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Ep. 163 Today's Peep Explores Rainy Day Music and Snowy White, Unearths Underrated B-Sides and the Inside Scoop on These Songs
Picture this: a drizzly afternoon in the foothills of Northern California, the perfect setting for a cozy gathering with your favorite tunes. I'm Pat, your host of Pat's Peeps Podcast, and today, we're diving into the nostalgic world of music that comforts us through life's ups and downs. We start with the soulful blues of Snowy White, a gem I stumbled upon during an unforgettable trip to Italy. We'll also honor the genius of Warren Zevon by shining a spotlight on his overlooked song (B-Side) "Factory"—songs that deserve a listen despite being the "flip-side."
Prepare to be whisked away to the golden age of vinyl records, where the thrill of B-sides like Boston's "Smokin'" awaits. Ever wondered about the magic behind a song that dethroned The Beatles' "Come Together"? It's all about the unexpected hits, and we've got the stories to prove it. Join me as we visit the vibrant jukebox halls of yesteryear, exploring how music weaves into the fabric of our memories and emotions. Grab your harmonica, and let's celebrate the timeless connection between classic rock and the stories we've lived through its soundtrack.
Welcome to the Pats Peeps Podcast. My name is Patrick. I'll be your host. You can call me Pat. Patty, patrick, poriko Brachnak. It's Pat's Peeps 163.
Speaker 1:And today, as I take a look out my studio window into the beautiful foothills of Northern California, my friends, this is a very windy, gray day. I mean, the wind is kicking up. It's a weird day because it's so gray and the wind is just whipping. Like I said, it's just very different and it's starting to rain. Of course we need that very different. And it's starting to rain. Of course we need that, but yeah, very different than yesterday, which was beautiful and sunny, cool. So that's where we are today. Wherever you are, thank you so much for being a part of the Pat's Peeps family. I appreciate you, our ever-growing audience.
Speaker 1:I was mentioning on my radio show last night. I am the host of the Pat Walsh Radio Show, or otherwise known as the Pat Walsh Show on. Not even the Pat Walsh Show on radio, it's just the Pat Walsh Show. Maybe you've heard of it, maybe you haven't, but I'd invite you to take a listen, if you have not. On KFBK in Sacramento, 93.1 FM, 1530 AM, biggest radio station in Sacramento, heritage Radio Station, 50,000 watt flamethrower, but on the show last night and heard everywhere on your free iHeart app and all your streaming platforms, just like the Pat's Peeps. But on last night's show I was mentioning like I don't know what just happened over the last week, but I'm super excited about it because my last couple of posts on social media for my podcasts have like quadrupled comments and likes and things. So I'm not sure, kind of trying to read the room here, but I'll just say this Thank you. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1:You know, on a day like this, I'm just going to do music today, if you don't mind. I got a couple things. I just need to get into some music stuff because it sounds so good in my headphones. Maybe you're listening on headphones, I hope. Maybe you're listening on headphones, I hope you're. Maybe you're listening on headphones right now. Or or if you're listening to pat's peeps 163, that maybe you're listening on a good stereo in your car or at home, maybe by the fire, like I'm doing right now. But I was listening to some music and what a shocker, right, and there's just this really cool sounding artist and I just kind of wanted to share with you. I discovered this, I think, when I was in Italy. On one of the trips to Italy and I came across this artist named Snowy White from the album released. Is this song called how Was it For you check this out? I just want to play a little bit. Artist named Snowy White from the album released. There's a song called how Was it For you Check this out?
Speaker 1:I just want to play a little bit of this for you, so I'm out. It's amazing to me that.
Speaker 2:Blues is better, come on.
Speaker 1:Blues has been around for so long and yet someone always comes along, puts a nice little stamp on it, their own little thing. I love this Snowy White. It's a song called how Was it For you? Wow, it's from the album Released. It's called Released. I really like that, you know.
Speaker 1:Talking about music, the other day I played on one of my podcasts I can't remember which one, it was just a couple of podcasts ago podcast. I can't remember which one, it was just a couple of podcasts ago. I played Warren Zivon in one of my 45s, a song called Reconsider Me which, as I said on that podcast, I didn't remember that song, I didn't know that song. It was never a hit. Apparently, they only wanted to hear a couple of songs by Warren Zivone, which is really a cry and shame, in my estimation, because the man was supremely talented before he passed away. I think. Lung cancer, I think, took his life and I just broke one of my pet peeves. I just broke one of my pet peeves when someone says something like I just said. I said, to quote myself, he was so talented before he passed away. Yeah, your talent wanes once you pass on, you know. Unfortunately, it kind of wanes. Warren Zavon was an extremely talented artist. I'll just put it that way Werewolves of london, all that anyhow.
Speaker 1:So I I played this song which was a b-side of a song called reconsider me. I was talking about how nice the artwork was on the original sleeve, that I have it on the record sleeve, and then I flipped it over now and the song we consider me. It was a very nice song, I liked it, but when I flipped it over I played a song called the factory or factory, and I thought, man, I like this could have been the a side of my opinion. It was good man.
Speaker 2:I was born in 63, got a little job in the factory. I don't know much about Kennedy, I was too busy working in the factory.
Speaker 1:I don't own the rights to these. I just want people to know about them, be aware of the songs Also, draw attention, critique, educate. I got to say all that crap. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:He's got a good medical plan. Cousin, I'm a union man Saying yes sir, no sir, yes sir, no sir, yes, sir, no sir what?
Speaker 1:Pat's Beeps 163. Isn't that awesome. I got to get working on my harmonicas. I'm going to get back to practicing on my harmonicas. I was born in Mechanicsburg.
Speaker 2:My daddy worked for Pontiac till he got hurt. Now he's on disability and I got his old job in the factory. Say yes, sir, no sir, yes, sir, no sir, yes, sir, no sir, work hey.
Speaker 1:All right, that's a song called the Factory by the late, great, brilliant Warren Zavon, at least in my estimation. You know I went through a litany of his songs the other night when we were talking about him so that got me to thinking geez, that's a great B-side and I always had the idea to do a mini-pod about B-sides, you know, but I got to playing the records on my show so I don't know, I still might do that, as if I don't do enough podcasting and radio, but it got me to thinking about B-sides. So I'm going to give you a couple of minutes on my thoughts on these sides. Thank you for putting up with me.
Speaker 1:Back in the early 70s I got a 45 of a very popular song. I don't know where I got it. To my recollection, I didn't buy it. I think someone left it at my house or whatever. Maybe I don't know how, I can't really recall, but I don't think I bought it. It wasn't like I didn't like the song because I did Big hit. I mean, this song was a big hit but I had the 45. Everyone remembers this going way back. It's a classic. At least I hope you remember it, someone remembers it.
Speaker 2:Crocodile.
Speaker 1:Rock right. Elton John From the album Don't Shoot Me, I'm Only the Piano Player Brilliant. So this song got played, like I don't know, every 10 minutes, every 10 minutes, and it's a good tune and worthy of that airtime. Back in the early 70s, when I had the record, I flipped it over. Of course you know there's another song on the other side. Now I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 1:I have not heard this song since oh, I'm guessing don't start without me now. I'm guessing I haven't heard this song since oh heck, I don't know 75, maybe 76? But my recollection I'm going to find out if I'm right or wrong now that I haven't heard it after all these years To my recollection, man, it's windy out there. I hope my electricity stays on. But to my recollection, the song. When I flipped it over, I liked it better than Crocodile Rock. So let's take a listen to it, see if my current self is on the same page as my 16-year-old self. The flip side is a song called Elderberry Wine. Here it is, already, I agree with my 16-year-old self. I like it. I keep all my letters, my bills and demands. I keep too. But I can't help thinking about the times you were a wife of mine. You asked to please me cook black-hot peas me.
Speaker 2:Made elderberry wine. Drunk on the top, feel like I'm on a Barrel of wine. Those were the days we lay in the haze, forget the present times. How can I ever Get it together Without a weapon?
Speaker 1:line To pick the crop and get their heart on a very. You know, I still think this should have been a hit song. I mean that is just a signature. I mean that's a perfect hit song. Come on, I mean I like it better than Crocodile Rock. I just do the bottle went.
Speaker 2:I like it better than Crocodile Rock. I just do.
Speaker 1:I tell you I was critiquing music at the age of 10, even in my own head and other people. I would just tell people you know I would give a whole music critique as a 10-year-old 11. A critique as a 10-year-old 11. So, anyhow, elderberry wine it's good, if not better than, as I remember it, wow, all right, speaking of flip sides here, on Pat's Peeps 163.
Speaker 1:I recall walking through Jim DeNio's Farmer's Market and Auction with my mother on this beautiful sunny morning, 1976. And at that time there was this hit song on the radio. This new band had just come out and you could tell, as they say, taking the world by storm. But you could tell, as they say, taking the world by storm. But you could tell, as soon as they released this song. I mean, you could just tell this was going to be big.
Speaker 1:I don't know what it was about it, but as we were walking through Jim DiNayo's market on that beautiful sunny morning with my mother in 1976, I walked by this record rack and I says oh, mom, can I buy this record 75 cents? Sure, patrick, you can buy the record. I took it home. It had just come out, like I said, debut album from Boston. The song called More Than a Feeling. To this day, I still say this is the album where the only album I'm aware of more than a feeling. To this day, I still say this is the album, the only album I'm aware of, where every single track, every song, got played on the radio AM and FM.
Speaker 2:I woke up this morning and the sun was gone, Turned down some music to start my day and lost myself To let me be the sound. I close my eyes and I slip away.
Speaker 1:It's more than a feeling, thank you. No one sounded like Boston, no one. This was at a time where there were bands coming out that were so new sounding. So I get this home, live in an old grove, going to my bedroom, I'm cranking it up. Then I flip it over. I'm like I wonder what's on the other side. I can't wait. I couldn't wait to hear what was on the other side of these records. I mean, I paid my money for them. What am I going to get on the other side? Please don't be a terrible song like Umbasa the Dragon by the Turtles. Oh God, so bad. So I flip the record over, more than a feeling. And boy, oh boy, as soon as I flipped it over and put that needle down on that turntable, on that vinyl, my mind was blown by the flip side Still, in my opinion, one of the best flip sides, one of the best B-sides of any single that I'm aware of.
Speaker 1:Whoops, that's not a good start. Here we go, there you go, there you go. We're gonna play with the sun. A little bit of rock and roll, yeah.
Speaker 2:We're gonna let the tempo go. The band's gonna take control. Yeah, we're getting down today. Pick you up, we'll take you away. We're get down tonight. Smokin', smokin', cookin' tonight. Just keep on talkin'.
Speaker 1:Smokin', smokin'. I feel alright, but I'm not jokin'. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Song called Smokin' and man. That is certainly representative of this song, because, or it represents the song, it is smokin' man, Come on, I'll get down tonight. Yeah, Come on. That kicks, you know, and I'm not even getting to in this podcast 163, to things like you know, Beatles, Strawberry Fields, and you flip it over and it's Penny Lane, Some of the big, obvious ones like that, Trying to get to some of the more perhaps I guess more maybe of my generation ones that they were personal to me. So smoking certainly was just so good. Uh, here was an. This is a couple of interesting ones to me and this is one that was intended to be.
Speaker 1:Now, this is a different story because this song was intended to be basically a throwaway song. I mean literally, they had to extend it out. They didn't have enough. It was intended to be the B-side and just kind of a throwaway. So the song is from 1969, written and recorded by Paul Laker, Gary DiCarlo and Dale Frazier, and it was attributed to a fictitious band and I'll tell you the name in a moment. It was released under the Mercury subsidiary label Fontana and became a number one pop single on the Billboard Top 100, Hot 100 in 1969. And this song remained on the charts into early 1970. It was supposed to be a throwaway, a nothing song, because they needed a B-side. So Paul, Leaka, Paul and Gary and Dale wrote write this blues shuffle.
Speaker 1:This is in the early 60s. They were members of a doo-wop group called Bridgeport, Bridgeport, Connecticut. All right, excuse me, from Bridgeport Connecticut, but they from Bridgeport, Connecticut. But they were called the Glenwoods. Then they became the Citations, Then the Chateaus. Lekka was a piano player. Then they disbanded.
Speaker 1:Lekka and Frazier decide to go to New York City and write and produce. So in 69, DiCarlo is using his professional name, Garrett Scott. They record four songs at Mercury in New York. Leck has the producer. The singles were impressive. According to the company's execs, they wanted to issue all of these as A-side singles, all these four songs, but they needed a B-side. So you have Lekha and DiCarlo resurrecting this old song that they'd come up with back when they were the Glenwoods.
Speaker 1:So with Frazier, they go on. They record this song in one session. So let's do it. Let's just do it One session Instead of using a full band. Lekka plays keyboards. He had the engineer Warren Dewey splice together. This is like Frankenstein Splice together a drum track from one of DeCarlo's four singles and a conga drum solo by Ange DeGeronimo which was recorded in it doesn't matter in Connecticut, but it was recorded for a completely different session. So they're just throwing stuff together to try to make this B-side because they got nothing. And so they said well, you know, maybe we should put a chorus to it, Maybe we can make it longer. That way, Lick-a-toe says you know, I started writing, I was sitting at the piano, I'm doing this stuff, you know, and just kind of improvising Well, they stitch it together. Well, they stitch it together.
Speaker 1:No one knows what the A side of this record was. That was going to be this big, promising hit. This song, which was a complete discard throwaway. It displaced the Beatles' Come Together as the top hit, Reached number one in the United States for two weeks, December 6th of 69. Yeah, replacing Come Together by the Beatles as the number one song. It was Billboard's final multi-week number one hit of the 1960s. Also peaked at number 20 on the Soul Chart In Canada, went to number six. It succeeded. Now, well, it's almost a 10 million record sold. Now I will play the song for you after the A-side the A-side is this song here? All right, this was supposed to be the hit. It's called it's the magic. It's the magic in your girl.
Speaker 2:Just one look at you, one look at you, one look at you and my temperature rises, and it rises, and then my heart, red in my heart, starts to put love's exercise Up and down, girl, the sun pops in on my darkest days, helping to chase my blues away. It's the magic in you, girl, that makes me feel this way. It's the magic in you, girl, that makes me feel this way, feel this way, feel this way, feel this way. Your love's got me traveling, love's got me traveling On a super new highway. The American Pronunciation Guide Presents ''How to Pronounce Goodbye''. Na na, na, na, na, na, na, na, hey, hey, hey, goodbye, goodbye. He'll never love you the way that I love you, cause if he did, no, no, he wouldn't make it right. He might be truly favorite. But my love, my love, my love, my love. Will you kiss him? Wanna see you kiss him? Wanna see you kiss him. Goodbye now. Na-na-na-na, hey, hey, hey, goodbye. Na-na-na-na, na-na-na-na, hey, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, hey, hey, hey, goodbye, goodbye. He's never near you. No comfort at you. When all those sad tears are falling baby from your eyes, you might be feeling baby, but my love, my love, my love, I'm feeling so kissing. I want to see you kiss him. I want to kiss him. Goodbye, kiss him, goodbye. Na na, na, na na, hey, hey, hey, goodbye. No-transcript. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, we'll be right back. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Thank you.
Speaker 2:Rock'n'roll, rock, rock'n'roll, rock'n'roll, rock, rock'n'roll. Can you still recall in the jukebox hall when the music played Rock and roll? I play same old blues. Let it all hang out. No-transcript.
