll just send you a link to read it. It is a really, really long and full on prediction about where I think business is going and what AI really will look like next year. And so if you're interested in that sort of, angle,, just come and see me over at oleander underscore and underscore Finch, and I'll send you the direct link. Anyway. My 2025 predictions. Flexing income numbers and shouting about what you know doesn't work anymore. Everyone can see through you. It was so damaged by that awfulness that went on in the coaching world of just six figures in six weeks. And I can take you to seven figure multi seven figure businesses. When these are people that barely run their own business, sometimes like you really have to do your due diligence and get on an alignment call with this coach or mentor that you want to work with and put them through the ringer, ask them like it's an interview. Where did you get all this business skill? Where did you get your, your skills? Mentoring why do you think you're a good mentor? What is your like get their resume? What is your professional? Experience and past look like who were you employed by at what level did you leave? Like if you ask questions, I can think of at least three examples right now Whose businesses do really well, but they can't deliver the goods and the reason is they're all about marketing They do a good job Great job at marketing, but once you get in, they don't have the grit and sustenance and they can't actually help you through the break the glass ceiling. They can't do that. They haven't done it themselves in their businesses and therefore they can't really show you the way. So top tip, if you are wondering about getting some help in the new year, go and grill whoever it is you're thinking of working with. The second prediction is we are moving well away from that knowledge, three ways to do this, five things you should stop doing immediately, and into connection, proof of change or transformation, um, you know, real community and connection because we're all terrified of AI and how robotic it is. So being human is 2025 superpower. You have to humanize your brand. It's never been more important. People are worried that critical thinking is over. We're just going to begin to doubt everything in a world where images can be AI information could be AI videos can be AI, it's just going to make it more and more important to leave a spelling mistake in show up on your stories and just be a super dork, like just do it. Just don't worry about like. What people on the internet think does not matter anymore. It shouldn't have mattered in the first place, but it's so gone. It's out. Let's not think about them. I think that I said AI will be everywhere. I think it will be literally everywhere. Some of you will truly make the effort to learn how to train it, to prompt it, to give correct context, get amazing outputs. Everyone else will just continue to use the U. S. spelling with the Z and the cheesy things like, and the kicker. Unleash, unlock, treasure trove, dive into, you will be forced to pick your lane in 2025. So please choose to lean in and learn. It's here to stay. And when we use it properly, we can do incredible things. If there's any way I can support you through that in 2025, reach out whatever you need. I will definitely run a few webinars, a few other sessions where I can help because the ones that I ran in the back end of 2024, I could see literal jaw dropping moments and fist pumps at like, Oh my God, I get my life back. Like, this is amazing. If you see what we can do on a day to day basis in that space, you would not fight it so hard. Alright, the other prediction, I think, is that we're going to see a normalization of hybrid work locations and work hours. That's Already started post COVID, but I think it will continue. Let's design our own damn work day. Why do we have to work when someone says we have to work 9 till 5 or whatever? That suits their lifestyle. I have, you know, maybe I have kids that nap in the middle of the day. Work then, and then maybe I'm a really, I'm a night out and then finish off late at night. And the rest of the time, spend it with your babies. You can design your own damn work day. And I'm so happy to help you do that again, um, through things that I do in the memberships and mentorships. There's like things where we really work on that because designing success is the name of this podcast. Design your own success. I'm such a big believer in it. Don't look either way. Just. Stay in your lane, do your thing and do the thing that works for you. Okay. I also think inside of the interiors themselves, we're going to see like unapologetic curation of the insides of our houses that properly reflect, reflect the people who live there, where you've traveled to global design. I think we're going to move away from people just implementing what they've seen on Pinterest and bringing you Pinterest boards and going, I like these three things. Can I have exactly that? But can I pay you to say that you designed it? And then I can just copy, um, which I hate, which everyone hates. So I think we're going to really start seeing quirky interiors and that doesn't have to be bold and colorful. I think designers will seek out more reuse, recycle, reupholster, like more sustainable practices for all sorts of things like I'm going to be talking about building materials, actual furniture, I just think people are going to get more clever in the interior design space because they want to stand out for something AI can't think of because we are obviously, we're not going to be replaced, you should see how badly AI generates interior design like I'll use it to elevate my pitches. I use it to make my concept development, like my concept packs look amazing. And I can take a 2d mood board and build the room in 3d and 3 seconds so they can see it, but it's nothing like it'll look when I actually am involved in the project management and I execute it because it's so easy. Totally different. Um, so don't be afraid of it. Okay. That's kind of it for my predictions. I'll love to come back to this next year and just see if I was right or not. Um, I have a feeling, you know, obviously I've made the predictions public. I have a feeling a lot of them will be like that. And so now I'm just going to run through my ins and outs of 2025. I posted this to Instagram this morning. You can check it out there over at oleander underscore and underscore finch. But now I'm going to run you through what's in for me and what's out. So firstly in 2024, I'm embracing my robot girl era. I want to be known as the robot girl. I want to do all the robot things and help you do all the robot things so that you can find really quick ways to understand and implement what I've been slowly learning and failing and getting back up and doing again over the last two years. Building genuine online friendships with other designers. No more like random one word adjectives like gorgeous and I just want to actually get in there and chat to people. Doing random happy dances when client payment hits. We're a small business, you should celebrate every single dollar that comes in because you work Bloody hard for it. Wearing band t shirts in client meetings. I want to rock up at your house in my Flatewood Mac t shirt and blazer because, hey, I've got the blazer. It's kind of profesh. But I also am very much someone who wants to feel comfortable and not be too overpolished. The I get to mindset is in for me. So instead of I have to, it's always like I get to trying to think in, I'm a very like almost, you I'm a very, very positive person, so I don't struggle with this too much, but I like to make sure that I reference it so that I continue to feel like that all of the time. Reading, uh, early morning AI team briefs, getting my virtual boardroom together and then telling them everything I need to do for the day and letting them get to work while I do something else. That is big for me. In, big time in. Uh, sending voice notes. Instead of stiff emails, if you have been ever in contact with me, you'll know, I'll send you a little video. I went to welcome you into my community. I will get on the voice notes. I will have a chat to you. I built so many beautiful relationships that way using social media and other things just by using my voice because it builds such rapport. And it's just, it's so much easier to just say what I mean, instead of having like type it out and it'd be misconstrued or look really. stiff and unfriendly. I just prefer to talk. All right. More courses, upscaling, real mentorship, no gatekeeping, real sharing. All of that's in for me. It's not new, but it's staying. I love it. Laughing at my own jokes on Instagram stories. Just be you. It's fine. That's it. Mediterranean beach vibes year round instead of corporate desk, serious face. Um, yeah, we're building a lifestyle that allows all this additional freedom with people. I'm going to go out on the deck in my studio here, my James Hardy deck, that's out the front, and literally just sunbake for half an hour. I don't really, I said that because of Mediterranean beach vibes and then I was like, I hate the sun and skin cancer. Oh my God, you can't put that on the podcast. This is the raw unfiltered one. I won't do that. But I might go out and have a cheeky glass of Savvy B in the afternoon, um, and spend half an hour on my deck reading Instead,, in the shade, instead of working, why not? Setting up free creative space time in your calendar. So blocking out time to just do whatever you want to do. Go paint a picture, go for a walk, do anything. Don't be afraid of negative space in your calendar that no one else can book, but you don't need to do anything. I want to show up bare face, minimal makeup, messy hair for marketing Mondays. Don't feel like you need to wait till you have your hair appointment to show up and create a reel. Um, I want to slip hilarious. whatever you say into my stories and emails. I want to have a deep de lulu level belief in my business and what it can achieve. I feel like that's in every year, but just do it. Be like unapologetic aesthetics that reflect what secretly make you a super dog. Letting your coffee mug show your personality. And I did write in brackets, not sure what Shira says about me. I have He Man and Shira coffee mugs in the morning. Um, but you know what? It probably does show my personality. I'm an 80s kid. Skid I, yeah, I think that perfectly sums that up. Silly, messy, unfiltered. Behind the scenes French champagne toast. To celebrate your first or largest invoice to date, mapping out your future dream studio on a random Tuesday, asking your social media followers for quirky playlist recommendations, human to human brand vibe. Dog cameos, messy hair, real talk, I think you're getting the picture now. Snacking on fancy charcuterie boards during Zoom calls, guilt free. I think, you know, this is just all silly energy. Nothing, none of this will harm anyone else, but it will just make for more fun in my workday. And lastly for me, this is what is out in 2025 hiding from stepping into a niche. So if you're still out there going, Oh, look, I don't want to niche in yet because I don't want to miss any opportunities. I probably have a podcast episode or I'll do a public podcast episode on how much you don't lose everything else. And it's risk free to step into a niche. It's all benefits. It's only benefits fast fashion approaches to business software and subscriptions. Like shiny object syndrome is everywhere. You get a new thing and you're like, Oh, cool. Try it for a little while. It is so much better to spend the money, sit down with a coach, get intentional, targeted, tailored information that meets your needs. So you say your needs and then they bring you the software that's going to deliver that, learn it properly and don't look around. Okay, out. Refusing to have an opinion on trends or anything for fear of offending. So not wanting to show up and actually say what you think because you want to please everybody. Lazy boundaries and people pleasing. Similar thing but it's so out for 2025. Overthinking every post. It's social media, not surgery. Just post it. Again, what do they say? Like people on the internet don't matter. Don't worry about them. Minimizing your big wins so that you don't seem too much. I have seen this with at least three girls that I coach where they're like, Oh, but this person hasn't got there yet. So I don't want to say nope. Nope, nope, nope. We're not doing that. We never downplay what you've worked hard for. Letting imposter syndrome crush your creative spirit. Imposter syndrome tries to take the wheel all the time. You, welcome in the car, totally fine. You have the wheel. Never allowed to touch the wheel. Negative self talk. I'm not even going to go there. We don't do that. That's out. Calling beauty maintenance appointments, like getting your eyebrows waxed or whatnot, self care. I hate this so much. Like, why is it if I need to go and get a haircut, it's self care? If my husband needs to get a haircut, it's just something he's allowed to do solo without the kids on a Saturday morning and maybe take himself out for brunch as well because he needed a haircut every six weeks. Anyway, that stuff's not self care. It's just body maintenance. I just, I can't even. Self care looks very different to me. And I'm sick of it being called things that you were doing anyway, and then just labeled, labeling them self care. Uh, gatekeeping anything, out. Comparing yourself to any or every other designer online, out. Feeling guilty for blocking out your calendar for non studio days. So just taking a day, doing, working on the business, having a CEO day. I have one monthly. There's so important. No guilt that's out feeling obliged to say yes to every opportunity. Uh, the, if I had a dollar for every time I heard, I'm just going to lower the price a little bit because I really want this opportunity. What is meant for you will find its way to you. If you lose an opportunity, it just makes room for something else. Like just. Ah, I know it's so hard to do that one, but just don't say yes to everything. Be fiercely protective of your time and your calendar over communicating to clients at all hours out of fear or wanting to look professional, burn out anything that resembles overwhelm, burnout, pressure, or hustle again. There's a better way. So many people are doing it a better way. Just, I don't want to say that ever. I don't want anyone to say I'm under so much pressure. I've got so many things like, okay, we need to go back to basics and work out how to use the tools that exist to make sure you don't have that feeling. In 2025, uh, overly scripted webinars and robotic live streams, or actually let's put in the bin webinars like that exist purely just to, you know, Like 90 percent of the slides are about the offer, the sales pitch for the next 48 hours only. Like, cool. Use it to sell, obviously, because you're giving away, um, also free IP and you're helping people through to a solution. That's fine. I don't begrudge anyone from putting a slide or two in, but when it's 70 percent sales and 30 percent stuff and I walk away with one tip, but it wasted 45 minutes of my time. Uh, again, out, not here for it. Perfect. Instagram. Perfect Instagram grids in the bin. Underpricing yourself just to get the job. Bit like up above with the opportunity thing. Don't like it. Faux professionalism, being overly polished and never playful. Nope. Sharing anybody else's Pinterest image on your feed, whether it's inspirational or not, or not, I will die on this hill. This is out every single year. It's illegal. It's not your IP. It's not the way you grow an Instagram account or how you get followers. There's so many smarter, better ways. Constantly deferring to Google or I guess even Insta for business advice. That's great at a surface level, but please don't implement all of these strategies and tactics into your business unless they have been designed for your business. Between two private coaching clients. There's no two that are exactly the same, like the full Trello boards that I pulled together. They're so individualized because they're running completely different businesses. And so anyone who says that you can just go to Google and type in or even work with Chattopadhyay, or Chattopadhyay is pretty good at being like, I've got this problem. Like, let's workshop it a little bit, but you really need someone who knows your business intimately and who's making decisions based on that knowledge. Binge scrolling your competitors at 2am? No thank you. Letting strangers on the internet's opinions matter? Again, they don't matter. Overloading your schedule just to feel productive? Pretend, oh I hate this one. Pretending you're a large company in your copy? Who actually is we? You're not a big design firm with a team of 20. We know it's just you. So own it. Use I and you wherever you can. We is out. We don't have to look. like that anymore because what did I say about humanizing your content? Actually, it's so much more important to be yourself. Nobody's youer than you or whatever Dr. Seuss says. You are the youest you that ever you'd. So just do that. Toxic positivity? Out. But also probably guilty of that because I am a very positive person. So I'm embracing in 2025 showing up with a little bit more of that behind the scenes with a little bit more of the fact that, I am so not perfect and what happens in my business is so not perfect. I've had so many big flops. I've had launches where like two people have signed up and I've been horrified and I can do the work and look into them and know exactly why. And I know where I need to change and where I need to evolve and improve and I'm constantly searching to do that. But you know, I think sharing that is really, really important now. Assuming AI is hard or your quotation marks not good with computers, that just won't cut it. Like, let's get good, lean in, learn, ask for help, come see me anytime. And lastly, refusing to tag suppliers in your posts. Ouch. 2025 is the time to realize that that's actually a massive opportunity for them to share your work for other people to find you. Um, yeah, I think there's always been that argument of like, Oh, my client paid for all of this source, but you're not sending them the shopping list. You're not sending them the sources. You can be really clever with it, but it really helps to promote your trade partners that you work with and for them to be able to in turn promote you and your business. As I say, this is the raw and unedited version so that you're going to hear it a little bit differently than you normally would coming where I would spend a little bit of time actually tidying out the ums and ahs and gaps and all sorts of little things that happen in the podcast studio. I hope that you've enjoyed it. I'd love to know if you agree with me and what's going What's out, what went well last year, what's ahead for 2025. I'd love to hear your hot take and predictions. You can contact me via Insta DMs, or even just when you're listening to this at the very top, there is a button that says, text me and tell me what you think. Just drop me a line. Let me know if you enjoyed this kind of content because I can do it again next year. That's it from me. I just want to say a huge thank you to every single designer or small business owner that let me get a front seat into their business this year. It's no joke the amount of intimate details that people share with me. Commercially sensitive financial information, they share their deepest mindset blockers, what they're struggling with. I have had multiple group coaching calls this year where Girls have been in tears. We get raw, we get real. And I hope that they've felt supported, but I've definitely felt very blessed that they have felt safe enough in that environment to share those concerns with me and let me in to help them. To The private coaching clients that are in my pocket all day, every day. Some of whom I worked with, you know, in six month, 12 month capacity some of whom I'm working with for the third year in a row quarterly and so on. I just can't tell you how much I value, not just your support. I know you listen. I know you, um, show up for my brand, but also your friendship. And so if anybody is looking for that sort of high touch Support and coaching for 2025 it's the bookings for coaching are coming in thick and fast because this is the time of year where people lock in their whole 12 months as in whether we do a quarterly approach or they see me once a month or once every three months. Once, twice a year, whatever that is, people generally book it in January and it is filling up fast. So please come and see me if it's something that you even just want to see the flyer and get some pricing and get some information about what could be available for you next year. I am making some really scary changes to my business next year. I will share them with you in February when I return to the podcast. I have Um, a lot of time sketched away to really drill down and map out what will make me happy. What do I need to do? What do I want my business to look like? And it's going to look very different to how it did the last two years. Um, so yeah, something to look forward to. I wish you all a really. Beautiful, safe holiday. I hope you're having a wonderful New Year's Eve and I'm off to have a swim with my kids in our backyard pool and just enjoy some more family time. So, bye for now. See you next year.

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