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Options After High School: Volunteering
This installment dives into the often-overlooked option of volunteering after high school. While some may consider it an unconventional path, the discussion explores its potential benefits. Volunteering not only provides practical experience akin to a first job but also helps individuals discover their preferences and dislikes, aiding in career decision-making. Moreover, it offers networking opportunities, fosters confidence through practical engagement, and can even serve as a structured pathway to gaining specific skills or exploring career interests. The conversation underscores the importance of being intentional about volunteer commitments, ensuring they align with personal goals and values.
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Hello everybody and welcome back to The One About Careers. This week we're going to be talking about we're continuing our wade through the waters of halves after high school and this one I think is an interesting one and it's talking a little bit about volunteering as an opportunity.
option after high school. And I mean, talk about things that people don't think about doing after high school. This one's, I don't know, do you say it's the top of the list? If people don't think of it, maybe it's the bottom of the list. I mean,
Sarah, Jane, what are your thoughts on doing something like volunteering after high school? Yeah, I think I sort of feel two ways, frankly. So because part of it is our house,
we kind of had a rule. rule that when you were finished high school, if you were not pursuing further education, you were paying us rent. And so that frankly is a motivator for some people to do certain things.
And so, so as a parent, wanting to make sure that my children were. Self -sufficient. Part of me goes, mmm, I'm not convinced this volunteering things get done.
idea. On the other hand, I think that volunteering can be brilliant, because it can. Let's start with one of the first things is that simply,
because frankly, a lot of individuals are going through high school, and not working. So they aren't having their what you and I would have called our first.
jobs. And so volunteering essentially can mimic a first job without the consequences of that. So you can learn behaviors like showing up when you're supposed to show up,
following instructions and doing what you're supposed to do, connecting to other humans because you're doing, you're working with teams, figuring out how to talk to your supervisor.
sort of what I would call basic work behaviors. And the other piece to that is it can also help you understand what you don't like,
which is brilliant. This is this is gold right here. What you don't like is a good thing to figure out. And so if you figure out, you don't actually like to work with people,
brilliant, great. Okay, good. Now we've just eliminated a whole bunch of potential jobs and wanna focus in a different direction, fabulous. If you do find out you like to work with people, maybe you discover there's a certain kind of person you like to work with.
So it's also uncovering some likes. The third piece is around what I would call industry knowledge or an area of concern.
So if you think, mmm, I want to do something about food security or climate change or animal care, this is a great,
very safe way to sort of get into the experience and understand what are the underlying pieces because you don't know,
right? You and I have ended up in situations where we're like, "Oh, that's what it's about." Oh, that's the underlying piece that we never knew. We didn't know we had to see X number of clients who got X number of jobs by X number of date and this kind of time.
We didn't realize that's actually what employment services were about. It was not, you know, it wasn't looking long term. It was very short term.
And this is, oh, so and I'm not saying it's good or bad. I'm just saying it is. So understanding some of those pieces, I think can be really valuable. What do you think?
I, I love all of that. It's so true. A big one for me is Oh, I thought you were just gonna hold it there and go, yep, that's good. That was great. That was fantastic. We're done here. And a big one for me is that it helps you to grow your network.
I never can use something. I talk about over and over and over. How do I stand out? How do I make sure my resume gets noticed? People will take one look at the name of my resume.
They'll know I'm a girl and not want to hire me. How do I, the answer to all of those things, networking. You need to know people who can put in a word for you, who can give you suggestions,
who can give you ideas. And particularly when you're younger and particularly coming out of a pandemic where we were isolated for months at a time, a lot of our kids are really missing those basic conversation skills.
And so volunteering gives you something to talk about with people you wouldn't necessarily talk to. And that is really, really massive. And I think the other benefit is it's all the stuff you're talking about experience.
is experience. And I think we get really caught up in, I have these conversations a lot, I don't know if you do, but when we're talking like resumes and job search, oh,
well, I won't put that on my resume because it was just volunteer. Okay, but what did you do there? And it turns out like, oh, I was doing like intakes for something, or I was canvassing for a political person or whatever.
And it's like, dude, those are amazing skills. to put on a resume. You absolutely want to be talking about that. Whether you got paid or not, the employer does not care.
I call it work experience. It doesn't say paid or unpaid. If it was an employment experience, that's something different. So that's why I do this, you know, that, that nebulous thing.
And I think, you know, you made a great point in terms of networking, you need to know people, but people also need to know you. That's, and if they don't know you, they can't do that recommendation.
And I think the other thing you had touched on it is this idea of confidence. You know, we actually, the most hilarious, frustrating, infuriating piece about confidence is how do we get it?
By fricking doing the thing. - Yeah. - Even if we're doing the thing badly, simply by, doing it, we can step by step build it.
There's no other way to build confidence. You can't sit at your home, you can't meditate, you can't visualize, you can't pray. I mean, you can do all of those things.
You can take courses up the wazoo, you can read books, you can listen to podcasts. Until you're doing it, you don't gain the confidence. That's right. And so I think,
I think where my, my other little hesitation is that I think volunteering should be time limited. I really do. I would agree. Yeah, I would agree with that. And I,
I, I'm not going to put a time limit on it because humans are unique. And each, each individual is going to benefit from different periods.
Some will do great at three months. Some will do great at cupcake. Oh, yeah, he's here. He likes the volunteering conversation. He does all the time.
I'm volunteering how to show you how life could be if you work at I'm gonna volunteer to be a pain in the butt. Exactly. And so I think we need to just be a little bit conscious of that in terms of the timing piece and be intentional.
So the other piece to this, I would say, is if there's a particular skill that you want, then you might actually gain it by volunteering. And so say you're curious about the world of event planning.
Oh my goodness, go for it. a not -for -profit because of course they'll have an event happening. And you could learn all about those kind of pieces to know,
is this something that you would like to do, you know, long -term kind of thing. So it can also be a way like during your career volunteer volunteering can actually be a way to gain some skills that you're gonna market later.
So as you said, in terms of that resume piece, it's very-- - Yeah, and I would say, I would say along those lines, the one caveat is to be wary of volunteering in roles that you actually should be getting paid for.
You know, very often if it's like a for -profit company, and they're like, "Oh yeah, you can volunteer." Like, um. I don't know about that. So you want to be mindful of that. And those are things where,
you know, that's where conversations with the grownups can be helpful. That's where, you know, testimonials from previous folks can be helpful. A little bit of internet research can be helpful.
Because I've definitely had clients where they're like, Oh, I'm volunteering to what I don't remember, like do graphic design or something. And I was like, Oh, that sounds cool. Like, who lets you do that? That's really awesome." And it was like,
some shady company that was basically getting free work out of this poor kid. And I was like, "Oh, no." So you definitely might, but anything, like you go non -profit, it's in charities and stuff, like they're well -established in,
in those kinds of things. Right. So one of the things we want to mention in this phase, too, is internships. So, "internship" is another word for volunteer sometimes. It is structured.
It is formal. It is an opportunity and the whole goal is you're going to learn very specific things. So that could be I would say that would be maybe a different kind of piece where I'd be like,
yeah, and they're not like, I think they're the max is like nine months to a year is kind of the max I wouldn't be doing an internship, and I've got quotations here for any longer.
And you know, there are within various programs there are also what they call placements, right, which is part of the learning of the program,
and it's being mindful I remember one, one of the placement people we had, she was like, Oh, I could photocopy those for you and I was like, I understood. you could. That's not why you're here.
You're here to gain skills that that you need to figure out what your strengths are and where you want to go in this field, because there's so many different options. And I was sort of like,
interesting, that I had said, no to that, because I was like, no, that's not a good, that's not why you're here. And so just just being,
being really aware of what you can do, and there are some structured programs, of course, one of the ones that's coming back, I'm so excited about, Katimovic. They got funding back.
And beginning this summer, it's an immersive program that brings together 11 young adults who share and manage a Katimovic house while living in two different communities.
They participate in 30 hours per week of nonprofit organizations, reconciliation activities with indigenous peoples, and they design and implement community projects.
So that is a volunteer program that I'm just think is a brilliant thing for individuals who are just feeling like they need a little bit more information to know their next step.
Yep. Anything else you want to say about volunteering? No, I mean, I know it's not standard across the country, but certainly in Ontario, of course, students are required to volunteer in order to graduate.
They need to have their community service hours. And I think something that most people, like they do it because they have to. So I would say if you have the option while you're in high school to do something not just because you have.
to but to actually explore use that and if you have finished high school or there's a kid in your house who has finished high school, you know, get out of that mindset. This isn't it's it's for you.
It should be for you to try to explore and at the same time be able to give something back to the community. Yeah. Absolutely. I'm with you. Thanks for coming back to The One About Careers,
and oh, next time we've got, we still have a couple of options for things to do after high school, so you might think we were done, we are not done. We've got other ideas.
- The list goes on.
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