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Ep. 161 Today's Peep It's Red Tamale Thursday and Darlyne "with a y" stops by with Chicken Pot Pies, Border Czar Tom Homan Keeps It Real vs. AOC in a Spirited Exchange, and Reconsider Me in Today's Record Spin
Step into my cozy Northern California studio as we embrace a crisp November day filled with warmth and nostalgia. From the cherished Red Tamale Tuesdays of the 1950s to Darlyne's mouthwatering Chicken Pot Pie Thursdays, our journey through delicious memories is sure to spark your culinary curiosity. But it's not all about the treats—our conversation meanders into the realm of current affairs, touching on a notable spat between Tom Holman and AOC regarding immigration, setting the stage for a deeper discourse.
With a thoughtful shift, we navigate the complex landscape of illegal immigration on the U.S. southern border. Highlighting the dire need for legislative reform, we explore the frustrations and challenges faced by those on the frontline of border enforcement. From tackling human trafficking to addressing asylum loopholes, this episode underscores the importance of bipartisan solutions for meaningful change. Join us as we dissect proposals for Congress, such as revising the Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act and the Flores Settlement Agreement, aiming to ensure fair and humane border policies. Engage with us as we balance light-hearted banter with serious, impactful discussions, inviting you to reflect on the compelling issues of our time.
Welcome, welcome, welcome, my friends, to the Bats Peeps podcast. On a Thursday, the 14th day of November 2021, I love it when you guys write to me and you say Pat, pat, pat, pat, I'm cleaning my house and doing some stuff and I'm binging the peeps, I'm peeping man, I'm peeping and cleaning, peeping and cleaning. Thank you, I'm peeping and cleaning, peeping and cleaning. Thank you to Allison for peeping and cleaning. Thanks to all of you for listening to the Bats Peeps podcast, where it is the 14th day of November 2024.
Speaker 1:And as I peer out of my studio windows into the foothills of Northern California, it's the cloud cover coming in now. It's been a sunny morning, it's been kind of cool, but a sunny morning. But now here we are at about we are at 321 and the cloud cover's rolling in. So we may have rain again tonight and, what I understand, they're expecting some snow, maybe tomorrow and into the weekend, maybe at the 6,000 foot level, maybe at the, I don't know. At one point I guess at the 4,500 foot level. So, yep, it's creeping in on us right now. It's geez, it's going. We barely have had a fall. It was like from summer, where it was like 102 degrees there at the end and then had a little bit of fall and then now it's going to start snowing, so, but anyhow. So, yeah, uh. So here we are, pat's peeps 161 that the peeps numbers are growing every podcast. Now I've really noticed it in the last couple of weeks. Every day we are adding more and more people, more and more peeps, to our podcast. Thank you for being one of our peeps. That we just great. I greatly appreciate it. Someone's knocking knocking at my door over here.
Speaker 1:It's a thursday and I'm eating my pot pies. Thank you to darlene with a y. It's usually pot pie tuesdays, but it's a thursday because I've been busy all week with the American River flooring up here, painting in my house and just all kinds of stuff, and then my physical that I told you about and then all my. I had to go get my blood drawn the day before, so that put out Chicken Pop Pie Tuesday. I made a Chicken Pop Pie Thursday. Thank you, darling with a Y, you're welcome, are they? Thank you, darling with a Y, you're welcome. Are they chicken pot pies or are they turkey pot pies? They're chicken pot pies chicken pot pies.
Speaker 1:She brings them every week. I look forward to it. Everyone says Tuesdays are like Tuesday's a nothing day, whatever.
Speaker 2:Tuesday used to be red tamales day, and then chocolate Tuesday remember no, red tamale day, well, you know. Tuesday used to be Red Tamales Day, and then.
Speaker 1:Choco Tuesday, remember no.
Speaker 2:You don't remember Red.
Speaker 1:Tamales Day Red Tamales.
Speaker 2:Day? No, I don't remember. Oh, in the 50s, on Tuesday, tuesday was.
Speaker 1:Red Tamales Day. I did not exist in the 50s. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2:But you know a lot of the 50s.
Speaker 1:And then she brought me some other treats today besides the chicken pot pies, and it's now, I don't remember Red Tamale Tuesday.
Speaker 2:I wish I did. It was a big deal it was a big commercial.
Speaker 1:How did it change to Taco Tuesday?
Speaker 2:I don't know Red Tamale's. A lot of them had little tamale carts on all the streets in Oakland. Oh they still do. You'd buy 12 for a buck. I mean they were Oakland, oh, they still do. You'd buy 12 for a buck. I mean they were excellent oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:They're everywhere now and they're an elk grove of my hometown, just people pushing these carts around. Yeah, anyhow, that's a whole different topic. So, yeah, it's now Chicken Pot Pie Tuesdays. Yes, I know what it is, yes, and then you brought me some. What did you get me? Apple fritter.
Speaker 2:Apple fritter and some Reese's.
Speaker 1:See, and I'm not even a sweets person but the Reese's I do like, and the Reese's is one of the very few candies I actually like. Heath bars Reese's Payday Zero. They don't even make zero.
Speaker 2:But I found out Reese's makes another candy bar called Outrageous. It is so good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, allison bought me a Reese's peanut butter cup that had potato chips in it. Really Ruffles. Wow, you tried those. Those would be good. What else did she bring me, though? You brought me, oh, some of the hot chips, spicy chips. What are they? Well, some of them are chips and some are Cheetos.
Speaker 1:We got the extra hot hers Carolina Reaper, which I love. Oh, both of them are. Yeah, these are the Cheeto versions. Oh, I love these. These are so good. They're not health food or anything. Oh, they're so good With a nice, healthy Coca-Cola Anyhow. Thank you, darlene, with a Y.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're welcome.
Speaker 1:Meanwhile in other news, in worldly news, tom Holman. Tom Holman is Donald Trump's border czar, the acting director of ICE, facing off with the AOC, and I just thought it was wonderful, mr.
Speaker 4:Homan, I'm a father. Do you have children? How can you possibly allow this to happen under your watch? Do you not care? Is it because these children don't look like children that are around you? I don't get it. Have you ever held a deceased child in your arms?
Speaker 5:first of all, your comments are disgusting.
Speaker 4:I've served my country for 34 years.
Speaker 5:I find your comments disgusting, as well, I've served my country for 34 years and, yes, I held a five-year-old boy in my arms that, in fact, that tractor trailer. I knelt down beside him and said a prayer for him Because I knew what his last 30 minutes his life was like, and I had a five-year-old son at the time. What I've been trying to do my 34 years serving my nation is to save lives. So if you just sit there and insult my integrity and my love for my country and for the in for children, that's why this whole thing needs to be fixed and you're the member.
Speaker 4:We agree on that, fix it, we agree on that, but I disagree.
Speaker 5:But I also disagree with your characterization of the gentleman gentlemen, time is inspired, it's my time now, mr chairman it's my time but I just the gentleman.
Speaker 8:It's my time now, mr Chairman. It's my time. The gentleman ripped off about seven different questions designed to go at the character of Mr Holman, and Mr Holman should be given a chance to respond. It was ridiculous the way he just rattled them all off and wouldn't let him respond to them.
Speaker 7:Let me say this I understand that, but first of all, I'm going to have civility in my hearings. All right, I agree, I agree, I have the floor. I understand and I agree with you. I'm going to have civility. That's why I was banging, so that we could hear each person speak. I have been very courteous and very kind. Now, mr Holman, do you have something to say?
Speaker 5:No one in this room has seen what I've seen in my 34 year career. Very well, no one has experienced what I've experienced. I've saw many dead bodies coming across this border. You want to talk about the memo? This memo is one option to stop death, not just about enforcing the law. Stop death. If you want to legalize illegal immigration, good luck with that, because it's gonna get a hell of a lot worse on that border. If you'd say, well, from now on there will be no consequence, no deterrence. It's not illegal to come to this country illegally, more families will come, 31% women will be raped, more children will die. We're a nation of laws. If you don't like it, sir, change it. You're the legislator, I'm the executive branch and I've served my country honorably for 34 years and I will not sit here and have anybody say that I don't care about children because they're not the same color as my children.
Speaker 7:Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr Comer.
Speaker 6:We have to get serious about this problem at the border. Mr Holman, you're clearly an expert. What can Congress do to fix this problem?
Speaker 5:They can close loopholes in asylum to make it meaningful. They can change the TVPRA, where children of Mexico, the children of Central America, are treated the same way as children of Mexico. Once it's ascertained they're not a victim of trafficking, they can be removed and they need to change the Florida Settlement Agreement. And I'm sitting here and let me explain to you why I'm sitting here so frustrated, because I'm the only one in this room was wore a green uniform and been on that line. I'm the only one this room was found dead aliens on a trail that were abandoned by smugglers who just left them there because if they weren't worth any money anymore. I'm the only one in this room that stood in back retractor trailer, surrounded by 19 dead aliens, including five-year-old little boy that suffocated in death in his father's arms. I was there and I saw and I smelled it and it's terrible and I still. I still have nightmares to this Day. I was in Phoenix, arizona, when you couldn't pay the smuggling fees, you were tortured. You're one person was stabbed in the face 22 times because you couldn't pay a smuggling fee.
Speaker 5:And we keep talking about open borders, abolish ice. Let's not detain anybody. Let's let everybody go. That entices more people to come. Let's let everybody go. That entices more people to come. This isn't just about enforced law, it's about saving lives. I found enough dead bodies in my day. I got a stack of dead bodies here. I've seen a lot of pictures today, but no one wants to see these pictures because they're angel moms and dads. These children were died here at the hands of people that crossed the border.
Speaker 5:Because we have an open border, the more we entice people to make this journey, more women of 31% of women are being raped. Children are dying, and I said months ago if we don't close the loopholes, more women will be raped, more children die. But it's like. It's like no one's listening. Well, mr, fix this, sir. We can fix this. There's three things we can do to fix this in Congress. If they don't like what I said, cbp, do then, do your job, fix it.
Speaker 5:Congress has failed American people. For three decades I've been doing this job and fixing this. They'd rather point to the men and women of the board, to the men and women of ICE, who have an American flag on their shoulder and serve their nation. I'm extremely frustrated because what I've seen today is misleading the American people. People are dying, not in ICE custody. If you compare people dying in ICE custody to every state federal system, we got the lowest rate. We got a hell of a lot lower rate than the city of New York. But no one wants to talk about us. We need to save lives. We need to secure our borders. Nothing wrong with this side of the aisle is serious about securing the border.
Speaker 6:The president is serious about securing the border and I hope that my colleagues on the other side of the aisle will get serious about securing the border so we can have a real solution to the problem that we have at the southern border. Mr Chairman, I yield back Mr Jordan.
Speaker 8:Mr Holman, the actions you took when you were director of ICE were entirely consistent with the law of the land, weren't they? Yes?
Speaker 5:When someone's prosecuted for a crime, the child can't go to jail with the parent. Yeah, that happens to American families every day.
Speaker 8:Yeah, and if we, as you said, I think, earlier, if we don't like the law last time I checked it's the folks sitting up here got to change it. Yeah, and you've offered, I think, no more than four times, three changes to the law that would help the situation. Is that right? Yes, sir, maybe make it a fifth time. Can you say it a fifth time for this group? Just you know, because again we're the ones that have to change the law. So give us that recommendation a fifth time, the three things that we've got to do.
Speaker 5:If we would close the loopholes in the TVPRA, where children in Central America are treated the same as children in Mexico. If we would change the Florida settlement agreement so we can actually detain families in a family setting long enough to see a judge and plead their case. If we can change the rules of asylum, so it makes more sense. So 90% of the people don't pass the first interview and a lot fewer pass in front of a judge. Those three things would make a big difference on the border and decrease the illegal entry.
Speaker 8:Because those three things go to the heart of the matter. They go to the incentive. Is that right?
Speaker 5:They go to the incentive along with the other things, such as talking about abolishing ICE, having no detention, free education, free medical care, citizenship for those who are here illegally. When you keep offering incentives for people to come to sanctuary cities, come to this country, you'll be protected from ICE. As long as you keep having this language, more people who are vulnerable people are going to keep trying to come.
Speaker 1:Thomas Homan. He is the acting director of ICE. He will be Donald Trump's border czar. And, speaking for myself, boy am I glad. I'm super happy to hear that that man takes his job seriously. He just shamed the you know, the first gentleman, mr Garcia, who made a racist comment. Of course, it always comes down to this garbage of people that don't look like you. You know, you hear that now, people that don't look like you or you're the other side, people that look like me, used to be that when you said that you'd hear. Well, what we all look the same. Isn't that ridiculous? It's ridiculous the racist trash slung towards this man for doing his job. It's disgusting. They always got to go to the race card here on Pat's Peeps 161.
Speaker 1:I'm going to pull out. I pulled out a musical selection today, pulled it out. I said, let me close my eyes, pull a record out of my rare 45 collection. Um, and this record I pulled out today is still in its picture sleeve. It's very nice. By the way, I have to say this picture sleeve is in pretty good shape. Um, I don't even see like the record ring or anything in the in the paper. You'll see that where it you know kind of wears and you'll see the ring of the record right there on the picture sleeve. Beautiful red roses on this picture sleeve, very nice. So this one.
Speaker 1:I can already tell you that I love this artist, but I know this was not a hit. It was not a hit. This is not. It was not a hit. I I'm not even sure if I've heard this song. Uh, it is a single from this artist from 1987, from the album sentimental hygiene. That's a great name. That's a great name for a record Sentimental Hygiene. Anyone know what it is already based off of? Just the title of the record.
Speaker 1:Just as I said, the song did fail the chart. I mean most of the records I would imagine in my collection failed the chart. I mean you'd think, wow, they're all hits. No, no, no, most of them are like this Maybe good songs, but didn't chart. But it did become a live staple in this artist's concert performances. Matter of fact, in 2006, there was a set of love songs were released under the same name with the name of the song slash the love songs.
Speaker 1:So in 1984, this artist presented this song to Jimmy Levine, who gave the song to Stevie Nicks, and then it was recorded for her 1984 album Mirror Mirror, and the album was pulled from release and the song was then left unreleased until 1998,. Nicks then released her box set enchanted and stevie's saying. Stevie nicks saying uh, in the enchanted box set that quote, jimmy levine uh brought, brought me this song. I think jimmy and I were fighting at the time for some reason wasn't in a very and then the title of the song state of mind, I don't want to give it away just yet. I think they'll keep it a mystery for a moment. Stevie Nicks says I don't think Jimmy ever forgave me for not trusting his judgment.
Speaker 1:Nicks was given a co-writing credit despite having made only insubstantial lyric changes to the song. You know, word here, word there. Maybe moved a couple of verses around, maybe a couple of choruses changed it slightly and then, um, maybe they're. Some people might say that the co-credit for stevie nicks was just kind of due to the anticipation of an actual commercial release for the scrapped 1984 album. Four minutes and six seconds long.
Speaker 1:As I look at the record itself, I need to tell you this it is pristine. This is a beautiful record. It is just so clean. It's never seen the light of day other than when it was printed that day and then put into this beautiful sleeve, other than when it was printed that day and then put into this beautiful sleeve and the personnel on this song. Here's the personnel on this song, of course Stevie Nicks, as I mentioned, don Henley's on this, waddy Wachtel's on this, lori Nicks is on this, matt Chamberlain, ben Montench is on it. This is a incredible group of artists and I'm not sure that I've heard this song. So here, on pat's peeps 161, I present to you reconsider me. Warren sivan.
Speaker 3:Warren Sivan, reconsider me, reconsider me. If it's still the past that makes you doubt, darling, that was then and this is now. Reconsider me, reconsider me, and I'll never make you sad again, cause I swear that I've changed since then and I promise that I'll never make you cry. Let's let bygones be forgotten. Reconsider me, reconsider me, reconsider me, reconsider me. You can go and be what you want to be. It'll be alright if we disagree. I'm the one who cares and I hope you'll see that.
Speaker 1:I'm the one who loves you, consider me. I just consider Warren Zavon, the late great Warren Zavon, to be a brilliant artist. And I don't have the license to this music. I'm not trying to make money off it, I'm just educating, critiquing about the music. I'm allowed to do that. But I love you know, warren Zavon. He was more than just oh, werewolves of London Rolling the headless.
Speaker 1:Thompson Gunner Loved that song Off Excitable Boy, the title track Excitable Boy, night time In the switchin' yard. That bass, excitable Boy, nighttime in the switchin' yard. Boom that bass, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Nighttime in the switchin' yard. That's a great tune by Warren Zavon, excitable Boy. But you know what is really cool about this 45? Not only is it a great pristine record sleeve and the record itself, the 45, is pristine. But there's a B side, and now I will tell you this. This is one of those cases, for me anyhow, where, because I really liked that song, we consider me, but I would almost say that I don't know if I like the B-side better, but I would say equal in a different way because, reconsider Me, I don't know it's deep, you know it's thoughtful. This other side is more of a rocker, but I love it. It's so good, so let's play it for you. The B-side of the Uncharted song Reconsider Me by Warren Zavon is a song called Factory.
Speaker 3:I dig it, I dig it. We got a kid, that's two. We got another one due. We get by the best we can do. Factory's got a good medical plan. Cousin, I'm a union man. Say yes sir, no sir, yes, sir, no sir, yes, sir, no sir. What oh?
Speaker 1:man, man, oh man. I like this. This is so good. It's inspiring me to go continue to learn how to play my harmonica. I was born in Mechanicsburg.
Speaker 3:My daddy worked for Pontiac till he got hurt. Now he's on disability and I got his old job in the factory. Say yes, sir, no sir, yes, sir, no sir, yes, sir, no sir, work.
Speaker 1:Hey, by the way, I'm also the host of the Pat Walsh Show, as heard at KFBK in Sacramento, locally and everywhere on your free iHeart app, just like the podcast Tomorrow night's show. I'm going to get into KTEL Records, Mood Rings, the radio business and more, so blessed to be doing this.
Speaker 3:I love it.
Speaker 1:I just appreciate you listening and I appreciate you listening to my show. Until then, a shorter version of the peeps today Enjoy. We'll see you tomorrow. Alright, on a Friday Pat's Peeps. This is number 161. We'll see you on the radio.
Speaker 3:On the airwaves, baby. Thank you.
