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Ep. 231 Today's Peep features Musical Moods for a Friday, Little-Known Musical Facts, Longest and Shortest Songs of All-Time, The Police, Prince, Bobby Gentry and More, and a Number 1 Pop Song from 1969
Music has a way of shaping our moods and connecting us across time, especially on days when the weather shifts between rain and sunshine. Today we explore the stories behind some iconic songs and artists that have created the soundtrack to our lives.
• Talk Talk's atmospheric album "Spirit of Eden" as the perfect music for a mixed-weather day
• The story of how New York film crews discovered Talk Talk's "Living in Another World" during Burger King commercial shoots in Northern California
• Sting accidentally sitting on a piano while recording "Roxanne," creating the iconic dissonant chord heard at the beginning
• Dolly Parton writing both "Jolene" and "I Will Always Love You" in a single day
• The origin of Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit" title (from graffiti referencing a deodorant brand)
• Prince's innovative recording techniques for "When Doves Cry"
• The contrast between Napalm Death's "You Suffer" (the shortest song at 1.316 seconds) and Jethro Tull's "Thick as a Brick" (nearly 44 minutes)
• The worldwide success of The Foundations' "Build Me Up Buttercup" and its enduring appeal
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Well, here we are again. It is the Pat's Peeps podcast. How are you? How you doing? Happy Friday to you. Happy Friday to you. It's the 21st of March 2025. Look at the sun coming through my studio windows from the beautiful foothills of Northern California. It is still kind of one of those mixed bags you know as the sun and clouds, but it's hey, a little occasional sunshine and some rain. Isn't that perfect All. Even, steven, hope you're having a beautiful day. It is a Friday. This is Pat's Peeps 231.
Speaker 1:You know, I remember, wasn't that long ago, we were on a trip to Italy, northern Italy, having this wonderful time before Pats Peeps existed, and I remember being able to stand up on that beautiful coach that we ride in as we travel with the conservative tours, our Pats Peeps group. Now it's the Pats Peeps group. Back then it was not. It was just this group of people that were going because of my radio show. By the way, I host the Pat Walsh Show at KPK Radio in Sacramento, 93.1 FM, 1530 AM and streaming live on your free iHeart app. And this is just like this podcast. Like I always tell you, it's on all your streaming platforms, but I recall that was the time where I got to stand up on the coach and tell everyone all these really fun people, hey, guess what? I have a new business and a new podcast. It's going to be called Pat's Peeps and right away a lot of the people on the coach started listening. And then we went to Italy again. I mean it's just such a blessing to be able to do this, to be able to travel like this. And it went to southern Italy the next time and we did the, started doing the podcast, the Pat's Peeps podcast from there, and then in Ireland and we just have a blast and so, yeah, I'll be going again. This will be heck. We're at the 21st, like I said, of March. So just, I mean literally oh, I don't know 12 days or whatever it is I'll be headed to the Italian Riviera and, like I was saying on yesterday's podcast, I will be doing the podcast from there as well.
Speaker 1:Sometimes it's harder to do it every day, but I'll give it my best shot anyhow. So today here on Pat's Peeps 231, I tell you it's all about music for me today, if you don't mind, I don't have anything really super important I want to get to. Today. I'm in this mood because of the weather. The weather affects kind of my musical mood.
Speaker 1:Just recently something popped up and said Pat based it must have been Spotify, I can't really recall. But it said based on your music selections, we think you might like this record. And I'll tell you what I put this thing on because I already liked the band it was. I didn't like a bunch of the stuff from the 80s. I'm sorry, 80s wasn't my favorite. There's some great bands from that decade but I always liked this band, talk Talk. And I said, okay, so this is an album called Spirit of Eden. I just love it. As soon as I started listening I said, yeah, man, okay. So it's kind of my mood. Music for a Friday. How you doing Song's called the Rainbow. We'll get back to the Rainbow momentarily. Guitar solo.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, the world's turned upside down. Turn me off in a second. How can there be fair at night?
Speaker 1:In the open skies. So this is an album and again, I don't have the rights to this, just trying to expose this to people that may not have ever heard this. It's got a song called Eden. This is the rainbow, it's Eden. It was in the 97 remaster Desiree a song called Inheritance I Believe in you, and another song on here called Wealth. I mean, I feel like it's kind of ahead of its time in a certain way. I just love that. So just talking about music here, I was thinking about another like some really cool little known facts, I don't know why, just kind of random. These are all the things that kind of roll around in my musical mind at times, like things that are just kind of interesting facts. If you don't mind, here I'm Pats Peeps 231. I got a couple of those for you. Yeah, talk, talk, before I get off of that. I was I really in 19, I think it was 1986, they had an album called the Color of Spring and that record to me was just an incredible record. They played a couple of songs off of that that I really liked and I remember I was working.
Speaker 1:I was going to Butte College at the time and I spent some time working for a place called Kira Films and they were out of New York, right there out of Madison Avenue, and they were here to film some Burger King commercials, some national commercials for Burger King. And I remember we even shot some commercials up in beautiful Paradise, california, and in Durham and all around Chico and anyhow. So here comes this crew out of New York and they had been playing some songs from Talk Talk on the radio on KFM 93.9 KFM Ron Woodward, marty Griffin, bruce Campbell, the whole crew up there. Anyhow, they had this song or this album called Color of Spring. I'm trying to pull it up here for you just to see if I can. And they played this song. So I'm out there with this crew Sorry, I was distracted for a second trying to find that and I remember thinking this is a cool tune.
Speaker 1:I'm not really into this decade of music for whatever reason, but I like this song. And then I remember the whole crew from New York when they came out here it must have been a regional thing where KFM was playing it because they were like, wow, what is this song? What is this song? This is a really great song. And I agreed with them this is the song. It was called Living in Another World 1986. I remember when they got they started saying, yeah, I like this, and I was thinking, yeah, I don't know, I agree with you, but it does have that 80s. You know the voice, you know it has that 80s feel to it.
Speaker 2:I like that background percussion. Help me, I'm away from this mess.
Speaker 1:I can't help myself when I sit down, so this was um, oh yeah that's good.
Speaker 2:The.
Speaker 1:Pat's Peeps 231. I remember they had another song that ended up getting used in a Michelob commercial in 1986. It could have been the next year, 1987. I remember they used a Roger Daltrey song from a solo record that he did and they used Phil Collins Genesis tonight, tonight, tonight, and they did that in this Michelob commercial. And they also had this one from Tog Tog in the Michelob commercial. I remember that so well Showed like the nighttime, the skyline, the city, skyline, life's what you make it, michelob, michelob, bet.
Speaker 1:You can find that on YouTube. By the way, some nice feedback from one of you. I'll look it up while we listen to this. I think it was from Ken, ken and Skate. I'd take it back. It was actually from Steve Pat's Peeps podcast listener. Steve saying longer, longer, longer please, and he'd like to have callers on the show. But Steve was saying he'd like the podcasts to be longer. I don't know what do you think about that? You know I have a Pat's Peeps page there on Facebook, so if you'd be kind enough to maybe give me some feedback, I would appreciate that, but longer. I don't want you to get sick of me or anything, but I just. Yeah, I mean, I love the feedback. I really do. So, thank you. Yeah, okay, so we'll see where that goes. Maybe next week we can start that.
Speaker 1:So here's some more little music stuff that I wanted to share with you. Why not? It's a Friday? You know I'm always going to go to music. I'm always going to go to music.
Speaker 1:So here's a very famous song police did right, roxanne, one of their. I believe this is like their first big hit, if I'm not mistaken. You know they were the police, were very much innovators, you know, in terms of some people would say punk. I kind of did you, yeah, I had that sort of punk attitude. Maybe I don't necessarily consider them a punk band, but I can also see the argument. You know, if you were around at the time, there were just bands that were just so different and it was coming out year after year. I mean to me, if you were throw, you know, police into the punk genre in any way, you'd have to throw Elvis Costello in there from the my Amos True album in 77. It was just very different. It had this different feel and edge, much different than what we'd been listening to, myself and others, in terms of hard rock, you know, black Sabbath and Priest. I mean it was just different, even from the 70s Zeppelin, anyhow. So here comes people like the police, blondie, the Cars, devo, you know, the list goes on and on, but the police were so different. The list goes on and on. But the police were so different. I mean they just had this very offbeat, sophisticated, odd sound. I really don't know. You know what I'm talking about. It was just like again, and that's what made it special is because it was just so new and different, and edgy is because it was just so new and different and edgy.
Speaker 1:So if you look back at Roxanne, it might be the most simplistic song on this whole record, their first record. Not many could have played this. I mean there's a really strange solo in the middle of, like the song, so Lonely, so lonely, the offbeat chords. This's a hole in my life. I remember the first time I ever heard that, the first time I ever heard that song. It was just so different. There's a whole I'm sorry I'm singing In my life. It was just so offbeat. Orlando's Damn More, by the way, that's the name of the album 1978. 1978. It was on A&M Records. Went to number six on the UK Albums Chart. Went to number 23 on the Billboard 200 Chart. Wow, but another trippy song off of this is a song called Roxanne, because we heard Eddie Murphy sing.
Speaker 3:Roxanne, you don't have to do that.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, I didn't mean to pierce your eardrums. So you have Sting. He's got this deep knowledge of music theory. And then you have these other offbeat songs. But here comes the more simplistic. I guess I don't even really think it's simplistic, honestly, roxanne. So right before Stuart Copeland's groove starts, you hear this random chord being played on the piano and it's followed by some offbeat studio. You get a little studio chatter in there by Sting the singer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he admitted that he actually sat on the piano lid. They were tracking this song. He said the whole thing was just completely involuntary and he said that you know, there's a piano chord on there. He says I played it with my ass. There was an upright piano right next to him. He says I was singing and I just wanted to rest and the piano lid was open so I sat. So I guess he didn't really sit on the lid, he sat on the actual anyhow. So he says he sat and I and played that chord. He says I think it's in a demolished and it just made him laugh and they left the, the laughter in the record, which I just think is far out and cool, man, I really do. Here. It is police, isn't that great you can hear it go. It's kind of just out of tune. One more time, I mean why not leave?
Speaker 1:that in the song wouldn't be the same without it. I mean, why not leave that in the song? Wouldn't be the same without it. Happy Friday, hope you're doing well wherever you are. Thank you for listening. Talking some music, pat's Peeps 231. Here's a couple of other things I thought was kind of interesting, if I may. Little music, trivia, not trivia so much, just some interesting factoids, if you will. Everyone who doesn't love Dolly Parton? My gosh, what a lovely lady Dolly Parton talented. I love her accent. She's so cute. How talented is Dolly Parton? The iconic songs Jolene, which is one that I really love, and then I Will Always Love you, by Dolly Parton. She composed both of these iconic songs, this one, Jolene, Jolene, Jolene, Jolene.
Speaker 3:Please don't take him just because you can.
Speaker 1:Okay, and this one, I will always love you.
Speaker 1:I will always love you. Dolly Parton. The talented, sweet, lovely Dolly Parton composed both of those iconic songs in one day. How about this one? Pat's Peeps 231. That's right, baby. Happy Friday, yeah, yeah, hey, don't forget the air shows in town. It's going to be a sunny weekend. Highs in the 60s, lower 70s. Thanks for listening to Pat's Peeps number 231.
Speaker 1:Smells like teen spirit, spirit, nirvana. Title of the song was inspired by a buddy of Kurt Cobain's who wrote, quote Kurt smells like teen spirit in graffiti, Referencing a popular deodorantant. In case you didn't know, hello, hello, hello, I'm lost. Now, it's a dangerous. Here we are now, entertain us. I'm a stupid, it's contagious. Here we are now, entertain us. I'm a liar, I'm a fighter, I'm a skater, I'm a fiend. Yeah, hey, all right, a couple of other things here. How about this one? How about the song?
Speaker 1:Prince's One Doves Cry? Prince recorded the synthesizer solo that we're all so familiar with if you know Prince and you've been listening to radio for a while and he recorded the synthesizer solo for this song at half speed and then pitched an octave lower, and then he sped that up to create the final track. This is what it sounds like when the doves cry, touching you in my stomach, feel how it trembles inside. You've got the butterflies all tied up. Don't make me chase you. Even doves that cry. You ever wonder. Maybe you have, maybe you haven't. We ever wonder, you know, when it comes to a lot of songs out there, obviously like okay, so I'm thinking about it. I wonder what the shortest song ever is. There's a lot of long songs. People say, oh, that song was so long Alice's Restaurant and others, which has been featured on this Pat's Peeps podcast during Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1:What about the shortest song? That honor goes to a band with a very uplifting name, napalm Death. The song you Suffer by Napalm Death holds the world record for the shortest song, at just 1.316 seconds. All right, here we go. Now. This version says four seconds. Maybe this is the extended version. Here we are. The shortest song in the world you Suffer, napalm Death, pats Peeps 231. That's it. Yeah, it's only 1.31 seconds. All right, we got the brand new one here. This is from the new title track from Napalm Death. Well, no, the album is called Scum. I don't know how long that one is. Here's a new track from Napalm Death. You've been waiting for this one. Been waiting a long time, couple years for this one. Here we go. This is you Suffer, there you go, thank you.
Speaker 1:Well, heck, what if that's Patrick? No, I'm just making that up, it's the. That's the voice in my head right now. Uh, if that's the case, I wonder then what would be the the shortest, I mean the longest song? What would be the longest song then? You know, most people would never, ever get this, because this is quite a curveball. The longest song goes to none other than Jethro Tull.
Speaker 5:Thick as a brick. Really don't mind if you sit this one out. My words but a whisper. Your deafness a shout.
Speaker 1:It is the longest song ever recorded.
Speaker 5:I make you feel that I can't make you think. Now, if you're thinking, well, I've heard this song before. It is the longest song ever recorded. Now, if you're thinking when I've heard this song before, this can't be the longest song, clearly not as long as American Pie or MacArthur Park and you make all your animal deals and your wise men don't know how it feels. You'd be sick as a brick.
Speaker 1:What a beautiful song, by the way, I just love Tall. Well, here's the thing the song is so long. It's the only track on the album. That's it. That's it. It's side A and it's side B. It's thick as a brick, 43 minutes and 50 seconds. So when someone says what's your favorite song off?
Speaker 5:thick as a brick it's might as well say Thick as a Brick. All right.
Speaker 1:Let's see what else we have. Okay, here's some more factoids for you. Oh, this is so good though.
Speaker 5:I love it.
Speaker 1:Beautiful. Wow See, I could just listen to all 43, whatever minutes of that song. What? Okay, here you go. This is a lot of people wouldn't know this, so this song is. So here's the band, the band Toto. You know, the band Toto. Gotta take the life to take me away from you.
Speaker 3:There's nothing that a hundred men or more could ever do.
Speaker 1:You know the band Toto certainly had a lot of hits. My favorite is still Hold the Line. Of course, a lot of people like this one. Did you know that Toto was Michael Jackson's backing band on the album Thriller? That's right, that's Toto. Toto was the backing band for Thriller. Come on, where's the credit for Toto on that record? Meanwhile, in the whatever happened to this person category, whatever happened to Bobby Gentry? I often wonder. She had a song, classic, iconic song that is just haunting and cool, and it was very popular. It was a song called Ode to Billy Joe by Bobby Gentry. You would think, geez, yeah, I remember that that was a big like country hit or something like that. Maybe it was a pop or country, right, you know the song Peaked Higher. Here it is.
Speaker 4:And then she said I got some news this morning.
Speaker 1:This song Peaked Higher on the Rhythm and Blues, the R&B chart than on the country singles chart.
Speaker 4:Billy Jim McAllister jumped off the Tallahatchie Bridge. Papa said to Mama as he passed around the black-eyed peas Well, Billy Joe never had a lick of sense. Pass the biscuits, please. There's five more acres in the lower 40. I got to plow and Mama said it was a shame about Billy Joe. Anyhow.
Speaker 1:Just don't know whatever happened to Bobby Gentry. She kind of just came and went, no good, up on Choctaw Ridge, that's.
Speaker 4:Peeps 231. To.
Speaker 1:Bobby Gentry. She kind of just came and went.
Speaker 4:That's Peeps 231.
Speaker 1:All right, here's another interesting little tidbit for you. I hope you're enjoying this. Thank you for letting me do this today and see a little musical on this Friday, the 21st of March 2025. Gilbert Baker who's Gilbert Baker? What did he do? Well, he signed a. He he, gilbert Baker, designed the rainbow pride flag. That's right. What inspired him? This inspired him. This inspired him.
Speaker 1:The Rolling Stones'. She's a Rainbow. What a great, great tune. Turn oh yeah. She comes in colors everywhere.
Speaker 1:You know, when I listen to this, this will be a talking point on my, maybe even tonight on my show. I just thought about this. When I hear this, this tells me I like the Beatles, I mean the Stones, I mean I just I love the Beatles and the Stones, but this just shows how deep and complex they could be. The Rolling Stones and we're all just about rhythm rock, blues, rhythm and blues rock. I would say this, though I think the Stones were obviously influenced by the Bills at the time Putting the strings in there.
Speaker 1:All right, here's another one. You know, yesterday I was talking about my son Tim's birthday. I ended up playing to Guns N' Roses and I said there was kind of a choice. I had Guns N' Roses, welcome to the Jungle. And I went with that just because of my son's kind of a. You know he was kind of a rock and roll attitude, so I went with that. And I mentioned that I had another record I could have went with that, just because of my son's kind of a. You know he was kind of a rock and roll attitude, so I played with that. And I mentioned that I had another record I could have went with, which is a more of a pop song. I would say that it's more of a pop song.
Speaker 1:This is on. This is well. It says uni, which would be universal, right, very colorful, speaking of a rainbow, it's got like a green, blue and sort of a fuchsia. I guess that's fuchsia colored, sort of swirls. Yellow label, promotional copy, not for sale. It's got a sticker that says 488 from the radio station. They wrote on there with a felt pin 4010. And then there's even on the other side of it. It's the same song on both sides, but they even wrote a couple other things 1969, they wrote on there on a sticker. On this. Let's see, in terms of the record it's in decent shape. It's not perfect but it looks pretty good. Again, same song both sides. So this is I haven't heard this one in a long time, but I think this is a good song.
Speaker 1:Song written by Mike Diabo and Tony McCauley and released by this group in 1968. This says 69, but released in 68, with Colin Young singing the lead vocals. Young had replaced Clem Curtis during 1968, and this was the first for this band, the first hit which he sang. What's number one On the cash box top 100. Number three on the US Billboard Hot 100. This was an early see. There you go, 1969. So that's very accurate on the record label.
Speaker 1:Also a number two hit in the United Kingdom for two non-consecutive weeks behind Lily the Pink by Scaffold, and it was quickly certified gold by the radio record industry. Their sales over a million US copies featured in the 98 romantic comedy film. There's something about Mary. It went to 14 in Argentina, 1 in Australia. Let's see. What else can I tell you about this. Canada went to number 1 there. Ireland number 3. I mean it was popular everywhere. Netherlands 9. New Zealand 4. Norway, it was 3. South Africa 3. Uk, like I mentioned, number 2. Number 24 in West Germany. So without further ado, let me throw it on the turntable here. This is a song called Build Me Up, buttercup the Foundations, here we go. Why do you build me up?
Speaker 3:But if I'm brave, just to let me down and mess me around. And then, worst of all, you never thought that, even when you say you will. But I love you still. I need you more than anyone darling. You know that I have from the start. So build me a thing proud and tough, don't break my heart. I'll be over at ten. You told me time and again, but you're late. I'll wait around and then I run to the door. I can't take anymore. It's not you. You let me down again, baby, baby, try to find A little time and I'll make you happy. I'll be home, I'll be beside the phone waiting for you. Why do you build me up, buttercup baby, just to let me down and mess me around. And then, worst of all, you never thought, baby, when you say you will.
Speaker 1:But I love you still. I need you for that. Anyone darling, it's kind of nice to have this playing and the sun coming through the windows today. It's a nice combination, hey, thank you. Thank you. Thank you for listening to my podcast. I'll tell you, it means so much to me. I'm so grateful, and I was just told yesterday that a lot of you are going to the Pat's Peeps. Please, go to Pat's Peeps, please, and check out our local businesses. Together we can support them and save you money. So please, I ask you, go to patspeepscom and look at our little mall there with our businesses. We added 10 more this week. Hey, see you on the radio.
Speaker 3:Happy Friday. Never call baby when you say you will, but I love you still. I need you More than anyone. Darling, you know that I have got this all. So build me up, baby For the clock. Don't break my heart. I need you More than anyone. Baby, you know that I have got this all.
