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Ep. 257 Today's Peep Sound Waves: The Journey of Musical Discovery, Do We Really Stop Finding New Music After 30? He Thought He Was A Genius But He's Not Reaching His Dreams in Today's Rare-Record Spin
Does our musical curiosity genuinely wither away after age 30? Today's episode challenges this common belief as we dive into the fascinating world of lifelong musical discovery.
Far Out Magazine recently posed this provocative question about our relationship with music as we age. The article suggests that around age 31, most people stop actively discovering new artists and genres, settling into the comfortable sonic landscapes of their youth. But does this musical cul-de-sac truly represent an inevitable part of aging, or is it simply a choice we make?
Drawing from personal experience, I share my ongoing journey of musical discovery spanning decades. From stumbling upon Jimmy Webb's haunting rendition of "Wichita Lineman" to being captivated by the unexpected collaboration between Sting and Shaggy, these revelations didn't come from actively trying to stay "hip" – they emerged organically through conversations, travel experiences, and maintaining an open ear to new sounds. The Drive-By Truckers became one of my favorite bands after repeatedly catching their distinctive sound on television, while discovering artists like Kruangbin while traveling in Italy and encountering RL Burnside's blues grooves demonstrate that musical horizons can continue expanding well beyond our thirties.
What keeps our musical curiosity alive isn't necessarily youth, but rather our willingness to remain open to new experiences. In an era where algorithms feed us more of what we already know, creating space for musical serendipity becomes increasingly valuable. Whether through friends with different tastes, travel to places with unique musical traditions, or simply taking time to explore unfamiliar sounds, the pathways to discovery remain open if we choose to walk them.
What about your musical journey? Has your discovery of new artists slowed with age, or have you found ways to keep your sonic adventures vibrant and surprising? Share your experiences and favorite recent musical discoveries – I'd love to hear how you're continuing to expand your musical horizons!
Hello there, welcome. How are you? Happy Wednesday. It's a Wednesday. It's a Wednesday, may the 7th, 2025. It is the Pat's Peeps podcast and I certainly certainly appreciate you being a part of the podcast, as here we are at number 257. Let's keep rolling along. We'll keep doing it and for those of you who are listening, which I noticed this week, we have a lot more listeners. We're gaining steam man. We're snowballing.
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Speaker 1:So yeah, by the way, speaking of supporting local, I'm watching the A's. They're at home. I mean, it's just unbelievable. They're at Sutter Hill Park in Sacramento. By the way, I'm the host of the Pat Wall Show in Sacramento at KPK News Radio 93.1 FM, 1530 AM, streaming live on all your streaming platforms, including your iHeart, and so you know we're rooting for the A's. Because the A's we can't even call them the Sacramento A's. You know the A's are playing at Sutter Health Park in Sacramento and there wasn't a whole lot of expectations for this team coming into the year. But guess what, here they are, like last night. So they're playing Seattle the Mariners. Last night they had a chance to get into a virtual tie for first place in the AL West, the A's playing right here in Sacramento. They ended up losing the game. They had a big lead and they lost the game Today had a big lead 5-1, and I've watched that evaporate, dissipate, whatever you want to call it. It's gone. I just watchedattle put up two, so it is six to five right now in favor of the mariners.
Speaker 1:Let's see. What do we have? Oh, we have some listener content. Just a couple of things from listener content. If we, if we get to it.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I'm not. I don't know if I'm in the mood to listen to that today. Honestly, I'm in a really good mood and and the one video that I did watch that was in the listener content it is a little loud for me today. I'm in a mellow mood. That's right On Pat's Peeps 257. So you know what I'm going to talk about. This is listener content and this comes from Sean. Sean is a great listener in Oklahoma, in them, oklahoma hills, where I was born, hank Thompson, thank you. Anyone remember Hank Thompson? The great Hank Thompson Sean is a listener who sends me a lot of great content, calls my radio show as well, and this came from her. Let's see when do we go. Oh, she says, I continuously discover new music that I have not heard before, and so she sent me a link. Let's see what else do we have here. Oh, I don't know how long this is.
Speaker 1:Jerry cantrell reveals his favorite led zeppelin song. Huh, I I hadn't heard this one. I missed this one. Um, anyhow, it's not where I was going. Let's see what it says. It's funny.
Speaker 1:I read an interview with Jethro Tull frontman, ian Anderson, from 1978 or 79. He was asked about how he came up with his own sound. I recalled Cantrell and his answer was something like quote uh, quoting Ian Anderson we couldn't do heavy rhythm and blues because Led Zeppelin were doing the best band in the world for that. Or they were the best band in the world for that. He says we couldn't do bluesy rock and roll because the Rolling Stones were the best at that, and we couldn't do trippy space rock because Pink Floyd were the best at that. So we tried to fill the gap and I thought that was effing great. Okay, that's great, that is good.
Speaker 1:But you know she sent me an article which is from Far Out Magazine. That is a cool name Far Out, that is a Far Out name. Thank you for turning me on to Far Out. There, sean, Appreciate it. This is does new music discovery really stop in your 30s? I may even do this on my show tonight because I'd like to get some listener input on this but does new music discovery really stop in your 30s is the question that they pose.
Speaker 1:This is from Matthew in Gate, who says remember how excited, how exciting it used to be when you discover a new band or artist, how you would seemingly unearth a new album or song or singer every day and become new and better, and become a new and better version of yourself each and every time as a result. Well, when was the last time it happened to you? Six months ago, two years ago, five, ten or more? He goes on to ask the question. Ponder the question, if you will. Do you remember when you were genuinely excited to hear a new release or find a new band? Oh, I have another one. I'm thinking of them I don't want to forget these as I'm talking about this or when you actively anticipated new music from otherwise unheard of geniuses, instead of stumbling across new albums from your old favorites six months after everyone else has grown bored from them, when you could wow everybody with your wide and varied tastes and how ahead of the curve you were, instead of feeling lost in a sea of new releases and artists, names that you'd never heard of and which you can also never seem to commit to memory.
Speaker 1:So this is part of the far out article says what changed. Then you might be wondering that did you lose? Essentially, I'm going to paraphrase here, so I don't want to read verbatim everything did you lose your spirit of adventure? Isn't there any new music that you might think is as good as the old stuff? He asks some of the stuff that you liked in your teenage year teenage years. Well, the keys to all of that, he says, is likely to do with your age, rather than the music. The chances are you're just on the other side of being 30 years old Ever since the invention of the teenager.
Speaker 1:I don't know what that means 1944 to be precise. Is that true? Wait a second. What I made the need to bing that one. Really, is that a thing that? Was that invented? Did they come up with that in 1944? I've never heard that. Wait a second, hold on a minute. Ha, okay, that's interesting. See, I'll just go off on a tangent right there. Okay, there's something I never knew. While the term teenager gained prominence in the 1940s, the concept of teenagers as a distinct age group emerged. Age group emerged earlier, around the 1930s. The word teenager likely debuted in print in 1941. Wow, and the term became popular as a marketing, I guess in marketing. Neologism. I don't know what that is. Neologium, ah, never mind, I'm going to say this word. I've never seen this word. Neologism, oh.
Speaker 2:God.
Speaker 1:All right, I never edit my I'm sorry, so unprofessional I swear. I hope that didn't sound as bad to you as it sounded in my head when I said that I think I need to light the cigar. That's just what I need to do. Oh my God, I had to go down this road. Anyone know that word? Yeah, pat, I know that word. I've used that word a few times. Dang it anyhow. Well, it became a popular term I could have just said term in the late 40s and early 50s.
Speaker 1:But look, a 1944 Life Magazine article discussed the teenage phenomenon. The idea of teenagers as a unique group Boy I'm going off script here Distinct from both children and adults, started to take a hold in the 1930s, fueled by factors like extension of universal education, blah, blah, blah. I'll get into that on my show tonight. That just kind of caught me off guard. So anyhow, back to the article. Who's this guy again? Matthew Engate, all right, from far out. Anyhow, the point is, here's what they're suggesting. The bottom line all right, data shows, according to him, that, according to Matthew there, that goes on to suggest that 31 is the age where true experimentation with your taste has pretty much come to an end, while another online study has suggested that 33 may be a more accurate figure to indicate when our tastes become a cultural cul-de-sac. Whatever, okay, whatever, okay, whatever, I get it, you get the point Anyhow.
Speaker 1:So you know, maybe that's true, I don't know. I never really thought about that because for me, for me, I always seem to be discovering new music. I have so many examples here of music that I've just discovered. Now, I mean, maybe I haven't, you know, in a couple of cases it's not like I've never heard of the artist or maybe never heard of the song, or maybe never heard of the song, but quite honestly, just organically, talking to Eileen, one of the Pats Peeps Hi, eileen, erlene, she talks music. She's just a sweet person talking music. She's going to see this guy you know, jimmy Webb, and I'm like, oh man, jimmy Webb, I mean you talk about a great songwriter, but talking about discovering music.
Speaker 1:So I, this is from 1996. I've always loved this song and I've always loved it by Glenn Campbell Campbell, you know. So I know the song I know of Jimmy Webb, but I've never really heard Jimmy Webb do this song. Here he is and I absolutely love it. This is Jimmy Webb Wichita Lineman from a 1996 album called 10 Easy Pieces. I literally just discovered this.
Speaker 2:I am a lineman for the county and I drive the main roads.
Speaker 3:Searching in the sun for another overload.
Speaker 2:I hear you singing in the wires. I can hear you through the wine. I can hear you through the wine and the Wichita Lion man is still on the line.
Speaker 1:Wow, I mean, I'm just blown away. I love this. I love it Trying to get him on to do an interview. We did the Barry Manilow interview yesterday. If you missed that, please go back and check out Pat's Peeps 156. I'll give you another one and let me put this in context. I know both of these artists, but I knew them in Sting's case as Sting who you know, his solo stuff and, of course, with the police, I knew Shaggy. I know his music. Both of them are a couple of my favorites to listen to when I'm in spring training, for instance, and some other places. I'll listen to Shaggy out there when it's nice and sunny, I don't know. And then Sting, I listen to him in Italy. You put them together. I discovered this one maybe two years ago Sting and Shaggy.
Speaker 3:It's a beautiful day For me to rock around your way. I want to say Sting.
Speaker 4:It's a beautiful day for me to rock around your way. Oh, I don't wanna say sting Sweet nightingale.
Speaker 2:Why do you wake me so, sweet nightingale? You're telling me something I don't know. It's quarter to three you're're singing, driving me right out of my tree. I'm so tired that I could weep when all the other breweries are so fast asleep. The morning is coming.
Speaker 1:It's Revelation Day. This is from the album 44 Slash 876. I'm not sure how they do that, but it's a great record.
Speaker 3:So good, I need my beauty sleep, whatever you say Wake up, it's a beautiful day, wake up. Don't you hear what I say, Cause I be rockin' in my shoes To this sweet reggae groove. Ain't nobody gonna spoil my mood.
Speaker 1:So that's another one I discovered recently, also discovered Snowy White. Anyone know Snowy White? I mean, it's a song called how Was it For you? I probably discovered this. Maybe six months ago. Snowy White album released what you may not know about him. Okay, is he played with Thin Lizzy, english guitarist. Give you another one that I discovered. Probably, I don't know. I probably discovered this one, uh, maybe three, oh I don't know maybe two or three years ago. Anyone know RL Burnside? Rl Burnside so many great songs. I'll just play this one. It's called Going Down South. It's a bothered mind song called Going Down South. I just discovered this stuff. What about you? Did you stop discovering music in your 30s?
Speaker 3:More lies, more conversation, girl. It really don't matter, cause I'm not leaving. You Say you're hanging with another man. You gotta get more creative, girl. I ain't believing you. Stop trying. Stop contemplating, girl. Nothing in this world's gonna make me break. It's gonna take much more to get me out your life. I ain't tiptoe time. I'm going to tell you straight I'm going with you, babe. I'm going with you, baby. I'm going with you babe.
Speaker 1:I don't care where you go, rl Burnside, you should check him out, man, he's got some good tunes. He's got some older blues-sounding stuff, some more produced things like this. I can remember probably I don't know 12, 13 years ago by the way, I was not in my 30s Discovering. Every time I would have my TV on a channel that played music and it played a lot of deep cuts from bands I didn't know. Every time I heard this particular band I'd run out to my TV and say who is this? And inevitably it would be this band called the drive-by truckers, which has been, which has become my favorite band since then, say over the last 12, 15 years. This is from the Drive-By Truckers, a song called Tornadoes from the album the Dirty South, pat's Peeps 257.
Speaker 2:The clouds started forming 5 o'clock pm, the funnel clouds touched down Five miles north of Russellville. The sirens were blowing, clouds spat rain and as the thing came through I swear it sounded like a train. He came without no warning, said Bobby Joe McClain. She and husband Nolan always love to watch the rain.
Speaker 1:Might have been 20 years ago At least 15 years ago I discovered him. I love the guitar that's Patterson Hood singing. I love this guitar, mike Cooley guitar solo Pieces of that I can just picture. I can just picture the scene that he's singing about.
Speaker 2:I hear that missing trucker Ended up in Kansas, or maybe it was Oz.
Speaker 1:You know this band is. Patterson Hood is singing there, but, yeah, mike Cooley, who also sings and writes. You have Jason Isbell, who has now left the band and he is out on his own doing his own thing, but that is a multi-talented band that I discovered years ago. Here's one that I can't even pronounce, and I discovered them when I was in Italy the first time. Maybe you know about them. I don't that I can't even pronounce, and I discovered them when I was in Italy the first time. Maybe you know about them. I don't think I can pronounce the name. This is it's K-H-R-U-A-N-G-B-I-N, so Kruangbin. I don't know. I'll just play one of their songs. This is a song called May 9th. It's different. I like it, I guess. My point is I guess I discover new music. I do, anyhow.
Speaker 1:What about you? Did you stop discovering new music In your 30s? Are you in your 30s? Are you in your 30s? Here's one by him called Texas Sun. I would hate to quit discovering music. I always want to discover new music. Oh, there's another one that I just discovered I was just thinking about. So this is that same band, and I don't know all of their music, but I love their sound. So I'll give you a couple of more here. Let's try. I hope you don't mind me doing this. I told you I'm just having a little bit of fun. What the heck I'm listening to. This band called what is this Cage? The Elephant? What Just discovered them recently Ain't no rest for the wicked I like it.
Speaker 4:I was walking down the street when, out the corner of my eye, I saw a pretty little thing approaching me. She said I've never seen a man who looks so all alone. Could you use a little company? If you pay the right price, your evening will be nice and you can go and send me on my way. I said you're such a sweet old thing why you do this to yourself. She looked at me and this is what she said oh, there ain't no rest for the wicked. Money don't grow on trees. I got bills to pay. I got miles to be. It ain't nothing in this world for free. I know I can't slow down. I can't hold back, though you know I wish I could. I know there ain't no rest for the wicked until we close our eyes for good.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's good man I like that I saw the shadow of a man creep out of sight.
Speaker 1:All right, I don't want to get in trouble playing too much, but I love it. I'll give you the one more because they keep coming to me. Discovered Spoon, probably eight or ten years ago, jim. Can you record the talk back Record that Jim eight or ten years ago? Jim, can you record the talk back record that Jim bet?
Speaker 4:bet, bet you got it all planned. Right Bet you never worry, never even feel a fright. Bet you got it all planned right.
Speaker 1:By the way, I do not claim to own any material, graphic, any audio, excuse me in the song, this creation of this is entirely unlinked to my existence in every way, except that I discovered it. Spoon Gaga. I don't like the name of the album, gaga, whatever but I like the song. I like this song. Just some of the songs, some of the music that I've discovered. What about you? What about you? Do you discover any new music that you really like past the age of 31?
Speaker 1:I'm going to go back here now to one that I'm very familiar with. I mean this one. I can't say I discovered this one. I guess I did, but it was played on a radio back in 1974. I have it in my hot little hands. No, I did for a second. Hold on, there it is Now I have it in my hot little hands. All right, this artist, oh, I love this artist. Tragic case of this artist. By the way, this is a white label promotional copy, not for sale. Abc records. It's white, stereo on one side, mono on the other side. On the label it says 1973, but this song is a 1974 single written and recorded by this great artist. Always loved this artist. It was the third single released from his album.
Speaker 1:You talk about someone who had such a short life and so many hits like Hank Williams and so many others. That, and so many hits like Hank Williams and so many others that, well, I can't say so many others. I mean, it's just remarkable Anyhow, but this was. It went to number 32, july of 74, billboard Hot 100. It was his last top 40 hit to date. It was also the fourth single released. The fourth single released, but the other one, but including a Christmas-themed release called it Doesn't have to Be that Way after this gentleman's death in September of 73.
Speaker 1:The artist describing this song as having a funky street feel. I always felt this way about kind of the stuff that he did Almost all of it really. He had beautiful songs but he did have that funky street feel. During a performance he explained that the song. He explained it as a story about a guy who thinks that he should be running the universe somewhere, but he's well, he's not, he's working at another job. He came up with the idea, said while in the military at Fort Jackson, running telephone cables on poles, thinking he should be doing something else Well, on top of the pole, thought about everyone in the same situation, thinking they should be doing another gig and have a different job, just like I used to do, working at the olive plant In the song.
Speaker 1:A man has just been released from a 90-day prison sentence for non-support. Believing himself to be an undiscovered Howard Hughes and a genius tries to smooth talk his way into an exec position. Every company he drives, though, turns him down. They've got no openings, so now he's got to do the menial work Without further ado again. He died way, way too early, but you could always feel Jim Croce's music, especially when this dude's working at the car wash and he has the blues.
Speaker 5:Executive position. But no matter how smooth I talk, they wouldn't listen to the fact that I was a genius. The man said we got all that we can use Now. I got that steadily depressing, low-down, mind-missing, working at the car wash blue and the A's just lost Six to five, your final. Sutter help park my office in a swivel chair. 6-5, your-missing working at the car wash.
Speaker 1:Rest in peace, jim Croce. I love that guy man. Thanks for listening. Pat's Peeps 257. Happy Wednesday. See you on the radio.
Speaker 5:I get myself straight, I guess I'll just have to wait in my rubber suit, rubber knees car. Well, all I can do is to shake my head. You might not believe that it's true, but working at this end on Niagara Falls Is undiscovered Howard Hughes. So, baby, don't expect to see me With no double martini in my eyebrow Society news cause I got them. I'll see you next time.
