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Eating Wild
Hosted by three hunting and fishing buddies with a lifetime of culinary experience between them, Outdoor Journal Radio's Eating Wild podcast brings folks from all walks of life to the boat, tree stand, and kitchen to tell the stories and answer the questions around the pursuit and preparation of wild fish and game.
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Episode 66: The 4 Skins Are Back!!
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Ever wondered how chaotic a shop relocation could get or what a fishing trip in Portugal entails? Join us on this special reunion episode of the Eating Wild podcast, where the original gang is back together! Daniel "Hookset" Martins and Luis "Top Dog" Pereira fill us in on their summer escapades, including Luis's whirlwind move and his adventures across the Atlantic. With fall just around the corner, we reminisce about our journey filled with trials, laughs, and heartwarming camaraderie, setting the stage for our highly anticipated fall trip.
What happens when a fishing enthusiast gets roped into officiating a wedding in Mexico? You'll find out as we recount Manny Muskie's unconventional fishing techniques and share behind-the-scenes stories from major film projects with Netflix, Amazon, Hallmark, and Disney. Plus, get a glimpse into the sheer scale of a colossal YouTube production that involved thousands of crew members and countless trucks. The balance between our demanding professional lives and personal escapades has never been more vivid or entertaining.
In the final segment, we discuss the exciting musky brawl event and debate the joys of bass versus muskie fishing. With a blend of fishing tips, humorous anecdotes, and a touch of friendly rivalry, this episode promises to keep you hooked from start to finish. Get ready for a rollercoaster of stories, laughter, and anticipation as we gear up for more wild adventures together.
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Speaker 2Welcome back to another episode of the Eating Wild podcast. I'm your host, Antonio Smash. I'm like a co-host in studio again. Christopher Showtime Johnson. What Say what? I'm back. You're back in studio, buddy. I'm getting used to this. Every week you come in here, you're obviously working in the Hamilton area.
Speaker 1Yes, pretty pumped up that you're here, bud, I'm pumped up, man. End of summer, guess what's around the corner? Oh boy, palisades, it's Pop Fest, pop Fest. You know what we're going to do, right, everything big, everything, big, big or nothing? Yeah, we're going to go for big. What bucks?
Speaker 2Big fish, fish, big bucks, big dudes. You know, pardon, what was that? What you said big big. What I said big fish, big bucks. You know? Okay, yeah, I thought you said dudes. This is really weird, I'm saying we're gonna be with the dude.
Speaker 1Oh, I got you. Yes, yes, yes. Speaking of the dudes, yes, I got news for you, brother. Another surprise from antonio go ahead.
Speaker 2This is surprise. Okay, we've been talking about this all summer long. We've been saying you know, I miss Hookset, I miss Top Dog Pereira.
Speaker 1Yes, man, you know, you mean the other two skins of the four skins, the four skins the originators of the Eating Wild podcast.
Speaker 2You know, I was thinking to myself.
Speaker 1I'm like are these guys ever going to come back to the Eating Wild podcast studio when you're here? Yeah, but the thing is they're busy, tom. Yeah, I know Lou's really busy.
Speaker 6Yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, but soon we're going to be going on a fall trip.
Speaker 2So fall trip's coming, but I got news brother. What's up what.
Speaker 1What? Hello, wait a minute. Is this called waiting?
Speaker 6Who the hell's that? What? Hey, hey boys Guess who's back?
Speaker 5Guess who Welcome. Welcome to another.
Speaker 1Oh, ladies and gentlemen, the other two skins of the four skins we got Daniel Hooks at Martins and Luis Top Dog Pereira.
Speaker 2In the studio.
Speaker 6We're back boys, we are back, back In action, yeah, action.
Speaker 1You guys look well rested.
Speaker 6Super rested. You had a great summer Dan looks like a walking zombie, I'll be honest.
Speaker 5First thing Steve says when I walked in he's like what the hell is happening.
Speaker 6Did you lose more hair? Oh boy.
Speaker 1He is a workaholic, why would you?
Speaker 3even say that.
Speaker 1Oh man, halifaxia is a disease man. Oh boy.
Speaker 2That, oh boy, that's a disease, mister, you don't bring that up again, okay, top Dog.
Speaker 6Sorry man, this guy's been working hard, man he has man and I've been hardly working. Let's hear the stories.
Speaker 2Oh, buddy.
Speaker 1What do we start with? Hold on.
Speaker 2Let's just start with Top Dog for a second, because I have a problem with him. First of all, he's been back in town for a few weeks. Okay, hey guys, I'm back. Let's get the mics going. You've had a tornado, and I say tornado because that was the word you used when you dropped back from the wedding which we'll talk about. I called you, I'm like Luis, you're like listen, man, don't talk to me about the podcast, Don't talk to me about fishing, hunting, nothing. I'm in a tornado, I'll talk to you tomorrow.
Speaker 5Luis's tornado is like a brisk wind compared to mine.
Speaker 1We're going to have a tornado off now. Who had the worst tornado this summer of the two?
Speaker 2skins. So I'm going to start. The audience knew that. You know, come the beginning of the summer that Lou was heading to Portugal. We talked about it, yeah, and I guess the journey started there and let's talk about before. Leading up to Portugal, you had to move your shop.
Speaker 6Oh man, yeah, up the Portugal you had to move your shop. Oh man, yeah, we, we, I had to uh renew my, my lease, and my landlord uh kind of screwed me. So I w I went on a a little rampage there of finding a new unit and within two months we basically uh found a new place and put down uh, some dough and and and just dough, and just tried to make it happen. But we're still going through it. I mean, we've moved shops since then, and thank God, because I don't know if you guys remember that we had a huge flood in Mississauga, right? So my first shop just got completely flooded, my showroom just became a disaster. But you weren't there, right? No, I was in Portugal when the flood happened.
Speaker 5But you were still operating out of that place. We were still operating.
Speaker 6And my brother sends me a message. He's like dude, there's water coming in the shop. Oh my God, and I'm on the beach right.
Speaker 1There's water on my toes for a little bit.
Speaker 6I'm like it's okay, man, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it, it's okay.
Speaker 1We're going to leave soon, yeah.
Speaker 6And then about two hours later he sends me another picture and there was like the Credit River coming through the back and right out the front door and thank goodness everyone was there to pick stuff up off the floor. But tell you what? We had another flood since then. Or Mississauga had another huge rain downpour and that shop got flooded again. And I spoke to some of my old neighbors there and they said that the second time was worse than the first time. I'm like, oh my goodness, thank God we left.
Speaker 5You know what quick story. I was walking my dogs over the bridge beside Glen Abbey, over Glen Abbey Golf Course, and you look down in the golf course and I'm not even kidding it looked like the Mississippi River ran right through the course. The trees were like nine, 10, 12 feet high trees and the water was right at the top of these trees. Yeah, how is that?
Speaker 6possible. I haven't seen rain like this around here in my whole life. I've lived here basically my whole life.
Speaker 5I'm still trying to deal with my basement?
Speaker 2Yeah, I mentioned on the podcast.
Speaker 1I don't know if you guys heard it about.
Speaker 2Dan's basement when it happened. Oh right, we were talking. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1Dan was almost going to come to do the podcast with us.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, and he was like Tone my basement's underwater, yeah.
Speaker 1Well, it's been a wet summer. I don't even know the last time I watered the grass and I'm a grass guy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5You guys use the sprinklers a lot this summer. We have our irrigation up in my house and it looks like the grass is dying because it's too much water.
Speaker 1Oh right, yeah, you can overwater.
Speaker 2Dan, you have a pool like I do. How many times did I call you and say my pool's green. I don't know what to do because I'm a new pool owner and forget the cottage because I wasn't even there, so I don't even rain. The pool was like green and you're always okay. Liquid Dan's like you got to get the liquid chlorine and shock it. And you'd shock it. Next thing, you know, the next day it's green again and the water's flowing over the top. That's the problem.
Speaker 5Obviously, it's not a pool podcast, but it's all about balance and stuff like that.
Speaker 2Let's talk about that.
Speaker 1Let's not Our listeners are listening right now and they'll be like, oh, poor these guys.
Speaker 6They're cool and they're grass Over Glen Abbey. Listen, man, I didn't take a couple months off to come back and talk to you guys.
Speaker 1Oh, here we go, here we go.
Speaker 2Listen, man. So you're in Portugal and you mentioned to me you were going to do some really cool stuff for content, but you're there with the family anyways.
Speaker 6Yeah, yeah, it was a big family trip. My wife's got her sister there and her family, my in-laws are there. They have a nice place just off the coast and it's a really interesting area of a town called Avedu and you basically have the ocean that cuts in to the land and it turns into brackish water. It's where the salt water turns basically into fresh water and then goes back out into brackish water. It's where the salt water turns basically into fresh water and then goes back out into the ocean again, but the tides move up so much. So this little area that we're in, you can go clam fishing in the mud. I don't know if we've ever talked about this in the podcast before, but I love it, man. You go there with a little spear and you find all these little pinholes in the mud. You spray a little salt water there, they come up, you spear them, take them out and then you're making a beautiful dish for lunch Clams Casino right on the beach. That's it. That's it.
Speaker 6But no man, portugal was great. You know. Long story short. I didn't do much fishing but traveled a lot with the family and it was just a good time to get away from work and all the other stuff that's going on in life and just relax and reset.
Speaker 1I'll tell you. I talked to Lou before he went to Portugal and he had a lot of fires to put out before Portugal, so he was a little under the stress, a little bit. Then I happened to call him about three weeks in and on WhatsApp, and it was a different Lou. Hey, siege, how's it going man?
Speaker 3I'm just like oh, I'm doing good man. I'm like what are you doing?
Speaker 1He's like ah, you know, I just went for a bike ride, got my morning coffee. The kids and I are doing a little bit of fishing. I'm like who?
Speaker 4is this guy.
Speaker 5You know what I mean? He was just.
Speaker 1It was like it was Portugal was his therapy. I want to go now.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was therapy, but when you landed you were on the plane a week later, right?
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2You're off with the. Was it the boys trip to Dominican or was it to Mexico?
Speaker 6No, no, no. As soon as we came back from Portugal, we, you know I'm settling in with work, but I had a week later. I went out for a cousin's wedding. Carla, she's not blood cousin, we call it, you know how it is. You call it cousin, primo, primo right, it's Primo Right. But we went out for a really close friend's wedding and, funny story, I was the officiant for this wedding. What Can you believe that, lou?
Speaker 5What is?
Speaker 6that.
Speaker 1Where in the?
Speaker 2clock. I've been at a wedding overseas with Lou before Our buddy James got married. Oh boy, and I'll tell you right now, you get this guy a few gin and tonics in. I'll tell you right now, you don't have to pay big bucks for an MC, a DJ and a karaoke machine. I would pay big bucks to have Lou do that. That sounds amazing, though. So were you hired or did they?
Big Production Behind the Scenes
Speaker 6just tell you this is not for hire folks, so nobody get any ideas. It's probably never going to happen again, but I did it for Carla and the family and it was fun times. Let me tell you I can't wait to see video of this?
Speaker 1Don't you need a?
Speaker 5license for that or something.
Speaker 6Yeah, by the power invested in me in Mexico, mexico.
Speaker 5Like an online thing printed on a napkin.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's awesome man, I didn't know, probably not even really married. Now how did you say you may now kiss the bride? Just say all right, guys, let's start making out, let's go listen, I didn't want to screw it up.
Speaker 6I told her don't let me wing this because you're gonna regret it.
Speaker 3So she wrote everything down, right I read it I just read it.
Speaker 6That was it. That's amazing, and they're still married, so it's good.
Speaker 2Holy smoke. So you're back. You come back from that. So is that Manny Muskie's?
Speaker 6Manny. Muskie's daughter, that's right, no way, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, crazy man yeah.
Speaker 2That guy knows he's a stick and he's got a beautiful family.
Speaker 6He actually one night care of me because I think some of us had a little too much fun that night and you had to walk me back to my room.
Speaker 2No way, he's a good old man, not Lou do you, manny, drove you back to your room yeah, I wasn't feeling good.
Speaker 6You know I ate something, I was just. Can I just narrate this whole walk?
Speaker 2for you, and I'm gonna be Manny Muskie. Hey, louise, listen man, you guys catch bike with all these fancy lures. All you need is a dinger.
Speaker 1Why does he sound like the godfather? I got a 42.
Speaker 2Because, listen man, the last time I saw Manny Muskie was at his camp, I think it was your father's birthday, the surprise party we had, dan was with me and I remember your buddy showed up with all these crazy muskie lures that he made us right. Yeah, your buddy showed up with all these crazy muskie lures that he made us right. Yeah, Georgian Bay.
Speaker 6Lure Company. I think it's called Georgian Bay Bucktails.
Speaker 2Bucktails, brandon. So he's showing off. See, imagine this. This guy shows up on a bike and he's on his bicycle. And he shows up and we're all there and he's showing us all these really crazy wicked like muskie baits and Manny's looking and he's shaking his head. I'm like what's the problem? Manny Muskie? Yeah, you guys spent too much money on it. You don't need any of that to catch him. I caught a Muskie yesterday on this beautiful lure. It's old school. So Manny Muskie is old school, but this guy pops yeah, he does.
Speaker 6He pops. What's that? Spinner bait. He uses all the time the grinder and the gambler, the gambler.
Speaker 1Sorry, the gambler you don't need to spend money, boys. Those are two great lures, though, when you think about it. The pink gambler yeah that's right.
Speaker 6Oh yeah, that's a little flap tail. That must have been a trip of a lifetime. Yeah, that was fun, man. It was good. Good memories Great. What about Hookset? Where's he been? I?
Speaker 2was going to just say. Now, on the other side of the mic Hookset this guy. It was almost impossible to even get him on the phone. There was a stretch where I didn't talk to Dan for almost a week and I'm like something's wrong.
Speaker 6What kills me is that I was actually away, but this guy didn't go anywhere Exactly. So what's his?
Speaker 2problem. Well, listen, we talked about it, siege, because we were on the mic and we're. You know, we always talked about the boys and dan, you were in some serious, serious like trenches. Yeah, we got busy fast. You got busy fast and I mean we can't really talk about much of it because of the ndas you sign. I'm sure every day you're signing ndas, but you run some pretty big feature films this, this, this summer big feature films.
Speaker 5I actually had to cancel my portugal trip this year. We're gonna go with the family in august and I had to cancel my Portugal trip this year. We were going to go with the family in August and I had to cancel it because it just got too much. It's too much and yeah, big, big, big, big shows and a lot of trucks and a lot of shows period. The industry just blew up.
Speaker 2And we're talking. When we talk big shows, we're talking Netflix, we're talking Amazon, hallmark.
Speaker 5Yeah, we even did some Disney stuff.
Speaker 1I heard maybe a big YouTuber as well, the biggest.
Speaker 5Yeah, you got to tell us some stuff I'm not going to say who it was, but I guess everyone can figure it out which just wrapped recently.
Speaker 6The YouTuber. Is that a Mrs, or is that a Mr?
Speaker 5I don't know. It's someone on YouTube.
Speaker 6Mr.
Speaker 1Monster.
Speaker 5And it was a big, big, big big YouTube production with Amazon and it just wrapped and we're talking the biggest thing we've ever done.
Speaker 1That's crazy to hear that a big production is coming up like YouTube. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5Yeah Well, this guy's big enough to have a production behind him like Amazon Right, and he'll get the ratings. And that's what Amazon wants and Netflix wants that too. Every production wants that.
Speaker 2So picture this you feed, let's say, 100 people, 150 people On an average show On an average show. It's hard work, man. That's a full team. They're dedicated to that crew every day. There was days where we're talking thousands, thousands of people.
Speaker 5So we have 26 trucks now, and we had at one point, I think it was like 23 out every day. Yeah, it's nuts. It was crazy. It was crazy. It's probably like the most ever in the industry. It's insane. And the average show, like Antonio was saying, is like 100 people. We'll do 85, right, 150 is a decent day and this show that we just finished up had 2,000 a day. Wow, do you know how much pop and water that is? It was skids, guys.
Speaker 2That's like your trucks have just skids of pop and water going to sites every day there was a day I called Dan and he's like there's maybe 12 skids coming in here to the shop right now. I can't talk. We got to unload these skids of pop and water and juice and whatever.
Speaker 5There's 22 skids every week of just pop. That's crazy.
Speaker 2And imagine that. So you have out of the 23 trucks. How many trucks then were on just that one feature?
Speaker 5Well, we started off with three and then we went up to eight and then it's 24 hours, so they would come back. We'd have to rotate. It was a 24 hour operation for seven days a week and it lasted. I believe this is like week 12. So, yeah, it was eight trucks at one point, which fed 2000 people.
Speaker 2And when you say fed, this is 24 hours. So imagine this you got breakfast, you got your substantial, which is like a snack. Then you got lunch, then you got to yeah, you got your substantial, which is like a snack, then you got lunch, then you got to do it all over again. So every nine hours, see, you're popping food. Like, like, think of, think of how the managing that hook set had to do because he's not out there cooking anything, right, you can't like you who's out there, it's almost like the quarterback. Right, you get into the huddle it's like, okay, you're doing this're doing this, you're running here, you're doing this. So he had to do that for 3,000, 2,000 people. Just on one show we had 20, no 16 other trucks going out feeding 80 to 100 people a day. So the math you're what? 5,000 people a day. We were between 4,000 and 5,000 people per day.
Speaker 1That's crazy, that's like a concert. When you guys told me when I got first introduced to you guys in your business I just thought you fed actors. So I'm thinking show has how many actors? 20 actors. I didn't know it was background lighting, crew, crew, yeah, and that's crazy Directors.
Speaker 5And then it's the phone calls. Jesus, when you have this many shows, it's this many problems, right.
Speaker 1Were they eating a lot of elk sliders or Venison, or was it Just Feed them?
Speaker 6Gaming I think a lot of those people are allergic to elk.
Speaker 5Yeah.
Speaker 1No bison sliders. They'd make up a story somewhere where they're allergic to something.
Speaker 2So Hooks, that's been in the trenches, it's finally coming now.
Speaker 5You said that they actually just announced the winner of that show, which I can't really say that's right, but it was the biggest grand prize ever announced in the history of the world, history of film, everything. So it was like a game show I guess we could say, guys, this guy won the lottery. So they started with 2,000 contestants, they went down to 1,000. Then they kept going slower, smaller and smaller. And yesterday, this morning, was the winner this morning, and this guy won the lottery.
Speaker 1Was it a guy or girl? I don't know. I don't know how much did the winner win. I do know. Good question.
Speaker 5I don't even know if I could say that you can say how much they won. Okay, let's say it's more than four and less than six Million.
Speaker 2Five, five, five million dollars. This guy won five, or girl won five million dollars From a game show.
Speaker 5Basically, this person won five million beans.
Speaker 6From a game show.
Speaker 5From a game show.
Speaker 6Yeah, I don't think I've ever heard of any game show.
Speaker 5No, it's the biggest in the world, Luis.
Speaker 1Biggest one ever you know what's crazy is when I think of the show alone, they're only making $100,000 for the winner.
Speaker 3And they're out there.
Speaker 5Those people are dying.
Speaker 1They're eating berries and bark.
Speaker 5So I went to set up, yeah for 100 Gs. We had to go to set a couple times just to see. And you got to see this set. It's incredible. The set's something I've never seen and I've been on the Star Trek Enterprise guys. I was beamed up. John Luke Picard yeah.
Speaker 6I was beamed up. You got beamed up.
Speaker 2I got beamed up. We're be. Tone was there with me and Chef Greg was there with me.
Speaker 5So this one, this set, was, first of all, it was like 40 acres worth of property where just sets and houses were built because contestants have to live on set and the contestants had to live on set.
Speaker 6Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's why I had to feed them 24 hours.
Speaker 5It's 24 hours, man. Where else are they going to go? That's interesting, holy moly.
Speaker 2If you think of a loan siege, like you just said, those are 24 hours. Yeah, think of Big Brother shows like that. It's 24 hours. The camera's always rolling. So if you watch any of those, okay, we're not going to talk about a loan because everyone's secluded and they had to film. There's people behind those cameras constantly editing. There's directors, they're setting up. So while they're filming on those 40 acres, there's a crew setting up the next day and those people have to eat. They got to drink, they got to do all that stuff.
Speaker 1I actually can't wait for that show now. Yeah, me too. So we say dance in the trenches, but I guess you're in good trenches for a business guy, like it wasn't bad trenches.
Speaker 6Business wise was fantastic. Yeah, that's good to hear. So in other words, you're rich now, oh yeah, can I borrow?
Speaker 5Super rich. Okay, I will sponsor the whole podcast.
Speaker 1Oh, we got a new sponsor.
Speaker 2This is brought to you by Hookset Martins.
Speaker 6ladies and gentlemen, I've been away for a while and I've heard some great news, man.
Speaker 2Can we talk about it? The boys are back. See we got to fill them in now.
New Sponsorships and Potential Partnerships
Speaker 1What the hell is going on We've had some phenomenal guests. I wish you were here for a lot of them, but we get it and we've had people reach out to us, some excellent sponsors that we've been doing business with for many years, and I'll let you go ahead on the first one there.
Speaker 2Well, the first one was a guy that Daniel and I has known for years. This guy started up as a sales rep for Gordon Food Service back in the day, back when Dan was. It was just catering. We didn't even have a craft service company and I'm not going to mention his name. But this particular sales rep has moved on. He's become a rep for a very, very popular in-home. You know where you can purchase food at your local grocery store, walmart, etc.
Speaker 2Yeah, big retail division Big retail division and we were happy for him. We're, like you know, congratulations. You know, gfs was more targeted towards the restaurant industry or food service industry and he moved up. So he just dropped in a few times and there was one point where he was selling 5,000 pounds of brisket and I remember calling Dan because we were. He just moved into Rangeview at our other shop and I was like what can we do with 5,000 pounds? And it was just too much. We didn't have the freezer space, refrigeration space, and it was just in purchasing in bulk Stuff that might have. The expiry date was coming up and in grocery stores there has to be a certain label or a certain date that you can serve to the general public without it spoiling. Then you got to freeze it. So he had all these deals going on.
Speaker 2There was one day he walked in the shop just recently and the timing couldn't have been perfect, and he asked me if we were interested in purchasing some bacon and I said, well, you know, we, we sell a lot of bacon on set and we just started talking and then the outdoors came up. Man, it was just. It was just one of those things where, like you know the podcast and we're with you know, odj, and this is what we do. And I said would you be interested in, you know, teaming up with the eating wild podcast? This is what we do. We're food, like you got to think about it there. So we're talking about lou's kitchen, okay, and it's perfect, because we got lose a jerk right in front of me.
Speaker 1So lose sponsoring the show.
Speaker 4It's not lose not wait a sec no, no, no hold on.
Speaker 6So we got. Dan saw a logo somewhere of lou's kitchen. Yes, lose, and it's not mine.
Speaker 2No, it's not your, it's not your logo, man, but you will see this logo everywhere you go. If you go into the grocery stores, they do prepared meals.
Speaker 6I've noticed it now. Yep, they do prepared foods.
Speaker 2And they got brisket, they got teriyaki, chicken salmon, they got bacon. It's all packaged stuff for people that don't have much time to cook. They go home, they heat it up and you have a family meal like that, buddy.
Speaker 1My family's been using it before the sponsorship. They have a really good Philly steak and all my wife pretty much had to do was heat it up. And we have four of us in our house, all sandwiches, beautiful. And that's before I heard we had a podcast or a sponsorship with them.
Speaker 2They've been around for ages and so we teamed up with them. It's just a foot in the door, something small. We're using them for the musky brawl.
Speaker 6So Lou's Kitchen is one of our new sponsors.
Speaker 2Lou's Kitchen is now teamed up with the Eating Wild podcast and the relationship has just started, luis. But I will tell you this right now it will go a long way because we are perfect. Our listeners, it's families, it's people that want prepared food and prepared meats and stuff that you can just heat up and serve. And again, you can find this stuff in any grocery store chain. You know what's good about this stuff, tony, sorry.
Speaker 5Go ahead Is if you are going on a trip where you go to your grocery store, you buy a couple packs of these products and it's good to go. It's so easy, you don't have to slave over it, you don't have to do anything.
Speaker 2You heat her up and you go, and we brought it to our ice fishing trip once, exactly Without them sponsoring us. We had it in our freezer when he gave us a bunch of samples and stuff. Yes, yeah.
Speaker 5And four, five, six people in your hunt camp, Didn't?
Speaker 6we eat. That was delicious.
Speaker 2That was delicious, all you have to pack is the buns Pretty much.
Speaker 5That's it.
Speaker 2It's microwavable, you heat it in a pot with water, it's easy to go. Yeah, the one thing I would say about Luz that for us so back to what Dan and I do is, again, we serve mass amount of numbers. So, like their packaging is more targeted for family of four, family of six, maybe even two, so I mean for our listeners, siege, it could have been a better company to team up with.
Speaker 2So and then, after it's so funny, once we got them on board, siege called me up and somebody else was knocking on the door.
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Speaker 6Hey, welcome, welcome back. It's Antonio Smash Malacca, how you doing.
Speaker 5You should have said more like I don't sound like that.
Speaker 6You know what I love, man? I love that while I was away I got a lot of messages, a lot of love from people online saying hey, man, I miss you. On the podcast it's not the same. No one's chirping smash.
Speaker 2And this is a true story. I can back this up. I can back this up because me and Lou just went to a beautiful show this past weekend and I don't know if we could say the name of the show. Yeah, you can. The Tactical Show, what's? It called TacCon.
Speaker 6See, do you know it?
Speaker 1Tacom, tacom, tacom, show Tacom.
Speaker 2And Amanda Lynn Mayhew was there, sweetheart.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, sweetheart.
Speaker 2She hooked me and blew up bracelets for the kids and air fresheners for the car.
Speaker 6Oh, I love her air freshener. It smells like forest air freshener, pine and dirt.
Speaker 5I don't know how to explain it. I got one for you. It's in the car. It smells great. It's weird that I like the smell of like dirt yeah.
Speaker 6She told me she's like, it smells like dirt. I go. What do you mean? It smells like dirt.
Speaker 5It's like old leather smell. I like that.
Speaker 2It was great. It was also great to meet a fan of the Eating Wild podcast. Oh yeah, my buddy, brian. Brian, you're a beauty, and, uh, you know what the problem is with Brian, though, yeah, tell everyone. When I met Brian, he told me to my face the show isn't the same. I'm sick and tired of hearing Showtime and smash his voices and, where the hell is, lou and hooks at.
Speaker 1I got the same messages on Instagram. What's your problem, man? No, from Lou's cousins. Hey man, where's Lou? I'm like you're his cousin.
Speaker 2What did you find out? Where's Lou?
Speaker 6folks Louie's dad texted me that oh boy, I can't hear this. It's good to be back.
Speaker 1When's the last time we fished together, boys, oh man.
Speaker 2Me and Dan did a one during the craziness we got out for.
Speaker 2It was almost a maintenance drive just to go check on our boat. Poor boat, poor boat. Batteries were dead. Anyone who wants to buy a boat contact Siege. Slide it in the ground. We got out there for maybe an hour or two and we didn't see any. I got one bass. I got a bass and it was just nice to get out for a few hours, to be honest. But more or less it was just to check on our boat. But, siege, we haven't been fishing together for a crappy trip.
Speaker 1I think I've been the most fishing out of this group all summer, I think oh yeah. I'm popping, but I can't wait for the four of us to get back.
Speaker 5I what a waste changing all my line this year.
Speaker 2Absolutely. I got to talk to Dan Cause it's so funny, dan. Dan was telling us all about the new stuff he was buying and then see different stuff. Siege is like why is he buying all this stuff if he's never going to use it?
Speaker 1I told him he needs to buy free time. It's half price right now Eating Wild Podcast Code 50 for free time, but he's a collector. He's a collector and maybe that will be worth money if he's still new in the box.
Speaker 2Dan's always the technical guy. We all know that we talk about it. I was telling.
Speaker 5Siege today on the way here that I like buying this stuff, just to look at it. I really do. I have my setup in the garage and in my basement I made a new hunting room, which is amazing.
Speaker 1It is nice, it looks nice. I love it.
Speaker 5Yeah, and it's all lined up and I look at the line all fresh and beautiful leaders tied on, no nicks anywhere. It's all clean and I'm like perfect.
Speaker 2That's why Dan hates me. Perfect, he can't stand when he looks at my gear. Hanging on the ceiling with lures still attached to it. Leaders are all fray boys, frayed line everywhere.
Speaker 6What are you doing with this? But hold on.
Speaker 2You know, what made my day Was when Dan lost a muskie. Was it a muskie on LSC? How?
Speaker 1could that make your?
Speaker 3day. No, you lost a fish man you did man?
Speaker 2You did On your own braid that you tied.
Speaker 5No it was your leader, so here's the thing. I love it.
Speaker 2It's true, because I didn't lose nothing, didn't lose nothing.
Speaker 5Just saying Go ahead. Here's a story we're starting now. Because of this, hold on. Because of that day, I will never buy another leader again. I'm going to be making my own going forward.
Speaker 5Hooks that takes. Right here folks. They use Hooks that takes right here folks. They use clamps on the leader and the clamp that I purchased at a specific I don't know what store it was. Actually it was somewhere where we went musky fishing. I'm not going to knock the store, it's not their fault. Got a strike, set the hook gone, opened up, lost my lure lost the fish lost, everything, everything's gone. What I did have was half the leader still with the clamp still on one end of the leader. So the clamp gave out.
Speaker 6So you actually could see that the line came out of that, of that clamp.
Speaker 5Yeah, that's right. It was on the main leader part and the loop was off. The crimp, the crimp clamp thingy yeah.
Speaker 1I want to know what brand this is, so I don't buy it man.
Speaker 5The problem is I threw the package in the garbage.
Speaker 6I think it was one of those local guys that made it.
Speaker 5I don't know, but those are usually pretty good.
Speaker 6Usually yeah.
Speaker 2Usually those musky guys know what they're doing Exactly. Was it LSC? Yeah, it was right. Yes, okay, because it was me. You just like what the hell just happened From now on.
Speaker 5I am never buying a leader. I'm going to make it myself. So I went in and bought 150 pound full of carbon and I'm doing a boatload of research on the best knots. I'm looking at guys fishing for 600 pound shark what leaders they use and knots. So I ended up using one that Pete Mania uses. If you can't go with him, jesus, that guy's the musky king, yeah. So that's what I'm going to try out this year. And I bought new swivels. I bought new of those clamp thingies, whatever they're called.
Speaker 6I just thought you said you don't like crimps. No no no, no, no, oh, lock swivels.
Speaker 5Snap swivels, yeah, but I don't like when the snap is attached to the swivel. The swivel's on one end and the snap's on the other end.
Speaker 2So you're tying line to Fluorocarbon to swivel, to swivel, exactly.
Speaker 1That story makes me sick to my stomach. I know Because you never know on LSE what fish that?
Speaker 5was, or what size it was, and you know what Sage, I'm pretty sure it was a 56-incher.
Speaker 6Oh, I'm glad you brought that up, because I'm going to go out to G-Bay this weekend for the first time in like two months, which sounds brutal. You mean all year. Yeah, pretty much. And Tone, you told me today what came out of G-Bay this last couple of days.
Speaker 2So I got a beautiful visit today from our friends at Campus, crew Tim, and we were talking and again he was like oh yeah, listen to the last part. He's actually up to the Frank and Chris episode with the Ugly Pike Boys and he sent me this article from this guy on Georgian Bay just recently caught a 56 and a quarter inch musky boy. Is that big Siege? I don't know. I can send you the link Siege, so you can share it to our listeners Great question.
Speaker 5Listen Lou To say well, it's a trophy, so so yeah, it's a big fish.
Speaker 2Is that six 56 and a quarter Siege and there's pictures I'm going to send it to you. It's on the bumper board it holding the whale. But again, we always talked about this lou. You took me to a few few spots. You know, snake island was one of the places that the first time I got to see.
Speaker 6I don't know why you're saying names. No, I don't know why we get the serpent island, serpent island, our north 35.
Speaker 1Okay, relax all right getting there, brought to you by antonio malecca listen, man.
Speaker 2Okay, I went fishing with lou. He took me to the island, we casted, we didn't catch anything. But I seen something that was incredible and he had a couple follow-ups, he had a couple strikes on his Medusa and, like you said, you never know what the hell that was. You have no idea. And when you see pictures like this you're losing your mind. And I know that's why guys say you know the heavy musky. Guys say, oh yeah, you know LSC. We don't want to fish LSC because you know it's like an aquarium, this and that, but Georgian Bay, you have to work for it but it produces massive fish.
Speaker 6You still got to work on LSC. Guys you do. How many times we've been to LSC? We get scum.
Speaker 5Exactly Lots of times.
Speaker 1It happens I.
Speaker 2Siege. You just went out recently to LSC with the champ and yeah, we got skunked.
Speaker 1We raised two fish. I had one on. It was a really bad hook set on my part. Yeah, cody told me about that. Oh, sounds about right. Yeah, but yeah, man, it happens.
Speaker 2Were you upset, siege I heard you almost pulled a tantrum.
Speaker 1I did. I think Cody saw a side of me that he's never seen before.
Speaker 2I'm sure he was so scared Siege. Yeah, he'll put you in an arm lock no no.
Speaker 6Did he curl up on the boat and say no Siege, you guys always know how it is.
Speaker 1Don't be mad. Oh man, I miss this Siege don't hurt me. I love how I can't finish the sentence. I miss this. I want Cody on here. I got to talk to him. You know how it is missing a bass it sucks. You know how it is missing a good Walter it sucks. When you miss a muskie, it's a different level.
Speaker 6You never know when you're going to get that. I think missing a muskie is probably the biggest heartache of all the fish, missing a muskie that you can't see.
Speaker 5If you can see it and you miss it at the net or something, okay, at least I've seen it, yeah, but when you can't see it, you always assume it's the record.
Speaker 1Of course it wasn't huge by any means. It came up because it's summertime, so they're going to pop up more right In the warm water, and it was a good. It wasn't even.
Speaker 2it was the tiger because it had a real dark back to Tiger King.
Speaker 1Oh really.
Speaker 6And we start a siege. I think you're onto something and it's all about tiger musky fishing.
Speaker 2Yes, oh, never been done. Don't Google it.
Speaker 1No other musky you know what we better edit this out, because someone's going to steal that idea. I'll call Netflix, call.
Speaker 5Yeah, you're tight with Netflix.
Speaker 2Hey guys, remember me, I got to tell you something. You're going to Georgian Bay. This is going to be great, but around the corner is big fish. We got smallies, we got footballs, nickels whatever you want to call them and boys, it's pop season. Brother, are you pumped?
Speaker 6That's why I'm not so bothered about fishing during July and August. Good point.
Speaker 2A lot of guys are like that by the way that we talk to.
Speaker 6I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 5I know I agree, Luis. The problem is not doing it for so long you get such an itch bite.
Speaker 6Buddy, we're rusty as Look. Siege missed a ski because he probably didn't set the hook properly because he hasn't been fishing much.
Speaker 1You know what? That's a great thing to say, lou, because I've been bass fishing all summer, so you know what I mean. But it's not a muskie, no, and that's what I mean. I said it like it was a bass.
Speaker 3That's what.
Speaker 1I'm saying I've been fishing it all summer. It's like riding a bike, guys.
Speaker 5Oh yeah, sure, here we go, here we go. He's pretty confident, hey, luke, yeah, yeah, he's a confident guy. I'll tell you right now I'll get the biggest musky on LSE this year.
Speaker 6Saying this from a guy that what you're saying, oh, that's a great thing to bring up. Are you entering the brawl?
Speaker 5One year I will find time to enter the brawl and I think it's amazing. But this year I don't think I can.
Speaker 1Should we talk about the brawl a little bit Lou. Speaking of the brawl, good question.
Speaker 2Eating Wild podcast, which will be the 50-inch platinum sponsor. That's what Dave Gray called us, by the way, I didn't make that up. Does that come with a trophy or something it might Siege? Best looking guy in town?
Speaker 1Oh, Lou is here. What Sorry, no Lou, Thanks Siege.
Speaker 2Anyways, listen, we're going to have Dave on soon. Guys, we have Dave Gray coming on very shortly to talk about the musky brawl. That guy is handsome man, he's gorgeous. Jesus, the chin on that guy, woo, when he puts his hair back like that. Okay, I mean what? Okay, so musky brawl is coming up Before the musky brawl. Before the musky brawl, are we going to try the four skins before the pop season? Are we going to try to get out and fish or are we just getting geared up for the hunting?
Speaker 5season. I was thinking about that. Let's go on a fish, just the four of us, before even our October trip.
Speaker 6We need to loosen up a bit.
Speaker 1I need to go to G-Bay. Man, I need to go. I know you're going on the weekend with the fam jam G-Bay has no fish I went with Luis, didn't Tone just say there was a 56?
Speaker 4Why would?
Speaker 6you even say that Listen, and I know everyone's going to say this guy wants clicks, he wants clicks. You're crazy Dan this.
Speaker 5You're crazy Dan this guy wants clicks, You're crazy Every time I go with Luis we get absolutely skunked, and I'm not counting catching three or four basses not getting skunked. That's skunked. So that's my take on G-Bay, Honestly man. Hey guys prove me wrong, Hold on.
Speaker 2This reminds me of a time that me and Dooch took Dan to the frigging river. We went to.
Speaker 5Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2And we river.
Speaker 3We went to pennsylvania and we were, we were so pumped because river fishing again.
Speaker 2Well, I'll say it again this is my backyard, okay? No, it's not stupid, relax. Okay, it's also pop season for salmon right now, but we're not even talking about it, okay, yeah thank you. We take dan across the border. We go to pennsylvania like a nine hour drive and and we get there. It was a nine hours relax, man. And what happens it? The river's chocolate milk blown out. And this guy I'm so upset because I've been talking about it so long and this guy's like river fishing is stupid.
Speaker 3There's no fish in river fishing. Do they even have?
Speaker 2teeth, oh my God. So like, yeah, he goes to Georgian Bay.
Speaker 5I guarantee the conditions were brutal. Yeah, no, conditions were wonderful guys.
Speaker 1It was probably really hot, it was hot.
Speaker 6Yeah, it was hot, it was beautiful, it was sun.
Speaker 4I'll tell you, I had the best day of my life.
Speaker 6Best day of my life was with Luis.
Speaker 2When you and I went, I was light out the day you guys had with Sean on Hunter's Bay you and Luis is the day I had with Luis on.
Speaker 1Georgia Bay minus the muskie, you can't say that to the hotel we were popping.
Speaker 2I got a 42-inch pike, biggest pike I've caught all year. We got a bunch of snot, rockets, but then the bass we were getting smallies on top water in front of people while they're having their marshmallows over a fire.
Speaker 5It's like what is it on Sesame Street? Is it Pokeroo or is it Snufferluffagus? You don't want guests to see them, because when I get there, there's nothing, because when I get there there's nothing.
Speaker 2All of a sudden there's nothing, right, guys?
Speaker 5We missed him again.
Speaker 1So explain that again, dan, for our listeners, what you asked, because sometimes somehow when Luigi bites me there.
Speaker 6So the fish on Georgian Bay are pokaroo, I don't know, or.
Speaker 5I am. Maybe you never see them, I guess so.
Speaker 1Oh my God, that's brilliant.
Speaker 5It's the same thing. Okay, man, it's the same thing.
Speaker 6You know what? There's been many times where I said look, I'm going this weekend, the weather looks great, you want to come? Ah, ah, right, you know what he says he goes. Ah, I'm a little busy man.
Speaker 1I'll fish with you any second, anytime.
Speaker 5Yeah, I don't get that at, I'll go with siege right now. Whatever, yeah, I will listen, but you two first of all first of all, okay, you son of a.
Speaker 2Okay, so hook set, he gets on the water, he's quiet, and it's like on our crappy trips, man, he's quiet, he doesn't you know. But then he always, he always produces, he always produces. He's a. But you are very technical. We talked about this before. You always have the right gear, the right baits. You can't wait to use these baits. But one thing I will say about Hookset you have to agree with me he brings out the stupidest lures.
Speaker 6Yeah, and I love it, he does A lot of times, look a lot of times he brings them out and we think it's stupid. And then, a year later, that's what everyone's using the.
Speaker 5Shadzilla, shadzilla, I'm telling you. My daughter must have been one. It was 16 years ago the first time I threw that Shadzilla at Lacquer Lodge in the western arm of Nipissing.
Speaker 1I say every 10 he brings out two hits Like two are good.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 5It's good odds for fishing, though. All right that you know what I mean. Yeah, you know. It's funny. My son took up, I guess, him and his buddies he's only 16 and he went fishing with his friends and I was the happy. I was like a pig and shit. Oh yeah. Yeah, my son is like dad. Do you have like gear for me? I'm like gear let's go.
Speaker 2That kid was the best looking fisherman on the river I had I got an old tackle box.
Speaker 5I'm like keish, let's fill this up. We filled it up. He was the only one who caught fish.
Speaker 1He was probably wearing all Sims gear.
Speaker 5He found this random pond, not too far from home, and I gave him some top water. He's like I go, you got to tell me what are you fishing here? What are you fishing? I need to know what you're fishing. He's like dad, I think there's a lot of weeds and stuff. Perfect, here you go, let's take this, let's take this. I just bought some. He used them. He came back home, dad, I was the only one who caught fish. There you go. Then I'm thinking, wait a second, these things have troubles. How'd you take the hooks off? Kid One of his buddies. His dad gave him a set of pliers, took them all off. These kids were good to go.
Speaker 6I was so happy. That's how I grew up, man. That was great.
Speaker 5Were they doing a fish to golf course area? I don't even know where it is. He won't even tell me. He's already like that. He won't even tell me where it is. It's probably where he goes and smokes weed.
Speaker 4It's legal why would you say that.
Speaker 2It's legal.
Speaker 5First of all, it's a family show man your kid's 16 years old and he does that in the backyard man.
Speaker 1It's all legal man. It's under parental supervision.
Speaker 6What's your problem? I'm joking, man, I'm joking. I'm sorry, but that's how you get people hooked, but I was happy man. I'm hoping you got this.
Speaker 4You get hooked on what? No, it's how you get hooked on fishing.
Speaker 2Oh, okay, okay, I love those stories we talked to Corey Johnson, who we had on as a great guest, which he heard, and he said the same thing. How did he?
Speaker 1start fishing, siege his father. His father, you know if dan hooked up quiche with a, with a setup and he got those fish. That's how you get hooked, man. So we all got hooked. We had one guy you guys know this guy uh, williams arms guy and port perry, and it was his grandmother that got him into hunting. So it's just that one person that episode.
Speaker 6I'll be honest, while I was away, I think that was my favorite episode. He's awesome.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 6Because that was such an interesting story. Yeah, how this guy has Parkinson's and you met him.
Speaker 2Lou, you're the one that actually gave me his contact, because I reached out to you and you had the business card with his name on it.
Speaker 6That was such a cool story.
Speaker 2That's when you almost bought that, sold it the week after we left. It was a great price too. Oh my God, it was such a good price.
Speaker 1Anyways, I'm happy now I got my pop and when he told me he hunts wild boar with handguns. That's so cool, that's crazy.
Speaker 5He called him a gangster by the way, sideways, is that how it's done Is?
Speaker 6he on the low low, that's a kill shot. I heard, yeah, it's a kill shot.
Speaker 2But yeah, we're popping. I mean, we got our trip coming up in mid-October, so by the time this airs we'll be a couple weeks out.
Speaker 5Speaking of our October trip. Here's the problem with our October trip that I feel, and this is me always overanalyzing, I guess Yep, what are we doing in this trip, guys? Are we bass fishing, muskie fishing, deer hunting, duck hunting, maybe some walleye in the mix, partridge hunting, partridge, walk the bush a bit. Yes, yes, yes, yes and yes. How are we going to have time for all this, guys? I?
Speaker 1know it's a good problem to be in.
Speaker 6I a good problem to be in. I'm tired of shit already. I'll be honest, when I go there that's what I'm looking forward to is just getting a taste of a little bit of everything, because we haven't done much. Now, the difference this year and I want to make an effort and guys like my buddy Brian he's busting my chops to say let's go hunting that's amazing. My buddy John he's busting my chops to say let's go hunting that's amazing. My buddy John, who his brother won one of those. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He messages me all the time we went fishing to Georgian Bay before I went to Portugal. Actually, he's a great stick. By the way. These guys are like pushing me to do more. Like besides us, you know, and I feel like we're so busy doing our thing, but like sometimes you need other people to to push you to do stuff.
Speaker 2I think the podcast has opened the doors to that. People want to fish and hunt with us.
Speaker 1All you know I'm kind of jealous by guys, that guys and girls that only that only target one fish. You know how much easier that is. You look at Chris and Frank. All they go after is muskie. What do they bring with them? Muskie gear, muskie gear, us nut bars. We have to take a sprinter. Yeah, the trucks are full. And then, not to mention hunting. I want to know, lou, what are you most excited for this trip? What's the one thing you? That's what I was going to ask everybody.
Speaker 6Okay, the one thing that I'm excited about the most is when Smash and I do our walk. Oh, that's romantic, that half hour 45 minute walk through the bush and we go to that one pond that hardly anyone goes to and they hold hands. And every time we go there we miss a million ducks. But there's loaded.
Speaker 2Like you start shaking because you don't know what move to make.
Speaker 5You guys have to understand. The duck will hear you before you even see the thing.
Speaker 6But, dude, they're sitting in the pond while we're there. You don't think they're that aware, guys? Of course, of course.
Speaker 5I got a question for you too.
Speaker 1Ducks are made to be eaten by other animals Off topic will you shoot and not flying Some hunters and I agree, I prefer when they're flying only, but I mean some people.
Speaker 6I don't discredit anyone, but would you If it's the last day and I don't have any ducks.
Speaker 1I'm popping it.
Speaker 2There was a time last season when me and Lou just going back on what the story he's talking about. So me and Lou have done this walk probably three times, and the first time we went was with Sean. He took us, he showed us the the way. The second time we went on our own and the seasons were so different because we were going earlier like we've been going.
Speaker 2We've been going on an opener, like we were going in. The ferns were still green, there was berries everywhere. We're still seeing poop from like bears and moose everywhere, like it was just. I think the timing might've been, it might've been too early, but every time me and Lou have walked us three times now 45 minutes, and the whole time you're stealth. You don't want to make too much noise, cause you know once you get to the end of the point it's loaded. And then we have the same problem we don't know what, like. What do we do? Do we start calling? Do we want them to be in the air? They were still. They were flying in. It sounded like jets.
Speaker 6I feel like all four of us need to go there Two guys on the island and two guys on the other side and kind of do what Coach and Gags did when they pushed the birds our way. I like that. But they even surprised us, because we didn't know it was just happened. Yeah, it just happened Like we sat down and all of a sudden, a flock of birds comes flying across us at 100 miles an hour.
Speaker 5But that's not an hour of excursion. You need to do that super early. Get there before they even start landing. That's what we need to do. Our problem is we go there an hour before.
Speaker 6We would always go there, like in the middle of the day, when there was nothing left to do, and they were already there. If the lake is blown out and we hunted in the morning, can't go fishing. There's not much left to do at the camp. Let's go walk that trek.
Speaker 1And for our listeners. We generally used to go always after Thanksgiving, and this is a great time where we're going.
Speaker 2A video of me, you and dan when it was snowing and we're on lake nos bonce and so all the leaves are down. I want to go.
Speaker 1The leaves are down the grouse, it's so much easier. They're going to be thumping. That's what I'm most excited for is is grouse. I just love the way you guys I'll pop them, lou will pop them and then the way we cook grouse up.
Speaker 5Oh, buddy hook set, Give me some Cool Ranch Doritos.
Speaker 2Cook set made the best grouse I've ever had in my life, and that's what hooked me onto that bird.
Speaker 1Talk about it. What did you do? It was so soft.
Speaker 2Well, we were. It was crazy because it was probably our first.
Speaker 6We talked about this a million times already.
Speaker 2I don't remember that was the pretzel one, wasn't it Not the pretzel, it was the pretzel one. So, hookset, and we got listeners that are just joining our podcast now.
Speaker 6All right, tell them again.
Speaker 2Basically, we've had Coach on one of our first episodes when the Eating Well podcast started, and Coach his name is Coach because he coached us through it all and it wasn't just the popping, it was him coaching us through how to prepare this, Cleaning it, Cleaning it, stepping on the wings, pulling on the legs, and out comes his beautiful breast and Hookset. Just you know, we use our element Siege when we're cooking. It's whatever we have and we figure it out. And I remember Dan had pretzels and he smashed all the pretzels in the bag, threw that beautiful breast meat in that bag, coated it in the pretzels, deep fried it and we had buffalo butter. Buddy, it was like eating boneless chicken wings, but with I don't know. There was just a little different flavor to the partridge or grouse and that, right there, hooked me. I was hooked and it was like I don't know why we're going after ducks all the time. We should just be going after the bush chicken.
Speaker 1They're so good. And then the wood ducks. I don't know what's your favorite thing on the trip to do, Dan. Is it the fishing or the hunting?
Speaker 5Oh man. So this is what I was going to say is I'd almost prefer deer not even open on our trip. So it takes an option. That's so true. I would almost prefer that and go back up for a deer if we had to, if we had time. So I think nothing to me. I'm so like conflicted between the two because I love duck hunting but I love sitting in a tree stand. It's the most peaceful thing in the world. You do that the most of all of us.
Speaker 5There's times you guys go duck hunting and I'll sit in the stand. Yeah, I just find it. It's so peaceful for me and that's what I need.
Speaker 6But that's also why you fall asleep. And then you miss, I know, but it's part of it, man you miss the deer.
Speaker 2The only guy that smokes a dart and drinks a bright ginger in the tree stand.
Speaker 5People say that's what I need with the hectic here's my problem with, with deer hunting.
Speaker 1I always want to be with you guys. Yeah, and, and that's like to me if I got like a 12 point buck or whatever. Yeah, and that's to me it's like catching. Uh, my biggest muskie to today is 52 inches. Yes, and it's not the 56 that tone caught. So celebrating that by myself. I, I know you guys we call on the phones and we get the buck and all that. There's a really cool, don't get me wrong, but I want that guy there to net my fish, I want that guy to high five, I want that guy to hug and it's just especially we don't have a lot yet and we don't have a lot of time together.
Speaker 2So, like I mean, I will, I re, I will rebuttal you this on on on that siege, because you are right, there's a lot of times where we want to sit together and Gags is like no, you know, we're better off all splitting up, because the odds are better, which I agree it's so true.
Speaker 2That year me and Louis went up. It was just the two of us and I shot that buck. It was pouring rain and I remember texting Luis because the thing came in my stand within 20 minutes and I texted Luis. I was like buck down and he's like, really, I just got in my stand. I'm like buck down, don't worry about it. Yeah, stay in your stand. I thought you were full of it. He did think I was full of shit, which is, you know, 90% is true. No, it's not. Listen, I heard his bike start. I heard his bike start. I'm walking following the blood. Respond to the group text. It was just Luis and I heard his bike start in the distance and he comes flying over Siege. He attacked me and we were hugging each other and it was the same experience as if he was sitting next to me.
Speaker 1I get that. Yeah, it really was. We shared that together.
Speaker 5Here's what we'll do this year. We won't go on a tree stand. I do have double tree stands, though, so set up there, nice. We can go in a ground blind you and I.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's good man, tom, what would you prefer to do? Would you prefer to be in a duck blind with your four buddies, or solo?
Speaker 2You know what? When me and Lou did that walk together. I would never do that walk by myself.
Speaker 1Well, he proposed too right, did you say yes to the dress? You guys are in a vlog together. You're just jealous. I am man. They're gorgeous. I think duck hunting is different.
Speaker 2I think we could all be in the same proximity of each other, where you know we spread out across the dam, you're with Dan, I'm with Lou, or vice versa, whatever, and you know those birds are going to come in that general area. If it comes towards you guys, you guys pop it. If not it comes around the corner, we pop it. So we're there together At the end of the night. We all go and collect our ducks together.
Speaker 2Deer, on the other hand, is different, because I feel like when somebody is next to me and if I'm the one, let's say I'm the one sitting and watching you pop, you need the room, you need to focus, and if that thing comes in, just sitting there next to you, I would have the fever just as much as you did. And I get it, it's the high five, it's the net in the water You're bringing in that fish. But I still think, for me, the experience like Dan said, when he's sitting alone, I get it, and that deer comes in, and only you get that experience, only you gets programmed in your mind.
Speaker 1I think my problem is I'm a nut bar, because when I fish, how do I fish? Fast, let's go.
Speaker 6Fast, fast fast.
Speaker 1Jerk bait Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And when we're duck hunting, when they come in it's like Hiroshima. You got outdoors. Add, I do, man, I really do. I'm going to get a t-shirt that says that, because I really think I have a problem with that. Maybe I should. What's your problem? I can't sit alone. Pop, I got to pop with action.
Speaker 5I'm the most calm guy in the world. Come sit with me.
Speaker 1I think that's what it is, Tony.
Speaker 2I think you got to sit with Dan for your first pop. I got the most patience out of everyone. I have patience.
Speaker 5I'm telling you, we'll set up a ground blind. I'll get one. We'll set up a ground blind and you and I will sit there for a deer this year.
Speaker 6I don't think I could do a tree stand with two guys. I could I think?
Speaker 2a ground blind would be better, you know why it's another shoulder to sleep on.
Speaker 5I would love it.
Speaker 2You got a lighter.
Speaker 1Light my dart man.
Speaker 6Put your head on my shoulder, you know and this comes with safety as well.
Speaker 5I will fall asleep on that stand. Just please make sure you guys have your harnesses on. You don't want to fall 20, 30 feet.
Speaker 1The only time I've ever been in a deer, blind by myself, I fell asleep. I love it, though it's crazy, it's nice, though it is relaxing, but I think I'm addicted to the action. I think I'm just like with duck hunting when they come in, it's boom, boom, boom, boom, boom boom.
Speaker 6Hit or miss. I like to say that last year was the first time I sat in the deer stand, the tree stand, and I saw a lot of action. No bucks.
Speaker 3Right All fawns and does.
Speaker 6I remember that that's nice and as soon as they walk in, you know from far away, you're like, okay, here's a buck. And of course it wasn't a buck. But you know, the juices start flowing, man oh yeah, the heart starts pumping, you start going and you're sitting there by yourself and there's no one around and it's kind of cool, right. But having just the same does coming over and it was probably three hours of watching National Geographic and I started getting pissed.
Speaker 2But that's why you got to get your doe tag we didn't get the tag. I didn't do it again this year. It was in June, we were busy, that's the thing.
Speaker 6I don't want to shoot a doe, I want to get a buck. I want to put antlers on the wall, like the rest of you guys.
Speaker 5You're saying that because it's your first one right. That's right, but after my first, that's right. You get what you get. Yes, this brings me to my next question.
Speaker 2My next question I have for all you guys. I'll start with Dan, because I already know his answer. If, dan, you're in the tree stand, whether with Siege, or you're by yourself, and a spike comes to your pile or to your area within 50 yards, are you taking it or are you waiting?
Speaker 5Because it's us and we only do this a handful of times a year. Not even I don't want to take it, especially on our property. I want that thing to grow. Hopefully we get it in a couple of years. And you've already gotten a spike and I did already. Good point, that's right. So me, I would let it go Now. I'm not knocking anyone that takes that thing down. Take it down, no problem. Everyone's got the right to it. It's all legit, all legal, let's do it. Let's put some meat in the freezer, no problem. I would let it go because I already got a spike and I want our property to thrive. I want it to get big, let's get big. I'll get you in five years from now. Good answer, that's what I would do.
Speaker 1Before I answer that, I have a question for you guys. No, sorry, lou, sorry. You know, with fish you eat the two pounders, right, the smaller walters and all that. Yeah, is that the same with like with deer and all that? Like the?
Speaker 2bigger. So the coach told us that one time. Think of it. Yeah, it's like veal, you know, if you take a fawn at the end of you haven't gotten that buck or the doe, the meat's going to be beautiful.
Speaker 1It applies to the same thing, so an older buck won't taste as good as a spike. Well it's a great question.
Speaker 6People are going to have different answers. I think naturally yes. Unless that buck is eating the most beautiful food in the world, the average fawn is going to taste better than the average buck.
Speaker 2I wasn't sure about that. But if an eight-pointer comes to your stand and then there's a fawn and a doe which is very rare that that happens all at once but you're going for the buck, aren't you?
Speaker 5Everyone is. You're not thinking of the meat, you're thinking of the antlers and you want the antlers, you get the meat with it, of course. Well, you get the bigger meat. You want the trophy.
Speaker 2Everybody's looking for the trophy, but if you know in your mind that you're freezer packing, your chances are that that Vaughn is going to be better quality meat, I think.
Speaker 6I don't know. It's a good question, though it's a loaded question. I don't know you want more meat or better quality so you know what?
Speaker 1Do you know what that is? That's a good question. A buck, a buck. Why do they call it a buck?
Speaker 5Let me think here.
Speaker 6I don't know, I never heard of that Because the first American bought it for a buck.
Speaker 1Yes, that's what it was for trading. So that's what they called it a buck. It was worth more, I just guessed.
Speaker 6No, that's 100%. Are you serious? 100% right.
Speaker 1Because I looked it up, you know me right. So, yeah, so it was when they were trading and all that. The buck was worth more. So it was like a buck, like a dollar, so per amount of skin and everything like that, when they were doing trading.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1I was wondering why it has horns. So that means it can buck you Right I didn't know right Like a bull.
Speaker 6That's a great question yeah like a bull, that's a great question, yeah, well, back to the original.
Speaker 1Oh sorry, sorry, man, I get crazy when I'm with you guys.
Speaker 2We got to wrap this show up quickly. But what are you doing if you're in the ground, blind, with a hook set and a spike comes in front of you and let's say, hook set says you know it's for whatever reason, it's not in his range or he wants you to pop, taken it.
Speaker 1I have the tag and everything I'm taking, it You're taking it, I'm taking it. I've never ate the deer we harvested, but I never got one on my own, so I would take the spike I'd be pissed at him. If he didn't, I would. But after that, but after that spike, once I pop my spike cherry, I would go, I would hold off after that. Yeah, I would do what, dan, yeah.
Speaker 5And again we're a little bit. We're not like the average people because Tony and I can just call right, we can get anything we want.
Speaker 2It's true, that is so true, man.
Speaker 5Dial a buck. I want our property, exactly. I want our property to grow. I want it to be massive.
Speaker 2That's a good point.
Speaker 5Maybe I'll take my kid one day and that same spike my kid five years from now. That's going to be his trophy, right.
Speaker 1And I get it If you're living off the land and you guys are filling freezers for your family and you. I get it. Yeah, me too. You want to fill your freezer. Can we stock our camp with bucks?
Speaker 2You know how the?
Speaker 1ministry you can come in and get like walleye loaded in by helicopters. We'll get airdrop bucks I. You know how. The ministry you can come in and get like walleye loaded in, we'll just buy helicopters. We'll get airdrop bucks, I bet there's people who've done that. While there's farms?
Speaker 6No, I bet I don't know, man, this is an interesting question.
Speaker 1Well, I hear Marine Land's closing down, so maybe we can go get a couple of their bucks and bring them up. Buy those whales, take all the money.
Speaker 2Then take all the dough that you just made on that big show and buy Marineland now. Did you believe that Hook said I caught a beluga Is that a trophy fish. Well, listen, man, we got to wrap this episode up.
Speaker 1I'm so excited. The four skins are back.
Speaker 2We got some material we're going to be hopefully making together, can we?
Speaker 2just do a two-hour episode. You know, listen, we're here all night. I don't care, I'm not going home. I already told Andrea the Foreskins are back. It's going to be a long night. Call the Uber. But you know what I got to ask you guys, we're getting together. We're back Eating Wild, the podcast I you even mentioned. You were honest with me. You're like Tone. There was a point where you couldn't even think of it because there's so much going on. We talked about the tornado, but we've been together our whole lives and this podcast is now something where we get together more often. Siege comes down from London now and what are you excited about, buddy?
Speaker 6I got to hear it. Look, the only reason why we have this podcast is because we're the foreskins, and and and before the podcast and after the podcast will always be the foreskins, and that's the best part of this. So, well said, I'm, I'm, I'm so excited to get back in the swing of things with the boys, to do our trips, to get back in the bush, to get back on the lake, back in the boat and just enjoy the outdoors, man, because this is the season and, look, life is busy and a lot of our listeners are doing the same man, there's not too many people that are living on the boat and in the bush, and for those of you that are, you guys are lucky, man, you know, enjoy it while you can, but you know, I grew up in the city and this is my life here. But getting out there as much as I can, that's what I'm going to do now.
Speaker 1That's well said bro, well said, and the best thing is he's coming back in the fall.
Speaker 2You know what Lou? That's the best. When Lou does something, it's at 100%. We all know that we can go back to the sportsman show.
Speaker 1He was the first one in, first one out, like handing stickers to kids.
Speaker 2And you know people texting us saying where the hell's top bag? Oh yeah, so you know just the fact that you're back and listen. There's going to be a lot of podcast siege where the four skins aren't together. We got some really cool guests lined up for the fall season Hunters, fishermen, chefs. We talk everything on this podcast, but there's something different when the four skins are together. Siege and we've talked about it for the last two months. And what are you looking forward to, mo? Siege, like having the four of us together over these mics and sharing stories is one thing, but actually going out there together, like Louis just said, it's always about the four skins man, always it is man and there's nothing better than waking up in the morning and someone starts the boat, gets the coffee and we, we.
Speaker 1This is organic, organic, like. Look at our nicknames. A lot of times people think that our nicknames were made up because of the podcast buddy we were just on jamie's show, yeah.
Speaker 4And you guys got to hear this.
Speaker 2Okay, they opened the show, so they reached out to Siege and Jamie's like listen we got to what's their show? So it's Untamed Pursuits and it was funny because they reached out to CJ.
Speaker 6These guys are new on our network. Yes, it's Jamie, jamie from the Tacklebox. Yes, it's Jamie from the Tackle Box.
Speaker 2Yes, of course he's got an unwriter who is unbelievable. This guy's knowledge. You guys have to listen to this podcast.
Speaker 3I got part of our network.
Speaker 2And he reached out to Siege and he's like hey, can one of or two of the four skins come on my show? And I remember it was the night before and Siege and I were playing Call of Duty and he's like hey, tone, he, we're playing Call of Duty and he's like hey, Tone. He's like Jamie just reached out to us, can you jump on the podcast tomorrow morning? Lou's busy, dan's busy, I'm like you know what We'll make it happen. And we got on his show and the first thing they said to us, siege, was they made nicknames for each other because of our podcast. So Ryder was Air Miles, yeah, nicknames. But then they changed it on part two. I don't know, they're all over the place Sticky.
Speaker 1Hook. I know we're running late on this episode, but that was the question of the day was about. We haven't gotten into our nicknames and why our nicknames Right, and a lot of people do think that these nicknames just came from the podcast, but they're wrong.
Speaker 6We talked about that, didn't we? I think in one of the first or second, I think, the first episode was Hooks at Martin.
Speaker 4Why is he Hooks at?
Speaker 2Martin. Well, have you seen? The guy set a hook right oh man. So you got Jamie was asking us. He's like. You know, I got air miles. Why? Because he travels all around the world and he hunts. Right, he's a rider. He's crazy. This guy pops out there, so their podcast is very interesting. But back where you were saying about the nicknames, it's crazy how the listeners bring up these nicknames that they want to make for each other because they want to be part of the foreskin.
Speaker 6I'm sorry, I'm laughing. Let's do it. I want to hear these nicknames.
Speaker 1I love it Hook set. Everyone knows the expression. Hook sets are free. You got to do them, dan, just didn't matter what fish. And the next thing, you know those poor crappy you see a crappy just go in the air and got him. We got him, got him and then ever since, then and top, top dogs is obviously like.
Speaker 1I mean using the top water czar spook, nobody does. And then you gave me mine because everyone thinks oh, showtime. You know it's pop, pop, pop. But my thing is, if I'm on the boat it's a show. I might not be catching fish, but I'm singing stupid songs.
Speaker 6No, no, no, you got showtime because when it counts, when we're in tournaments, you always show up.
Speaker 2It used to be the Flying Siege, yeah it used to be back in the day. We're going back.
Speaker 1It used to be the Flying Siege because of the drink you used to make us when we were teenagers. Yeah, I got so many names Cracker, jack, cracker, jack, yeah, yeah, but Tone the smash In the kitchen and Self-proclaimed bud.
Speaker 1You heard Gags was the first one to smash. I always said I was like I smashed this, I smashed that and this and that, but you, you don't just smash on the water in the bush. Where else do you smash? In the kitchen? That's it. I hook fish and cook fish. It's what I do. So there's your answer. We've we've had that question a lot on instagram and it wasn't put together for this podcast. So we're like, yeah, let's give ourselves names and stuff like that. Like you know, like a radio, like a radio DJ DJ Danny Thunder.
Speaker 2We got to get Hookset back with the Hookset takes. That's going to come up very shortly in the episodes that are to come. But it's great to be back sitting down with you boys. Oh, so good. And we do have some crazy guests lined up, Siege, just to close the show out. Man, you got to tell the boys who we've been talking to.
Speaker 1What's in the pipeline for the eating wild podcast? Pretty much every elite bass fisherman unbelievable, you know and turns out they don't just pop bass, they cook, and that's up your alley.
Speaker 2And we have one special guest that has been confirmed. He's coming with us. We can say to the folks is jp to rose? Now, jp to rose? You said it, you know, talking about bass and technical guy, like I always think of Dan when you think of JP DeRose very similar, but this guy cooks like a maniac. He cooks Traeger, all that stuff. Sweet, this guy. And we did send him some spices. He's been using our spices, so I'll talk to him about that. But you mentioned it, man, we got the Canada bass coming up. Yes, and I want to ask you guys, before we go, if you are the team captain, okay, of Canada, of Canada, you're the team captain. You guys don't even know. I'm going to ask you this question. You're the team captain Right now. How fishing is going Dan? I'll start with Dan, because he watches this literally every Saturday morning. And if you had to pick team Canada right now, dan, you have six anglers, six, six and we could. They don't even have to be Bassmaster, elite guys, they could be Sticks, it could be Siege.
Speaker 5You know what Well Siege is there for sure.
Speaker 1You should change the question and ask Dan for Team USA, because the guy knows he does.
Speaker 2But, dan, it's the Ryder Cup bud. You're team captain Hookset's, the team captain who's your top six Canadian anglers to go represent us in the Olympics.
Speaker 6Top six, top two I'll give you two. Personally, I'll give you two, okay, go ahead and I'm the captain.
Speaker 5You're the captain, so I'm part of the team, so I need five more.
Speaker 6No, you suck, so just pick someone else.
Speaker 2Yes, you are part of the team who's with you on your boat and who's the other four? The other five.
Speaker 6Five can name five dudes. Okay, I'm taking Siege for sure.
Speaker 2So you're with Siege. Okay, that's a huge team right there.
Speaker 5No, offense to the other two idiots here.
Speaker 1Well, you're Go ahead, sir Siege is my assistant captain. He's saying Siege, as in, not Corey, not Chris, as in me, as in my friend.
Speaker 5Christopher, oh, yes, I made it.
Speaker 4I'm taking Siege.
Speaker 5Then I'm taking Siege. Okay, then I'm taking, obviously, curry and Chris. I'm taking both of them. Then I'm taking I'll take Koop, I'll take Gussie. That's it. That's your six, that's my six, that's your six Because I was going to throw. I was actually going to throw Pete Bowman in there. Oh boy, I was going to take Well.
Speaker 6I'm glad you didn't mention Pete, because I'm mentioning Pete.
Speaker 2Oh boy, who's with you?
Speaker 6Who's with you? Yeah, it's me, pete Ashley Ray. Oh, she's been lighting it up, my friend.
Speaker 1Yes, if anyone's noticed, female angler top Okay.
Speaker 6And someone who flies under the radar, but he is one of the best sticks in Ontario bass fishing. Daniel Hooks at Martin Joe Mazinski.
Speaker 5Oh, that's a huge team. Yeah, I haven't seen him in a while.
Speaker 2My turn, my turn, you ready.
Speaker 1By the time it gets to me, I'm going to have no one.
Speaker 2I'm fishing with Bo Rod, 100% Screw you guys. Well, it doesn't matter, I get to pick my team. Does it have to be, not anybody that you picked? Yeah, no, I'm fishing with Bullrod. Okay, all right, I'm taking Dean Taylor on the other boat. Oh, good Buddy, this guy knows his stuff, he pops. I was with him and Dan last year on Nip. This guy, he can read the electronics.
Speaker 6He knows what he's doing. Yeah, maybe that's all he can do is read electronics.
Speaker 2I'll take Dean myself and he's going to fish with Mr Chong Got to go with.
Speaker 4Chonger yeah, he's good.
Speaker 2Chonger, he's a stick, and I'm going to say the Johnson brothers, corey and Chris, you named a lot of people there.
Speaker 1No, that's six, that's like nine no, that was six.
Speaker 2Me Bullrod, yeah. And then you got Dino's team right with Chong, and then the Johnson brothers Me One, two, three, four, five, six.
Speaker 1That's probably six Go ahead, so my pick is Sean Degagne. Oh boy, claude the coach.
Speaker 2Degagne Sleeper team.
Speaker 1What I'm not done, Next is going to be I picked you AC, so don't forget Daniel Hookset-Narson.
Speaker 3Give me a break.
Speaker 2Give me a break. Who's he fishing?
Speaker 5with yes.
Speaker 1Me.
Speaker 5Yes, that's four. Okay, yeah, great team, I'll beat you guys.
Speaker 1Really You're going to underestimate Dan.
Speaker 5Okay, go ahead Go ahead.
Speaker 1So for my other ones it's so tough, man, I'm going to have to go with Taro Morado. That's a good pick.
Speaker 5And then Cody Kovacek. I've seen him pop bass, I thought you were going to drop the J in there.
Speaker 1Jay Siemens, he's a good stick too. He's a good stick, but the best thing is, if we lose, cody's going to beat everyone up and we'll take the cash and run Well, cody and Gags, cody and.
Speaker 2Gags. I've seen Gags dance. That kid can dance, but Cody, he gets paid for it. Man, I don't know, yeah. And then we got Taro Taro's a stick and a half.
Speaker 5Yeah, they're all good teams. I think Luis is the worst, but ours are all good yeah yeah, sleeper team right here.
Speaker 2Dan, I got to ask you this, since you are the elite fishing pro when it comes to watching TV. Us there's so many and it changes so much. Right, dude, I thought this episode was over.
Speaker 5No man, we're going. Man, it's a two-parter. Here's a question as of now, the Johnston brothers are top.
Speaker 1They're on fire. They're the angler of the year for Chris, and then Corey just came off of St Lawrence.
Speaker 5And the classic classics coming up too, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, what do you guys think of Jacob Wheeler? Could he compete in this man? Because to me I think so. He's probably the best American fisherman in the world. Like, not in the world, but in America he's got to be the best. Oh man, Jacob Wheeler is a sick guy.
Speaker 1How about the Martin brothers Brandon. The Martin brothers Brandon?
Speaker 5Polonek. Well, not the brothers, it's just the dad and son Dad and son Brandon Polonek. Yeah, Polonek's up there too all the time. Chris Saldane, yeah, they're all sticks man, but something about Jacob he just doesn't lose man, oh man.
Speaker 1You could even go into with the Canadians. You could go into the JP. What about Mercer? Does he bass fish tournaments?
Speaker 2He'd be a good stick. Well, he's usually on the mic, but yeah, he's a good stick. Yeah, it's a great stick. Yeah, man.
Speaker 1Well, how about Bob? Oh, we forgot about Bobby, Jesus Christ guys, bobby, yeah, how about this?
Speaker 2Luis? I got a question how about Paul Castellano?
Speaker 6Good stick, huge stick, buddy, that he's known. He's known for a reason that guy can fish man, yeah, those guys.
Speaker 1He's got history here. Sleeper sticks that a lot of people don't know these household names. You know that could just perform Dude.
Speaker 6Joe Mazinski just won another tournament recently.
Speaker 5Yeah, that guy is nuts. He's really good. I would love to see a top five Canadians against top five Americans.
Speaker 2Well, that's what this tournament's about.
Speaker 5I know. I know yes.
Speaker 1Yeah, so it's like pretty much they're painting the picture for like Olympics. So you have Team Canada USA.
Speaker 6Mexico, Japan. They actually have a tournament like this happening next week. That's it, oh really.
Speaker 2I think Dino and Andrew are going down. They're hosting it.
Speaker 1That's hosted by Fisher Pan Am, Pan Am, Black Bass. Yeah, yeah so that's a great concept, because what they want is eventually.
Speaker 2Olympics. Yeah, that's their goal. That's their goal. Their goal is to be in the Olympics. But I don't think the Johnson brothers are in that, are they?
Speaker 5No, they're invited.
Speaker 2But they have it's too busy man.
Speaker 1So Team Canada, like I mean, is Gussie.
Speaker 5Is Gussie, is Coop, is some other sticks that are just like.
Speaker 2He mentioned it on the part two.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's right towards the end.
Speaker 2But was I going to say your buddy there that owns? We had him on the show while we were at the show. The Asian fellow who owns the tackle shop.
Speaker 3Jasper, jasper, yeah.
Speaker 2Pro J. They mentioned his name too. Jasper might be a huge part of that tournament.
Speaker 5I. I think Scott Martin's in it in the American side and I think Jacob Wheeler's in it, yeah, and I don't quite know the rest of the other.
Speaker 1Is it?
Speaker 5B-Lat. I don't know if B-Lat's in it, but he's my favorite. Brian Latimer yeah, he's my favorite.
Speaker 2Well, if there was a Team.
Speaker 5Canada for musky fishing. I'd pick all three of you guys to be on my boat and we'd win it, that's easy.
Speaker 6We might not have fun, but we'd be the best looking boat out there and it'd be entertainment.
Speaker 2It'd be entertainment.
Speaker 5No fish but imagine all the shit talking.
Speaker 6We would do.
Speaker 2I think you'd see the cameraman fly overboard. If you missed a fish, lou, there goes the camera guy in boat two that looks like the Eating Wild team. Oh, lost another one.
Speaker 1Do you guys believe that Corey Johnston was like throwing up on the boat? Yeah, I've seen it, and from the waves, and he still wins the tournament.
Speaker 5Listen, my wife is hooked on that stuff.
Speaker 1On Corey Johnston.
Speaker 5On Corey Johnston yeah.
Speaker 1Oh interesting, Don't tell Corey.
Speaker 5But yeah, I force her to watch. Whenever it is on Saturday, I force her.
Speaker 4She has to watch it.
Speaker 2It's on TV. It for sure she has to watch it.
Speaker 4It's on TV, it's out of Portugal, it's one of the two.
Speaker 2It's all TV. That's all he has on TV. Yeah, rtp or fishing.
Speaker 5Yeah. And she even starts knowing the names of all these anglers and she's like oh that's Chris, oh that's Corey, and she knows all the names. That's crazy man. What do you want?
Speaker 1to do, man, what do you want to do?
Speaker 6with Lou we're going to wrap this show up. This was fun, boys it was fun.
Speaker 2It's always great getting the four of us together. It's insane how like we could do this for another three hours, because, one, we haven't seen each other for a while, but two, we are gearing up folks and the next podcast that we do. Again, we have a lot of trips booked and planned, but we also got some great guests that will lead us up to the season siege.
Speaker 5You know what's funny, Sorry Tone. You know what's funny is when you guys had Moose on.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 5And I heard Moose's story about renting the RV with Coop. Oh yeah, what a story. And I'm like did he read my? Did he listen to what I was saying before?
Speaker 1That's what we told him on the podcast.
Speaker 5It's literally what I said. Let's get an RV, let's tow the Triton around and let's stop at Random Lakes until we get to our destination and fish guys on Random Lakes. That's what they did. Yeah, he has a whole series on it.
Speaker 1I think they're up to season five right now.
Speaker 2Season five, he was talking about it, and they have big plans too. They got some pretty big stuff up their sleeves for more episodes to come. You know what? Listen, man, At the end of the day we're getting the old tornado finger poured over here.
Speaker 2It's time to wrap this one up. This is Smash Mulek with the Four Skins. We got Top Dog Prayer Hook Sepp, martin Showtime Jansen. We're out of here, folks, we'll catch you next week on another episode of the Eden Wild. Sean, get the net Fish on, take it, we'll be right back.