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Speaker 3: 0:26

Welcome to Designing Success from Study to Studio. I'm your host Rhiannon Lee, founder of the Oleander and Finch Design Studio. I've lived the transformation from study to studio and then stripped it bare and wrote down the framework so you don't have to overthink it. In this podcast, you could expect real talk with industry friends, community connection, and actionable tips to help you conquer whatever's holding you back. Now, let's get designing your own success.

Speaker 4: 0:50

Before we get into today's juicy episode, I wanted to share a testimonial with you. I worked with Lisa just last month, and I don't always, probably only three times a year do I take on private coaching clients that are entering the industry purely because it's lots of work and we do it so well inside of the group program, in the framework. So doing that one-on-one when we are doing one to many, it. It's a lot, but I absolutely love it, and that is why I still do a few of them, and I don't get to necessarily give a testimonial a shout out to Lisa, but along with everybody who shared these beautiful words that I can share on the podcast, I thank you all for sending them in and if we've ever worked together, please do feel free to drop me a quick voice memo in or dm. I would absolutely love to hear from you, but for now, let's have a listen to.

Speaker 6: 1:40

So I just finished up the Ceiling Smash private coaching program with Rhiannon from Oleander and Finch, and it was an amazing investment. I'm so glad I did it. Prior to working with her, I feel like I'd come a big part of the way to launching my business myself, but I was going around in circles with different things and also recognized that in my previous. Corporate career. I did really well with having a great mentor and some structure and some direction, and she certainly gave me that

Speaker 5: 2:14

we started with a intensive coaching session and then I had two weeks of foxer support with her back and forward to help me implement a lot of the tasks and actions that had been discussed. And this was really. Just crucial and a game changer because it's one thing to have a coaching session, but then how do you put that into place and execute on it successfully if you still have lots of follow-up questions and perhaps the coach isn't available anymore. So that was a great model for me. Worked personally really well. And she's incredibly generous with all of her resources. She's a fountain of knowledge in all things business of interior design. So I really appreciated that generosity of kind of materials and resources to access. And she's absolutely ahead of the curve, ahead of the game when it comes to AI tools in interior design. So I've gone from somebody who. Was barely using AI to knowing a lot more about it and how it can support me in my business, which is something that I wanted to create for myself. And yeah, just lastly, I'm so pleased that I did it. I feel much more confident in stepping out and offering my services and I will certainly be reconnecting with her down the line, on and off as my business evolves and grows.

Speaker 2: 3:31

On today's episode of Designing Success I, we have a very robust plan here in the Oleander and Finch studio for the podcast for this year, and all the different topics that I feel are relevant to emerging and established designers, as well as creative small business owners who are looking to scale, who are looking to adopt new platforms, software systems, processes, all the things that I nerd out about in the studio. And it's all mapped out as well as I haven't mapped out all the guests for the entire year, but I have some pretty strong ideas. I have a lot booked in, a lot prerecorded. And then every now and again a spanner gets thrown into the works. Despite feeling like the resident robot girl around here. I don't actually work for OpenAI. I don't work for Claude or Gemini or, and I certainly don't get the pay that they do. I don't get the Silicon Valley benefits. I don't have shares in any of these. There are no affiliate links when I talk to you about ai and although I've learned to harness. Creating custom GPTs for all types of businesses. I don't just make them for designers. I have a couple of big contracts on the go where I develop ai, customer assistance for businesses and all sorts of things, and I have really heavily leaned into it. However, I do not work for them. I do not know when they're gonna make an update. I often get involved in the beta testing of things. I am shown things before they get released. So I did know this was coming, this big image update that I'm gonna talk about today, but I didn't know when it was going to drop. So I've moved today's episode, solo episode, and pushed it a fortnight because I really thought it was important to come and chat about the gigantic pink elephant in the room, which is Holy Batmobile Batman. What is gonna happen to interior designers now that AI is. Effectively generating all these amazing ideas. If you haven't played around with this tool, let me tell you clearly you can update, for example a sketch up file or a screenshot from whatever floor plan software you are using to create your drawings and it can apply the materials and show it to you in an scape level. 3D render like that. It can give you ideas. You can upload a picture of your living room and say, remove all of the clutter from this and then give me paint. Suggestions or show me what would happen if I painted that naughty pine wall, which I did. I just tested with a DIY that we did last year. What would happen if I painted that naughty pine wall and what would it look like in white? What would it look like in this color? Those are very simple applications. You can also ask it to remove all the clutter in that area and then to suggest a full. Design executed in a particular style. Imagine modern, organic, which is my fve and shop only available items in this postcode at this budget. So effectively you can instruct chat GPT to go off and create you an e-sign. In seconds, you can upload your 2D mood board and ask to see this room as a 3D render and ask. To visually articulate to your client exactly how this room will look, when it comes alive, when you are actually standing in a 3D room. Make it to proportion and scale. Include light coming from an easterly direction. Whatever you can dream up, you can now ask for. It is scarily accurate. The images that are coming out of this are I'm not even kidding when I say I had to double check between oh yeah. The lamp base is slightly bluish in this one, when in fact the original after photo has a white lamp base. So I had to look that closely to see what was the finished product and the chat, GPT render now. I wrote a big email out to my email list about, some of my thoughts about how we could use this type of tool or application inside of our business. But you better believe that my dms have been incredibly busy over the last four days. There's a lot of excitement. There is a lot of panic. So I thought we would use the podcast today to brainstorm some ways that we can use this to our advantage as people in the design industry because our industry is not going anywhere and every industry is under threat by ai. If you knew the types of things, if you are not using this on a day-to-day basis and you are not keeping up with briefings on what is changing and where we are headed, then you are in some sort of blissful denial, I'm sure. But I can tell you right now. People asking me like what happens when clients can reverse engineer images. Hello Google lens. What happens when they can source or procure or find the supplier when they can find the supplier details, they absolutely can you share a mood board on Instagram. Someone can screenshot that, upload that into chat GBT and say, find these items online, or find these items in this postcode, or tell me where to buy this. We are not secret squirrels any longer. And personally, I'm here for it. There are really two camps that you can be in from this point on. You can get involved, lean in, learn what there is to learn, look at AI as an opportunity, take AI into your workflows and processes as a tool and as an assistant and as something that. I don't wanna use the word elevate, a sound like chat, GBT, but as something that will elevate your deliverables. This is something that can help you. And if we can move through our design processes faster, we can take on more clients. And I'm not afraid that they won't be there because I feel like anyone who is going to upload a photo of their room in chat, DBT, and then trust ai, yes, the design might look lovely, but. How well does AI actually know those suppliers? Is it full of fantastic furniture? No shade, but some shade? Yeah. Does it understand the acoustics? Does it understand that my dining table has to work for entertaining and for my 3-year-old cutting up thousands of pieces of paper all over the house? I need it to be luxury and I need it to be lived in and there are a lot of nuances and things that there is no way my clients understand how to prompt it correctly. To be fair, they struggle to articulate to me who is asking all of the right questions in a one hour consultation, what it is that they're actually looking for. Hence that we have a conceptualization process at all. And even though this is happening and some of the results are wild, I can't. Fathom a world where somebody's you know what? Let's get a trade team together. Let's get the builders in. Let's chat to the chippies. Let's do all the things. And by the way, here's my floor plan and here's my sketches. And I chat GPTs them. So if you guys could just, take 500,000 maybe. If you guys could just take$1.5 million of my money and pop it together and see if it works, that'd be great. We are definitely not there. And here's the amusing plot twist that nobody's talking about, and that I find delicious for a long time, whether you know it or not, your potential clients have been using all sorts of apps. There's these room designer apps, and there's apps that claim to be, interior design at your fingertips and upload your room and do this and do that. Those apps just became obsolete, and I don't think they have a pivot plan. And I find that ironic and funny because as someone who, especially in the e-sign world, has encountered people going, oh, I don't know, you're a bit expensive. I am thinking I'm just gonna use this. And I'm like, okay, bye Felicia. I have fun with that. That's fine. I'm okay. I will take the next train carriage that comes along that truly understands my worth and wants to have an in-depth conversation about curation. About layering, about, reflecting. Lived in experience, about relying on actual education and consistent keeping up with trends. There are so many things that we do as designers that are worth so much more than an image generation. It feels like we just slayed an entire dragon and a part of the market. That was quite frustrating, and that's incredibly good news as well as I'm finding, the more that I use chat GPT or AI in general, the more that I find it's only as good as its prompts and it's always the best. So when Chat GPT launched, it was brilliant for the first sort of three to six weeks when no one was really using it. I was like. What, and then people started training it to be dumb. I don't know how else to say that, but I felt like humans got involved and they prompted it badly and then worse again, and then it just started spitting out what it thinks you want, which is at this lower level. And unless you know how to train it, customize it, or teach it to continue to kick out results at that higher. Level. You probably don't even think it's that good, to be honest. I speak to so many people like, oh, look, I've tried, but it's quicker for me to just write it than to edit it the way that I want it.'cause it just doesn't give me what I want. That's in the prompting. That's in the training and that's in the knowledge. When we drill down to it, we're actually given such an opportunity because as soon as it becomes mainstream to be able to get these design ideas generated and these looks, oh my God, has anyone else seen what's happened to Pinterest lately? I've got clients pinning things that I'm like ai, and I'm almost. Thinking to myself, I'm only really emotionally connecting to two of those images, and it's because I can see they've been implemented by a designer. AI is actually showcasing your value. AI is actually training people to lean in and invest in interior designers and then flex that to their friends. Oh, we got an actual designer in because we didn't want a generic image generated interior design results. I think that there are people who are always gonna try this, like cheaper, faster, good enough kind of DIY thing, and those people absolutely are out there right now. Hello if you're listening, but they're also not your ideal client because they were never gonna invest in you no matter how good your concept was. Handmade or AI generated. They just don't see the value of interior design or they have money stories that hold them back from being able to do that. Or when we check our privilege, maybe they are just not in a position to be able to hire to get that support. So I am so excited for the people who could not stretch beyond their household budget to be able to get this support, but whom absolutely also deserve to live in beautiful spaces. I think what we do as designers, we are going to find that this AI update splits the industry into two very clear lanes, mass, fast auto-generated design, DIY, made by chat, DBT. And humanized personalized luxury level design. If you've built your business around intentional, intuitive lifestyle and client-centric design, you're not just going to be safe. You're about to become the upgrade that clients brag to their friends about investing in. Let me explain to you exactly why or what I think AI can't do and probably never will. I hope never will I. AI cannot feel the emotion of a space. AI cannot feel the frustration of the person on the end of the discovery call. Who's feeling overwhelmed? Whose husband's leaving all the decisions to them? Who doesn't really understand the undertones, who doesn't know? How the tile's gonna look on the wall. Who is just saying to you, oh my God, I just need to visualize this. I just need help. And even if you went to an image generator, you still wouldn't know to believe it or lock it in because you are not a good decision maker and you need a professional opinion. Hands up how many of those people you've spoken to, because I'd say maybe for me three this week. AI will not understand that your client has a five-year-old who needs a reading nook or has neurodiversity or needs a spot to spill glitter without destroying the hardwood floors. There are so many considerations when it comes to family living, and families might be your ideal client. They might not be, but they certainly make up a large slice of the pie when I'm chatting to clients, and I always think about the sorts of things that I consider that I know AI has not considered in that image generation. I'll ask people about the likelihood of somebody with a physical disability visiting their house because I don't want the wheelchair to get stuck on the lip of the rug, or I will really think about the way that the space needs to flow. And I just. Think at this point, unless specifically asked to assess spatially the flow for a wheelchair, user chat, GPT would not be thinking about that. When it just spits out the same looking open plan living space in a certain design style, it is going to start to become quite repetitive. I feel that we're going to see Japan D looks a certain way. Scandinavian looks a certain way and leaning on the same sorts of. Decor and of pieces, almost like a science, when we know that interior design is a balance between art and science. The other thing that AI will not ever be able to do is break the rules. So I am a better designer because I instinctively just know that something goes. I just know it works. I do I don't know how I know it doesn't adhere to what I was taught when studying interior design. I know I'm not supposed to do that, but I sometimes 100% know if that fabric is not the fabric that we choose to reupholster the dining chairs, I will die on this hill. I'm leaving. That's it. I just know, I just have a feeling that's in intuition, that's designing with experience, that's designing with heart and with a skilled eye, and actually being able to say, I. I don't know why. I just know, yes, I don't know why it does, but I just know I have to have it. And when I'm doing a flat layer or I'm doing something, there are times that I'm just like I actually can't physically articulate why this choice has to be this choice, but I know that it does, and AI will not do that. AI will stick to the principles and elements of design and everything that it is taught, but you can't have an emotional reaction that just knows. AI cannot sense when a room is just a little bit off, and then there's one thing that could just make it right. It is again, going to just spit up rules and regulations back at you as suggestions. It's not actually able to be like Ahuh standing in here. I think you have your pendant home too low. I think that if we painted these four walls and ceiling the same color and color saturated this room, but we added an accent color to, offset that in some cushions, I think you're gonna feel that this room is far more intentional. Come to think of it, AI can't even convince your client to trust it enough to paint that color. Hands up again if you have spent time literally begging your client. The ones that aren't all about the green flags to be like, trust me, I know what this is gonna look like. I just think we do it. I think we will paper the ceiling. I think this is the one. And sometimes it's really hard to get those yeses. This image generation tool would allow me in seconds while standing in the fabric house to upload an image of the, end of bed bench or whatever and upload the fabric and upload the room with the bed made and say, show me the bench at the end of this bed, and I could convince my client right then and there. See, I do know what I'm doing and I am definitely signed up for that. AI cannot convince someone to color saturate a room. Based on even the image, I feel like it's still a hard sell for someone to know, yes, you know what you're doing and you're not just a computer showing me something that you've created based on my request. Like what if you've heavily influenced AI's output so that you are saying like, I wanna color saturate the room in blue. Show me what that would look like. But you are the client giving that brief to ai. AI is not telling you whether that's a good idea or not. Chat to BT will show you whatever you ask. I'll see an octopus marry a dog. That doesn't mean it's a good idea. I could ask for it, but, and I could design that a tentacle dress, but I, yeah it doesn't mean anything unless your client briefs in, for example, that their pet sheds or their cat scratches, or they need to factor in the fact that their toddler will smash that ceramic lamp straight off the lamp table. Then AI is not doing the job of a designer. It doesn't understand how the 3:00 PM light hits, how can it, that would not have been briefed in by the client because until our clients get better at prompts, we are not at risk. So this is only going to be a mini episode because I have decided to run a free webinar free for anybody who wants to come along and workshop with me how we best position our value as interior designers. In a world where AI is here, people are going to be asking you, why don't I just do that? Can't I just do that? What is the difference between you and me? Just plugging it into chat GPT and the sooner you can articulate your value truly, and you understand how to present it and you are confident and not afraid of this technology, the sooner it becomes just something that was like, oh yeah, that weekend where we all freaked out, like the millennial New Year's where we all freaked out that computers were gonna explode and the world was going into an apocalypse and then we woke up the next day and everything was fine. Please join me if this, if any of this is of interest to you, or if you're afraid of any of this or you want to join the workshop, it is not going to be a lecture. It is going to be a conversation. It is something where I want to empower you and help you to feel confident, to be able to take those discovery calls and be like, oh, yeah, absolutely. It can generate images. This is what makes me different, and this is why I charge the fees that I charge. And that workshop is going to be running on Friday the 11th of April at 12:00 PM Midday Australian Eastern Daylight savings time. I'm in Melbourne. If you can join me, great. If not, register. Anyway, I'll put the link in the show notes and I will send out a replay, but I do think for anyone who is triggered by this episode or really feels like, oh yeah, I really need to get around all the different ways and get my confidence up as to why this is not a threat to me. This is an opportunity. Please join me. I'll love to chat about it. Okay. That segues so nicely into how to pivot and not panic. It's really easy for us to be in panic mode. It's really easy to attach to all the people who are reluctant to change, to accept change, to even entertain the idea of change. It's get in or get out, get busy living or get busy diet, however you wanna look at it. At this point, it makes me so full of rage when I just hear so many people going, I'm too old for this tech. I can't, I'm not interested. It's not something that my business will adopt. It's not something that I'm going to get around. That's fine. But anyone who is resisting this in a way where they're just. Digging their heels in and putting their head in the sand and not getting involved or just complaining. I am so solution focused. It's the way that I coach. Don't come to me with a problem unless you've tried a few alternative answers and you have a bit of an idea of which direction you wanna go. I'll workshop solutions with you until the sun comes up, or goes down or whatever time of day you actually come to me, but I'm not interested in victim based problems I do not understand when people are like, oh, Chad's here. It's trying to steal my job and I dunno what to do and I can't get you'll just spin yourself in a circle doing that while the rest of us learn to lean in. Learn a way to make it work for you and don't work against it. The first suggestion I would make, and I have a lot of ideas that I'm gonna be sharing inside of the webinar. I'm not doing a podcast episode about this at this stage. It will only be shared inside of the webinar. But the first thing that I would be doing is looking to, how do I offer AI assisted strategy sessions? Okay, so you've gone off, you've done all your diy, you've gone and prompted in all of the image generated things. Now you need a professional eye with detailed documentation to refine, to curate, to make it actually work. Be the design doctor. They bring you all the AI suggestions. If something's been a mess, if you've actually tried to make some iterations. We've all seen the AI images with six fingers. It is a thing, it's not perfect at all, but you will be able to create strategy sessions, even small. 30 minute paid strategy sessions where you can have a look at what they've attempted and you can tell them what will and won't work and why. There are ways that we can ramp up the personalization, whether it's an in shopping day, whether it's they bring along all of the AI generated ideas that they have, and they sit down with you and we do a strategy session, then we do a sourcing session. Then we see if we can apply any trade only benefits. At this point, the trade programs are not going to be. Just handing out those reductions in RRP to people who've essentially used Google. So where can we run showroom tours? Can we take five people at a time? Can we start loading up some of that inventory onto our websites and adding in trade margins? Looking more towards physical shops? I'm not saying that's the right move for all of you, any of you, most of you. I'm just thinking outside of the square, what I would do if design was my only source of revenue right now, specifically as an e designer. I probably would've had a little bit of a headless chicken moment of the skies falling down. I reckon for a good half a day, I would've been very worried about this new change. But then being the solution focused person I am, I would do exactly what I am doing. Let's get brainstorming, and I have been doing that over the weekend. I have a huge list of things that I think are going to help you. Pivot for want of a better word, and actually just adopt this into your processes. There are so many ways that this is a benefit to you. As I said earlier in the episode, quicker yeses, quicker concept development, processes are moving so we can get into the next phase and actually spend time in the building and the project management and all that comes after concepts. Another way that I look at it is clients have always had the ability to shop me using Google Lens. They could always find the source links. I often tag my suppliers. That's a whole different episode. The DIY element is huge. Be it Ikea, be it. Like just Pinterest all of those sorts of things. People have always had the ability, if they were gonna do that, they're gonna do it anyway. Not to mention if they were deeply wanting to spend all of this time doing interior design, they'd either, I. Go and do an online course or do a university degree, or they'd spend all their time looking into procurement and sourcing and design development and all of that sort of stuff. I'm sorry, but the number one, first thing that most people say to me when we dive deep into their ideal client is busy professional couple. Average household income of 250 K plus does not have time for this. Is not details oriented, cannot visualize in space. That's one thing that obviously this image generator can help with, but it is not everything. What we are ultimately hired for is our skill in couples therapy and project management and D detail documentation and the processes that I work with my designers is. Next level, smooth, that systemization that we go, the onboarding process, the process that happens with documentation and deliverables and the automations. And it is chef's kiss. And you don't get that by just throwing into chatt, show me what this wall would look like if it was blue. So here. AI is here and it is not going anywhere, and it is getting better and better. But so are you. You are not going anywhere either, and you're not just a designer. You've got the translator of emotion, the reader of feelings, and emo you know, like when we're in a room, we can read and pick up on even just the facial cues I can pick up when I'm presenting something in a proposal. Meeting where the client's is she on the wrong track? I do not like that. I can just pick a tile out of the box and be like, he's not gonna go for this. Oh I'll pitch it anyway. I'll see what I can do. You are the curator of comfort. You're a visual storyteller. You understand layers. You understand the human lived experience. You understand why antiques and handed down heirlooms and ornaments purchased on global. Holidays are important. This is not the end of your business. This is not the end of our industry. It is the beginning of that clear divide, fast and fake versus slow and soulful. And I already know which side you're on and I know what we're gonna pick, but it is about being able to articulate that value and explain why on earth when it looks so easy to just take the ready-made crap from chat, GPT. Why on Earth you wouldn't do that. And I wanna remind you that some of the examples that I shared in my Friday email and in other places, they have been built off mood boards that I have created. They have been built from mood boards that I have curated. They are already showcasing my particular design eye. I did not just put a prompt in that went fill me a room in this country using these materials make it feel like this or look like that, and then left AI to its own devices. Oh my goodness. No. I have tried that and it is very questionable at best. It's not intentional, it's not considered, the wallpaper isn't chosen to the brief. It's just chosen to see if it's a, it's very matchy. Matchy. I'm really, I cannot stress how much I'm not afraid of these AI generated images because I know what I can do and I've seen what it can do. I. So I'm gonna end it there because it is a quick, just a reminder that you are not at risk. It is going to be okay. You do need to understand how to use this, and it is incredible as a support tool inside of your business. We build it into your process so that things are, I can't wait till I'm standing on site and I can be like I'm picturing this Moroccan tile for that area. And then go, wait, I'll show you, take a quick photo, show the tile that I'm looking, ask for it to be applied. To replace the splashback while I'm standing in somebody's potential renovation and just being able to get them on board straight away with the way that I think and being like yes. I love it. So I'm really looking forward to the opportunities. I, yeah I'm not even gonna go into all the things that I've seen while I've been testing it in beta, but I will tell you that I'm here to support you. It's no secret that I love what AI can do for interior designers and interior design businesses, but I do understand that it's scary and I do understand that it's baby steps. So I would love to see you join me at this free webinar so that I can talk you through some more ways that you can potentially grow your skill when it comes to presenting your value to clients because humanizing your brand, articulating your value, and actually showing people the outcomes that you deliver are so wildly different to that of which you can just see through an image, the way you walk a space, the way you feel in a space and the way a finish space is styled. Hey, I'm sure there's even opportunity for you to have an offer in your business that is, did you DIY, everything and stuff it up. You can have this quick one hour consult where I rewind what you messed up, or, you've made the expensive mistakes. Now I can help you unravel and pinpoint some quick wins as to where you can try to gather back some of your wasted money, like coming at it from that angle. Or you could also offer like a trade. Benefit pack with installation and styling so that you get the designer finish, even if you've done it all yourself. What I would do if that were me and my business, if they would have to apply and show, they would have to pitch the concepts to me.'cause I'm not putting my brand, my business, or my brainpower near anything that makes me vomit. I'm not coming over to your house to lay that burgundy throw over horrendously clashing linens with. Disproportionate lighting, and I'm not doing that. No way, no how, but I think that's great if people could do a lot of their own stuff, but they really want it to come together in a way where a professional has been involved. You could sell that last add-on by application. Anyway, I'm not sharing any more of my ideas. As I said, they're all in the free webinar, the links in the show notes. If this has been helpful, come and tell me. My dms at Oleander and Finch come and talk to me about ai. I promise I will hopefully be able to alleviate some of your concerns. I have some really big talks coming up soon. One particular seminar, which I will talk to you about more in the coming weeks that you can attend. There's a lot going on and I just wanna be a voice of reason and a person who can get real life help, because when it's time to panic, I'll be the first one to say. So I do think that there are some things that we will be saying goodbye to in our industry and that we won't do. And a lot of those things are the same reason that you become a bottleneck and you're so drowning in admin. So I'm so here to buy Felicia. All the difficult things, all the things related to administration, client comms, loading in all the information like that stuff's getting better and better. We should be able to be turning around our projects quicker and smoother and easier. But in order to do that, you need to learn how to use these tools and you need to adopt AI into every process in your business. Okay, that's enough. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk. I will see you next week where we have an amazing interview episode and. In the meantime, please rate, review, follow, share with a friend, help me. I've actually had a little bit of issues with the microphone of late, which has been fixed, I hope you can tell in this episode. I have noticed that the downloads have been moving in a direction that I don't particularly love, and I'm not sure what's up with that. But it is not drastic. It's just something that happens from time to time. So I really need your support. If you are a regular listener, could you please share this with a friend or suggest it in your design chats or anywhere where you think you might be able to get a few more people to give it a listen, especially this episode I think is helpful because we are all feeling the same, feels same, and I really hope this has addressed some of those issues for you. Okay. Chat to you next week. Bye for now.

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