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Ep. 128 Today's Peep Explores Nirvana's (Killer Banana's) Impact on Heavy Metal, Reminisces Deep Purple's 1984 Concert, Reveals a Cherished 45 Record, and Celebrates National Relaxation Day with Moon Healing Insights
Ever wondered if Nirvana's meteoric rise truly spelled the end for heavy metal? Or was it Killer Banana? Join us on a nostalgic musical journey as we ponder this fascinating question and celebrate the unforgettable haunts of classic rock. From sharing my excitement about an upcoming business venture to reminiscing about a memorable Deep Purple concert in 1984, this episode is a whirlwind of reflections and celebrations. We also honor the late Greg Khin, whose hits and my favorite deep tracks left an indelible mark on the music scene, and I reveal a personal story about a cherished 45 record that will feature in our record spin segment.
But that's not all—there are plenty of musical treasures waiting to be uncovered. We delve into Montrose's powerful debut album and Sammy Hagar's standout solo works, including his evocative cover of Donovan's "Young Girl Blues." Plus, as National Relaxation Day is upon us, I'll share some insights from Moon Healing in Auburn and express my heartfelt gratitude to the clients who trust the businesses I support. Whether you're a classic rock aficionado or just love a good story, this episode promises a rich tapestry of musical memories and thought-provoking discussions. Tune in and let the music play!
here we are, my friends. It's the pats peeps podcast number 128. Yeah, after my conversation yesterday in the cigar lounge one of my clients for pats peeps businesses I did realize that people don't like a long intro. If you're going to do an intro on your podcast, don't be going on and on 57 obnoxious sound bites, or what have you Just get to it, baby, how you doing? Hey man, it's a Thursday. It's a Thursday. This is Pats Peeps Podcast number 128.
Speaker 1:As I gaze out of my studio windows, today, on this Thursday this would be the 15th day of August it's a little breeze out there. It's still hot though we're still in hot temps, but it's got a slight breeze, but a lovely day nonetheless. A lot to get to today. Let me start by saying this this is a big day behind the scenes for Pat's Peeps in a big way, something I've been waiting for for a while, looking forward to trying to make happen. So this is behind the scenes and you're about to find out about it and, geez, I'm really happy. So in the next I don't know I'm going to go to Ireland. 20 days and counting before I head to Ireland. Please, if you're listening to me right now and you're thinking about this Ireland trip. Three seats three or four seats are left. Please go to Conservative Tours and go with us, because we're going to have a blast as we visit Ireland September 5th to the 15th. It's conservativetourscom. Please talk to Ken Chase. I'd really love that.
Speaker 1:But where was I going with all of that? I don't even know how I drifted into that. How did I drift into that? What was I saying? I don't know. I kind of got lost. I started thinking about Ireland. But listen, okay, 20 days.
Speaker 1:Oh, the excitement of the business news I have behind the scenes. You're going to hear it. I'm not going to announce it here, but you're about to hear it. And if you listen to my radio show, I host the Pat Walsh Show on KFPK, as heard everywhere on your free iHeart app nationally, internationally, locally, in Sacramento, at KFPK 7 to 10 pm. We have very, very happy clients and customers, both. I got a call yesterday from someone by the name of Nora who was inquiring about one of the businesses I support, and she trusts me. She knows I trust this business, and so she was asking about the business so that her mother could use it. Her mother is looking to put in some cabinets and I have a business that I work with that does that. So I really appreciate it when people trust my businesses that I represent. So thank you to Nora. But, yeah, exciting stuff behind the scenes.
Speaker 1:Now it's also what do we have? National relaxation day. Did you know that today's national relaxation day? So, whatever you do, if you can find a way to relax, then I encourage you to do so. Relax if you can. I've been going to Moon Healing in Auburn to learn relaxation techniques.
Speaker 1:Melissa, moon Moon Healing. She's awesome If you want to learn how to relax. This is another one of Pat's Peeps' clients that you will get a great deal from. All you have to do is go talk to her about her business. Say you know I was listening to Pat Wall.
Speaker 1:She has this podcast, pat's Peeps. I understand you're one of his Peeps' businesses. She's awesome and she's taught me really how to relax. Now I always think I'm relaxed, but she's taught me really new techniques that I had never explored before. So, melissa, thank you. Quaint, beautiful little place she has there in beautiful Old Town, auburn. If you're ever interested in talking to her, tell them, like I say that you're a Pat's Peep, that you listen to my podcast. She's fantastic, but so a day to relax. By the way, our record spin that I'm going to do at the end of today's podcast is very meaningful to me, really hits a soft spot in my heart and it's a great tune, and it just so happens that it is one of my personal 45s.
Speaker 1:I always mention that many of these 45s I collected over the years from other people. I collected many of them from a radio station. I used to work at a majority of these. But you know, initially I had my own 45s. As a kid. Growing up I had my own 45s. Or as an adult, this is one of mine I picked out today. I just randomly plucked it from the stack and this is what I came up with. But again, it has a lot of meaning to me, so I'll get back to that.
Speaker 1:I want to start by saying I am really sorry and very sad to hear the news of the passing of Greg Kin. Have you heard this? Greg Kin, the Greg Kin Band. I was listening to Eddie Trunk today. I was actually calling Eddie. Eddie does a national rock and roll radio show. He doesn't play rock, he talks about rock, and so I always have a lot to talk with Eddie about, but I heard him announce the passing of Greg Kin.
Speaker 1:You know Greg Kin had some big hits along the way, really memorable hits and some great music. You would probably, I would imagine if you've been around for a while, remember songs like. In fact I know I played this song on my show recently. Eileen, who was a listener of my show, said what was that song you just played? And I went back and told her that it was Jeopardy by the Greg Kin band.
Speaker 1:So, like I say, if you've been around a while, you know this song. Where were you when I needed you? You could not be found. But can I do? Oh, I believe in you. You're running me around. You can take it as a warning or take it Any way you like.
Speaker 1:I mean, greg Kinn had a knack for writing really catchy hooks, really catchy songs. I mean just memorable. Again, I always have to say it. I guess I don't have the rights to these songs. I'm simply paying tribute to this great man and exposing him, trying to educate my great listeners on music, many of which already know this stuff. I have to say that Save your money now. It's hanging on the frame, don't let go. I'm feeling good. Today this song makes me feel really good. You know it holds so long, it's so hard, but it wasn't the only song Greg Kin had a hit with. And you talk about catchy tunes, memorable tunes. If you go back to I think it was 1981. I can remember exactly where I was, exactly where I was working, working at Musco Olives in Orland, california, and I remember driving on the forklift or doing whatever I had to do and listen to this song. It was a huge hit, very, very catchy song this is the breakdown song.
Speaker 1:hold on a second. Let me start that for me. You know that song. We'll start from the beginning. Here we go. So catchy man. I love that rhythm. I love that rhythm that they had. But there was a certain period of that. I can't ride like that anymore. They just don't ride like that anymore. We've been living together for a million years. They used to have that driving rhythm, a lot of songs like that. So catchy, you can't help but to go. So. Greg Kin I heard the news today, very, very sad.
Speaker 1:I didn't know he was 75 years old either. I saw him live up for the Tubes, saw him a couple of times, saw him on the beach, I think in Santa Cruz one time. But I remember seeing him at the Memorial Auditorium opening for the Tubes and I remember thinking, geez, you know, yeah, the Tubes are great. But you know this Greg Kin guy, he's good man. You know what other song I like by him? Oh, I just thought of this one. I got to play it. I just thought of it. He had a song that. That's the first time I ever heard it. It was a song called Madison Avenue. Man, I got to play that for you real quick. That's a great tune. I just thought about that one. Pardon me, I'm kind of losing my voice a little bit. I hope you can. Here we go, madison Avenue. Man, great kid, this was always. I saw it first. I never heard it on the radio prior to seeing it live in concert and I just remember thinking, man, this is a cool tune.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's so good. The city may burn, but I'll keep my cool. I'm the best of days.
Speaker 3:I'm in the school. I'm the Madison Avenue man. I can make your banisteries part of my plan. I'm the Madison Avenue man. Let me touch your money with my Madison hand. All right, yeah, great song. I haven't heard this in a while. Let me touch your money with my Madison hand.
Speaker 1:All right, yeah, great song man, I haven't heard this in a while. So, going back to 1999, if I may 1999, being in radio, ford decided to fly us out to the Palm Desert to drive these brand new Mustangs. It was the new Mustangs that had come out that year, so they wanted us to test drive. They flew us down in Learjets. It was me, armstrong and Getty and a few other people. They fly us down there. Joey Mitchell, the late Joey Mitchell, which makes me so sad that we don't have Joey now. He's passed away, great radio legend, and at one point they were going to have us team up in these Mustangs and I'll never forget here pulls up this yellow Mustang and the guy, the emcee, goes ladies and gentlemen, I'm now driving a yellow Mustang and they would team you up with someone else from the thing. And they go.
Speaker 1:Now driving is Greg Kin from the Greg Kin Band and sitting passenger riding with Greg Kin before he took my turn. At that time I was the sports guy, the sports guy, pat Walsh, and, oh my God, I go, greg Kin, greg Kin, greg Kin. He's like yeah, man, I go. Man, listen, I'm a fan, I am a fan. I said I can't believe. I've seen you a couple times and now I'm going to get to race a Mustang with you, and he was in radio.
Speaker 1:So we both chatted about radio. Here's exactly what the conversation was, but it's been again 1999, but I remember this. I said one of the things. I said we talked radio and then I said you know, you know what my favorite songs are by you. Right away he says Jeopardy Big hit, right by the way. Jeopardy, 1983, went to number two on the national charts and became a huge staple of MTV.
Speaker 1:But you had him in 1981, as I mentioned the breakup song. So he went to number 15 with that. So he says, well, it's a breakup song. I said no, I said Madison Avenue man, which I just played, and I said a song called Do you Remember and I'll never forget him, looking at me and going you really are a fan, said yes, sir, I'm a fan. He said for you to even really know those songs particularly, do you remember. He says that really, that impresses me, that tells me something. I said yeah, it was. You know I'm paraphrasing, but he loved the fact that I said that I knew these songs. This is, it's called, actually Remember, not Do you Remember, but within the song that's what he sings. But this is a beautiful tune. Never Got Airplay.
Speaker 3:This is my favorite song by Greg Kim. Thank you, guitar solo. Silverbird takes off in the night, another's coming in In every window it lights as every night begins. One thing stays on my mind as I look back on the times I guess it just couldn't last. I feel it's fading fast. Do you Remember? Do you Surrender, do you?
Speaker 1:Remember how it feels. This song is from his album Next of Kin Very clever play on his last name, which is what Greg Kin did. His album names were Next of Kin, conspiracy, citizen Kin and so on. True Confessions, you get it. Beautiful song.
Speaker 1:He's passed away at the age of 75. He was on Berserkly Record label. He actually was grateful to Weird Al Yankovic for giving his number two hit even more of an afterlife than otherwise would have had. He loved his version of I lost in Jeopardy, greg Kent. Here's a little bit more of this song. Here we go, just to let you know he lost his battle. This makes me so sad. He lost his battle. This makes me so sad. He lost his battle with Alzheimer's disease. Isn't this beautiful? This song has a great ending to it. It's a long song, I know, and I don't want anyone to be mad from the record company or anything. I just love the guy and I'm just trying to honor him and pay tribute, but it's got such a great ending to this song, company or anything. I just love the guy and I'm just trying to honor him and pay tribute, but it's got such a great ending to this song, kind of reminiscent of Mark Knopfler on the guitar right there to me.
Speaker 1:Remember how it felt. The ending of this song right here will work into our National Relaxation Day. At least it will for me. I don't know about you. You might even hate the song. I hope not. It's so great kid. I'm just really sad. He's a good looking dude too, you know, just really had it. He had everything going for him. Here you go Great ending. I'm gonna miss Greg Kinn. God rest you, brother. I am so honored to have met that man and thank you, sir, for your wonderful songs, for being a great guy. When I got to meet you I was very, very impressed.
Speaker 1:Greg kin, how about a couple of other musical things today? Today I mentioned, uh, eddie trunk. I mentioned him quite often. I could sit down for hours, talk with Eddie Trunk. If you don't know who he is, he used to host that metal show on on tv which was, uh, they talked about heavy metal music. But so he's really into heavy metal and he's into hard rock and all of that and he's a great guy and I call his show like people call my show, and we have these conversations, and today I was mentioning to Eddie that I'm going to be going to see the best of all worlds, which is happening tomorrow locally in our area.
Speaker 1:It's been going on for some time, but the best of all worlds is Sammy Hagar, michael Anthony from Van Halen, joe Satriani on guitar and Jason Bonham, the son of John Bonham, on the drums. I may have mentioned this yesterday, so I'm really looking forward to seeing this show. It will be my 14th time of seeing Sammy, as I may again have mentioned either on my show or on the podcast I can't remember which one but yeah, I've seen him with Montrose. I've seen him solo. I saw him on the Rising Star shows where you had to pay just a dollar A dollar and I'm really looking forward to it. So when I say the best of all worlds, what that means is that they are going to be playing the best of you know, some of the Van Halen stuff. They're going to be playing Sammy's solo stuff and, much to my joy and happiness, if that made any sense they're going to be playing some Montrose.
Speaker 1:I love Montrose. If you go back. You know I love Montrose. If you go back, you know Montrose had a great record. They had Rock Candy on the first album, the debut Make it Last, which is one of my favorite tunes by them Bad Motor Scooter it was a great record and one that's been heard and played a lot and it's just a classic. Great record and one that's been heard and played a lot and it that's, it's just a classic. But they also had, you know, on the on their second record was Sammy Hagar, maybe overall not as good of a record as the debut but nonetheless a couple of gems on that record. One of those and I was telling Eddie that one of my favorite vocals by Sammy was when he was with Montrose that second record, paper Money, when they did a Jagger Richards composition by the name of Connection. His vocals are superb in this song, hey.
Speaker 2:Everything is going In the wrong direction. Doctor wants to give me more injection yeah, more injections. Yeah, giving me shots For a thousand Rare infections, and I don't know If he'll let me go? Yeah, I just can't make no connection. Guitar solo oh no, all I want to do Is get back to you.
Speaker 1:Keith Richards and Mick Jagger wrote that song. That is Sammy Hagar singing with Montrose. It's the Paper Money album, which is again great jams on that one. Really cool tunes on that record. And, being a Sammy fan, as I said, I've seen him in so many different ways with, like I mentioned, solo and Montrose. And just one more little taste of Sammy Songs that never get played by Sammy Hagar this is my favorite song. It's actually a Donovan song. Sammy covering Donovan Song called Young Girl Blues Just awesome.
Speaker 2:Thank you when it's Saturday night, but it feels like a Sunday in some ways. If you had innocence, you'd maybe go away For a few days. I'll be dead. As it may, you can say that you're just lonely.
Speaker 1:Groovy tune, though I just dig it, man. I asked I asked Eddie Trunk today Whatever happened to Gary Peele. Gary Peele is this guitarist right here playing for Sammy. Last time I saw Gary he was playing with Boston. I saw him at Cal Expo. I said that's Gary Peeele playing with Boston up there.
Speaker 2:But don't touch yourself too much Because they say it's degrading.
Speaker 1:Anyhow you get it. I like this 17 years old. I'm just putting this on my headphones, like I am right now, now that I'm 27. I would just get into that song. Anyhow, man, sorry, I'm trying to. I don't want to have YouTube bring me down or nothing, don't bring me down.
Speaker 1:YouTube. Oh man, no, what happened there? Oh no, I just gave away my final song. I accidentally hit my elbow on the turntable. All right, well, you know what the final song is. My goodness, I have this new desk and I just hit the turntable. I had it cued and it just started. I hit the button on the turntable. Well, there you go, giving away my final song. I was going to do a couple of other things, but you know what? I think I'll save those for my show tonight. No, you know what? I'm going to play a tease for one of these. I'll just play a tease for one of the things I'm going to do on my show tonight. I'll do one of the stories Okay, the last, because Eddie was talking about the fact that when even classic rock bands come out with a new record and then they come out in concert and you buy a ticket, then there's that time they play the new stuff and the new stuff and everyone kind of goes I don't know what this is, what is this?
Speaker 1:And they go to the intermission or they go to the bathroom, or they go get a beer or what have you. Because they don't. They're not. Everyone wants the hits. I've never been the guy that wants the hits. I want the hits, but what I? But I want the deep cuts. I want to hear some of your new stuff. So the last time that I personally can remember going to a concert where the new stuff got played and it turned out to be huge and everyone was loving the new stuff I remember loving it, 1984. Deep Purple, perfect Strangers, and this went on to be huge and they hadn't done anything. The original line-in with Richie and Ian and Ian and John Lord and Roger Glover. They hadn't even been together in a long time. Then they come out with this. I mean, it just caught on immediately. Can you remember?
Speaker 3:remember my name as I flow through your life. A thousand oceans I have known.
Speaker 1:So we'll talk a little bit about that tonight. Perfect Strangers and you know, and whether people want those new songs or the new albums and want to hear it, or whether they just want to stick to the ones that every single person can remember all the words to. I'll also talk about this. Like, nirvana changed everything musically right in the early 90s, didn't they? But wait a minute, when you really think about it, did Nirvana change things musically then, to where the heavy metal bands after that, or hair bands, no longer had a shot because Nirvana was the new grunge, it was a new thing. Did they change it or did Killer Banana change it? That's what I'm asking. What do you mean, patrick? Well, here's Nirvana, but that came out many years after killer banana. Did cultural amnesia? Let's take a listen, shall we? They've got a little open, a little intro that you'll hear and then pay attention.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Is it just me? Is it just me or you know? All right, I'm going to wrap this thing up because I've got business meetings which are super exciting to get to today. I promise you you're going to hear more about it. You already heard what song it is. I gave you a little hint, I didn't even mean to. I queued it back up.
Speaker 1:Song written by I might as well just tell you Elton John, it's Daniel. It's perhaps my favorite song, or certainly at the very top from my favorite Elton John tunes. Wrote it with Bernie Topp in his long time Songwriter. Performed by Elton, his first, released on his 73 album. Don't Shoot Me, I'm just a piano, I'm only the piano player.
Speaker 1:In the UK, song reached number four on the official charts. The US, the song went to number two on the pop charts, only held from number one by what song? My Love by Paul McCartney and Wings Went to number one, though on the adult contemporary charts for two weeks in the spring of 73. Us certified gold September of 95 of 95, platinum May of 2018. Canada became the second number one single following Crocodile Rock earlier in that year, holding the position for two weeks number one, single, and that was, you know, 1973. This came out Now for me in 1972 to 1973, we have six kids in the family.
Speaker 1:Everything is great, mom and dad are together. Suddenly, 1971, my dad and mom get a divorce. They're six kids. For me, I'm the oldest kid I'm not exactly although I have my suspicions, but I'm not going to say it here. No one cares. I mean, it's not really, it doesn't matter, but the third oldest boy me, then Jim and then Steve, and then there's Tim and two girls.
Speaker 1:Steve suddenly went to Canoga Park to live with my Aunt Donna and Uncle Bill and he lived there for a year, for whatever reason. It was very strange. Suddenly my brother, who we're growing up with, is no longer living with us for this particular year, but living with my aunt and uncle in Canoga Park. So he I can't remember exactly how it happened. I think he just told me that he would sit in the classroom, so he must have been probably third grade at the time, and he said, pat, I would sit, you know, in class in Canoga Park and I would cry a lot of times because I would always think of my older brother.
Speaker 1:For some reason I always thought about you. I missed everyone, but I thought about you because you were my oldest brother and it would make me cry and that really touched me, you know, and so and I loved the song. So here it is from my personal collection. So there is no, and it even says 1972 on this record, mca Records with the rainbow blue colored record. This is not a radio DJ promo. This was mine, so this has been played many, many times. So, without further ado, let's go ahead and put it on the turntable and play Daniel by by elton john daniel is driving tonight on a plane.
Speaker 2:I can see the red teal lights Heaven is spying on. I can see Daniel waving goodbye. God, he looks like Daniel.
Speaker 3:Must be the clouds in my eyes. Daniel says it's the best places I could ever see, and he should know he's been there enough.
Speaker 1:Lord, I miss Daniel. Oh, I miss him so much. Oh, Daniel, my brother. I see the PG&E are here getting ready to remove this monstrosity of an ugly pole. They just knocked on my door. Somebody go out and visit them in a moment. Make sure they're doing this right. Beautiful song, man. I hate to interrupt a beautiful song like that With that news. Ah, that song has just so much meaning to me. Right there, man. I'm gonna flip it over. See what's on the other side. I'm not sure if I remember this song. It's been a long time. Skyline Pigeon by Elton John. Not sure if I remember how this one goes. Maybe it'll come to me. So let's flip it over and play Skyline Pigeon. Here we go.
Speaker 3:Wow, wow, distant lands Over green fields.
Speaker 1:Trees and mountains, flowers and forest fountains. Man, that is beautiful, that's just great.
Speaker 2:Hold on the lanes of the skyway. Amen, amen, amen, amen.
Speaker 3:Amen, amen, amen, amen Amen.
Speaker 2:Amen, amen, amen, amen, amen, amen, amen, amen, amen, amen, amen, amen, amen, amen, amen, amen, amen, amen, amen.
Speaker 1:Amen, amen, boy, it's hard to go wrong with an early Elton John tune. You flip it over the flip side's as good as I think it was either Crocodile Rock or Honky Kat. One of those had Elderberry wine on the other side. It was really great, skyline Pigeon. I love this. Thank you for listening, my friends. I greatly appreciate all of you. Good news, more good news on the way very soon with Pat's Peeps. Thank you for listening to Pat's Peeps podcast number 128.
Speaker 2:See you on the radio.
