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Ep. 174 Today's Peep Navigates the Intersection of Sports and Politics with a Fresh Perspective from the Cartier Family, The NBA's Woke Evolution Translates into Dismal Ratings, And a Radical and Controversial Song for its Time (1971)
Ever found yourself reminiscing about the good ol' days of sports, only to feel lost in today's game? You're not alone. Join me as I take a trip down memory lane, sharing my frustrations with modern NFL uniform changes and the evolving NBA. Remember those legendary Celtics vs. Lakers battles? They don't make them like that anymore. Our discussion gets even more intriguing with insights from the Cartier family, a group of spirited young commentators who offer their fresh perspectives on what's happening on and off the court.
From the court to the political stage, we tackle how athletes' political stances are influencing fan engagement. Is the blending of sports and politics pushing fans away, or is it just part of the modern game? Figures like Jonathan Isaac have sparked heated debates about personal beliefs and professional responsibility. Together, we'll dissect these cultural shifts and their impact on viewership, while pondering if the rise of hockey is signaling a new direction for sports enthusiasts.
But it's not all about sports; we also journey into the world of music with a tribute to the legendary Bob Dylan and his iconic song "George Jackson." Discover the powerful story behind this track and its connection to the Black Panther leader, George Jackson. As we celebrate reaching our 175th episode milestone, I express heartfelt gratitude to you, our listeners, for being part of this journey. Let's mix a bit of nostalgia, passion, and reflection as we embrace the holiday season with an engaging discussion that bridges sports, politics, and music.
welcome back my friends to the past peeps podcast. It is a Tuesday, it's December 17th, 2024. And today, as I take a look out my studio window into the beautiful foothills of Northern California Well, look at that, will you? There's some sunshine out there. I love it, I love it, I love it, as the well-balanced winter seems to just continue on, blessed, with some sunshine today. Wherever you are, wherever you're listening, I hope you're having a wonderful Tuesday and thank you again.
Speaker 1:As now we are at Pats Peeps 174. And I'm now hearing more about my podcast every day, Every single day. Someone is now mentioning that they listen to the podcast, that they're binge listening. I'm actually getting as many comments, I think, on my podcast now, my Pat's Peeps, as I am on my radio show by the way, I always like to mention that that I'm also the host of the Pat Walsh show, as heard nationally, internationally on your free iHeart app, and then locally in Sacramento at KFPK Radio 93.1 FM 1530 AM. I do a three-hour show every night. For those of you who do not know, I say every night, monday through Friday, on one of the biggest heritage stations in the United States of America, and that is KFPK, home of Rush Limbaugh, where he became famous, was at KFPK before he launched his national career. Home of Tom Sullivan's, got a national show and heck, even going back to the Loudmouth Morton Downey Jr Remember they used to call him the Loudmouth from KFPK so it is a heritage station.
Speaker 1:So today, on 174, I have a couple of things I'm going to clear out of my phone here and then a couple of things that seem to tie together just by chance, I mean just randomly. I wasn't really attempting to do that, but it just kind of worked out that way. So, by the way, on my radio show we are doing the year in review, the year that was 2024. We'll continue that. I need to accelerate that process because I'm stuck on February in terms of reviewing this year, and so what? I've got 10 months to go. So it's beginning tonight. I'm going to really pick out the best of the best. I've had some good ones so far, but I'm going to go for the best of the best to finish off the week, because then I have two weeks off for my radio show. Now here's the good news I might have two weeks off my radio show, but I will be doing my Pats Peeps podcast as many days as I possibly can during those two weeks. So I'm very grateful if you listen to either one. But just in case you do listen to my radio show and you're like, ah, it's the best of which I again I always thank you for listening to, we'll be doing daily stuff right here on Pat's Peeps, so please keep that in mind as we celebrate Christmas together.
Speaker 1:And so, speaking of podcasts, yesterday and I'm not going to get into football again, I talked about that yesterday quite a bit the NFL, and far be it for me to say you know, hey, I told you so, but I told you so I got it right. On the Raider Falcons game, everything I said yesterday came to fruition Raiders suck, the Falcons suck. This is kind of in a nutshell, going back to what I was saying yesterday. It's just that the Falcons will suck a little bit less and break a four-game losing streak at the expense of the Raiders in Las Vegas. And I'll tell you why Because of the quarterback. That's what I said yesterday. Because I'm not a fan of Kirk Cousins and I don't even know who's going to be quarterback in the Raiders week to week. But as I mentioned yesterday and again it came true Kirk Cousins wow, look at that, made a great throw. Was it to Drake Lennon for the touchdown? Wow, smooth From there. That was it. From that point on, kirk Cousins was a no-go Terrible. It's only a matter of time that Michael Penix, despite that contract to Cousins, comes in and plays. May not be this year, you never know. They've got, they're still fighting for the division and I don't want to get into all that.
Speaker 1:But I do want to say this what the age with the Vikings uniforms last night, the frosty winter, whatever that is uniforms. I just wish the NFL would stop already with allowing these ridiculous changes to the uniforms all the time. I mean, it didn't even look like the Vikings. I mean I always thought the Vikings had the second best uniform in the NFL. I always thought the Rams had the first best in the NFL. I always thought the Rams had the first best. But even the Rams. I'm a lot.
Speaker 1:Listen, I even complain about the Rams' new look. I still love the Ram more, but get rid of the line, get rid of the faded numbers, the gradient numbers, the plastic. Look on the numbers and the yellow is too bright and yellowish. Go back to an older look where everything the helmet and the uniform matches. People are dying for the retro. Stop ruining uniforms. I mean, the Chargers have done a nice job with theirs, like the Packers the other night. What's up with the white helmets? Are you trying to be the Jets? What was that? You're supposed to have yellow. I'm all about tradition, but I just want to say this before I get off of the NFL thing you know how much of a Ram fan I am. Well, my brother Jim, there's six kids, seven when my stepbrother was with us. Raymond passed on. Rest in peace, raymond. But I'm the oldest, so I've been a Ram fan my whole life, followed by my brother Jim, who's been a Vikings fan his whole life.
Speaker 1:The hard luck Vikings, just like the Bills. I put them in this special category not like the Lions, not like the Browns, not like the Cardinals. These teams, well, the Cardinals actually went to a Super Bowl and it was close with Kurt Warner. But some of these teams that are just perennial losers, you know, with the Vikings they've had good seasons. Look at 98, highest scoring offense. That particular year they missed a field goal Guy had missed it all year. But the Bills losing back-to-back, you know, losing all these Super Bowls. The Vikings losing Super Bowls and haven't been there in a long time either team. So for you, jim, I'm happy for your team doing as well as they are this year. Now I still hope the Rams kick their ass if they play quite frankly and hammer them hard. But I know he's been rooting for a very, very long time.
Speaker 1:One other little random thing I wanted to mention, sort of out of the blue. These are notes. I had my phone that I didn't want to forget. I was watching the games over the weekend or watching television or what have you, and I know you're trying to be cute when people do this, but I don't like it. It's kind of blasphemy in terms of, in my opinion, I don't know in what. First of all, during the football games, there's a gambling I don't know app or what have you place where they want you to gamble. I'm not going to mention the name of it, but one of their little features right now is because they want you to make your picks, your gambling picks. Nothing against gambling, I mean, if you want to gamble, just be responsible, as they say. But I'm just saying when you say Pixmas, now come on, so you eliminate Christ from Christmas to straight-up, go commercial with Pixmas.
Speaker 1:And then there was another one I don't know if it's a movie or what I saw. I can't really remember what it was. I jotted it down though Ghostmas. I don't know if that's a movie that's coming out that's supposedly scary for Christmas. They call it Ghostmas. Now am I being touchy here? Yes, I am.
Speaker 1:I was never a fan of anything like that. I was never even a fan, and my mother really instilled this in me, at least Xmas. Remember when it would be and you still see it, I think Xmas. I can remember one time the Southgate Shopping Center, over in South Sac, florin and Franklin. They had a big marquee out in front and it said something whatever they were doing, santa's coming for Xmas and my mother went off like Xmas, you mean Christmas, right, I won't even go to that event because they called it Xmas, and I agree with her. Why'd you have to abbreviate that? You know most words. You don't abbreviate, but you abbreviate and completely X out Christ in Christmas alright, off my high horse In Christmas, all right, off my high horse. I just briefly wanted to mention this and I felt this for a long time.
Speaker 1:I may not talk too much about the NFL today, but I do want to talk about, on podcast 174, the NBA. Now bear with me, please, just bear with me. If you're not a sports fan, it's okay. I'm not going to dig deep here on who's the best team and any of that. In fact, quite frankly, just the opposite. I'll tell you the truth about this Now.
Speaker 1:I used to be a huge fan of the NBA. Just to give you some background, I used to play basketball. Every day. I boxed and I played basketball when I lived in Chico and I could play, I could hoop with the best of them. I mean, if you were in my league height wise, you know, position wise, things like that was good. I could take people to school and I am bragging about it because I was good I'd play every day at the rock and roll. Church used to be a church, had an outdoor court that was a house and there's always rock coming out of that house, rock and roll. So I'd coming out of that house, rock and roll. So I'd be out there. Shooting hoops Could be 105 degrees. I'm out there shooting hoops even by myself on asphalt. But I loved it when the Celtics and the Lakers would play. On Sunday mornings, the NBA on CBS the Boston Celtics hosting the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 1:Man, that was a time of my life as a basketball fan, but I have lost a lot of my luster for the NBA. I'm still going to go out and shoot a little hoops, try to stay in shape. Very good for you. But a lot of the NBA is worn on me and I do not watch it versus baseball, let's say versus football, even hockey I'm not going to suggest that I watch hockey all the time. I would watch it more often. I just don't have the time to watch all of this stuff. But that's not the case for basketball. I kind of choose not to. Yes, I'm happy about the Celtics winning the title this year. Of course I'm a longstanding Celtic fan. I mean, I hope the Kings do well. I'm a Sacramento guy, but am I in tune?
Speaker 1:I was talking to Lori Saka last night off air. She was filling in for Kitty O'Neal on the afternoon news at KFPK. She was wearing her purple. She said I'm wearing my purple for the Kings. I said oh, good for you. How about them Kings, she said.
Speaker 1:I said, yeah, I'm not really into it that much. What really? Nah, they lost me. The game isn't the same. And they begin to lose me when the game started changing, when you could get away with things that you wouldn't get away with in the past. A lot of changes in the game. Everything's a three-pointer. A three-pointer used to be special. Now everyone there's raining threes all the time. I used to like that really beefy physical low post game. There's just a lot that's changed.
Speaker 1:You know calling fouls on the offensive player when there's a defender covering him and, excuse me, on the defending player, and then the offensive guy jams his shoulder to the defender and they call a foul on the defender and give the offensive guy three points, drive in the lane where they're clearly traveling and they act like it's the greatest shot of all time. Traveling at times doesn't even get called. That could go on and on the point being. And then, on top of everything and this was the worst part for me the oversaturation of the NBA, of young guys coming into the league have proven nothing in the NBA. I mean going clear back to Anthony Hardaway when he first began and I don't mean to pick him out, but there was a lot of people that came in Suddenly. I'd be watching baseball or football. I got to be watching these NBA commercials all the time. I don't need it. It was just an oversaturation. And then the topping on it all the wokeness Listening to people like Warriors coach Steve Kerr spewing woke garbage and hate and ridiculous.
Speaker 1:Listen, I'm going to give you a prime example. Now I'm going to play some of this. I don't know if I'm going to play all of it because it's disgusting. A classy organization that's had classy players over the years and have been very successful in the NBA and have won championships, and a coach that's been with the San Antonio Spurs for a long time, greg Popovich. This is why this is part of the reason I don't watch the NBA any longer, occasionally Now, generally, I would let someone like this talk and I would want it so badly as I do here to want to interrupt him and answer every little thing that he says, but, as he points out clearly in a very racist and sexist fashion, feeding into the wokeness of the media.
Speaker 1:Of course he has to include which, by the way, they're old white guys, which you could never get away with, mr Woke.
Speaker 1:You could never get away with bashing the elderly, being a racist and white guys and being a sexist, calling them guys. So all three right, you got the whole trifecta there. You could never get away with that if you changed it from white to any other color, and you, because you're white, know that Right. So, but instead of me interrupting Greg Popovich as he spews this garbage, this woke trash, I'm gonna let these three young gentlemen because I'm just an old white guy, so what I say wouldn't matter to Popovich or any of these from the wokeness group. Here are three young guys who happen to be black. I love what they do on on online, on on youtube. They're the cartier family. I hope I say their name right, because I mean respect to these three guys, three black gentlemen watching the same video that I want to comment on, but I am, so I'm going to bite my lip and try to refrain from commenting and then I'm just going to let them comment.
Speaker 2:But you wouldn't have them babysit your kids. You wouldn't hire them if you had a small. He's talking about Trump. Listen to this trash. You want that man in your business? There's no way. But were you going to vote for him for president Because he's strong? I mean, kamala Harris whipped his ass in the debate, just obviously, and he's running ever since. He doesn't want any part of her Because, as she said, before.
Speaker 1:Again, the only people commenting here other than Greg Popovich and me right now reacting to him are these three gentlemen, the Cartier family, these three gentlemen, she's eaten many of his type for lunch.
Speaker 2:As an attorney general, as a prosecutor he's. He's a small fry compared to some of the people she's going after and he knows it. So all he can do is cut people down, you know, and do what he does. We've all seen all that kind of stuff, the ones that you can be even more angry about because he's sick. He's a damaged man.
Speaker 2:He grew up the biggest wannabe there ever was in New York. Right, we all know that he wanted to be in the inner circle, but they laughed at him his whole life, just like Obama made fun of him at that dinner and he was about to melt. It angered him so bad, it was scary. But he he was never accepted. He was treated like a fool, like a clown, and now he's able to just give the finger to the world because of his position now, and that's what he's doing he's getting back at everybody. Because he's so small, he's got to go after everybody. Just like we all love the generals and mike pence and all.
Speaker 2:We've all heard that before. But those people around him you know the Grahams, the Cruzes, the Hollies, the Meadows, mccarthy, mcconnell, all those guys, all older white men which so happens to be. They know he's an ass. They've said it. I'm not saying that. I think they think that They've told us that ever since you know 2015-16 election thing, I mean, you know they've called him a xenophobic, a religious bigot, a racist, unfit for office. On and on and on their their words. But they're right there with them, their words. Do they not know that they have children and grandchildren, probably?
Speaker 4:y'all ain't been the same since tony parker and tim duncan. Hi kawhi, pop, pop, pop. They got women, yeah, but uh, but uh pop, pop pop man I mean. My dad used to love you man. He used to say man, the best coach, man. They said that you was the smartest coach of all time. What's with these NBA coaches, Bro? They're out of touch.
Speaker 4:You know what, you know what, you know what it really is. Actually Imagine would you? Could you even imagine an NBA coach getting on there and saying the about Kamala and Trump? No, they'd be fired. They'd be fired. Yes, did you see what they did to Nick Bosa? You can get on in the NBA and in the NFL. You can get on here and say these things about Trump, but if you reverse and do the same thing about not even like defamation or anything, but just to say that Kamala's a clown and all things that we say, you're a racist. Yeah, and people going to like make it like it's a big problem. That clearly shows that's a lot bro.
Speaker 4:It shows that they brainwash people to think like this yeah, people that get money, like Steve Kerr, steph Curry, all the people, y'all can't see through it. They are just out of touch with the public. Well, they just dribble a basketball all day.
Speaker 5:That's why and they're so loud about it, bro.
Speaker 4:I'm telling you, it is the nba, it's the league thing, bro, in the nfl that we're gonna pay the every single, except for my boy, jonathan isaac the homie, every single player takes a knee. And yeah, he tells us, he told us to our face. They had a team meeting because he decided not to take a knee during the national anthem. If you are not woke, that is a problem in these leagues. If you are openly not woke, you don't have to be like an open these leagues. If you are openly not woke, you don't even have to be like an open, like Trump supporter. If you're openly not woke. Wow, speaker. 2. Okay, okay Speaker. 3. They see their countries.
Speaker 4:This is in a threat and we finna be in a y'all not finna be playing basketball. It's not together right.
Speaker 2:Because, how you voted, but I'm going to be real.
Speaker 4:People talking about their ratings have been down 48 since 2012 and it has been uh, and they said the nfl's been going up todd said that yeah, no, that's how you're going down. Yeah, they've both been down because nfl they weren't scoring at all this year, so the ratings were down I heard the nfl have been going up in ratings oh, maybe this season I heard the nfl have been going. We was arguing which one is more woke.
Speaker 4:And I came to the conclusion it's about the same, it's close, but the NBA is more woke. I said the same thing Both of them have Black Lives Matter on both the courts and the field.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but every player in the NFL didn't take a knee.
Speaker 4:A lot of players didn't take a knee. A lot of players didn't take a knee in the NFL In. Nba. Think about every single player besides Jonathan eyes. So you think that is straight. You think that's the reason why the ratings have been down, though, mmm, I think people just don't watch it's because it'll overly tuned. Threes, because I've seen Exactly like eight or nine Positions. Exactly is not hitting a three ball.
Speaker 1:No, that's not. It See nine comments on these guys. Is they're commenting on what we're talking about? Absolutely these guys. These guys are speaking my mind, but I'm just an old white guy, you know, it's it's.
Speaker 4:It's not the game, it it's the. Uh, the player's not playing. Bro, it doesn't matter right now. Players will not play for 25 games in the in the nba. Right'll sit down. Oh, hockey's been booming. That's what they say. It's true, conor McDavid. I remember we was doing the hockey reactions. That's right.
Speaker 4:Conor McDavid is a problem out there, yeah, I mean, hey, do you think it's partly because they went woke? I think that's part of it, but I think the main part of it with the nba is because the player's not playing in the games a lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, somebody said, man, we told y'all to shut the up and dribble, but you refuse to listen to your fans and got bud lighting.
Speaker 4:It's true, oh, that's true, that is part of what happened to bud light of it, but that's not the whole thing. I don't think. I know they didn't go super walk man. Think about lebron when he posted oh the bronze did you see any NBA player say anything positive about Trump? Did any NBA? The biggest NBA supporter of Trump is Stephen a Smith and he not even a Trump supporter we probably could say Jonathan, a little bit Jonathan, we know Jonathan, we know he got scrutiny.
Speaker 4:He got hella snake drug his ass through the mud for that. Yeah guys, that's what. I ain't a lot, that's a real bro. I didn't mean to call you that but jonathan bro. That's bold bro, when everybody, every single person next to you he said that word right there, and then he.
Speaker 1:And then he caught himself, because they usually don't say that he caught himself, and you could see on his face that he he shouldn't have said that and he immediately apologized.
Speaker 4:And you don't hear that usually, but he did hey, say me he stood up like knowing what I know now, being this age, I think that I would do that if I was in situation today, but back then I didn't have that. I took me too.
Speaker 3:Let's, let's hear I'll tell you I feel bad every day when I think about it.
Speaker 4:bro, let Me too, let's hear from an ESPN host.
Speaker 1:Oh, what a nice thing to say. He feels bad every day when he thinks about it. Man see, again, I like these guys. I like what they stand for. Now, to play off what they're saying, the NBA ratings are tanking and the reason is, according to some people, because they're making the same mistakes that Democrats did.
Speaker 1:You know Colin Cowherd, who I used to respect his political or, excuse me, his sports knowledge. He's a sports analyst college. He's a sports analyst. Um, he went off on anyone who votes for trump and trump and all this crap, and they're either, and I don't want to really get too much into that. He shared that, uh. Then he also said something about uh, just the fact that, despite signing an 11-year $76 billion TV deal with Disney, nbc and Amazon this summer, that the NBA's ratings Well, he didn't say this, this is just a fact. The fact is, this is not Colin Coward necessarily. He just discussed it, like I am, but the NBA's ratings have taken a severe hit over the past decade, with figures plummeting even further this season.
Speaker 1:Now, again, I don't know what it is. I guess it's everything I've said. Maybe there's something else, I don't know, maybe I'm not putting my finger exactly on it, but that's about the same time. I stopped watching About 11 years ago, I'd say. When I was talking to Lori Saka last night I was trying to tell her how long it had been. I said I can't think of how many years since I've really sat and watched a lot of NBA. It's been about that long. The league's ratings I'm not the only one have taken a 48% drop over the last 12 years. This year alone they're down 28% on ESPN. This is according to Front Office Sports, many fans, many analysts saying that this could be load management. Coward bringing back Colin Coward's name. He agreed in part, suggesting there was an added factor behind the reasoning and it's to do with the American people saying the NBA ratings are down 48% in the last 12 years and they've fallen off a cliff this year.
Speaker 1:And Adam Silver's solution is to make the courts brighter, says I like the NBA, but I think the All-Star game is embarrassing. I do too. I think it really is, and I think they've ruined most of the all-star games. I used to love the major league baseball all-star game because it's about pride of the National League against the American League and who had the best players and their strategy. But they've ruined all of that load management, talking about the fact that it's a shame, bad look for the league when the stars don't play. They're resting the stars for this or that. You know what? People are paying their good money to watch that lousy product, greg Popovich. Going back to what he was saying, and now I'll comment that guy ought to be ashamed of himself. Man, I used to respect that guy. Shuddy, no one wants to hear your trash, so you had don't have to tell you.
Speaker 1:Vp Kamala Harris landslide defeat against Trump. She branded herself as a quote forward-thinking leadership, someone who was a forward-thinking leadership, who would work across the aisle to address the American people's concerns Right. She underperformed in some key demos. They love to break it down. Black and Latinos, how about just Americans?
Speaker 1:Meanwhile, in the NBA, quote load management, a trend which was popularized by Greg Popovich about 10 years or so ago, sees the team rest their stars during the regular season to keep them fresh for the playoffs. Can you imagine? So there's a lot. They can put all the blame on themselves. The league tried to combat this by they added some games played. You know, if you played so many games, you get some incentives that way in your contract. Are you kidding me? You have to have incentives in your contract to play your freaking game that you're overpaid for in the first place, barring players who haven't played enough games from being eligible for major awards to try to send a message to the fans of the league. Uh, you know that the NBA and its players, they don't care about the regular season. Then I mean, you're paying what I don't know how much a ticket is. It's got to be over $100, for sure. Many places maybe $150. I don't know Again, I haven't been there in a while and listen, make no mistake about it. By the way, the NFL, which has always got great ratings for those of you who want to navigate that argument or that debate, I get it and they've softened things in the NFL as well. It's not the same game. According to Nielsen, both college basketball and football have seen drops in comparison to 12 years ago 38 and 72% decreases respectively, college basketball and football. But if you look across the board, some would say the NHL is down by 19% and Major League Baseball by 21%. So college basketball and football really have hit the skids, but basketball has hit this just. You know, as they say, you made your bed. Now you got to sleep in it and they've certainly done that. You know, as they say, you made your bed now. You got to sleep in it and they've certainly done that.
Speaker 1:Here on Patch Peeps 174, going to finish it with some music. I pulled this out of my record collection today. I actually pulled two out. Now I'm going to be honest with you about something. I've never divulged this before. There are some times I'll pull a record out of my collection and I look at it and I go really Do I want to do that one? I got one of those today and I don't even know the band. But I'll tell you what. I'll do it in the next couple of days. I'm going to tell you what it is and then when I play it, when I feature it, I'll tell you.
Speaker 1:It was the one I went eh all right, because I don't know anything about their music. Now I'm not sure if I know this song that I'm going to play for you, but I certainly know the artist. I've seen the artist live and talk about an eclectic concert 1992, laguna, seca Raceway with my brother, steve. This artist played with George Clinton and the P-Funk All-Stars opened, followed by the Black Crows. That was the show where, when the Black Crow was finished man, they were rocking. The lady got up on the stage and said wow, weren't they fantastic. Let's hear it again for the Counting Crows. And Chris Robinson, the singer of the Black Crows and boy he could be angry came out and said that's the motherfucking Black Crows. He took the mic and slammed it on the stage and the mic's just going. And Black Drowzee took the mic and slammed it on the stage and the mic's just going, oh God. And then, to finish off the show, this artist came out and played Way different. Talk about an eclectic show. This is a song written by this very famous artist, written in 1971. This is a tribute to the Black Panther leader, george Jackson. Excuse me, before George Floyd, george Jackson.
Speaker 1:George Jackson had been shot and killed by guards at San Quentin Prison during an attempted escape in August of 71, august 21st, the event indirectly provoked the Attica prison riot. The Chicago-born prisoner was convicted. This individual, convicted of armed robbery in 1961, punished with an intermittent sentence excuse me, an indeterminate sentence, pardon me in the San Quentin State Prison. It was in San Quentin that this person found radical politics. In San Quentin that this person found radical politics, began his journey as a black activist and, along with other politicized black inmates, began the Black Guerrilla Family. He became involved with the Black Panthers after being transferred to Soledad in 69. Soledad's existing racial tension, along with this person's increased criticism of the US prison system, caused problems for this individual with the white inmates and with the guards overall. In 1970, he was charged, along with a couple of other Soledad brothers, with the murder of prison guard John Vincent Mills. This was in the aftermath of a prison fight. He had numerous parole hearings. They denied appeals Culminates in an attempted prison escape when this individual was killed in the prison yard by a guard from a watchtower and this prisoner, along with other prisoners, took hostages during their attempt. Five hostages were found dead in this particular prisoner's cell.
Speaker 1:After the incident the song was recorded at Columbia Studio B November 4th of 71, quickly released as a 45 RPM single. Which is what I hold in my hands right now. It's a blue Columbia record, yellow writing. It has a stamp on it from the radio station. It says November 18th of 71. And it this one does not. Oh yeah, it says radio station copy on both sides yeah, radio. Oh there, it is not for sale. Radio station copy. It's in yellow on this light blue, so it's kind of hard to read. One other thing the song was a top 40 hit in the Netherlands and on the US Billboard charts. Debuted on the Billboard Hot 100 at 93 in December of 71. So right after this came out, the one I'm holding in my hands peaked at 33, remained on the charts for seven weeks. There's an acoustic version on one side and a big band version on the other. The big band version they called it. So there's a song called George Jackson. It's by an artist named Bob dylan.
Speaker 5:here's the acoustic version I woke up this morning there were tears in my bed. I killed a man I really loved. I shot him through the head, lord Lord, they cut George Jackson down, lord Lord, they laid him in the ground. They sent him off to prison for a $70 rivalry. They closed the door behind him and they threw away the key. Lord Lord, they cut George Jackson down. Lord Lord, they laid him in the ground. He wouldn't take shit from no one, he wouldn't bow down or kneel Authorities. They hated him Because he was just unreal. Lord Lord, they cut George Jackson down, lord Lord, they cursed him as they watched him from above. But they were frightened of his power. They were scared of his love, lord Lord. So they cut George Jackson down, lord Lord, they laid him in the ground.
Speaker 1:You're listening to the acoustic version of Bob Dylan's George Jackson here on Pat's Peeps 174. Thank you, by the way. I appreciate that. Merry Christmas time to you. Of course I do not have the rights, the licensing to the music.
Speaker 5:I'm not trying to make money, I'm just trying to educate critique. Sometimes I think this whole world is one big prison yard. Some of us are prisoners, the rest of us are guards. Lord, lord, they cut George Jackson down.
Speaker 1:Lord, lord, they laid him in the ground. So that is the acoustic version from Bob Dylan there of George Jackson. Let's flip it over and see how different the other side here is. This is the big band version. Alright, big band version of the very same song Acoustic and big band. That's interesting. Alright, let's put it on Big band. The very same song, acoustic and big band. That's interesting.
Speaker 5:All right, let's put it on big band I woke up this morning there were tears in my bed. They killed a man I really loved, shot him through the head.
Speaker 1:Lord, lord, they cut your tracks down, lord. Lord, they laid him in the ground, wow.
Speaker 5:Okay, this is great guitar solo. They sent him off to prison For a $70 robbery. They closed the door behind him. They sent him off to prison for a $70 robbery. They closed the door behind him and they threw away the key. Lord Lord, they cut George Jackson down. Lord Lord, they laid him in the ground.
Speaker 1:The big band version of George Jackson by Bob Dylan. Thank you so much. I sure do appreciate you. It's Pat, speaks 174. Merry Christmas time to you. Hey, we'll see you on the radio. I can't believe it. Tomorrow will be 175 podcasts.
Speaker 5:All right, see you then he wouldn't take shit from no one, he wouldn't bow down on me Thoughties. They hated him Because he was just too real. Lord Lord, they cut your Jackson down, lord Lord they lay him in the ground.
