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Ep. 300 Today's Peep Our Milestone Episode Remembers Sacramento Icon Mick Martin: When a Renaissance Man Takes His Final Bow, Movie Reviewer Ken "Dog" Jackman Joins Me to Remember Mick and to Review "Superman"
When we lose a local legend, the impact ripples through a community in ways both profound and personal. In this milestone 300th episode of Pat's Peeps, I'm joined by film critic extraordinaire Ken Dogg Jackman to celebrate two very different icons – the timeless Superman on the big screen and the irreplaceable Mick Martin, Sacramento's beloved blues musician, film critic, and radio personality who passed away at 79 years old.
Ken kicks things off with an enthusiastic five-star review of the new Superman movie, praising its "refreshingly old-fashioned" approach with bright colors and the classic super suit. What stands out most is David Korniswet's performance as Superman, which Ken declares "the best since Christopher Reeve." The film balances emotional depth with humor while avoiding the excessive CGI that plagues many superhero films. Even Ken's superhero-averse wife loved it – perhaps the highest praise possible!
The heart of our conversation shifts to remembering Mick Martin, whom Ken aptly describes as "one of the great renaissance men of Sacramento." Through rare archival footage from 1976, we're transported back to a young Mick Martin appearing on Bob Wilkins' show, displaying his encyclopedic film knowledge while discussing King Kong. Ken recalls how Mick's movie reviews in the Sacramento Union spoke to "regular people" rather than film academics – making cinema accessible to everyone.
Mick's musical legacy with the Blues Rockers spanned nearly five decades, his harmonica skills legendary among blues aficionados. I share personal memories of Mick's recent performance at the Crest Theater and how he had been giving me harmonica playing tips not long ago. His passing leaves an unfillable void in Sacramento's cultural landscape.
Have you been touched by Mick Martin's music, film reviews, or radio shows over the years? Share your memories and join our community of listeners celebrating both this podcast milestone and the extraordinary legacy of a Sacramento icon who truly "breathed legitimate art, whatever he was doing."
Welcome my friends to the Pat's Peeps podcast. I'm super excited today because today is a milestone episode. At least in my mind it is A milestone. I mean 300? That's not bad right. That's peeps number 300. Thank you so much for being part of our ever-growing audience. It is a Monday, 14th day of July 2025. And as I look out my studio window into the beautiful foothills of Northern California, it is a hot one.
Speaker 2:It's really hot, but I am going to work out and get that going. I'm going to stick to it. I got some stuff I'm going to do outside, some work and things planting and things like that. I don't care, I love the heat. Still have a turn on the air conditioner. But again, I'm very proud to present 300 podcasts on top of my radio show. By the way, my name is Pat Walsh and I host the Pat Walsh Show on KFBK in Sacramento, 93.1 FM, 1530 AM, and all over your streaming platforms. My show is Monday through Friday, 7 to 10 pm and you know, if you tune in on Friday night 8 o'clock, you will hear Ken Dogg Jackman. And I thought you know what. I'm going to bring Ken Dogg Jackman on today because, ken Dogg, I kind of wanted to celebrate this with Ken Dogg. There it is 300 podcasts. Ken Dogg has been on my podcast before Dogg's Movie House. Ken Jackman, ken Dogg Jackman, dogg'smoviehousecom. Check it out for yourself. Ken Dogg, I bring you on for two reasons today. First of all, how are you, my friend?
Speaker 4:I'm doing great. Honored, as ever, to be on your podcast and especially honored to be on your 300th show. That's a milestone. I'm proud to be a part of brother.
Speaker 2:Thank you. You know, as we're listening to the Superman theme, there's a new Superman movie out and it's your boy, john Williams again. You know we talk about Star Wars all the time and the great themes, but here you are with the. Superman theme.
Speaker 4:What a great theme this is right, yeah, one of the all-time greats, wow.
Speaker 2:It is so epic. I don't know that anyone did Superman better than Christopher Reeves. But there he is, man, yeah, wow, very good, very rousing. So the new Superman is out. So that's one of the reasons that I wanted to bring you on today to kind of get your take on the new Superman.
Speaker 2:Again. There's been criticism. I didn't want to pay attention to that today because I beat the dead horse with the Snow White thing, so I'm going to stay away from it because I have not seen this movie. But I know you're a big fan and you know I want to talk about two icons today, if we can. One, of course, is Superman. The other icon is an icon of Sacramento. So, ken Dogg, with that in mind I know because I missed Friday night and I missed your movie review with bc on my show. Bc bruce campbell filled in for me friday night. You were in there and unfortunately I tried to listen to the um, to your review, but I kind of missed it. Uh, got sidetracked there. But tell us what I know you saw, what did you? What were your thoughts of the new superman?
Speaker 4:okay, you know the. The nutshell is it's probably one of the best, if if not the best, movies I've seen all year. It's right up there with Sinners as a five out of five for me. I think one of the things about it is how refreshingly old fashioned it is. They go with the bright colors. The super suit isn't some streamlined thing out of you know, out of the you know 90s comic books. It's a. It's more of a trunks on the outside, big S on the Cape, big S on the chest, and it plays like that. It plays like that. And so, basically, the plot is, you know, without getting into details, it's Superman versus Lex. Lex is jealous of Superman, wants to ostracize him from the world and then kill him. Okay, so so who is?
Speaker 2:because I don't mean to interrupt, because I'm not familiar with this. Who is this Lex Luthor? Is he the villain? He's the villain, right or not? Yeah, lex Luthor is yeah.
Speaker 4:no. Lex Luthor is the arch villain from the comics. He's been played by Gene Hackman, oh yeah right Jesse.
Speaker 4:Eisenberg. Yeah, right, right. He's the mad genius who wants power or real estate, depending on what movie you're in. And here he is a multi-billionaire tech genius who is using tech and online conspiracy theories and all this other stuff to try and discredit Superman and eventually kill him. So that's, those are the mechanics of the plot. That's the story. It's fairly cut and dry. It's the details that matter. Okay, there's a lot going on, but director, writer James Gunn, master conductor, you know, when I talk about your show and I say you know, you're the conductor and I'm just you know, somewhere in the woodwind section you've got a lot of you have a, you have a lot of different elements and he has tons of elements. He has different superheroes, a green lantern, a hot girl, a guy named Mr Terrific who should be silly but works really well.
Speaker 2:Mr Terrific, I love that.
Speaker 4:Mr Terrific. Yes, yeah, all right, this movie. First of all, it's not a three or four hour epic, it's a little over two hours and it moves, but it has these beats of emotion. There's a scene with his foster parents bring the, bring the, you know, bring the hankies. It's got rousing moments. It's got humor. It's got humor. It's got the actors are all fantastic it. It makes you feel, it makes you. You know what I mean. That's the. That's the best barometer of any movie. When you're not sitting there going. Well, it's okay. The special effects are fine. No, the best way to do it is if it catches you, grabs you by the shirt. Collars says this is going to be a fun, entertaining, emotional movie. David Korniswet, the guy who plays Superman, is the best Superman since Christopher Reeve.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 4:He is so good.
Speaker 2:How many, how many Supermans have been out since Christopher Reeves played Superman?
Speaker 4:Oh, good Lord, let's see, let's see. You've got Henry Cavill, you have Brandon Ralph, you have on the small screen Tom Welling and Dean Cain, amongst others. Yeah, so there have been a few. There have been a few, but Christopher Reeve has always been the benchmark, right, you will believe a man can fly. Well, this guy I won't say he's better, but he's close, as good as anything I've ever seen. I mean, you will feel like you're watching an old school movie. Even you, superhero movies, not your thing. My wife hates superhero movies. She loved this. She wants to see it again. That, to me, tells you all you want to know. To me, it's a five out of five. I love these types of movies and I love them when they're done well, especially with an audience who wants to see it. I can't recommend it enough.
Speaker 4:I've read the criticisms and they're full of crap. Sorry, they are. They are absolutely full of crap. You know, I mean it's like I don't know what you're thinking of. Oh, it's so chaotic. No, it's not. And refreshingly it is. Yeah, as far as the well. They say, oh, there's too much CG, there's too much action scenes. I know, I know, I know, when an action scene has too much CG, this ain't it.
Speaker 4:Everything is there are beats. Yes, you have to use some CG and some special effects. It's Superman, okay, you know you don't want him on wires, you know. So That'd be kind of cool though, yes, there's those.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, I guess so for the old school, but I wish they would do a movie like that again where you actually see blunders like that, little things like that'd be so fun, just, you know just to have yeah kind of a rocky, kind of a rocky horror picture.
Speaker 4:Yeah, rocky horror picture.
Speaker 2:Show of superhero movies I've never seen that, so I don't know what that means, what that can. I don't even there's a movie.
Speaker 3:I've never seen that so I don't know what that means. There's a movie.
Speaker 4:I've never seen.
Speaker 2:No, I don't know, but go ahead.
Speaker 4:Wow, that's surprising. But yeah, so I said that's surprising that you've never seen the Rocky Horror Picture Show.
Speaker 2:There's men walking around in dainty panties. It's not that surprising, right.
Speaker 4:Well, context, if you put it that way. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2:That's why I haven't gone, and I don't mean that in a weird way, Like I don't want anyone to go. Oh pattern, oh see, now we're getting way off track. That's what I mean. Never mind, I was 18 years old. I walked into the Lion's Restaurant. The entire place shut down because there were men in garter belts and panties. I didn't know what's going on in makeup. That's all I'm leaving it at.
Speaker 4:I just have never seen it. So, whatever, leave me alone. Gotcha, I understand Alright, yeah, so anyway, this it's not chaotic. James Gunn knows what he's doing. You know it's everything builds. The finale, of course, is going to be action heavy. It's a Superman movie, but you never lose track of what's going on and you never lose track of the characters. You never lose track of the story. You're always feeling something. It's not just splashed up there for you to model and look at. It is a movie that really catches you and makes you. That's the reason why I love it so much. Like I said, five out of five People need this. It's good for all ages. Go see this film If you like good, old-fashioned, yet very well done entertainment.
Speaker 2:There you go, dogsmoviehousecom. So that is, you know a world iconic. Everyone knows Superman Wherever you go around the world.
Speaker 1:They know Superman In our area and amongst the blues world people know Mick Martin.
Speaker 2:That is Mick Martin. Mick Martin and I became friends over the years. Mick Martin was a radio guy. I said was, yes, he passed away over the weekend. I got so many messages. Mick and I became friends. He was a guest on my show numerous times. It wasn't that long ago Mick was telling me I was asking him advice how to play my new harmonic is it Darling with a Y? I bought for my birthday a couple of years ago? I was asking his advice because he's one of the best. There is Ken Doug, and I don't know if you'd heard that Mick had passed away. I know you had a chance to meet Mick Martin on my show before He'd come in. We'd talk music. He'd have maybe a big party or a bash coming up and I would always want to promote that. But here's a little bit of Mick and the Blues Rockers.
Speaker 4:You met him a couple times on the show, if I'm not mistaken, right, ken Doe, yeah, he was kind of a hero of mine from a different reason at first, because when I was a kid, forming my opinion on the movies and remember we had two papers. We had the Sacramento Union and the Sacramento Bee. That's right. And the Union is the one my folks got for a long time and Mick Martin was the movie critic and his movie reviews always seemed the union is the one my folks got for a long time and Mick Martin was the movie critic and his movie reviews always seem to be like for the people they, they, they were, they were kind of like when I remember later on with Roger Ebert who I vibed with, but but Mick Martin would review movies for regular people and for the life of me I can't remember the one with the, the, the critic at the time for the B to Joe, somebody, uh, he used to drive me nuts because we always do the, he'd always, he'd always do, he'd always do the. Well, you know, in 1914, they did this and it's just repeating itself after 70 years. It's like, oh for the love of God, man, you know, and you, you do, uh, you do, uh.
Speaker 4:Nick Martin, you read his stuff and he's like, yeah, man, it's cool, it's a good movie, it works, and if you have a family, you want to go see this, or it's a very scary movie. Uh, you know, little ones do not? You know that kind of thing. He was always very, he was a good, he was a good critic, he knew his stuff, but he always kept it in a way that was relatable to his reading audience, and that's where I got a lot. That's why I was inspired to do this.
Speaker 4:The way I do it is you never hear me. Yeah, I can rattle off movies, but I always tell you until the audience hey, you know, if you haven't seen this stuff before, go see it, you know. Hey, you know, if you haven't seen this stuff before, go see it, you know. And then I'll recommend something that's better. You know that it might have been inspired by, but I won't slam it because it did something somebody else did 30 years ago, cause moviegoers, moviegoers don't care about that Right.
Speaker 4:So, yeah, I had a chance and I got a chance to meet him. It wasn't long conversations, cause I was working at a grocery store on Fulton and Marconi and but he would shop there and after a while he would come through my line quite a bit and you know, uh, we'd gab as long as we could about what's going on with movies and how he's made. He told me about his music and stuff like that. It was long after the union had shuttered, but it was just. It was a thrill to meet him because he was a larger than life personality but so very accessible and so very nice.
Speaker 2:And you met him on my show, of course, like I said, maybe one or two occasions, I think.
Speaker 4:Yeah, really twice for sure. Yeah, my biggest memory of him, of course, is when he brought out the Kung Fu grip. Of all harmonicas there was like seven of them in this case and they were all lovingly preserved, of different sizes. It's like, well, we've got the little one here and then we've got the big one at the end. They weren't obviously categorized that way, but my mind was going wow, that set of harmonicas right there, yeah.
Speaker 2:Somebody knows his business. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, he definitely. He really was a good harp player, that is for sure. Like I say, he was giving me tips on how to play the harmonica. Just not that long ago we were talking, I was trying to get him on my show. Here he is Mick Martin.
Speaker 1:You better hold on baby, think about the things you do. You better hold on baby. Hold on baby, think about the things you do. You better hold on baby, think about the things you do. You might end up getting someone mad at you.
Speaker 2:You know, it's interesting because here he is a great musician and revered in the blues community, Great blues musician, but he was also, like you say, a movie reviewer, a movie critic, and he was a radio DJ too. So he was, you know, he was also a good radio guy. He was on KZAP, Capital Public Radio, Not to mention his big blues band, and for over 40, almost 50 years did this.
Speaker 2:You might end up getting someone mad at you. I thought, ken Dogg, it might be kind of fun. Here he is. Mick would want me to play this music. By the way, I saw his big blues party it wasn't that long ago there at the Crest Theater. It was outstanding, Ken, ken Dogg. I found a long-lost video, ken Dogg, that I thought we'd listen to a little bit of this, so let's mix it all together. Mick Martin, this is going back to 1976.
Speaker 2:If anyone remembers Bob Wilkins, bob Wilkins was a guy who was on Channel 40, ktxl used to sit back in a recliner and he would smoke a big cigar and he had those horn-rimmed black glasses and he'd wear a suit and his show was sponsored by I can't remember what cigar business in town. He might tell us in here and he would play these horror movies or these you like plan nine from outer space, or kong in this instance, or santa claus, um meets the martians, or whatever that movie is. Cat dog he didn't play these to be fascinated the the, the creature from the black lagoon, and he would, you know, come back during the break and he would talk. So we have mick martin, him to break and he would talk. So we have mick martin, uh, joining bob wilkins's 1976. And this is when. Um, this is from the center for sacramento history, their film and video archives mick martin seen with his first man, smith martin and shaw it's about 1975, really at the Bill Ray Studios.
Speaker 3:And this is here they are right here Come out of Sacramento area in the past few years Now, a group called Smith, Martin and Shaw is trying for the charts. After playing to sell out crowds in Northern California for months now, they're about ready to release their own single called On the Road. The group was rehearsing at the Bill Race Studios recently and here's an example of their style On my way to San Anselmo, a midnight volunteer Tomorrow night at San Francisco, 30 miles from here. I hope to meet a fallen.
Speaker 2:So again, ken Dogg. This is 1976, and at the Bill Ray Studios. And here's Mick, and we'll hear a little bit from Mick in this as well. A little harmonic, and then he talks.
Speaker 6:The band, as it is in concept now, has been together for about two years. We've known Jim for that long and the only new member that we've had is Donna Proctor, and she's been with us about six or seven months and it's just, it's been so good. I mean, things have been happening to us as if we're part of a mainstream type of progress that's really just kind of carrying us along. The music's good, we're happy with each other, we're enjoying the whole experience and things just seem to happen in a very positive fashion for us.
Speaker 2:It's amazing to see how young he is right there. I know we can all say that about ourselves. Ken Dogg Look how young I was there. Of course you look the same as when I first knew you, when I first met you.
Speaker 4:Oh, thank you. Yes, the formaldehyde is working.
Speaker 2:We're talking with Ken Dogg. It is Pat's Peeps number 300. Talking about Mick Martin here, who just passed away, here's a little bit more from Mick. I want to let him talk for a second about his career. Like I say, here you go. Oh, now here is. This is the opening, ken Dogg, if anyone remembers, to the Bob Wilkins show 1976. So this is where Mick joins him and they start talking movies, ken Dogg, and I'll let you comment on this. Here we go.
Speaker 7:Let's take a little movie test here for just a second.
Speaker 2:What movie have you seen? If you ask me who that was blindfolded, I could tell you within two seconds who that voice was. Ken Doug, that's Bob Wilkins. Yeah, that was part of my childhood on the weekends, more than any other film what pops to your mind.
Speaker 7:And if that movie were playing, let's say, on television tomorrow night or playing in a local theater, you'd go see it again and it wouldn't bother you at all, even though you've seen it maybe a dozen times.
Speaker 2:What movie would that be for you?
Speaker 4:Oh man, so many. You know obviously the Star Wars, probably me first, Simply because of the kid in me. Yeah, I know, but there are others. Just two, but I think that your answer was this one Probably me first.
Speaker 7:Simply because of the kid in me. Yeah, I know, but there are others, I know.
Speaker 6:Two but I think that your answer was this one.
Speaker 2:I love the sound of the old film. You know the video like that. I just love the intros like this. Ken Dogg, we're millionaires boys, oh yeah, I can hear I can hear all of you.
Speaker 1:In a few months we'll be up in lights on Broadway. Come be a wonder of the world that legendary Max Steiner score.
Speaker 2:Can you imagine when that movie first came out? I don't know what year that was when that came out, but now we're so used to In 33, okay, same year my dad was born. So these days we're used to the CGI and all that you were talking about, and special effects are incredible. But back in 1933, that must have freaked people out, seeing Kong like this.
Speaker 4:Right, right, wild weird wonderful.
Speaker 2:That was like a stop action type of a thing, right? Is that right?
Speaker 4:Yeah, classic stop motion, stop motion. Yeah, right, right, right.
Speaker 2:So here is Mick Martin joining Bob Wilkins to discuss the movie Ken Dogg, and we'll take a listen and we'll comment along with him. Here we go.
Speaker 7:I get excited every time I see that trailer. Mick Martin is with us. A film fan, was I right?
Speaker 2:Mick, we're in a dark brick red leisure suit. You're looking good, Mick. I love that guy. He is so iconic here.
Speaker 7:How many times have you seen the original King Kong?
Speaker 6:Oh, at least in the 20, 25 times at least.
Speaker 7:Yeah, but you're really into films. Probably the average guy in the street has seen it A dozen, yeah, I'd say a dozen.
Speaker 6:It's quite common. It's an event when it's on TV.
Speaker 7:What about? Let's talk about the old Kong and the new Kong, and just there's so many books out now and, of course, the movie opens up next week. What made the old Kong a great movie?
Speaker 6:Well, for one thing, it was the first time that that kind of thing had been done.
Speaker 2:That's what I was talking about. That was my point. That must have been amazing. It's the first time that people had seen anything like that, you know, and it's interesting to me, because anyone that listens to my show knows that Ken Dogg is like they'll say, and including me. They'll say you know, ken Dogg, he's like a movie savant, like encyclopedia. And people will say about me, man, he's like a music savant, like an enopedia, whereas Mick Martin is both music and movies. I don't know anything about movies. It's like we have a child in reverse Right.
Speaker 2:Let's see what he says about Kong.
Speaker 4:Go ahead. No, no, I was going to say it's interesting that this is coming up when the 1976 version of the Dino De Laurentiis King Kong is getting ready to release. So that's an interesting little time capsule right there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and that's a. That was the one with Jessica Lange.
Speaker 4:Jessica Lange, jeff Bridges, charles Gruden yeah, Okay, all right.
Speaker 6:A giant monster on the screen, looking as if it was 80 feet tall.
Speaker 2:That's exactly what I was talking about. I can't believe. You just said that. Thank you, Mick.
Speaker 6:And I just think it's a fast-paced action film that really holds your attention.
Speaker 7:It came out in the 30s. It must have really been unbelievable for somebody to go into a theater and see something like that Right.
Speaker 6:It was one of those instances where people were passing out in the aisles, oh my.
Speaker 2:God, I can't believe that's what they're talking about. That was my first thought about that.
Speaker 7:The uh, lewis O'Brien, of course, did the animation Mm-hmm, and it was directed by Ernest Shodsack and Melville Cooper, I think.
Speaker 2:Jesus, that's just like you. You name everyone who directed it, anyone who did anything in the movie. It's very impressive.
Speaker 7:I'll tell you this book here. Oh yeah, we'll show some of these because you might want to catch some of these, because very unusual stuff. I think the two guys you mentioned who created kong were in the pilot seats in the final scenes that they actually killed kong. Remember the planes, the airplanes in the sky? That was one little piece of trivia that was pointed out. Here's a paperback book that is out on the new Kong and here's one that has an interesting title, the Girl in the Hairy Paw, and I can't hold it anymore.
Speaker 2:The Girl in the Hairy Paw, Ken Doug.
Speaker 4:Yes, yes, yes. I think that was a movie of a different vintage that I wasn't allowed to see until I was 18. But hey, it never did Either that or it was a medical film from the Vietnam War that I didn't hear Books.
Speaker 6:You should say that the making of Pink Pong is the best. If someone was going to go out and buy the book on the film, that would be the best.
Speaker 2:Can you get me Girl with the Hairy Paw Dad Mom.
Speaker 7:An American film that's just come out. Talking to the director.
Speaker 2:So, anyhow, these are all the books at Kong. Let's see what Mick has to say here and a chest Came to the chest, but that was it.
Speaker 6:Chest came to the chest, but that was it. That was all. And this one's an 85 foot mechanical monster that has, I think, 16 motions. It can make with its hands and something like 20 different expressions, and they had a huge crowd in new york, as this monster was actually walking through the streets of new york and people were watching it okay?
Speaker 7:I I think we let's take some scenes here, some stills. We'll have a film clip for you next week and you'll see a close-up of the monster who looks very realistic. He's how tall, 85 feet tall, 85.
Speaker 2:So, anyhow, they're talking about King Kong. Let's see. Oh no, I don't know who the original who was the? Original actress Fay.
Speaker 4:Wray.
Speaker 2:Fay Wray, that's right. They even picked her on the Empire.
Speaker 7:State Building to bring back Kong to where he rightfully belongs.
Speaker 2:I knew I could ask you that, ken dog. I knew that.
Speaker 7:Jessica Lange. Jessica Lange Interesting thing they auditioned people from all over the world for this part and they picked her. She's a New York model. It'll be her first film role.
Speaker 2:I had such a crush on her.
Speaker 6:What an ungoverable American dream. I wonder who they named her after. They called her Dwan in the movie and gave her no first name. So that's something for film buffs to ponder why they did that.
Speaker 2:Are you pondering that, Ken Dogg?
Speaker 4:Well, when we first meet her, she's showing you an absolutely wonderful backside. So no, I didn't care about her name when I saw it. I'll call you all of Charlie's Angels. Let's just say she was not miscast as a model. She definitely filled those requirements nicely, oh boy she was.
Speaker 2:She is a beautiful lady. Good question Biggest crush on her?
Speaker 7:Another thing, when Kong has received so much publicity in New York. When they asked for the 5,000 people, of course 30,000 showed up, but they also ran a like a poster in the New York Times and just put a little line at the bottom. You could hardly read it. If you would like a duplicate of this poster, please write to so-and-so. 25,000 people wrote it. They were inundated. Yes, let's look at a poster. This is from your collection.
Speaker 2:So we're talking Ken Dogg is with me here on Pat's Peeps, number 300. You know, what we're doing here is we're just talking about Mick Martin. Mick Martin passed away, 79 years old. I mean 79 years old, this is 1976 is what I meant to say. But he was an icon of Sacramento and just such a good guy, ken Dogg, and I'm very sad about this. I'm really going to miss Mick Martin.
Speaker 3:For his music music his radio show.
Speaker 2:You know the fact that you could count on. He would have like a you know big blues bash or something like that, and I'm just very sad about this you know who he was.
Speaker 4:He was one of the great renaissance men of Sacramento. He was one of the renaissance men. He breathed legitimate art, whatever he was doing. You know, it's probably most profoundly expressed in his music, which is just balls to the wall. Good, I can listen to that for hours and I'm not the greatest music man, but I was listening to the snatches of the show you're playing with the harmonica and everything else that he's doing and is singing and it's like, man, I could just groove to this for hours. You know, it's just this energy that he had in everything he did. You know, it's just this energy that he had in everything he did. You know, from the radio, from the print, from the television, from the music he was.
Speaker 4:He was a what do they call that in a baseball? A five tool player. The guy could do it all and did it all with style and passion. And I don't think you'll see his like, especially locally, anytime soon. And that's that's a a shame, but we have so many memories and it's just wonderful yeah, yeah, like I said, I was inundated with messages, uh, over the weekend.
Speaker 2:I want to tell everyone thank you for letting me know. It's because people knew that. Um, you know that I knew him and he was a great guest on the show and um, so a little bit more with mick and then I'll play some of his music here as well kind of giving away all this stuff.
Speaker 7:I know you're going to be out there and that's next friday right at the madison square for theater. That's on madison they still have that place.
Speaker 2:The mad I knew you would react to that.
Speaker 4:It's been gone for a long time. Yeah, the Madison Ford Theater, madison Ford Theaters. When I came around, it was a second run theater, so what would happen was that the big movies would come there after their initial theatrical runs and they were cheap so you could get in for like three or four bucks and still see the same great movie. You just had to wait a little while, and I remember that I saw the 1988 version of the blob there. I remember that. Yeah, yeah, that's great. Yeah, that brings back a lot of memories. Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 2:Isn't that great. I love some of the references, like that Manzanita.
Speaker 7:Right, and at seven o'clock and 8 o'clock.
Speaker 2:That was at Madison and Manzanita. He said Is that what he said? Yep.
Speaker 7:It'll be two different time starts because Kong is so big. It'll be in two theaters. We will be giving away King Kong candy bars.
Speaker 2:I'll be drawing for him because we can't. King Kong candy bars. Ha yeah, wow, madison and Manzanita. The Madison Fort Theater.
Speaker 7:We expect a huge crowd and we'll draw for this stuff, we'll be doing it. We'll have pictures, candy bars, that huge King Kong cutout statue that you'll see in the lobby In fact, it's there right now, isn't it? Yes, it is Okay. We will also have pictures to give away and I will also do the drawing for our King Kong statuette that we've been showing the last few weeks. We will draw one of the winning postcards at the Madison Square Four Theater next Friday.
Speaker 2:That's opening night all over the world Madison Square Four Theater. We don't.
Speaker 7:That's another thing. Movies normally open up in a regional area, or I think Jaws had one of the biggest openings.
Speaker 2:There you go. Ken Dogg Jaws had one of the biggest openings. Oh my gosh, that's believable.
Speaker 7:This Kong thing will open up, they tell me, in 2,500 theaters all over the world. The same night.
Speaker 2:How does that compare to today?
Speaker 4:world the same night. How does that compare to today? Uh well, um, you know, it's kind of like adjusted for inflation. That's huge back in 75, oh yeah, okay, or 76, but now, like, for example, you know, the latest jurassic world opened in 4300 theaters. Now there are more theaters, right, there are more theaters now, but yeah, so, yeah, but that so. So it's not quite as impressive, but for the day that's huge yeah, that really is.
Speaker 2:Yep, oh yeah it should.
Speaker 7:If the movie has anything going for it at all, it should, should be one of the biggest grocers.
Speaker 6:Well, I think the amount of interest on this film is is so immense that there's no doubt there's going to be I believe it's going to be a success and that it's going to make back its money the only other current film Christmas film that I can think of.
Speaker 2:Uh-oh. What's he going to be Christmas film that he can think of? 1976. 1976. Doesn't mean it's a Christmas film, it just came out at Christmas. He's so smooth in front of the camera too.
Speaker 6:The Sherlock Holmes movie the 7%. Solution. Sherlock compete with it.
Speaker 2:He's so smooth in front of the camera too. New sherlock holmes movie the seven percent solution yeah.
Speaker 4:Sherlock holmes movie the seven percent solution, yeah, the seven percent solution, so you can tell the stuff that was coming out back then. You know nowadays, blockbuster this, blockbuster, that summer movie season, but the type of movies, especially in the 70s big spectacles like king kong and of course jaws before that were rare, and so they're talking about Kong going up against a Sherlock Holmes film which you would never think of as an even battle, but back then it was pretty well-weighted. The same Interesting bit of time history there in terms of how movies have changed over the years.
Speaker 7:We'll be showing film clips of that in the near future and I had a chance to talk to Nicole Williamson, who plays Holmes, and he has some very interesting comments for you Sherlock Holmes fans.
Speaker 2:So are you saying that the uh, that, that it would have been no contest that, um, king Kong would have, that it would have been far superior, far more popular than Sherlock Holmes? Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 4:In today's day and age? Yes, then not so much. Uh, you know it was, it's. It's a toss up back then. Nicole Simpson is a well-regarded actor. Um, sherlock Holmes was a popular property. Uh, still, you know Christopher Lee, peter Cushing those guys played versions of him. You know it's, it's one of those ones that had staying power and even though it seems like a nifty little drama, you know the big tentpole stuff where you know monsters galore and all that other stuff, it hadn't been ushered in yet. Not quite. Okay, jaws was an exception rather than the rule. Okay, okay. So it would have been interesting to see what the actual box office stats were, because I don't remember off the top of my head. I'll probably look that up and see how much they did against each other.
Speaker 2:Here's more, with Bob and Mick and some music coming up Channel 40. God, I remember this. I would have been watching it at this age. With me is Mick Martin.
Speaker 7:I probably watched this.
Speaker 2:Again, like they just said, a movie reviewer for the Sacramento Union Sitting on set smoking a cigarette. That's awesome, smoking a cigarette.
Speaker 6:The idea for that kind of a combination. Rolling Stone said it was interesting. I've got to see it for myself before.
Speaker 2:I don't even know if that's a cigarette. We're going to talk about Sherlock Holmes tonight. Is it a cigarette or a pipe or something?
Speaker 7:Maybe it's a cigar we want to get your feelings on the new movie 7% Solution, but I want to show you an interview I did with Nicole Williamson, who plays Horne, all right, so let's get to some music here, ken Dogg.
Speaker 2:Let's get to some music from Mick here, let's see, because he's got a bunch more to talk about there, let's see.
Speaker 6:Well, there are people who write letters to Sherlock Holmes to 221 Baker Street and they finally I think it was about four years ago set up an actual 221 Baker Street where people could go, and I think there's even a little museum there now. Well, baker.
Speaker 7:Street where people could go, and I think there's even a little museum there. Now. Well, who was the Holmes character? Was he taken from someone?
Speaker 6:Well, originally what he was was one of Conan Doyle's teachers. He was an instructor that fascinated Doyle as a youth, because he never Going to miss you, mcmartin.
Speaker 2:Going to miss him, ken Doug? Yeah, definitely. Now, this is a telethon from 1976. Tv telethon. They're on TV. Rest in peace. Mick Martin, Thanks for being a good friend. Man, my friend, I'm gonna miss you so much.
Speaker 4:Ken Doug, thank you for joining me today on my 300th Pat's Peaks podcast yeah, like I said, I'm honored, I appreciate it and I'm going to miss Mick too yeah, alright, we'll talk about him on the show tonight, ken Dog.
Speaker 2:Thank you, buddy, we'll see you on the radio.
Speaker 5:Thank you, brother yep, we'll see you on the radio. Thank you, brother. Yep, I'm out.
