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[Self-Growth] EP32 - Why it's so hard to deal with your husbands? Husband's user-guide from a neuroscientist. | 《How to Use Your Husband Correctly》by Ihoko Kurokawa

• Meara He • Season 2 • Episode 32

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This episode is for all wives who have ever wanted to throw their husbands out the door. They may seem harsh or never appear to understand our feelings. But hold on, because today's book will teach us why men think so differently from us, and why sometimes, we are at fault too. For the men out there wondering why you're walking on eggshells with your wives, make sure to listen in as well.

Let's work on fixing the marriages we've already built, because the next person won't necessarily be better. Let's discover how.




Show Note

Book Title in Traditional Chinese: 老公使用說明書：腦科學專家教的——夫婦善哉70年聖經！在妳將老公當「大型垃圾」丟棄之前，請先看這本書。
Book Title in Japanese: 夫のトリセツ
Author: 黑川伊保子 Kurokawa, Ihoko



Stanford Medicine Magazine -  “Two Minds: the Cognitive Differences Between Men and Women” 


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Today's episode is for all wives who have ever wanted to just throw their husbands out of the door. They just seem too harsh and never seem to understand our feelings. But hold on there, because today's book will teach us why men are just thinks so differently from us and how we can use them in the correct way to become the happiest wives on earth. And for men out there wondering why you're walking on eggshells with your wives all the time, make sure you listen in as well. Alright, let's dive in.

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Welcome to a book with bubble tea With your host, mira Hee. Here I share takeaways from East Asian books on parenting, startups and self growth. Seeking insights beyond the typical English shelf, want to be a better parent and achieve more in life? You are in the right place. Grab your bubble tea and let's dive in. Hi everyone, Welcome to the new episode of a book with bubble tea.

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This is Mira. How's everyone doing? Today we're going to have a fun episode because we're going to talk about a book titled Venue on how to use your husband correctly. So today's episode is dedicated to all the wives struggling with your husbands. I mean, I sometimes do wonder, like why am I even here in this marriage, right, like this creature gives me so much pain and hardship? Why am I still here? But just hold on there, and today's episode will teach us how we can deal with them and how we can become the happiest wives in the world. And then make sure you listen in as well. You will reveal a lot of truths about yourself and how you can do better too. Alright, so today's book is Manual on how to use your husband, and it's written by Ihoko Kurokawa.

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As some of you might remember, we actually reviewed another book by the same author and that book was about son. Like how do we use our son? How do we use quote unquote like how do we cope and deal with our son in the correct way? That is our first episode ever for this podcast and the feedback we got was, you know, so positive. Like a lot of people, they say it was so funny, especially when they heard about you know my son like touching his bum bum to see whether the hair is still poo there or not. I mean to all the mom, I think we will just blow up, and then to boys that just seems to be, you know, something natural to them. Anyhow, it was a fun episode. So if you haven't listened to it, definitely go and check out. But just bear in mind of the recording quality. It wasn't great, but the episode was so much fun.

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And today we're going to review another book by the same author and this time we're talking about our husband, right, and the title in Japanese is called Otonotori Setsu. But what made me laugh so hard was the subtitle. It says, taught by a neuroscientist on having a 70 year old would have good marriage. Before you consider your husband as a bull trash and throw him out, make sure you read this book. When I read this subtitle, I just couldn't stop laughing. Wives, come on, let's be honest, okay. So no matter how much we love our husbands, there were always those moments we just wonder, like why I even married this guy. Seriously, wouldn't I just be better off without him? I have to admit, I probably thought about it more than once. But you know, when I looked at my husband's paycheck, I canceled the idea. I have to say my husband, to be honest, I make me cry so many times, and every time is because of the way he talks to me, like when I used to work for other companies.

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I remember once I came home complaining about my manager saying she never did any part of her work and we as her team members always had to tidy up her shit. But instead of being fired, she actually got a pay rise. How unfair it was. I was actually expecting for some comfort from my husband, or at least, you know, giving some words of confirmation that you know the situation was really unfair and you know I shouldn't be treated this way. But instead my husband just said what's wrong with that? Your manager actually did her job right. Her job is to get you guys to do things, not for her to do things, so you guys are just being stupid. I was like what? How did he dare to say that? You know? No comfort, no appreciation, but words like slapping my face.

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At that moment I probably hated my husband more than that manager. To be honest, if there was the form of divorce, I probably would file it immediately, but paycheck, paycheck. And another thing about my husband that often just made me want to storm out of the door and said I will never come back Is when he's so sure of the patience. When I tried to talk to him, you know, if I don't make my objective clear about the conversation and then make myself clear in the first three seconds, he would immediately shut me up, either with what yeah, or come on, what do you want to say? And then, with him rolling his eyeballs, I'm sure I'm not alone here.

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So if you're, like me, facing any of the struggles above with your husbands, or if you have any of the experiences with the below scenarios like your husband never seemed to be able to assist you with any housework, or it seems your husband suffered from this selective deafness he hears everyone else except you, or he never seems to understand your feelings, or he never does anything romantic to you, or you doubt whether your husband still loves you or not, or his presence alone just irritates you Then you definitely need today's episode before you chuck this disappointing husband away, because, according to the author, the next one won't be any better either. So this book is meant to teach all wives how we can use our husbands correctly. And you might find out. All these unbearable, incomprehensible, uncompassionate, puzzling, harsh, stupid behaviors are all his ways of shouting out to you I love you, I do this because I care about you, I want you to survive. And we, as wives, we're girlfriends. We also find out why sometimes we are actually the cause to our own misery, not our husbands with our partners. So in this episode I'm going to talk about the first section the so-called husband is just a human with this kind of brain to explore the differences between male and female brains. And the second part is did we actually wrongly accuse our husband examining the harshness of our female brains? And the third part is the nine tips from the book on how to use their husbands correctly to make ourselves the happiest wives.

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And before we go on and talk about it, I just want to briefly mention about the author. The author, ihoko Kurokawa, is a highly recognized neuroscientist in Japan. She focused on analyzing how, you know, pronunciation of words triggered different sensations in our brains and how the sensations differed by gender and age. So she knows a lot about brains and the differences between male brains and female brains. She's also a highly accomplished author in Japan, publishing a lot of books. So that's it, a bit of a background of the author. And then we are ready to dive in more about the book.

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Here we go. First, the so-called husband is a person who has this kind of brain, exploring the differences between male and female brains. First, we have to know that nothing involves in our brains does not serve a positive purpose. So even if it's a behavior that seems undesirable, it must still have something positive about it for our brains to preserve it. Like gossips, gossips might not be something desirable in many societies, but it actually serves a critical function for us to relearn what happened to others and to prevent making the same mistakes by talking it out. So if your husband behaves in a way that takes you off so much, perhaps there is still a positive purpose to it, maybe it increases his odds of survivability, but obviously that's only if you want your husband to survive in the first place.

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Second thing is that though we talk about male and female brains and the differences in our behaviors arrive from our brains, it doesn't mean we cannot learn or unlearn those behaviors. So you know, in fact, in the book the author advocates for old mothers to speak to our sons in a way that is rich in emotional expressions and help them to be more acquaintant with feelings and emotions so that sons actually know the right behaviors to get along with females later on in their life, so to be more familiar with how female brains work and how females' behaviors. So behaviors can definitely change if we put in the effort. Or you will see, like in different cultures as well. Like an Italian man who is like Joe, be low all the time, well, definitely be a lot more expressionate than a Japanese man who is so quiet and don't speak up their mind or speak up their emotions at all. So there is a cultural dynamic to it as well, and these external things can definitely help us and shape our behaviors in a way that are different from our natural instinct or natural tendency.

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But what this book talk about is all these natural tendencies that we are born with due to the differences in how male brain works and how female brain works. It doesn't mean that males cannot do what females do or females cannot do what males do, but it is our natural tendency. What is our default setting in our brain? When we face a situation, what is the most intuitive way for us to react to it, so you can think about it as if it's like a natural default setting of our brain. Obviously, we can learn to do it differently, but these default settings are there and it's sometimes hard to change because that's just our natural tendency and sometimes it goes beyond our awareness.

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Apparently, these differences in our natural tendencies of reacting to things can be observed as early as two to three months old infants, according to an article on Stanford Medicine Magazine. The title of the article is Two Minds the Cognitive Differences Between Men and Women, published in 2017. Summarizes the differences in the cognitive behaviors derived from our male and female brains. I'll include this article in the show note If you're interested. You can check it out. But essentially, boys and girls' infants at two to three months already show differences in their spatial visualization skills. Boys like to experiment differences in distance from young age and when they grow up they tend to have superior visual spatial skills and can visualize things in 2D, 3d and, you know, rotate in space and angle and are more drawn to things, whereas girls, on the other hand, like faces and learn how to speak faster and remain more oriented to faces even when they grow up.

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In a study of 34 reasist monkeys, scientists actually found out that male strongly prefer toys with wheels, like cars, over plush toys, whereas females actually like the plush toys more like the stuffed toys. And really it's not hard to think about. The differences result from different sexes in the animal world, like tigers. Male tigers after mating will just wander off, whereas female tigers will stay behind to look after and protect the cubs. No one teaches them how, they just know that's what they need to do naturally. And male and female adopt very different behaviors.

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Apparently, our brains are under the effect of sex hormones and sex chromosomes and since we are conceived, sex hormones and sex chromosomes are already working to influence our brains' development, to guide us to do the right thing in the future, to increase our odds of survival and make sure we produce better offsprings and make sure our offsprings also survive. So it's really not that surprising, if you think about it, that females and males have different natural born tendencies to do, feel, think differently. But what does it mean in the human world? So for human beings, men naturally stronger right, are the natural hunters who feed the families, whereas women are tasked with bearing offsprings, bringing them up, ensuring their survival and ensuring they are of the best quality To cope with these two distinctive roles. Our brains develop different survival strategies too, so men's default setting is to look for things far away, things that move, because they need to hunt, and women tend to look at things in front of them, be more sensitive to others' feelings, because they need to look after their kids and show compassion to other people, to get help and support in raising kids, which increases their and their kids' survivability. Understanding what males and females are tasked to do will make it much easier to understand why we behave so differently.

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So, naturally, for men's brain it's a lot more goal-oriented and problem-solving oriented, because they are hunters. Right, they need to focus on the goal and solve the problems that arise. So whenever anything happens, including his wife saying I want to talk to you, you immediately trigger their hunter's brain Any problem to solve here, what do I need to do now? But for women's brain, our brain focus more on compassion and are more feelings-oriented. Women usually stay back with other women to look after kids. So women who show compassion to other women and gain support from others are more likely to survive.

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So we say things like oh no, are you okay, do you need help? Are crucial to our survival, but it's so foreign to men. And men, when they are quiet, it actually de-stress them because, hey, solving problems needs some quietness to think, whereas women we need to talk to de-stress because it's a way for us to learn and relearn, to experience what happened, so in the future we don't make the same mistakes and we can also gain some inspiration from the things that have just happened. So men and women actually treat talking very differently, and men, when they are stressed or tense, they shut down this language detection functionality. Men will enter a space of visual concentration and focus to prepare for what may happen next, but for women we never shut down the language detection functionality. Can you imagine if women shut down the language detection functionality and the babies are crying because the babies are in danger? What would have happened to women?

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So you see how different men and women's brains function, and no wonder we have so many miscommunications in marriage. And now you see why our husbands can never give us any comfort and why, when we share our problems with them, they are so eager to jump in to offer solutions, because that's what they are built right the hunter, the problem-solving mode. And now you also see why, like, whenever we talk to them we sound like Charlie Brown's teacher, like they just never seem to be able to hear what we are saying. And when we ask them what we just said, they will just reply like huh, were you talking to me? Oh man, I'm sure it takes off so many wives. But hey, according to the author, apparently that's because your man entered this visual concentration zone. He is focusing on you to make sure you are safe. That's why his language detection functionality is shut down. So because he loves you so much, he wants to make sure you are safe so he cannot hear you.

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Okay, and the natural job of being a hunter also means his love is expressed in his routine work of going out to hunt for his family and bring the food back. When he brings back food regularly, that's his way of saying I love you. You know, I want to make sure you guys have enough food to survive. And in the modern day it's bringing back his salary regularly. But to be honest, to women who are tasked with all kinds of chores when the husbands are not home and the chaos of child caring, they see husbands bringing food home or bring salary home as doing his work. This is just his routine work. This is his responsibility to feed the family. And only when husbands do something out of the routine and surprise the wives that the wives say oh, my husband loves me so much he's doing this for me.

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Now, according to the author, we just have different expectations of how love is expressed. Men express their love in the routine work. So when the wife asks husband to do something and husbands actually do it, that is the way for them to say hey, I love you, I'm listening to what you're saying, I'm doing it. But for women a lot of time is like I'm really so busy, why should I still tell you what to do? Can't you not even see I need some help here? You see the differences here. These two brains think so differently. And once we understand that our husbands actually don't have the bad intention it's just the way their brains are wired Perhaps we can cut them some slack and think all right, after all, husbands are just creatures with this kind of brain spec, and this is what I'm going to do to cope with him better.

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Now let's move on to the second part. Did we actually wrongly accuse our husbands Examining the harshness of our female brains too, in addition to the differences in male and female brains which lead husbands and wives to act and think differently. We as wives also need to vindicate men a bit, because often the fault lies not with the husbands but with us. Why is that? The author says it's because women change drastically after having kids. She suggests that the primary task of a female is to produce offsprings. Right, therefore, if a woman is with a man for too long without having children, she will naturally want to move on, exploring other possibilities with other men to produce offsprings, even after having children.

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When the kids start walking, the same tendencies push women to explore other possibilities with different men to increase genetic diversity. But this doesn't mean women will have affairs where it cheat on their husbands, but rather women develop a way to manifest this eagerness by growing dissatisfaction with their husbands right in front of them. So what used to be cute suddenly becomes irritating. For example, the tousled hair after waking up used to be so cute, but now it just looks total mess. The same guy doing the same thing can actually trigger completely different feelings in a women's mind. Plus, after having children, husbands simply become resources provider to ensure the kids survive. So husbands get sidelined and everything becomes about looking after the kids. If you can't help, you are in the way and the gentle wife is a thing of the past. Now the husband has to face a ticking time bomb of a shrew.

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If you think being motherly is a woman's nature, think again, because being motherly is reserved exclusively for her offsprings, not for her husbands. Imagine the shock husbands must feel seeing the before and after of their wives, with and without kids and women. If we can't understand our husbands, like why they are talking to us like that, just look at how we talk to our kids. Do you see the similarity? Like a husband like giving us commands and then never listen to our emotions or feelings and compassion, always eager to jump in the solution. That is exactly what we do to our kids. Why is that? Because we see our offsprings as our responsibilities. That's why we naturally want to prevent them from having any dangers or encountering problems. So our tendency to shout at our kids is because we love them so much. We want to make sure they are doing the right thing. Similarly, husbands' tendencies to shout at their wives or to offer solutions immediately is because they care about their wives so much. They want to ensure their wives are safe and away from danger.

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Alright now, moving on to the last part. So what are the tips we can learn from this book? Here it comes to 9 tips from the book on how to use our husbands correctly to make ourselves the happiest wives. First, accept all the shortcomings of their expect, which includes inability to fear our feelings, eagerness to solve our problems, failure to hear what we are telling them, lack in compassion and lack of compassion Just let it be, except who he is.

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Second, standardize how you want them to respond to you in words and how you would like them to celebrate any special occasions. So be clear and standardize it. For example, if you just want to complain about something and you don't need your husband to offer a solution, you can tell them straight up and say hey, I just want to complain right now. Others hear me out what I have to say, but I don't want you to give me any solutions or any comments. Usually they will be like OK, sure, no problem. Standardize it how you would like them to respond to you. Or you can tell them on every single anniversary, we will go to a five-star hotel to have our nice meal. Ok, I don't need you to do anything else, just go and reserve a restaurant at a five-star hotel, got it? I'm sure your husband will be like yeah, got it. Because men's brain likes standard, they like routine To them. You know that's a breath of freshness. They know what to do now. So standardize how you want them to respond to you and how you would like them to celebrate every single occasion with you. Like I told my husband like can you please buy me some skincare products from airport once, and then, from that point onward, every single time he travels, he will always buy me skincare products, even if I told him I don't need it anymore. I only have one face. I have many skincare products that I need. But he will be like but you haven't got this brand, let me get it for you. Oh, how sweet.

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Third, if you want to talk to your husband, treat him like a robot and activate his talking mode correctly. And this is what you need to do with a husband robot, you need to first enter his vision zone and call his name to activate him. Second, wait for two to three seconds for him to load up his system. Third, talk slowly at first. Then, when his system gains momentum, you can resume your usual speed. Four, structure your sentences in a way he can understand, unless you tell him otherwise beforehand. Structure your sentences in his default way Conclusion first, numbers first, and be clear about what you want him to do. Like I don't have a conclusion yet, but I just want you to hear me out, got it? These are the ways to talk to our husbands. Treat them like a talking robot, then you will be fine.

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Fourth, don't try to read between the lines with your husband, because usually there's nothing there. So you know, as wives, sometimes we get a bit sensitive and we overthink. Sometimes, like, if the husband says they're only two dishes, the wives might think I am so busy today and I managed to squeeze out some time to cook. Are you saying two dishes are not good enough for you? Am I not doing well as a wife? Are you complaining about me? But the author says men usually don't think that much and they say there are only two dishes. That means that is all he's getting for food. Once you confirm to him, he will just go and get his bowl of rice and then start to eat with those two dishes. There is nothing more to what he says. It's just exactly what he says. So, wives, let's not overthink. We're overanalyze what our husband said. Just take it as it is, from the face value. Fifth, we're ignited love for your husbands by assigning chores and dividing tasks clearly. Again, men love routine and clear responsibilities. But we have to admit household is usually not his domain to know what to do. So if you can assign him a specific task and say from now on, this is your responsibility, you'll be surprised how excellent your husband can do.

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The author shared a story of a friend. She said usually it's the wife who goes out for grocery shopping. So she has to prepare, making sure there is enough stock inventory for coffee, tea, milk, toilet paper, et cetera, so about a dozen items. So wife usually just manage it from her brain, from her memory of what it's been needed at home. But from time to time she will still miss out some items and suddenly they will either run out of ketchup or having too much toilet paper. So the friend actually said to her husband and said from now on you are tasked to manage our inventory. And surprisingly the husband organized the kitchen shelf neatly and even labeled each drawers, managing everything efficiently, and he even introduced an app to just manage the inventory. So whenever the wife goes on shopping, she can just pull out the app and see what items are lacking, what items she needs to top up and then tick it off whenever she bought them. The wives were so surprised, and obviously pleasantly surprised. So the author suggests this wives don't give up on your husband. A lot of time they don't help you with their housework it's because they don't know what you want them to do. But if you can assign a specific task to them, you will be surprised how well they excel.

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Six don't be a perfect wife or a superwoman. Show your vulnerability to your husband as adaptable women. Even though we are capable of doing all things, remember vulnerability brings intimacy. It won't hurt to let our husbands know they are chores we really need them to help us with. We can say, oh, I just cannot figure this out or oh, it hurts, could you please help me with this thing? You know, if we can strategically show our vulnerability and playfully seeking attention, it can really enhance our communication and connections with our husbands, because it subtly conveys to the husband that my wife really needs me. Our vulnerability gives our husband's room to fill the gaps for us and validates his importance to us and enhances our intimacy.

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Point seven men fear losing rejection and losing faith. Words are our weapons as wives, to get our men more fired up to do things for us. Remember, wives, our words are our weapons, as long as you don't overuse it, of course. If you can tell your husband from time to time oh, thank you so much, dear, for helping me. You are so wonderful. How could I live without you? I am sure your husband will be so happy to hear this from you and he will want to do more for you.

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The author shares actually a funny story. Even as a scientist and a successful entrepreneur, she always asked her husband to change lightbulbs. It's just something she tasked her husband to do. If her husband only returns at nine, she will wait. So the husband used to tell the wife, like what would you do if I weren't here? And the wife would say, oh, that's why you need to live a long life. But once they entered this LED era, she realized they haven't changed a lightbulb for the past 20 years. So now it's a question of whether the LED light will give out first or the husband.

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Question number eight don't seek approval or encouragement from your husbands if you want to try something new. If you want to try something new, just do it, because husbands naturally worry about their wives. We are their responsibilities, so it's natural for them to feed off any of our ideas of things we want to do. Sometimes you want to seek encouragement because you also feel a little bit anxious. You want him to tell you like honey, don't worry, everything will be okay, just do it. You know, don't be afraid. But in reality, our husbands are likely to just say no, Not because he doesn't want you to grow or try new things, but because he worries about you. Remember, it's their tendency to protect this. So in this case, if it's not a big deal, then just do it. And if you really want to discuss it with him, make sure you only bring up the positive points, not the negative.

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And I found this is so true because you know I have been driving for the past 10 years. I can drive confidently anywhere. However, every time when we relocate to a new place, my husband would always say, like the traffic here is too bad, don't drive. If you need, just take a taxi. Like he really didn't want me to drive when we moved to Riyadh. I mean, I have to admit, the traffic in Riyadh is really crazy. It's like the craziest I have ever seen. But I still got to drive right. I got kids, I need to fetch them, I need to collect them, I need to drop them. So, without asking my husband, I just did it.

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And after I demonstrated I could do it once, my husband kind of just let me be. He would just say, like, whatever you do your thing, and before I feel, you know, it's kind of sad when I hear my husband say I give up on you, I just let you be. And now I'm just like, because I know like it just means he's relaxed, he knows I can do it and he won't stop me from doing it. So another tip for all the wives right, if you want to do something new, just do it. Right, your husband will naturally feed all you out. That is also natural for him. But you know, just go and try and do it as long as it's not a big deal, right. Number nine last but not least all wives should have the right expectation. There is no need for spouses to always agree, and we should not judge our love or measure our love by whether we and our husbands agree on something or not, because this is just not going to happen. So these are the nine points I got from the book that I believe will really really help us, as wives, to have a good marriage, a good relationships with our husbands. Alright, now finally, here are my thoughts.

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This book made me laugh so much when I was reading it and narrates the hardships that all wives, or even husbands, have gone through in such a funny way that it's really hard not to feel resonated with. That's exactly what happened between me and my husband a lot of the times Before. I really thought these conflicts were just between me and my husband, like unique to us because of his personality, because of his characters. But this book has made me realize there are some fundamental differences between male and female brains. Sometimes it's just impossible to agree on things, but you know that's okay. As long as we respect each other's specs, like how different we are built, and understand how he expresses his love and read his love language correctly, I believe we can continue to deepen our relationship together. Perhaps I need surprises or romantic acts from time to time, but I should not dismiss his love towards me by working to support the family or continuously buying me skincare products, even if I clearly have an overstock and only one face. But that's his love language, right? His love is expressed in every single day of his act of services, and we, as wives or me really should not overreact to his words, because he often just doesn't mean anything else apart from the words that he spit out.

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I particularly love this quote that the author uses to conclude her book. It goes Instead of seeing the husband as an extension of a romantic relationship, view him as an integral element of the family. Transform the glow of romance into the bond among family members. The irreplaceable of family will eventually morph into your love for your husband. It's neither sweet nor dazzling, but simply sincere and profound. This is the true face of marriage, a time only spouses can share. Don't let the marriage you worked hard to attain slowly decay by chasing after things that don't exist. Don't measure love by gentle and considerate words where actively noticing and helping you out.

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The key is to find a way to live well. All marriages are undoubtedly supported by the wisdom and effort of women. As I wrote in the first chapter, the inherent differences between men and women are trying to separate couples in this world. You are not the only one who sometimes feel utterly annoyed with your husband, but let's all strive together to become happy. So, before you give up on your husband and are just ready to chuck him away, give him and yourself another chance. By understanding how his brain is wired and have the sincere desire to build intimate relationship together, your marriage will possess a special shine of its own. And remember, the next man will not necessarily be better. Alright. So this is today's episode on the book with Bubba T, if you enjoy it. If you would like to have more insights from great East Asian books, please follow us, and now we also have a YouTube channel. You can easily subscribe there. Okay, that's it for today, and let's continue to drink our bubble tea, learn and grow together. See you next time. Bye.