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Ep. 227 Today's Peep Friday Snow, De Niro, Politics, and the Line Between Art & Ideology, the Weird and Wonderful World of Dr. Demento, and "Ain't Nothing Like the Real Thing"
welcome to the pats peeps podcast. Happy friday to you. My name is pat walsh. I'll be your host. Thank you so much. By the way, I'm also the host of the pat walsh radio show, heard kpk news radio in sacramento, 93.1 fm, 15 30 am, and live on your free iheart app. And of course, you can hear this podcast, the pat's Peeps podcast, pat's Peeps on all your streaming platforms. There we go. It's Friday.
Speaker 1:I woke up. I woke up this morning. I looked out my window. It was snowing. I couldn't believe it. There was snow on the ground.
Speaker 1:Ladies and gentlemen, I'm right at the as I look out my studio window into the beautiful foothills. It's melted though. The snow is melted, but it was there this morning and apparently there is more on the way, more snow to come. It's always kind of a surprise when you wake up and see snow, like I'm right at the snow line, like if, when they say that well, it could snow at lower elevations generally they're kind of talking about where I live. It's an interesting thing where I live Because, again, if it's like six miles above me, they'll have the road closed when it's snowing big time over the pass, but right here maybe not, may not be any snow. Other times you get snow here, but we're like the lowest part of the. You know in terms of elevation, where they're going to get snow, although not every time. Sometimes they get it 9, 10 miles down the road from me, but the fact is it's kind of a pleasant surprise usually most of the time when you get some snow. Other times I've been snowed in for six days at a time and that was just a couple of years ago, so not too bad today today, but again we're expecting more snow tonight.
Speaker 1:You know I was talking to my sister Stephanie. She lives in Clovis. For those of you don't know where Clovis is central, I guess you'd call that central California. Clovis and Fresno are sort of attached right there and my sister Stephanie lives there and she was telling me that they're expecting snow in Clovis and Fresno, which now that I don't think that's happened for years, for a very long time, so that would be rather surprising. She was going to come up and visit this week in light of my son's passing and we were going to have a little family gathering. But of course, with the roads being like this treacherous, I don't know that that's gonna happen. But anyhow we were having this conversation, she said it might snow in Fresno or Clovis, which I thought was pretty remarkable, very unusual.
Speaker 1:Of course we were talking about a variety of things. One of the things I can't believe we're podcast 227. By the way, I will be doing my podcast when we go to Italy, go back to Italy. There may be a day of jet lag. I've never done a real jet lag podcast. Sounds great now, but when you're jet lagging it doesn't sound so great. You just want to sleep. But I will continue as I've done in Ireland and Italy. I'll continue my podcasts while I'm there and we'll be leaving on the 3rd of April, which is my other sister, michelle's birthday there. I've got both of my sister's names into the first part of the podcast here.
Speaker 1:But Stephanie and I were talking about a variety of things and I was telling her you know that there was. I saw this. We're like-minded politically. Without getting too much into the politics, I'll just make this statement that we are very like-minded when it comes to political stuff. And I told her you know it's amazing because I saw this movie trailer, which I'm not even going to play for you. There's a reason why, but I saw this movie trailer and I told her. I said, you know, years ago this has been like I don't know. 20 years ago I would have immediately watched this movie. Immediately. I said, yeah, this is my kind of movie, but now, no, there's not a chance I'm going to watch it. And it's really a shame, because this movie, the reason that I would watch it 20 years ago I'm reaching maybe 15 to 20 years ago the reason I would watch it is not just because sort of what the movie was about mainly, but also mainly that and the fact that this actor I felt was always taking good movies Up until a certain point.
Speaker 1:Then that's where I jumped off board. I was done sort of. I don't know if that makes any sense. Let me explain. Robert De Niro he's got this new movie. In fact, they're looking for extras for this new movie in Jersey God, it's a sucky thing being an extra sometimes If you've ever done that Long days Anyhow, very little pay. But they've got this Netflix upcoming movie, the Whisper man, based on the best-selling book Robert De Niro, michelle Monaghan from White Lotus, adam Scott from Severance Okay, I don't know these people except De Niro, and production, they say, is going to begin in April and it's going to be filmed in June in parts of New Jersey. The only reason I know about it is because I was watching some television and a trailer for this popped up and I thought, well, see, now that's the kind of movie a crime thriller starring De Niro that I would have wanted to watch.
Speaker 1:My favorite movie of all time is Raging Bull with De Niro. I don't think there's a better performance on behalf of an actor in any movie than his performance in Raging Bull. I was a big fan, of course. I just watched the Godfathers talked about that. He was in Godfather II, young Robert De Niro, some of my other favorites, I mean I like movies like Goodfellas and Cape Fear. There was just a lot of movies that I liked De Niro.
Speaker 1:But then he started getting into these other movies, like I don't know things like if you go back to, I think, 2000 or something like that, you know Meet the Parents, all right, whatever, you know things like that. I just I wasn't too interested in meet the Fockers or whatever that was, yeah, just um. And even even though in the midst of that he I think he had some good movies, I can't really recall a lot of the movies. There was little Fockers and I just thought what are you doing? My gosh, you need a paycheck. Was little Fockers, and I just thought what are you doing? My gosh, you need a paycheck, little Fockers, anyhow. So there was these kind of movies, but then what solidified it for me is when he came out at the was it the 2018 Tony Awards? And came out and said F Trump. At the was it the 2018 Tony Awards? And came out and said F Trump.
Speaker 1:It was such a low-life move and it's the reason I don't watch these award shows, the Oscars, any of it. The Grammys, forget it. I'm so sick of the messaging and these, you know using these shows to get their message across. And ever since then, these, you know using these shows to get their message across. And ever since then, you know, and and I don't care if you don't like someone, whether it's a politician, whomever it is, I mean, unless you're talking about a stone cold criminal, someone that committed heinous crimes, I'm talking about, yeah, see, now, if you're listening to me and you hate Trump, you're going to go. Yeah, I did smoke those guys. I'm talking about murderers and I'm talking about dirt bags. Okay, I don't even want to go down that path. I'm just giving you my opinion.
Speaker 1:It was a low-class thing to do and the honest truth, it was political, we, political, we, of course. And just so you know, I would feel the same way if it would have been during the Clinton administration or during the Obama administration or during the Bush administration, and they come out and they say F Obama, you call him a Nazi or whatever he's done, because we've seen all the remarks since then. Any of them, I mean I may or may not have agreed with NAFTA or you know whatever policies by either Clinton or Obama, or what have you bailing out General Motors? I mean this whole litany of things, may or may not have agreed with him, but to call them fascists and to call them Nazis, that's a little much. And you know what? He just keeps pushing it and pushing it, and pushing it and pushing it.
Speaker 1:My sister says there's a show, a Netflix show, which apparently is getting good rave reviews. Of course they are, because we know the media, for the most part, is going to love what De Niro does. And they say it's doing well on Netflix. Okay, all right, fine, I get that not everyone will be affected or care as much about the low-class comments he made, like I do, and some people just go. Yeah, well, I don't let that interfere with what I'm watching and I do get that. I mean the same thing that's happened with me with Roger Waters of Pink Floyd. You know. You go see Waters.
Speaker 1:Roger Waters, I've seen him two or three times. The first time I saw him doing this very anti-American rhetoric and all I mean. It bothered me then and I thought, well, I hope he got that. I figured he got it out of his system, and I think this was back when George Bush was the president. And then I thought, like I say, he got out of his system, so he's going to play again. I got invited to a show at AT&T Park, an otherwise incredible show, but it was just filled with anti-American rhetoric and comparisons to Hitler and we're talking what this might have been. I think this was 2012, so that turned me off and Roger Waters continues to spew his rhetoric. So I don't know it. Just it's my point being that it's too bad.
Speaker 1:I don't get to see this movie. I won't see the movie or the Irishman. I didn't see that because of the same reason. I don't know if anyone else is not watching De Niro movies, or perhaps there's another actor or actress out there. I mean, I probably can think of a few that I will not be watching their stuff anymore. I'm just torn because I always just thought he was a great actor. Then he made some bad choices in my opinion, you know. Another one I liked was Cape Fear with De Niro. That guy was scary. So was Robert Mitchum in the original Cape Fear, by the way. I don't know which one, I was always a Robert Mitchum fan as well.
Speaker 1:Wherever you are, thank you for listening to my podcast today. Thank you for listening. We had 227 podcasts. It's a Friday. You know what I used to like. My sister and I were talking about this. I don't know how this came up. I used to like oh, what was it? Oh God, I made a reference. I can't remember what it was, but it was in regards to this gentleman right here.
Speaker 1:If anyone remembers the Dr Demento show, remember Dr Demento.
Speaker 1:I liked Dr Demento. I was a big fan of Dr. It's the good doctor Barrett, eugene Hanson, dr Demento. You know, I'd like to get him on my podcast. I think I'm going to try to get. I hope he's doing all right.
Speaker 1:He's 83. It's almost his birthday. I would love to get him on this podcast for his birthday. His birthday is the day before I leave for Italy, april 2nd. Of course, long time radio broadcaster, record collector, just like myself, play my records. I have one right here in my hand. I'll play it today.
Speaker 1:But Dr Demento the good doctor, he specialized in novelty songs. If you listen to his show you know what I'm talking about Comedy, strange, unusual recordings dating back to the early days of the phonograph record, and he had it all the way to present day. Man. He turned me on to some weird music, turned a lot of us on to some weird stuff. He created Hanson creates the Demento persona back in 1970.
Speaker 1:He was working in Pasadena at this radio station, kppc-fm. He once played Transfusion by Nervous Norvus on that station. Dj the Obscene Stephen Clean said that Hanson had to be demented to play it In this event that inspired his stage name. His weekly radio show goes into syndication in 1974, and he was syndicated by the Westwood One Radio Network from 1978 to 1992. Broadcast syndicated by the Westwood One Radio Network from 1978 to 1992. Broadcast syndication of the show ended June 6th of 2010, but the show does continue to be produced weekly in an online version. I should try to find that for you. The Nervous Norvus the song that the other DJ said he had to be demented to play. See if I can find that. Here you go. So here's the song he played on the air at the radio station. They said this guy's got to be demented. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3:Tooling down the highway doing 79. I'm a twin pipe popper and I'm feeling fine. Hey man, dig, that, was that a red stop sign? Fusion transfusion? I'm just a solid mess of contusions. Never, never never gonna speed again Slip the blood to me bud. I jump in my rod about a quarter to nine. I gotta make a date with that chick of mine. Oh wow, I've never heard this one, 1956.
Speaker 1:Transfusion Nervous, norvis, I can see where the guy thought he might be Demented the obscene Stephen Clean. Clean, by the way, barrett Eugene Hanson. Dr Demento holds a master's degree in ethnomusicology. He's written a magazine, magazine articles, liner notes and recording artists outside of the novelty genre. He was credited with introducing new generations of listeners to artists of the early middle 20th century whom they may not have otherwise discovered, which is absolutely true.
Speaker 2:Woo, woo, woo, woo Woo. Wind up your radios, dimensions and the bedtides. It's time once again for the Dr Demento Show, coming to you from under the strawberry trees of woo-woo wonderful Westwood. And we're right here with Lucky Lindsey and Crazy Quail and two hours of mad music and crazy comedy, some sounds you never heard before on the radio and, who knows, probably some sounds you'll never hear again. So, without further ado, let's get the party going with a blues.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's right, and you would hear like he's going to play the Blues Brothers Rubber Biscuit. That became a hit song, though this one became a hit song, dan Aykroyd. This was on the radio a lot, though A lot of people remember that one. But here's some other ones that people would remember from dr demento, but these are more common. All right, these are more. This is. These are like the uh, the tame songs from demento, before I get to the really absurd, bizarre, at least in my opinion, the ones that stand out to me. So this one many people have heard it Alan Sherman, hello Mudder, hello Fodder, dr Demento, staple Pats Peeps 227.
Speaker 5:Hello Mudder, hello Fodder, 227, hello mudda, hello fada. Here I am at Camp Granada. Camp is very Entertaining and they say we'll have some fun If it stops raining. I went hiking With Joe Spivey. He developed poison ivy. You remember Leonard Skinner? Leonard Skinner, he got poisoning last night after dinner. All the counselors hate the waiters and the lake has alligators and the head coach wants no sissies, so he reads to us from something called Ulysses Head coach wants no sissies.
Speaker 1:You probably couldn't even say that. Now, dr Demento Show. Here's another common one that you would hear on the Dr Demento Show. Here's another common one that you would hear on the Dr Demento Show. Kind of transcended the good doctor show Got played in various settings. This is Napoleon XIV coming to take me away, ha ha.
Speaker 4:Remember when you ran away and I got on my knees and begged you not to leave because I'd go berserk. Well, you left me anyhow, and then the days got worse and worse. And now you see I've gone completely out of my mind. And they're coming to take me away. Ha-ha, they're coming to take me away, ho-ho, he-he, ha-ha, to the funny farm where life is beautiful all the time. To take me away, ha-ha. They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, he-he, ha-ha, to the funny farm where life is beautiful all the time, and I'll be happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats. And they're coming to take me away, ha-ha. You thought it was a joke and so you laughed. You laughed when I had said that losing you would make me flip my lid, right, you know, you laughed, I heard you laugh, you laughed, you laughed and laughed and then you left.
Speaker 3:But now you know I'm utterly mad.
Speaker 4:And they're coming to take me away. Ha-ha, they're coming to take me away. Ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-ha.
Speaker 1:To the happy home with trees and flowers and chirping birds and basket weavers who sit Napoleon the 14th. That's still pretty funny even after all these years. That was a classic on the good Dr Demento show. Then I, when I really started catching on to it, then I recall him playing some really strange stuff, really weird. Remember that word weird, because that'll become very clear momentarily. First, though, here's one of the ones that really caught me off guard when I first heard it, and I did first hear it on the Dr Demento show, and this song features Billy Mummy, who was I can't remember the character's name, but he was the kid in Will Robinson, right Lost in Space. Danger Will Robinson. Danger Will Robinson, right Lost in Space. Danger Will Robinson, danger Will Robinson. Billy Mummy, who was Barnes, and Barnes, oddly enough, who created this song that is so bizarre, and Dr Demento loved it. It's called Fish Heads. Maybe you've heard this.
Speaker 5:Fish heads, fish heads. Roly poly, fish heads, fish heads, fish heads. Eat them up, yum. Fish heads, fish heads, roly poly, fish heads, fish heads, fish heads eat them up, yum.
Speaker 6:In the morning slapping happy fish heads.
Speaker 5:In the evening floating in the soup. Fish heads, fish heads, roly-poly fish heads, fish heads, fish heads eat them up, yum. Ask a fish head anything you want to. They won't answer, they can't talk.
Speaker 1:Remember, I don't have the rights to this music. I'm exposing and critiquing the music.
Speaker 5:I'm allowed to do that I took a fish head out to see a movie. Didn't have to pay to get him in.
Speaker 1:Fish heads, fish heads, birdie birdie fish, I did find out. They don't wear sweaters and they don't play drums From this song. I never knew that until they can't play baseball.
Speaker 5:They don't wear sweaters, they don't wear sweaters, they're not good dancers.
Speaker 1:They don't play drumsy mummy, it's barnes and barnes from the essential dr demento. Here's why I brought up deniro today with my sister. This is the thing that got me thinking about Dr De Niro. Dr De Niro, dr De Niro, that's kind of worked, actually. Dr Demento De Niro on Demento, or the Demented De Niro, come on, some things are just happy accidents. Pat's Peeps 227. This is what made me think of him, dr De Niro, because I called him a pencil neck. Geek Fred Blassie from the Dr Demento show. Geek Fred Blassie from the Dr Demento show.
Speaker 4:Happy Friday to you. Back when I was a kid, life was going swell till something happened, blew everything to hell. That night my daddy stumbled in all pale and weak, said a woman up the block just gave birth to a geek. Mom said sell it to the circus. What the heck Dad said nope, this one's a pencil neck, and if there's one thing lower than a sideshow freak, it's a gritty, scum-sucking pencil neck geek. You see, if you take a pencil that won't hold lead, looks like a pipe cleaner, add a buggy-whip body with a brain that leaks, you got yourself a grit-eating pencil neck geek. Pencil neck geek. Grit-eating freak, scum-sucking PF with a lousy physique.
Speaker 1:He's a one man no cut, otherwise known as the Chuck Schumer song, but a Pantselneck geek.
Speaker 1:Pantselneck geek. Yeah, that's a classic Fred Blassie Dr Demento favorite. That time I almost called him Robert Demento, which actually fits Robert Demento All right. Then there was this one. Now there's a lot of weird songs. You could probably think of another 20 if you're a Dr Demento fan that are very, very strange. This one is right there at the top of the hill. Now there's others that might be as weird as this, but literally, like I said a couple minutes ago talking about weird, this is from John W Christensen. Beat Brothers presents John W Christensenen. I first heard this in the early 80s on the show and I'm still not. Well, I get weird. I got weird Every time I see you. I got weird.
Speaker 6:Wanna find a place to bite you. I got weird when I found out you don't like me. I got weird Cause you know that you excite me. Alright. Weird, weird, weird In my little room. Weird, weird, weird.
Speaker 1:Wanna find something obscene to do? How bizarre.
Speaker 6:Pull the wings off butterflies, salt some snails and wash them. Bubble, bubble, bubble, bubble, bubble, bubble, boiling bubble. Told ya Weird, weird, weird, weird, weird, weird. I get weird. Every weird, weird, w-w-w-w-weird, w-w-w-w-w-weird, w-w-w-w-w-i got weird. Every time I call you, you know I get weird. Gonna go play with my chainsaw. I got weird, cause you laughed at my wolf whistle. I got weird. Gonna go and get my water pistol Sitting in my little room. Want to find something obscene to do. Pull the wings off butterflies, call some snails and watch them bubble, bubble, bubble, bubble, bubble, bubble, bubble and bubble.
Speaker 1:Oh jeez, I haven't heard that in forever and that is just as weird as it has ever been right there. Wow, wow, anyhow, I need to cleanse the palate from that. So I pulled this record from my rare record collection today, this 45. I'm going to pull it out of the sleeve. This is a really heavy duty kind of 45. See what condition this one's in the label looks like. It's kind of seen a few days. But the record itself, let me see A couple of little tiny flaws on one side. Maybe not bad, it looks very nice. It's on tomla, black and white label.
Speaker 1:Tomla and this is um same song both sides, trademark Trademark of Motown. Two people singing on this. And what's the date? It is 1960. It says 68. I for some reason thought this was 1967. I think the record says 68. Anyhow, it is 68. Okay, I thought it was 67. 68. Released, obviously, 68. Okay, I thought it was 67. 68. Released, obviously on Tomla.
Speaker 1:Motown R&B Soul Duo. The B-side of the single which I don't have because this is the same song both sides, radio DJ copy is Little Old Boy, little Old Girl from the duo's United LP, the first release of the duo's second album, you're All I Need, the song written and produced by the regular collaborators Get a drink of water here, pardon me, collaborators Ashford and Simpson Became a hit within weeks of the release, eventually peaked at number eight on the US Billboard Hot 100, number one on the Hot Soul Singles Chart, the first of the duo's two number one R&B hits. In the UK the song reached number 34. Cashbox calling it a potent ballad, saying the Detroit backing puts a beat into the session praising the splendid vocals, and it is ranked as the 57th biggest US hit from 1968. Went to number nine in Canada as well. So this did very well. It did real well, because Marvin Gaye and Tammy Terrell teamed up and gave us this great tune. Ain't nothing like the real thing. Baby Pats Peeps 227. Happy Friday.
Speaker 5:Ain't nothing like the real thing, baby. Ain't nothing like the real thing, no, no, ain't nothing like the real thing, baby. Ain't nothing like the real thing. No, honey, I've got your picture hanging on the wall but it can't see. Come to me when I call your name, I realize it's just a picture in a frame. I read your letters and you're not near, but they don't move and they don't move. And, like men, I hear your sweet voice whispering In my ear, don't you know? Ain't nothing like the real thing, baby. Ain't nothing like the real thing. I play my game of fantasy. I pretend, but I know in reality. I need the shelter of your arms to comfort me. No other sound is quite the same as your name. No touch can do half as much To make me feel better, so let's stay together.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much for listening to my Pats Peeps number 227. Greatly appreciate you. Sure would appreciate it if you'd give us a chance to go to patspeepscom and support local business and get exclusive offers. I'd be so grateful. All right, have a wonderful weekend. See you tonight on the radio.
Speaker 6:Ain't nothing like the real thing, baby Ain't nothing like the real thing.
Speaker 5:Talk to me Ain't nothing like the real thing. Talk to me, ain't nothing like the real thing, baby.