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Ep. 214 The Truth About Joy Reid's Departure, Racism, and Hypocrisy, Killin' em with Kindness at an Anti-Trump "Protest" and a Huge Hit from 1982 on Today's Rare Record Spin
Step into a thought-provoking episode that dissects the recent dismissal of Joy Reid from her role at MSNBC. This episode navigates complex conversations surrounding media ethics, racial discourse, and the challenging role of public figures in today's climate. We dive into Reid's controversial statements, highlighting the tension between free speech and accountability. As audiences crave more from media narratives, the importance of responsible storytelling takes center stage.
In a landscape bursting with diverse perspectives, our discussions unveil how Reid's sudden exit resonates with broader issues of racism and moral responsibilities within media. Listeners will gain a deeper understanding of the impact narratives can have and the urgency for accountability in today's media climate. We invite you to engage with these pressing topics and reflect on the challenges we face in navigating an increasingly divided discourse.
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Speaker 1:Anyhow, I jumped way ahead right there. I haven't even told you that as I look out my beautiful the studio windows into the beautiful foothills of Northern California, it is a nice day. It's weird. It's because it's like the sun wants to kind of come through. But the last couple days it's been cloudy but sunny and not too cold, which has been nice, and now it seems like we're going to get some sunshine in the next few days and then perhaps some rain by next weekend. So that's where we are. I hope you're doing well.
Speaker 1:You know, on the 213th Pat's Peep, I said it was updated because someone thank you to listener Eileen, who let me know that apparently what was listed as 213 was actually somehow uh, I don't know, it turned out to be like our valentine's day pat's peep. So we updated. That is all. I meant that we got the right one up there. We had some kind of a, an error or whatever, but hopefully everything is straightened up. You know, uh, I have to.
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Speaker 1:A lot, lot of people are telling me they're calling my radio show. By the way, I'm Pat Walsh, host of the Pat Walsh Show on KFBK Radio in Sacramento, 93.1 FM, 1530 AM. We stream live everywhere on your free iHeart app, just like my podcast does. A lot of people calling my show and saying hey, pat, I've been listening to your podcast or catching up on your podcast. So thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 1:You know, one of the things I want to mention this morning is and I would not normally maybe do this Normally, I would not delight in someone losing their gig. I mean, I'm going to be honest with you, I would not delight in that at all. But you know, when you are what I would consider to be, and I don't want to get too, too heavy, but when I consider you to be an outright liar and a racist and a race baiter and all that, and you lose your position, which I'm completely mystified to begin with that you have that position. It's truly remarkable that people who can speak like this have a show to and they have a platform to give us these racist, racist thoughts, and Joy Reid's one of them. Unbelievable, I mean. Rarely have I seen anyone who is truly this racist with a show, with a show and again the idea that she could have a platform to race bait.
Speaker 1:It's not unusual because we see it all the time, but MSNBC is one of the in my opinion, one of the biggest at doing this, one of the most well-known. So guess what happens when, apparently not always, there's still a few shows on that I could name. But when you are this racist, I mean even the racist MSNBC, ridiculous network of MSNBC said you know what you got to go, you know, if you believe that Joy Reid axed them, why her show was being axed, I would comment that there's a lot of reasons, quite frankly Again, one being that it's all racist, bigoted lies. That's why. So, yeah, so, msnbc cancels. Joy reeds evening show, held a tense meeting with her staff after the news was leaked, whatever doggone it I forgot to. You know I had. I was going to edit some of this stuff up for you just to give you some examples of her rhetoric.
Speaker 2:To be a black person in you know 2024 in America is to be in a state of complete perplexed confusion about. You're kidding me. What is wrong with a country that hates your history Really?
Speaker 1:Really she says in Black History Month, someone who I don't know has her own show despite her racist thoughts, but she's oppressed and confused in 2024.
Speaker 2:Wow, To this day can't admit even the basics of what was done to your ancestors.
Speaker 1:Are you out of your mind? How long? Listen, let me me ask you a question, not to be insensitive to anyone or anything. How, how many decades do we have to admit that, that that happened for a while, for years, for too long, and you have the gall to sit there. Well, you can't even admit, not even the basic facts. I'm sure it's been admitted time and time and time again. So this is again spewing racist, race-baiting manure.
Speaker 2:Can't accept any responsibility for the lack that has carried through the entirety of the existence of you in this country.
Speaker 1:Through the existence of you in this country. Yeah, you really are oppressed. Again, you have your own television show and you get to spew this trash.
Speaker 2:But yeah, you, you, poor thing gosh, I think 60 years of relative freedom is enough. And to find out that literally barack obama's two terms in as president are your reparations, and Juneteenth, which you already celebrated anyway.
Speaker 1:I didn't. I honestly didn't. I mean I don't. I've never sent out a card for Juneteenth, whatever. To each their own, but you're talking about like I've celebrated. That's a tradition in the Walsh household, Juneteenth. No, you don't know people you're speaking. You're just making generalities about people.
Speaker 2:Reparations, and yet you built this country.
Speaker 1:Right, okay. So what are you saying? You want reparations. So I guess she wants reparations. Okay, let's listen.
Speaker 2:You literally physically built this country Really, and yet the attitude toward you from a lot of your peers and your fellow citizens is just shut up.
Speaker 1:Really To you. It's just shut up. Most of my black friends, which I have, have a lot wish you would shut up and, by the way, none of them are asking for reparations. Be grateful, be grateful and it's.
Speaker 2:It's infuriating to be a black yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So let's just take off what she said. Let's just take, because she said that's such a fact, right, that built on the backs of blacks. Okay, no one could admit that. Okay, well, first of all, let's go down the list, shall we? Let's think about, I don't know, maybe Italians. Let's start with Italians. I'm going to Italy soon.
Speaker 1:You know, many Italian immigrants arrived in this country in the late 19th and 20th centuries. Many Italians you want to talk about a labor force worked primarily in things like construction, mining, manufacturing. Italians, joy, just like blacks who came to this country, were instrumental in building infrastructure like railroads and bridges and buildings. They had a cultural influence on the country. Of course, if you think about it, italians brought rich cultural traditions to America food, music, festivals. These have become an integral part into our society, american culture, the celebration of Italian heritage. It can be seen in all kinds of events. Joy, just look around you. I know you don't want to do your homework, columbus Day, various local festivals but you didn't like Columbus Day because somehow that's racist, right, it's a way to get rid of that because of your beliefs. Let's talk about my own heritage.
Speaker 1:What about the Irish immigrants? First of all, during the work crisis during the great famine in the mid-19th century. This led to a significant wave of Irish immigration and many of the Irish worked as laborers. They worked in harsh conditions Joy, you should look this up particularly on railroads. They worked in canals. They worked in factories. They were very involved in political participation. The Irish, the Irish immigrants, formed strong communities. They became involved in helping to shape urban policies. Through their politics helped play key roles in the labor movement in the United States. You can find this out by just doing a little research. Open up your encyclopedia Britannica, joy, instead of being a racist, this is why you were fired.
Speaker 1:How about the Chinese? We could go down all of these groups of people. You know Chinese. You think anyone worked harder in the railroad construction in this country than the Chinese? Chinese laborers were crucial during the construction of the transcontinental railroad in the late 19th century.
Speaker 1:Do you think Joy would mention that? No, she's not going to mention that. You know the Chinese face dangerous working conditions, incredibly dangerous conditions and, joy, believe it or not discrimination on many levels. Also, if you look at the cultural contributions of the Chinese, they brought unique cultural elements to America as well Cuisine festivals, like I mentioned, the Lunar, new Year, the establishment of Chinatowns. They've enriched American culture. You have other immigrant groups that are very diverse to America, joy. Immigrants from Europe, latin America don't forget about them, I know it's all about you, joy. The Middle East, africa, contributing to agriculture, to technology, various industries, ensuring that the US economy continues to grow.
Speaker 1:Do you think she'd give you one single example of anything that any white person or immigrant that is non-black did in this country? That was great Penicillin. There's a whole litany of things. You could go right down the line, right Right, you talk about cultural enrichment. Each immigrant group has contributed its own cultural heritage, has influenced American music, art, fashion, culinary practices. So when you want to tell us that it was literally built on the backs of those people who you want to say it was built on which, in part, it was just like everyone else I mentioned here, immigrants have not only helped build the physical infrastructure of the United States. They've enriched the nation's cultural fabric, stories of resilience and integration into society. There is a much broader narrative of America as a melting pot, but joy is not going to deal in those kind of truths.
Speaker 2:We've had. That is dispositive of what things could be like now. The midterms in 2022 are much more to me. Dispositive of what? Because women are not less mad now. They're more mad because more women have died. There have been 62,000 babies born of rape that we know of.
Speaker 1:How many were murdered, or some people would say, through abortion. Again, you can't mention those kind of facts. Anyone who is raped, you have to have sympathy, no matter what, for their situation.
Speaker 2:So if you actually are saying that, oh and it's, you're a fascist I mean, in the end, you know, if they didn't make their numbers and essentially exceed the numbers that joe biden had in the suburbs, and I think we have to be blunt about why. Um, black voters came through for kamala harris. White women voters did not. Oh, darn white women. Um, that is what it appears happened in that state.
Speaker 2:Um is that if you can't flip enough white women and we've talked about this on this set numerous times- yeah, we know you have, but it's a state why you'll part of the part of the reason you lost the election where women lost their reproductive rights, where there was a very heavy push to get women to focus on not putting in place, you know, reelecting, putting back into the White House the person who was responsible for taking those rights away and restoring them. But that message obviously was not enough to get.
Speaker 1:This just goes on. And on Some of the most disgusting things I've ever heard anyone say, let me see, and I can only take so much of this. Believe me, I understand you too.
Speaker 2:David, I have some stats.
Speaker 1:No, let's do this, let's do this one, and then I'm going to get off of this. I want to really demonstrate why. Another reason why I find that I'm not sad that that this woman, joy reed, is off the air.
Speaker 2:We begin our final right here, here you go and we begin our final sprint, having arrived at that point in the election season where, basically, we on this side of the tv screen have said all we can no, you've laid out the stakes in this crucial election, where one side stands for freedom while the other meets the textbook definition of fascism.
Speaker 1:So you, if you did not vote for Kamala Harris in this past election, meet the textbook definition of fascism.
Speaker 1:Namely a far-right dictatorial regime like right okay hitler's germany or franco's spain or mussolini's italy, but this is a person who just simply doesn't know history. When you talk about these people she's mentioning right now and then put them in the context with what's happening in america right now, you're so completely lost and out of touch that it's it's truly absurd, it's beyond absurd. Visit some of these countries, go, go, go see, see reality, learn, because you're just saying things to sensationalizing and get me, the people like me, to react, oh, and to lose your job white ruled south africa before mandela and the black majority took control, or vladimir putin's russia, victor orban's hungary, or nicolas maruro in venezuela today how long do you think it took her to google all those names?
Speaker 1:it?
Speaker 2:suppresses the rights of women and minorities.
Speaker 1:Right, yes, you poor, suppressed your rights and minorities. Yeah, you have a. Let's see a black woman running for president, who you claim barely lost for weren't a bunch of racist and bigoted whiteys. And you're a white, a black woman who was on TV telling us how oppressed you are.
Speaker 2:This is the military to execute the whims of a strongman dictator strongman dictator.
Speaker 1:Okay, oh, okay, controls and suppresses the press. You know what a strongman dictator is controls and suppresses the press, education, the arts oh my god, really tell me what donald is. So you have people throwing statues because they feel like it's, because they're woke into the bay. Tearing down statues, cancel culture and then you're going to spew this Rewrites history to suit a favored and dominant racial class. That's what we're doing.
Speaker 2:And foments extravagant corruption in order to enrich the dictator and his friends.
Speaker 1:What? And you wonder why she was fired.
Speaker 2:We've warned you about Donald Trump's profound unfitness for office from his theft of classified documents.
Speaker 1:Shut up. I can't take it anymore. Honestly sorry, I just can't take it. Any answer, she's gone. Final episode is going to air this week, or maybe it was last week, I don't know. Don't keep track too much, I don't watch this. Replaced by a show led by a trio of hosts Democratic strategist Simone Sanders, townsend blah blah blah. Former Republican National Committee chair Michael Steele. Journalist Alicia Menendez, currently hosting the Weeknd. Don't care, she's hosted this trashy show since 2020. She's been with the company since 2014. They've also removed Alex Wagner whoever that is from her weekday evening spot. I don't know who that is.
Speaker 1:Anyhow, speaking of that kind of stuff, I couldn't believe the. I got an incredible response from a video I reposted this. I'd actually done this on April 3rd I think it was several years ago, 2019, I believe. I reposted this because I didn't think a lot of people had seen it, and when I reposted this on Facebook, I tell you I got more feedback than anything I've ever posted on Facebook or on social media media for that matter. And this was.
Speaker 1:I was at Highway 49 at Bell Road up there in Auburn one day and I saw a protest going on and I thought you know, I'm going to go out there and I'm just going to, as they say, kill them with kindness. And all of their signs were anti-Trump and F-Trump and dump Trump, and all of this, whatever they said. And I thought, heck, yeah, they're out there. You know, their first amendment rights, freedom of speech, freedom of expression. With their signs. And I thought, hey, I'd go mix it up with them and say hi in a very kind and gentle way, but it really, in my opinion of many others, apparently, uh, exposed a bit of hypocrisy here.
Speaker 1:Let's go, let's try this, let's see. There we are, there we go. Freedom of expression huh, here we go. What's of expression? Huh, here we go. What's your sign say? What's it say? It says Dump Trump, dump Trump, freedom of expression, baby, right, right, that's right, right Right, dump Trump. God bless our President, donald Trump. God bless President Trump. God bless President Trump everybody. God bless our president and America. She literally said no.
Speaker 2:What am I?
Speaker 1:doing. God bless the president.
Speaker 2:John, if you're a blessing, you got to bless Putin too because they're together.
Speaker 1:God bless, god bless the president and Putin. So if I'm a heckler, then if I say God bless the president, it just sounds aggressive. I said God bless the president.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it sounds like you're trying to start a fight with Putin. Oh, god bless our president, have a great day. It sounds aggressive, I'm a heckler. Great day, it sounds aggressive, I'm a heckler. It sounds like you're starting, you're trying to start a fight by literally smiling and saying God bless the president, have a great day. God bless the president, I was a heck. Their signs were okay right At the beginning. Freedom of expression, right, yes, yeah, dump trump, dump trump. But as soon as it turned into god bless trump, no, you're starting, you're trying to start a fight.
Speaker 1:I mean, you know, I talk about exposing hypocrisy. Wow, that was pretty uh, but. But thank you for all of the uh, I guess attention or feedback. I got him on that video for an oldie but goodie. I don't know, I might see, I might go out to. You know, listen, I'm not trying to go out there and be a jerk or nothing. I'm just I'm trying to be nice. My thing is to get him with kindness. You know, exposing the hypocrisy in a nice way, nicely exposing hypocrisy.
Speaker 1:Hey, I pulled this record off my record shelves today Very popular. This is the first time that I questioned myself like, did I already do this one? But I don't think I did, to be honest, because it has a B side and I don I don't recall hearing the B-side. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know, or what it could have been was. I have another copy of this and that might be possible, like in a picture sleeve or something, and then I just found another copy of it. So either way, it's a good tune, why not? So this song always reminds me of the 1980s New Wave Band recorded in 1982. It was their third single and it was their second single from their self-titled debut album, and this one topped the chart in Australia. It reached number seven in New Zealand, went to number nine here in the United States and was not as successful in Europe, only reached number 31 in Germany, which kind of surprises me. Actually, in the band's home country, or in the United Kingdom, it reached number 43. However, the song was certified silver In an article for that rag Rolling Stones that I used to respect and no longer do, as I always say titled Aglomania, the second British invasion Park, pewterberg Pewterba wrote of the impact of the song's music video on its US chart success. Fronted by a singer, synth player. With that, this will give it away, probably With a haircut stranger than anything you'd likely to encounter in a month of poodle shows. This band struck gold on their first try.
Speaker 1:The lead vocalist, mike Skor, says that there were two main sources of inspiration for this song. I swear I did. I mean, either I'm having a deja vu or I did this one before. I don't know I might be having a deja vu. Anyone ever get a deja vu. We should talk about that on my show tonight. I'm going to write that down. Deja vu Is that real? It does happen, right. Anyhow, I think I might be having one right here on my podcast. I think that was in my deja vu, that I just said that. Anyhow, let's see. So this song.
Speaker 1:A member of the group would regularly visit this Eric's Club in Liverpool, where one of the bands had a song with this title, and he noted that because of this band, they'd rehearse right after returning from Eric's. Then the song title and the chorus may have got stuck in his head. Then there was another idea from a poster at Zoo Records at their office. The band had gone there with the intent of securing a record contract. They wanted to use this poster which featured a man and a woman running away from a flying saucer as a cover for their first record, and the depiction also helped spark the song's unusual they say, space-like lyrics, recorded at Battery Studios in London, producer Mike Howlett. New wave synth pop song and very memorable though I believe I mean you go back to 1982, who hadn't heard of the flock of seagulls? Iran, pat's Peeps 214. It's on Arista Records blue. It is in mint condition and it does have a B-side. By the way, no radio stickers on it of any kind. Unauthor Records, which is a part of Arista. Thank you, guitar solo.
Speaker 1:I walk along the avenue. I never thought I'd meet a girl like you, meet a girl like you With open hair and tawny eyes, the kind of eyes that hypnotize me through, hypnotize me through. And I ran. I ran so far away, I just ran. I ran all I ever need. I couldn't get away. I still like this one. It still sounds pretty good after all these years, and I wasn't a big 80s guy. Still sounds pretty good, though. And I ran, I ran so far away, I just ran. I ran all night and day. I couldn't get away. So so there's a flock of seagulls. I ran. But again, there's a song, there's a B-side to this. So again it's on Jive Records a subsidiary of Arista. So the other side is called, let's see here, pick Me Up, pick Me Up. You can impress your friends some with the flip side of Iran by a flock of seagulls. Here it is Pick Me Up, flock of Seagulls, we'll be right back.
Speaker 2:You make me stop with every word you say why don't you go away? I never thought that you would understand. Or did you have a plan? I saw you on the street the other day, but you just turned away.
Speaker 1:You leave me lonely, sad, depressed and blue Can't take my mind off you. I need a pick-me-up, pick-me-up. I need a pick-me-up. Pick-me-up. I need a pick-me-up. Pick me up, pick me up. I need a pick me up, pick me up. I need a pick me up, pick me up. I saw a friend of yours the other day but she just turned away. I never thought that she could understand. It, just got out of hand. You know I've never heard this song, but if you were to ask me to guess who it was upon first listening, you know who I would guess. This is Flock of Seagulls. You know I did like the other song by them, space Age Love song, right by Flock of Seagulls. One of my favorite songs by them is that one they released in the later 80s. Goodbye.
Speaker 2:Joy Reid yeah.
Speaker 1:Pats peeps 114. Happy Monday. See you for 2.15 manana. See you on the radio.
