Discussion with Kerri from 414 Project

Kerri Heddell is a CEO, digital brand strategist, book editor, copywriter, publicist, and survivor advocate dedicated to helping authors, executives, and visionaries turn trials into a powerful, undeniable presence. Combining strategic brand management with a background in Criminology and Political Science, Kerri works side-by-side with clients to edit compelling manuscripts, write high-converting copy, design custom websites and landing pages, execute dynamic PR strategies, and launch complete, revenue-generating personal brands.
About The 414 Project
Founded on the powerful principle of stepping into purpose and taking bold action "for such a time as this," The 414 Project was created to break cycles of silence, elevate survivors, and build a sustainable path to recovery. Operating as a hybrid social enterprise, the organization channels strategic business momentum and agency services directly into lasting social impact:
● The Stage (The 414 Project LLC): A bold, empowering platform offering corporate keynotes, workshops, digital branding, website design, copywriting, book editing, and media strategy focused on resilience, leadership, and breaking the silence surrounding trauma.
● The Sanctuary (The Project 414): A non-profit 501(c)(3) dedicated to providing safe housing, trauma-informed rehabilitation, legal advocacy, and clinical mental health resources for survivors of domestic violence and human trafficking.

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SPEAKER_00 0:05

Hi, Jeff here from Overwatch 5.9. Uh, as we always start off, in case you're just listening, I describe the t-shirt that I'm wearing. Today is the Dogs in Freedom t-shirt from our friends at the HeroCo. So a little shout out to them. Uh, if you are able to see it, uh, you'll love the shirt. So uh we have with us today um Carrie, and Carrie is going to explain a little bit about uh what she does with her um project. It's called the 414 Project, and she's going to discuss a little bit about her uh personal journey uh with her uh book that she authored, and she'll talk about that, and then she'll talk about some of the other business ventures that she has gotten into and some of the things and ways that she helps and gives back. So thanks for joining us today.

SPEAKER_03 1:03

Thank you, Jeff. Thanks for having me. I'm excited to be here.

SPEAKER_00 1:08

My pleasure. So, uh, to get started, we have the 414 project. Um, before we started this, you had mentioned um, as we were talking, the name of a a book and also the impetus of why you named um your company uh 414. So there's a significance under a Bible verse. Uh maybe we can just start with um why 414 and kind of what brought you about to to do what you do.

SPEAKER_03 1:43

Yes. Um so 414 project um was named after um the verse uh Esther 414, um, which talks about um so uh uh about uh remaining silent and uh that you've come to a place uh for such a time as this. And uh Esther in the Bible was bold and she um talks about how you know how bold she was when she had to come to the king and and everything. And so um that's something that has stuck with me for a long time, especially when I was um dealing with uh domestic violence in my in my marriage, and I went through 23 years of domestic violence. I was married, and then and then um if that wasn't enough, I actually had uh two boyfriends that were uh that I went through with domestic violence. So it was it was um it was a lot of of stuff. So I so I um I had to um you know uh hold on to that. Um and so one one thing that, you know, um when I was when I was going to church uh in uh you know around that time, it was um, you know, it was very um I was raised in a Christian home. And so that was that was something that was very prevalent for me. And so um, you know, having those having those verses and having that um, you know, was very um helped me a lot to know to have that. And so um, you know, one thing that, you know, people that are in domestic violence situations, um, a lot of them tend to tend to remain silent and tend to stay silent and don't always tell people what's going on. And so um, you know, at that that verse uh brings very clear for me because that is something that, you know, I I did stay, I did stay silent for a long time. And so one thing for me is that, you know, I uh it took a long time for me, even though I was able to speak, uh, it took a long time for me to really regain my voice and be able to uh really speak up and talk about what's what happened uh and what happened to me in my in my uh time, you know, with my ex-husband and with my with the two relationships that I had. And so um, you know, I uh uh even on my signature, on my, you know, on my email, you know, I talk, uh it says, you know, talks about reclaiming my voice and just taking back my uh taking back my voice and everything. So, you know, I think it's so important to to be able to, you know, have that have that opportunity. So that's something that I really want to help women with and help women to have that opportunity to do that. So um that's kind of how it came about.

SPEAKER_00 4:43

Well, thank you for being vulnerable and sharing that as well. And uh also by telling your story, you may very well help somebody who is caught either in the cycle of domestic or intimate partner violence. And in addition, um, because from your marriage and then your relationships, uh, I can pretty much guarantee that the next relationship, or if you are in one now, that it's not going to be the same. So um you've learned uh what the signs are. Um, you've also learned to uh, as you said, find your voice. And um it is not anybody's fault that they end up in an intimate partner or domestic violence situation, nor is it their choice to stay. Um there's a lot of things that happen uh psychologically, and there's a lot of manipulation, there's a lot of power and control, there's uh a whole bunch of things that go on uh when someone is involved in this, uh whether it be male, female, or or other. Um so it affects everyone. Um in particular, uh men or uh those in a same-sex relationship uh tend to be less likely to even come forward. So it's even even more difficult uh in those situations. So one of the uh chapters that I wrote in one of the books that I have, uh victimology book, we speak about intimate partner violence in there, and uh we did a study uh part of the dissertation that I did, uh actually focused on the bullying behaviors and then the uh the outcomes. So even though there is not a predictor of domestic violence, but every domestic violence abuser showed signs of bullying at an early age. So uh it is not necessarily that one is a bully, one becomes a domestic violence abuser, but certainly a domestic violence abuser had in every case that we looked at in the cohorts, the cohorts that we used, uh they did exhibit that behavior. So we recommend early intervention, we recommend talking about it in uh grade school, uh we recommend trying to mitigate the bullying and then also discuss uh the facts of what they may or may not see at home because a lot of times what we found in research is that uh people who are in a relationship uh that has domestic violence in it or in a partner violence, um they had experienced that at home or at least knew someone who experienced it. So uh that that is very typical. So um I don't know if you had shared that in in your uh book or not, because it hasn't been published yet, but um if we're we're talking openly, had that been your experience where was that part of your uh upbringing? Did you see that or did you see it in others, or um is it something that just sort of kind of happened um along the lines when you were married?

SPEAKER_03 8:37

Um so I had um, so I had it in my um, so I did have it in my younger, I had did have it in my younger years myself. Um, but my ex-husband, um he had it pretty um heavily in his family though. Um and so uh and so what had actually happened with my ex-husband, uh, and it's kind of it's kind of ironic because um, you know, some people, some some men actually look at this um in a different in different ways, actually. But um, but so when when when I got married to my ex-husband, um uh well let me back up. Before we got married, everything was great when when we were dating. Like we were he was great. Um we actually met online and um he was I mean, like we dated for a long time, actually. So it wasn't like we, it wasn't like I didn't know him. I mean, we we dated for like two and a half years, um, almost three years, and um before we got married. And so I felt like I knew him pretty well. And I mean, he was I mean, he was great. He treated me really well. I didn't see any signs of anything um that was awry. My parents, my parents liked him a lot. My parents thought he was great, you know, all my friends thought he was great. I mean, he was like, he was like the like all my friends thought he was like the best thing, you know, like um, and so I truly thought he was like he was gonna be my forever husband. And so, um, you know, and but it was it was about um it was when we got back from our honeymoon, um, I got a call from the bank that we were overdrawn by uh $3,000. And I asked him what happened, and he told me that um, and I was in my 20s, but he told me that uh he had just miscalculated on some bills. And so I just, I just told him, I said, you know, it's fine. Um, you know, my dad helped us put the money back in the account, and I just let it go and I didn't say anything else about it because I didn't think it was anything, I didn't think it was anything to be concerned about because I figured, you know, it was just something he had just done or whatever, and I didn't, I didn't ask any more questions. And so, um, but then a few months later, um, we were driving home, we had gone out with some friends, and we were driving back home and we were parking in our condo parking lot, and he told me that he wanted to talk to me. And um, we were sitting in the car and he he told me that he had had a pornography addiction for 15 years, and I didn't know it, I didn't have any idea what that meant. Like I just thought it was just I just thought because when you when I think about that, like I just think, I mean, again, I just think that, you know, that it's just something that, you know, guys do. I just didn't think it was anything to, you know, I didn't think it was anything to make a big deal about, you know. And so when I told my, so when I so again, you know, it was something that I was I wasn't sure like what to do about it. And so I talked with I talked with his family. And when I talked with his family, they were like, oh yeah, we've known about this. And I was like, did you guys not think to tell me about it? But nobody they they said, you know, they they said that they said that they thought it was his responsibility to tell me about it. And when I t asked him about it, he said that he thought that getting married would cure him. So, so that was his thought process. So, you know, he so, you know, and and so he basically lied to me. And so by that at that point, we had been married for three months, and you know, I didn't know what to do. And so I was so, you know, I I went and I talked to my mom, who was who I mean was a really strong Christian, and she told me, take him to the church. So I took him to the church because I didn't know what else to do. So I mean, I took him to the church, and so the church, the church, you know, signed him up for all these like, you know, like every man's battle and all kinds of stuff like that, you know. And so you know, um, and so I mean, he just, I mean, he but I mean, he didn't want to change. So I mean, he just he he didn't he didn't go to all the stuff, you know, and everything. But but it was very, I mean, but it again, it was like, you know, I mean, it was my dad, my dad is my dad at the time was um was law enforcement. And and so, you know, it was, I mean, you know, we wanted to keep it like behind closed doors. Like it was, it was very like, you know, we didn't want the public to know about it. Like it was just, it was very, you know, I mean, like, we didn't know what was going on. So we just we just kept it behind closed doors because it was like, you know, what how do you tell someone that your husband is like, you know, but but it it quickly got out because my dad like got him, my dad got him a job at the federal government and then he got fired because he was looking at stuff on the computer and it was like, I mean, it just it just kind of it just escalated. So it just, you know, I mean, it just it just started to be, it started to become an ish an issue, you know, where we would where he was losing jobs and and everything like that. So and then and then that's when it started to that's when it started to get to where he was, you know, he was becoming abusive towards me because he was getting he was getting frustrated about he was getting frustrated about bills, he was getting stressed, he was getting, you know.

SPEAKER_00 14:40

So there is no excuse no matter what's going on, and as you've learned, I'm sure, yeah. Deflection, yeah. There are no excuses. So um somebody being abusive, whether it be physical or mental, yeah, that is their choice to do that, and there is no excuse no matter what they're going through. Yeah, yeah. Um yeah, don't re-victimize yourself, right?

SPEAKER_03 15:10

Right.

SPEAKER_00 15:10

That is not your fault, that is right, no excuse for it. Doesn't matter what he's going through, yeah. That is his truth. Yeah, and that is not uncommon that there are uh potential triggers, which alcohol, drugs, pornography, whatever, nibbling, uh whatever the case might be, but it typically revolves around a power and control. Uh there's something that makes them, and at some point I'm sure he ended up trying to isolate you. He tried to um control all the whatever finances there were, um tried to make it seem like it was your fault. And when incidents of um psychological or physical violence occur, then he'll turn around and be really nice.

SPEAKER_04 16:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:08

Yep, and and try to give you reasons why that happened. And uh it it's definitely, as you've learned, not your fault.

SPEAKER_04 16:20

Right.

SPEAKER_00 16:21

It is not anybody's fault that's stuck in a situation like that. Um to be able to recognize the signs are very difficult when you're in that situation, and that's why um your book, the 414 project, and things that you're doing are helping to educate those that may be in a similar situation who need to understand that it's not their fault and that there are resources and uh things can get better. It's difficult. There's no doubt about it.

SPEAKER_03 17:00

Yeah. And it's hard, it's hard to leave. I mean, I think that's one thing, you know. I think I think it got to the point, I mean, where I wanted to leave. And I mean, I think even I mean, even my my in-laws, you know, I talked with my in-laws and they my they so my my husband's family was Catholic. So um my in-laws said, you know, that, you know, in the Bible you're supposed to leave and cleave, you know, and so, you know, you're supposed to leave your husband and cleave or leave your family and cleave to your husband. And so, you know, it's like I, you know, I felt I felt guilty, you know, and so it was, and so I didn't leave for I didn't leave. I stayed with him for for almost 10 years. So, you know, and so um, you know, a lot of people, a lot of people ask me, you know, why, why did you stay, you know, and why did you why did you why did you stay and why did you why didn't you leave, you know, and so it's it's a hard question to answer because you don't because cause, you know, I mean, who wants to stay and be a human punching bag or or you know, all that stuff.

SPEAKER_00 18:08

But it's but you know, I mean, until you're actually in that situation, you don't really know, you know, it's like, you know, I mean Well it's an unfair question to ask somebody why they don't leave an abusive situation because uh there is so much of the dynamic of what's going on, yeah, that it's very difficult for someone who isn't uh uh trained, educated, or lived it to understand. Yeah, it it it wasn't your choice to stay. Um part of why you stayed, which you had mentioned just and a lot of times we we have seen in research, you know, it's because of uh there's several reasons. Financial, um potentially there is family that gets involved. Um you have uh and I don't know if this is the case for you, but there's uh uh pets where there are children involved.

SPEAKER_03 19:13

We didn't have children, but yeah. Yeah, but there are yeah, that is a factor sometimes for people, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:18

Um financially there's a factor, potentially. Um and then there's the years of being told certain things uh that you come to believe them. And it it's it it's certainly not the fault of the victim of the abuser who has groomed this.

SPEAKER_04 19:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:41

Um it's uh uh again a power and control issue and that that permeates the whole entire relationship. It does, yeah. Yeah, somebody saying why don't you leave, that's uh it's not a fair question because you you don't choose to stay. It's not your choice. Uh you sometimes don't realize what's going on. Um sure, you know, the physical and mental abuse, you know, that's evident, but you know, is this just part of how things are? Um and you know, they say they're sorry, and it's not gonna happen again. Yeah, things are good for a little while sometimes. And you know the cycle then keeps repeating. And at what point do you feel secure enough and safe enough to leave? So um having left that situation speaks volumes to what you were able to learn and get a support system for, and and that's potentially what some of the 414 project does is going to provide resources or at least knowledge, uh, if someone is in this wheel of power and control, uh, that they can recognize the signs, have someone to talk to, and then have a plan. Um in our book, we discuss having plans uh for you know getting out. Um and it's very difficult. Um it is. Yeah, particularly if they're controlling the transportation, the finances, they're isolating you socially. Uh it's very difficult.

SPEAKER_03 21:43

It is very difficult. And what I will say is um the way that I got out, I'm not proud of how I got out, but I um but I felt like I had no I felt like I had no option. Um I felt like I was I felt like I was backed up against the wall. Um I was trying to figure out how to get out. And so you know I didn't I didn't know at the time, like I said, I was in, I was in my, I um, you know, I was, I was in my at the time, by the time I was ready to finally take that leap um to get out, I was um I was I was in my early 30s and I was uh and so I was I was I was trying to figure out different different ways to do it. And so I you know I um uh he um you know he had he had just um he had done just a lot of different there had been a lot of different scenarios that had come about with him and you know he had been um he had been involved in some kind in some types of prostitution with prostitutes um and so um and so uh it just it was a lot of different scenarios and so I um I began uh I began looking outside my marriage for um for other at other men and so I um so I ended up I ended up having an affair and um and so uh the guy that I was having an affair with um he promised me that um he would help me he would help me get out and so um and so while I'm not proud of how I got out um he helped me get out um and so I was able to I was able to get out uh and so um I was able to I was able to leave and get out and um but unfortunately um the guy that I the guy that I um moved in with um ended up being just as bad as my ex-husband and so it just it just was as like you said it was a cycle and so I um and so but during that time that I was with him um I file I my husband ironically filed for divorce so we um so we did my divorce and um and and so uh you know we did my divorce and and everything and then um and so I s I was with this guy but you know it just um it just was it just was a cycle and so it just it just continued to cycle and so unfortunately I rode that cycle one more time so I so I um you know so I rode that cycle one more time throw this back out at you and the word unfortunately shouldn't be there.

SPEAKER_00 24:43

Yeah it is not your fault yeah uh but I will say I learned I learned I learned my I learned I learned my lesson in the sense that that I that I will say that I I experienced three different types of of of abuse and they and you know I learned the emotional physical and mental and I got all three of them in all three in all three because it was just it was crazy button to a lot and yeah unfortunately I'll use the unfortunate part there yeah yeah had to go through all three yeah yeah yeah that is unfortunate for sure yeah yeah that isn't any fault of yours that is the people who were the abusers yeah decision to either be physically emotionally or mentally abusive yeah that is something that is their fault yeah yeah certainly not yours yeah yeah for sure yeah so being able to tell that story first of all being vulnerable enough to tell that story yeah it is is great because now other people it may resonate with and they could say well you know I can get out too right so that's that's a possibility and then we'll talk a little bit about um some of the resources that your project offers uh for those that may be in a similar situation yeah so yeah so tell me some of the things that that your project is able to do to help people whether it be just information or resources or uh what is it that you kind of um have formulated or done in in this 414 project yeah so um so like I said I'm kind of in the beginning stages but I do um but I do uh I do offer you know some um I do offer the the support you know the um I can um you know I can talk to them um I I do have um if they're looking for uh a place like as far as they're needing a place to stay uh I do have a um I do have a resource um it's in Nashville um which is a place which is actually uh who I am modeling my my um my business after um and it's called Thistle Farms um it's um it's in Nashville and um one of um the the woman who's head of this um I've been I've spoken to her multiple times and I've spoken with her team um they um they have an amazing amazing facility and I I really um truly hope to um model my um model my business after them eventually my not uh my hope to have my nonprofit um like them but they are a they're a residential facility and um they will let you stay there for two years up to two years and they will um they'll give you um training um school training um they have they'll give you a job they'll give you um if you have kids they'll help you with your kids um they will um uh they'll um give you um school training um they will basically give you any kind of anything that you need and then after the two years are up they'll help you find a a place to live that's that's wonderful so and speaking about that some people also uh I I've seen it uh don't leave because of pets also because they feel that there's no place to take their their dog their cat whatever um it's just like family so they don't want to leave yeah and and that's another uh planning resource that um is is out there so if anybody is listening that's going through this uh the the places that take you in understand that and they will not turn somebody away because they um have right and I think Thessal Farms will help you with that as well I know that there's yeah I know that there's um I know there's also um a place in Washington DC um that also um that I know the people there um that they will um they will also help you with housing um they'll also help you with um you know different resources um they will also help you uh you know with um getting you know yourself situated um you know with um you know they're one thing that we really wanted to to kind of talk about as well is is the need not only to talk to somebody who can relate to it but also the trained professionals that can also provide therapy or coping tools mechanisms that can help someone who's been through this even if someone has not been physically abused right the mental and psychological abuse the isolation the those things they're they're just as bad. Right.

SPEAKER_03 30:30

So having a professional who can explain uh the dynamics of what goes on and then offer the resources uh to handle that uh that that's a big piece so um we often use it in the transition of uh in the military let's say of the pieces of faith finance uh you know what what are you going to do with yourself what is your purpose and someone who is leaving an intimate partner in violence uh situation uh doesn't see their true purpose sometimes because that's been kind of taken away from them um and kind of having that available those resources where you had mentioned you know job training a place to stay a a way to continue on that you're not just you know left out there on your own um those are are are really key important things yeah I think too also um and I I know somebody I know someone personally um in this situation and I I don't I don't want to mention their name but I um but I know uh I know someone personally that's um that's just recently um came out of my life but uh uh she um and it it just it breaks my heart that she's going through this but um but you know those pe there's people that are going through this kind of stuff that they won't admit that they're in those situations, you know, and it just um they don't realize it sometimes yeah and I think I think that uh you know I think people need to realize that it's okay to to um to understand that you know that um that that it's that it's okay to admit that you're in that kind of situation and and that they um you know can come to a safe place um to admit that you know um whether it's whether it's on a Zoom like this you know where they can talk to somebody you know um you know it just um but you know I think um the longer they stay in those situations the more detrimental it's gonna do to their mental health to their um to their um to just their you know uh everything you know I think it's just so and and it truly is everything because uh abusers are extremely good at isolation and isolation being not only socially isolated but financially isolated by being dependent by being uh told over and over again there's things that you just can't do and your self-worth is so low that it's very hard to pull yourself out of that um by no fault of the victim and I use the word victim because they truly are and you truly were a victim and it wasn't it wasn't because you chose to be a victim uh that's that's not what a victim is but a a champion of the cause such as yourself can maybe point that out to someone and potentially offer uh advice resources and the professional help that they can get um and make a plan and have a a solid exit point um when they decide that that is something that they're going to be able to do.

SPEAKER_00 34:43

Yeah yeah yeah it's it it's a very uh tough thing to deal with it's a very tough thing to see so I will tell you from a a law enforcement standpoint when uh an officer goes to a legimate partner violence call or domestic violence call and depending upon what state they're in or whether it's uh under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, if it's on a military base or if it's uh depending upon what state you're in, uh there are different laws that either will really significantly help or some laws that aren't as strengthened um and as good as others. Uh there are legal support that's out there uh that may or may not be available so everyone has to be familiar with those things um to be able to take advantage of it but an example would be um there are some states that have what's called mandatory arrest laws so when an officer goes to a scene of uh this demand we'll we'll call it domestic violence in this case but uh intimate partner violence kind of covers everything but when they go to there and there's uh enumerated crimes that occur and if they observe any of these things then one or both people potentially can be arrested depending upon what's going on. Now that doesn't mean that the person who is truly a victim and it defended themselves and that's why this other person has marks on them or there's uh something that's broken. Right? Um that'll all get sorted out but the arrest comes from the state being the person or the entity making the uh the case move forward with or without the victim's assistance. So there will be times where there'll be photographic evidence taken there'll be uh statements taken at the time and even if the person recants or doesn't want to move forward with it in a lot of states it doesn't matter the state will then do the prosecution right and when that happens that helps that person get out of that cycle. Right so uh no nobody wants to see the well not nobody but most people do not wish to see the person who now they view as their protector even though they hurt them mentally physically emotionally or the person who provides for their children or whatever the case might be uh then getting arrested and and what do they do right well no there's a lot of help out there so there are folks such as yourself who are brave enough that have gone through it that can turn their story into something positive uh that can be of help and they can provide those resources and and maybe it resonates with someone who will then break that cycle that they're yeah yeah yeah that's true that's very so tell us some of the things that um you see your um your project doing uh what what do you envision is going to be the um what's your short term goal and what's your long term goal well so for right now I mean I'm still doing um so I'm still doing you know my um uh I'm still doing like website stuff and I'm still doing um oh yeah let me interrupt you there hey we'll we'll kind of switch up into something a little more cheery and let's let's talk about um some of the things that you've you've done on another business side to help generate some income so you can do some of the other things that you do uh so you mentioned websites so uh tell us what do you do in in that realm so I do websites um I do websites um I have um I do websites I do uh I have I do um I do like email email market I do copywriting I do um I do uh um I do I do e um book editing I do book launches um book launches cool so we do uh I do like your own book what's that are you gonna be the person launching your own book oh I don't know I don't know okay all right I might I might be just doing it solo I don't know I actually just got through doing that I just got through doing a book launch so I was hoping that yeah I was helping somebody with his so um so it was great yeah so um but uh deal with a lot of people uh because of your background with your father and other things um you you deal with a lot of uh law enforcement uh deal with some military personnel yeah first responders yeah and you exist uh in like Mark development and um yeah we won't give out well we could say names I guess in in that sense is they're not victims some guy named Mark yeah some guy named Mark some guy named Mel we won't get into all that but yeah uh we we have some uh mutual uh people that we know and that uh yeah we we can help on yeah the podcast can also help by giving them some resources that I've found um whether it be in the transition from law enforcement or military to the private sector but also um in academia being able to lend a hand in some of the the book things so um your expertise is also in the website uh realm um hosting uh a website uh redoing a website basically maybe making a website um helping someone promote uh what they do and promote them when they go and do their their book signing or they go in or keynote speakers at places and so tell us just a little bit about how that works for you.

SPEAKER_03 41:47

Yeah so I really so I love I love to write so writing is something I love to do so I've so right now like I've got a guy that I'm helping him I'm helping him edit his book he's got a pretty big book that he's writing right now um he is law enforcement um and so I'm I'm helping him write his book um so uh uh and so that's been um that's been kind of a challenge just to get him to keep going on it but yeah I'm I'm excited about that so so it's been fun um helping him with that and um I did his I did his website as well so uh we'll revamped his website he are it his website was already built but I helped um revamp his website so um that's that would be fun so tell us how would somebody get a hold of you to do that if they were interested yeah so they can email me at um carry at uh the414project.com um or they can um yeah so that's probably the best way to do it is just email me. All right um yeah so they can email me um and um uh so um they can um they can email me uh and um you know I can um and then um you know we can get started like by that um but um I guess they can also just get in touch with you but they can but they could get yeah they could they could email me.

SPEAKER_00 43:13

I'll be happy to refer them to the yeah they can get yeah they can email me.

SPEAKER_03 43:17

Yeah they can that's fine. But yeah they can get it they can email me. So yeah uh that but um but yeah so they um so if they email me then we can you know we can get started on that. But yeah I do I do the um I do websites um I do landing pages um I do host them um you know I do I do I so I used to do social media I've I um I've kind of retired from that um although I do have I do have some people on my team that will do it. Um so I mean if they need that I can do it. It's just that I probably would I probably put it over to my team. But um so uh but um so when you say team you have like a full service I don't have a full service team I've got a couple people there that can do it yeah I've got um I've got a couple people there that can do it um I just I just don't I just I used to do it full time um that's what I did when I first started being an entrepreneur with social media but I just don't I just don't have the time and I just really don't have the desire to be honest um to do it as much. So um yeah but um I really do passions yeah yeah yeah I do I mean I love to I love to write so like I'll write like I'll um I will write content so like if you you not not you per se but you anybody like come to me and you know say you know that you need like content writing written or blogs or like you know like um like that is absolutely so helpful because it's the the bane of people's existence sometimes. Yeah like if you yeah if you need like if you need content written if you need um you know if you need um you know blogs newsletters um all that kind of stuff like I'm I'm your girl I'll do that I'll do that all day long like that's that's what I'll that's what I love to do I love to do that but like going in and posting and doing all that stuff I don't I don't like to do all that but that's okay because what from my experience anyway um the newsletter the blogs and having a robust landing page and a productive website uh that is really the the kind of key here. Yeah it's great to have some social media presses for sure but yeah yeah things mean a whole lot yeah yeah so like right now I just like I said I just got through doing an event last weekend and um and so I am actually I am actually um uh posting um I am actually doing the posting for him for him actually because he he doesn't really so case by case basis I got yeah yeah he's not really that's fine he's not really part of what what you're saying and what I'm hearing is that you're able to take the trauma and experiences that you've had and it's relatable to people who have been in law enforcement first responder military because they also have suffered whether they know it or not trauma as well so trauma can be treated multifaceted but at the same time someone that's been through trauma no matter what it is can then understand it speak toward it and lend some helping resources so it sounds like that's kind of why you've gravitated a lot not only because of your father in law enforcement because you were around that but it also helps solidify um what your kind of mission is yeah yeah and also I I mean I have my bachelor's degree in criminology so I mean I just yeah yeah put it to use for for something right yeah might as well that's excellent yeah that's great my dad says use it when can uh the listeners look forward to um seeing your book come out when when's the anticipated date hopefully soon yeah I'm I'm um yeah so I've I'm I may end up just um that's part of the reason why I'm I mean just to be transparent that's part of the reason why I'm I'm doing like websites and stuff like that because I'm trying to I've been trying to raise the money to publish it but um but I may just end up just doing self-publishing. Um that's perfectly fine.

SPEAKER_00 48:05

But in the realm of what you're doing it for it might be grants there may be publishers that might do it just because of the content. So um it may just happen organically or you can seek these out.

SPEAKER_03 48:24

My goal is to have it published my goal is to have it published in the next month um that's my goal so if so if it's um if I don't if if I don't get get somebody to publ somebody to publish it then um I will just um I'll just publish it on my own.

SPEAKER_00 48:42

Understood yeah so on and aside we can kind of talk a little bit and I'll give you some resources if you don't already have them of some um national projects that would probably get behind what you're doing and might be able to help underwrite some of the the cost uh potentially yeah and they some of them even have their own ways of of getting content out so okay yeah for sure yeah yeah I'm all about helping especially um anyone who has been through uh trauma and we're we're all about uh helping that and um from the uh the one uh text that I did write and some of the speaking engagements that I do on intimate partner violence um I've uh partnered with several different nonprofits uh in doing that and trying to do that early intervention um that really seems to be uh helpful in the research that that I've done uh had a lot of victims known some of this early on it may have helped trigger some red flags that pop up and they say wow you know this is starting to happen and maybe you know I can seek help here here here and um again that's no fault of the victim it's the fact that they have not been informed and they also just don't have the resources right you know the more uh resources they can get out get out there the better and uh it is absolutely great to have uh uh this venue uh where we have people who listen in uh that it may very well help or give resources to uh particularly if they're military law enforcement first responder uh they're dealing with it right not only themselves not necessarily the intimate partner violence piece but the trauma piece and the intimate partner violence piece of where they respond to whether it be uh EMS whether it be fire whether it be police whomever uh they're they're seeing this stuff uh and when they see it uh they don't uh turn a blind eye right uh but you know they're constrained by the laws and then there's only so much that they can do giving that resource uh so many counties have a victim witness uh or uh domestic violence or intimate partner violence uh team uh that can help uh just like with sexual assault there are uh resources out there for people who are victims of that and and what we neglect to think of sometimes is in intimate partner violence that there are sometimes sexual assaults that occur because that is a whole part of the power and control and just because you're married or in a relationship doesn't mean that you said yes right and right that can be a sexual assault as well so there are things to think about so bringing that uh conversation around is is very important there's a whole big dynamic to it and uh thank you for being willing to share it yeah thank you for having a uh a venue that uh is going to provide resources and help for someone going through it and at the same time on another piece um the the website with someone who has that knowledge and empathy um you might be able to tailor um somebody who is in uh law enforcement or first responder and uh their website um and their content um their blog or whatever they do you might be able to put some more information out so that's fantastic yeah yeah yeah yeah absolutely no I appreciate it yeah I'm excited yeah yeah so very good so best of luck in what you're doing yeah well I'm glad we got connected yeah let's talk again it is uh is it www.for or is it the 414 is there so it's so it is the 414project.com um I'm I'm um I have my team working on my website right now so it's not up yet but um okay it is coming yeah so the email works but the email works yes yeah um but yeah the email works so yeah yeah that is crazy so yeah the um but yeah that definitely the email works and um and um yeah but and the book will be the book should be up in books should be out in the next month yeah yeah wonderful thank you so much Jeff I appreciate you having me on well thank you for coming and sharing yeah it has been um a pleasure to talk to a survivor thank you someone who has gone through such trauma in their life not once not twice but three times three times is the charm yeah it's the charm we're gonna we're gonna hopefully end it there yes so that would be good yeah yeah yeah thank you for all that you do and are doing and thank you I see some great things coming out of the 414 project so um thank you for your time and sharing yeah thank you appreciate you being here thank you so much Jeff I appreciate it and we'll talk soon absolutely thank you