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Ep. 311 Today's Peep Is On The Move: Rockin' Down Memory Lane, The Band is Back Together, What Makes a Band Tick, Musings from a Morning Walk, Still Waiting on my Real ID & Remembering Junkyard Frontman David Roach
Ever have one of those moments when you reconnect with a passion you'd forgotten? That's exactly what this episode captures as I venture out for my first recorded walk in months, combining exercise with podcasting on a beautiful August morning in California.
The rhythmic sound of footsteps becomes the backdrop for reflections on how easily "life gets in the way" of our best intentions. Despite my New Year's resolution to maintain regular aerobic activity, I've let that particular commitment slide while keeping up with other exercises. There's something powerful about finally lacing up those shoes again and feeling your heart pump as you move through the neighborhood.
Meanwhile, I've rekindled another dormant passion by reuniting with bandmates from around 2012. Our recent Saturday night rehearsal was electric, especially with my brother Steve joining on percussion. We're diving into classic album rock – UFO, Aerosmith, Stone Temple Pilots, Nazareth – creating that wall of sound that gives me such a charge as the vocalist. I take you through our setlist and share what makes performing with a live band so exhilarating after all these years.
The episode also explores the fascinating personality archetypes within rock bands: the high-energy drummer, the steady bassist, the spotlight-seeking lead guitarist, and the charismatic vocalist connecting with the audience. How accurate are these stereotypes? Do they match your experience?
Between waiting three months for my driver's license renewal and paying tribute to recently departed rocker David Roach of Junkyard, this episode weaves together the threads of everyday frustrations and enduring passions that make up a life well-lived.
Have you reconnected with something that once brought you joy? What passion might be waiting for you to make space for it again? Take a walk with me and let's explore these questions together.
Welcome my friends to the Pats Peeps podcast number 311,. My friends, so happy you decided to come back and check out yet another episode. Another peep Greatly appreciate it. I'll continue to tell you that. I'll always tell you that you spend any part of the day listening to my podcast, thank you, or my radio show. By the way, I am the host of the Pats Peeps podcast and the appropriately named Pat Wall Show on radio KFPK 1530 AM, 93.1 FM, and streaming everywhere on your free iHeart app.
Speaker 1:Looking out my studio window today. Friends, today's a Tuesday. It's the fifth day of August 2025. I did something today. I haven't done for a while. More on that. Today's a Tuesday, it's the fifth day of August 2025. I did something today. I haven't done for a while. More on that in just a moment, but it's warm. Today I decided I hadn't done this in a while. But I decided, you know what, because I'm so busy in my life, I need to get out and I need to have a walk. And I, again, I haven't done a podcast from the road in a while, but I did today. You know, as they say, two birds, one stone. All right here on Pat's Peeps 311,. As I said, now I am out walking.
Speaker 1:You know it has been remarkable the summer. Remarkable that, uh, it has just been so mild. What a special year a year this has been. We've been so blessed in california. I know I talk about it all the time, but I've lived in california for a majority of my life, with the exception of I don't know what four years in oregon, where it seemed to rain all the time and it's just absolutely gorgeous. I don't know what the temperature is, but it can't be more than maybe the upper 80s. Boy, california is such a wonderful place to live. I mean it's just too bad that the people that are elected in office in this state just try to ruin it, because this is a very special state. You know it's been a long time since I've been out here walking and I know I started the year by saying listen, we all need to keep to our New Year's resolutions.
Speaker 1:One of my New Year's resolutions was to get out here and do aerobics more often. I can remember vividly saying that on one of my earlier podcasts. You know, and as we say all the time, and it's no excuse, but life gets in the way, but the fact is that's a lame excuse in a way, but the fact is that's a lame excuse. I have been doing other things to the best of my ability to stay in shape, such as working out a little bit of weights, push-ups, sit-ups, things like that. It always feels so good when you do it, it's wonderful. It's one of those things, you know, exercise to me. I don't know about you, I guess it's my pattern of the way it seems to go.
Speaker 1:But okay, I'm getting ready to go into the train truss. Oh, a nice T-Bird Powder Blue T-Bird. It's one of those newer ones, like from the watch say newer, what years do those come out? Like the 80s, maybe the 90s, remember those newer t-birds came out. So I'm going through the train trestle right now and, uh, so yeah, I, it's not like I haven't been working out, it's just that I have been neglecting the aerobics aspect of it.
Speaker 1:So, quite frankly, I'm nervous to be out here Because I don't know how I'm going to do. It's a little scary, man. You've got to keep the aerobics up. You've got to get that heart pumping. Got to keep the aerobics up, you got to get that heart pumping. You know, and I quite frankly think about all the people, all the friends and family members I've lost already and here I am lucky enough to enjoy the day you know to be really void of any kind of terrible injuries or anything. My knees are good. My hips I feel fantastic. I just know I've got to get the heart pumping. That's what I'm out here doing. We'll see how it goes. I'm going to stop intermittently here, just kind of look around, if anything. Just give myself a little bit of a breather as I'm trying to talk.
Speaker 1:I shied away from doing the podcasts for a minute there when I was doing this before. Not so much shied away, I had someone call my show and they said man, I love your podcast and I thought that is so nice. Now people call my show all the time. Like last night Greg called my show and he said he listened to like I don't know hi, greg, if you're out there listening right now, but you guys mean a whole lot to me. I think he said he listened to like you know, binge listened to 306, 307, 308, something like that Made comments about Black Rifle at my interview there. Oh, here comes the T-Bird again. They must have dropped someone off. But I remember, because I listen to you guys, I pay attention, those of you who have given me any feedback which is always, by the way, positive, never negative. I always take that and I listen to you. And someone said you know I love your podcast.
Speaker 1:I like a little bit better when you're not there doing the walk, because you know you get a little bit out of breath and you're trying to talk. I know, I know, but you know what that whole life gets in the way type of thing. You know it's. Sometimes you just have to fit everything into a day and this is one way I can do. It is by getting my workout in is by doing my podcast at the same time today. So one of the things I did I got to tell you is Saturday night.
Speaker 1:Now this has been going on, I don't know, maybe well, let's see my son passed away in March June. I mean God, I can't even believe. It's been like seven months since we've been doing this, but back together with a band I was with several years ago. You know, I think this is I mean several years, I think it's probably going back to 2012 or something like that, and we were getting pretty tight. You know a rock band, we rock man. You know a rock band, we rock, man, we play a lot of love ballads, and so then I was in another band. I was in another band, two or three bands, and you know the last one I was in it happened during a pandemic. And so, hi there, everyone driving by this morning, everyone waves. I love that.
Speaker 1:But during a pandemic, when a lot of and you can understand this a lot of the wives, the mother-husbands, you know, playing in the band and practicing, because back then there was social distancing and the COVID and all that. So I got a call or a text one day from a former bandmate, going back to a different band and not the one that broke up with COVID, but prior to that. So, hey, you know, we're hanging out, jamming Boy, we'd sure love to have you if you could come and maybe hang with us, maybe sing some songs or what have you. So I went down there one night on a Saturday night, down to Sacramento, and I got to tell you we had a great session. The only criticism I was asked is that there was too much jamming going on in between songs.
Speaker 1:But I think at that point, first time out, we were just kind of finding our way, and the musicians in the band. By the way, I'm the singer, not the musician, which is I guess that's still a musician right, I'm the vocalist. You know, we didn't really have a set list put together and now we do. They asked me a couple of practices to go. Hey, pat, here's what we Because I'm kind of humble and I don't try to oppose myself or impose my will on anyone except my own show, that is, is that's got to be my way. But let's say hey, we, uh, would love for you. I'm gonna stop over here for a second rest in the shade because it's get a little warm, even though it's nice out walking uphill. Let me feel how my heart and everything feels. I'm doing the Nike app right now and it tells you pausing workout, restoring workout. Anyhow, that's a pretty nice app, resuming workout she should say Pausing workout. If you even move slightly, it'll do that.
Speaker 1:So, as things progressed, as soon as they asked me or indicated to me that they thought it would be a good idea for me to sort of lead the band in terms of picking music, getting a set list together and all that stuff, that's when, as they say, they took the bull by the horns. I took that as an opportunity because I as the singer and we as a band, we need to have that structure. You know, we can't just I'm not just going to stand there and let them freeform jam for a half hour while I'm standing in the background, not singing, not knowing what song we're going to stand there and let them free-form jam for a half hour while I'm standing in the background, not singing, not knowing what song we're going to do. So we now have a set list of about 25 songs. So this Saturday I went down there, my brother Steve joined me. My brother Steve is a drummer and a percussionist and we had just the best session with our set list. I mean, fellas, ladies and gentlemen, I don't want to brag, but we freaking knocked it out of the park. It was unbelievable and it was nice to have my brother there playing the percussion. He even did a little bit of background vocals and it was just really an amazing thing.
Speaker 1:And some of the songs that we were doing heck, we were just doing them off the cuff, you know we thought, oh, let's, I wonder if we could add this one. We'd start playing it on my whole, like God. This happens to be one of my favorites, you know Black Sabbath Symptom of the Universe. I say we're rocking hard rock. Man, this is no, this isn't, like I said, love ballads. So we did that. Oh, we tore it, it up. And the song Stevie by Pat Travers. We're doing that one and that song reminds me of my brother Steve, so to have him there while I was singing that song gave me a lot more inspiration and I usually have pretty inspired, but, daddy, that gave me even more inspiration and so it really went well.
Speaker 1:If you're wondering what kind of rock are you doing, you've got to understand we're album rock, older dudes with freaking albums, ufo shoot, shoot, cracker man by Stone Temple Pilots. You know what we're doing. We're doing the song by Sugarloaf Green-Eyed Lady, except we're doing it Pat Travers style. I love that song. So we're actually doing a couple of Pat Travers. We're doing Nazareth, hair of the Dog. Oh God, we have so many good songs. So, yeah, it's going extremely well. I'm hoping that in the near future, if we get good enough, who knows, maybe we can celebrate the 12th anniversary of my radio show with some kind of a gathering Pat Wall Show, pat's Peeps Gathering and celebrate and have the band play live. I just think that would be phenomenal.
Speaker 1:You get such a charge out of singing with a band. There's nothing like it. And when you hear the band and they're cranking and it just sounded so good, you know I stop and I'll close my eyes for a minute in between lyrics and between verses and I'm just thinking like, wow, listen to this, like listen to this band, and I get to see I'm the singer man. It puts a charge into me. So what we do? Rock Bottom by UFO, the guitar on that was so good last week. I Need to Know Tom Petty, the Heartbreaker, so many others.
Speaker 1:I'm up here by the post office. I better get out of the way of this big truck. You'll hear it come by. There you go. I don't have my keys with me. To the PO box. Some motorcycles, and that's a different topic.
Speaker 1:I don't know what's going on with the Real ID, but I have yet to get my driver's license. I renewed my driver's license on May 6th. Today's August 5th we're a day away from being three months. I have yet to get my driver's license. I tried calling DMV Wouldn't go through. I tried logging on to DMV, I couldn't find any reason. Maybe it was my error that I couldn't figure it out, but nonetheless I jumped to all the hoops, I did everything that was required of me to obtain my driver's license, renew it on the 6th and again, still have not received that. So I don't know if anyone else is dealing with that.
Speaker 1:I started to wonder why, what the heck's going on, and I'm starting to wonder if perhaps you know, when you go to the Bay Area it used to be you paid when you go through a toll bridge. Well, I remember I wasn't expecting the fact, because I don't go down there that often. I went down there this past weekend, but I don't go that often and I think I remember catching me off guard that it was a fast track or whatever they call that, where you just drive through and it just clocks track or whatever they call that, where you just drive through and it just clocks you or whatever, and you're supposed to have to pay with a card or what have you. However, that works. I think I might have one of those that I didn't even realize I had and that man it's not paid. So I need to look into that. I'm sure they've doubled or tripled the fine now, but I just kind of forgot about that. I don't know if that has anything to do with not getting the driver's license, but I am curious if anyone else is seeing a delay in getting their new driver's license or Real ID, or if anyone has any information on you know if you have some kind of traffic outstanding ticket or fee or something, if that's going to prevent you from getting your driver's license. So, anyhow, just a thought as I'm walking along, you know, I think I'll pay it. I'm doing pretty good right now on my walk.
Speaker 1:Speaking to that, now, granted, I'm not running because I'm trying to talk. Granted, only part of this is going uphill Some of it's level. So it's not like I'm sitting here thinking I'm achieving anything big and spectacular. However, in my mind it is big, it is spectacular because I am out here doing this. I'm now going to try to add this component, the more aerobic component, to my routine and certainly that'll keep your blood pressure down. It'll keep your you know your heart rate up and keep your heart rate pumping. And I don't want to keep my heart rate up, but I'm saying strong. I should say not keep it up, but keep it strong and also get those endorphins kicked in. Give you peace of mind. Let you know that. Hey, it's not as bad as you thought, just like the sit-ups, not as bad as you thought, and it's a great feeling once you do it. Plus, I'm trying to incorporate more salad into my diet. I've been doing great Salad fruits, things like that.
Speaker 1:Anyhow, enough of that. I'm just talking here on Pats Peeps 311. Trying to enjoy a Tuesday afternoon with you. I thank you for that. Scott Robinson will be joining me on the show tonight. As he does on most Tuesday nights, scott fills in for me, guest host when I'm on vacation, and we were planning on doing a show tonight where Bruce Campbell, bc, was also going to be in studio and we were going to do like a three-part hosting of my show, part hosting of my show. However, as it turns out, bc will not be able to make it as he has other plans here this evening. So we'll do that another night, but Scott will be in tonight.
Speaker 1:So let's see anything else. Anything else on the horizon here, anything I need to think about. Well, I'll tell you what. I'm going to wrap it up from my little walk, a little walk and talk on a Tuesday. I know, eileen, you came up with that one she does a walk and talk too. A little podcast, it's great, takes you downtown and all that. But anyhow, thank you to everyone as we continue on On this Tuesday on Pat's Peeps, number 311.
Speaker 1:You know I really liked about that, as I was listening, was the roosters. The roosters crowing throughout the walk and talk there. But walk and chat or whatever. Well, that felt good. I mean, that was a great way to get my Tuesday going, unlike yesterday on a Monday, which I don't want to really revisit too much.
Speaker 1:Suffice it to say it was I don't know. Let's just say, like I don't know, three hours combined of a tech line with a tech person trying to log on, so you can do another two hours. Well, another hour of compliance, fcc and other compliance training for radio that I've been in this business since I've been in the business since 1990. I know what I'm doing in radio. But anyway, you have to. You have to do this ridiculous training and you can't fast forward through it. Remember now in the workplace, you know it's just the most obvious stuff. I want to make a joke, but whatever, I'll leave it alone. And then after that you're doing like self-evaluation. I've never had to do in all the years I've been doing radio. It's the first time I ever had to do a self-evaluation on myself.
Speaker 1:What are you going to say? You know, uh, what is your confidence like and what have you added to the station in terms of? You know, what are you going to go? Uh, and, and one through five. Well, I'm going to rate, you know, one being the least favorable, five being you're just outstanding. And I'm going to rate myself. What are you going to go? You know, I'm right, I really kind of suck. You know, fill out little one. I met one or two. If I could just figure out how to do radio or come up with new components. You know what I mean. It's just. But anyhow, I don't want to go down that road. You're all stressed out again, but today, lovely to get out there. That's what I need to do more of.
Speaker 1:By the way, just in case you're wondering well, I wonder what kind of music? Like I said, we do rock. We do some pretty hard rock. I'm not talking about thrashy stuff like that, I'm just talking about. Here's what I'm talking about. If you are my age and you are listening to albums, that's your album collection. Okay, that's what it is. I mean I could go through the list, let me see if I can. Well, here's one we do. It never gets old to me and we have a lot of.
Speaker 1:I have a lot of fun singing this one here. We did this the other night, oh my gosh, so fun. Golden Earring, of course. Yeah, I know I don't own the rights to this song. Hey, did you play that song on your podcast? Yes, I've been driving all night my hands wet on the wheel. There's a voice in my head that drives my heat.
Speaker 1:Now would I like to play originals Absolutely, and maybe we will. I think we will, if not with this band. I've got another friend, the friend that does my theme, sean Moody, johnny Quality. So we may be doing some recorded stuff, but as far as the band is concerned that I'm in right now, we're doing like this. We're doing UFO, aerosmith, led Zeppelin, stone Temple Pilots, as I mentioned prior, pat Travers. We'll do some Lynyrd Skynyrd, not Sweet Home Alabama, not Freebird. We do deep cuts. We do a song called Memo from Turner, which just I love it, and it's redone by Dramar Turner, which just I love it, and it's redone by Dramarama, one of the silliest names, but it's a Mick Jagger tune that is just so edgy and so tight Nazareth, thin Lizzy, bad Company, cars Sticks, tom Petty. I need to know. So just wanted to let you know.
Speaker 1:And as I was looking, I was doing a little research because, you know, a band can be a very complex thing. It's hard to be and I've been in three. Let's see three different bands, I believe, and again, it can be very, very complex in terms of different personalities. You know, you have four or five different adults. They all have the desire, of course, to play music together, but it's just a mix of different personalities. That's why a lot of times bands break up, other times, heck, they last forever.
Speaker 1:Uh, you know, and each member of a band is perceived to have a particular characteristic. So I looked it up because I didn't know exactly. I, in my mind, I had an idea about this, but I wanted to look it up just to kind of see what other people were saying, what sounded, what the common thoughts are on this topic. Let me get a drink of water. We're talking about bands, rock bands, whatever, funk, doesn't matter what the genre is, but in this case we're talking about rock. So you know the members of a rock band, they follow it, or other genres. It falls into this certain perceived personality, these archetypes. Of course you've got to remember again, these are just stereotypes. Individual personalities can vary. So some of the common perceptions.
Speaker 1:Let's start with the drummer. I said my brother Steve is a drummer, he is a great drummer. John Q is a great drummer. I said my brother Steve is a drummer, he is a great drummer. John Q is a great drummer. You know my brother Steve, who's just banging away in his garage constantly, has been for years mastering what he his love, his passion of playing the drums, love his passion of playing the drums. And then Herb, our current drummer, is just, it's a privilege to play with this guy. So drummers here's what they say Often associated with high energy and a playful, even wild, personality. You look at him Keith Moon, john Bonham, just to start at the top. My brother and I mean that in a good way, by the way. Herb, outgoing, very outgoing. I don't know him as well so I can't speak to that necessarily. Just so you get the idea there. That's according to mikecom.
Speaker 1:Now they're sometimes perceived as less. Can you believe that they would say I hadn't read this? I have not pre-read this. I started to read this sentence. I'm like wait a second, what? So? These are not my words. I'm glad I just I'm glad I attributed this to mikecom.
Speaker 1:I did not realize that they are sometimes perceived as less intellectually inclined. What does that mean, dumb? Um, listen man, I, if that's what that's, if that's what they're going for, I'm gonna have to go ahead and disagree with that one. All right, I'm gonna stand up for drummers on that one. It's not like I know every drummer in the world or any any other um, you know, bassist, or guitarist, or singer, what have you? But no keyboard player any other, sometimes perceived that way as free spirits who enjoy living on the edge. Okay, that's cool. Yeah, my brother's high energy. He's playful, he can be wild, he has been. He's calmed down now.
Speaker 1:Bass player, commonly viewed as more reserved and introverted, often content to stay in the background, anchor the rhythm section. Again, who gosh? You know now that I'm thinking about bass players that I know they are actually the ones that I know are are kind of like that. Michael anthony, evan halen just comes to mind, and some of the ones that I know personally. You know he was content to be in the background and to just kind of do his thing and he's a great bassist and great background vocalist, but that just kind of comes to mind, but it says.
Speaker 1:However, some sources describe bass players as the glue that holds the band together, possessing a vast knowledge of music theory and production skills. Heck yeah, without that thump man, you got to have that bottom line. It's an amazing thing how a band works together. Then you have your lead guitarist. You know what I noticed? It doesn't say anything about the keyboard player. Oh boy, it's only going with the four components. It doesn't add I don't see anything about keyboards.
Speaker 1:Lead guitarist stereotyped as attention-seeking and competitive. This is according to Guitar Paradise blog, who apparently know these things. Some perceptions suggest that they are prone to displaying egos and boasting about their abilities. All right, let me see Prone to displaying egos and boasting about their abilities. All right, let me see Prone to displaying egos. I mean, hey, I don't know, nothing really comes off the top of mind. But yeah, well, I mean, if you think about it, the guitar player comes out, does his solo. He kind of does it in front of the band, even comes out in front of the singer, or at least next to the singer. A lot of the times the singer will step aside, so he is featuring, so that the guitar player is featured. It depends on the band, I guess, but prone to displaying egos and boasting about their abilities. I haven't read the singer one yet, but I wonder if ego is in that, because I think I've heard that before. But again, I have not pre-read this. So let's go to lead singer.
Speaker 1:Some of the common perceptions Often seen as charismatic. Well, thank you so much. Outgoing. Okay, I am outgoing. You can judge for yourself whether or not I'm charismatic. I'll have to leave that up to you.
Speaker 1:And they're the face of the band. They're believed to command attention on stage and be the main point of connection with the audience. I would say that is true. I've gone to a lot of concerts. You know any concert I go to, whether it's Aerosmith and it's Steven Tyler up there, whether it's Jay Giles and you got Peter Wolfe up there, whether it's the Stones with Mick Jagger, I mean on and on and on. You know, sometimes if it is, let's say, a guitarist, slash singer, I'd have to think about that. But certainly David Lee Roth, van Halen, he was a front man. That's what you do, you're the front man. So that's yeah, I agree with that they believe to command attention on stage they would.
Speaker 1:Someone has to a lot of the. You know, gotta understand a lot of people that are in the band. They don't want to command attention. There are people, maybe some do, but for the most part you don't see keyboard players or, you know, you don't really see bassists or the drummer trying to command attention. Yeah, they do their bass solo, but that's kind of to kind of show off for a second. You had to get attention for a minute, but also to give the band a break. Let's be honest, and which I always thought was interesting, by the way, it's the drummer who, in my opinion, is working the hardest. The front man works pretty hard too, I will say that. But a drummer is actually being with your arms, being physical and sweating a lot. The drummer does that. But heck, listen, the front man, if you're good, you're running around being athletic. If you're a good one, it just depends on the style. Let's see. Also, the lead singer makes connection with the audience.
Speaker 1:This perception can be so strong that losing a lead singer is often seen as a significant setback for a band's success. Absolutely, it's true. I mean you can think of a few bands. Acdc comes to mind. Bon Scott passes away, brian Johnson takes over. They become huge Black Sabbath, ozzy and Sabbath part ways. Ronnie James Dio joins with Sabbath, heaven and hell mob rules. Unbelievably great record. So it does happen, but I would suggest that it doesn't happen that often. I know there are some other examples, but if it take me a while really honestly to think about that, who would you know who? Anyhow, I better wrap this up.
Speaker 1:I'll ramble on all day today speaking of bands and front men. In this case, 80s rock legend david roach has passed away, 59 years old, just 59 years old. Uh, he was the front man of this band. No, uh, this band junkyard. Maybe some of you know, maybe you don't know them, but anyhow, on just a couple of days on the, the band announced its passing.
Speaker 1:It was a courageous battle with cancer. God, everyone is inflicted with this god-awful disease. Bless anyone who was dealing with that. You just got to count your blessings and thank God if you're okay anyhow. So I thought we could go out with some junkyard and I could say thank you for listening to my podcast, pat's Peeps, number 311. Take care of yourself. Rest in peace, david Roach. We'll see you on the radio. Back in my old hometown, there were long summer days, there were leaves on the ground and it was too cold a place. The city's colder than coal. It's faceless and gray, and all the dreams that you hold keep slipping away, slipping away, slipping away, little by little and day by day, slipping away, slipping away. Bye, thank you.
