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Pat's Peeps Podcast
Ep. 314 Today's Peep Fills-In: The Unexpected Power of Radio Fill-Ins, What the World Needs Now- Bacharach, Memory, and Meaning
The magic and challenges of talk radio life come alive as we explore behind-the-scenes realities from fill-in hosting to dental disasters and musical memories.
• Insights from filling in for another talk show host and the stark differences between daytime news-focused radio and evening entertainment formats
• The surprising revelation that most radio shows have dedicated producers while some hosts operate without this crucial support
• Another chapter in the ongoing dental nightmare saga, with two broken teeth in rapid succession from hidden bone fragments in food
• A deep dive into Burt Bacharach's musical legacy and his 52 US top 40 hits that defined an era
• Exploration of Jackie DeShannon's "What the World Needs Now Is Love" and its powerful 1971 remix by DJ Tom Clay that incorporated civil rights speeches and assassination coverage
• How certain songs can transport us to specific moments in time, creating vivid memories that stay with us forever
Thank you for listening to Pats Peeps, number 314. Look forward to seeing you on the radio.
Well, we are back. It is the Pats Peeps podcast. Hello, how are you? Happy? Tuesday, august the 12th, 2025, 2025.
Speaker 1:It's late in the day, so I'm looking out my studio window into the darkened foothills of northern california, where it is still relatively warm. I'll tell you that over the last week it's been very hot. Uh, today I uh it was hot, but anyhow it's dark now. This is one of the few times that I do my podcast at night, because on a weeknight, I rarely do my podcast on the weekend, so I do it monday through friday normally, but tonight I'm doing it in the evening because I had the opportunity to fill in for another talk show host today, which is interesting. I'm not a fill-in talk show host. I have my own show, not to brag, but I do the Pat Walsh Show, which is at KFBK Radio Sacramento 93.1 FM, 1530 AM. 7 to 10 PM, monday through Friday, plus my peeps here. Please, patspeepscom, support your local business. And today, though, instead of doing my 7 to 10 PM slot, I filled in for the Shane reaction, which is noon to 3. That's a great time slot. By the way, it's a very different type of show, more newsy, where you're paying attention, I'm paying attention to a lot of the current things that are happening, whether it's insurance, fire insurance in the state of California, and I had guests on all day Congressman Doug LaMalfa, part of my show today on the Shane reaction, so that leaves my nighttime open and they're playing the best of. By the way, instead of having to fill in tonight for whatever reason maybe someone was not available they're playing the best of, and so I mean that's just the way it works out.
Speaker 1:Sometimes Maybe I could have done another show. I don't know, but listen, no one wants to. First of all, no one wants to hear. That'd be like six, that'd be six hours of me. I mean, I love you, but I know you love me back, because you guys would be, wouldn't be listening and gosh, I do appreciate you. I um, no, no one needs that much, plus a podcast. That'd be seven hours of my day. But so they gave me the night off, obviously, and that's what we do. You know someone takes the day off. You need someone. Bam, I'll come do it, why not? We look out for one another. I'm sure Sam would do it for me.
Speaker 1:We have two very different styles of shows. Whereas the daytime shows are more targeted towards New Zealand-type of events, whether it's politics or whatever it might be. Like I just said, insurance Recently we had Steve Moskowitz talking about the big, beautiful bill and how it affects all of us tax wise, to try to get an understanding. You know things like that front page type of things, whereas on my show I still do that, but I I mix it up. You know I'm always looking for something that slipped through the cracks, other angles, different things, because you know what there's other things going on in this world. It's not all about controversy and divisiveness. Sometimes it's about hey, how you doing, man, let's talk some music, or have you seen a good movie? Or let's talk about whatever nostalgia, or what can we do to make things better? I don't know, we just have fun. As many of you have said, it's the respite at the end of the day, or it is the beer at the end of a long day, and I love that role. I really do, but I enjoy being flexible, so it was fun. Thank you to KFPK and iHeart and thank you to Sam Shane and Bill White, luis Aquino, who is a great guy. He is the you know, I can actually say producer. He produces the Sam Shane, the Shane reaction Boy.
Speaker 1:I could get into the whole thing about a producer. I'm just going to say it right now. You know, you listen to all these radio shows, whether it's Sam Shane, whether it's Armstrong and Getty, tom Sullivan who's now retired, you name it they all have producers. I can assure you I am the only show, the only host, doing a radio show, at least that I am aware of, that has no producer. Do you know? I've never had a producer, and if you listen to my show and you're going well, wait a second, you had kendall, you have, you have solo.
Speaker 1:There's a difference between a technical producer which is kendall or solo or some of the other great technical producers that we have. These are the people that you know. They let you know what's going on within the show, they run the board to keep us on air, they play the commercials, they keep everything in order, producing the show in that way, and I love them and I love what they have done for my show and I love them and I love what they have done for my show. Without them, I couldn't do it here. I can run my own board on my podcast, not in radio. You need these very valuable people. So I salute them.
Speaker 1:But a producer, when you're talking about an actual show producer, there's a difference. Those people, they, they line up guests for you. They have lots of ideas. Now, what? Now? Kendall? Going back to kendall, she always had good ideas and back then she spoke on the radio. Back then that's a long story I'm not going to get into but she could speak on the radio. She no longer works there. I miss her very much. I'm sure a bunch of the audience does as well, but it was out of our control. But Kendall again, was a technical producer who added a lot of spice and a lot of value to the show and had a lot of great ideas. All these other shows have producers. They get the audio, they cut up the audio. They say Pat, have you seen this story? You know this is going on.
Speaker 1:You know who my producers are from my show. Being honest with you, you, what do you mean? Well, because I get so much great content from you. You guys are always pointing out great content for me and that's always very, very helpful. Beyond that, you know, you're just always thinking what can I do? That's a little bit different, but I don't have a producer and that's just the way it is. I'm not going to sit here and complain about it, would it be nice?
Speaker 1:Yes, so today, when I walk in to do the Shane reaction, here's Luis Aquino and he's producing and I went, oh my god, wait, a minute. Wait, yeah, I got this guy. We'll go ahead and call the. I know you wanted this guest, the congressman, so I'm going to go ahead and try to get him on. Bam, got him on. Uh, I know you wanted the insurance guy doing so we can tell everyone about what's going on with the fire insurance in California. Got him on.
Speaker 1:Otherwise, it's me. Thank God, I like what I do. I do like what I do. So that was awesome. That was just to take you a little bit behind the scenes and how we do things there. Beyond that, I do understand that it's been. This is the longest probably I've gone without doing a peeps in between peeps, and I apologize for that. The last time I did one was five days ago. I can't even believe that, and you know what. You guys are still listening. The numbers are actually very strong. I thank you. Oh my, my gosh, thank you so much. I'm not on tonight. I'm doing. I'm doing the best stuff before I get to what I was going to say, one of the reasons why I was off, I I wanted to also mention that you know, scott robinson and bc bruce campbell fill in for my show and they do a wonderful job.
Speaker 1:I always like when we have a good fill-in. And I will tell you this filling in for a talk show for a host that people like and enjoy is very, very difficult, because you know when they're used to a certain voice, a certain style, and if they enjoy that, and then the music comes on, she sells sanctuary, in this case the cult and and then, all of a sudden, it's not me and I and I don't say that to be egotistical or narcissistic in any way, I'm just telling you the reality of it. Some people go oh wow, it pats not on. Tonight it's uh, you know, uh, they've got a fill-in host. Well, I'm blessed to have two guys who are great fill-ins. I'd love to find a woman who could fill in. I'm not based this on sex or anything, I'm just saying that it just happens to be two guys. I've had women fill in for my show as well, but currently it's Scott and it's Bruce and they do a great job and and again it's. It can be difficult to do that and here these guys do a stellar job and you guys listen and respond. So thank you for treating those gentlemen the way you do. I really appreciate all of that. It's an interesting thing.
Speaker 1:Being a radio talk show host. I can't think of a lot of other occupations where people tell you how you're doing at your job. I mean, think about it. I can't think of very many. Whereas you're doing your job, people are giving you feedback throughout the day. I'm not talking about your boss or I'm not talking about your co-workers. I'm talking about just people who are using, I guess consuming, your product, in this case radio and you guys are great, always great comments, wonderful feedback. Like I said earlier, you send great content. I'll get off of that. I just want to say thank you. All right, much gratitude.
Speaker 1:The reason I have been sort of missing in action let me get a drink here. Oh boy, I've been so thirsty lately, just lately, only because it's hot. It's not diabetes or anything, but it has been just I. I feel like a broken record when I say this, but it's true. The dental nightmares that I go through my entire life, you know. Recently, long story short, bought some burger, made a hamburger chunk of bone in a burger, busted out front left tooth. A few days ago, went to breakfast, ordered breakfast about four or five bites in big chunk of bone. Never saw it, almost like a little ball of a bone bit on it, busted my right tooth out. It's just the way it is. So I had the big dental appointment today to see what they can do. I remember it was a few months ago during Thanksgiving and Christmas and into the New Year's where I was missing that front tooth.
Speaker 1:Remember those? Go back and listen to those podcasts. That was the laundromat podcasts, for something truly different. You'll have to go back and look for those in retrospect. I was having fun doing that, but I was not having fun missing the front tooth. So, uh, yeah, whatever. So that was the. That's the heck I've been going through all right, whatever it's life. You know I wanted to talk about this record.
Speaker 1:I pulled out my record shelf today. I'm not going to make it this quite this short, I'm not going to end here, but I, when I pulled this record off the shelf today. This kind of brings back good memories and actual, very vivid memories, just so random, though Meaningless to anyone else, but very random, and just there it is stuck on this card in the Rolodex of my mind from the early 70s, going to Oregon with my mom and my brothers and sisters in the Ford Falcon station wagon, yellow, this song playing on a rainy morning as we were getting into Oregon we were headed to Salem, oregon. Anyhow, just thinking about that and when I pulled this record, it always reminds me of that.
Speaker 1:This is on a white. Let me pull it out of the sleeve here. It's a white label. It's on let's see what is it Audition. Oh, it's Audition. Big letters. Audition record Wow, it usually says radio promo. This in big letters says Audition record Wow, it usually says radio promo. This big letter says audition record on Imperial Records. 66110 is the number on this.
Speaker 1:No radio station stickers or anything like that. No radio station markings. On this side, danielle, let's see. Oh, now there is on this side 1965, there's one sticker. It's got another little yellow sticker says 25, whatever that means. And there's some other little, I don't know what that is like, a stamp or something on there record looks it's harder to tell at night looks pretty good, though looks pretty darn good. I can't tell if it's mint or an excellent shape or whatever, but anyhow, when I play.
Speaker 1:So I think about the the family trip in the ford falcon station wagon to oregon that time, um. And then when I came, when we came back, several my dad, unbeknownst to my mother at the time, had up and moved out, met another woman, moved the stuff out, came back, half of the house was empty. Now I was out for a cheerful story. There you go, gee Pat, thanks for the uplifting story. That's just true, though it's like 1971 or 72. This record's 1965, but I just remember this happened in the early 70s anyhow, whatever.
Speaker 1:So then, it also reminds me of another record, and it also makes me think of the one of the composers on this particular record, who I regard as one of the great musical composers of all time, and that is Burt Bacharach. I'm a big fan. I'm a big fan of Burt Bacharach. Excuse me, burt Bacharach for those of you who do not know again, I certainly he passed away in 23. American composer, he was a songwriter, he was a record producer, he played piano and indeed he is regarded as one of the most important, one of the most influential composers and artists of the 20th century of popular music.
Speaker 1:One of the most influential figures of the 20th century no doubt we're talking Burt Bacharach is, is. I mean he composed hundreds of songs, pop songs and many of these. He collaborated with a lyricist by the name of Hal David and he was brilliant and he worked with so many great artists, starting back in the 50s. I mean he worked with geez boy. There's just so many that come to mind Right off the top of my head. It would be like Dionne Warwick, maybe not in the 50s, but certainly like in the 60s. My head it would be like Dionne Warwick, and maybe not in the 50s, but certainly like in the 60s. Um, obvious, I shouldn't say obviously. But Tom Jones, bj Thomas, I'm trying to think. But but Marty Robbins and he had great songs.
Speaker 1:As a kid my mom, mom, listening in that station wagon to the AM radio. You'd have these songs coming on all the time. Dusty Springfield, I think, was one of them. One of the great things he did. There's this great song called this Guy's in Love with you by Herb Alpert. This came out in 1968. And his story has it. You know. They write the song, herb Alpert, bert Bachrach, and Herb Alpert asks or I guess he expects that Bert or someone's going to sing the song. Bert Bachrach says no, you sing it, herb, you sing it, herb, you sing it. Herb Alpert wasn't a singer, played horn, he was the band leader, but he sang this guy's in love with you, burt Bacharach, again showing why he is a genius, I mean because that song is just a beautiful song. Let's listen to Bert, I mean to Herb Alpert sing, and just the musical, just the music from Bert Bacharach, tijuana Brass, you see this guy.
Speaker 2:this guy's in love with you yes, I'm in love. Who looks at you the way I do when you smile?
Speaker 3:I can't tell you smile.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Herb Alpert singing on that. We know each other very well. How can I show you I'm glad I got to know you because I've heard some talk?
Speaker 1:I mean you talk about. In total, Burt Bacharach wrote 52 US top 40 hits. Remarkable Some of the hits would be that song, this Guy's In Love With you, 68. Raindrops Keep Falling On my Head, bj Thomas, 1969. Close To you by the Carpenters, 1970. Arthur's Theme the Best you Can Do, christopher Cross, 81. Dionne Warwick that's what Friends Are For. One of my least favorite, sorry, but it is, and there were others. So I do think about Burt Bacharach. You know, oh, you know, what I love that he one of my favorites is what's New Pussycat, tom Jones. That was a Tom Jones song, but he would do. He did a lot of Dionne Warwick. Do you know the way to San Jose? Say a little prayer, walk on by. These were all the records. These were all the songs playing on KGMS Easy listening.
Speaker 1:If you see me walking down the street on my mother's AM Delco, Playing on KGMS Easy listening On my mother's AM Delco or Indax Ford radio Women. You know, you see the women in the beehive hairdos.
Speaker 1:Remember that you got the dad in the station wagon smoking. He's got the win-win open. You're in the back choking, but you know what? It was good music to choke on smoke by. I always liked the Dionne Warwick stuff, so just a little bit on the composer. Then I want to play the record for you. And then I want to play another thing that it reminds me of, or at least I want to play part of the record. I do not own this music, so I'm going to play part of this record for you, and this is the song that was playing on the way to Salem, oregon, that morning. I always love the message.
Speaker 1:1965, lyrics by Hal David. Music composed by Burt Bacharach, recorded, made popular by this artist April 15th of 65 excuse me on the imperial label. After release on the sister label, liberty records, which was the previous month, was canceled, went to number seven on the US, was canceled, went to number seven on the US Hot 100 in July of that year. In Canada, the song went to number one In 2008, the song was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame. All right, so, without further ado, jackie to Shannon. What the world needs now is love. Pat's Peeps 314.
Speaker 2:What the world needs now is love, sweet love. It's the only thing that there's just too little of. What the world needs now is love, sweet love. No, not just for some, but for everyone. Lord, we don't need another mountain. There are mountains and hillsides enough to climb. There are oceans and rivers enough to cross, enough to last till the end of time. What the world needs now is love, sweet love. It's the only thing that there's just too little of. But the world needs love. It's love, sweet love. No, not just for some, but for everyone.
Speaker 1:There were various cover versions of that song, but this one from 1971, this remix, this disc jockey, tom Clay. He was working at this radio station, kgbs in Los Angeles, and he creates a single. What the World Needs Now is Love, abraham, martin and John. So he combines with a top five hit in 1968 by Dion, a social commentary that became a surprise hit record that summer. So the song begins with a man and he's asking this young girl to define words like bigotry, segregation and hatred. Girl doesn't know what he's talking about, asks about prejudice, and then I'll leave it up to. I'll let the record tell you what she says. When asked about prejudice, because it's pretty good, I'll say that Gave me the chills Still does. Following.
Speaker 1:Following that, then you hear a sound, a sound bite of a drill sergeant leading a platoon into training. Then you hear gunfire, sound effects remember vietnam's going on this time. Then you hear snippets of these two songs. They're recorded by the black, which is a session recording group, and mixed in this are speeches, little excerpts of speeches by JFK, robert F Kennedy. John F Kennedy eulogy given by Ted Kennedy where he's getting emotional. Robert's assassination audio you have Martin Luther King in there. Soundbites of the news coverage of the assassination. Now you can see why it gave me chills when I heard this. That song went to number eight on the Billboard Hot 100 in August of 71. That must be where I heard it. Here's how that sounds. It starts off with what the world needs now is love. What is segregation?
Speaker 2:I don't know what segregation is. What is bigotry? I don't know what bigotry is.
Speaker 3:What does hatred mean?
Speaker 2:I don't know what it is. What is prejudice? I think it's when somebody's sick.
Speaker 4:Right, this time, boys.
Speaker 2:One, two, three, four. One, two, three boys. Let me hear you shout One, two, three, four. One, two, three, four. I don't know what I believe. I don't know what I believe. Call me home at Christmas Eve. Call me home at Christmas Eve One, two, three, four. One, two, three, four. One, two, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4. Anybody here See my old friend John? Can you tell me where he's gone?
Speaker 4:We're at the trademark. The motorcade is coming by here. I can see many, many motorcycles coming by now. Police motorcycles Just had a call on the radio For all units along industrial. The motorcade is coming by here. I can see many, many motorcycles coming by now. Police motorcycles Just had a call on the radio for all units along industrial to pick up the motorcade. Something has happened here. We understand there has been a shooting. The presidential car coming up now we know it's the presidential car. You can see Mrs Kennedy's pink suit. There's a Secret Service man spread eagle over the top of the car. We understand Governor and Mrs Connolly are in the car with President and Mrs Kennedy. We can't see who has been hit, if anybody's been hit, but apparently something is wrong here. Something is terribly wrong. I'm in behind the motorcade trying to follow the notes as though they're going to Parkland Hospital.
Speaker 3:We interrupt this program to bring you a special bulletin Dallas Texas the Flash. Apparently official President John F Kennedy died at 1pm Central Standard Time.
Speaker 1:So it goes into Martin Luther King now and it goes through the assassinations. I know I don't own the rights to this. I'm just trying to. You know I've got to tell you I'm rights to this. I'm just trying to. You know, I've got to tell you. I'm trying to educate, I'm just trying to share this with, but anyhow, this is Martin Luther King.
Speaker 4:But it really doesn't matter with me now because I've been to the mountaintop. I don't mind.
Speaker 1:I'm going to say this. I'm a person who enjoys audio editing and this guy, tom Clay, did a great job. He really thought it through and placed the sound bites at the precise, perfect spot within the music. Good job.
Speaker 4:Like anybody, I would like to live. No one can be certain who next will suffer from some senseless act of bloodshed.
Speaker 1:I better leave it at that. Thank you, my friends, for listening. I'll play this out here. I want to say thank you for listening to my Pats Peeps, number 314. It was good getting back to work today. Thank you to Sam Shane, bill White, everyone I've already thanked. Thanks to you guys. Surely do appreciate you. I'll keep saying it over, and, over, and over and over, and I mean it all. Right, I'll finish this out just for a little bit, anyhow, and I look forward to seeing you on the radio. That's Bobby Kennedy. Oh my.
Speaker 4:God, senator Kennedy has been shot. Is that possible? Oh my God, senator Kennedy has been shot. Rafferty Johnson has a hold of the man who apparently has fired the shot. Get the gun, get the gun.
Speaker 1:By the way, who helped get that gun, none other than former LA Ram Rosie Greer, who's still with us, celebrated a birthday recently.
Speaker 4:Stay away from the gun. His hand is frozen. Take a hold of his thumb and break it. If you have to Get his thumb, all right, that's it, raper, get it. Get the gun, raper, hold him, hold him. We don't want another Oswald.
