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Ep. 315 Today's Peep Gets High on Pot Politics: Marijuana Reclassification and Legalization, A Lighthearted Look at America's Changing Cannabis Laws and Recreational Usage
The absurdity of marijuana's classification as a Schedule I drug alongside heroin and LSD takes center stage in this exploration of America's complicated relationship with cannabis. As President Biden prepares to make a decision on reclassifying marijuana "in the coming weeks," we examine what this potential change could mean for users, the medical community, and our legal system.
Drawing from recent conversations with medical professionals, including a physician who called into my radio show to share that the only adverse effect he's observed from marijuana use is "perhaps a lack of motivation," we contrast these mild outcomes with the devastating consequences portrayed in vintage propaganda films like "Reefer Madness." The stark contrast between evidence-based assessments and fear-mongering highlights how far our understanding has evolved.
The podcast delves into the logical inconsistencies of current cannabis policy, particularly when compared to alcohol. As I point out, "I don't really recall anyone in my life saying 'God, I woke up this morning with headaches from smoking weed last night,'" unlike the well-documented hangovers and potential liver damage associated with alcohol consumption. This comparison forms the backbone of my argument for full legalization rather than merely rescheduling marijuana as a Schedule III substance, which would still leave it classified as a controlled substance subject to federal regulations.
Through a blend of humor, cultural references, and policy analysis, this episode offers a thought-provoking look at where we've been and where we're heading with marijuana legislation in America. Whether you're a casual observer of drug policy or have strong opinions on legalization, you'll find something to ponder in this entertaining yet substantive discussion. Tune into the Pat Walsh Show on KFBK News Radio (7-10 PM Monday through Friday) for more conversations that challenge conventional thinking and explore today's most relevant topics.
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Speaker 1:Came in to do the podcast last night. That was kind of awesome to do it last night. Thank you, if you listen to the podcast that I posted a rare evening podcast as I filled in for Sam Shane. Yes, yeah, kpk in the afternoon. My name is Pat Walsh, also the host of the Pat Walsh radio show. Kpk news radio in Sacramento 7 to 10 pm Monday through Friday.
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Speaker 1:We had a lot of phone calls on this. As a guest hosted for Sam Shane, who does Noon to 3 on BK, bk talked a little bit about this. The president says he's going to make a decision on reclassifying marijuana in the coming weeks and and so I thought that was pretty interesting, as the president said yesterday well, actually on Monday his administration was looking at reclassification. A pot intends to make a decision in the upcoming weeks, like I just said, um a very complicated subject base, he said during a press briefing, says I've heard great things having to do with medical and bad things having to do with just about everything else. I had a doctor who called my show yesterday, called himself Dr Bruce, says he's beena doctor for many years and that the only adverse things that he had seen with marijuana, to be honest, was perhaps a lack of motivation. I made it a point to tell him. Well, and John McGinnis Sheriff John McGinnis who does a show at 3 pm on KFPK, right after Sam Shane, until 4 before Kitty O'Neill. I told him what the doctor said, that he didn't really see adverse effects, and then John pulled up some information that he had Googled, saying it does have adverse effects. And I don't want to, obviously I don't want to get back into that today. And we're not taking phone calls here on the podcast today. And we're not taking phone calls here on the podcast today.
Speaker 1:By the way, the president did not indicate at this briefing whether he intends to reclassify pot, just that his administration would consider that Reclassifying marijuana as a Schedule III drug would reduce penalties without making it fully legal. Far as I'm concerned, I'm going to say the same thing here as I said on my radio show but yeah, I think it should be fully legal. Far as I'm concerned, I'm going to say the same thing here as I said on my radio show but yeah, I think it should be fully legal. Now, some of you are going to disagree, and that's perfectly fine. I love the difference of opinion.
Speaker 1:You know, listen, marijuana to me is no worse than alcohol. People sitting there having a cocktail and blasting people who are maybe smoking a joint, I mean, to me, I find that hypocritical. I don't really recall anyone in my life saying God, I woke up this morning I was throwing up out of headaches from smoking weed last night. Now I've heard that with alcohol, people have hangovers and it can cause cirrhosis of the liver, all this stuff, and that's not what I'm trying to get into today. I don't want to debate that. That's not my point. The point is that they're thinking about doing it at least at a class three, but which doesn't make it fully legal, you know. I just suggest that it should be.
Speaker 1:I mean, why, prohibition on pot? And there's a bunch of layers why and a bunch of reasons why. But I thought you know, here on Pat's Peeps, just to kind of keep it light. I mean what the heck it is a Wednesday Before you know, here on Pat's Peeps, just to kind of keep it light. I mean what the heck it is a Wednesday, before you know it, the weekend will be here. I thought, why not, let's have a little fun with it?
Speaker 5:These high school boys and girls are having a hop at the local soda fountain. Innocently, they dance Innocent of a new and deadly menace lurking behind closed doors Marijuana, the burning weed with its roots in hell. In this film you will see the ease with which this vicious plant can be grown in your neighbor's yard, rolled into harmless looking cigarettes, hidden in an innocent shoe or watch case. In this startling film you will see domesters lure children to destruction.
Speaker 1:Spirits Hidden in an innocent shoe or watch case. In this startling film you will see dopesters lure children to destruction. Dopesters, we're going to the dope place. Why don't you come along? Ah see, we're going to the dope place. Yeah, see, you got your bong they could play a set of doubles.
Speaker 5:Oh, you can play anytime Come on without them laughing. Can I go along with you? Yeah, we're going to do a bungalow. See, you're going to like it.
Speaker 2:See, we're going to bounce around the room a few times. You got it See, Okay, Uh-oh, oh boy. There goes Bill.
Speaker 5:I'll say Ah boy there goes, bill, through the soul-destroying reefer. They find a moment's pleasure, but at a terrible price, I'll say.
Speaker 1:Divorce, violence, murder, suicide. It's like the last party I was at Someone broke out a bong and all of thisong. Oh, maybe someone had a camera.
Speaker 5:And the ultimate end of the marijuana addict. Hopeless insanity. You got any Oreos?
Speaker 1:I feel like a milkshake.
Speaker 5:See this important film now, now, before it is too late marijuana, marijuana marijuana.
Speaker 2:Hey, hey, hey, marijuana marijuana. Hey, hey, hey, marijuana marijuana. Hey, hey, get high. Marijuana marijuana, marijuana marijuana, marijuana marijuana, marijuana marijuana. I like marijuana, you like marijuana, we like marijuana too. You know marijuana, we like marijuana too. You know what I do. Got though, man.
Speaker 6:I got a joint man, oh wow alright, hey, come on, light it up, let's get Chinese eyes. Man, what kind of joint is this man? Oh, it's a heavy duty joint man.
Speaker 2:It looks like a toothpick man.
Speaker 6:No it's not a toothpick man. No, hey, it is a toothpick man. No, it's not a toothpick man. No, hey, it is a toothpick man. Oh man, it's just, it is a toothpick. Hey, you wanna get high man? That's how they do it. They got wooden balls, man, I got a joint here, man.
Speaker 2:I've been saving for a special occasion.
Speaker 1:Play on fire love.
Speaker 5:Hey, I hope the drums don't mess up your upholstery man?
Speaker 6:Nah, I'm in a band too, man. Oh, are you? Yeah, I'm a lead singer man. Ah, that's it man. Yeah, we play everything from like Santana to El Chicano. Man, you know, like everything. Hey, I'm just a love machine and I don't work for nobody but you. Well, when my temperature eyes and then I go for her thighs and then I say guacamole in my juice, guacamole in my juice.
Speaker 2:Hijo de la chingada. Is that a joint man? I got that. Looks like a quarter pounder man. Let's a plug. Be careful with that shit, man. Is it heavy stuff, man? Will it blow me away?
Speaker 6:Put your seatbelt on, man, I've been smoking since I was born. Man, I can smoke anything. Man, talk it out, man, it kind of grabs you by the boo-boo, don't it? Hey man, what, what.
Speaker 2:Well, they'll stone you when you're trying to be so good. They'll stone you, just like they said they would. They'll stone you when you're trying to go home. They'll stone you when you're there all alone, but I would not feel so alone. Everybody must get stoned. Well, they'll stone you when you're walking on the street. They'll stone you when you're trying to keep your seat. They'll stone you when you're walking on the floor. They'll stone you when you're walking to the door, but I would not feel so all alone. Everybody must get stoned.
Speaker 4:Celebrities smoking pot and the way it was written was. I was back in my fort when I was in high school. They would pass it to me.
Speaker 1:And I would do like you know. Oh, do one for us, you have to now I didn't.
Speaker 4:Oh God, I have to remember this bit. This is Celebrity's Smoking Pot. It was written in like the 70s, so it was like Jimmy Carter. That's damn good weed. I love this the whole bit. I can't believe I'm doing it.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to remember. Give me more.
Speaker 4:Here you go, Curly. My sweetly Money Whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop. I can't believe I'm doing this. I'm not be doing it. I'm trying to recreate this.
Speaker 1:Walter Brennan Weeds make it easier.
Speaker 4:It's a damn good reflow. Yeah, the blood's on fire the blood's on fire, mr Haney from Green Acres I did them all. Mr Douglas, have I got a deal for you A genuine imitation fur line battery run bong for your smoking pleasure? I cannot believe I'm doing that, mr.
Speaker 3:Haney.
Speaker 4:I still do in my act, though I do Barney Fife Boom what do you call that? Right there, the forbidden fruit? But I do all the characters of Mayberry in the show, except for Howard Sprigg. I can pull him. I used to do him smoking pot, remember him? The town clerk? Oh yeah, whatever, gee, andy, except for Howard Sprague, I can pull him.
Speaker 3:I used to do him smoking pot. Remember him, the town clerk? Sure, oh yeah, whatever. Gee Andy, fire up a fatty.
Speaker 5:You do Floyd the Barber too.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, oh yeah Do you do Aunt.
Speaker 4:Bea. Yeah, andy, there are seeds in my barrel of water. You're done, mind stoned in a sleep, first I hit the sweet leaf and then I have nice dreams. When I get up awake and bake, take a piss and shake, my clock stopped at 420, what you want me to say. I stay blazed all day, no matter where. I'm creeping hot boxes on your clock and at the spot on the weekends you'll see smoke rising. Just who could it be? It's my rhyme of crime partner D-L-O-6-C. See it after me, born and raised in the suburbs, faded off the blood smoke, thrown it at you nerds. Thanks, johnny Richter, for your nice little handoff.
Speaker 6:I got some purple cuts. Did you bring the sandbox? Just bounce some butts, we can make a little keef. Spice up the leaf before we smoke the tree. Everybody in the scene knows he blow the most doja. That's why they label us the Kyle Mount soldiers. Time is 4 to 0,. Yeah, our clocks is always on. These anti-heroes are just here to serve you properly, so leave those blessings right up here upon the altar At four to zero. Everybody's burning ganja. Okay, let's see Toke as needed. Caution objects may appear more edible than they actually are.
Speaker 7:What's that billowing down the stairs? It's smoke. It smells like the art teacher's office.
Speaker 2:Smoke in the water. Duh-duh-duh, duh-duh-duh-duh, uh-oh, duh-duh-duh, duh-duh. They burned down the galley's house. It died with an awful sound. I am hungry for a candy bar. I think I'll eat a mound.
Speaker 7:Homer, you're doing drugs. Nah, and now I'm guilty of possession. I could go to prison Unless I testify against you, marge.
Speaker 3:It's making my eyes better, and it's legal.
Speaker 6:I could walk up to the president and blow smoke in his stupid monkey face and he'd just have to sit there groo' on it.
Speaker 3:Call the sky Havana Lake. Call the sky Rose. Carmethy, all is ari and crimson. Hello, march, I just realized I am the ow in the word now and if you tell anyone.
Speaker 7:Honey, I like it when you call, but we just talked five minutes ago. It's from the bomb. It's from the bomb. Pick it, pack it, fire it up. Come along and take a hit from the bomb. Put the blunt down just for a second. Don't get me wrong, it's not a new method. Inhale, exhale. Just got a ounce in the mail.
Speaker 7:I like a blunt or a big fat cone, but my double barrel bomb is heavy stone. Don't steal it. There's water inside. Don't spill it. It smells like shit on the carpet. Steal it, goes down smooth. When I get it clean, I'm the skunky, funky, smelly green shit.
Speaker 7:Sing my song, puff all night long as I. Take hits from the bomb. Take hits from the bomb, get back in the house. Take hits from the bomb, get back in the house, get back in the house. You don't even need drugs now. The weed is so strong. Now weed is like drugs. You know what I mean.
Speaker 7:I don't know what happened to weed. Weed used to be like a good old, fun recreational activity, but now it's like hard drugs. Man, I've done weaker acid than the weed that's out here now. It's true, though, I used to have a lot of fun with weed when I was younger, you know, I could smoke like a joint or a blunt with some people. We'd laugh, have a good time, listen to some music. Now I take one hit. I'm out walking around in the yard praying. I feel like I'm having a heart attack. I'm just saying over and over again weed's never killed anyone. Weed's never killed anyone. I'm like I don't even know if that's true. That used to be true, but I don't know if it's true anymore. This weed could be killing people, but I don't know if it's true anymore. I mean, this weed could be killing people. I don't know.
Speaker 1:Marijuana is a Schedule I drug. By the way, the process of rescheduling marijuana, or even trying to, has historically played out over the years and even decades. Paul Ameritano, the Deputy Director for the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, or NORML, previously told Nextar it's difficult to say how fast efforts could play out right now. Heather Traylor, director of operations fellow at the Rockefeller Institute, saying that in April that they could be fueled by Trump, and now we are seeing that. At this point they are Back in the 70s they would play songs about pot and they would be in the top 40. In the 70s they'd play songs about anything. One of the guys that I remember doing that and he ended up with a TV show. He became very popular. It was Jim Stafford.
Speaker 1:Anyone remember Jim Stafford? He was actually quite funny. He had humorous songs. He had like like I don't like spiders and snakes and that ain't what it takes to love me, like I want to be loved by you. Remember that song? If you were around in the 70s you probably do. It was on the radio all the time. Then he got a tv show. He had wacky songs like my girl bill, and back then you'd be listening to it going what? What do you mean? My girl bill? What are you funny there, mister, you know back in the day. And then, as it turns out, he's telling a guy by the name of bill that hey, that's my girl bill. So he would catch off guard. But he had a couple of tunes and I thought, even as a kid, I thought I think he's talking about pot, I think he's singing about pot. He had the one song called they got stoned and I missed it. Jim Stafford.
Speaker 6:I was sitting in my basement. I just had myself a taste of something that I love to taste, because it seems to make my day when my friend calls on the phone and he says I'm glad I caught you home. There's a fool down on the corner giving hundred dollar Geez.
Speaker 1:I haven't heard this in years.
Speaker 6:He said time is a waste and so get your motor racing. But I had another taste and I headed for the door and I tried to find my hat and I had a little more, and I had another taste.
Speaker 1:And then I got stoned and I missed it.
Speaker 6:I got stoned and I missed it. I got stoned and I missed it. I got stoned and it rolled right by. I got stoned and I missed it. I got stoned and I missed it, I got stoned.
Speaker 1:Put me on my mind. Yeah, he had another song back then. It was even more popular than that and they'd play it on the radio all the time Wildwood Weed, jim Stafford, pat's Peeps 315. No, I don't own the music.
Speaker 6:I'm educating, thank you. The name of this song is Wildwood Flower. Now the Wildwood Flower is an old country classic. It's gained a whole new popularity. The song isn't any more popular, but the flower's doing real good. Wildwood Flower grew wild on the farm and we never knew what it was called. Some said it was a flower and some said it was a weed. I didn't get it.
Speaker 1:I like the juice harp in here, the jaw harp, whatever. You call that, kazoo, whatever that is.
Speaker 6:I don't know what happened, but I knew it beat the hell out of Smith and Burlap I come to. My brother was there and he said what's wrong with your eyes? I said I don't know. I was chewing on the weed. He said let me give it a try. Spent the rest of that day and most of that night trying to find my brother. Bill caught up with him about six o'clock the next morning making singing on the windmill. He said he flew up there. I had to fly out and get him down.
Speaker 1:He's about half crazy was the schedule.
Speaker 6:One controlled substance very next day marijuana is considered by the dea to be without it.
Speaker 1:Boy, it's good to hear that song again, I gotta say uh, be without a currently accepted medical use and has a high potential for abuse. Heroin, lsd also schedule one drugs, which is ridiculous I'm sorry to have pot in the same uh, you know classification as heroin and cocaine. So the Department of Health and Human Services recommended back in 2023 that marijuana be reclassified as a Schedule III drug Ketamine, some anabolic steroids or Schedule III substances which have a moderate quote moderate to low potential for physical and psychological dependence. But here's the bottom line Even if marijuana is rescheduled, it would still be a controlled substance that is subject to federal rules and regulations and, more importantly, rescheduling does not decriminalize marijuana or make it legal for recreational use on the federal level. Not to say they're really looking to bust you for, but to me I just find that ridiculous and I think that, again, I think it should be legalized. As I told you earlier, we had a doctor call my show when we were asking you about this yesterday, when I was filling in for Sam Shane, and the doctor, dr Bruce, said yep, I have not found any adverse effects, to be honest over the years, only adverse effect that I found is perhaps a lack of motivation, which brings me I didn't pull it off the record shelf, but what the heck?
Speaker 1:Here on Pat's Peeps 315. Roll another blunt. Thank you for listening to my podcast. Please listen to my radio show, the Pat Walsh Show, kfbk News Radio 7 to 10 pm. Have a beautiful Wednesday. See you on the radio.
Speaker 3:I was gonna clean my room until I got high. I was gonna get up and find the radio. I was gonna clean my room until I got high. I was gonna get up and find the broom. But then I got high. My room is still messed up, and I know why. Why, man? Because I got high. Because I got high. Because I got high. I was gonna go to class before I got high. Come on, y'all Check it out. I could have cheated and I could have passed, but I got high. I'm taking the next semester and I know why. Because I got high, because I got high, because I got high.
