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Underdogs Bootstrappers Gamechangers
Welcome to the "Underdogs Bootstrappers Gamechangers" podcast, where we celebrate the relentless spirit of those who defy the odds, challenge the status quo, and make a lasting impact in their fields. Join us as we dive into the inspiring stories and strategies of bootstrappers, underdogs, and gamechangers from various industries.
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Through engaging interviews and thought-provoking discussions, we'll delve into the mindset and strategies that fuel the success of bootstrappers, underdogs, and gamechangers. Discover how they turned their disadvantages into advantages, harnessed their unique perspectives, and disrupted industries with their innovative ideas.
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Underdogs Bootstrappers Gamechangers
ENTREPRENEURS: CAN FITNESS GIVE YOU THE EDGE? DR. SHELL HAS THE ANSWER!
Want to build a thriving business? Start with your body. In this powerhouse episode, Dr. Shell—doctor, entrepreneur, and Bare Knuckle Fighting Championship competitor—shares how strength training and mental resilience give entrepreneurs the edge they need to win in business and life.
Discover why fitness isn’t just about looking good—it’s about building the endurance, energy, and mindset to tackle challenges head-on. Dr. Shell breaks down how muscle-building boosts metabolism, improves glucose management, and enhances longevity—all crucial for sustaining the demands of entrepreneurship.
We also debunk common fitness myths, especially for women—lifting weights won’t make you bulky, but it will supercharge your health and stamina. Plus, we dive into personalized wellness strategies, the impact of diet and hormones, and how stress management, gratitude, and positive self-talk can help you stay motivated in both business and life.
If you’re an entrepreneur looking to sharpen your mind, strengthen your body, and maximize your success, this episode is a must-listen!
Hello and welcome to underdogs, bootstrappers and game changers. This is for those of you that are starting with nothing and using business to change their stars, motivating people who disrupted industry standards. This is the real side of business. This isn't Shark Tank. My aim with this podcast is to take away some of the imaginary roadblocks that are out there. I want to help more underdogs, because underdogs are truly who change the world. This is part of our Content for Good initiative. All the proceeds from the monetization of this podcast will go to charitable causes. It's for the person that wants it. Hello and welcome to another episode of Underdogs, Bootstrappers, Game Changers. And boy, I've got a treat for you today. I've got a good friend here once again, Dr Shell.
Speaker 2:Hello everybody, Thanks for having me. I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 1:So Dr Shell is a badass in so many ways and she's number one longtime mixed, longtime mixed martial artists.
Speaker 2:Currently number one contender ranked number four uh in the world for bare knuckle fighting championships, bkfc, which is a professional bare knuckle uh boxing league, which is something, uh, conor McGregor just picked up yes, Conor McGregor is a co-owner, and it's one of the fastest growing combat sports and it's, it's uh, it's a really exciting sport. It's one of the fastest growing combat sports and it's a really exciting sport. It's one of those ones that you don't have to be a fighter to understand. It's go, go, go from the start.
Speaker 1:So Dr Shell is a bare knuckle boxer and doctor. She's obviously a doctor and her specialty is around hormonal health, blood work. Everything that kind of gets the race car ready to drive right is in your body. And she's also a wife to a cop who's out in the field every day, and three kids.
Speaker 2:Yep correct Three kids, nine seven and a three-year-old boy.
Speaker 1:So you heard all that right.
Speaker 1:Dr Shell is all three Underdog bootstrapper, game changer because she also owns her own clinic, and so I really wanted to have a conversation with Dr Shell today because I know how important fitness has been in my life.
Speaker 1:Some of you in the audience know my undergrads in biochemistry, huge fitness nut, been involved with the mixed martial arts world for a long time myself, weightlifting world, lots of different hobbies around sport and fitness and I think it's so important for business, and so Dr Shell and I have some interesting conversations, and that's what I want to help you with. Today is we're going to talk about fitness, because this avatar that you have to navigate life with it is important, it's strong, it is important, it's healthy. It is important that your stress levels are maintained and with business and you don't have any sort of fitness routine, it's like I tell people all the time, it's like you are going to need it for the stress, the fitness is going to be imperative because otherwise they can pick up a drink. And if your way in dealing with stress is to pick up a drink and you get into business, you're going to be picking up a drink all the time, or you can pick up a weight, right.
Speaker 2:Absolutely Positive outlets are very important for anyone who's trying to achieve great things or, you know, kind of fill their plate in life. And so you know mental. You know mental strength is a thing and you know it's hard to is, is a, is a thing and and um, you know it's hard to practice that without some sort of physical challenge. It it kind of goes hand in hand. When you're, when you're physically challenging yourself, um, that that really is when the, the mental uh gymnastics are done and and mental strength is made.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and where we're going to go. We're going to go to kind of base level today, and so some of you folks that been into fitness, I think you're going to get a ton out of this conversation. But also I want to make sure to get down to a level where, if you haven't started yet, you know it's cause I, one of my goals in this world is to build more kindhearted badasses, and part of that is we have to get you an avatar worthy of doing that. You know I get people that come up to me in the gym all the time, especially in the locker room, and they're like your, your goals, you know my fitness and stuff like that, and the thing is any of you could have what I have as far as fitness is concerned.
Speaker 1:Anybody, anybody could have what Dr Shell has.
Speaker 2:I absolutely feel that I feel that, uh, in in everything that I that I've done, even getting into mixed martial arts, I was, I was kind of thrown in there and I didn't have any training, I just fought. You know, 12 days later, um, you know, and um, you know it, it wasn't met with the biggest support. A lot of people are kind of like who is she? And uh, you know, I was trying to to influence, you know, and encourage all women to get into. It's kind of like, look at me like I didn't do it. You know little did I know that that um kind of attitude was going to be met with.
Speaker 2:Um, you know, you got the basics in line, you're fit and you're healthy. Um, you know there's a lot of fitness competitions that that we can do and, and you know, I bounced back and forth from competing in in fitness, uh, competition shows in in the bikini division and uh, you know, I, I, I qualified many times for the nationals and um, and um, yeah, I mean, I, I, I don't know why I got into bikini, but it's more so. Just, you compete and you strength train in the gym and you want to see where you stand, you want to compete in something, and so that competitive drive, you know, kind of got me in the door for fitness competitions, which you know aren't necessarily my thing. It's kind of out of my place to be in heels and hair and makeup. So you know, that's always a challenge that I try to get through when I do those competitions.
Speaker 2:But you know it's, it's totally opposite when I'm fighting, when I'm fighting, I'm, I'm, you know I'm, I'm calm the whole time. It really is my, um, my, my, my safe place and my, my place where I get to challenge myself and and that's um, it's um, it's hard to explain and and uh, and mixed martial arts is, is really the ultimate physical and mental challenge and it's a chess match. That's what I love exactly. It is a mental chess. A mental chess match, you have to be one step ahead of your opponent. You really have to be in tune with their body language. It's, it's a lot more than just going over the technique, and so there's a lot more um to having fighter iq than just going through the motions.
Speaker 1:It's so nice to have like backup plan too. Right. It's like, if you're like I boxers, you know like you're a bare knuckle boxer. It's like you have to be incredible at just boxing, you know it's like. But if you're kicking my butt boxing, I still have options in the mixed martial arts world, right.
Speaker 2:Exactly, and you know what, like I, my, um, my background is in MMA. I've had, gosh, I think, maybe 18 or so MMA fights, and so I'm very experienced in mixed martial arts and a lot of Muay Thai, and it's one of those things that my strength was always my one too which is you know the basics of what's needed in a boxing fight or really any fight, and you know that that that came very naturally as, as as a background in in tennis, I feel like just the swing of the racket, uh, came naturally for my one too, and um, yeah, it's just, uh, you know, owning on the basics for any competition or, or, um, athletics that you do is is very important, um, that's, and, and, and that's what, that's what I say for really anything is you, you, you got to own the basics, even even in health, it's, it's, you got to get the basics in line Yep Business too.
Speaker 1:It's like you know. It's like everybody overlooks the basics. It's like what's the trick, what's the hey, what's the miracle pill today that we're going to take to go out and be fit? It's like the basics, it's always miracle pill or miracle workout.
Speaker 2:You know like some some people will be, you know, doing just crazy workouts and stuff, but and and those can be fun and exert yourself in different ways, but for ultimate, you know kind of kind of strength training it's. I've been doing curls, you know, for 15 years. You know there's certain exercises that are, you know, of course, like you know squats, deadlifts, the. You know the, the foundational lifts.
Speaker 1:Let's get to that actually, because I want to talk a little bit about the way you and I I'll get involved in the conversation there too, like the way we learned to fitness right.
Speaker 2:Tell me the way you learned fitness. How did you like figure this fitness thing out? Yeah, you know what I? Um I, I was really really blessed with my my very first job. Uh, during high school, I worked at a nutrition store and so I was in the environment as a teenager, seeing these adults who were very in shape and they were interested in their health and they were using their protein every weekend or, you know, every month, and you know are coming in to purchase protein every month and you know they're on these supplements and and just just very fit people and it's it's adults who were just working out every day.
Speaker 2:And so, you know, I I was very lucky to be exposed to that environment and and then myself started doing like protein and you know fish oil pills and things like that. And, um, you know that's what initially inspired me like hey, like maybe I should go, you know, try to do some exercise, um, and and kind of get back into athletics. I had a background in in childhood in tennis and sports and things like that. So I was athletic as a kid, but I kind of lost it in high school and things like that. So I was athletic as a kid, but I kind of lost it in high school. Um and um, yeah, it's, it's um something that, uh, I kind of just pushed myself into going and what I initially did was anything that I was comfortable with and I did cross country and track in school.
Speaker 2:So basically what I do is I just turned the treadmill on on flat and um, I would just run, I'd run. For you know, I just listened to my music and you know I'd run a couple of miles Um and um you know, and that would be it A lot of women don't realize that they should pick up some weights, right?
Speaker 2:You know what, and and for the longest time I didn't realize that. You know I was working at the nutrition store and you know a lot of them are. You know the bikini models they're on the cover models, their fitness models that are, you know, obviously on on supplements and things like that. So initially you know that's what I started going into and you know, then I competed just for fun, to kind of see where I stood against you know, fit competitors and I did the bikini competition and you know I won and my goal was kind of like dang, like I, I, I have potential, like maybe I could, you know, go for. You know national qualifications and things like that. And so you know that was just my goal because you know, competitive drive is something that, um, it changed my changes, my training, the way that, the way that I think and the way that I um approach my training and, um, there's no doubt, it makes it more like exactly.
Speaker 2:Um, there's no doubt it makes it more like exactly. There's something about any type of competition that really drives me. It's not like, um, you know, and it's not an, it's not a negative pressure in any way either. It's just I love to compete and and, um, I've, I've, I've really always been like that. I've always wanted to compete. You know, I had an older brother and I just, I always wanted to, to, to, to, to try to be better and and, and always, always be against someone who's bigger and stronger. And just, the challenge is, is something about that? That's what I like. And so, um, you know, in in strength training, yes, you can see your body change and you're getting stronger, um, but I really like the goals of, of, um, you know, trying to get it all, all throughout the body. It encourages you to do squats and not just, do you know, shoulders and upper body and and, uh, you know, you're working on your whole body. And the second the second I learned about weights was the second that I really saw my body transforming.
Speaker 1:Yeah, tell them about the efficiencies around. You know, it's not just lifting away, it's not just putting on muscle, cause that's what women fear of Like. Talk to, uh, talk to me about the efficiencies of strength training.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I mean I mean wait, wait, wait. What do you mean?
Speaker 1:The fact that when you're lifting weights, when you're putting on muscle, what that does for body fat.
Speaker 2:I mean so I mean the way that muscle works is that muscle is highly metabolic and it's something that it's going to be burning calories and helping us with our glucose storage and production and usage, and the more muscle that you have to, the more insulin receptors that you have. So there's a lot going on under the hood that we can benefit from. Muscle. Muscle really does dictate our metabolism and a lot of us, you know, kind of forget about that, or or you know, maybe haven't had that discussion to learn that. I certainly didn't know that for, like I said, for the longest time I was dealing with customers who had a lot of muscle and I didn't realize that they were strength training and you know, until we realized that as women, how important muscle is, uh, for longevity and our uh, you know, our energy, our health, our mood um, just the way that our body, just the way that our body works and how hard it is, as we age, to keep that muscle.
Speaker 2:Um, you know, we, we, we got to take advantage of our youth and and you, your strength. Train now, because it only gets harder as we age.
Speaker 1:There's a historic nature to bustle too. It's like I'm sure you heard this like rolling jiu-jitsu and stuff. It's like the old man strength, you know. It's like people actually tease me about having that these days, the old man strength, and there is, there's a certain memory to muscle, and so that's why the earlier you start it, in my opinion like the the more you can get it back easier, the more it lasts, you know it's like. But for women too I want to bring your point home. You know I tend to do that on this show is like uh, adding some strength training to your workout will also have efficiencies in fat burning and you'll look better.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. If our ultimate goal is weight loss and fat burning, cardio is is good, it's important, it warms us up, it does burn some calories, but, but the ultimate metabolic boost is going to be from building muscle. Um, and, and I always say, like, the cool thing about building muscle is not only are you built, burning calories, uh, during that workout, you're now burning calories when you go home and when you're eating, when you're sleeping, you're constantly a fat burning machine. When you're building that muscle. And for for, for women, um, you know, I commonly come across the fear that we'll get too bulky and um, you gotta work hard to be bulky.
Speaker 2:It really is. I've been working my whole life to get bulky and you know, when I lean out for fights I can look pretty shredded and pretty jacked, but normally it's it's. It's not something like it's, just not something that I see in my future ever getting to a point. Um, you know, everywhere I reach my goals you know it is something that, um, yes, women can get bulky, but you, you, you, it's not something that we can really do, naturally, let's, let's talk to them.
Speaker 1:Um, I want to back up a little bit. Let's talk to them about how to get started. I'll weigh in a little bit and I want you to pick up after me. Um, I started, um, lifting weights by getting a book called strength training anatomy and in fact, like, uh, I am going to buy somebody that book that's watching the episode. So if you're the first one to put uh something in the comments or reach out to me first, we'll make it an Easter egg hunt. Whoever I hear from first or see from first, I'm going to buy you this book and it's called strength training anatomy and what I love about it is, um, it will not only show you the exercise but it also shows these color diagrams about the muscle, and it worked. And so, basically, I had read about like you should do.
Speaker 1:I can't remember at the time what the. It's always changing. We know like what's the recommendations and, depending on who you talk to, there's different recommendations. We know like what's the recommendations and, depending on who you talk to, there's different different recommendations. But at that time it was like three body parts. You know like uh, three, three sets, um, uh, 10 reps around there, depending on what you're trying to do. You know I'm going to leave it right at that. It gets more complex, right, but you basically the gist is you go in this book and you pick out a couple exercises for your back day, you know, for your, um, uh, leg day, that sort of stuff, and, um, I thought the book was invaluable and it really. It really does a good job of explaining, and that's how I learned to lift weights, was that? And then I picked up more stuff along the way. Did you have somebody that taught you how?
Speaker 2:you know what I did, and I was really, um, just sticking my nose into it. I just knew that I needed it. Um, like I said, I was just blessed to be able to be in that environment where it just kind of clicked in my brain Like this is you know something that, um, it looks like it's pretty important you know, these, these people are really healthy and that's what I want to be like.
Speaker 2:I want to be strong and confident, um and and no-transcript the treadmill. So I'd go every day run a couple of miles, you know, keep my head down and you know, they, they, they really have a strong, aesthetic looking body, like that is coming from from weights, like all all of them are doing. Actually, a lot of them are incredibly strong. A lot of those, those women, are really incredibly strong doing strength training as a, as a daily um incorporation into their, their, their workouts.
Speaker 2:But, um, uh, you know when, when I started incorporating, uh, weight training, eventually I, I picked I mean, I just Googled kind of you know top exercises for shoulders and that seemed to be one that you know I could hide in the corner and do the free weights Right. So I, I, I, quick, I learned a few exercises that I could comfortably do, you know, in whatever space in the gym, and I would add kind of one exercise on, you know, at a time, like as I became you know, you know good and comfortable at what I was doing, on at a time as I became good and comfortable at what I was doing, and I really did the same thing over time. I really am a fan of if you're uncomfortable, just baby steps and do the same thing every time, and consistency is very powerful when you're first starting out. That's one of the easiest ways to really see the results start to come to.
Speaker 1:You know and that's something I definitely wanted us to get to today too it's like it doesn't have to be. We're giving you the benefits of weightlifting and I think eventually, no matter what you do, you should add that to your routine. But it's like, start with it, like we both really like to get in the gym and hit the bag. You know like both of us really enjoy that. You hit pads with your coach, I'm sure you know, I with your coach, I'm sure you know I used to get in hit pads all the time.
Speaker 1:Uh, you know, it's like I train um long sword with my brother at a medieval um martial arts gym. You know it's like, and so like, think of things that are things you're interested in, right, and like then, you know like, step into the other stuff too, because, like we're talking about, it's like if you're out there and, let's say, boxing's your thing, or you know like dance or you know whatever, you'll eventually get to the point where I'd like to be a little bit better at this. And then, if you add the weightlifting, if you add a little bit of cardio to that, you will get better at it, right.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, and and the the whole point of longevity and preserving age is muscle. Muscle is what keeps us alive and, um, you know, no, no matter what sport you're doing, if there's no, um, resistance, uh training and involved in that, and we're not, um you know, building muscle, then then we should be trying to incorporate a little bit of strength training into to whatever our, our, sport is.
Speaker 1:And start by being just active. In some yoga, you know like it starts with being active and finding something you like and you'll stay with. And then please, for the love of the world, don't get the worst trainer on the planet. If you, if you get these trainers that kick your butt day one, you know it's like shame on them. You know it shouldn't be like that. It should be going in and going through the motions. That should be day one, that should be day two. And then, if you're can't find somebody that's going to be easygoing like that on you, please go in, just play with the machine rates, get this shrink training anatomy book, you know, just go through the motions and what you'll find. And anybody can go through the motions, right, it's not hard to go through the motions. And what you'll find is you'll get in the environment, right, you'll start to see other people, you'll start to be like you know what this is a little bit, I could do a little bit more than this and then you'll eventually find yourself stepping into it.
Speaker 1:I can't stand when I hear that a trainer or a person has kicked their own butt. You know, like day one. And they don't go back, right, yep, I mean I've heard trainers going too hard, Also, trainers going too light.
Speaker 2:Um, you know, I've I've had patients, you know, really struggling with weight loss and then when we, you know, get down to like what, what are you doing at the gym? And you know, I had one lady who the trainer, um, she recommended that she always needs to be talking, right, Because because otherwise, like, she gets too stressed out. So, you know, they they always had to be, you know, discussing, and, and you know, when I asked her about the intensity of her workout, it turned out that talking, you know, did take her concentration, um, you know, out of really mentally focusing into the workout itself. And you know, I find that myself too, it's something that, uh, you know, when you are working out, you, you do get the best benefits when your mind and your body is, is completely into it and connected.
Speaker 2:And, um, you know, sometimes distractions, even even in life distractions as well too, if our mind is elsewhere, um, you know, we, we don't get the best benefit of of that workout, and so that that's why I love a personal workout, to just zone in, just talk to yourself, talk positive to yourself and and and grow, and, and. Then, you know, after the gym, you know, deal with, deal with life problems, you know, stronger than you were coming in.
Speaker 1:I'm glad you went there because it starts with the way I said. You know. It's like it starts with finding something you enjoy, you know, and then getting a little bit more competitive at it even if it's personally, you know and then involve the weight lifting and stuff like that, um, slowly but surely, and then you'll get to the point where it's like you live for that extra right. It's like you see me in the gym and I actually get a lot of problems at my weightlifting gym. Uh, I get bullied on a little bit there because, like, I have a face at the gym and it's not a face against the world, it's a face against myself, right, it's like I'm getting through stuff that's stressing me out, and so I don't have a very pretty face and I stick to myself and I have headphones on and I'm in my own, other world. I listen to my instrumental music and I am conquering something at that moment.
Speaker 1:And you can see that in my training routine too. You know it's like, and you will get there right. It's like it starts with this, and then you'll get to the point where like this can be an amazing tool. And it starts with this, and then you'll get to the point where like this can be an amazing tool, and then, I don't know, personally, I get a, I'm a little sick. I guess I beg for the pain, like, and it's harder and harder to find it. You know, because once you get used to it, it's harder and harder to get there.
Speaker 2:Sometimes it's uncomfortable at first, but then you get to learn that. You know pain is how you get growth. You know like people can betray you or lie to you. There's a lot of things. You know someone, one of your best friends, can die one one morning. There's there's a lot of things that really hurt you in life. And, uh, the pain of the workout doesn't seem so bad, but it really does test your limits and it teaches you. You know one type of pain that you you can, um, handle Andable.
Speaker 1:It's. It's so helpful in so many ways, and especially for business. You're going to need it. It's a good outlet Most. I don't know anybody successful that doesn't have some sort of fitness in their life, you know it's. It's a discipline thing it's. It's so many levels you know it's important it's so important.
Speaker 2:I always wondered how in in medical school you know I was I was one of one of the few people who worked out, and it just makes you wonder. I mean, you know such smart how is that possible? They're such smart people you know, they're, they're so smart and they know how important exercise is. But you know, sometimes, even knowing about it, it um doesn't mean that you necessarily practice it or, um, you know, see it as something that that you need. So, um, it's, it's, it's.
Speaker 1:It's hard to understand that that um, that was a big issue I had in school is like I was, I was in a biochemistry track and I kept having professors that were overweight and that sort of stuff. I'm like, look, you know this stuff. You know it's like how can you be overweight? And I, actually there was one guy, he was like six, five probably, huge muscular guy and he ran this uh department that actually I later did research in because I'm like here's a biochemist, that practice, which he was a monster you know. And so, like I ended up, uh, um, working in a spider lab for a year, uh, studying amino acid content in spider silk, yeah, and it was. It was honestly mostly because this guy who was a biochemist PhD, like he was like what I thought you know a biochem should be, and that was somebody that like understood fitness and was into like fitness workouts, that sort of stuff. I like understanding it on a very molecular level. You know what's going on in my body. I really do.
Speaker 2:But I often say to that that, uh, fit people are going to be the ones who change the world. Fit people are the ones who are going to be, are are able to take care of their own health and handle their own businesses, and they're the ones who are like this is what's happening to me and this is what everyone else needs to do. So I think a lot of us are the empaths as well, too, and you know the big farmer and you know all the people who are, you know, not, you know, just thinking about themselves and things like that. I think they have a lot to worry about when, when fit people get into important positions.
Speaker 1:It's so important to have some fitness in your life for so many reasons. And you know, like here's the thing too, it's like there's a lot of kindhearted people in the world. You know, it's like this thing right here is is the most beautiful thing in the world. You know, it's like the and there's a lot of kindhearted people out there that maybe don't have the external power yet. Right, and that's one of the groups of people that I'm like trying to bring up in the world is like you can create all this. This can all be. You can't create this. You are this, you are empathy, you are caring, you are heart. Now, just bring yourself this. Get in the gym. That's why I say I want to make more kindhearted badasses. You know, if you're a kindhearted person, please get in the gym. Please take a mixed martial arts class, because the world needs more of you.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, and you can. You can have the kindest heart of the world, but you know, if you aren't a bad ass and you're not taking care of your body, you can. You can get a step. You can get walked over.
Speaker 2:And for those of us who try to act our best and follow with a good heart. It's something that can be very crushing and it takes a lot of your energy, and so I recommend anyone if you want to change the world or help people and influence people, we have to take care of our body. We, we gotta be strong because you, you, you reach a lot of um, a lot of um negative reactions when you're, when you're trying to, to, to be positive.
Speaker 1:I mean, I always give this analogy too. It's like I've started treating my life as a role playing character I don't even remember how many years ago and it's like you know those video games where you build the character and then you make them chop wood and then they get better at that and they get stronger, or you make them lift that rock and the strength meter goes up. Read the book and the intelligent meter. The second.
Speaker 1:I started looking at that as my life, my world changed right. It's like lifting a weight changed right. It's like lifting a weight and I see this little bar going up reading a book and see this little bar going up training sword fighting. You know, it's like this little bar going up might not ever use that, right, but it's like. I think it's important to be constantly building that character because you never know what comes up. And my dad's 70 years old. He got hit by a car the other day and just walked away from it Cause he's been like working out. He has a lot of muscle. You know that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2:Sometimes you don't know you need it until you need it.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. That's why it's it's so important. So you're going to need it for business. When I'm talking about pre-work which I have those videos out there I'm like pre-work for business. One of the things you need is a is a good workout routine. Find something that will get you started.
Speaker 1:Yep just like a car it's. It's so crazy to me, actually, that people know that if you've got a car sitting in the garage and it's been sitting there for 10 years, and you're going to go out on a race or even take it on a Sunday drive, you know it's like you're going to check the fluids, you're going to check the battery, you're going to, like, check the tires. It's like that thing's going to need a look over before you get it in action right, otherwise you can't expect it to perform, you know, and we don't think about that with our bodies, and that is insane to me. And so, dr Shell, we're going to talk now about hormones, blood work, that sort of stuff, which is your specialty. What should anybody do? Uh, especially if they're looking at a workout routine first.
Speaker 2:I mean, you know what, when we don't have things under the hood in line, such as our hormones, our vitamins, certain things that are very important for our metabolism, we get weight loss resistance, which is very common. As we age, it gets even more difficult to control if we're trying to play catch up. But there are certain things that if we don't have in balance, you can work as hard as you want at the gym, eat the beautiful diet, and you'll see no results, and it gets very frustrating, you know and oftentimes those are the people who are just racking their brain for why their beautiful diet and consistent exercise isn't having any effect at all, and most often it's simple vitamin hormone deficiencies that just need to be balanced out. And so there's a certain panel of hormones in labs that I put together over the last kind of six, seven years that I've just learned that these are just the foundational hormones and biomarkers that we need to understand for people in order to have optimal health, and I'm often the doctor that people will come to when they're seeing a chronic disease develop in the body and they're not yet ready for a medication so often conventional medicine.
Speaker 2:Unless you're ready to pull out that script pad, we don't really have an explanation for those patients. They're often just waiting in limbo and left to fend for themselves and find personal trainers and things like that of what they should do, but there's no real protocol. It might be, you know, eat whole foods, cut out your sugar, but there's no, there's no real direction. And you know that that's what I really stress in my patients and I work for them because it's one of those things like once you understand the basics of what you need with your health, it's really easy to get them in line and then use the basic natural lifestyle good exercise, healthy diet to put that all together.
Speaker 1:You know, and that's so I had I'd been working out about 26 times a week at one point and I started to feel a little off 26 times a week.
Speaker 1:Yeah, everybody wants to like count through it, which I'm glad to do with anybody if they want to. But, yeah, 26 times a week, and I was actually running a business full time at the same time. But, and then other things, you know like there's time in life. You know there really is. But so I started like I think this personally. It's like I started to feel off and I noticed that because I was using my body at its very peak level, right, and so I went to several doctors and that's not like me at all, because I'm very doctor avoidant and they want they wouldn't, they'd say, oh no, you're getting older. You know, it's like over and over again, like you're getting older and you know it's like. I finally found one doctor that cared and listened, right, and I won't go into the rest of the story, but they were dead wrong in telling me I was just getting older.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. Oftentimes we're told the story you're just getting older. That's the reason for your symptoms, but we know how to, we know how to fix that. So it's not just getting older. There there's supplements and and vitamins, and things that we can replenish certain things that we don't absorb well as we age, certain things that we know aren't in our diet, um, and and so it it. Um, it certainly isn't true to just blame it on aging. Certainly, those effects are, are maybe, um, you know, more susceptible and more pronounced because we're aging, but that doesn't mean that we can't fix it, and and oftentimes there's not a medication. So maybe that's the confusion.
Speaker 1:um, you know that, um, well, that, that, that let's go into that and, if you're okay with it, like I know, you've talked about this before, it's like it should be malpractice if you're not looking at blood work and vitamin and hormone deficiencies before you're just giving a drug.
Speaker 2:I, I, I, I absolutely believe that there's certain things that we commonly do, that that physicians in conventional medicine commonly do, and it's supported by insurance companies and policies, and oftentimes insurance companies dictate how physicians get to train and treat patients and so oftentimes, due to insurance reimbursements and poor reimbursements for the amount of time, it's kind of a tell me your symptom, here's the medication and that's all that they have time to. So it makes sense when we allow insurance to dictate how providers are funded and reimbursed, and that's unfortunate. I think if doctors had more time and better reimbursement and more reimbursement for prevention, if what we actually know was supported in the policies of insurance, then then absolutely we would. We would have way more people on fiber instead of statins. We have way more people on, you know, fiber and and good, healthy diet and understanding like what we need more in our diet, instead of just waiting for the metformin or, um, you know, a blood sugar medication to come in.
Speaker 1:Diagnosing the kids with depression, anxiety and not checking vitamin D levels.
Speaker 2:Exactly, Exactly, there's. There's so many illnesses that we commonly see in some of the most common chronic conditions high cholesterol, high blood sugar, insulin resistance, obesity. A lot of those are really a quick fix and oftentimes if you're not ready for that prescription or you don't want to accept that prescription yet, you're not given additional answers. It's not something that you get five different options, it's, it's, um, it's really a one way, or, you know, come back when you're ready to accept your, your fate your blood work too.
Speaker 1:It's like demand your blood work and then demand more than the basic panels Cause. A lot of times this is just my experience You'll. You can weigh in on it for sure better than I can, but it's like my.
Speaker 2:In my own experience they only usually want to give you a couple blood tests and you know those will only tell you so much, absolutely, and and, um, you know it's, it's, um, it's something that a lot of the blood work that is done in your annual labs it's just making sure you're not going to die, it's not making sure you're you're, you're healthy and you're um, you know, it's just, it's just making sure that your liver's good, your, your kidneys are good, um, you know. And and then, of course, your blood sugar and your cholesterol, because if those get flagged to the level that we need a prescription, you really are a lifelong patient. Um and uh, you know I, I hate to say that, but unfortunately, under insurance reimbursement, that's just the pathway that it goes. And, um, you know, patients don't get the right lifestyle discussion of of how we can do it naturally. And there there's, you know, naturally sounds like foo-foo, but it's, it's not. It's not a special supplement. Um, you know that that's um trademarked by, you know. You know a company that I support, or anything it's. You know it really is fiber. It's why cholesterol is building up. We don't have fiber in our, in our, our food.
Speaker 2:You know, I was thinking too, like it should be uh, something that is is um is so, so get this. This is what I think is a policy of what it should be. So any fast food drive-thru restaurant, they should have to give you a little pack of psyllium husk capsules. You know they should be acknowledging that they are making chronic. The chronic disease epidemic just skyrocket when we know that of course it is a lot of fast food and we can't just expect people to all of a sudden, just you know, cut out fast food. You know we have to. People are at all different levels and we need to take baby steps. And if we can get these big corporations who are just feeding you know people, food, we should at least be providing those people with the supplement to just complete the meal the best that we can.
Speaker 2:You know, and and and. When you don't have a fiber meal, what that does is is you're collecting that, that cholesterol. That cholesterol is collecting, uh, same with that blood sugar. Your, your blood sugar is skyrocketing, your insulin is shooting up, um, and so you need fiber to those meals. And then, of course, you know, focus on fiber. You know all throughout the day. But for any meal that you don't have fiber in, you can just expect your cholesterol and blood sugar sugar to skyrocket. And so more restaurants and fast foods or Uber eats, you know, made it a thing like let's, let's, let's, defeat chronic disease, like let's change it, like. Fiber is a huge part of that that we don't talk about.
Speaker 1:We've talked about that before. It's kind of like the idea of folks is like okay, if you're going to have the crappy food which we all know, it's like McDonald's is not good for you, you know. It's like uh no-transcript.
Speaker 2:You know, diet is something that I struggle with. It's almost like I work out to eat what I want and sometimes that is like McDonald's or Jack in the box, and you know I know what's healthy for me and, and you know, I really I really struggle with this. You know I get so passionate about it because I feel like I'm just breaking it down to the basics. It really is the basics and you know, sometimes we make it complicated, like it has to be a fancy supplement or something that, um, people are always like what hey?
Speaker 1:Tyler, what's the three magic supplements?
Speaker 2:Yeah. What's the secret for it? And?
Speaker 1:supplements do like, unless it's something like Dr Shell's like vitamin D does a lot, you know. Uh, fiber does a lot psyllium husk, but but when you're talking about performance supple supplements, like we're talking protein powders creatine is a good supplement, these are good but we're talking about maybe doing 3% when you're at a certain level, in my opinion. What's your opinion?
Speaker 2:Absolutely. I mean as as a as a competitive athlete, I've always looked for a competitive edge um in in sports. Even even when I was competing in tennis at about 10 years old, my parents were giving me protein shakes, right, like trying to help me build my muscle, of course, like fish oil and things like that as well.
Speaker 1:That was back when you had to plug your nose to drink the protein.
Speaker 2:Exactly. Yeah, I mean my, my dad used to make it in action like with ice cream and like actually like good, good stuff to make it.
Speaker 2:We used to get it in a cardboard box in the bag and you'd have to plug your nose. It's felt like brown eggs, yeah no, I mean, it wasn't as good as it is now. I do collagen protein now and I just mix it in warm water. It goes down so easy, um, and so, yeah, there there, there's so many things that, um, we can just enhance in our diet. You can eat a healthy diet all day long, but if you want to optimize and be the best of the best, there's always more that you can can add into it, and so I I do love supplements. I love supplements cause we can get a little bit more.
Speaker 1:Yeah, some, but that's a, that's a bonus to the basics of having a, having a a decent workout routine, having a decent diet, you know, and like my thing is it's like if you're going to eat, eat. You know, just get some good stuff in there too. You know, it's like that's my point to dieting and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:We're all at different levels, so we just have to understand the basics and try to see how we can incorporate that. But there's certain things that, um, that uh, we don't just get to cross off right. We there's a certain amount of fiber that we need. If you can't get any in your diet, you have to add it in. There's a certain amount of protein that we need. If you can't get it in your diet, we just have to get it in. So a lot of us adults just need to, you know, do a diet diary and and and really calculate how much are we getting and then and then be honest with ourselves and supplement if you're not getting it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and there's a vast difference. Folks in, like what Dr Shell is talking about, as far as and our sports supplements right, if you take a creatine supplement and just sit here, it's not really going to do that much for you. You have to be actively doing all these other things. And so I deal with a lot of people that are like, what's the magic supplement? And there is no magic supplement right, but there is supplementation. That's why it's a supplement right To all these other things. Or Dr Giselle's talking more of like a supplement that's like health, you know, it's like psyllium husk, vitamin D, you know, these are things that, like, you need anyway.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, and very inexpensive as well too. Psyllium husk, vitamin D, even vitamin B12. I love for saving our nerves and preventing neurological conditions like Alzheimer's and dementia. Uh, you know, and and again, like something that's very difficult to get in our diet. Um, and so, like I said, like, if you, you know meal plan, there's absolutely a way that you can make a beautiful diet, and if you're doing that, then awesome, maybe you don't need supplements. Um, but um, in reality, it's just, it's just, that's just not the case, and so we just need to acknowledge that.
Speaker 2:And um, you know, I always say the basics. The basics need to be in line first, which is, you know, usually comes from fiber. And then you have certain vitamins and, you know, if we're above an age you're usually above age 40, there's certain hormones that start to decline and, you know, sometimes they come to the point where, no matter how much zinc or magnesium or natural vitamins that you take to stimulate your natural production of certain hormones, we do get to a certain age where it's like knocking on a door that nobody's going to answer. You can take all the natural stuff to stimulate production, but eventually the ovaries, they just shut down and and your testicles, they, they, they just shut down, like you're, you're just not producing those hormones. You know that we've had our whole life and we're we're living longer than we ever had before. So it makes sense, um, you know that our, our organs are, you know, kind of tapping out before you know we're ready to go, and so, um, yes, like you can get through naturally and live a healthy life.
Speaker 2:But when we're talking about quality of life, um, supportive of certain hormones that are just vital to the human body, are, are, you know, just just just needed and and and not everybody needs that. There are some patients that's why labs are so important. There are some, some women who are deep into menopause and their hormones are awesome and and, and they just need, you know, some vitamin D, vitamin B12, support, just just the basic vitamins. So, you know, not hormone, hormone therapy isn't required for everyone, but it's all based on labs and interpreting the reference ranges appropriately. So reference ranges aren't just okay, you're good. Um, sometimes it needs to be in a certain range of that reference range to, to, to, to have optimal health.
Speaker 1:That's that I'm glad you went there, because it's like the reference races in general and help me weigh in on this. It's like they're going to say, like this is normal, you know, let's say one 75 is normal, but they're going to call that normal from anywhere from a 14 year old man kid to a 90 year old man and then the other variants. That people don't take into account is we're all different beings, you know. So my base level for something is completely different than you know some other man's base level, you know, even at my age size, whatever you know, we're different and our base levels are different, but the system weigh in on this more than me weighing in on it, because the system is built in this like to fit in this perfect box, but we're all different individuals.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. The reference ranges are really comparing the whole average population together. Yes, and you know it's very serious because once you pop out of those ranges for the ones that are very important, once you pop out of those ranges like it's a big deal, like it's not just you know, oops, like I'm out of the range, like, for example, like low vitamin D, vitamin d, like we're talking, like like that's the level that people get osteoporosis. So, yeah, that that's a big deal. It's not just. You know the autoimmune condition, the depression and the anxiety, and you know allergies and poor. You know just, just just feeling like crap. It's actually like holes in the bones are growing with that number.
Speaker 2:So it doesn't take a genius to assume that maybe we should be way on the higher end range to even get we don't want to be anywhere close to the osteoporosis range, right, and we're learning to that, like you know. The next kind of you know you know 10, 20 points up for vitamin D we're still in, like the cancer and autoimmune range, you know. So it's like we need to get up. But there's certain reference ranges that just I mean some reference ranges take five, 10 years to even change. It's, it's things that we know, but it you got to get the right stamp of approval and there's a lot of conflict of interest in certain reference ranges, um that, um, you know it's it's hard to to get the right information out there.
Speaker 1:I really want you to get out of that. Part of this is get in, get some blood work done, complete hormone workup. Pass the basic ones that they want to give you. Fight for those things. Know that the basic reference ranges, especially if you don't have a doctor that really specializes, like Dr Shell. Does Dr Shell's thinking out of the box a little bit, like we've just discussed. Hopefully we didn't go too deep in the weeds because Dr Shell and I are kind of science nerds, you know, and so what you need to get is like there's people that know how to analyze it really well, like Dr Shell, and there's people that are doctors that haven't been involved in it as much and they're going to use those charts Right, and so really fight for that. Know about vitamin D deficiencies, because almost everybody is, especially if you have melanin in your skin.
Speaker 1:So black people, hispanic, people you know skin, so black people, Hispanic people, you know it's like you're especially susceptible to vitamin D problems, Right, and so you're going to need to supplement more and pay attention to that more, even more, and I see, like all the white population in Arizona is, is, is is very, very low, don't care how much you tan.
Speaker 2:Exactly, and so the more melanin that you have, the even lower that that patients are, and so I really think, like it's, it's, it's a state of emergency.
Speaker 1:It's a game changer and break it down really quick. Vitamin D deficiency it's does so much. Give them a couple that like they'll feel different if they'll, Absolutely I mean.
Speaker 2:Vitamin D is something that it is important for almost every process in your body, and without it, almost all of your hormones can't be produced to appropriate levels, and so, uh, low testosterone production, uh, a lot, a lot of times just low serotonin and dopamine which I always like to talk about, because you need vitamin d for even the synthesis of those hormones that um anxiety without them, we get anxiety and depression.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Um and uh, you know, vitamin, vitamin D is is very important for inflammation and autoimmunity. The first thing that we do for cancer patients is we get to the high end range. We get cancer patients 80 to 100. Yep, Um, you know, at that, at that high end range, because we, we need the immune support that that vitamin D does for that.
Speaker 1:Um, there's, there's, um, you know, of course, bone production, bone protection as well too, Um, but, um, if I like Dr Shell, she'll go on for 40 minutes on vitamin D, and we got more stuff to get to you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 2:There's a whole list of vitamin D. Essentially, it's really a part of everything and it really does shut down. You know almost every process and we're just not in the sun Like we used. We're not in the sun like we used to be. Um, it's the technological age and and we're just not getting vitamin D. And, and, to top that off, the more body fat we have, it even goes down, and so you know, obesity is is a problem and um, that even makes the vitamin D go down even lower, and so it's just um inflammation, weight gain and and weight loss. Resistance is another thing with with vitamin D is you just, no matter how hard you work out or exercise, if you're low, you know weight loss is very difficult.
Speaker 1:There's a huge chance you're getting diagnosed right now with depression or anxiety and it's actually a vitamin D deficiency, and so I want you to get hormone workup. Especially if you're thinking about business, that sort of stuff, it's like you need this avatar, no matter what you're going to need in business. Let's, let's, let's scoot over to stress and some of the most stressed out people we've talked about this before that come into your clinics uh, first line defenders, right Police officers, uh, firemen and entrepreneurs.
Speaker 2:Yep, yep, I mean I, yeah, I have a lot of, I mean, I have a lot of busy, uh, business owners and, you know, moms as well too. Um, you know, stress is, stress is a big thing and um, it's, it's, um, it's largely unavoidable. We all live, live pretty demanding lives and, um, you know, stress is something that, uh, of course, like without the foundational hormones and vitamins in line, it's one of those things that I see it's very difficult to tolerate stress, um, if you don't have good vitamin D, good vitamin B12, if you're depressed. That that makes stress even. You know, it makes you go down down the rabbit hole a little bit more. Stress leads to depression, anxiety and fatigue. It really shuts your body down. So it's, it really is, it really is a whole cycle.
Speaker 1:Um, you're going to, you're going to have it in business too. It's like business and stress go together. I don't care what they tell you online. Like business and stress go together. I don't care what they tell you online. It is not all working a couple hours, vacationing all the time. No, it's dealing with sick anxiety, stress in your stomach, especially when you first start your business. And so that's why I wanted to go into this fitness stuff, because you need a good outlet for it.
Speaker 1:And what people don't realize about stress and this is the way I think about it is like we know about the fight or flight of an animal, right Like the rabbit that's getting chased by the Hawk, and what's actually happening biochemically in their body is everything is shutting down except the essentials to survival at that point. And what stress is is it's kind of a similar reaction that we're having to the world and what that's doing when we're in those stress states. It's shutting a lot, a lot of those in that moment, emergency reactors down. So like things like digestion, things like sleep fertility fertility periods, kind of shut off during stress.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, it definitely affects the body and you know, stress, stress is very um unique for all in in how they process it. Um, but um, yeah, certainly, foundational health and exercise and the basic lifestyles those it Um. But um, yeah, certainly, foundational health and exercise and the basic lifestyles those help. Um, I do think that stress is, um you know, very important to work on your internal dialogue as well too. Um, you know a lot of things and a lot of problems can be intensified if we're, you know, not talking positively to ourselves and just being aware of how we talk to ourselves. Um, so I I do believe um that, uh, you know controlling your mind and you know being able to separate, you know emotions and and you know objective things and, um, you know being able to compartmentalize things you know really helps to to process stress.
Speaker 1:You know it's crazy. There's those stories that we hear about the person like lifting a car off their kid you know, in the right scenario.
Speaker 2:It's like these super human things and we don't think the mind's powerful I went to this um, some some kind of, uh, um, asian practice and they were doing like, crazy, like you know, crazy, uh, physical feats, and one of them he died. It was like a car and it was a a rope that he tied on his. I don't know where he tied like, but on his private parts oh no pulling the the car like showing like mind over matter yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean it's impressive, but it's like drastic, but it does show what the mind can do.
Speaker 2:Exactly, exactly.
Speaker 1:And so like and we've talked about this a little bit, just you and I offline, you know it's like, uh, having power of that mind, the things you're saying to your mind, because your mind is so powerful.
Speaker 2:Exactly. I think it really transforms it, even when you're having a bad day or thinking negative thoughts sometimes. I just like to say I'm thankful for X, y and Z Just list a couple of things that I'm thankful for in that moment and something as simple like that. If you practice it, it really does have some sort of energetic effect and it just helps the slightest bit Sometimes when you're on those moments. The slightest bit of help from any type of technique that you're doing is worth it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's another tie-in to the fitness stuff too. It's like getting those little wins. You know like that's a mental thing. You know, for me at this point and I know you're competing so I know it's a little bit different for you but my whole workout thing is for here. It's not for the arm, it's not for you know it's, it's it's for my mind. I need it.
Speaker 2:You know it's like I agree and and uh, one of the things is when you're, when you're at the gym and you're really pushing yourself and really testing yourself and sometimes failing at at weights that you thought you could have done. That kind of practice sets you up for success in life in general. You're going to meet challenges and you're going to know what your limits are. You've already tested your limits and you're ready for a challenge. And every challenge you approach with a little bit more growth and how you learned it, if you approach it in those positive ways. There's certain challenges that we can't get around and we know we've got to face and, um, you know, just just prepping ourselves and talking to ourselves that you know this, this is how we grow um, you know, is a really good approach for those things.
Speaker 1:You know there's certain things I'd love to thank my younger me for. There's certain things I'd like to kick his ass over too. But like a couple of things are like starting weightlifting. You know it's like people are always like Tyler 26 workouts a week and you're like, but here's the thing. I never looked back at last week and said, damn, I wish I would have watched more TV. But am I looking back at like 30 years, whatever now and said glad I picked up that weight, I'm glad I hit that?
Speaker 2:I mean, tell me some things. I mean I say like going into the gym and and eventually transitioning to strength training was, was the best decision I ever made in my life. It's, it's. I'm a completely different person inside. I have the same heart. Um, I always say like I, I have the same heart. Ever since I was a child, I, I, I and I've I've always had an internal dialogue, talk to't want to say, because there's challenges in life, there's a lot of things that I know are coming, and every day I'm just preparing for those challenges and to me, that's fun. I have the brain that I love a challenge and I'm very patient. And what else in life is there except for to push yourself and be the best person that you can be and and and inspire and help people around you? That, to me, that that's really fun.
Speaker 1:What are some other things you'd thank your younger self for doing, getting involved with?
Speaker 2:Um, you know what, um, for my younger self, um, um, you know what I? I guess I I've always had my own mind. You know, I, I've, I've, I've understand, I've understood rules and I've understood, you know, um, you know what is meant, but I've always, you know, just um, just, been open to different perspectives. I think, um, you know, sometimes when you're growing up, you can become attached to you know how your, you know your parents and your environment and what beliefs and things that they have. And you know, so, for some of us, we're good with learning that and we don't want to learn anything else. And you know, I think, a big change in my adult life.
Speaker 2:I moved to the States to pursue mixed martial arts and, you know, get into pre-med and start those journeys and you know, I think it really opened my eyes to move to America. I had, you know, a complete different perspective growing up in Canada and I almost had a distaste for Americans, and out of no experience of my own, just my upbringing and, of course, 6 pm CNN every night definitely persuades that. But I'm very proud of myself for always being open. I've always been open to learn and learn other people's feelings, and there's people who feel, you know, different than than what I can feel, but I'm I'm always willing to understand, and I think that's what makes me a really good doctor too. You know, I I might not be the smartest doctor, um, but um, I put my whole heart into it, I'm very passionate about it. I treat my patients like family, and, you know, I think about my patients. I'm constantly thinking about how I can improve and help, and you know that's um. You know, a part that I really love about myself.
Speaker 1:I have a doctor that changed my life, you know, and when everybody was telling me that I was just getting old and that sort of stuff, and maybe you know, and it's like, and it was cause she cared, it came down to cause she cared. You know, there is what I believe um a cheat code Like. If you really want to like, look into a cheat code and you're looking for that in life and I know a lot of you aren't going to like what I'm about to say but not doing drugs, not smoking and not drinking alcohol, that's the cheat code.
Speaker 2:Yep, I believe it. I believe it. Things that keep you in reality and and just make you feel the process, make you go through the process and feel it, um, absolutely and um, yeah, I mean life's, life's a challenge and it really is a blessing. When you embrace the challenge, it really is a lot of fun and you know, it feels daunting, but when, when you you take the first step and get into it and and just make it your goal, like this is my life, it's it's a lot of fun, it's it's it's it's a lot of fun to believe in yourself and to challenge yourself and you don't put any pressure on yourself. And you know, take people's opinions for what it is, but you know, just understand the opinion that you have of yourself is the most important.
Speaker 1:You know a lot of people, a lot of our friends that you trained at ACS too, you know, it's like a lot of those guys. We'd run um a mountain together. I kill those guys on a, you know, and they'd be always like Tyler, how do you do it? How do you do it? You know? It's like I remember when I was a kid we went and we were rolled a roller coaster. I was like four years old and I was so afraid and my dad goes um, tell it to go faster. I'm here, I am so afraid and he's like tell it to go faster, you know. And it's like, and that's what I used to do when I would work out, you know, and like it felt like I would run that hill or hit the bag or whatever, and I'd say more, give me more pain, you know. And it felt like when it was my idea it was more controllable, you know, and then like that was something that made it like possible to do more than I usually expected I could do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely. I think we all have different ways that we, uh, you know, talk to ourselves when we're doing, um, you know, different, um, different competitions. So I mean, I, I definitely have a way to talk to myself as as well too, and and it certainly is, you know part of just like you could dig deeper, like you've got this. You know, feeling, feeling, just feeling my whole body. I love feeling my whole body and you know, as I'm running, like trying to somehow like change the energy, like you know, I try to be in touch with my energy and and you know, just um, I'm, I'm very imaginative. I've, I've definitely kept my imagination since I was a kid, and I feel that that's very powerful when you, when you do difficult things that, um, you know, not, not not many people do, it is something that you have to have an imagination to to really see yourself.
Speaker 1:you know, going past and being you totally do and like what's amazing is like the right song.
Speaker 2:Cause.
Speaker 1:We've all seen movies and we're feeling so motivated by the movie Cause the music's hitting right, the scene's hitting right, and like if you do that, you could almost do that in the gym. And you know, and for me, like another thing that's been inspiring throughout my life is like everybody telling me I can't do something, or I'll be there on the pull up bar and like Tyler doesn't want to do another pull up, and then I'll think to myself I'm like Tyler, they wouldn't want you to do another pull up. All these people that treated you unfair, your competitors or whatever, they wouldn't want you to do another pull up either.
Speaker 2:That's what helps me get that last pull. It is really strange, actually a so like when I had my first fight. You know I only told, like two friends, I didn't really tell people because it was like I've never fought before, like I don't want to, you know, but I didn't realize it was going to be on TV and big, a big thing. I didn't really look into it. Right, I was, you know. I accepted the fight 12 days later and didn't.
Speaker 2:I watched UFC with my buddies. That was the time where Chuck Liddell and Tito Ortiz all those guys were really big in.
Speaker 1:UFC.
Speaker 2:All my friends we'd watch the UFC fights and all my friends were like, oh, we can fight. You know how guys were? I was just the quiet one, thinking to myself I could probably fight too. They were good.
Speaker 2:So it just fell in my lap. But I do remember that right after that I did that, I was hit with, back to back, just just negativity. I had never experienced negativity like that before and it just it just clicked on me that you know I must be doing something right. You know, like I, you know I I operate with a good heart and there's no reason why I should be getting this hate Like I'm. You know, I always thought like I'm a good person. Like you know, I wanted to inspire women to. You know, it doesn't matter, just get get yourself to a gym, like go train, like get in there. This is booming for women. We can all do it, you know, and I wanted to be that female to, to get everyone to get into it.
Speaker 2:And you know, I did get some females you know, so it just it kind of just kind of turned on me. And you know, fighting is um, you know it's, it's an aggressive sport. So if you, if you um, translate it in your mind as something, as a hateful, you know aggression thing, then then then maybe that can come like that. But, um, yeah, it's, it's, um. I never experienced so much negativity, um, you know, as, as um, you know, I, I, you know, even even to this day, sometimes, I'll, you know, tell it at the right time, or tell it to, you know, the, the, the, the right moment. You know, I feel the energy of the person that I'm talking to and see if that would be something that they would be interested in before I just drop it.
Speaker 1:You know I have times in life where I'm like where's my tribe? Where are these kind-hearted badass people that deep down in they are caring, they're kind, but they're still the people. You wouldn't want to run into a dark alley. You don't want to run into Dr Shell in a dark alley like, but there's still the people you wouldn't want to run into a dark alley.
Speaker 1:You don't want to run into Dr Shell in a dark alley. You know it's like, and and what's amazing about this show is like it does build my tribe, because I have people like you that are kind people, you know, and you know squally, you know, or or the judge that was just on. Everybody in a certain way is their own version of a kind hearted badasses, and that that's what I love about this show. Um, I hope today that you got something out of this, because having any lofty goal in life is going to need a big avatar and, uh, you know, and I don't necessarily mean in size, you know it's going to be somebody that's capable of the task, capable of the race, and you're going to need it for your business, I promise you right now.
Speaker 1:So get a healthy outlet if you're thinking about business, but in life, you know it'll make it better in every single way. So take homes today. What I really want you to get from Dr Shell is get a workout program in some way, shape or form. Get in there right, I also get out there and get a hormone workup. I don't care what age you are, you know. Get that complete check done, just like the car sitting in the garage, you know. Find out everything that's going on, because the more optimally you're running, the more all this stuff works, you know?
Speaker 2:And then on top of that, vitamin D um psyllium husk, positive mindset positive mindset is important for anyone who's starting out or anyone who wants to continue. This is a this is a lifelong goal. Fitness is a lifelong goal. Um, and just just preserving your health and health and longevity it is, is is a lifelong goal, and the sooner we realize that and get into it like, the more you will look back one day and thank yourself.
Speaker 1:There's, uh, something I want to leave you with today, and it is if your heart's in the right place and you fear it, then you have to do it. And I know a lot of you fear the gym, right, but imagine building your avatar into somebody that's more capable. So if your heart is in the right place in something and you fear it, it is the ultimate in growth. Step in the gym tomorrow. If you're in Phoenix, let me know I'll step in there with you. Dr Shell, will you know? We'll get you past the front gate and get you started. Same time hit me up about strength training anatomy. I think it's a great book. They don't pay me for any of that. I just that's what I use to start, and we'll see you next time. I hope this was a fulfilling episode for you, Dr Shell. Thanks so much for coming.
Speaker 2:Thanks so much, I appreciate it, it's fun.
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