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Ep. 270 Today's Peep Recognizes the Enduring Legacy of Talk Radio: A Radio Host's Reflection on Syndication, Success and Staying True, Essence of Watermelon, and Perhaps You Will Like Today's Rare-Record Spin Better Than I Do
Have you ever wondered what it's like to be a dying breed? As possibly the last local evening talk radio host in America, I've found myself in a curious position reflecting on what success truly means in broadcasting today.
After nearly 12 years hosting my show on KFBK, I've built something special through a deceptively simple formula: treating people with respect, avoiding divisiveness, and creating space for real conversation. It's this approach that's allowed me to thrive while so many local shows have disappeared from the airwaves, replaced by syndicated programming or reruns.
In this episode, I share the untold story of my near-syndication in 2020 – how I was poised to expand to markets like San Diego and Portland before pandemic-related layoffs derailed those plans. But this seeming setback prompted deeper reflection: would syndication truly represent success if it meant sacrificing the creative freedom I currently enjoy? When you syndicate, other voices inevitably enter the decision-making process about content and approach. My measure of success isn't market reach but rather the deep connection with listeners both on traditional radio and through this growing podcast.
I also pay tribute to radio legend Tom Sullivan, who's retiring after four decades of broadcasting excellence. His departure marks another significant shift in our industry landscape, though he'll continue connecting with audiences through podcasting. Additionally, I wade into the controversial topic of California's transgender athlete rules, offering perspective on fairness in women's sports.
The episode closes with a dive into my record collection, featuring Culture Club's massive hit "Karma Chameleon" – though I confess it's never been a personal favorite despite its enormous commercial success!
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welcome. Hey, thank you for listening. It's the pats peeps podcast. My goodness, it makes me so happy when you listen. It's May 28th. My God, this month is flying by. May 28th 2025. It is a Wednesday. It's a beautiful day.
Speaker 1:As I look out the studio windows into the foothills of California, northern California, that is Absolutely gorgeous day. Today we are expecting I don't know, temperatures maybe in the 80s or something like that, Maybe upper 70s. But then here's the thing it's going to change. This weekend we get the first triple digits, first triple digit temperatures here in Sacramento, and I don't want to hear any complaints this year. I mean not that anyone is going to complain to me. Patrick, listen, I got to complain to you about the weather. Yeah, people, we complain. We're so spoiled here. You know we. Oh it's. You know I wish the sun would come out. I'm tired of the. You know the winter had it. I want summer. Then sun comes out. Oh, it's so hot. Everyone's happy when it comes to fall, but I am enjoying the spring.
Speaker 1:By the way, today, with the essence of water, it's an inside joke. It's a hint of watermelon. This water. I paid extra for this water. Water infused with various flavors, of the water infused with watermelon essence. I paid extra for it. There's essence of something in there. Honestly, if you blindfolded me and told me you guessed the essence, it's called hint. You guessed the essence, you know. You get a thousand bucks. I don't know. Maybe I would say roses, let me try again. Petunias I don't know what those taste, like watermelon I mean, maybe blueberries, I don't know. Anyhow, thank you to Eileen for the birthday cake. Ladies and gentlemen, just such nice people. Thank you, that was very, very special, made my birthday very nice. You know my birthday is in the books, but it seemed like it lasted for two weeks. Hey, I want to also say yeah, eileen. Thank you very much, gregory. Thank you, gregory called my show last night.
Speaker 1:By the way, I am the host of the Pat Walsh Show. My radio show is heard on KFBK AM and FM in Sacramento, 93.1 FM, 1530 AM, and I am the evening host, one of the last, if not the last, local evening talk radio host in the United States of America, and I'm not even kidding you on that. I mean, there are some radio shows that are local. Most of those are going to be affiliated with a sports franchise. All right, welcome to Cleveland Browns postgame talk. We got another two hours to talk about what a brownie suck. You know that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:But in terms of just like a general talk show at night local, I think we are it, I'm pretty sure. All right, I've been told that I don't know, I haven't done the research, but people I respect in the business, people I respect in the business, people I respect in the business and they told me this. They said, yeah, you guess how many local talk shows there are left in the United States at night in that time slot that are not affiliated? I said, I don't know, 200 Zippo. And again, I don't know if that's true and I'm not bragging. It's kind of scary in a way. I mean, all the other dominoes have fallen, but here I am working on 12 years, a dozen years on my show. I just cannot believe it, as we started October 14th 2013. And here we are coming up. In a few months It'll be 12 years, which, as I understand it, maybe again I'm wrong, I don't know, but in my time of listening to the great heritage station of KFBK radio, I've never heard another show in that time slot. And you know, I think we can attribute to a couple of things. One I don't. We don't argue, and it argue. My show isn't about arguing and dividing, none of that. It's about, you know, treating people with respect. It's about well, there's a couple of things Supporting the local businesses.
Speaker 1:What can I do? If you're listening to me, you know Gregory called my show last night, you know, and he it was a great call. He says, pat, you know, I'm listening to your podcast and I love the podcast, and when someone says that to me, then other people will give it an opportunity. And so Gregory and I'm getting these calls every night on my radio show. That is great crossover right there. Because, you know, instead of me trying to encourage you to listen, people are calling in and say you know what I love listening to your podcast as I'm driving down the road.
Speaker 1:You know, if any of you I'm trying to be, look, I never try to make these a commercial. I do everything I can not to be divisive. I try to do everything I can. I'll tell you that here on Pat's Peeps 270. And I keep plowing forward day after day with this. I love it. I love talking and hanging out with you guys, all I'm.
Speaker 1:You know what we'd love to do besides this, I don't even think, you know, maybe you do what it would mean to me personally and I never ask for anything. I mean, I'm just grateful you listen to my podcast, but more so for you and for the businesses. Seriously, this is a win-win-win. How do we do that, please? All I'm asking you to do is just go to patspeepscom and look at our businesses. You know they have really great deals and you will get an exclusive deal just by saying Pat's Peeps, no coupons, none of that, and I'm not turning this into a commercial, it is just, you know, an essential part of this that I would love for you to do.
Speaker 1:And then I'll start getting comments from these businesses going, pat, the people that are listening to your podcast. Man, they are outrageous. I got to tell you, shout out, they're coming in, they're going. Yeah, okay, I heard about you on Pat's Beeps. And then you get the special deal. I want to be. I want to match you two up, you who are listening.
Speaker 1:If you just go on there and look at it, that'd be great. I'm not going to go on and on, right, let's see. You know, I want to see there. I just got to cut some random things here. I can't believe it's Pat's peeps 270. There was a let's see. Oh, where is this? Oh boy, where did I put that I had something? What is this? Oh, this. I forgot what this was. Let me open this real quick. You know I was also mentioning this is not what I was looking for. I need to find that. But this is labeled Tom Sullivan. I'm not exactly sure what this is labeled Tom Sullivan. I'm not exactly sure what this is.
Speaker 1:For those of you who don't know and I did talk about it yesterday and I talked about it on my show last night that Tom Sullivan is leaving this week. This is his last week of his radio show after four decades, or whatever it's been for Tom. He's finally going to say all right, enough's enough. I understand he's going to be podcasting. I mentioned that yesterday, but you know, it's quite the legacy when you last that long at a single radio station and then go syndicated man, that's really saying something. I cannot remember what this is. I'll be honest with you. It's labeled Tom Sullivan and of course, I'm going to be wishing Tom the very best. What is this? A couple of minutes long, I forgot what it is, but I think it's me and Tom Sullivan All right, so let's take a listen together on Pat's Peeps 270. Tom.
Speaker 2:Sullivan Pat Walsh here. Your last show was Friday. I cannot believe it.
Speaker 1:What a legacy. That's what this is. It's not me and Tom. It's not me and Tom. All right, this is me doing Okay. So I wasn't sure. I just saw that there. I said what I forgot about this.
Speaker 1:This is me doing some liners, radio promos Not promo messages for Tom Sullivan, because he's leaving and they're going to be playing. Oh. So, all right, you get a little preview. They might be playing these now on the air at BK. So they asked if we could do some messages for Tom. And boy, I better preview this. I don't know what this is in here. Well, it's got to be good. No, I think I'm good. I have a little taste of my essence of watermelon. Okay, I'm trying to get that hint of watermelon Anyhow. So they said can everyone do some messages, some liners, for Tom as he's getting ready to retire? And they asked me to do that and I just came up with these on the fly. I forgot what I said, but we'll listen.
Speaker 1:Tom Sullivan, pat Walsh here, your last show was Friday. I cannot believe it. What a legacy. Four decades of great talk radio, and I thank you for that, tom. It's been wonderful working with you and getting to know you over the years now I still want to say this tom, thank you, you are the only person who ever created a bobblehead doll of me for me, and you told me that year. Pat, you're the only person I got a present for this Christmas. Good luck, tom, and I truly thank you. True story I remember that day. True story that bobblehead is still up there on my desk. I think I mentioned that on the show yesterday. Let's see what the second liner I did message for Tom for his final show.
Speaker 1:Tom Sullivan, pat Walsh hey, your last show's coming up. I can't believe that. Good luck with your podcast, good luck in the future. And you're one of the first guys that ever did a couple of liners for my show on the Pat Walsh Show. I'll never forget that. I always appreciate that. I wish you nothing but the best, tom, in your future endeavors. Yeah, he did.
Speaker 1:Tom and I had worked together for many years and he, when I got my show, was so excited he said, yeah, let me do a couple of little liners we call them liners, whatever you want to call them, little promos, whatever for the show. And Tom did those and he did more. But somebody erased them from my computer. I'm upset about that. I spent so much time looking for those last night to play on my show. I got these great liners from Tom and someone to the audacity I'm going to use that word to erase them from my audio files. Wasn't happy about that. Tom Sullivan's show was last Friday. What, what, tom? Why are you leaving? We're going to miss you. It's Pat Walsh. You're leaving a great legacy behind. We're all going to miss you here at KFPK. I wish you nothing but the best after four decades of great radio. Nothing but the best for you in your future.
Speaker 1:It's not easy either. Doing a decade, being successful enough to do a decade. It's tough. You just walk in there and just start. That came up on my show last night. Someone asked me about that. How difficult is it? He was talking in reference with Tom leaving.
Speaker 1:I think some people get the impression you can just walk on in there and be a talk show host because anyone can talk. Well, as Scott Robinson pointed out last night, it's not that easy. Scott Robinson, I've been training now going on two years to be a talk show host so that he can guest host for me when I need some time off. You have to have a bullpen and there are people who work for a living. You know they work full time off. You have to have a bullpen. And there are people who work for a living. You know they work full time, but they want to dabble in radio. It's a dream and it is not something that happens, that you just get to. Oh, I have a friend in talk radio and now I'm going to be in talk radio. No, no, no, no. It's a lot of training, it's a lot of. It's just a lot. And to do it every day, as Tom has done for over four decades, it's really saying something. And again, no matter what, what business or trade you are in, what job you are in, you do that for 40 years, and particularly when you are basically at the same station. And then you have the longevity. And then, on top of that longevity, you expand by going syndicated, and I congratulate Tom for doing that in the last several years of his career.
Speaker 1:Syndication, by the way, in case you're wondering, that does not necessarily signify the ultimate success, but it's nice. You know, in 2000, I've never really told anyone this. My dream and it was and still is, to become syndicated. Now, if you're thinking well, you just said that maybe that's not the pinnacle of success. Why would you want to be syndicated? Well, it can be, but it is not necessarily the pinnacle of success. So I'll just share this with you as I play another Tom Sullivan liner who is syndicated.
Speaker 1:Tom Sullivan, pat Walsh, wishing you the best in semi-retirement. It is semi-retirement, right, you're going to do a podcast. Thank you, tom, for being an inspiration for me and my radio show over the years. Thanks for being a great friend and a great colleague, and I wish you nothing but the best in your future. I wonder how often he's going to do that podcast. How consistent. That's tough even to do that.
Speaker 1:And then, on top of it, I'm doing a radio show. Listen, I'm not whining about it, uh, no, um, you know, this is what happens when I divert. I was gonna make a point, I was gonna make a point. Then I played another. Well, I was gonna. Okay, I was gonna. Okay. I'll tell you. Here's the point 2020, I was going to become syndicated. You know, kfpk is a legacy of syndicated hosts Rush Limbaugh, tom Sullivan, morton, downey, jr, morton and Rush rest in peace. Who's next on the list? Well, it was going to be me Talking about a case of unfortunate timing. This is 2020.
Speaker 1:Without getting into all of it, I was asked because I had lobbied for this. I'm like, hey, you know I could get into all these reasons. Look, if this company and I'm talking about iHeart, which again is a very different thing than KFPK iHeart if iHeart is, if they're looking for revenue, they're looking for revenue and again, this is my opinion. There are people who apparently know better than I do. But if you're looking to add revenue to the iHeart system, you know, if you're looking to make revenue, don't you want advertising? Right? That's what creates the revenue. What gets the advertising is a successful show that has a long track record, you know, that has a strong following.
Speaker 1:So I would lobby for this and say, look, why don't you use, instead of playing reruns at night, which are just cheap and easy but you're not selling any ads, why not run my show, which is live? You know, if I'm successful in Sacramento, which apparently I have been in this region, and plus, I get calls from a lot of people in different parts of the country, people in Canada, people who've moved away from California and you still listen. So there's a formula. The formula is just being nice to people and being respectful and letting people you know, give their opinions and trying to be funny and trying to be entertaining, whatever you want to call it, but it's just being yourself. Is that essentially the formula and doing things that it seems like people might want to hear on the radio? Why not do that? You guys have the ability, as iheart, to get big guests if I want them, no matter what the story is, no matter if it's music I talk a lot about music you can line those guests up for me and we can make it like the Tonight Show of radio, which no one has ever done, that you have people like George Norrie, who comes on after me, art Bell, who preceded him. They talk about flying saucers and Bigfoot and ghosts and all of these things and more, by the way, and they're successful, but it's syndicated. Why not put before that, in that time slot, someone who has a show that is less divisive, that is more relatable to people, things that people relate to, throw music in the mix. Have a little fun with it. Anyhow, eventually they thought you know, that's a really good idea.
Speaker 1:We had meetings. We had actually Kitty O'Neill, who I work with. For those of you who don't know, I'm sure many of you do. She has the show that precedes mine on kfbk, the afternoon news, with kitty o'neill, and her and I do the handoff and we have a lot of people enjoy that. We both enjoy that, and sometimes that can go on, for before I even get into my show, we get. That thing can go on for six, seven minutes because we get into these conversations.
Speaker 1:Well, during 2020, during this particular time, it might've been 2021, actually I can't exactly remember. It's right in that time, right in there somewhere, and you know obviously there's a lot going on then. But they said you know, we need to get you out at 2.50. So 2.50 after the top of the hour. Get you out at 2.50. So 2.50 after the top of the hour. Why? Which would then, of course, cut back Kitty and myself and our conversation to two minutes and 50 seconds, versus any time we really want, as long as we want. Well, why is that? Well, because the stations need the exact, precise time for all of the radio stations to start the show. At the same time.
Speaker 1:We were going to be in San Diego and Portland. These are the places I remember someone telling me I don't want to say what it was San Diego and Portland and Sacramento and I think maybe in Seattle there was all the West Coast and we were going to take that. We were going to try that, see how successful we could be, and then from there move on. Unfortunately, again, a lot going on during that time, which included pandemic and which included company layoffs and the people who were at that point wanting to make that happen, the syndication, they were part of that big layoff and that just it just happens. Not here to slam my heart. I'm grateful again for the job. So yeah, that's the truth, that's the story. And again, I sure do wish Tom Sullivan, but let me finish a little bit on that.
Speaker 1:So when I say, let me finish a couple of thoughts on that, why is the syndication then not the biggest thing? Why is it not the peak of success, or the yard marker for success, if you will? Because I'm very successful in Sacramento and on my podcast and because of you guys. And when I say I'm successful, I'm not saying you're going gee, look at me, I'm so successful. I'm not trying to say it like that. I'm extremely humble at the same time. But I'm being honest with you. You're not going to be on the radio doing a show for 12 years and, god you know, over 20 before. That is the sports guy. If you're not successful, you know, and and that's a matter of fact, but you know, if you're, so I I measure that as success, the fact that I have such a loyal audience, both on radio and my ever-growing podcast. You, whoever you are, wherever you're listening, you know I'm so grateful. I tell you that all time. I mean that from the bottom of my little heart here. Same thing with my radio show. I can be a goofball man. You know, I'm a kid at heart.
Speaker 1:I don't want to sit here every day and talk about the Mueller report, you know, and impeachment and this trash that we all have to talk about all the time. No, no, syndication. I'm not going to name any names, but I have friends who are syndicated Not Tom Sullivan, I'm not talking about Tom, not Tom Sullivan, I'm not talking about Tom. But once you start to syndicate, then you have other people in the mix. You know what I mean. There are other people who are now going to have a say in, perhaps, what you are talking about or going to be talking about. I don't want that.
Speaker 1:Kfbk and iHeart. Let me talk about whatever I want to talk about. They let me do whatever I want to do. No restrictions other than not being vile. Of course I'm talking. I'm talking about topics. They just it's a sort of a personality driven show. They send me topics if I want them. I, but I but they're just like hey, man, this is just. I'm throwing this out there because, you know, just because we, we love your show and we're just trying to feed that machine, which that machine.
Speaker 1:You know I got to find a lot of stories that are not divisive stories every single day, but they never talk. They never tell me what to talk about. You know what a blessing that is. There is no, there are no radio stations commercial that I am aware of where, if you're in music, let's say, you have a free flow format Try saying that three times fast when you can just get on there, play whatever you want. I'm going to play Sales of Sharon Scorps.
Speaker 1:Boom, I'm going to move that into. You know, I'm going gonna get all creative musically. Shine on you, crazy diamond floyd, do the segway, where you know exactly what to say. That's, that was my dream. You're not gonna find that. Maybe a community radio station, perhaps you're not gonna find a radio show where, for the most part anyhow, I can't speak on everyone's behalf. We're just going to let you talk about whatever you want.
Speaker 1:They do on my show, to their credit, I have to say, like this story here. This is amazing to me. Now. They would never tell me to talk about that. You know, I don't really get into the political stuff that much, into that fray, you know. But here's this whole story out there.
Speaker 1:I kind of I was going to talk about it last night where there's this whole thing in California, where now California is tweaking this trans athlete rules. But this is something that everyone would talk about. If you're a talk show host host, you'd pick that one up. Bam, I'm talking about that. I have things to say about that. I do, but sometimes I feel like everyone's talking about it. So, but this is, I do have something to say about that. We're never going to. All of us are never going to agree or disagree, but so, but this is, I do have something to say about that. We're never going to. All of us are never going to agree or disagree, but we have opinions. So I'm going to give my two cents on this. Move to something else.
Speaker 1:This California story today, tweaking trans athlete rules after the president threatens to halt the federal funding. Now this is very, very confusing. Is anyone else confused by this? God, I'm trying to think of this. Remember, wasn't it the Democratic, was it the Democratic Convention, where the guy who was it that was coming out with those confusing rules? This is very confusing to me. Like I can't remember what it was Like the DNC rules meeting or whatever. Whatever that was when they were trying to explain the transgender and you got to be this and you got to do that. It was funny, it was interesting to listen to because I remember even the guy doing it could not figure out what he was saying. It was the DNC rules. I need to find that. Let me see if I can find that. The point I'm bringing this up is because of this California thing.
Speaker 1:You have these social media threats from President Trump, california's high school sports governing body saying it will allow cisgender female track athletes who lost their qualifying positions to transgender competitors I'm using these terms that they are writing to still be able to compete in an upcoming state championship, the California Interscholastic Federation announcing the change yesterday. This is just hours after Trump posted on social media that he would withhold billions of dollars in federal education funds from the state if officials did not block a transgender female athlete from competing at the state track and field championships in Clovis next weekend. Hello Clovis, my sister lives in beautiful Clovis. The CIF, they say, believes this pilot entry process achieves the participation opportunities that we seek to afford our student-athletes. This is what the group said in a statement. Cif adopting its new policy before the president issued this threat according to Izzy Garden, a spokesperson for the governor's office. Threat according to Izzy Garden, a spokesperson for the governor's office. Right, sure, it's unclear. They say how many athletes are going to be affected by the rule change Trump was discussing. I love when they use targeting. Okay, you want to use targeting, that's fair, whatever. A transgender high school athlete from Riverside County who recently won regional competitions in the long jump and the triple jump.
Speaker 1:The president accusing the athlete of being a quote less than average competition or competitor. Excuse me, as a male, but quote practically unbeatable as a female. And is it that the case? Ask yourself this When's the last time you saw a female who feels more like a male entering male competitions and dominating Doesn't happen that I can recall. This is not fair this is a quote and totally demeaning to women and girls. Please be hereby advised that a large-scale federal funding will be held back, maybe permanently, if the executive order on this subject matter is not allowed or not adhered to. Excuse me, said the president, as he continued referring to the order back in February which rescinds all funds from educational programs that deprive women and girls of fair athletic opportunities. Women and girls of fair athletic opportunities.
Speaker 1:Then, as Gregory said on my show last night, pat talks and says and does things that he doesn't usually do on his radio show. Maybe that's the case. Maybe sometimes it's going to be the case right here, when I tell you and I'm sorry for my language, but I just have to say it on my podcast Democratic State Senator Scott Weiner, who is a dick. How is this guy still doing this of San Francisco lambasting the president's statement, calling the threat illegal and urging California to challenge it in court, if necessarily. Unfortunately, says Dick, this is just another chapter in Donald Trump's war on transgender people. Shut up Warring out on transgender people. You know what this guy's? Just to see this. Why don't do this? I get all angry and bitter. Just shut. You know, listen, man, what it's unfair to is women, he said. Oh, it's outrageous. He needs to let California manage their own sports programs and stop it with these attacks.
Speaker 1:Attacks what do you call it? When a male boxer bashes a woman's face in in a boxing ring? Oh, I'm sorry. A transgender beats a woman in the boxing ring. I want to be politically correct here. I mean, give me a break and see, my blood pressure goes up when I start talking about this stuff. Man, this guy is really a jackass. I'm so sick and tired of this.
Speaker 1:Scott Wiener and the trend is going against you, scotty boy Wiener says the president could care less about girls and women's sports. Really, god? There's other words I want to use right now, but I'm not going to do it. I'm going to refrain. I want to use right now, but I'm not going to do it. I'm going to refrain. But old Dickie boy here, are you kidding me? You truly? Oh my God. What he does care about is attacking trans people and dehumanizing them. No, what he cares about, dick, is the fact that women want to compete, and compete amongst other women. So I'm not going to get into this. You know the story just the way it is Dehumanizing, attacking trans people.
Speaker 1:And then you have Gavin Newsom, back in March remember that for saying he says he thinks it's deeply unfair for transgender athletes to compete in girls' sports events. It appeared to support the Federation's rule. So this should be this rule change. This should be interesting, huh, hmm. So now, what is Gavin going to do? Is he going to be a staunch opponent of transgender athletes competing against women? Is that what he's going to do? After he stoked the controversy, he's got to do something. It's interesting.
Speaker 1:We haven't heard from him yet. Maybe we've heard from him this morning. I haven't. I don't think anyone has. I haven't heard anything about it. I should say Not that he's calling me. That's not what I mean. Anyhow, we'll see what he says, but here's the bottom line for me. Uh, first of all, why are we wasting time with this stuff? Why tell me why we're wasting time with this? To me, there is one easy remedy, and I just don't understand why we're not looking at it. You know why? Because we want to argue. I think not all of you. I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about these people, you know, and I think I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:I'm not sorry. Trump is right here. I'm not a staunch Trump guy zealot. He's right and this is going to come to an end and a lot of people think that that is a good thing. The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind.
Speaker 1:It's have your own transgender championships. Just do that. If you're transgender, like in this case, the. The weird thing is, it's hard to understand. So somehow they're going to give three winners like what three winners like? You'll get the. The winner, the transgender person can win um and then, but the woman in the competition, the women who did not win, they can. They'll be able to move on in the championship round.
Speaker 1:I'm not understanding all of this. And then the transgender will be able to move on in the championship round, but who's a transgender going to be competing against? Like, if there's only one transgender in the competition, who's the transgender competing with? So if you're going to do this, why not? I don't know, have a transgender competition, transgender games. I'm sure that there are businesses who would support that. You know what I mean. There would be sponsors for that. I don't know who they are, but there would be sponsors. You got to leave them out of the women's competition. See, this is why I don't get into this stuff. It just drives me insane. Drives me insane. I'm going to get away from that. I almost didn't bring that up.
Speaker 1:Let's go to some music. I plucked this from my Rare Record 45 collection. Today, 7-inch records I'm always I love to talk about the song. Be honest about the song. I'm going to look at this label. By the way, I've already looked at this record. It is absolutely in mint condition. It's the promo demonstration, not promotion Demonstration, not for sale. No stickers on it, no stamps of any kind on it, no radio station markings white. It's on virgin records. Both sides are stereo, both sides of the same song three, four, dash, oh four, two, two, one of the same song 3-4-0-4-2-2-1.
Speaker 1:Now, before I play this, I was like when I pulled it out I went, oh no, so I am not a fan of this song. Sorry, I'm just letting you know, just not a fan. But I'm going to play it here because I pulled it from my record collection. I so badly wanted to play the guy trying to explain the rules there at the DNC, the rules committee or whatever I should have. I didn't even. Sometimes you don't even think of these things until you're doing the show, otherwise I would have had that ready to go. Doggone it. That's a good thing, that was so funny. Oh, I wish I could find that for you right now, anyhow. So I don't really care for this song, I'm just being completely honest about it.
Speaker 1:Many people love this song, which is by an English band, 1983, released in the United Kingdom. September of 83 became the second of this band in terms of a single to reach the top UK singles chart, after another song that I did not like at all, either one. Sorry, when I play it you're going to go. Oh, I love this song and some others are going to go. Yeah, I'm with you, pat, but it's not the case in every record, but anyhow, this one might be a little more controversial. The record stayed at number one for six weeks, so it was well-liked. Became the UK's biggest selling single of the year 1983, sold 955,000 copies in 1983, certified platinum. To date it is the 38th biggest selling single of all time in the UK.
Speaker 1:This single that I'm holding in my hand, the demonstration of it sold 1.52 million copies probably even more than that by now. Worldwide success went number one in 20 countries, so obviously I'm in the minority on this, that's okay. Spent three weeks at number one in the United States on the Billboard Hot 100. In early 1984, became this group's biggest hit the only US number one single among their many top 10 hits. Matter of fact, this one sold over 5 million copies globally In 2015,. This song I'm holding in my hand was voted by the British public as the nation's ninth favorite 1980s number one song in a poll. The song about and this is according to the front man is about the terrible fear of alienation that people have, the fear of standing up for one thing. It's about trying to suck up to everybody. Basically, if you aren't true, if you don't act like you feel, if you don't act like you feel, then you get karma justice, nature's way of paying you back. I think you know what I'm talking about now. 1983, the Culture Club Karma.
Speaker 2:Chameleon, loving in your eyes all the way. If I listened to your lies, would you say I'm a man without conviction. I'm a man who doesn't know how to sell a contradiction. You come and go. You come and go. You come and go. Come a come a come a come a come a chameleon. You come and go. You come and go. Love will be as if your we're like my dreams Red gold and green. Red gold and green Didn't hear your wicked words every day and you used to be so sweet. I heard you say that my love was an addiction.
Speaker 1:When we played. Our love is strong. When you go, you come forever. You string along. You string along Cashbox saying that with Boy George's smooth lead and the catchy background vocals it has the air of an immediate stateside hit Song, as I said, won the Best British Single at the 84 Brit Awards. Not a big fan, but you know what? That's what makes the world go around, Whatever's making your world go around today. I thank you for spinning it with me right here on the Pats Peeps Podcast. God bless you. See you on the radio.
Speaker 2:I'm a man who doesn't know how to sell a contradiction you come and go. You come and go.
