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The One About Careers
Success at Work: Emotional Intelligence
When you enter your workplace, you don't stop being the person that you are. You don't stop feeling whatever you were feeling just before you got there.
That means your emotional intelligence - your ability to recognize and manage your emotions effectively - has a massive impact on your career success.
Join Devon and Sarah-Jane as they discuss what emotional intelligence is, how it can impact your work and their own experiences managing emotional intelligence effectively.
Resources:
How We Feel app - https://howwefeel.org/
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- Careers. So this episode kicks off another little mini series that we're talking about, looking at career success. So there's different elements and what we're gonna take a look at today is emotional intelligence and how does that play into your career?
Sarah-Jane, how are you? I'm fantastic. This is one of my, you know, every episode I feel like this is it. This is the one. Emotional intelligence is just such a key factor in all areas of our life,
not just careers. And it's so important that some school systems are actually focusing on this and another thing called social intelligence, which we'll talk about in our next episode, emotional intelligence.
Oh, man. This is this is the work of our lives, I think, frankly, it's not just the work work. So I'm actually trying a little bit back to just curiosity.
Remember, not a judgment question, curiosity question. What's your like, if you were to describe emotional intelligence to someone? Or to find it? How would you do that?
What would you say? Tough one. I think I think of emotional intelligence as kind of a balance of like your own self -awareness and recognizing your own kind of like emotional cognitive capacity and then how that balances with what's going on around you,
right? Like I would throw in words like empathy, compassion, those to me are things that I think of when I think of emotional intelligence.
How did I do teacher? Not bad, not bad. So the simple explanation of course is that we have emotions and we have intelligence and now what we want to do is combine those two things.
So we're intelligent about our emotions. I've actually been really diving into this emotions piece because I sort of came up with the awareness that I actually don't have many words to describe emotions.
Like, I'm probably relatively confident I've 15 or less. And 15 would be pushing it, I think I might be challenged to name 15 emotions. And so,
interestingly, the inability to identify our emotions is one of our challenges. And so I think that the first piece of this,
of understanding ourselves and understanding others, the first piece is understanding ourselves. What the heck am I feeling? And then what do I do with that thing? And the key-- the thing I always think to remember right now,
is it isn't about repression or suppression, which essentially means burying or not allowing. And it is about acknowledging and then figuring out sort of what to do with that and how to deal with that in the space of time and geography,
geography, I mean, where the heck are you? You know, when my kids were young, they each had something, I have a very clear memory of my daughter having a particular teddy bear,
not to be mean to teddy bears, but this particular one was some for punching. So that, you know, you could get out when you're really Uh, and,
you know, I'm not sure that punching a teddy bear in the middle of a business meeting is really something that's super effective. So, I'm curious a little bit about your vocabulary around emotions and,
you know, has it, yeah, just worry out with that vocabulary. Mine has has been growing. So I have two diagnosed mental illnesses.
And so these are conversations I've had with therapists several times over the years. And it's funny how you talk about not having names because that really is a key to doing this well. And there's there's an app that I use that I really like that we can link in the show notes that aims to do exactly that.
You know, it starts you in one of four zones, you're either high energy, bad, high energy, good, low energy, bad, low energy, good, although it doesn't use those those words specifically.
And, you know, you start by picking a zone and then you can really zero in on a specific feeling and they give you different definitions. It's really, really handy. And it really comes from sort of like a therapist,
the way they would put it is say, name it to tame it. If you want to know what to do, you have to give it a name. So you know what it is. I love that you're saying, you know, in our world,
surprisingly enough, Devon and I aren't young folks anymore. And so just the ability to identify can be challenging. True. And there's we tend to be very generic with the language that we use,
right? And once you start kind of getting more specific um into what exactly you mean you realize that you do actually have a lot of words for it um so it's like you might say something like I'm so pissed off right now but what does that mean and where are you on the scale when you say pissed off are you like a little bit irritated or are you like all the way over to irate raging like there's a scale there And
what I've found with tracking is that there's two things. One is by giving more specific names,
because you have the better language, you often can realize that you're doing better than you think you are, you know, when you're like, "Oh, I'm just angry all the time." Are you a little bit irritated? And then you also start to look at patterns.
So it's like, maybe you seem like you're angry all the time because you always have like a check -in meeting at two in the afternoon. And that's right when you get hangry, right? Maybe you can fix that by having a snack or not skipping lunch,
which maybe is certainly a thing. A lot of people do at work, which is unfortunate, you know, and as you start to recognize like, oh, actually, I'm also hungry. Oh, I also haven't, you know, I haven't really fueled myself very well.
I've been sitting at my desk for X number of hours, maybe before that meeting, if I get a snack and I go for a 10 minute walk, maybe I'm not the grump I think I am. And so having these tracking abilities and having the language to get specific about how you feel,
not only makes it easier to manage in the moment, but it makes you kind of go, wait a second, where can I make a bigger change here to make a longer term impact. Awesome.
So why do we care about this in terms of work, Devin? Why are we talking about this on a podcast called The What About Careers? As you said,
right at the beginning, this is stuff that impacts every single aspect of our lives. You cannot separate as much as we love to talk, I know you love the phrase work life balance,
or as you like to call it life work balance, you cannot separate the two. You can't, right? If you have not a great home life, maybe you're arguing with your partner all the time or one of your kids is going through something or whatever,
whatever, you are carrying that to work with you, whether or not you like it. If you're having a brutal time at work right now, or maybe you're just under a deadline and you're stressed, then you are going to Take that home with you there's really you know as much as we love this idea of like oh I'm gonna shut my laptop at five o 'clock and not think about it some days That's not possible So the more you can be
aware of this stuff The more balance you're going to bring into your work and the more you're going to be mindful of All these other things going on in your life and how they interact with you work Absolutely,
I love that you said you know life impacts work And I remember clearly when my mom was dying and I hadn't even connected to the grief.
And I was reading a Harry Potter book at the time and someone died in it. Fine, read the book, you know, reading the book, get to work. Someone dares to ask me,
as they do in the beginning of the day, how are you? Whoosh, complete utter, like the ugly cry, like just,
and I never connected the two, you know, like before I before she'd ask me that question, and then I fall into pieces, and I'm like, ah, ah, ah, you know,
the great news is, I'm, I'm a bit, I'm a, I'm not judgy about grief. It's not, you know, you were mentioning earlier, you know,
the, not idea about good and bad emotions. Emotions are. And I think, I actually think grief is beautiful because it says that we loved someone. It's awful,
also horrific in terms of sometimes trying to be on this planet without the loved one. And it was just so, so I'm okay with that,
but it was like not appropriate for the ugly cry in the middle of the office. And one gets to process. And so I think it's this,
I love that you said, you know, they both impact. And on the journey that we're on, I think sometimes we are trying to really.
really, in order to be successful at work, figuring out our emotions and managing them are really key.
And understanding, you know, for instance, grief, there's the symptoms of grief are jaw dropping. And I remember after my mother dying,
reading some of them and just going, I'm not crazy. It's like, oh, cool, okay, now I get it. And so now I have way more compassion for other people and understanding in terms of,
wonder if that's grief right there. So the other thing I just wanna mention is one of the number one complaints I hear from employers a lot is about managing their staff or I hate the word managing because I just recently I came up with the idea of inspiring staff.
So it is this challenge of I do hear managers sometimes saying I feel like I'm a counselor sometimes. Because I'm trying to help people,
you know, be productive at work. And they're human beings. So I also, you know, sometimes if I'm a warm, caring human, they're gonna unload.
And it's like, Oh, man, you know, so I think that how emotions packed our work. When we understand them,
as you said, you know, getting glimpses of those, of what they are, where they are, how to manage them. And when I say manage, I mean, really like a healthy management.
And it's funny what's coming to mind to apparently grief plays a large part in my life. When my grandfather died, essentially I was okay at work because I also had made a commitment to myself as on the way home from work,
it was a 15 minute drive, like a ball in my bloody eyes out. And I did that every day and it worked really well because we had a young child at home and I didn't want her surrounded by the grief.
I wanted joy in our life. And And so it's learning these different tools and techniques that work for us. I'm not saying they're all right and perfect. And you're going to have some that work for you.
I'm going to have some that work for me. Our listeners are going to have some that work for them. And it's a beautiful journey that we're on to figure out to be able to identify our emotions and to be able to then know what the heck to do with them so that we can actually of our beautiful best selves in any part of our world.
Work and outside. - Yes, absolutely. - Awesome. Of course, there's always more one can say about all of these things, but we're gonna wrap it up there.
And our next episode will be on social intelligence. Stay tuned for our next episode of The One About Careers.
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